Speaker 1: Everyone, and welcome to another episode of Nerro Deficent. I'm
Speaker 1: your host if you want to wait, it's hitting across
Speaker 1: from me, as always is Danny Fernandez. I'm back. We're
Speaker 1: both back. But also I'm back. I've been gone for
Speaker 1: like three weeks. Since you've been gone. Um, since you've
Speaker 1: been gone, I can breathe for the first time, I
Speaker 1: can I breathe. Yeah, you're the only one in l
Speaker 1: A that can breathe right now. Like everybody is sick,
Speaker 1: you're the only one. Well that's because you know, while
Speaker 1: everyone was out of town getting sick, since I was,
Speaker 1: since I'm in l A Native, I was breathing in
Speaker 1: all these beach waves. No, that's not the No, that's
Speaker 1: not what's he that's sucking in that good. I honestly
Speaker 1: think I got sick because our wildfires. When all the
Speaker 1: smoke settles. Um, then when the rains came, I think
Speaker 1: it like it had all still been there. So um. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I know I'm correct because Emma five is shaking her
Speaker 1: well because I was here. I did not go out
Speaker 1: of town over Christmas. But I think that, Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: there's a level of that, and there's also a level
Speaker 1: of all of these people who did get sick coming
Speaker 1: back came back and that that was since you've been gone. Um.
Speaker 1: That is our friend Emma five joining us. You will
Speaker 1: recognize her that you are in our RPG episode. I was, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's pop culture host Emma five. We also have joining us,
Speaker 1: We have two other guests. They were really bringing it in,
Speaker 1: bringing in that new year, big big glow up. We
Speaker 1: have filmmaker Katrina Dennis. This is your first time on,
Speaker 1: my first time on, and also my first time being
Speaker 1: introduced as a filmmaker, so that's really yes, welcome to
Speaker 1: the party. Um. And then we also have producer and
Speaker 1: host of e T online dot com. It's Ash Crossing. Hey,
Speaker 1: also a first timer hopefully not the last, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I was Ash, I got to be on your show.
Speaker 1: We talked about how Jafar is a jatty. He's a
Speaker 1: jatty yeah, and we talked about the genie, which I
Speaker 1: ended up thinking that movie slept really hard. There you go,
Speaker 1: what's a jatty hot? I wish I did an interview
Speaker 1: with me him soon he got really mad when I
Speaker 1: said that he was like he was he was like
Speaker 1: a Laddin's hot. I was like, dude, a, Laddin has
Speaker 1: always been hot, Mina. Do you think he's threatened by
Speaker 1: sexy Jafar? Probably, Well, he has to be sorry to
Speaker 1: mean to cut you off, go for it. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, he has to be um kid friendly,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he comes across as
Speaker 1: like wholesome and too far as not. He's the villain
Speaker 1: that you just want to punish you totally. Villain makes
Speaker 1: a good Disney villain. That's why they have like a
Speaker 1: whole merchandise nine. Now everybody loves this sexy. It is
Speaker 1: just raw sexual energy. And people even thought Scar was sexy,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole Lion Law Live the King and
Speaker 1: he's all right, dude, calm down, you're just killing your brother. Well,
Speaker 1: and then we found out that he had a family.
Speaker 1: He was getting it on and his son was hot.
Speaker 1: Apparently all the villains are getting it on. What I
Speaker 1: know this is this is exciting. You know, instead of
Speaker 1: just tackling one huge property on one episode, we're like
Speaker 1: spread and love and I think we're doing something fun,
Speaker 1: you know, instead of doing your typical deep dive of
Speaker 1: like a property that has existed for years that people
Speaker 1: have have done many a deep dives on many of things.
Speaker 1: We're going to take out parts that are interesting and
Speaker 1: explore them. So today we're talking about Star Wars, but
Speaker 1: we're not talking about a specific movie, We're not talking
Speaker 1: about a specific episode. We're talking about the Force, which
Speaker 1: I think first first thing we want to talk about,
Speaker 1: especially if you see all these like Star Wars nerds
Speaker 1: talking about mitachlore Glorians online, You're like, what are the
Speaker 1: what what? What what are they saying? I mean, is
Speaker 1: that canon? Yes, yeah, I mean it's in the prequels.
Speaker 1: Every time I see Darth Vader, like when I go
Speaker 1: back and watch the original trilogy, every time I see him,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's Hayden Christensen under there, that's him. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: We are talking about the Force, and we wanted to
Speaker 1: give a brief disclaimer that all of the information in
Speaker 1: today's episode come This is from Joel Monique are amazing
Speaker 1: researcher who wants to make sure that she's that we
Speaker 1: cover ourselves. Everything uh in today's episode comes from the
Speaker 1: Legends leg of Star Wars. When Disney purchased Lucasfilm, many
Speaker 1: of the novels, comic books, cartoons, and video game storylines
Speaker 1: transitioned out of cannon and into legends. At any time,
Speaker 1: the good folks at Disney can brings something out of
Speaker 1: legends and into the current canon. This creates some awesome
Speaker 1: headcanon and sometimes confused fan base, but it also makes
Speaker 1: for an incredibly rich history to dig through as fans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the best, the best and simple description is,
Speaker 1: you know, you have your movies, but through like I said,
Speaker 1: this is how many years old you know, so you
Speaker 1: had novels, you had, you know, many a games, You've
Speaker 1: had all these different things that came out, and instead
Speaker 1: of just being like none of it means anything, I
Speaker 1: think the smarter move was just that they they describe
Speaker 1: it as legends. There their myths, and you know, myths
Speaker 1: that can be real or not depending on who is
Speaker 1: writing the movie from a certain point of view. I
Speaker 1: did want to say this will contain spoilers from Rise
Speaker 1: of Skywalker. If you haven't seen it yet, I don't
Speaker 1: you probably do not care about this episode, to be honest,
Speaker 1: because anyone that cares about Star Wars stuff has probably
Speaker 1: seen it by now. Yeah. Oh that's this is going
Speaker 1: to be a small um and I'm gonna make it
Speaker 1: super quick because we have so much to go through.
Speaker 1: But it was the discussion and I just everyone trying
Speaker 1: as Kurt of response that you can. But the last
Speaker 1: I remember clearly when The Force Awakens came out, because
Speaker 1: The Force Awakens came out while I was working on
Speaker 1: at midnight, and every comedian, because they're so original, wanted
Speaker 1: to come on the show uh and spoil uh and
Speaker 1: spoil that uh han dies every every comedian, every and
Speaker 1: so the first time someone did it, we bleeped it out,
Speaker 1: like straight up bleeped it out. And then eventually someone
Speaker 1: tried because because we would also be like no, but
Speaker 1: like of course, people who were like you know, regulars
Speaker 1: on the show had a little more freedom, will just
Speaker 1: sneak it in there, and we bleeped it. And then
Speaker 1: eventually I think it was like three weeks or or
Speaker 1: so passed and Chris just let it live on the
Speaker 1: air and he had so much hate online. And it
Speaker 1: is interesting because then we had a big discussion in
Speaker 1: the room of like, when is the the spoiler cut off?
Speaker 1: And I and I was, I was, I'm more unfair
Speaker 1: with it because I treat and I hold myself to
Speaker 1: the same standards. I don't get mad. If I want
Speaker 1: to see something, then I stay off of social media
Speaker 1: for the week. But I say after three weeks it's
Speaker 1: fair game. And some people say after it's run in
Speaker 1: the theaters, which I think is the safest. But I
Speaker 1: think after three weeks, because if you don't within three
Speaker 1: weeks want to see it and look, I get it.
Speaker 1: People are like, oh man, um, some people can't afford
Speaker 1: to see it. And usually the person who says that
Speaker 1: excuse is not that person like usually it's the it's
Speaker 1: someone who's trying to start an argument like I've never
Speaker 1: once been like because I remember this happened. Uh someone
Speaker 1: said that. Chris was like, Okay, I'll buy your movie
Speaker 1: ticket right now, and they're like, well I saw it already,
Speaker 1: and he was like what then, why are you making
Speaker 1: that argument? And my general rule is like, thankfully with
Speaker 1: a lot of Star Wars films releasing around the holidays,
Speaker 1: I'm totally for that. Um. My general rule is to
Speaker 1: wait until after the holidays because that's when families have
Speaker 1: gotten together, and Star Wars first and foremost is a
Speaker 1: family franchise. You so see it with your with your parents,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, So that once people are rolling back
Speaker 1: in from the holidays. I'm like, all right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about this. Yeah, what about you? Ash Well. This
Speaker 1: made me really much appreciate what the Russo brothers did
Speaker 1: that one time when they were like, hey, guys, come Monday,
Speaker 1: we're talking about spoilers. You guys can put it on Twitter,
Speaker 1: like until then, just shut your mouths, and like pretty
Speaker 1: much everyone did it. Yeah. I kind of wish we
Speaker 1: just had this like beacon of light every time that
Speaker 1: was like, hey guys, on Febru we're talking like Star
Speaker 1: Wars spoilers. I think it's one of those things, like
Speaker 1: that escape room effect where you just need the one
Speaker 1: person to make a rule and everyone will just obey.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the Mandalorian right, Like people still haven't
Speaker 1: seen it like in the country, so it's like when
Speaker 1: when are we talking about the People started blasting super
Speaker 1: interesting back and forth with Matt Martin from the story
Speaker 1: group at Lucasfilm, where he was like he post something.
Speaker 1: He's like, so is it okay to post? I mean
Speaker 1: he works for Lucasfilm and I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I should post this thing because I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be respectful of the fact, the people in the
Speaker 1: UK haven't seen it, so even when I would tweet
Speaker 1: about baby, I would always be bank tweets. Uh. But
Speaker 1: this was like three weeks after the first episode of
Speaker 1: The Mandalorian had aired, So yeah, it's still it is
Speaker 1: like this weird gray territory. Mandalorians different because it's like
Speaker 1: you can watch it in your living room. So but
Speaker 1: to me, it's like people who didn't go to work
Speaker 1: would watch it in the morning, and that I would.
Speaker 1: I just didn't have time. I mean, if I wasn't
Speaker 1: writing on this ship, like I would probably be there too,
Speaker 1: but then they would start tweeting. But also like if
Speaker 1: he said I would just stay off of it. Mine
Speaker 1: for movies is about two weeks. I'm like, if it
Speaker 1: meant anything to you, you would have snuck in there.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You would have lied. You would have
Speaker 1: liked gotten a boughten a ticket to go see something
Speaker 1: smaller and then snuck in. I don't know. You would
Speaker 1: have trench coat, like three kids in a trench coat.
Speaker 1: You would have figured it out. And anything Star Wars,
Speaker 1: Marvel like those huge things. I think I give you
Speaker 1: two weeks and then if not, like just don't be
Speaker 1: on social media. We have muted words now, mut the
Speaker 1: crap out of stuff all the time and it works. Um.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Force, I kind of wanted to go
Speaker 1: around and just see how each person would describe it. Serious,
Speaker 1: can be can be silly. I'll go first, Um, the Force.
Speaker 1: How do I think it's like the Holy Spirit? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, It's like I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: what else and I can always go from like DBZ lore. Um,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, like this spirit. I don't want to use force.
Speaker 1: I need a look energy. It's an energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we use in in the anime world. UM.
Speaker 1: I guess ash, how would you describe it? Um? I
Speaker 1: would describe it as George Lucas probably sitting around and
Speaker 1: the remote was across the room or whatever, and he
Speaker 1: was like, I wish I could just to me like Matilda.
Speaker 1: And then he was like I'm going to do a
Speaker 1: movie about this, And then I think that you are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want to levitate stuff for me, and then
Speaker 1: and then it just got incredibly complex after that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think as a nerd, I would describe it as
Speaker 1: space magic, and as a screenwriter, I would describe it
Speaker 1: as the the literal, uh, the literal metaphor for light
Speaker 1: and darkness, and just expectedly how it especially how it enters,
Speaker 1: how the Jedi interact with the Sith, and how it
Speaker 1: is they are just straight up just plot light and
Speaker 1: Seth is plot dark. I've always thought of it, and
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was said in one of the
Speaker 1: Star Wars films or cartoons or whatever as basically the
Speaker 1: energy that flows between all living things. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's not it's it's not actually that sort of fantastical
Speaker 1: of a concept when you think of the idea of that,
Speaker 1: Like there is that like energy is constantly renewable, Like
Speaker 1: when something dies, it's not dead, it's just having its
Speaker 1: energy repurposed. And so that's very much what I think.
Speaker 1: That the Forces and the Jedi are just the people
Speaker 1: that are able to tap into and utilize this thing
Speaker 1: that's there. Yeah, I would say that it is no
Speaker 1: less or more complicated than exactly what Obi Wan said
Speaker 1: uh in a New Hope. It's an energy that flows
Speaker 1: through all of us. It binds us together, um. And
Speaker 1: what that means is that it drives our paths in
Speaker 1: different in the movies or not ours I'm sure we've
Speaker 1: all come together because we're just very lucky. Um. But
Speaker 1: it weaves passed together that we need to be woven together. UM.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily a power level like some treat people
Speaker 1: seem to treat it as. UM. It's it's a thing
Speaker 1: that exists that like people who everyone in a way
Speaker 1: has access to it. But those who know about it
Speaker 1: and accept its existence are the people who can do
Speaker 1: force Monks stuff. I love it. I'm so into witchcraft
Speaker 1: and I just realized that their brew has there are
Speaker 1: no there are actual force brew Has, and I would
Speaker 1: love to talk about them today to answer what is
Speaker 1: the force? Based on what our research? Uh. It's referred
Speaker 1: to as the way in ancient times, and the force
Speaker 1: can be broken down in the four distinct parts, the
Speaker 1: living force, unifying force, the cosmic force, and the physical force.
Speaker 1: The light side and the dark side of force deal
Speaker 1: in moral ethics, and users of the light side are
Speaker 1: considered compassionate, healing, and merciful, while the dark side deals
Speaker 1: and absolutes fear, anger, and revenge. Living force deals with
Speaker 1: the force within living beings. The unify The unifying force
Speaker 1: deals with space and time. The cosmic force deals with
Speaker 1: in life and after day, and the physical force deals
Speaker 1: with anything in the physical realm. The force resides and
Speaker 1: all living things, but can only be controlled by force
Speaker 1: sensitive creatures. The forces measured and being uh and being
Speaker 1: by midic Midicalorean counts. So there it is. Is that word. Actually,
Speaker 1: if you've seen Star Wars, which I know you have,
Speaker 1: everyone pronounces everything eighteen different ways. So Midaclorean's in my
Speaker 1: book is just as correct. Um, I have a question
Speaker 1: that's done, But I don't you know. I'm in a
Speaker 1: safe place and have not studied these as much as
Speaker 1: you have. So the Sith, like, when I think of that,
Speaker 1: are some of the people that are considered bad using
Speaker 1: the good elements of the force. There's there have been
Speaker 1: Sith who have started on the path toward not necessarily
Speaker 1: the lights, but the balance of the force. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: will bring up that space through how assage Ventress as
Speaker 1: one of those characters who started on an arc like that,
Speaker 1: and she was still using dark side magic, but she
Speaker 1: was beginning to open up to light side theories, and
Speaker 1: so her path changed because of that. So sith Sith
Speaker 1: are like are uh servants of the dark Side. They're
Speaker 1: they're they're under the oppression of the dark side willingly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the dark side has much more attractive qualities. Yeah,
Speaker 1: except it makes you real ugly. It really ruins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't have a good skincare routine anyway, because
Speaker 1: like a light side is all like you. You don't
Speaker 1: you know, sleep with anyone. You're just like very merciful,
Speaker 1: You're very nice. You don't like and like, yeah, the
Speaker 1: dark side you can just like you know, you can
Speaker 1: do stuff up. Yeah, yeah, do whatever you want, do
Speaker 1: whatever you want. You can be mad at people and
Speaker 1: use the force about like, yeah, I would much rather
Speaker 1: be a Sith. Sorry. I think that's some thing that
Speaker 1: I was aware of as a little kid when I
Speaker 1: was first watching Star Wars and was introduced to this
Speaker 1: concept of the light side in the dark side of
Speaker 1: the Force, and I always gravitated more towards the Han
Speaker 1: solos and being that sort of character with Star Wars
Speaker 1: because I was so aware of the fact that since
Speaker 1: I was such an emotional child, like I've I was
Speaker 1: done for if I were force sensitive, I would have
Speaker 1: been like sifth day one, Yeah, I've been like, yeah, Palpy,
Speaker 1: I'll go with you. Let's do it, But I always
Speaker 1: thought that was funny when people talk about Kylo Wren
Speaker 1: like throwing tantrums, I'm like, what would you do if
Speaker 1: you add all that power? Like, it's so funny. It's
Speaker 1: like the whatever the is it the Yale prison experiment
Speaker 1: or something. Humans actually turn really quickly on each other
Speaker 1: when given absolute power. Uh so, how did we become
Speaker 1: conscious of the force? But we have celestials. The force
Speaker 1: has been passed down from one powerful organization to the
Speaker 1: next throughout time. It began with celestials, I hope. I'm
Speaker 1: saying at one right known as the Architects, and they
Speaker 1: were an ancient civilization who were present long before the
Speaker 1: dawn of the galactic community, believed to be responsible for
Speaker 1: a number of large artifacts, an anomalous planetary formations, and
Speaker 1: species placements throughout the galaxy. What was known about the
Speaker 1: Celestials came from zeno archaeology. This is a lot um.
Speaker 1: The Jedi and the sith alike theorized that the balance
Speaker 1: between the light and dark sides of the force were
Speaker 1: actually under the guidance of the Celestials. When did this
Speaker 1: come into play? Did they talk about this and other
Speaker 1: the Celestials? Yeah, I mean in legends, yes, yeah, the
Speaker 1: there and somebody can fix my brain on this if
Speaker 1: that has come into play in any deep I was
Speaker 1: trying to think that. I was trying to think too
Speaker 1: if they had addressed that in New Cannon at all,
Speaker 1: and I'm just coming up with like vacant statues. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the furthest fact that we have right now
Speaker 1: established in New Annon is the father, the daughter and
Speaker 1: yes exactly, and those are like the closest to the
Speaker 1: steels that we have right now. Okay, yeah, but they
Speaker 1: were not necessarily like the founding. Yeah, they just were
Speaker 1: ancient manifestations of the Force, so mentioned in the comic
Speaker 1: Lando Double or nothing too. Um. But it's a very
Speaker 1: very small country. Quick Cannon check up though. So are
Speaker 1: the current comics considered cannon? Yes? Yeah, everything that was
Speaker 1: published after that buy is considered cannon, along with the
Speaker 1: dark Horse Darth Maul, son of Dathamir run Um. That
Speaker 1: was just the one that they were like, now, we
Speaker 1: don't need to change that one at all. Okay, So
Speaker 1: what exactly does the Force do or can do? Well?
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of things. One of the more
Speaker 1: recent things that has been explored within Star Wars Cannon
Speaker 1: is obviously force healing. That's something that we saw both
Speaker 1: in Rise of Skywalker and also in The Mandalorian, which
Speaker 1: was really interesting because you know, in I think it
Speaker 1: was episode two of The Mandalorian, we see Baby Yoda
Speaker 1: like et hand trying to reach out the Mandalorian when
Speaker 1: he's injured himself, and in my mind, I went, oh,
Speaker 1: he's trying to heal him. Of course, because to me
Speaker 1: it made sense that the force is something that could heal,
Speaker 1: even though we hadn't necessarily super addressed that until then. Um.
Speaker 1: And then obviously we saw it in Rise of Skywalker
Speaker 1: in the way that it played out, because I saw
Speaker 1: Rise of Skywalker at a screening on Tuesday before it
Speaker 1: came out. Uh So obviously in that Ray heals the
Speaker 1: sort of snake monster, and then you know, sort of
Speaker 1: equal exchange because she explains that the way she's doing
Speaker 1: it is by basically transferring some of her life energy.
Speaker 1: Because again this goes back to my whole theory about
Speaker 1: the Force that it's just it's the energy that flows
Speaker 1: between everything, and so you sort of have this equal
Speaker 1: exchange at the end when Ben Solo puts all of
Speaker 1: his life energy into her dead body so that she's
Speaker 1: able to come back to life and then oops, he dies.
Speaker 1: But it played out really well because then in the
Speaker 1: episode of The Mandalorian the air that week we did
Speaker 1: actually see baby out a force hill. Somebody such as
Speaker 1: why he passes out? I know, So is he the
Speaker 1: only one that had that we've seen that has done
Speaker 1: that or have in the history of like what we've
Speaker 1: seen in media, have any of the other passed out
Speaker 1: or gotten tired? In the Sorry to jump in more
Speaker 1: to stuff, the daughter Ashla, who is one of those
Speaker 1: like very uh forced bound beings um a Soca basically
Speaker 1: dies Asoka Anakin Skywalker's Paddawan dies in this in this ark,
Speaker 1: and the daughter gives her life, her life energy, her
Speaker 1: life force to Asoka so she can live, and the
Speaker 1: daughter passes on and becomes like a being of the
Speaker 1: force that is actually a very cute little owl. And
Speaker 1: then I know, I was going to say another thing
Speaker 1: that I know is forced ghosts. Oh yes, yeah, as
Speaker 1: you want to explain what those are because only some
Speaker 1: people can do that. Yeah, only like the light side
Speaker 1: can do that, because if you are on the dark side,
Speaker 1: like make a deal like live long longer exactly, kind
Speaker 1: of just keep it. It's kind of like a vampire thing,
Speaker 1: where like if you become a vampire, you're gonna live
Speaker 1: forever in theory, unless you're killed, um becoming an angel.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but then if you die, that's it done.
Speaker 1: So so was Han what was he? I took that
Speaker 1: as lay A projected, and I feel like behind the
Speaker 1: scenes that was maybe supposed to be a scene between
Speaker 1: her and then, but with Carrie's passing, I feel like
Speaker 1: they were like, okay, let's do well to come out
Speaker 1: of his house for that, but not his hair. No, not.
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm just going to show up and
Speaker 1: do this. They took the airing out, and it was
Speaker 1: kind of weird to me that, like he had no
Speaker 1: problem like stabbing his dad and then was like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: you're right dad. Well, I'm so glad that I have
Speaker 1: y'all to give me the behind the scenes going back
Speaker 1: to force ghosts real quick. So the whole theory behind that,
Speaker 1: since you did really want to know, um, the Lightsiders
Speaker 1: can do that, but it's knowledge that has to be
Speaker 1: strongly passed on. Yoda didn't know how to do it,
Speaker 1: but Quigan did. Because Quigan didn't really believe entirely in
Speaker 1: the Light Tide have the balance, and he just smoked
Speaker 1: a lot of weed. I like to say that here
Speaker 1: and he uh, he just learned how to be a
Speaker 1: Force ghost, and so before Yoda passed he taught him,
Speaker 1: and Yoda taught Obi one and um and sometimes the
Speaker 1: Force will will someone into projection, which is my theory
Speaker 1: behind why Anakin is there at the end of Return
Speaker 1: of the Jedi is that the Force decided he needed
Speaker 1: to be there, and so that's that's another Force ghost
Speaker 1: theory was dead. I'm still running over there and suddenly
Speaker 1: now I'm hating Christians. I love that he's involved. Well,
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Speaker 1: So we were still talking about what the force does.
Speaker 1: So it looks here hell turn into a ghost, shoot lightning,
Speaker 1: force lining, bond, pull bush speed connect Cloak. What's cloak
Speaker 1: like just like you know, hide themselves like like Harry Potter.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure if it means it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean hiding their forced sign. Yeah it means. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's more like okay in Dragon Ball Z when you
Speaker 1: learn to like hide your power. Yeah, okay, see into
Speaker 1: the future and scream across the universe for help. Um.
Speaker 1: But they also can they can also like wave wave
Speaker 1: their hand and people don't want trick. Yeah. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gotten out of hand lately. I gotta say, you think
Speaker 1: it's like an opie, like it's too powerful. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it just started out with like lifting rocks and now
Speaker 1: it's like you can hand each other stuff, you can
Speaker 1: skype each other, you can make out a little bit,
Speaker 1: like you can do whatever. It's just like it's like
Speaker 1: X men, just like pick a trade like yep with
Speaker 1: Kylo and U Ray. You can like be in that
Speaker 1: person's they like they dated through. Yeah, they literally dated
Speaker 1: Like I love it. It was like folks face to
Speaker 1: face like water doo done. Wow. I mean that is invasive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going into each other's memories. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? I'll see you across that room,
Speaker 1: but different planets. The original dating app just just side now,
Speaker 1: please don't approach people like that. People don't show up
Speaker 1: in my room, but dreams. You're in a dream and
Speaker 1: you look in the corner and your boys like you see,
Speaker 1: you see my room. So it's not even your room,
Speaker 1: so you know that it's magic. In dB Z UM,
Speaker 1: it's teleport instant transmission instant transmission UM. Okay, so let's
Speaker 1: talk about forced lightning. So force lightning previously seen only
Speaker 1: in Sith characters, but force lightning first appeared in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty three in Return of the Jedi. I mean it's
Speaker 1: basically like, bad guys can force lightning, and you're like cool,
Speaker 1: But then more recently they're like, oh wait no, a
Speaker 1: lot of people can, like k can do it too,
Speaker 1: And it's in all these colors. Really know why, They're like,
Speaker 1: they're like, yo, this is cool. We shouldn't just let
Speaker 1: the bad guys have it. Yeah, it looks like it
Speaker 1: occurred in at least four colors, blue, green, yellow, and red.
Speaker 1: Why I can't I could not tell you. I don't know,
Speaker 1: slowly making a collection. There's sabers, there's like crystals involved.
Speaker 1: The lightning is just like whatever your nail color is,
Speaker 1: I guess. And then the standard color was bluish purple,
Speaker 1: as demonstrated by Palpatine. Doku am I saying that right,
Speaker 1: Count Dooku snoke and ray, which we also saw. So
Speaker 1: I guess if you're a dark side forced us are
Speaker 1: related red to lightning. Um. Okay, So we were talking
Speaker 1: about healing, so given that one of the maintenance of
Speaker 1: I almost said Judaism, of Jediism is healing one. But
Speaker 1: I feel like some of that, Yeah, you have like
Speaker 1: a savior. Oh no, that's not Judaism. Um, I think
Speaker 1: I know. I met the first half of the Bible.
Speaker 1: I met the first half of the Bible, not the
Speaker 1: second half. Dame. What's weird about for ceiling is they
Speaker 1: talk about how when you force heel someone you like
Speaker 1: insert some of your like. So is some of raise
Speaker 1: living in this weird cave snake? Yeah, okay, yeah, it
Speaker 1: just is. She's like connected to it. She like that
Speaker 1: comes up and do like an aria and be in
Speaker 1: the cave snakes body. Well, I almost wonder if you
Speaker 1: could control them them if you Okay, so she healed Kylo,
Speaker 1: But I feel like if you have part of your
Speaker 1: part of you, your nests in them now, I feel
Speaker 1: like you would be able to kind of control like
Speaker 1: the snake, I feel she would and Kylo, they're one
Speaker 1: of another force ability that I totally forgot was actually
Speaker 1: creature control and not necessarily like troll but connection we
Speaker 1: sitizen canan with the wolves and the loft cats. Um,
Speaker 1: it's about connecting to that creature and like basically it's
Speaker 1: like approaching a stray cat and and convincing it to
Speaker 1: be your friend instead of attack you and give you raby. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's basically what the tower is. Given that one of
Speaker 1: the main tenance of Jedi Ism is healing, one would
Speaker 1: would one would believe force healing to be part of
Speaker 1: the Light Side, but it was the Dark Side who
Speaker 1: cracked it first, but not without consequences. The most benign
Speaker 1: to the user, at least of these side effects was
Speaker 1: the healing being temporary and requiring renewed applications or constant
Speaker 1: concentration to remain active, which meship or that that reminds
Speaker 1: me of like the Skexies in Dark Crystal and how
Speaker 1: like they consume the essence of Delfling and they become young,
Speaker 1: but like it only lasts for a little while and
Speaker 1: they have to keep doing it, or like in start Ust,
Speaker 1: how you have to like constant keep getting the hearts
Speaker 1: of stars. Yeah, well, that's what's so funny is that
Speaker 1: you know, we're in this like galaxy far far away
Speaker 1: with all this technology, and all the technologies seem to
Speaker 1: only be able to put you in droids and leave
Speaker 1: you in constant. Yeah. Well it's interesting because I think
Speaker 1: that's sort of you know, the dark side concept behind
Speaker 1: force healing has more to do with self preservation and
Speaker 1: less to do with selflessly giving healing to others. So
Speaker 1: like in the prequels when Anakin's freaking out about pad
Speaker 1: May potentially dying and uh, Palpatine kind of wins him
Speaker 1: over by telling him the tragedy of Darth Pleagus, the
Speaker 1: way he could stop people from dying via force heiling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a really big theory, especially now after the Rise
Speaker 1: of Skywalker and what we saw Ray Ray and Kyloh
Speaker 1: provide for each other that um, when Pod was dying
Speaker 1: in childbirth, Um Palpatine was siphoning her life energy and
Speaker 1: put and get into Vader so that he could live. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's it's like something that was running really lightly
Speaker 1: before that because of the prequels, but like after this,
Speaker 1: like it is ramped up on communities and like that
Speaker 1: that could prove like another point of like dark side
Speaker 1: healing is that you take someone's life energy and put
Speaker 1: in the idea yourself for someone else. That's interesting because
Speaker 1: I've never fully accepted like she's just lost the world
Speaker 1: to look like that's not That's not who signed up
Speaker 1: a pillar in. It's not someone who's going to die
Speaker 1: of sadness. Okay, that's kids, that's ak drama, conceit. People
Speaker 1: don't die of sadness. Just doesn't happen, not in Star Wars,
Speaker 1: not in life. I refuse to accept that. So Sith
Speaker 1: Lord Darth Scion, who's the Lord of Pain, I wonder
Speaker 1: if that was like self named Scion could focus on
Speaker 1: his own pain in agony, using it to fuel the
Speaker 1: dark Side and recover from grievous wounds almost instantly. Science
Speaker 1: capability with this technique appeared almost perfect, but over time
Speaker 1: his injuries accumulated to such a degree that he was
Speaker 1: in constant agony. So this, however, he welcomed as it
Speaker 1: fueled his power to accomplish this task. He channeled the
Speaker 1: force constantly to literally hold his shattered body together. That's
Speaker 1: really fascinating. That's like how Darth Maul stayed alive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was literally so angry he couldn't die. Like that
Speaker 1: was saying. I mean like he sat in a hole
Speaker 1: and built himself some spider legs and just like pulled
Speaker 1: trash together to leave. I'm too bitter. Um, okay, So
Speaker 1: force speed. Force speed allows users to increase their muscle
Speaker 1: speed and slow down their perception of the world. The
Speaker 1: increased speed of the force users enabled them to see
Speaker 1: the world and entities around them in slow motion, allowing
Speaker 1: them to dodge attacks easily and quickly attack with great raccuracy.
Speaker 1: I feel like this could have just been like, this
Speaker 1: is a passive ability all jeties, could you. We didn't
Speaker 1: have to add speed. It's like quicksilver. Yeah, exactly a
Speaker 1: little bit of that in the last Jedi when he's
Speaker 1: forced projecting to Kilo and he pets on those like
Speaker 1: matrix doctors. I mean, this is an ability that you
Speaker 1: can utilize and I do a lot in Jedi Fallen Order,
Speaker 1: by the way, yes, one of my faith it's it's
Speaker 1: that and like the Force Slow where it's like you wait, exactly,
Speaker 1: I do it all the time. The only way is
Speaker 1: able to be the Ninth system. Yeah yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: following order sidebar the whole Like um Guild of the
Speaker 1: Sith who just hunt Jedies was so cool in their design. Yea.
Speaker 1: Does anyone want to talk about when the four Scream happened? Oh? Sure, Well,
Speaker 1: so basically it's just like if you have the Force
Speaker 1: and you're in like turmoil or need help, you can
Speaker 1: basically just like if like a Force user, another Force
Speaker 1: user will hear you, will hear your scream. So it's
Speaker 1: like when Luke falls in Empire strikes back and he's
Speaker 1: like hanging on the end of his and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die and then he's like, that's kind of
Speaker 1: what it is. That sounds like a force whisper um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was more of a whisper I feel like a
Speaker 1: better example is when all Theron blew up and um
Speaker 1: Obi Wan was just like I heard a million screams
Speaker 1: or whatever that quote actually is. But yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: other one will be Yoda sensing the death of hundreds
Speaker 1: of Jedi are parallel to I just feel like something's up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: our parallel to that in Rise of Skywalkers when Ray
Speaker 1: dies and Finn stops and he knows that she's dead
Speaker 1: like that, and then also in the Last Jedi when
Speaker 1: Leah and Ray sense Luke then sensitive yes he is,
Speaker 1: and then there's forced bond which clear Lee, Kylo and
Speaker 1: Ray have UM for skyping for state. Yeah, who else
Speaker 1: would you? I mean obviously different levels of force bonds
Speaker 1: because we had that immediate or her first example an
Speaker 1: Empire with Luke and Leah where he connected with her.
Speaker 1: Again with Kylo and Ray, Finn and Ray having a
Speaker 1: connection to each other where they can sense each other.
Speaker 1: So it's definitely like something where if you're close to
Speaker 1: someone Asoka and Anakin had that. Anakin could feel when
Speaker 1: Padny was in trouble through the Force um and was
Speaker 1: not necessarily bonded to her. So it's those It's again,
Speaker 1: it's something because the Force connects people. Your strength with
Speaker 1: that bond, or your strength through your grandfather manipulating that
Speaker 1: bond so that you could force call a guy um.
Speaker 1: It's all dependent on that. You got to explain to us.
Speaker 1: These force Brews, the Night Sisters, the best ones ever.
Speaker 1: I love them, um so uh. During the Clone War
Speaker 1: is an all a very very long For a very
Speaker 1: long time before that, there were um different clans of
Speaker 1: basic Basically they were forced witches on dathomere Um. You
Speaker 1: see this in Clone Wars, you see it in Fallen
Speaker 1: Order with our beautiful lesbian baby marin Um and the
Speaker 1: beginnings of it at the beginning within Ewok's battle for
Speaker 1: end Orm and made so there there they are a
Speaker 1: coven of witches, are several covens of witches on this
Speaker 1: planet Um, and they can manipulate the Dark side of
Speaker 1: the Force without being coming slaves to the Dark side
Speaker 1: of the Force. They have like a weird connection with
Speaker 1: it where they generate this like green mist magic and
Speaker 1: they can use it to fight people. Um. Some of
Speaker 1: them can raise it from the dead, and they have
Speaker 1: this like really deep culture. And all of it went
Speaker 1: to shambles in the Clone Wars because Venturous left Dooku
Speaker 1: and Dogu got mad dog throw away Ventress and the
Speaker 1: Venturess lived, and he got mad about that and he
Speaker 1: sent General Grievous out and General Grievous and his droids
Speaker 1: killed every single Night Sister save for like three. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but no, the Night Sisters are an interesting
Speaker 1: case because, you know, as you were saying in Katrina,
Speaker 1: there they are using the dark side of the Force,
Speaker 1: but they're not necessarily like evil. They just are kind
Speaker 1: of them. It doesn't mean they do good stuff. They
Speaker 1: certainly act in their own self interest, but they're not
Speaker 1: like trying to conquer the galaxy and make everybody live
Speaker 1: life the way that they are. They're they're pretty happy
Speaker 1: just like living their soith, which life they like kind
Speaker 1: of keep to themselves. I don't think we've never done
Speaker 1: anything wrong really sort of Okay, they've done some wrong things,
Speaker 1: but but for the most part, they didn't deserve that. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's really interesting because they have
Speaker 1: like an entire culture and a religion that's built very
Speaker 1: differently and very much like different types of witches um
Speaker 1: and the way that they relate to like their beliefs
Speaker 1: and religions. So it's a different way from the Jedi
Speaker 1: the Sith to look at the Force. I know we
Speaker 1: were talking about that there's not necessarily like, my mind
Speaker 1: goes back to anime power levels. But um, who is
Speaker 1: the strongest forcesar? Is that Palpatine? It depends on when
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it depends on when you're asked. I
Speaker 1: feel like, as of today it has to be him, right, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: before he got killed, I guess yeah. I wouldn't even
Speaker 1: put Yoda near the top, like in comparison to what
Speaker 1: Palpatine was able to do. Yeah, because again, when you're
Speaker 1: talking people that are aligning themselves with the dark side
Speaker 1: of the Force, it's that whole thing of only Sith
Speaker 1: deal and absolutes. But if you're dealing in absolutes, then well,
Speaker 1: you have the potential to just be extremely powerful because
Speaker 1: you have this unbridled approach to well, I'm just going
Speaker 1: to use it however I want, and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to fear any of it, or if I am afraid,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna embrace that fear and I'm gonna go there.
Speaker 1: Whereas with the Jedi there's always the well, I can't
Speaker 1: do that because that's like a getting star. Like the
Speaker 1: Sith do not have principles, right, and unfortunately, unprincipled people
Speaker 1: tend to be or are capable of becoming extremely powerful. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: in the two thousand four documentary Empire of Dreams, don'tyone
Speaker 1: see that it's on desert now. It's really good. I
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. George Lucas said, I wanted it
Speaker 1: to be a traditional moral story, to have some sort
Speaker 1: of palpable precepts in it that children could understand. He
Speaker 1: said that in a New York a New Yorker interview,
Speaker 1: there is always a lesson to be learned. Traditionally we
Speaker 1: get them from church, the family, art, and in the
Speaker 1: modern world we get them from media, from movies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Flash Gordon was a huge influence to him, and also
Speaker 1: Joseph Campbell's The Hero with a Thousand Faces. He wanted
Speaker 1: to He wanted to recreate a classic genre. You know.
Speaker 1: Joseph Campbell looked at the links that connected myths from
Speaker 1: cultures across the globe, and Campbell Campbell called Lucas his
Speaker 1: best student. While writing the original Star Wars, Lucas would
Speaker 1: frequently call on Campbell to help guide him. It's like, YO,
Speaker 1: help me out telling about these Menachlorians. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: super in line. I think with everything too that's happening
Speaker 1: in Star Wars now. I mean Ash was literally on
Speaker 1: stage with him when Werner hurtz Ark was like you're
Speaker 1: creating new mythologies, which is which I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: what Star Wars is like. So much of it is
Speaker 1: very rooted in in this mythological idea of magical energies
Speaker 1: and trying to explain why things happen the way that
Speaker 1: they do. Um and yeah, and I think too again,
Speaker 1: like George Lucas when he made Star Wars was not
Speaker 1: reinventing the wheel. He was taking these broad concepts ups
Speaker 1: and the story tropes that already existed that we'd seen
Speaker 1: executed quite a lot, and just putting them into a
Speaker 1: new setting. And I think that's a lot of why
Speaker 1: Star Wars was as successful as it was and continues
Speaker 1: to endure the way that it does. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: believe that a lot of the best artists borrow, you know,
Speaker 1: and and recreate in their own, you know ways, which
Speaker 1: is why that you know, you take something and almost
Speaker 1: challenge it or turn it on its head to kind
Speaker 1: of create something new. You can say something did a
Speaker 1: huge like an open mouth thing, say yeah, this is
Speaker 1: what women doing. All panels were like talk. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to talk an idea. No, No, it's
Speaker 1: just a habit. Now um No, I was just gonna say, like,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like when you think about like the Bible,
Speaker 1: like the first chapter or the first like words are
Speaker 1: just like let there be light. And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what the forces and then cut to However, many
Speaker 1: pages later it's the most complicated. You're like, well, what
Speaker 1: do they mean by that? Well, I mean that's the
Speaker 1: fun about it too, is like one thing that I mean,
Speaker 1: we're on like seventy plus episodes of Nerdificent, and one
Speaker 1: thing I think me and Danny have learned from a
Speaker 1: lot of nerd properties that are huge is that it
Speaker 1: usually starts from a very small, very simple idea, and
Speaker 1: then the more you kind of add on that foundation,
Speaker 1: the more it starts getting a little shaky because it
Speaker 1: comes from this simple idea like oh, we just want
Speaker 1: to sell toys, or oh we here's here's a simple
Speaker 1: story that I want to tell, and they're like, but
Speaker 1: what if we added fifty more parts to it? And
Speaker 1: then you're kind of like building on a story that
Speaker 1: was meant to end, and then you have the added
Speaker 1: bonus of people contributing to it. I think that's something
Speaker 1: we see in comics, which you know, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people may not know. But like a lot
Speaker 1: of comic book cannon is fairly new. It used to
Speaker 1: be whoever wrote the comic it was whenever they whenever
Speaker 1: they wanted, And now as we move into the new era,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, no, hold on, we all have to
Speaker 1: have meetings. Well, why can't we keep it straight anymore?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean Star Wars is a little bit
Speaker 1: that way too, because you talk about any of the
Speaker 1: sort of bonus works that came out prior to the
Speaker 1: Disney acquisition, a lot of it now is considered to
Speaker 1: not be canon, and even within the legend stuff like
Speaker 1: it's it's not consistent across the board, Like there's there's
Speaker 1: super contradictory information in the different books because again the authors,
Speaker 1: by and large, we're creating whatever Star Wars they wanted. Um,
Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's similar to comic books in that regard.
Speaker 1: I know, it's very interesting because I know, just I
Speaker 1: can see why it's so you know, popular, because the
Speaker 1: universe pleases every real one. The universe pleases the you know,
Speaker 1: people who spend the money and make the money. Because
Speaker 1: it's money. You just keep making money, you keep adding
Speaker 1: to this. I p the creatives, you get more time
Speaker 1: to tell your stories, you get more breathing room, you
Speaker 1: get to collaborate with a lot of people and the fans.
Speaker 1: You get more content. So it's that one weird thing
Speaker 1: where like universe building is something that it rarely uh
Speaker 1: that that is one of the rare things that pleases everyone,
Speaker 1: which is why there was such a I think right
Speaker 1: at the height of the real, real new trilogy of
Speaker 1: Star Wars and you know Marvel kind of leading towards
Speaker 1: Infinity War, you had people trying to force universes shout
Speaker 1: out to um, what was it the the one that
Speaker 1: the Mummy was supposed to be a part of. They
Speaker 1: really try And it's funny because it's like it's kind
Speaker 1: of like the thing of like even if you're planning
Speaker 1: a universe, you can't like I'm out, like you can't
Speaker 1: come out with it, like even like for sure, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know Figgy was planning all the Marvel stuff
Speaker 1: since Iron Man, but he just made Iron Man. But
Speaker 1: when you come out where it's like this Mommy is
Speaker 1: going to be a part of the big thing, you
Speaker 1: I think, you start to make incomplete things because you're
Speaker 1: making puzzle pieces, because I mean that's how Star Wars started.
Speaker 1: I think Star Wars is George Lucas's Flash Gordon fan fiction.
Speaker 1: It just is UM with a with a new code
Speaker 1: of paint on it that was really nice and stuck.
Speaker 1: And so then they made subsequent films, and I mean
Speaker 1: he talks in that documentary about how he did have
Speaker 1: more story that he wanted to tell, but when they
Speaker 1: made that first Star Wars film, they were not necessarily
Speaker 1: planning on making anything else. It wasn't exactly UM, and
Speaker 1: so it it. And like the episode four thing at
Speaker 1: the beginning is it's almost a joke of like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is a cereal, like a Flash Gordon cereal, and
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it was supposed to be. But because
Speaker 1: it evolved organically, and you did start out again with
Speaker 1: that very simple concept that sort of let there be light,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you're stacking more and
Speaker 1: more stuff on top of it. Now you have all
Speaker 1: of these other concepts, all of this fictional history, this
Speaker 1: mythology and stuff like the force for fans to discuss
Speaker 1: and theorize about. And that's why these things work, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: And that's also why you can have something as simple
Speaker 1: as a description of the reason people can choke push
Speaker 1: and pull turn into lightning and life saving events. So
Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think. The last question I think
Speaker 1: we can ask everyone around the table is what is
Speaker 1: something you know, maybe a final word word you have
Speaker 1: about the Force, or something you think everyone should know
Speaker 1: about the Force, or maybe one of your favorite Force moments.
Speaker 1: It's a loaded question so much, I think for to
Speaker 1: dig into. The first thing about the Force that comes
Speaker 1: to mind is something that Asoka said uh in Rebels,
Speaker 1: where she was like, the more I learned about the Force,
Speaker 1: like she had been a Jedi, she was going towards
Speaker 1: the middle path. She was like, the more I learned
Speaker 1: about the Force, the more I know that I am
Speaker 1: never like she's never going to stop learning, or you
Speaker 1: don't know anything about the Force no matter how much
Speaker 1: you know. Um, And that just sounds like a really
Speaker 1: good like building point, but it's also very true. By
Speaker 1: and large, I think that the way Star Wars Rebels
Speaker 1: deals with the Force is extremely interesting, and it added
Speaker 1: so many fascinating layers to it. I would be remiss
Speaker 1: to not mention the one time that's because I did.
Speaker 1: I did an episode of four center, Kennap Sock and
Speaker 1: josephs from Shaw and at the time jehnfer Lando was
Speaker 1: still on the show with him and she still pops
Speaker 1: up occasionally where we talked about time travel in Star
Speaker 1: Wars and how we did not want to see it
Speaker 1: at all, but then Star Wars Rebels introduced us to
Speaker 1: the World between Worlds and I went, if you're going
Speaker 1: to do time travel, that's the way you're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: We're effectively, as was able to go into this sort
Speaker 1: of uh a void in the midst of time and
Speaker 1: space via the powers of the Force UH and effectively
Speaker 1: rescues as Katana, who I think is one of the
Speaker 1: most interesting Force using characters because after she leaves the
Speaker 1: Jedi Order, she's not like, she doesn't identify as a
Speaker 1: Jedi anymore, and she's she's like the one character who
Speaker 1: I feel like was truly trying to find that middle
Speaker 1: ground I mean, And in Rebels we have a character
Speaker 1: that is that middle ground, the Ben Do Uh, who's
Speaker 1: sort of this big yack monster topic. It's guys, sorry,
Speaker 1: if you are like Star Wars it was weird, watch
Speaker 1: Star Wars Rebels. It's really weird. They do it so
Speaker 1: so well, um and uh and yeah so so to me,
Speaker 1: that was such an exciting moment of introducing like here's
Speaker 1: here's like where the It's so in line with my
Speaker 1: own concept of the force that it is just this
Speaker 1: energy that that is uh ever renewing. It can never
Speaker 1: be destroyed. It is constantly flowing between all beings. It
Speaker 1: is always renewed. When when somebody dies, they become part
Speaker 1: of the Force. I mean, you know literally says that.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, that to me, that episode is just
Speaker 1: like this, this is everything that I like about the Force.
Speaker 1: And I could talk about this for three hours. Wow,
Speaker 1: I can't go after you. I just I think I
Speaker 1: like to, like when I'm on something like this is
Speaker 1: just to like break everything down and as Lehman's terms
Speaker 1: as I can for people and like for me, it's
Speaker 1: just like the force is just something that everybody has
Speaker 1: inside them, and if you can manifest that power, then
Speaker 1: you can use it in all these awesome ways. And
Speaker 1: everybody has it, which is why Finn discovering that he
Speaker 1: has it. Yea, like everybody has it in them. I
Speaker 1: stand very strongly by the every that any every being
Speaker 1: has the force, and any sentient being has the ability
Speaker 1: to tap into it. We have seen Sabine Mandaloria again
Speaker 1: in rebels Um. She was training with Kanan, who was
Speaker 1: a Jedi and one of their their their colleagues, their compatriots.
Speaker 1: Harrah comes up and asks because they are training with
Speaker 1: the dark Saber against the Lightsaber, um if Kanan thinks
Speaker 1: she has the force, and he says, all she has
Speaker 1: to do is accepted and it's her, you know, like,
Speaker 1: could you imagine to do? Is? Oh? Yeah, all I
Speaker 1: have to do is believe it and then I can
Speaker 1: just levitate my case to myself. Sign me up. I
Speaker 1: believe in the Force. I will go to Forest Church
Speaker 1: every Sunday. We wanted to give special thanks to Fandom
Speaker 1: and Terry Mattingly who helped with a lot of our
Speaker 1: notes in fact checking on the Forces out. I would
Speaker 1: say my favorite uses anytime someone as the Jedi mind trick.
Speaker 1: I love it. It It never gets old. It's pretty fun,
Speaker 1: gets old in every in every movie. I love it. Um, Yes,
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Speaker 1: up uh and keep the conversation alive. I wanted to
Speaker 1: say I didn't mean to. I kind of dropped off,
Speaker 1: but for people that know me, I was like really open.
Speaker 1: I was in io P for like sixty days, um,
Speaker 1: which is great. It's an intensive therapy and was needed
Speaker 1: and anyways, I didn't mean to fully drop off, but
Speaker 1: I will pop back in there. Yeah. No, just whenever
Speaker 1: you whenever you have free time, you're busy, I have
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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, like we always say, stay nerdy,