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Join us at snippy to get the discussion 20 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: rolling the story we've all been following over the past 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: few weeks, and honestly, I'm going to report on it 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: because it's a big story, but I have to tell 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: you it's kind of disappointing for this country that we 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: even have to go through something like this. And you 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: know what I'm about to say. Following a very explosive 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: and at times highly emotional day of testimony before the 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 1: Senate Judiciary Committee, all eyes turned to several key swing 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: vote senators now who remain outwardly undecided on the Supreme 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:43,639 Speaker 1: Court nominetee Brett Kavanaugh's fate. As of late today, ahead 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: of tomorrow's planned Judiciary Committee vote on whether to recommend 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh's confirmation to the full Senate, which they could vote 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: this weekend, we shall see what happens there now. Earlier today, 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: a visibly angry and emotional Brett Kavanaugh denied on her 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: oath that he had assaulted Christine Ford, telling senators his 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: name has been totally and permanently destroyed by these false 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: allegations and that his accusers testified that she's sure he 37 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: forced her and forced himself on her some thirty six 38 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: years ago, and that's how she stands. He was seventeen, 39 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: she was fifteen. We begin first with Howard Bloom for 40 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: his reaction from today's testimony. Howard, go ahead, Well, the 41 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: unspoken presence in the Senate Judiciary Committee chamber today was 42 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: not Dr Christine and Blaze Ford, and it was not 43 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: Brett Kavanaugh. It was something we talked about last night. Alcohol. 44 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: You are two different people, George, the person you think 45 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: you are and the person you actually are. The person 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: in you that you do not know takes you over 47 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: when you drink, and Brett Kavanaugh was a drinker when 48 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: he was young. One of Kavanaugh's five sexual abuse accusers 49 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: as a fellow y Else student who says that during 50 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: a drinking game in their dorm, Kavanaugh exposed himself to her, 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: tried to get her to touch him, and more Kavanaugh 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: was drunk. The Yale student who made this claim is 53 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: named Debbie Ramirez. One of Ramiro's roommates, f Liz Swisher, 54 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: says she was shocked by the way that Kavanaugh portrayed 55 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: himself as quote a choir boy in a long interview 56 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: with Martha McCallum that aired three days ago on Fox TV. 57 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: Swisher was particularly disturbed by Kavanaugh's claim that he never 58 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: blacked out or had lapses of memory after drinking to excess. 59 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: On the contrary, Swisher says that Kavanaugh was a quote 60 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: sloppy drunk. I know, she adds because I drank with him. 61 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: I watched him drink more than a lot of people. 62 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: He'd end up slurring his words stumbling, concluded Swisher, It's 63 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: not credible for him to say that he has no 64 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: memory lapses in the nights that he drank to excess. 65 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: A Swisher is not a guttersnake. She graduated kum lauder 66 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: from Meal and as a professor and division director at 67 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: the University Washington School of Medicine's Division of Medical Genetics 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: UM Another she has a credible witness. Another ramor is 69 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: his roommates at Yale. Lynn Brooks is a Republican. I repeat, 70 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: a Republican. Brooks kept her mouth shut about Kavanaugh until 71 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: she saw that Fox TV interview in which Kavanaugh made 72 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: himself out to be a saint. Then she couldn't keep 73 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: quiet anymore. She explained that Kavanaugh quote said he did 74 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 1: not drink to excess, and he said he never drank 75 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: to the point of blacking out, but says Brooks, quote, 76 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: you can't lie your way into the Supreme Court. And 77 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: with that statement out, he's gone too far. Now what 78 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: motivated Brooks to speak civic virtue? She says, quote, it's 79 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: about the integrity of the Supreme Court. Brooks is also 80 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: a credible when she graduated from Yale with a bachelor's 81 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: degree in a tough subject, chemistry. Then she went from 82 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: Yale to Wharton, held high level executive positions in a 83 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: string of pharmaceutical companies, and is now CEO of a 84 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: healthcare communications firm. Note the word that Brooks uses lie 85 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: as in you can't lie your way onto the Supreme Court. 86 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: There's Brett Kavanaugh, who is a church going family man. Lie. 87 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh's testimony in front of the Judicial Committee today was explosive. 88 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: He said he was the victim of a vast conspiracy 89 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: and emotionally started crying. He started crying, and when he 90 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: said the words I'm about to tell you, his face 91 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: was puffed up and read it was like a six 92 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: year olds outrage anger. And he said, this whole week 93 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: effort has been a calculated and orchestrated political hit. Kavanaugh 94 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: claimed that it's quote fueled with apparent pen of b 95 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: anger about President Trump and the two thousand and sixteen election, 96 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: fear that has been unfairly stoked about my judicial record, 97 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: revenge on behalf of the Clintons, and millions of dollars 98 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: and money from outside left wing opposition groups. That's the 99 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: end of his quote. Dr Christine Blazie Ford that when 100 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: she was fifteen, you know this in Kavanaugh was seventeen. 101 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Kavanaughha friend shoved her into a bedroom. Kavanaugh pushed her 102 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: onto the bed, got on top of her, ground his 103 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: hips against, tried to remove her clothes, covered her mouth 104 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: when she tried to scream, and laughed, this is the 105 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: new part today. And he laughed and his friend did 106 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: NonStop about the fund the two of them were having 107 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: at her expense. Kavanaugh called this claim a quote grotesque 108 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: and coordinated character assassination. Both boys, says Dr Ford were drunk. 109 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: They'd apparently started drinking early in the afternoon. And again, 110 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: when you're drunk, are you that you do not know 111 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: comes out and takes over. Then thanks to the alcohol, 112 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: you forget what you did. But his Liz Swisher, right, 113 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: this Brett Kavanaugh lie about these things. The odds are 114 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: very good that he lied Today in front of the 115 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: Senate Judiciary Committee, Kavanaugh said that he did not know 116 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: Christina Blazey Ford when they were teenagers, and he added 117 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: that he was never at a party the match doctor 118 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: Ford's description. Then he said with vehemence that the two 119 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: male friends who Ford says, we're at this party with 120 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: the two of them know me well. Now. If if 121 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: Christina Ford did not know Brack Kavanaugh when the two 122 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: were teenagers in the upper class country club set of Maryland, 123 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: if they did not travel, as Kavanaugh claims, in the 124 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: same social circle, how did Ford manage to name two 125 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: of Kavanaugh's best friends now. It's questions like this that 126 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: impelled Democrats on the Judiciary Committee to demand two things, 127 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: an FBI background check on the new accusations and a 128 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: hearing in which alleged witnesses to the event and character 129 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: witnesses like Swisher Brooks and the two male friends who 130 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh says know me well could be questioned in. But 131 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: apparently they vote tomorrow. So yes or no? Does the 132 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: Senate Judiciary Committee move the nomination onto the full Senate? 133 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: Yes or no. It's going to move the nomination as 134 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: long as they can hold the four swing votes, and 135 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: those four swing votes were confused today because, as you said, 136 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: Christina Ford Um came across very very credibly, and so 137 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: did Judge Kavanaugh. All right, my friend, Now we check 138 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 1: in with Dr John heard As online columnist dot Com 139 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: with his perspective. John. Yeah, Well, George, I mean, obviously 140 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to take exception to what Howard has send here. 141 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: That's why I've got you two on to balance this out. Well, 142 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: it's some big surprise there, right, I mean, this is 143 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: the deal, George. She came there, she presented every Democrat 144 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: had already made up their minds, you know, before the 145 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: sharing started, that she believed they believe just like Howard 146 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: everything a teenage girl remembers thirty six years ago as 147 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: a fifteen year old who may have been under influence 148 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: of alcohol herself at the time. So you're asking, you're 149 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: basically asking people, this is the bottom line, who do 150 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: you believe this kind of woman who is presenting herself 151 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: with this shaky voice, extremely emotional, obviously traumatized by something 152 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: over her lifetime, something happened to her, something obviously it 153 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: that something, admitting to Rachel Mitchell that she suffers from claustrophobia, 154 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: she suffers from anxiety, she suffers from post traumatic stress, 155 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: this over disorder, and she's asking people to believe that 156 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: there's one incident that she went through as a teenager 157 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: where somebody flopped on top of her. Possibly if this 158 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: is her description, the one that Howard gave, traumatized her 159 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: so much that as an adult, a professional psychologist that's 160 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: been through umpteen years of therapy and whatever, is still 161 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: this trauma victim who presents herself as somebody in the 162 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: in the hearing like she's the walking wounded. Now, how 163 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: can anybody possibly trust that kind of presentation against the 164 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: track record of a highly decorated Yale Law graduate count 165 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: for to an American President, and a twelve year UH 166 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: Circuit Court judge with the highest ratings from the American 167 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: Bar Association. So I know Howard likes to focus on 168 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: different things, and especially the alcohol issue. But the fact 169 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: is that her presentation today, and I said this, I 170 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: said that if she doesn't present herself as credible, then 171 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: this is going to tilt back in the direction of Kavanaugh, 172 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: which I think it has. Well, we will find out soon. John. 173 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, if for some reason Kavanaugh 174 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: did this. If he did this, don't you think he 175 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: would have scored points if he had said over the 176 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: course of this, yes, I think I might have done 177 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: something stupid. I was drunk, I was seventeen, But I 178 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: will tell you that seventeen year old boy is not 179 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: who I am tonight or today. Do you think that 180 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: people would have accepted that? No, of course you don't 181 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: think that would have destroyed him politically, he would be toast. 182 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: He had to deny everything, um, you know, and ultimately, 183 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: whether he did it, whether he didn't do it. I 184 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: mean it is now his reputation against her shaky testimony. 185 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: Dects think it was very credible, and I don't know 186 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: how you're going to prove this. Prove that's the problem. John. Thanks. 187 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: We're going to check in. The Senate Judiciary Committee is 188 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: supposed to vote tomorrow to see if they're going to 189 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: move the nomination onto the full Senate. But I gotta 190 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: tell you, you you know, everybody loses in this situation. Everybody. 191 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: The poor woman who was assaulted by someone Kavanaugh, whose 192 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: name has been destroyed. Can you imagine his kids going 193 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: to school every day now with this over their heads. 194 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: Everybody's destroyed. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every 195 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: weeknight at one a m. Eastern, and go to Coast 196 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: to Coast am dot com for more