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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Hey everybody, It's Monday, September twenty fifth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three. Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's

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Speaker 1: me and your man, MG Marcus Grand joined by a

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Speaker 1: power Michael f Florio. You know in the time it

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Speaker 1: took me to do that introduction, the Miami Dolphins have

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Speaker 1: scored another touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I love that they could have set the record, but

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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel was like, now this is where we're gonna

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Speaker 2: draw the line.

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna kick a field goal here.

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Speaker 1: I saw like a lot of people on Twitter saying like,

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Speaker 1: that's even more disrespectful. It's like, we could have set

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Speaker 1: the record, but we decided to take it easy on

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Speaker 1: you and just shut it down for now.

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Speaker 2: I saw another thing that was like, it was disrespectful

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Speaker 2: to let Russell Wilson still be out there in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Sean Payne was just like, get it.

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Speaker 3: I don't care, I don't care. Just don't do whatever

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Speaker 1: It's seventy points scored by an NFL team against another

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Speaker 1: NFL team in one singular game. That was one of

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Speaker 1: the big takeaways from Week three. We have some of

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Speaker 1: our other biggest takeaways from the week that was. We'll

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Speaker 1: go through some top performers, biggest disappointments, and what exactly

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Speaker 1: do we do now about Kyle Pitts. We'll get him too.

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Speaker 1: All that and more, But first let's get to some

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Speaker 1: fantasy headlines, as we always do this time of the show.

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Speaker 3: Big one.

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Speaker 1: This one just announced earlier on Monday morning, some unfortunate

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Speaker 1: news for Mike Williams and for the Chargers. Williams tore

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Speaker 1: his ACL in the Chargers win over the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. He will miss the remainder of the season.

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Speaker 1: First off, Florio obviously tough news for Williams individually. The

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Speaker 1: NFL is what the NFL is. So who is the

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Speaker 1: next man up for the Bolts with Williams gone?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this sucks for Mike Williams. He was having on

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Speaker 2: pace I think to have a monstrous season if he

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Speaker 2: stayed healthy. I think it's going It's not one specific player.

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Speaker 2: I think it's two guys, between Josh Palmer and Quinton Johnston.

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Speaker 2: I think Palmer is probably the safer bet and the

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Speaker 2: one you could rely on more immediately, but Quentin Johnston

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Speaker 2: is the one that I'm more interested in because I

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Speaker 2: think long term he is the upside play. He is

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Speaker 2: a player that I've loved since the draft, and now

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Speaker 2: I think he'll get a larger opportunity moving forward.

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Speaker 1: What was interesting about Quintin Johnston, especially at TCU, is

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Speaker 1: he was a guy who was a downfield threat. He

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Speaker 1: also had a big yards after catch number. Generally you

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Speaker 1: get one or the other out of a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: you don't get both. So far, he really hasn't been

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Speaker 1: able to get on the field consistently, hasn't really been

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Speaker 1: able to be a big target earner. The on field

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Speaker 1: opportunity is going to rise, without a doubt. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: I think in the short term, Josh Palmer's the guy

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Speaker 1: it looked like Justin Herbert was trying to get Palmer

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Speaker 1: to wait, I think Quentin Johnston's probably the guy you

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Speaker 1: lost Mike Williams, then Josh Palmer's probably the guy that

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Speaker 1: tough blow for Mike Williams himself. Nineteen catches, two hundred

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Speaker 1: things this season, the Chargers just cannot have nice things,

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Speaker 1: ough Man. Derek Carr suffered a shoulder injury in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans loss to the Green Bay Packers. Now, according to

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Speaker 1: Seems to have avoided a more serious injury than what

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Speaker 1: I guess the upside though, it does not look like

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Speaker 1: things turned out to Jamis Winston. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: But Jamis is going to be in there throwing those

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Speaker 2: I think Chris Olave benefits the most because we saw

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Speaker 2: But Michael Thomas is still doing his thing and getting

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Speaker 2: have three fantasy relevant wide receivers moving forward.

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Speaker 1: You would think so, although it was weird because the

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Speaker 2: And while we're on the Saints, Alvin Kamara's back week

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about I'm gonna start Ovin Kamara.

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Speaker 1: I haven't won a lot of lineups where I was

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Speaker 1: it's all. It's all systems agreed. So those are some

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Speaker 2: The Jets backfield right now is unusable for fantasy football.

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Speaker 2: Like I know, Breis Hall had an uptacking snaps this week.

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Speaker 2: He played forty eight, had twelve carries, two targets. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook is the worst running back in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook had more yards on fewer touches than Breeze

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Speaker 2: Michael Carter's eating into the volume right now, and then.

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Speaker 3: They played the Chiefs this week.

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Speaker 2: They could be down multiple scores five minutes into this game,

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Speaker 2: I think Brees Hall is a player that you clearly

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Speaker 3: It seems I.

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Speaker 1: Would even extend that to just the Jets offensive skill

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Speaker 1: It's just hard to We don't trust any of the

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Speaker 1: I think you can just say that the Jets offense

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Speaker 1: On top of it, you have your quarterback talking about

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Speaker 3: You know, we on this show are sort.

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Speaker 1: Of dubious about Isaiah Pachecko, but we were both unanimous about, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Week one, Aaron Jones did it as a pass catcher.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs running backs, all three of them scored a

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Speaker 3: No one is talking about the Bears right now. That's

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Speaker 3: that's where it is.

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Speaker 1: More running back talk. That you have somebody that you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one hundred percent Travis Etn's backfields until

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Speaker 2: they get near the goal. And that is extremely frustrating

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Speaker 2: for fantasy purposes. Like yesterday, Travis Etn dominated volume. He

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Speaker 2: had nineteen carries, Tank Bigsby had two. He got five targets.

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Speaker 2: Bigsby had won. The issue is when they got on

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Speaker 2: goal one touchdowns have gone to Tank Bigsby. ETN does

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Speaker 2: Travis Etn still be a really good fantasy asset, maybe

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Speaker 2: even be a low end RB one in this role. Sure,

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Speaker 2: But as long as Take Bigsby is taking those goal

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Speaker 3: Into the season.

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Speaker 1: That's just really frustrating because he really has taken a

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Speaker 1: step forward and it seems like everything's going well and

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Speaker 1: then here comes Tank Bigsby. You uh, you know, to

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Speaker 1: some point it's going to happen. You have to believe.

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Speaker 1: But that's just a bad sign right now. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take it one step further because the thing I learned

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Speaker 1: is we need to have a talk about Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: because it's been that has been terrible, that has been great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the guy who was the QB

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Speaker 1: seven last year. They add Calvin Ridley to the offense,

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Speaker 1: we didn't know which Jaguars receiver we wanted to start

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Speaker 2: Me and you were on Sam Laporta since the drafts,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna keep fumbling around with I don't know, zach

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Speaker 2: I have a team where I have Waller and Laporta,

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Speaker 1: That last check he was rostered in fewer than ten

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Speaker 1: He ends with eight point seven Fantasy points. It was

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Speaker 2: The sad thing is every step that you said led

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons this week, like targets catch his yards

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Speaker 2: John new Smith I Jona Smid at eight targets. Don't

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do here to me, Look,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's droppable just because of the

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Speaker 2: tight end position, but he cannot be. They are only

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Speaker 2: tight end moving forward. You need to have someone else

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Speaker 2: play the matchups, whatever it may be. But like, this

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Speaker 2: didn't even give us nine Fantasy points. Nine Fantasy extremely frustrating,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't even know. I really don't know

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Speaker 3: You're sort of stuck with him. Nobody's gonna trade you

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Show. Top Performers four Week three, Heading into

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Speaker 1: the Monday night games, Justin Herbert your top fantasy quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Four hundred and five passing yards, three touchdowns, twenty nine

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Speaker 1: want to talk about a huge game. Two hundred and

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Speaker 1: The Vikings were just uninterested in standing near him. Eighteen

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Speaker 1: Sam Laporta, we keep telling you he's good. One day

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Speaker 1: Matt Gay said, hold my beer field four five field

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Speaker 2: The crazy thing is I'm looking at it right now.

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Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker scored thirty fantasy points this week. He is

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Speaker 2: Now he's the one to start here. I'm like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: My plea to Mike McDaniel, don't rush Jeff Wilson back. Nope,

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Speaker 1: We don't need three guys running the football there in Miami,

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Speaker 1: I mean right now, if you have a dolphin, start

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Speaker 2: That gag NFL next week, might I mean we might

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Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, it's pretty much been

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Speaker 1: our Chargers in fantasy. We couldn't do it without you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Amari Cooper. I just I'm gonna set this up

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Speaker 1: so you can take a victory lap because you were

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Speaker 1: leading the Amari Cooper charge all of last week and

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Speaker 1: he came through and you could have been even bigger

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Speaker 1: if the refs didn't miss a blatant call on the

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Speaker 1: side call him out of bounds when he was blatantly

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Speaker 1: in bounds. But even without that, it was still a

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Speaker 1: really good day for Amari Cooper.

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Speaker 2: Half of it is Amari Cooper's a really good wide

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Speaker 2: receiver that you want to start each and every week.

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Speaker 2: And the other half is you want to start wide

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Speaker 2: receivers against the Tennessee Titans. So like this was the

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Speaker 2: perfect storm for Cooper, but he's been getting a lot

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Speaker 2: of volume, been productive. It must start wide receiver as

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Speaker 2: long as he is healthy and in the Browns starting lineup.

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Speaker 2: Uh And yeah, man, that ref not only was it

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Speaker 2: a terrible call, he was right nex right. There was

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Speaker 2: no one on the planet closer to Amari Cooper, not

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Speaker 2: even the defender. And then that referee was I have

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Speaker 2: no idea what he saw.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because when it happened, I just saw people

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Speaker 1: on my timeline just complaining about the call. And it

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Speaker 1: wasn't until a few minutes later that I saw video

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Speaker 1: of it and just mind blown at how how that

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Speaker 1: call was missed.

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Speaker 2: He might have turned that into it. There was one

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Speaker 2: defender to beat kind of adown and Cooper put him

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Speaker 2: on skates like all he had to do because he

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Speaker 2: stopped after he juked him. He gets by him.

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Speaker 1: That's a touch very well could have been another touchdown,

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Speaker 1: which would have made it an even bigger day for

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. But those are the guys that we loved.

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Speaker 1: These are the guys that broke our hearts this week.

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Speaker 3: And I saw at.

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Speaker 1: One point earlier in the day you tweeted out a

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Speaker 1: picture of Nico Collins with like the caption have you

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Speaker 1: seen this man? We spent all week like hyping up

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins in the Texans pass again. Tech Dell had

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Speaker 1: himself a nice day. Nico Collins was missing an action.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe it's a reminder that, like, hey, there

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Speaker 2: are going to be growing pains with this Houston Texans offense.

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Speaker 2: I think though, moving forward, Nico Collins and Tank Dell

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Speaker 2: are wide receivers that you want on your roster and

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Speaker 2: more often than not in your starting lineup. Like there

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Speaker 2: will be down performances like this, but Nico's given us

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Speaker 2: two great games and one bad game. It's not like

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Speaker 2: the one bad game outweighs the two good ones.

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Speaker 3: So to me, I.

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Speaker 2: Think there's two wide receivers that are fantasy viable and options.

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Speaker 2: You could be like, I'm still gonna start Nico Collins

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Speaker 2: where I've been starting him. This one game isn't changing.

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Speaker 3: That for me.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, you're sticking with Nico Collins, and it

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Speaker 1: is as you mentioned, sort of the nature of wide

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Speaker 1: receivers in general that you know, unless you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a Justin Jefferson or a Stefan Diggs or somebody like that,

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Speaker 1: you're going to have the ups and downs. But the

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Speaker 1: way the Texans are throwing the football, Nico Collins is

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Speaker 1: going to get plenty of opportunity. As I mentioned, Tank

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Speaker 1: Dell still had himself a day and look Robert Woods,

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Speaker 1: you know, certainly at the end of his career, but

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Speaker 1: showing that he can get open and earn targets and

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Speaker 1: having a veteran presence like that is good for a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback like CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud. So you know, Bobby Tree is still going to

501
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Speaker 3: pop in there. Sometimes. I was big on Kendred Miller.

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Speaker 3: I know I was not alone.

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Speaker 1: A lot of us thought that Kendre Miller was going

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Speaker 1: to have a big opportunity with Jamal Williams hurt, I'm

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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamaraz still on suspension. It did not work out

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Speaker 1: at all for Kendre Miller thirty four rushing yards, he

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Speaker 1: had one catch for zero yards in the loss to

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Speaker 1: the Packers. I still believe he's going to have a

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Speaker 1: role even with Kamara coming back. But Floya, this was

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Speaker 1: not what we wanted it to be no.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is, none of the Saints came through

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Speaker 2: running back wise, at least, like Tony Jones had thirty

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Speaker 2: one rushing yards, he was a little bit more used

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Speaker 2: in the passing game. It was a dud performance for

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Speaker 2: Taysom Hill, who I thought it was going to be

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Speaker 2: a sneaky tight end start in this game. To me,

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Speaker 2: part of it is that like they all kind of disappointed.

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Speaker 2: But to me, my big takeaway from this is like,

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited for Alvin Kamara. There is going to

520
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Speaker 2: be a boltload of volume up for grabs there for him.

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Speaker 2: Neither one of these two were able to separate themselves.

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Speaker 2: I think Miller will be the secondary back moving forward.

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Speaker 2: He could still have a role here. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think none of these guys are startable. It's just Kamara.

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Speaker 1: But we just we just need to get the memo

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Speaker 1: to Jamis Winston that he's got to throw the ball

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Speaker 1: to Alvin Kamara every once in a while, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we get the yolo thing, that's cool. Get Chris o'lave involved,

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Speaker 1: but make sure you're feeding number forty one to make

530
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Speaker 1: sure he gets his targets there. We gotta stop him

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Speaker 1: trying to make AJ del the thing. Yep, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's just not happening, Like this was the opportunity. It's

533
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Speaker 1: been two weeks without Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon has

534
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Speaker 1: offered nothing in Fantasy eleven carries thirty three yards against

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Speaker 1: the Saints. Like it's just it's just not happening with AJ. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got he's got the giant quads and everybody marvels

537
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Speaker 1: at him when he's like wearing shorts during training camp.

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Speaker 3: That's about all he's offered to Fantasy Twitter so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in two games without Aaron Jones and all of

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Speaker 2: the volume going to Dylan, he is giving you ten

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Speaker 2: point six Fantasy points. And that's in a PPR league,

542
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Speaker 2: so if you're playing non PPR it might be even worse.

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Speaker 2: He is not. And this is my thing, like running backs.

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Speaker 2: Running backs don't matter until they do. And like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's easy to be like, oh, look, Leveon Bell's backup. Well,

546
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Speaker 2: yet like it was James Connor who has had a

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Speaker 2: great career. Now, sometimes I think we need to look

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Speaker 2: at who the backup is. We just always crowned the

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Speaker 2: backup as, oh, he's gonna be close to what the

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Speaker 2: starter is and like, nope.

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Speaker 1: Nope, it's just it's just not working for for aj Dillon.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we saw Patrick Taylor getting more snaps on

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Speaker 1: Sunday because even the packers are like, hey, this isn't

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Speaker 1: really working out. I went out on a lim and

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Speaker 1: I said, my bold prediction this week was that Naji

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Speaker 1: Harris was going to get one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 1: rushing yards against the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: He got like half of that.

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Speaker 1: Sixty five rushing yards for nag Jalen Warren still looks

560
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Speaker 1: like the better back.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you do. What do you do

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Speaker 3: with Najie Harris? At this point, I was with you.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was going to be the Nause Harris

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Speaker 2: week and the get right spoty in nineteen carries, and

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Speaker 2: you just didn't do a whole lot with it. Nase's

566
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Speaker 2: one of those, a lot like Kyle Pitt's too good

567
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 2: to drop, not a must start option, but the volume

568
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: that goes his way is probably too enticing for you

569
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Speaker 2: to pull from your lineup. I think he's kind of

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Speaker 2: just like you're stuck with him.

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Speaker 3: At this point.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a Lowland RB two, but probably more

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Speaker 1: of an RB three at this point, and it's just

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Speaker 1: hard to decide what to do with him on a

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Speaker 1: weekly basis. That'll do it for this edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show. Be sure to check out tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: show for all of our top waiver wire targets. Plus

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Speaker 1: we're hitting up the fan mail bag to answer all

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Speaker 1: your questions. Stay happy, safe and healthy, do good and

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Speaker 1: live well well, we'll talk to you again real soon.

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