WEBVTT - Episode 92: Star Wars - The Force 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.840 Everyone, and welcome to another episode of Nerro Deficent. I'm 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:16.079 your host if you want to wait, it's hitting across 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:20.919 from me, as always is Danny Fernandez. I'm back. We're 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.400 both back. But also I'm back. I've been gone for 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.840 like three weeks. Since you've been gone. Um, since you've 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:30.400 been gone, I can breathe for the first time, I 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.360 can I breathe. Yeah, you're the only one in l 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:34.560 A that can breathe right now. Like everybody is sick, 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:38.000 you're the only one. Well that's because you know, while 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.000 everyone was out of town getting sick, since I was, 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.559 since I'm in l A Native, I was breathing in 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:47.040 all these beach waves. No, that's not the No, that's 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:50.479 not what's he that's sucking in that good. I honestly 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.280 think I got sick because our wildfires. When all the 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.360 smoke settles. Um, then when the rains came, I think 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.959 it like it had all still been there. So um. Anyways, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.400 I know I'm correct because Emma five is shaking her 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.400 well because I was here. I did not go out 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.039 of town over Christmas. But I think that, Yeah, there's 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:09.880 there's a level of that, and there's also a level 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.600 of all of these people who did get sick coming 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:17.279 back came back and that that was since you've been gone. Um. 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.840 That is our friend Emma five joining us. You will 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.240 recognize her that you are in our RPG episode. I was, yeah, yeah, 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.560 she's pop culture host Emma five. We also have joining us, 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.240 We have two other guests. They were really bringing it in, 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.720 bringing in that new year, big big glow up. We 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:38.200 have filmmaker Katrina Dennis. This is your first time on, 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.360 my first time on, and also my first time being 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.600 introduced as a filmmaker, so that's really yes, welcome to 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:47.319 the party. Um. And then we also have producer and 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.760 host of e T online dot com. It's Ash Crossing. Hey, 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:55.080 also a first timer hopefully not the last, absolutely not. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.280 I was Ash, I got to be on your show. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.400 We talked about how Jafar is a jatty. He's a 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.000 jatty yeah, and we talked about the genie, which I 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:06.160 ended up thinking that movie slept really hard. There you go, 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:13.560 what's a jatty hot? I wish I did an interview 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.040 with me him soon he got really mad when I 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.519 said that he was like he was he was like 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:21.400 a Laddin's hot. I was like, dude, a, Laddin has 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:26.040 always been hot, Mina. Do you think he's threatened by 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.440 sexy Jafar? Probably, Well, he has to be sorry to 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:30.840 mean to cut you off, go for it. I was 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.800 gonna say, well, he has to be um kid friendly, 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.040 you know what I mean, Like he comes across as 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:39.919 like wholesome and too far as not. He's the villain 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:44.240 that you just want to punish you totally. Villain makes 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.560 a good Disney villain. That's why they have like a 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.080 whole merchandise nine. Now everybody loves this sexy. It is 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:54.600 just raw sexual energy. And people even thought Scar was sexy, 0:02:54.760 --> 0:03:02.480 you know, the whole Lion Law Live the King and 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.919 he's all right, dude, calm down, you're just killing your brother. Well, 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.480 and then we found out that he had a family. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.160 He was getting it on and his son was hot. 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:18.640 Apparently all the villains are getting it on. What I 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.280 know this is this is exciting. You know, instead of 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:26.600 just tackling one huge property on one episode, we're like 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.440 spread and love and I think we're doing something fun, 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.600 you know, instead of doing your typical deep dive of 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.680 like a property that has existed for years that people 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.280 have have done many a deep dives on many of things. 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.560 We're going to take out parts that are interesting and 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.760 explore them. So today we're talking about Star Wars, but 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.119 we're not talking about a specific movie, We're not talking 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:51.119 about a specific episode. We're talking about the Force, which 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:55.160 I think first first thing we want to talk about, 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.920 especially if you see all these like Star Wars nerds 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.040 talking about mitachlore Glorians online, You're like, what are the 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.920 what what? What what are they saying? I mean, is 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.880 that canon? Yes, yeah, I mean it's in the prequels. 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.080 Every time I see Darth Vader, like when I go 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.800 back and watch the original trilogy, every time I see him, 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:25.839 I'm like, that's Hayden Christensen under there, that's him. Yeah. Um. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.000 We are talking about the Force, and we wanted to 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.760 give a brief disclaimer that all of the information in 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.120 today's episode come This is from Joel Monique are amazing 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.120 researcher who wants to make sure that she's that we 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:42.000 cover ourselves. Everything uh in today's episode comes from the 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.719 Legends leg of Star Wars. When Disney purchased Lucasfilm, many 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.479 of the novels, comic books, cartoons, and video game storylines 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:52.200 transitioned out of cannon and into legends. At any time, 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.880 the good folks at Disney can brings something out of 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.520 legends and into the current canon. This creates some awesome 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.760 headcanon and sometimes confused fan base, but it also makes 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.760 for an incredibly rich history to dig through as fans. Yeah, 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.240 I think the best, the best and simple description is, 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.800 you know, you have your movies, but through like I said, 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.080 this is how many years old you know, so you 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:20.200 had novels, you had, you know, many a games, You've 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.240 had all these different things that came out, and instead 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:27.039 of just being like none of it means anything, I 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.359 think the smarter move was just that they they describe 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.680 it as legends. There their myths, and you know, myths 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.560 that can be real or not depending on who is 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:41.279 writing the movie from a certain point of view. I 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.120 did want to say this will contain spoilers from Rise 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.320 of Skywalker. If you haven't seen it yet, I don't 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.880 you probably do not care about this episode, to be honest, 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.640 because anyone that cares about Star Wars stuff has probably 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.640 seen it by now. Yeah. Oh that's this is going 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.839 to be a small um and I'm gonna make it 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:58.640 super quick because we have so much to go through. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:02.719 But it was the discussion and I just everyone trying 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:07.120 as Kurt of response that you can. But the last 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:12.000 I remember clearly when The Force Awakens came out, because 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:13.800 The Force Awakens came out while I was working on 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:19.479 at midnight, and every comedian, because they're so original, wanted 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.400 to come on the show uh and spoil uh and 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:28.160 spoil that uh han dies every every comedian, every and 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.520 so the first time someone did it, we bleeped it out, 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.240 like straight up bleeped it out. And then eventually someone 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.680 tried because because we would also be like no, but 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.760 like of course, people who were like you know, regulars 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.000 on the show had a little more freedom, will just 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.400 sneak it in there, and we bleeped it. And then 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.919 eventually I think it was like three weeks or or 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.320 so passed and Chris just let it live on the 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:57.719 air and he had so much hate online. And it 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.560 is interesting because then we had a big discussion in 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:04.600 the room of like, when is the the spoiler cut off? 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.200 And I and I was, I was, I'm more unfair 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.880 with it because I treat and I hold myself to 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.960 the same standards. I don't get mad. If I want 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.440 to see something, then I stay off of social media 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.720 for the week. But I say after three weeks it's 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.640 fair game. And some people say after it's run in 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.120 the theaters, which I think is the safest. But I 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.440 think after three weeks, because if you don't within three 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.200 weeks want to see it and look, I get it. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.560 People are like, oh man, um, some people can't afford 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:38.440 to see it. And usually the person who says that 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.360 excuse is not that person like usually it's the it's 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.760 someone who's trying to start an argument like I've never 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.320 once been like because I remember this happened. Uh someone 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.320 said that. Chris was like, Okay, I'll buy your movie 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.080 ticket right now, and they're like, well I saw it already, 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.080 and he was like what then, why are you making 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.400 that argument? And my general rule is like, thankfully with 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.760 a lot of Star Wars films releasing around the holidays, 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.360 I'm totally for that. Um. My general rule is to 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.960 wait until after the holidays because that's when families have 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.160 gotten together, and Star Wars first and foremost is a 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.920 family franchise. You so see it with your with your parents, 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.800 you know. Um, So that once people are rolling back 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.360 in from the holidays. I'm like, all right, we're gonna 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:21.560 talk about this. Yeah, what about you? Ash Well. This 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.000 made me really much appreciate what the Russo brothers did 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.960 that one time when they were like, hey, guys, come Monday, 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:31.520 we're talking about spoilers. You guys can put it on Twitter, 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.120 like until then, just shut your mouths, and like pretty 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.400 much everyone did it. Yeah. I kind of wish we 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.360 just had this like beacon of light every time that 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:42.680 was like, hey guys, on Febru we're talking like Star 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.800 Wars spoilers. I think it's one of those things, like 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.120 that escape room effect where you just need the one 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.440 person to make a rule and everyone will just obey. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.640 It sounds like the Mandalorian right, Like people still haven't 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.560 seen it like in the country, so it's like when 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.920 when are we talking about the People started blasting super 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.560 interesting back and forth with Matt Martin from the story 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.000 group at Lucasfilm, where he was like he post something. 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.760 He's like, so is it okay to post? I mean 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.600 he works for Lucasfilm and I was like, I don't 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.800 know if I should post this thing because I'm trying 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.000 to be respectful of the fact, the people in the 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.160 UK haven't seen it, so even when I would tweet 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.679 about baby, I would always be bank tweets. Uh. But 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.959 this was like three weeks after the first episode of 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.960 The Mandalorian had aired, So yeah, it's still it is 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:28.920 like this weird gray territory. Mandalorians different because it's like 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.160 you can watch it in your living room. So but 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.040 to me, it's like people who didn't go to work 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.320 would watch it in the morning, and that I would. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.839 I just didn't have time. I mean, if I wasn't 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:41.560 writing on this ship, like I would probably be there too, 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.920 but then they would start tweeting. But also like if 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.960 he said I would just stay off of it. Mine 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.959 for movies is about two weeks. I'm like, if it 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.680 meant anything to you, you would have snuck in there. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:53.720 I don't know. You would have lied. You would have 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:58.280 liked gotten a boughten a ticket to go see something 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.360 smaller and then snuck in. I don't know. You would 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.640 have trench coat, like three kids in a trench coat. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:06.000 You would have figured it out. And anything Star Wars, 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.720 Marvel like those huge things. I think I give you 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.880 two weeks and then if not, like just don't be 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:16.240 on social media. We have muted words now, mut the 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:20.000 crap out of stuff all the time and it works. Um. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.160 Speaking of the Force, I kind of wanted to go 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:30.080 around and just see how each person would describe it. Serious, 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:33.880 can be can be silly. I'll go first, Um, the Force. 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.439 How do I think it's like the Holy Spirit? I 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.679 don't know. Um, It's like I'm trying to think of 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:46.280 what else and I can always go from like DBZ lore. Um, 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:50.880 it's yeah, like this spirit. I don't want to use force. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:55.120 I need a look energy. It's an energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.079 that's what we use in in the anime world. UM. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.600 I guess ash, how would you describe it? Um? I 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.360 would describe it as George Lucas probably sitting around and 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.400 the remote was across the room or whatever, and he 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:10.920 was like, I wish I could just to me like Matilda. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:12.920 And then he was like I'm going to do a 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.440 movie about this, And then I think that you are like, yeah, 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.439 I just want to levitate stuff for me, and then 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:22.400 and then it just got incredibly complex after that. Yeah. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.480 I think as a nerd, I would describe it as 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:30.120 space magic, and as a screenwriter, I would describe it 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:35.000 as the the literal, uh, the literal metaphor for light 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.880 and darkness, and just expectedly how it especially how it enters, 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.839 how the Jedi interact with the Sith, and how it 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.959 is they are just straight up just plot light and 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:51.400 Seth is plot dark. I've always thought of it, and 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.079 I'm pretty sure it was said in one of the 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:57.480 Star Wars films or cartoons or whatever as basically the 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:01.480 energy that flows between all living things. I mean, it's 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:07.040 it's not it's it's not actually that sort of fantastical 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.880 of a concept when you think of the idea of that, 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:14.400 Like there is that like energy is constantly renewable, Like 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:18.319 when something dies, it's not dead, it's just having its 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.800 energy repurposed. And so that's very much what I think. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.520 That the Forces and the Jedi are just the people 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.400 that are able to tap into and utilize this thing 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:31.560 that's there. Yeah, I would say that it is no 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.640 less or more complicated than exactly what Obi Wan said 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.559 uh in a New Hope. It's an energy that flows 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.719 through all of us. It binds us together, um. And 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:43.880 what that means is that it drives our paths in 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:48.000 different in the movies or not ours I'm sure we've 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.080 all come together because we're just very lucky. Um. But 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.720 it weaves passed together that we need to be woven together. UM. 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:58.440 It's not necessarily a power level like some treat people 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.120 seem to treat it as. UM. It's it's a thing 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.920 that exists that like people who everyone in a way 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.080 has access to it. But those who know about it 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.280 and accept its existence are the people who can do 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.040 force Monks stuff. I love it. I'm so into witchcraft 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.079 and I just realized that their brew has there are 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.840 no there are actual force brew Has, and I would 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.400 love to talk about them today to answer what is 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:28.760 the force? Based on what our research? Uh. It's referred 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.960 to as the way in ancient times, and the force 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.200 can be broken down in the four distinct parts, the 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:37.560 living force, unifying force, the cosmic force, and the physical force. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.200 The light side and the dark side of force deal 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.600 in moral ethics, and users of the light side are 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.839 considered compassionate, healing, and merciful, while the dark side deals 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:51.760 and absolutes fear, anger, and revenge. Living force deals with 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.079 the force within living beings. The unify The unifying force 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.440 deals with space and time. The cosmic force deals with 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.640 in life and after day, and the physical force deals 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.680 with anything in the physical realm. The force resides and 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.960 all living things, but can only be controlled by force 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.840 sensitive creatures. The forces measured and being uh and being 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:21.120 by midic Midicalorean counts. So there it is. Is that word. Actually, 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.120 if you've seen Star Wars, which I know you have, 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:33.480 everyone pronounces everything eighteen different ways. So Midaclorean's in my 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.480 book is just as correct. Um, I have a question 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.880 that's done, But I don't you know. I'm in a 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.640 safe place and have not studied these as much as 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:47.120 you have. So the Sith, like, when I think of that, 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.320 are some of the people that are considered bad using 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:55.400 the good elements of the force. There's there have been 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.280 Sith who have started on the path toward not necessarily 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.400 the lights, but the balance of the force. Yeah, I 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.280 will bring up that space through how assage Ventress as 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.240 one of those characters who started on an arc like that, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.200 and she was still using dark side magic, but she 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.640 was beginning to open up to light side theories, and 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:19.080 so her path changed because of that. So sith Sith 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:24.120 are like are uh servants of the dark Side. They're 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:28.080 they're they're under the oppression of the dark side willingly. Yeah, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:32.040 because the dark side has much more attractive qualities. Yeah, 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:36.280 except it makes you real ugly. It really ruins. Yeah, 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.240 but I don't have a good skincare routine anyway, because 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.640 like a light side is all like you. You don't 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:45.200 you know, sleep with anyone. You're just like very merciful, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.960 You're very nice. You don't like and like, yeah, the 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.440 dark side you can just like you know, you can 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.760 do stuff up. Yeah, yeah, do whatever you want, do 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.520 whatever you want. You can be mad at people and 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.440 use the force about like, yeah, I would much rather 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.240 be a Sith. Sorry. I think that's some thing that 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.920 I was aware of as a little kid when I 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.440 was first watching Star Wars and was introduced to this 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.160 concept of the light side in the dark side of 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:11.080 the Force, and I always gravitated more towards the Han 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.040 solos and being that sort of character with Star Wars 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.400 because I was so aware of the fact that since 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.720 I was such an emotional child, like I've I was 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:22.680 done for if I were force sensitive, I would have 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.960 been like sifth day one, Yeah, I've been like, yeah, Palpy, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.960 I'll go with you. Let's do it, But I always 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.040 thought that was funny when people talk about Kylo Wren 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.440 like throwing tantrums, I'm like, what would you do if 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.920 you add all that power? Like, it's so funny. It's 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.200 like the whatever the is it the Yale prison experiment 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:45.240 or something. Humans actually turn really quickly on each other 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.880 when given absolute power. Uh so, how did we become 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.800 conscious of the force? But we have celestials. The force 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.760 has been passed down from one powerful organization to the 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.720 next throughout time. It began with celestials, I hope. I'm 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.640 saying at one right known as the Architects, and they 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.800 were an ancient civilization who were present long before the 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.280 dawn of the galactic community, believed to be responsible for 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:15.119 a number of large artifacts, an anomalous planetary formations, and 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.919 species placements throughout the galaxy. What was known about the 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:24.600 Celestials came from zeno archaeology. This is a lot um. 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.520 The Jedi and the sith alike theorized that the balance 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.360 between the light and dark sides of the force were 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.560 actually under the guidance of the Celestials. When did this 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.680 come into play? Did they talk about this and other 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:41.359 the Celestials? Yeah, I mean in legends, yes, yeah, the 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:44.280 there and somebody can fix my brain on this if 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.000 that has come into play in any deep I was 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.239 trying to think that. I was trying to think too 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.280 if they had addressed that in New Cannon at all, 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:56.640 and I'm just coming up with like vacant statues. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:58.960 I think the furthest fact that we have right now 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.879 established in New Annon is the father, the daughter and 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.399 yes exactly, and those are like the closest to the 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.840 steels that we have right now. Okay, yeah, but they 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.200 were not necessarily like the founding. Yeah, they just were 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:16.480 ancient manifestations of the Force, so mentioned in the comic 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.920 Lando Double or nothing too. Um. But it's a very 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:27.760 very small country. Quick Cannon check up though. So are 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:32.320 the current comics considered cannon? Yes? Yeah, everything that was 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.560 published after that buy is considered cannon, along with the 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.919 dark Horse Darth Maul, son of Dathamir run Um. That 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.760 was just the one that they were like, now, we 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.480 don't need to change that one at all. Okay, So 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:52.560 what exactly does the Force do or can do? Well? 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.600 I mean a lot of things. One of the more 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.840 recent things that has been explored within Star Wars Cannon 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.639 is obviously force healing. That's something that we saw both 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.320 in Rise of Skywalker and also in The Mandalorian, which 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:07.840 was really interesting because you know, in I think it 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.280 was episode two of The Mandalorian, we see Baby Yoda 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:15.520 like et hand trying to reach out the Mandalorian when 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.040 he's injured himself, and in my mind, I went, oh, 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.520 he's trying to heal him. Of course, because to me 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.040 it made sense that the force is something that could heal, 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:28.640 even though we hadn't necessarily super addressed that until then. Um. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:30.720 And then obviously we saw it in Rise of Skywalker 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:32.520 in the way that it played out, because I saw 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.639 Rise of Skywalker at a screening on Tuesday before it 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:40.119 came out. Uh So obviously in that Ray heals the 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.199 sort of snake monster, and then you know, sort of 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.600 equal exchange because she explains that the way she's doing 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.119 it is by basically transferring some of her life energy. 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.600 Because again this goes back to my whole theory about 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.320 the Force that it's just it's the energy that flows 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:55.600 between everything, and so you sort of have this equal 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:59.159 exchange at the end when Ben Solo puts all of 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.880 his life energy into her dead body so that she's 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.320 able to come back to life and then oops, he dies. 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:07.879 But it played out really well because then in the 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.040 episode of The Mandalorian the air that week we did 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.840 actually see baby out a force hill. Somebody such as 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:16.679 why he passes out? I know, So is he the 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.240 only one that had that we've seen that has done 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.640 that or have in the history of like what we've 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:25.000 seen in media, have any of the other passed out 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:29.080 or gotten tired? In the Sorry to jump in more 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:34.560 to stuff, the daughter Ashla, who is one of those 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:39.680 like very uh forced bound beings um a Soca basically 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:43.919 dies Asoka Anakin Skywalker's Paddawan dies in this in this ark, 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:47.959 and the daughter gives her life, her life energy, her 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.320 life force to Asoka so she can live, and the 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.199 daughter passes on and becomes like a being of the 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:56.679 force that is actually a very cute little owl. And 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:58.679 then I know, I was going to say another thing 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.280 that I know is forced ghosts. Oh yes, yeah, as 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:06.880 you want to explain what those are because only some 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:10.679 people can do that. Yeah, only like the light side 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.720 can do that, because if you are on the dark side, 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.719 like make a deal like live long longer exactly, kind 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.160 of just keep it. It's kind of like a vampire thing, 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.560 where like if you become a vampire, you're gonna live 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:28.119 forever in theory, unless you're killed, um becoming an angel. 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.359 But yeah, but then if you die, that's it done. 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:37.359 So so was Han what was he? I took that 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:41.600 as lay A projected, and I feel like behind the 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.360 scenes that was maybe supposed to be a scene between 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:48.280 her and then, but with Carrie's passing, I feel like 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.160 they were like, okay, let's do well to come out 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:56.360 of his house for that, but not his hair. No, not. 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:58.639 He was like, I'm just going to show up and 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:01.840 do this. They took the airing out, and it was 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:03.879 kind of weird to me that, like he had no 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:07.680 problem like stabbing his dad and then was like, oh wait, 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:12.800 you're right dad. Well, I'm so glad that I have 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.120 y'all to give me the behind the scenes going back 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:18.199 to force ghosts real quick. So the whole theory behind that, 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.880 since you did really want to know, um, the Lightsiders 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.119 can do that, but it's knowledge that has to be 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.639 strongly passed on. Yoda didn't know how to do it, 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:29.720 but Quigan did. Because Quigan didn't really believe entirely in 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:32.040 the Light Tide have the balance, and he just smoked 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.000 a lot of weed. I like to say that here 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.720