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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast arrives to work every day

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Speaker 1: in a break struck. Welcome to another edition of The

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Speaker 1: Round the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. I'm

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Speaker 1: joining the room that is just overflowing with heroes. Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Hand, Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Come on missing someone hand? Some people get their own introduction.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you if you liked this nickname,

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Speaker 1: but it's the one that I've heard since I've been

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Speaker 1: at this company. The face, I've never heard that before.

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Speaker 1: So you tweeted that out before. I've never heard it.

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Speaker 1: The face of NFL Network, Rich Eisen Back in the

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Speaker 1: studio that you built by hand. You know what, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking around this studio. This this room looks absolutely nothing

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Speaker 1: like not at all I used to do with the podcast.

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Speaker 1: And never could I have imagined there'd be lights, there's

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Speaker 1: actual cameras. Um, you know what it was was just

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Speaker 1: a table and um crap against the wall. That was it.

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Speaker 1: Now this is like a legit room. This is great.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about officially titling the studio studio?

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Speaker 1: You know what, Damnaschek was the one who put the

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Speaker 1: crap against the wall. There was like this big Troy

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Speaker 1: Paula Malu like fat head cut out. Remember up against

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Speaker 1: the wall? You got this built up here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's be real, Damna check is not getting a podcast

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Speaker 1: studio belt. I understand. Let's let's be real. Let's be real.

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Speaker 1: I got nothing built. Um. What it was was me, um,

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what else I can do other

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Speaker 1: than NFL total access around these parts and just do

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Speaker 1: some other things outside of just the same show I

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Speaker 1: would do every day. UM. And I decided to ask

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Speaker 1: in my contract renegotiation the ability to do a podcast. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Steve Bornstein, who was in charge of this place back then, UM,

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Speaker 1: that's about it was about. Yeah, probably so UM. You know, uh,

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Speaker 1: I I've known Steve forever. He was the one who

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Speaker 1: And I'm like okay. So I did that, and then

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Speaker 1: is no concept of of of figuring out what it

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Speaker 1: because they needed cheap programming. I said, I would do

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Speaker 1: opposed to keep Yeah. So we we then did. We

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Speaker 1: And then Thursday Night Football came to be at the

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Speaker 1: in this game about three Well, there was one dry

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Speaker 1: as a Browns I'm allowed to. I'm allowed to, you

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Speaker 1: said going into the game, you had a terrible psychic

431
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Speaker 1: energy about you. Call us to trust that are gonna

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Speaker 1: lose this. I did had no confidence in them winning,

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm not We don't.

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Speaker 1: You guys dealt with a lot more in the past

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Speaker 1: week and it continues. I'm not gonna bemoan the Browns

436
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Speaker 1: but I came out of it with a fair amount

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Speaker 1: of concern. And you look at the fact that they

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Speaker 1: have a short week to play the Rams, they then

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Speaker 1: play the Ravens on the road where they've they're about

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Speaker 1: one in twenty and since next five opponents are all

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Speaker 1: two and oh right, the next opponents right, Because there

442
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Speaker 1: was in in August, we we threw around some scenarios

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Speaker 1: that could be thorny for teams, and I mentioned the

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Speaker 1: Browns on the show starting one in five. And it

445
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Speaker 1: wasn't just me trying to be wildly pessimistic. It is

446
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Speaker 1: if there is a roadmap for that to happen because

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Speaker 1: of who they're playing, and because I look at Cleveland

448
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Speaker 1: and it just felt out before that Odell Beckham play,

449
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Speaker 1: they they were out of sync. And even last year's

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield inside that offense experience had a little more

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Speaker 1: daring do and some trickery, and to me just I

452
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Speaker 1: thought he was playing outside of his head and I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. Think Greg Williams, maybe he

454
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Speaker 1: knows him better. Baker Mayfield was legit confused on some

455
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Speaker 1: of those I know that, and again he still he

456
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Speaker 1: still was in his second year. You need n't play

457
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Speaker 1: a full year last year, Mark and you know and

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Speaker 1: and uh, what I would take out of that last

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Speaker 1: night is I a few things I don't buy into.

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Speaker 1: The whole should beat anybody? Okay, that whole business of

461
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: Lamar did it against the crappy Dolphins. Well, you know what, No,

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Speaker 1: you still have to when Hollywood Brown has two steps,

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Speaker 1: put it on him. When you do have somebody who's

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Speaker 1: got mark Ingram hit the whole. You do have to

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Speaker 1: hold onto the football. You do have to do the

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Speaker 1: right things. You have to have the killer instinct as well.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that I was totally mystified about with

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Speaker 1: the Browns last night, with all the good things that

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Speaker 1: we saw, I thought the line was vastly improved. I

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Speaker 1: thought the defense was just lights out. I thought Myles

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Speaker 1: Garrett that is on the resume week two of the

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Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen Defensive Player of the Year on Monday

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Speaker 1: Night football grown ass man becoming a bigger grown ass man.

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Speaker 1: I loved it. I thought it was terrific. Now my

475
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: concern was what's going on with Freddie Kitchens Week one?

476
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Speaker 1: An absurd number of penalties and dumb penalties. They clean

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Speaker 1: that up, They clean that up, which is all they

478
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Speaker 1: need to do to win, because their talent is far

479
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: superior to the Jets, especially when you, as you call

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Speaker 1: them undermanned. I I didn't miss that moniker that you

481
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Speaker 1: mentioned earlier. But before the half, you're up thirteen to three.

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Speaker 1: It's third and tenor in your own forty. They called

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Speaker 1: time out. They come out and they run a running

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Speaker 1: play and then go ahead and try and get the

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Speaker 1: Jets to call a time out and trick them into

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Speaker 1: calling time out, and burned the time out, burn of

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Speaker 1: time all the way down to a minute five, And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, where's the Freddie Kitchens two thousand eighteen, Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield daring do I understand that the defense was confusing, whatever,

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Speaker 1: but go hurry up. Let's go and and and and

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Speaker 1: nail and nail the Jets right through the heart right

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Speaker 1: before send them into halftime down twenty three. Instead, they

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Speaker 1: punt and Gaze made the mistake of from the ten

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Speaker 1: yard line with Luke Falk. Let's throw one over the middle.

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Speaker 1: And even if I forget, but it's Bell whoever, and

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Speaker 1: I don't even know the name. He drops the ball,

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Speaker 1: which gives Freddie Kitchens a free pass with the one

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Speaker 1: time out he didn't have left to call. He had

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Speaker 1: two left, not three. So then he gets the ball

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Speaker 1: back and Kitchens gets three out of it when he

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Speaker 1: deserves zero out of it. And why would Adam Gaze think,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna try and get some points

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Speaker 1: on the board with Luke Falk you when the Jets

504
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: were setting the record last night for most second and

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Speaker 1: twenty three's from inside their own five yard line because

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Speaker 1: of the million holding penalty, you mean, call right now

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Speaker 1: a little bit until it was concerned about that, Like,

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Speaker 1: what's like is Freddy focus? I think there was whispers

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Speaker 1: Freddie and Todd munkin the o C who doesn't call plays,

510
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Speaker 1: that there was some abrasive scenario between them, which you know,

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00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: you want to just dismiss until it becomes a thing,

512
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: and it's not a thing at this point. But there

513
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: were other whispers that Freddy Kitchens was not the guy

514
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Speaker 1: that set the offense on fire last year. They haven't,

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Speaker 1: they haven't been hasn't think in the first two weeks.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Baker Mayfield's come out and it's two

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00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: weeks now and come out and been as you know,

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Speaker 1: aggressive has had in many big throws. He's had the

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00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: big time throws, but he also has four interceptions, He's

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00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: taken eight sacks. He's not as decisive. It hasn't been

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Speaker 1: two great weeks for him. Maybe it is the Greg

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Speaker 1: Williams factor, but you have to feel good that the defense,

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Speaker 1: which I think can save their floor in terms of

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00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: making it so that the offense doesn't need to be

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00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: they showed up. Then again, they're playing a Jets team,

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Speaker 1: who you know, maybe even if Sam Donald was there,

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Speaker 1: we would be talking about they're one of the worst

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Speaker 1: teams in the league. I think that's one of the

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Speaker 1: things I'm not saying. You you want Sam Donald there,

530
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Speaker 1: of of course you do, but there's a scenario here

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Speaker 1: where his absence is covering up some other issues that

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Speaker 1: they have. Their offensive line has been a disaster through

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Speaker 1: two weeks, and they're just a little a little inconsistent

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Speaker 1: on it. Also, that's same Brown's defense, and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: the entire game, but they got worked over by the

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Speaker 1: Titans for an eighteen twenty minute chunk of that game

537
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Speaker 1: where they were tired out, and it was the offense too.

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Speaker 1: But I I would say Cleveland right now is not

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Speaker 1: even close to looking like a playoff team. They look

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00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: like they have some issues to work out despite known talent.

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Speaker 1: Well they have, and they have a very difficult schedule

542
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: coming up, but so does the rest of the National

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Speaker 1: Football May I close this out with one yes, crazy

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Speaker 1: asked Hinfoil had suggestion for the New York Jets. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm here, Okay, I want to just give a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a history lesson to the younger audience of

547
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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast. Okay, um, Way before the

548
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: Patriots were the Patriots as we currently know them, the

549
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: Jets and the Dolphins had the most bad blooded rivalry

550
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: in the American Football Conference Eastern Division, hands down. The

551
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: whole bit. The eighties were all about Don Shula wedding

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Speaker 1: the field for the a f C championship game because

553
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Speaker 1: Freeman McNeil was coming into town after they let the

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Speaker 1: top that they let it just rain, no tarp on

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Speaker 1: the field, the old Orange Bowl, and a J. Dewey

556
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Speaker 1: with three picks. It's terrible. So all of that, the

557
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: fake Spike Dan Marino being drafted after Kenn o'bron parton

558
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Speaker 1: me O'Brien drafted before, just terrible. What the Dolphins are

559
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: doing right now, what the Dolphins are doing right now,

560
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: this naked tank job that is going on in the

561
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Speaker 1: NFL right now, because we have to call it what

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Speaker 1: it is. It is beyond the pale, because they're amassing

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Speaker 1: all these picks. And Chris Greer even said it today

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Speaker 1: when he spoke today, that they can have any player

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Speaker 1: they want in the draft, and we know which player

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Speaker 1: they want in the draft. It's I heard about this

567
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Speaker 1: at the draft in Dallas, three months after TWA was

568
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Speaker 1: put in the game by Nick Saban out of the

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Speaker 1: blue to beat Georgia in overtime. I heard it at

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Speaker 1: that draft in Dallas. The Dolphins want to We all

571
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Speaker 1: know that's what they want. The Jets should tell Sam

572
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Speaker 1: stay home, Sam, Sam, stay home because we're concerned about

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Speaker 1: your spleen. Whatever it's we gotta be. We're taking the

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Speaker 1: long view on Sam Spleen, whatever, whatever, whatever they want

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Speaker 1: to concoct. And the Jets should tank worse. They should

576
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Speaker 1: when the Dolphins come into town, play worse, tank worse,

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Speaker 1: finish first overall, and come to the Dolphins say you

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00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: want to ah too bad. You can't have him. Say

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Speaker 1: to the rest of the NFL, hey who wants to

580
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: and about ten teams will raise their hands and hand

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Speaker 1: Joe Douglas a million picks, and Chris Greer could sit

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Speaker 1: there with all of his picks and take Herbert from Oregon,

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Speaker 1: which we know that now they don't cover him, and

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Speaker 1: whoever else they want. And tough, tough dolphins. We tank harder, harder,

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00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: screw you over for a j Dewey and the fake spike.

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00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: It's bitter, it's awesome, it'll it's nuts. It won't happen,

587
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: nor should it. But it's a great idea that I

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00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: want to bring to his many deer gates. The extra

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00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: spiteful nature of not doing the trade I thought you

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00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: were going towards. The Dolphins will be so desperate that

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00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: they'll pull a dick Ricky Williams and give the Jets.

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00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You don't know what you said. Sam's

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00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: savior right now. You don't get it. Your tank was

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00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: for nothing, and they have it within their power because

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00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: they the Dolphins twice, the Dolphins. You could make sure

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00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: that two wins and they go one. You got it,

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00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: you got the single. It's in their hands. They could

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00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: do it. If you thought Adam Gaze's body language is bad.

599
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: Now he will collapse within himself. He will not make

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Speaker 1: it to week. My problem, I'm telling Buffalo Bills is

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Speaker 1: the only organization and the division with an adult in

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Speaker 1: the room. If I ever own a boat, though, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be calling it naked tank job, naked float around

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Speaker 1: on the season. By the way, this is like I

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00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: saw that in cinemax. By the way, Shannon Tweed was

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00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: great tank All right, So rich, do you want to

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Speaker 1: sit in on news? How much? How much time? I got? No? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got ten more minutes? All right, it's time flies

609
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: when you're giving tinfoil having theories. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'll survive, but I like the theory. Of course. It

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Speaker 1: makes look. Sam's got to have playing time. Gaze has

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Speaker 1: got to have a shot. I totally get it. But

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Speaker 1: what the Dolphins are doing, somebody's gotta take, somebody's gotta take.

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Speaker 1: You've got to prevent it. The one person, one team

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00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: that can prevent it is a team that's already owing

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Speaker 1: to that's tanking without really even knowing it. Right now,

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00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: the mono is doing the tank job for you for

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Speaker 1: at least another three weeks. He'll come back, He'll be

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Speaker 1: a shell of himself. It'll take two more weeks. They

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Speaker 1: can try as hard as they want. They'll be Owen

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Speaker 1: six oh and seven because they play the Patriots twice

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Speaker 1: in weeks three weeks seven. That's two losses by the

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Speaker 1: time the Dolphins come to town. Here's what you do.

624
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: Just lay down, literally lay down. There's a dark course

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00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: there in Carolina being run by a hedge fund manager

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Speaker 1: and Kyle allen Thirt, and it will be strange. The

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00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: highlights will be like, why is everybody knocked down? Like

628
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: bowling pins? Is Josh Rosen runs untouched for eighty five yards? Like?

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Speaker 1: It'll be what the hell? Well, you need to keep

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00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: the theory? Who to announce it here? But then you're

631
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to keep down? Yeah, well why the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: are doing it in playing some element of surprise? Though,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know what rich Everything you're saying makes

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00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: sense and it's interesting and I like it, but I

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Speaker 1: also still can't believe it is September seventeen and this

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00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: is what we're talking about with it. Let's do some news.

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Speaker 1: What have that happened to Gary Cooper? The strong silent

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00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: time that was an American We'll get to that in

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Speaker 1: a minute, a few minutes, But let's start with the

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Speaker 1: rundown of these injuries. Since we last spoke to you

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, we now know that Drew Brees is going

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Speaker 1: to have surgery on his torn ligament in his right thumb.

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Speaker 1: Rap Sheet reports that the time frame for recoveries approximately

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Speaker 1: six weeks. Um sean um Sean Payton has to now

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Speaker 1: move forward west with Teddy Bridgewater, who has been, let's say,

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Speaker 1: underwhelming in his limited time behind center. But now they're

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Speaker 1: calling on Teddy to keep the ship afloat until Drew

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Speaker 1: can come back. I think anybody who's ever met or

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Speaker 1: spent time around Teddy Bridgewater wants him to succeed. But

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Speaker 1: nothing we've seen from him in real game action since

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Speaker 1: his catastrophic injury would give you confidence that he's going

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Speaker 1: to succeed. And last week performance against the Rams, in

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Speaker 1: which he got very little help from his running game

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Speaker 1: or his receivers, the game was just too fast for him.

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Speaker 1: So with a week of prep does that go away?

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Speaker 1: But if I'm a Sames fan, that scares me, and

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Speaker 1: I'm still gonna wander in the back of my mind,

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Speaker 1: should Taysom Hill be quarterback in this team? I would

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Speaker 1: like to say something you hit on the name that

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Speaker 1: nobody's talking enough about. If you don't think Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: sitting back here and saying, what do I have here

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Speaker 1: at my disposal that I can use in the next

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Speaker 1: six weeks? If you if you think the Ravens can

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Speaker 1: suddenly turn on a dime last year and change their

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Speaker 1: offense from Flacco to Lamar Jackson so successfully, and Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton is the guy who can probably do that within

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Speaker 1: literally five minutes. On the back of a cocktail napkin.

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Speaker 1: I think Taysom Hill is gonna way more snaps than

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Speaker 1: anybody thinks. And I would look for who is the

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Speaker 1: third string? Do they have a third string? Just resigned

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Speaker 1: J T. Barrett today? Right? That was the sign, Like

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Speaker 1: I was like, let's see if they sign a third

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Speaker 1: QB because and that's and this is Sean Payton just

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Speaker 1: because he's Sean Payton. I mean, you think, Okay, your

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Speaker 1: your your goat has a thumb injury that you know

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Speaker 1: is serious enough he can't grip the ball, so you're

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Speaker 1: just gonna take the backup, put him out there and

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Speaker 1: your third stringer, let's make him a slot receiver. I

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Speaker 1: mean who does that sort of stuff, Somebody who's got

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Speaker 1: the right amount of crazy like Sean Payton. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: I want to see it's gonna be. We're about to

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Speaker 1: to the point where I'm thinking of picking him up

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Speaker 1: in fantasy. I'm sorry, Don't you think that the point

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Speaker 1: is to get a difference maker, not a guy who's average.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think he's going to see a ton more

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Speaker 1: snaps out there in the perfect time to uncork it

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Speaker 1: is in Seattle first week. Nobody's thinking fantasy player though.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But you can all those other guys

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Speaker 1: you mentioned or even and you can pick any of

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Speaker 1: them up off the waiver. Witers stopping him from doing it,

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Speaker 1: No one stopping him from doing it. He invested a

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Speaker 1: third round pick in Teddy Bridgewater, then he signed him

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Speaker 1: for seven and a half million dollars. He's invested a

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Speaker 1: lot of practice time. I don't think Teddy Bridgewaters looked comfortable.

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Speaker 1: He needs to pull the trigger a little faster when

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Speaker 1: he's buying center. But Sean Payton's the offensive genius. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing more. Just like Bill Belichick loved going eleven and

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Speaker 1: five with Matt Castle more than practically anything he's probably

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Speaker 1: ever done. Sean Payton wants to show that he can

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Speaker 1: run this offense and that they can light people up.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's with Teddy, whether it's with Tayston Hill. You're right,

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Speaker 1: it'll probably be some combination of the two. But right

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Speaker 1: now he believes Teddy Bridgewater is his best option. But

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Speaker 1: at this point, because you're running on a time with Breeze,

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Speaker 1: no matter what I mean, they are in full blown

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Speaker 1: hunt for the franchise quarterback of the future. I know

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Speaker 1: you got to look at both these guys and find

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Speaker 1: out what you have. You got Steve Young, that's what

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Speaker 1: they keep calling on. I think Taysom Hill's is what

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Speaker 1: he's thinking. I guess by the way of Famer, if

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Speaker 1: he's that good, he should be playing what Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking is you have to You can't be looking

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Speaker 1: at Teddy Bridgewater is the plug in answer without challenging

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Speaker 1: him this season with Taysom Hill and then challenging with

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Speaker 1: every other option you can and if Breeze goes down, well,

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Speaker 1: you guys all have your laptops that I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you have the ability to call it up like this,

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Speaker 1: But how many how many snaps does Taysom Hill get

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Speaker 1: with Breeze. It feels like it's five six a game

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Speaker 1: right with Breeze with the goat where they split number

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Speaker 1: nine out wide right and sometimes they'll do it in

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Speaker 1: the red zone and you're like, with that, So you

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Speaker 1: don't think he'll double that with Teddy Bridgewater now and

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Speaker 1: just and and and and come as close as they've

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Speaker 1: ever seen to a two quarterback offense. I could see

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Speaker 1: the play snaps last week. I could see he rescues

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Speaker 1: him as a tight end or slot receiver when he's

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Speaker 1: your backup quarterback. Well that's why they signed J. T. Barrett.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, like it might make sense that to

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Speaker 1: do that that when you're already on your backup. We

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Speaker 1: saw last night with the Jets. I mean they almost

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Speaker 1: went to didn't I did? You? Were you the one

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Speaker 1: who tweeted out like yeah, I was curious, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, you know these assaulters confirmed it

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Speaker 1: was Browning test to Lucas or brook Penning Penning. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's let's give one star where prepare for the opponent,

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Speaker 1: Where Sean preparing. It's gonna think he was playing with

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Speaker 1: a bunch of backups and and and against backups. Well

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Speaker 1: that's fair, but I mean but not three starts? Are four? No,

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Speaker 1: but just the offensive line and that I think you're

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Speaker 1: at thirty six snap slash right, how many this year?

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Speaker 1: Already twenty something? We're already seeing a massive uptick, right,

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Speaker 1: sandwiches and other news. Ben Roethlisberger yes out for the year.

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Speaker 1: That elbow injury UM that he suffered was serious enough

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Speaker 1: that it's going to require surgery. Here was Big Ben's statement,

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Speaker 1: this is shocking and heartbreaking for me to miss this

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Speaker 1: much of a season and feel like I'm letting down

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Speaker 1: so many people. I can only trust God's plan, but

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Speaker 1: I am lely determined to battle through the challenge and

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Speaker 1: come back stronger than ever next year. Crushing blow Mark

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers, who um are O and two. And

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Speaker 1: this is a season that had Super Bowl expectations And

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Speaker 1: now you turn it over to Mason Rudolph And I

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Speaker 1: saw your twitter, Mark, and I thought the same thing

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Speaker 1: watching this game that he looks like he can play

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Rudol would be interesting to see give

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Speaker 1: him a full week and see if he could sling

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Speaker 1: a little bit, because he seemed under control and and

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Speaker 1: he made some nice throws, but please, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is a big drop off from the last season's passing leader.

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Speaker 1: It is. I don't know if last year, even last

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Speaker 1: year's Big Ben was the big bend that we've grown

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Speaker 1: accustomed to in general. It is interesting because Chris Mortenson

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Speaker 1: reached right out to Jake Delone when he found out

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Speaker 1: about this injury, and it was alone that went and

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Speaker 1: had very similar Tommy john S surgery and came back

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Speaker 1: the next year, went twelve and four and had one

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Speaker 1: of his better years. So it's not the end of

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Speaker 1: Big Ben. And the other problem is Big Ben's contract

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Speaker 1: makes it utterly impossible to part with him next year

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Speaker 1: from a cap and money standpoints. So I don't I

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Speaker 1: think he's still in the in the in the in

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Speaker 1: the docket for next season. But Mason Rudolf. To me,

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Speaker 1: these things happen fast. And if Rudolph were to have

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Speaker 1: one of those seasons where he captures the imagination of

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Speaker 1: the Steelers fan base and saves what looks like they're

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Speaker 1: a very good team still in their defense, if they

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Speaker 1: can get a little bit more on track, they've got right.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second. I mean, Mason

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Speaker 1: Rudolph's in one of those interesting backup quarterback positions where

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Speaker 1: you've got the it's kind of like any given Sunday

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Speaker 1: scenario where you've got what's his name, the aging guy

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Speaker 1: on a quad and you've got you know, we've got

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Speaker 1: the new guy coming. And I kind of liked Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gotta They've tried to find backups to

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Speaker 1: Big Bend for a while and they've all been Jabronis.

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Speaker 1: This guy is a little different, and I think the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff likes him a lot. Was it was it

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Speaker 1: a guy named Mike Jabroni, Mike Jabrowni. They had ted

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Speaker 1: jib Brownie not talking about the left, which wasn't a fine.

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Speaker 1: Big Ben's successful. They've been drafting guys as yes, and

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Speaker 1: it's exciting and we'll see how it goes. A couple

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Speaker 1: of things. One, uh, shameless self promotion the grind on

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Speaker 1: epics tomorrow night. Um, there's two, there's two, Yes, there's two. Features.

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Speaker 1: One is Charles Woodson with the Patriots and Dolphins, and

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Speaker 1: Charles caught up with Brady and did ask him about

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Speaker 1: the the tuck rule. So number one, that's number one.

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Speaker 1: Number two it was also um Bettis was in Pittsburgh, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the stadium when Ben went through all this,

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Speaker 1: and he did meet up with Juju Smith Schuster and

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Speaker 1: its streamed to meet when he was asking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: his new role. It seems it's gonna he's not fully

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Speaker 1: adjusted as to being quote unquote the man then number

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Speaker 1: one guy. It takes a lot, especially when everybody else

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Speaker 1: is dropping the football left and right. Dante Montcrief is

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Speaker 1: just suddenly like Edward Stonehan's um and so I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: curious to see if Mason Rudolph will have the ability

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Speaker 1: to move the offense. He definitely did a better job

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Speaker 1: than Ben did in the first six quarters and just

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Speaker 1: his two quarters in there, Judy smith Schuster had a

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Speaker 1: sign of life that you know, well, Ben Ben once

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Speaker 1: an offense sort of like what Aaron Rodgers used to have,

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Speaker 1: the isolation routes where the receivers have to win one

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Speaker 1: on one and he's playing from empty spread formations. They

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Speaker 1: bring in Mason Rudolph and they're running sort of a

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Speaker 1: more normal NFL offense where the receivers don't have to

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Speaker 1: win one on one every route. So we'll see what

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Speaker 1: happens Jimmy G's and the Diners are his first up.

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Speaker 1: And then number two is we all know Pittsburgh Steeler

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Speaker 1: fans very well. I mean I know a bunch of

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Speaker 1: Obviously Damnishek is one of them. Do you and unlikable crowd? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's just my opinion. Okay, understood, But do you know

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Speaker 1: of any one's Pittsburgh stewdar fan one. I just want

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Speaker 1: the name of one who has been comforted by the

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Speaker 1: news that Jake Dilone came back. Well from this, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, is there one? Let's see, he came back

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Speaker 1: and then got the worst contracts. Love Jake, but is

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Speaker 1: there a single I mean, Rudolph. Rudolph's only a second year,

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Speaker 1: so if he plays well, that's a good. Problem was

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Speaker 1: I was surprised if people thought, oh this is this

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Speaker 1: is the end of Ben Roethberg. No, he just signed

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Speaker 1: a huge contract, no reason. Why more. Let me call Jake.

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Speaker 1: Jake had that same injury stealer fans. Don't worry Jake

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Speaker 1: came back. He'll be carried by his defense in his

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Speaker 1: running game to the playoffs, and then he'll throw four

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Speaker 1: interceptions against because maybe worse you to look at Chris

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Speaker 1: Mortonson's Twitter feed from last night during Monday Night football.

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Speaker 1: Just go back and look at it. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a half scenario, but I think

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Speaker 1: someone intered. Someone interpreted there were three rats, and I

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Speaker 1: was thinking they're the rats jumping off the Dolphins ship.

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Speaker 1: That was all right, Well, let's get to that. Um

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Speaker 1: Dolphins they draft to make a Fitzpatrick and the two

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Speaker 1: thousand eighteen Yeah, would jumping in the organic fish tank? Uh?

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Speaker 1: They draft Patrick first round two thousand eighteen. He expresses,

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Speaker 1: you know, displeasure with the organic fish tank. He says,

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Speaker 1: I want out. And the Steelers, who aren't looking to

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Speaker 1: throw in the towel on the season just because Ben's out,

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Speaker 1: make a trade. Uh? They trade? Yeah, who trades twenty

850
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: two year old defensive bout you choose in the first

851
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: a year later? Who does that? It doesn't matter if

852
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: he wants out. We're talking about and Chris carews like, hey,

853
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: we told him we want you here. Man, coach wants

854
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: you here, the owner who wants you here. Then the

855
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: twenty two year old stays. But let's let's hear it

856
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: from I mean, what are you talking about here? Is

857
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: everyone getting get out of jail free card because they

858
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: asked for let's let's hear from the GM with Minka.

859
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: Just one of those things. Um. You know, the player

860
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: expressed that, you know, maybe time for him to change,

861
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: and so we tried to make your work myself. Brian

862
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: Steve had multiple conversations with him about saying we wanted

863
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: them here. I mean it was a core piece and

864
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: one another something like this before the kid just felt

865
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: it was time for him to move. And we told

866
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: what the value was, told teams and we had multiple offers.

867
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: Of course you did. He's year old, stuffs one best

868
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: for the organization. He won he won the Best Defensive

869
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: Back in College award like eighteen months ago. He's a

870
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: guys you hold onto. Pardon me, I'm sorry. Lead to

871
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: the guys you hold onto. You don't trade these guys.

872
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: And here's here's a wake up call for the Dolphins

873
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: and Dolphins fans. Chris Greer Um, who I've never met

874
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: and I have heard nothing but the most respectful things about.

875
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: I just have to say this. He could be uh

876
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: George Young and times ten like to the tenth degree,

877
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: like name the some of the greatest grocery shoppers and

878
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: Drafters in the history of the NFL. He could be

879
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: that to the tenth degree. You draft all these guys

880
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: with all these picks next year, certainly when you don't

881
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: get to it, because the Jets are gonna do what

882
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: I say. But even with two of they can go

883
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: Owen sixteen with two of the first year, you still

884
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: have to when you hit the win it now button.

885
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: Look at the Clippers. They would never have gotten Kauai

886
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: and Paul George if they already didn't have the group here.

887
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: Look at the Browns, your Browns who are out of purgatory.

888
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: They still got enough people together on defense that when

889
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: John Dorsey started turning all of these picks mostly on

890
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: offense that they had into human beings on offense. There

891
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: you can win the Dolphins even with you don't have

892
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: a left tackle, you don't have a defensive back like

893
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: Minke of Fitzpatrick. You hold onto these people. I never

894
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: thought i'd see a team voluntarily turn itself into an

895
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: expansion organization like this, and it's pathetic. Even from a

896
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: competitive spirit angle, you can't win. You can't compete on

897
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: a on a level playing field, and there is no

898
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: more level playing field in pro sports than the borderline

899
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: socialist structure or of the NFL, where you get carried

900
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: along no matter what happens. Can't compete on that level,

901
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: So they're stripping it down to the lowest level to

902
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 1: give themselves an advantage in the draft. And it takes

903
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: no special insight or acumen to strip your team down.

904
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: It just doesn't. It takes a patient owner and extraordinarily

905
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: uh downtrodden fan base bordering on apathy, and a hierarchy

906
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: of the sport willing to look the other way or

907
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: perhaps more accurately, throw their hands up because they have

908
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: no solution while the competitive integrity is stained for the

909
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: whole thing. It's just to me, the competitive spirit of sports.

910
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: You're saying, I quit, I don't want to compete in

911
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: this setting. Okay. I think they looked at though. I

912
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: think they looked at Part of it was they looked

913
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: at the Steelers. They see an O and two team

914
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: that's starting Mason Rudolph, and they think, we got Minka Fitzpatrick.

915
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: We've seen him. You're talking, this is a guy we keep.

916
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: You're right, it's crazy that they trade him in Tonto,

917
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: because you're just gonna have to replace them. These are

918
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: guys in rookie contract that said Minka Fitzpatrick has played

919
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: a thousand snaps in the NFL. Anyone that says this

920
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: guy is a future superstar is just basing it off

921
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: of a draft profile. They didn't they haven't watched all

922
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: of his snaps. He's been fine. He hasn't make graded

923
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: out number one one amongst slot corners on PFF last year.

924
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: Like he's he's had up, he sat downs, he looks fine.

925
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: My point is, I think they looked at the Steelers

926
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: and they thought, could this be a top five pick?

927
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: If there's a chance that it is, I guess we're

928
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: just So what's the narrative here? Before I tap out?

929
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: If you don't know, um, what is the narrative here?

930
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: Is the narrative that Brian Flores was bringing to do

931
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: your job defense to South Florida and making him uh

932
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: perform in a scheme that wasn't to his That's what

933
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: satisfaction or the best of his ability, that they were

934
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: making him cover tight ends and it was something that

935
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: he was complaining, was upset that he was playing strong. Okay,

936
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: So so the question, so the questions are don't we

937
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: don't we always and and rightfully so lionized the coaches

938
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: who change their scheme to fit the people that they have, right, Like,

939
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: that's what we say is the mark of an excellent coach,

940
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: that we will change what we do to fit what

941
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: our players do. We still have a philosophy, but we're

942
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 1: we're we're we're flexible. So what does that say about

943
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: Brian Flores that he's not going to be told what's

944
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: best for the team by his his second year player.

945
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: They didn't they in his mind, he was the best

946
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: option to play that position because they don't have anyone

947
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: to play that position, but they have someone to play

948
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: slot cornerback. I'm not going to question Brian Flores is

949
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: sort of defensive acumen, what's going to make his team

950
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: the best? The question is like, why why do you

951
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: listen to that twenty two year old and just trade

952
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: him because he's unhappy? Like it's so bizarre, And I

953
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: understand the guys who want to be here. I don't

954
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: want him here anymore. But then let's how do we

955
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: not make this work? Right? So let me ask you guys.

956
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: It's an interesting show of faith by the Steelers, by

957
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: the way, in Mason Rudolph and the team that they have,

958
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: they should of course defense, it's missing only what to me,

959
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: And this is why I think Mayock and Gruden went

960
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: and got Antonio Brown, or Gruden got Antonio Brown and

961
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: Mayok didn't. So over my dead body, um that that

962
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: when you need to evaluate a quarterback, as I think

963
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: Gruden still wanted to do with Derek Carr or still

964
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 1: does even because because he's just he's he's constantly trying

965
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: to change quarterbacks or kick tires on it. To evaluate

966
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: that quarterback, you have to give that player protection. You

967
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: have to give that player weaponry. You have to give

968
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: that player the best ability to win with your offense

969
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: because your defense is strong and quarterback. So the Steelers

970
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: just I mean right, the Steelers just added make of Fitzpatrick.

971
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: They see what their issues are in week two. They

972
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: can see over the steering wheel. Okay, we're gonna have

973
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: to get somebody at this position. They're not gonna be

974
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: as talented or maybe even as young. Is this guy

975
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: if we draft him next year in the first round,

976
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: get him. Let's do it now, and let's evaluate Mason

977
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: Rudolph right now. And of course Tomlin's one of those

978
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: defensive coaches that's his forte is the second. Let's see it.

979
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: I can do it. That's the thing. Like, let's see

980
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers not ruin a highly drafted defensive back. Let's

981
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: see Mike Tomlin have a top ten defense in the

982
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: last seven or eight years. Hasn't happened once, and you

983
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: look at the talent that they have. And I think

984
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: that's one of the issues with Ben being out is

985
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: a little more focus is going to be on Mike

986
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: Tomlin and that's been a big problem in the first defense.

987
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: Let's let's see if he can have a different speaking defense.

988
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this last one for for

989
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: me if you don't mind, because I do have to run,

990
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: but I really enjoyed this chat here. Um, do you

991
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: think we're seeing with the Dolphins? There's two choices. I

992
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: don't think there's any gray area. Do you think we're

993
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: seeing the coach Norman Dale moment where the fans are

994
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: howling for his head and he's waving his game plan

995
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: in the satchel at them. This is this is what

996
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: I know, and it may be very unpopular right now,

997
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: but I got this. Do you think that's what the

998
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: Dolphins are doing right now? Or they went to Stephen

999
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Ross or Stephen Ross even went to them in his

1000
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: front office and said, uh, to A, we gotta get him.

1001
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna get him. Whatever you need to do to

1002
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: get him. I don't care how much you raise it

1003
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: down to the ground. And I trust you, Chris Greer,

1004
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: to put players into these spots. And it's just gonna

1005
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: be an unmitigated long slog of a disaster. It's only

1006
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: there's really I don't think there's any gray area here

1007
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: because this sort of stuff doesn't wind up with a

1008
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: six and ten, eight and eight. And we'll see how

1009
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: it goes three four years down the road with the

1010
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: GM and coach like it's one of the two where

1011
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna work out and Mile and High wins at all,

1012
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: or or Hickory wins at all, or we're gonna see

1013
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: something like your expert opinions, you guys seeing a ton

1014
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: of football, what do you think? My one thing is

1015
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: that I think I I am open minded to the

1016
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: idea of what they've done to make ensure they get

1017
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: the number one pick and ensure they don't get the

1018
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: third pick and someone else gets the best quarterback and

1019
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: they get up they get the second helpings and they

1020
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: continue to win four or five games and be the

1021
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: milk toast Dolphins that we've known all along. I feel

1022
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: like when you're allowing players to voice their displeasure and

1023
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: then be traded no matter what they say, it's not

1024
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: a precedent, that is the precedent. It just happened. And

1025
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: when you give up a left tackle who Daniel Jeremiah

1026
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: feels is a star left tackle, that's a very tough

1027
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: position to replace. Has the cut down gone too deep?

1028
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: Couldn't you have already gotten this quarterback with where you

1029
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: were a couple of weeks ago. Did you need to

1030
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: also give up? I think it canceled the top down. Yeah,

1031
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: to answer your question, I think it came from the

1032
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: top down in January and Chris Carreer, who by the way,

1033
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: drafted who is there. That's is part of the confusing

1034
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: messaging of the entire Dolphin season. Chris Gray was there.

1035
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: I know he wasn't the top guy. He was the

1036
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: guy underneath Tannon bomb, but he was supposedly was pretty

1037
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 1: integral and drafting Menko Fitzpatrick and Ton So I think

1038
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: they presented this vision to try to get out of

1039
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: seven and nine and they're trying. Didn't you ensure the

1040
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: first pick though before? I think this is an enormous

1041
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: leap of faith that this is all gonna work out,

1042
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: and I think it has the potential to cripple a

1043
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: once proud organization for a decade and permanently hurt the brand.

1044
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: I think this way too much. Chack A look of

1045
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: the Raiders. They had three first round picks Mayok, who

1046
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: is as great a talent evaluator as there is. I

1047
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: don't care everyone's like Cleveland Farrell? Why him and not

1048
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 1: anyone else? Because if Mayok was on NFL Network talking

1049
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: about Cleveland Farrell and the Open for months, then all

1050
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: the fan bases that would think Mayock was crazy for

1051
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: taking Cleveland Farrell would be complaining to their team's general

1052
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: managers why didn't you listen to Mayok? Okay, So let's

1053
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: just say Mayok is as good as they come. He

1054
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: turned three first round picks into Farrell, Abram, and Jacobs.

1055
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: Those guys look like they are a great a material already,

1056
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: and unfortunately about Abram that he's out. But even that,

1057
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: what does that make the Raiders eight seven and nine,

1058
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: six and ten, nine and seven? If they're lucky, Like,

1059
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: when do you start hitting the winning now button when

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00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: you're the Patriots in your division? Like this is all

1061
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: kinds of crazy to me, and I hope it does

1062
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: work out. I know a ton of Dolphin fans. But

1063
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: so you guys don't think he's this is coach Dale.

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00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: They they know what they're doing and it's gonna work.

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00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna win it. What I don't think. I just

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00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: think it's the plan under this front office, starting with

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00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: the top. What have they shown that would lead you

1068
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: to believe they know what they're doing, that they're in

1069
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: on some secret that nobody else knows. Greer said something

1070
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: very interesting today. He made it he said, we're going

1071
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: to be aggressive in free agency. This is not going

1072
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: to be a long rebelt. He was saying, like we're

1073
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 1: playing they got in trouble in the first place, shopping

1074
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: in Arch for talent. Yeah next year. I mean, he

1075
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: made it sound like we're going to be aggressive and

1076
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 1: this is a short, short rebuild and it's not Flora's plan.

1077
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he must have been given assurances that

1078
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: he's not gonna you know, this isn't on hand, I'm

1079
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: gonna get act right. It's not. And again, I'll just

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00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: make this last point. The Clippers would have never gotten

1081
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 1: Kauai and Paul George to come the top free agents.

1082
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: They would never have chosen the Clippers if they didn't

1083
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: already have the idea of how to win. A coach

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00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: who knows how to win in a front office that

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00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: has the respective players like Kauai and Paul George, like

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00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: Jerry West, and like uh Lawrence Frank. No chance which

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00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 1: free agent in their right minds, despite how much money

1088
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: Stephen Ross might throw them say yeah, I'm ready, I'll

1089
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: go there and be part of a rebuild and try

1090
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: and win two three years from now. No chance. You

1091
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: have to have the ability to show what you're talking about, Chris.

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00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: You can build a team through free agency in the NBA,

1093
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: you can turn your entire franchise around and one fell

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00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: swoop like the Clippers did. You can't do that in

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00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: the NFL with free agency. Those players aren't available. Rich Eisen, Yes, sir,

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00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: thank you for having me on. It was amazing having

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00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: you here, Rich Uh and you know where to see

1098
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: what I think I talked too much now that you

1099
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 1: were awesome Game day morning on on Sundays after the games,

1100
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: you come back here and you watch the recaps rich

1101
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: in the whole Gang. Also the rich Podcast became the

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00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: Rich Eyes and Show Monday to Friday noon to three eastern. Uh.

1103
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: That's syndicated all over, but you can watch it on

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00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: direct TV on the Audience channel. The Grind, The Grind

1105
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: on EPICS nine o'clock every Wednesday night, nine Eastern time. Yeah,

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00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean they're killing it too. Epics is throwing a

1107
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 1: ton of promotion at it. Um and so this week

1108
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: it's Bettest in Pittsburgh and Charles Woodson uh in Miami.

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00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: Next week it's Snoop with DeAndre Hopkins when he comes

1110
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: here to Los Angeles hanging out with him. Um, why

1111
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: were we not? We're not pulled into this like this

1112
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: is this is how this is now. It's rolling, you know,

1113
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: And that the idea they contacting some great Hall of

1114
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: famers to hang out with their former teams or with

1115
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: players and all showing about how long of a slog

1116
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: of a season it is the Grind and um, and

1117
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: keep an eye out in the months ahead the NFL Onebration. Yeah,

1118
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: talk more about we'll talk about that because you're spending

1119
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: a lot of personal, well professional one on one time

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00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick himself. So we need to get you

1121
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: in your back. You know you're a Jets fan. You mean,

1122
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: my boy, be square? Are you allowed to do? I

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00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 1: did have an underlying question is what did he eat

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00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: when he was here? I don't know why. I just

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00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: want to know what sort of plates of food? Can

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00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: you watch and take notes as he eats? Rich and

1127
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: then we'll talk about November a little human you mean, like, no,

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00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: he's a human being, Okay, I mean I didn't. I

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00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: didn't watch him eat things. I didn't see what. He's

1130
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: got a great sense of humor. Well, so he don't

1131
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: need to have I need more details. We all do

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00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: on this. That's the type of commented chance. Like everyone

1133
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: always says that what does he eat? Well? Just like

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01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: you guys, probably at some point at all you all

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01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: got your plates of food, and like, does Belichick have

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01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: diet principles he holds too? Or what did you did

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Speaker 1: you watch him eating like a giant kings like he

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: wasn't like chewing like a turkey leg? Yeah, I don't know.

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01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: Agin assumes everyone just eats giant hunks of rabbie. I

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01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: don't want to I just want to know what I didn't.

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01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: I didn't take notes or or um but um in

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01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: the green room area. I was out of him Collinsworth

1143
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: and me the only one who ordered the egg whites.

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01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: You are how else would we know that had he

1145
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: not been there? Well that I learn, And that's how

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01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: Eisen has been getting sub six seconds even as the

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01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: ages working out for it. I'm working out. I know,

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01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, I don't think I could run. Which one

1149
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: of us are? Which one of us can scare you

1150
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: the most? If you had to take us on in

1151
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: that race, just by I question which one you'd say

1152
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: I need to practice a little bit harder or less? Uh?

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01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm Westling to me is a man who's been refocused

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01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: in life. Uh, and a man who has now got

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01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: a better half. Um. But Rosenthal strikes me as a

1156
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: little uh what was that, rang Rangy? Yeah, you might

1157
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: be able to I'm putting the miles in each week

1158
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: right now, pick him up and put them down now

1159
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: correct analysis. But all right, rich eyes and thank you buddy.

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Speaker 1: Thanks all right, rich is out the door, and thank

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Speaker 1: you to the face. Once again. We will keep going

1162
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: with the news now. So you know, by the way

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Speaker 1: I mentioned before whatever happened to Gary Cooper? So you

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01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: got make a Fitzpatrick who says I don't want to

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01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: be here anymore, and they just send him out of town. Now,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, the star quarter cornerback of the Jaguars, he

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01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: has requested at trade uh following brewing tensions with the

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Speaker 1: organization that being the Jaguars, rap Sheet reported on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Rap Sheet cited a number of reasons for Ramsey's frustration

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Speaker 1: with the team that drafted him fifth overall, in among

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01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: them being the confrontation he had with coach Doug Marone

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter of the team's Week two lost

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01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: to the Texans. I just want to I want to

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01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: say this and feel free to disagree with me. I

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01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: know you do feel free. Um, whatever happened to Gary Cooper? Why?

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Speaker 1: What is Jalen Ramy supposed to be a leader of

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Speaker 1: this team? And is this how the league is now?

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Speaker 1: When the tough gets when the going gets tough, you said,

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Speaker 1: get me out of here. I mean, he's supposed to

1180
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Speaker 1: be the face of this franchise and now maybe things

1181
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: are so bad behind the scenes that we don't know

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01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: that he um that he he feels it's toxic and

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01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: it's not a healthy place for him. But this just

1184
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: feels like it feels like a guy that once there's adversity, says,

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01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: send me somewhere else, Send me to the Patriots, send

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Speaker 1: me to a team that's that's going in the right

1187
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: direction rather and you know what, I'm going to be

1188
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: part of the solution here. This is a little on

1189
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: my radar some of this behavior. I'm saying, sure, but

1190
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Speaker 1: there's no Gary Cooper's in with to use that analogy

1191
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: on either side. Jalen Ramsey was very composed and I

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01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: thought mature interesting in his press conference today, and one

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01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: thing he made clear that Jaguars are the one that

1194
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: put the trade stuff out there, and he he just said,

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Speaker 1: all I can say is that there's no that we

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Speaker 1: requested the trade that we made sure a hundred percent

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Speaker 1: my agent and we've circled back on this that that

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01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: would not get out. We did not want it to

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Speaker 1: be a distraction for the team. The Jaguars put out

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01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: there because they want to trade them. They want to

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Speaker 1: get the most that they possibly can for him before

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Speaker 1: they have to pay him, because it sounds like they

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Speaker 1: don't want to. Let's let's listen to Ramsey. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk as soon as I could today

1205
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: just because I don't really want it to be a

1206
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: distraction for my teammates getting ready for a game on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: And right now, I'm still a part of the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I'm happy about that. I'm getting

1209
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 1: ready for the game as well. Uh, And that's what

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Speaker 1: my focus is right now. I've been in the meetings,

1211
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: I've been taking my notes, I've been getting ready for

1212
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: I walk those in our practice and everything that we

1213
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Speaker 1: gotta do. Idea. Well, I think what Greg's point, that's

1214
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Speaker 1: that's a writer talking. Fans don't care who released. Fans

1215
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: care that this guy asked for a trade from the franchise,

1216
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: not that he's not the one who put the story

1217
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: out there. He's the one asking for Gary Cooper thing.

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01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: It's like if they wanted, if they're worried about it,

1219
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: being like candle your business, you know, keep keep it quiet,

1220
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: let's not have a distraction. They're just they're just businessmen

1221
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: that are trying to get the most that they possibly

1222
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: can for him. They don't care about this, Greg. It

1223
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: is a Gary Cooper free zone. And Greg is correct

1224
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: about that. But that's the case all over the league.

1225
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: And I think that we are dealing with players who

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Speaker 1: we're telling Gary Cooper and the time that we're discussing

1227
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Speaker 1: is when butlayers anyways had zero personal direction or power

1228
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: nobility to direct their own careers. Now they're feeling incredibly empowered,

1229
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: and in any of them are probably being told by

1230
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: older players, don't do it the way we did. We

1231
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: didn't have a choice. You do, and me, I don't

1232
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: like it if I'm a fan and watching Jalen Ramsey

1233
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: roll into camp and a Brinx truck right away, you're

1234
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: when you're telling me, I don't want to be a distraction,

1235
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna talk about it now you already are.

1236
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: If you have to address this, you've already become a distraction.

1237
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: But in general, the distraction seems to be the players

1238
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: aren't all in for the next five or six or

1239
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: seven years. There are times, and we're getting to it,

1240
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: if you have a certain amount of star power, you

1241
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: can direct your way out of a losing situation. They're

1242
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: talking about the Chiefs is someone that's whispering talking about.

1243
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: But I agree with That's why I'm talking Garret Cooper

1244
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: because the idea what you want and the face of

1245
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: the franchise and a guy that was that, um, if

1246
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: they have a good relationship, is going to get paid

1247
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: by the Jaguars. You imagine he's he's that talented as

1248
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: a star. But I just I don't like the idea,

1249
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: and I think leadership is so important with the organization,

1250
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: and some of the things from Jalen Ramsey and the

1251
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: last year or so to me have turned me off,

1252
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: and I would imagine it might have turned the Jaguars

1253
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: off as well. And I know it's always it's very

1254
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: popular to always say, well, the team's wrong. Do never

1255
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: support the team, always support what the player is doing.

1256
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: But sometimes this to me makes a situation in Jacksonville

1257
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: when he as a leader, should be working towards getting

1258
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: this team out of the rut and getting the season

1259
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: back on track. Instead we have this entire soap opera

1260
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: playing out and the season is just gonna go first period.

1261
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: But he also shut down DeAndre Hopkins. It does raise

1262
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: like last week he balled out, he played one of

1263
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: his better games. You know that that he's played last

1264
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: week to me that he's trying. But since when has

1265
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: that been something that we need to say, Well, he's

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01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: still trying. I guess I thought it. It does raise

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01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: interesting questions like who is more important to the organization,

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01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 1: him or Doug Moron him Tom Coughlin. Now they say,

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01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: by the way they pay him that the players are

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01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: more important. Tom Coughlin and Doug Morone have you know,

1271
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: objectively done a much worse job at their jobs over

1272
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: the last few years. They decided to pay some offensive lineman.

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01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: They decided to play Mark Easilee, They decided to play

1274
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: pay Blake Bordles, They draft one defensive player, have they paid?

1275
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: They drafted Leonard four Nette over you know, so they've

1276
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: had their own issues. That doesn't mean that everyone should

1277
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: go in and request to trade. But I don't know.

1278
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: Douglar own has had a laundry list of issues with

1279
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: people wherever he's been, and that's part of the personality there.

1280
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: But I just would say no one's question if Jalen

1281
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: Ramsey is trying harder he's talented, I'm not, but talent

1282
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with leadership. And I don't see

1283
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: someone who over and over reminds me of the core

1284
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: leader on a team when he's creating these issues over

1285
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: and over and going to magazines and you know, generating

1286
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: toxic comments about quarterbacks from the league. That's part of

1287
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: today's game, and that's fine, But I don't have to

1288
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: say that's the guy I want running my locker room. Necessarily,

1289
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: it's fair to wonder where he wants to play. We

1290
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: know it's not Dallas. He's already come out and said

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01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: he'd never played for the Jones family. Um, this is

1292
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: a guy who thinks he knows more than the coaches.

1293
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: We can see that from his comments and his behavior.

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01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't like authority. He isn't like the hierarchy of

1295
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: the coaches telling him what to do. So to me,

1296
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: it's fair to wonder where he wants to play on field.

1297
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: Out of all the cornerbacks under twenty eight years old,

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01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: this guy is most likely to go to the Hall

1299
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: of Fame, I think, and I think Stephan Gilmore has

1300
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: been the best corner in the NFL for about the

1301
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: last year and a half, but before that it was

1302
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 1: Ramsey and he's probably Most people probably think that Jalen

1303
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: Ramsey is the most talented cornerback in the NFL. Fans

1304
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: asking why Stephan Gilmour is not on their team. I mean,

1305
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: it's like these guys move around there. I'm sure we

1306
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: can find, you know, exceptions, but you're not usually looking

1307
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 1: at your cornerback as as you're, you know, team leader.

1308
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: If you just kind of look at your best players

1309
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be your team leader. I'm just saying that,

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01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: for whatever reason the position, that's just sort of the

1311
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: history of the position. I would be interested to see

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01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: how much they get for him. I mean, if if

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01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: Minca's worth one first round pick and Laramie tuns is

1314
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: worth what he's worth. I know you have to pay

1315
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, but there's reportedly asking for two first That

1316
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 1: sounds about fire up the app the GM. At GM, hey,

1317
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: we have a for the first time, we have a

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01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: guy that is gonna wear a gold jacket, uh in

1319
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: about twelve years. He is just entering his prime. He

1320
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: is the guy that will put you over the top.

1321
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: Give it to us. This feels like an Eagle situation.

1322
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: To this feels like an Eagle's Jeffrey Chadiah of NFL

1323
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: Network has reported that the Chiefs are not interested, and

1324
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: if you look a little bit deeper, they've got to pay.

1325
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes they've gotta pay Chris Jones. I don't know

1326
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 1: if they've got the draft pick Ammo either to get him. UH.

1327
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: Let us move on. Yes, it has finally happened UM

1328
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: for the New York Giants, they are making the switch

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01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: at quarterback. The team announced Tuesday that rookie Daniel Jones

1330
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: will start UH this week and going forward. The move

1331
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: sends two time Super Bowl m VP Eli Manning UH

1332
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: to the bench. He'll be a backup UH and mentor

1333
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 1: role as they say, UM pat Irmer said in a

1334
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: statement that they spoke on Tuesday morning told him that

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01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: we are making a change and going with Daniel as

1336
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: a starter. Eli was obviously disappointed and you would as

1337
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: you would expect, but he said he would be what

1338
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: he has always been, a good teammate and continue to

1339
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: prepare to help this team win games. So it has happened.

1340
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,799
Speaker 1: We one of our our first sandwich prop of the season.

1341
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: UM does not cash out for anyone. Mark. You are

1342
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: the closest you had week one, week two, weeks two

1343
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: when Daniel Jones would replace Eli Manning. And I'm not

1344
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: going to give you one of these eighteen month campaigns

1345
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: where I should have won this I did not win it.

1346
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: I lost. Good no horse shoes and hand grenade scenario here.

1347
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean the other one is completely legitimate, legitimate, the

1348
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: Philly Special. This one I am willing to because I'm

1349
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: logical not beat the drum on this. I lost. Okay, good,

1350
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: very big of you. So the Jones will be the starter.

1351
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: And West, Um, I know you've been pounding the drum

1352
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 1: on this um for a couple of years now that

1353
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: it was time for Eli fireworks going off at West's house.

1354
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: Well it's finally happened. Well. I think, first of all,

1355
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: Eli deserves respect for starting two six games in the NFL,

1356
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,440
Speaker 1: leading his team to two Super Bowls, and really engendering

1357
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: extraordinary levels of loyalty from his organization and former teammates

1358
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: like NFL Networks own Shawn O'Hara, who still have his

1359
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: back to this day and are questioning the organization for

1360
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: benching him. It does on the subject of leadership. This

1361
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: guy clearly has had it his entire career and had

1362
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: it in spades, and I think he deserves a ton

1363
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: of respect for that. That said, I've been saying this

1364
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: for two and a half years, and the way NFL

1365
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: a now is his works. Guys like Kirk Cousins, Mitch Robinski,

1366
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,839
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, they've all got critics, they've all got haters,

1367
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: and every other week those haters are skeptical that they're right.

1368
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: They're like, well, maybe I'm looking at this wrong. Trobiski

1369
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: is on break, on track to break records for the Bears.

1370
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: You know, Cousins looks great. Never in two and alf years,

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01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: as I thought, have I thought Eli has been anything

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01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: other than washed up. I think they made this move

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01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: a couple years too late. I don't understand why they

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01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 1: paid him what they paid him this year, and I

1375
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: don't understand what the organization was doing all offseason. Daniel

1376
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 1: Jones playing so well in camp and especially the preseason

1377
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: was a big factor here. I wish I had written

1378
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: in one of those preseason winners and losers. It's up

1379
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: to Eli when he gets banned, because the second there

1380
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: two games under five hundred, that's probably the time. You know,

1381
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: I wish I had gone Week three, they lose the

1382
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: right out of the thing. I think I was thinking

1383
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 1: week five, they'd be one at three. Doesn't matter. Daniel

1384
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 1: Jones played awesome. That's the problem. I mean, the the

1385
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 1: worst excuse, And this is what the Giants kept saying was, well,

1386
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: you know their defense is terrible, and you know what

1387
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: does it really meant? Well, that doesn't mean you still

1388
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: tried out one of the five or six worst quarterbacks

1389
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: in the league. You I think their offense could be

1390
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: pretty good. And by the way, we heard forever, oh

1391
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: the protect If the protection was better, who could It's

1392
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: been perfect through two weeks. The last problem that they've

1393
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: had in their two regular season games has been pass protection.

1394
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: That has not been a problem. I I would it's

1395
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: to me if you're a Giants fan, I don't know what.

1396
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what if or Giants fan you want

1397
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: to work out and not work out. But it suggests

1398
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: to me that Pat Shermer is something a little bit

1399
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: more uh than a Manchurian candidate in this whole you

1400
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: know scenario, because he this had to have been how

1401
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: he felt for a long time. He's been talking up

1402
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones while everyone else was killing the team for

1403
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: drafting him. He was saying in the early rookie minicamps

1404
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: everything this guy is processing information. I like him a lot.

1405
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 1: So I feel that Pat Schremer finally had to be

1406
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: given a shot to run the offensive way he wanted to.

1407
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: That's out of your Dale Jones. You're walking into a

1408
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 1: scenario where you've got almost no healthy wide receiver's encounter

1409
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,520
Speaker 1: right now. It's a it is a rather one dimensional

1410
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: attack where they seem to be out of ideas on

1411
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 1: how to fool anyone after the first quarter. From the

1412
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: two games I've seen, there is better protection in the past,

1413
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: but it's not a great situation of walk into the defense.

1414
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: Isn't helping you out, but they needed to do it.

1415
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: It's not great, but it could be worse because and

1416
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: now we get to see it because Dave Getleman, who

1417
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: put everything on the line and he did not have

1418
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: a good offseason, Dave Gentleman, but when he took Sae

1419
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 1: Juan Barkley with that pick and passed on all those quarterbacks, um,

1420
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: everybody killed him. And see Juan Barkley has turned into

1421
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: arguably the best running back in the league and a

1422
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: guy that can be potentially, uh you know, potentially like

1423
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: a all time talent. Now he's got Daniel Jones in

1424
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: the lineup, so now we'll see, Um, if Dave Gotlman

1425
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: is a guy that has a future with the Giants

1426
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: because if Jones looks like a guy who can play,

1427
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 1: if he makes strides, and they did for all the

1428
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 1: Giants mistakes and paying Eli, and there's a lot of

1429
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: money on the hook for Eli and that was all bad.

1430
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: But that's not our money. It's it's it's a done

1431
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: deal now. Um, they did get him in early here,

1432
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,959
Speaker 1: it is the middle of September. He's gonna have essentially

1433
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 1: close to a full season if he stays healthy to

1434
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: develop as a rookie passer, and if he does develop

1435
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: well and the Giants flash, David Guttlman is going to

1436
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: come out of this feeling good and have job security,

1437
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 1: as does Pat Shermer. So you you look at the

1438
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: Giants and you see they might be a little interesting

1439
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: to watch now. It's certainly wasn't the case West with Eli.

1440
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 1: At this point. Well, I think you're gonna see a

1441
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,560
Speaker 1: different offense. You're gonna see the r p O s

1442
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: that all these other young athletic quarterbacks are running. And

1443
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: we'll see what Pat Shermer's made of as a play caller.

1444
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 1: He got this job for a reason. I think good

1445
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: for Sequon Barkley. Yeah, and I think Pat Sheremer had

1446
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 1: to tell the front out, and I think Gettelman is

1447
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: he's an ELI guy, even though he took Daniel Jones.

1448
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: He's as loyal to ELI as anyone had to be. Like,

1449
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna get fired, give me a chance to

1450
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: go with to show you what I can do with

1451
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Because Pet Sheremers not surviving this. It's like

1452
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: they're not Pet Shermer's not gonna be their coach in

1453
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,600
Speaker 1: four years unless he can somehow get Daniel Jones to

1454
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 1: look really good and maybe win some games too, but

1455
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: especially make Daniel Jones look good this year like he

1456
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: is in a one year window, or they'll be moving

1457
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 1: on to another coach. That's actually why I went with

1458
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 1: Week two, because I think these things tend to happen

1459
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: quicker in the regular season when suddenly you have a

1460
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: whole coaching staff, their families have all moved to this

1461
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: air you and you gotta tell your assistant coaches were

1462
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 1: stuck with this guy for the next ten weeks. And

1463
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 1: why isn't Jake Cruden having the same conversation about Dwayne

1464
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: haskins um And yeah, ELI has gotten He's been a

1465
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: punching bag for a couple of years now, not just

1466
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: in this room, but in the media and on Twitter,

1467
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: he's become something of a joke. But I think the

1468
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 1: reason why I and we'll talk more about Eli when

1469
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: he retires, maybe we'll come as soon as a few

1470
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 1: months from now. But I think maybe one of the

1471
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 1: reasons why in this studio I always kind of defended

1472
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: him as having been in New York when he had

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01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: his rise, and the fact that he not only was

1474
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: at times a very competent quarterback, and of course what

1475
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: he did and beating Bill Bell Chick and Tom Brady

1476
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: twice in the Super Bowl, which you can never take away.

1477
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: People always slept on a what a good um Uh,

1478
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: what the iron man aspect of a guy that's there

1479
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: every week and how many teams struggle. Look at the Jets,

1480
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: they're on their third quarterback in three weeks. Eli Manning

1481
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: every week was there? Uh. And he also did it right.

1482
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: He was a good guy with the media, he was

1483
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: involved with the community in terms of charity work. He's

1484
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: a good guy. And I just think he was a

1485
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: great pick for the Giants. And and I don't know,

1486
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 1: you we could argue about Canton when the time comes um,

1487
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: but I mean they nailed the pick. He's one of

1488
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: the guys where the person will it could propel him

1489
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: right into the Hall of Fame if there's any question,

1490
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: because the person's kept some people out for years and years.

1491
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I could care less about the Hall

1492
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: of Fame, but sneaky fun to watch. Like in two

1493
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: thousand eleven. There was only a couple of those seasons,

1494
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: but at that moment in two thousand and eleven especially,

1495
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 1: he completed about as many low percentage How did he

1496
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: possibly do that? You shouldn't have even tried it type

1497
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: of like amazing throws late in that season. And even

1498
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: though he didn't have a great Super Bowl, necessarily in

1499
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: a very good one, like he was the reason that

1500
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: they won that Super Bowl more more than he made

1501
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: a couple of huge throws in that Super Bowl too.

1502
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: We talked about the Mario Mannahan throw is the best

1503
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: throwing Giants history. The helmet catches the most famous throw.

1504
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: But you know you could have that career You've taken

1505
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: a second minus maybe Twitter existing where my face is

1506
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: being magnetized day after day every time something happens to anyone.

1507
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: But all right, let's move on. Um, Cam Newton aggravated

1508
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: that foot spring he suffered in the preseason, and maybe

1509
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: that shed some light on why he has not looked

1510
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: like himself in the early going this season. Um. He

1511
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 1: did not practice on Tuesday, rang alarm bells, then rap

1512
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: Sheet and Tom Hells or Pellicero reported that his status

1513
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: is up in the air for Sunday against the Cardinals. UM.

1514
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: I believe since that reporting it is is it a

1515
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: done deal or is it still up in the air

1516
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: right now about Newton's availability Either way, Uh, the guy's

1517
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: not healthy and and Greg we he didn't play healthy.

1518
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: Uh in Week two and again this is the guy

1519
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: they need him to be, Cam Newton and he's just

1520
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: not that guy right now. People have tried to determine

1521
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: when the injury happened. It looked like it was. I

1522
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: think it was in the second quarter of Week one.

1523
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: At that point, he was seven for eight against the

1524
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: Rams and you can see the play where it happened.

1525
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 1: And he hasn't played very well since, so there's kind

1526
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,719
Speaker 1: of a one to one comparison. We can talk about

1527
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 1: it again Thursday. We don't need to, uh, you know,

1528
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: bemoan it, but it sounds like it's a long term injury.

1529
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: Just the way they're talking about it does not seem

1530
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: like it's something that, hey, he's got a chance to place.

1531
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: It sounds like something that could be a few weeks

1532
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 1: here with Kyle Allen, which is, you know, puts all

1533
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: the more pressure on on a GM and a coach

1534
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: who I think knows that they need to make the

1535
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 1: playoffs this year, or or a new owner might just

1536
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 1: change it. I would just mention, and I you know,

1537
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,560
Speaker 1: not Cam Newton, is you're gonna replace Cam Newton? And

1538
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: I that very good chance he's just there next year,

1539
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: no questions asked. But you can get out of his

1540
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 1: contract for a song for nothing. And I just that

1541
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: feels like a team where the table is set for

1542
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 1: a massive look differently looking Carolina Panthers team next year. Coach, quarterback,

1543
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 1: everything weirder things have happened. I mean, I like the

1544
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 1: idea of Kim Newton, But when is the last time

1545
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: we felt like this was a fully healthy quarterback who

1546
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,839
Speaker 1: no questions asked. It's gonna be the iron Man scenario

1547
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: we just talked about last November. That offense was awesome

1548
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: with North North Turner before he heard his shoulder it was.

1549
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: It is just feels like it's always something with him though.

1550
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 1: But what these two injuries he's had with the shoulder

1551
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: in this foot are obviously serious enough that he's a

1552
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: totally different quarterback when he's trying to play through them.

1553
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes quarterbacks can play through injuries and be close to themselves.

1554
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: He is a shadow of himself. And for what it's worth.

1555
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones of the mm QB, a former Panthers beat writer,

1556
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: says he believes Kyle Allen is definitely starting this week

1557
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: and he would wager the field over Cam Newton in

1558
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: week four two. Kyle and look great, by the way

1559
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: in week seventeen. Didn't look quite as good in the past. Uh,

1560
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news, alright. So it's a

1561
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: supersized edition of the Around the NFL podcast with Rich

1562
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: Eyes And do you think Rich liked the face as

1563
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: a nickname? Did? What? Did you guys think he was

1564
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: prepared to be skept? It cool? But you want him over?

1565
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean, what's not to like about it? I think

1566
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: it it's core. It's sort of saying you're the dude,

1567
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: you're the man. He wasn't sure what you were getting

1568
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: at I don't think. I mean, wouldn't you like it if?

1569
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if if you know, this will never happen.

1570
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: But down the road you were known as like the

1571
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 1: face of NFL network or the core typist of NFL

1572
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: dot com. That feels more achievable, core type that feels

1573
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: achieve core typist. It's the fingers of NFL dot com

1574
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: over there. Once you explained it to him, I felt

1575
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,560
Speaker 1: like he was on board. I mean, I felt like

1576
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: I had to explain it there. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, there.

1577
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 1: It did feel like a mixed reaction. I'm not sure.

1578
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: What if I find a knife in my tire when

1579
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 1: I get to my car, I'll know probably the lanyard

1580
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: wielding security people. Um West, I love by the way

1581
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: that you're clashing with security. I feel like you're carrying

1582
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: on my legacy I've kind of moved away from and

1583
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: my war with him. Um, but you are picking up

1584
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: the torch, you're taking the baton, and you're fighting the good.

1585
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: Do you know why. I know that they have no

1586
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 1: hand to play here, because if it's important enough, they

1587
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't to just let it go after a week last time,

1588
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 1: they just let it lapse for a year and then

1589
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: now they're like, oh, it's important to wear a lang.

1590
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if the audience knows, but West, when

1591
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: he tried to enter the property today, was told take

1592
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: out your lanyards show. How about the audience, I'm pretty

1593
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 1: sure they don't know. Now they do. I mean, it's

1594
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't conversation to your point. It is the second

1595
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: time this has come around. I think these corporate mantras.

1596
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: Obviously they got the security group together well that these

1597
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: things have a half life. By a month from now,

1598
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: no one's gonna be asking you you put up a

1599
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: strong resistance, West, and you've seen a shot to security

1600
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: right now because you you didn't. You were like one

1601
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: of my my children, who knows. Okay, it's a new

1602
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: school year. We're gonna put down some new rules, and

1603
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 1: if they just fight against it as hard as they can,

1604
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: after a week and a half, those rules will be

1605
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 1: out there. Well, it's a stupid rule. You don't have

1606
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 1: grown men to wear lanyards around their neck. So it

1607
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: feels like you're strangled by a lazy person all day.

1608
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: Please they might be singling you out there. I mean,

1609
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: none of us the three of us. I think they've

1610
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: got got his picture up on the wall and I've

1611
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: been stopped. I've been stopped, but I like what I did.

1612
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: I took a different text. I said, you know what,

1613
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 1: thank you for letting me know. I absolutely will address it.

1614
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate you telling me. And then we went our

1615
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: separate ways. I never won one again. Well, you don't

1616
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 1: want to get on the lanyard bad boys lists announcing,

1617
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, and they have they have the pictures just

1618
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: in there back in their little hot back. They want

1619
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: to know you work here, so that if someone's walking

1620
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: around without a lanyard, then we know that there's you're

1621
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: my belt loop and put it through the exchanger every

1622
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 1: day when I come through. So they whatever for someone

1623
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: who prances around with the Ricky Hollywood as her Twitter handle,

1624
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: you were surprising on board with this, with securities take

1625
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 1: on this, like you know, West, it would be a

1626
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: good idea for you to wear this. But you would

1627
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: think like Ricky who walks around with her black jeans

1628
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 1: with the holes and the knees, and she's like, I'm

1629
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: a bad girl, I'm part of youth culture like that,

1630
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: she wouldn't fall in line with this whole policy of management.

1631
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 1: It's it is a surprise. Okay, yeah, let's circle back

1632
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: on our third three of the show. We can talk

1633
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: about it. Then the show is a little long. Hit

1634
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: us up if you think the show is too long.

1635
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: Also stop heading up Mark and Dan asking us or

1636
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,839
Speaker 1: them how they're feeling, like as their hearts are breaking.

1637
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: Yet can you see if Dan is okay? Mark, it's

1638
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: the same thing constantly. It's not helping. And by the way,

1639
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I processed the grief of the end of

1640
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 1: the Jet season on last Thursday's show, so I watched

1641
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: Monday's game with a sense of detachment that was already over,

1642
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 1: and sure enough it was over. Just a general role

1643
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 1: here in life. Some people, when they're suffering, they need space,

1644
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 1: not smothering. Twitter is not about space, And I know

1645
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 1: people mean, well, sorry, I'm not trying to get on you.

1646
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's helping to ask and then

1647
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: tag Mark and Dan in that I'm rock and roll

1648
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, but I follow the rules like Sue me.

1649
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like it was this screaming about like

1650
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: security threats. It's a jarring juxtaposition. I think you can

1651
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 1: understand where we're coming from. That's all. It's like burned

1652
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: security to the ground, doors open all the way. Well,

1653
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: there was like a gun you know, seminar that we

1654
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: all had to take. It was like an eight hour

1655
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: thing on NFL security that you bozos just like sat

1656
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 1: like past that you didn't have to go to that.

1657
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 1: The security guy who's curity guy who says hi to

1658
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 1: me every day and holds conversations with me, knows who

1659
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: I am and doesn't need a lanyard to identify me.

1660
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: All right, Thursday Night Football put a pin in it

1661
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: an a f C South showdown between the Tennessee Tytoons

1662
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: one and one. After that dispiriting home loss to the Colts,

1663
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 1: now travel to the big Chlorine Tank in Jacksonville to

1664
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: face the Jaguars and um, greg this is a very

1665
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: interesting matchup between I'll sell it the Titans. You find

1666
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: it interesting, but I'm trying to sell it to the

1667
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: greater public. The Titans, which they could not have looked

1668
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: better in the second half against the Browns on the road,

1669
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: got everybody sucked in and then looked very much like

1670
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: the old Titans in week two, Which who's the real Titans?

1671
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: In nine? In two thousand nineteen and the Jags anytime

1672
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: you this is a caged animal game, West cornered animal game.

1673
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: Oh and two, everyone knows your season is over in

1674
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: the NFL um when you go and three with the

1675
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 1: added element caged animal of your cornerback trying to get

1676
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: out of the cage before the game exactly. Uh so

1677
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 1: there you go. I'll stretch it up that way, Greg,

1678
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: caged animal game against the Titans team that we really

1679
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 1: don't know who they are yet. We've seen a ceiling

1680
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: and a floor already. It's and and a quarterback in

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville that sort of resembles a you know, a cute

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01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: fury caged animals gardener Gardner. Minshew looked fine in his

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01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 1: first start, but this is a perfect matchup for Tennessee

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01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: to get right. Not only did they kind of wipe

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01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: the floor with Jacksonville. If I remember a few times

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01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 1: a year ago, they're a vetter in secondary who should

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01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,959
Speaker 1: be able to swarm and kind of swallow this Jaguars offense,

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01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: which was very condensed the week ago. This is just

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01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: so there's such a limited team, they're so thin, you

1690
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 1: know how sometimes you hear oh Dak Prescott He's completed

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01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: eight passes, you know, two different receivers in the first half.

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01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: They've six Jaguars period have caught passes this year. They

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01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: don't have a backup running back, their offensive line is

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01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: very thin, and they were struggling to pick up blitz Is.

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01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: It's just a lot to ask for Minshew, who I

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01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: think is doing a good job, and their defense to

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01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 1: carry them. I think when you have, you know, the

1698
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: b line through both games was that despite some big

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01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 1: players on offense for the Titans against the Browns, Marcus Mariota,

1700
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: he's not a quarterback that propels any offense he's in.

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01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: He seems to hold you back. And and one and

1702
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: one thing that I find interesting about a team like

1703
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 1: the Titans versus others is that you get Adam Humphries

1704
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: and you mentioned on Sunday Danny finishes Week two with

1705
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: negative two yards. I thought he was gonna be, uh

1706
01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: the perfect thing for Marcus Mariota and a j Brown

1707
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: big game Week one, really nothing in Week two. And

1708
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: it's just you cannot count on the Titans attack week

1709
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: to week outside of I think you know, Henry potentially

1710
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: on the ground has been consistent since last November so

1711
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: one of the better backs in the league. They're gonna

1712
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: need him to be big in this game. But I

1713
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 1: do trust every other element of the Titans and their defense,

1714
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: and to me, I'd be surprised that they don't win

1715
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: this by ten points or more. They're the better all

1716
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: around team. I expect him to win. But you never

1717
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 1: know when a Jaguars defense is perfectly capable of shutting

1718
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: down the Tennessee Titans, who are not dynamic on offer.

1719
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean they shut down the Texans. The Texans I

1720
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 1: think one of their touchdown I believe was on a

1721
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 1: very short field. Otherwise they did a great job and

1722
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 1: that was without in Gockway and boy A don't know

1723
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: if they're back, but they got pressure on Watson and

1724
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:50,839
Speaker 1: that's two weeks in a row for Watson. But Watson

1725
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,799
Speaker 1: that didn't shut the offense down against New Orleans mansho

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01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: Mania Thursday night. All Right, I'm you know what, I'm

1727
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 1: gonna be open minded about it. Mark, I'm not. I

1728
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: never gonna be be on the Minshew bandwagon. Like I said,

1729
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: I made that decision, so I'm watching it from the outside.

1730
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: But he seems like a likable enough kids think the

1731
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: bandwagon I mean, it feels like there was a big

1732
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 1: send off party, like when you say goodbye to a

1733
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: boat where a lot, But then you know, it's it's

1734
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: a hundred miles out at sea and it's lonely, and

1735
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: we're you know, we're gonna have to be reminded that

1736
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 1: the bandwagon is still moving across the country here, Erica.

1737
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: You know, message me like ten minutes ago. We need

1738
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: to move this along, you know, But we do have

1739
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 1: one sound drop that I got I prepared, so we

1740
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 1: might as well use it. Probably one of the most

1741
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:37,679
Speaker 1: unpleasant auditory moments in NFL press conference history happened today

1742
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: with Jalen Ramsey. Let's hit it. Oh, oh that is

1743
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey cracking. Let's do it again. Oh that's gross.

1744
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 1: How bigger n That's the loudest knuckle cracking you heard.

1745
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's probably got big hands, So I imagine

1746
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: that's actually a good question. If you have bigger bones,

1747
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: bigger finger's, bigger hands, you crack louder. I guess you would.

1748
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 1: I think right. I love this podcast because we came

1749
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 1: out of it were like, let's let's move let's move

1750
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: the rest of it along. We spend five minutes on.

1751
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: Now we're talking knuckle cracking. Um. Alright, so that's it

1752
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: for Tuesday's show. Thank you for everybody, uh for listening,

1753
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: and we'll be back on Thursday night. Uh, well, we'll

1754
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 1: be back Thursday with our preview show. We're working out

1755
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 1: the details. Yes, we were in dialogue with our listeners

1756
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: via social media about how we're going to handle the

1757
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: show roll out with Thursday Night Football. Internally, it has

1758
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: not been locked down, but we're leaning towards releasing the

1759
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football recap um as its own mini pod

1760
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: on Thursday nights and getting out the preview episode earlier

1761
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 1: in the day. Um, that's probably where we're gonna go

1762
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 1: with it, but you'll find out soon enough. Prepare your complaints.

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01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: Dan Hanses signing off our Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Face,

1764
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 1: the Old Boss and mis Rule Bottleer behind the Glass

1765
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 1: until Thursday m hm