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Speaker 1: Jeff Jonnyac along with Tom Fayer and another edition of
Speaker 1: Bears All Access for coming to you from P ANDC
Speaker 1: Studio at Hallis Halls. The Bears wrap up the bourbon
Speaker 1: a portion of their training camp and are now back
Speaker 1: in the building and ready to practice tomorrow. We are
Speaker 1: going to look at the Bears Centennial scrapbook tonight with
Speaker 1: two Hall of Fame writers, the great Don Pearson now
Speaker 1: in retirement and enjoy himself, and the guy who's still working,
Speaker 1: Damn Pompey. Well, you know you're nipping at his heels,
Speaker 1: but you're still churning out KYLEA minches so a way
Speaker 1: to go working just moments before I started the show.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, now I appreciate you coming
Speaker 1: to halla sauce. We take a look at this book
Speaker 1: one more time, but before we do that, just a
Speaker 1: quick talk about training camp wrapping up and what was accomplished.
Speaker 1: You know, I think it was more of accomplishing with
Speaker 1: expectations because last year you didn't know what the expectations were,
Speaker 1: and you didn't know what you were going to accomplish
Speaker 1: because we didn't know a lot about Matt and Maggie
Speaker 1: his staff and the way everything was gonna kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, fit together. And then when you look at
Speaker 1: the end result, I think they went into training camp
Speaker 1: this year with as high as expectations as you guys
Speaker 1: were both here in eighty four, probably the highest expectations
Speaker 1: since eighty five. I agree with that. I don't remember
Speaker 1: any time it's been this high. I'm not sure it
Speaker 1: was eighty four, eighty five, I'm telling you, you really
Speaker 1: think so, it's just off the charts. I think, yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: the fans who turned out will verify that because the
Speaker 1: last practice that was open to the public almost ten
Speaker 1: thousand fans, So they drew very well over the course
Speaker 1: or training camp. Many days were you there a couple? Yeah,
Speaker 1: A couple of days? Yeah, what was your opinion. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought the defense just looks outstanding. I mean,
Speaker 1: if it could be better than last year, it might
Speaker 1: have taken a step up. Now, you know, I think
Speaker 1: there's some areas where the depth is questionable, where you
Speaker 1: don't want to get injuries because that could be a big,
Speaker 1: big deal. But boy, the starting unit just looks unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, people were somewhat concerned about
Speaker 1: a drop off with Vic Fangio being gone, and I
Speaker 1: don't see that as being a possibility. But you know, Dan,
Speaker 1: the national media doesn't seem to be as hyped on
Speaker 1: the Bears as you know, you listen to different shows,
Speaker 1: you see them and stuff, and it just their expectations
Speaker 1: aren't as much as us are the people that have
Speaker 1: come out to see the Bears, or even the people
Speaker 1: that have been able to witness practices such as yourself. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I think if you look at the team
Speaker 1: from a distance, you see, you know, you see questions
Speaker 1: still about Mitch Trubisky, right, you see people having some
Speaker 1: skepticism whether or not he's going to be a quarterback
Speaker 1: who could win games for you consistently when he has to. Uh,
Speaker 1: you see an unsettled kicking situation. Uh, and then you
Speaker 1: wonder if the team can stay as healthy as it
Speaker 1: did last year, because that was the healthiest Bears team
Speaker 1: that we've seen. And when was the last time you
Speaker 1: guys have seen a team a Bears team that healthy. Uh?
Speaker 1: You can you think back that far? I mean no, no,
Speaker 1: long time, long time you even think of Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: You lose Mike Brown and Tommy Harris. Well, they were
Speaker 1: they were, they were healthy before that point that that
Speaker 1: kind of got him there, right, but then in the
Speaker 1: game itself they were without there. Well, Don, was the
Speaker 1: history that you've been around the NFL? And Dan, are
Speaker 1: you okay with the modern day playing of in the
Speaker 1: preseason games? Because back in the day, you were covering
Speaker 1: starters in every preseason game. Seven games sometimes? Can you
Speaker 1: imagine that half a season and ridiculous and the and
Speaker 1: the regulars are playing. But another fact, But back then,
Speaker 1: did you think it was ridiculous? Then I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: Back then, when they're playing seven games, sometimes these guys
Speaker 1: really were getting himself ship. Yeah, there weren't the OTAs.
Speaker 1: The guys weren't working out all year, they were working
Speaker 1: separate jobs, so they would come into camp literally out
Speaker 1: of shape and have to get themselves in shape. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't that big a deal to play seven games.
Speaker 1: Well seven games is a big deal because that's when
Speaker 1: they would play in a college All Star games. So
Speaker 1: but in six games, you know, that's a lot. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, and the other thing Tom could speak to this,
Speaker 1: guys are getting injured more today than they ever were
Speaker 1: back then. It seems like now. Sometimes back then they
Speaker 1: injuries were more catastrophic. You know, you had the injuries
Speaker 1: that ended careers, it seemed more frequently. But boy, you
Speaker 1: see more, you know, soft tissue injuries now it seems
Speaker 1: like than ever before. You know, it makes injuries nowadays
Speaker 1: in training camp catastrophic. Is when we went to training
Speaker 1: camp back in the eighties and stuff, you had an
Speaker 1: unlimited roster. So you were a training camp with one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty guys a time.
Speaker 1: So if a guy got hurt, there's ten guys standing
Speaker 1: behind them that eventually you're gonna find one of them. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: there's ninety guys. Ten of those guys are going to
Speaker 1: be on a practice squad and then the rest of them,
Speaker 1: you know, it's you just hope there isn't injuries because
Speaker 1: they are catastrophic. Then I would like to see the
Speaker 1: roster has expanded a little bit. I've got a question
Speaker 1: going back to when you were talking about the transition
Speaker 1: of defensive coordinators. Yeah, you will remember this time, and
Speaker 1: I haven't seen this much about it, But when Buddy
Speaker 1: left in nineteen eighty five and Vince Tobin came in
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six, although team everybody loved Buddy and
Speaker 1: everybody was worried about there's going to be a drop off,
Speaker 1: And I remember the team, the defensive players saying, hey, look,
Speaker 1: we're gonna play harder than we've ever played before. You
Speaker 1: know why, because if there's a drop off, Buddy's gonna
Speaker 1: get all the credit. Seriously, and the players we want
Speaker 1: to show everybody that the players. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: the players today, if it's not public, I bet they're
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. They all love Vic, they love
Speaker 1: Vic Vangield. They lived what he did. But if they'd
Speaker 1: have a drop off, Vick is gonna get all the credit.
Speaker 1: They don't want Vick to get all of credit. But
Speaker 1: you know that that's the truth. Yea, it is what happened.
Speaker 1: You know, the guy's an important leadership roles when you
Speaker 1: talk about fence Nick and you talk about Singletary and
Speaker 1: Hampton in McMichael, and it's the whole crew of guys,
Speaker 1: but you know they're they're similar leadership on this defense.
Speaker 1: You know, you got Danny Trevathan and then you you
Speaker 1: have what Khalil Mack has brought along and what Roquan
Speaker 1: is developing into in the influence of Keem Hicks on
Speaker 1: the entire defensive line and the most underrated of all
Speaker 1: Eddie Jacks, right, But you know he's such a young guy,
Speaker 1: but he's a loud voice in there. You would be surprised.
Speaker 1: Well think he's he's um had the best training camp
Speaker 1: of any you know, one of all the defensive players.
Speaker 1: I think he's the You had one of the best
Speaker 1: training camps I've seen of a young guy rebounding from
Speaker 1: one year to the name he got He got tempt
Speaker 1: there's a w BBM practice ball for the entirety of
Speaker 1: training camp. You could make a case for Prince Mugamar.
Speaker 1: You can make a case every snap for Khalil Mack,
Speaker 1: and you certainly can make a case for all Kan
Speaker 1: Smith it is a name defense. Now across the board.
Speaker 1: You got guys on there that our top one hundred
Speaker 1: players used to be top one hundred players. You got
Speaker 1: guys with tremendous stats now coming out from last season.
Speaker 1: So it's really a name defense requiring a nickname at
Speaker 1: some point, I would think, right, you know, to me,
Speaker 1: the bigger issue, as opposed to the defensive players being
Speaker 1: motivated by the transition of defensive coordinators, is what kind
Speaker 1: of buttons is put out I'm going to push on
Speaker 1: game day and his game plans and how is that
Speaker 1: going to be different? And that's something that we really,
Speaker 1: we really don't know yet. We have no idea how
Speaker 1: you guys might have a little bit of a better
Speaker 1: idea from being able to observe up close and watching
Speaker 1: some of the tape for the practices. I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be an aggressive unit, man, and I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna love it. I think the player you're gonna
Speaker 1: love it. You think of the personalities of the four
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators, it Vic Fangio and Buddy Ryan. There's similarities
Speaker 1: between a little cantankerous in front of the media and
Speaker 1: they're going to answer you, not always the way you
Speaker 1: want to hear it, the way they want to say it.
Speaker 1: And we don't know a lot about coach Pagano yet,
Speaker 1: how he's gonna be at the podium on during the
Speaker 1: game weeks in the regular season. But Vince Toben was
Speaker 1: a little bit um, you know, he was a little
Speaker 1: bit mellower than than what Buddy Ryan was and the
Speaker 1: and the way he you know, got into the faces
Speaker 1: of the players and stuff. One thing I think, though,
Speaker 1: one little difference is that you know, the players in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six and the Vince Toben era, you know,
Speaker 1: they were still loyal to Buddy. You know, they loved
Speaker 1: Buddy and he was always going to be their guy,
Speaker 1: right And Vince was kind of you as the outsider
Speaker 1: who never really was quite accepted the way that Buddy was.
Speaker 1: Pagano is already I think you love and you know,
Speaker 1: he's just you can't not love that guy if you're
Speaker 1: playing for him. And that's been his history, and that's
Speaker 1: going to be a difference from what we're talking about
Speaker 1: the eighties. Pompey Don Pearson joining us as we will
Speaker 1: now begin our look at the centennial scrapbook that they
Speaker 1: put together over months and months of research. We've talked
Speaker 1: about it on several occasions with these gentlemen, once training
Speaker 1: Camp with Dan Pompey, once Indicator with Don Pearson, and
Speaker 1: also at the one hundred celebrations, So a lot of
Speaker 1: discussion about it. It's a great book. Go and get it.
Speaker 1: Go to the Bear's website, buy it. It's great to
Speaker 1: have in your family to pass down through generations because
Speaker 1: it's all there, it's all encompassed the one hundred year
Speaker 1: history of the Chicago Bears with Paul's Orang, Our engineer
Speaker 1: Jordan tread Up, our producer. This is Bears All Access
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Speaker 1: Act Tom there with our guests, the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: writers Dan Pompey and Don Pearson. They authored the Centennial
Speaker 1: scrap Book, which is going to be the bulk of
Speaker 1: our discussion here on this week's Bears All Access and
Speaker 1: we're coming to you from P ANDC Studios at Hollis Hall.
Speaker 1: And every time we visit, I always say, okay, what's
Speaker 1: being talked about the book? Now several weeks after we
Speaker 1: asked you these these questions before. So it's when people
Speaker 1: get it, they have their own opinions about, you know, where,
Speaker 1: for example, the player rankings are, or they it jogs
Speaker 1: their memory about. Tom brought up something the other day
Speaker 1: and we found out a little more about who was
Speaker 1: the presenter for George Hallis at the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: which we didn't know. I didn't know. Maybe you guys knew,
Speaker 1: did you guys know? I know, but I'm not sure
Speaker 1: I could bring it up right now. Oh okay, Well
Speaker 1: I don't know why that would be the case. But
Speaker 1: Tom there found out and he's got the info. But
Speaker 1: it's it's stuff like that, you know, he wasn't there,
Speaker 1: did the presenter? He was George George when he wanted
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame. The Bears were playing out
Speaker 1: all okay a game I think in New Orleans September seventh,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, David Lawrence was as presenter who was
Speaker 1: a politician, of of or advisor to Kennedy. I believe
Speaker 1: it was Wow. I'll tell you what. It wasn't as
Speaker 1: big a deal in nineteen sixty. But you know, if
Speaker 1: you think of probably the most the most important inductee
Speaker 1: into the history of the Hall of Fame, it is
Speaker 1: George Hallis. You know, so that's a just I you know,
Speaker 1: I was sitting there and I was just was curious. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is, that was obviously the first year of
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It'd be like if
Speaker 1: you started something today and said, yeah, we're going to
Speaker 1: give an award to somebody, and you know, it didn't
Speaker 1: have the recognition that it has now. We didn't understand
Speaker 1: what the Pro Football Hall of Fame would come to
Speaker 1: represent at that point. So obviously if we did know,
Speaker 1: they would have arranged it so that Hellis would have
Speaker 1: been there and it would have been a much bigger
Speaker 1: deal in his life. Well, what he accomplished over the
Speaker 1: course to the rest of the time and what has
Speaker 1: happened since over these uh many years, is something else.
Speaker 1: And you guys captured it in great detail. As you
Speaker 1: continue to think about what you guys accomplished here what
Speaker 1: resonates with you about what you guys accomplished and putting
Speaker 1: this thing together. I think it's just to remind people
Speaker 1: of the different aspects that the Bears of football, that
Speaker 1: the Bears have touched throughout the years, and that's why
Speaker 1: we set it up in this structure. Nobody has rivalries
Speaker 1: like the Bears do. I mean, I had somebody who
Speaker 1: was reading it the other day and they read the
Speaker 1: whole I think they might have been a fan of
Speaker 1: that team up north, but you read the whole thing,
Speaker 1: which is fascinated by the by remembering some of these
Speaker 1: these old games, and nobody has the kind of the Bear.
Speaker 1: The Bears and the Cardinals are the oldest rivalry who
Speaker 1: have played the most games. The Bears and the Packers,
Speaker 1: who've played the second most games in the NFL, Bears
Speaker 1: and the Alliance. No, not everybody knows that. So I
Speaker 1: think just to remind people of the impact that the
Speaker 1: Bears have had and so many and so many aspects
Speaker 1: of the of the game. Well, and to Don's credit,
Speaker 1: with the rivalries, you know, we started out the book, uh,
Speaker 1: not even thinking of highlighting the rivalries, and as Don
Speaker 1: started digging with some of these things and looking at well,
Speaker 1: he said, you know, how can we ignore you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were going to write about the Bears and the packers, right,
Speaker 1: but then he said, well, how can we ignore the
Speaker 1: Bears and the giants, the Bears and the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: the Bears and the Redskins. Yeah, and you know, the
Speaker 1: section about the rivalries kept growing and growing and growing,
Speaker 1: and Don just kept digging further and further. Was there
Speaker 1: a lot left on the cutting room floor from the
Speaker 1: rival reach after then? Pretty much get it all in.
Speaker 1: We we got as much in as I think we
Speaker 1: we we wanted to. Uh. That was remarkable about the book,
Speaker 1: I think, and it's to the credit John Vaselli and
Speaker 1: the designer, and Mark Vansell, the producer, and Scott Hagel
Speaker 1: the Bears to be able to accommodate us, because I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. We kept asking how long do you want
Speaker 1: this story? How many pages is the book going to be?
Speaker 1: And it did seem to keep expanding, And for that, yeah,
Speaker 1: they hardly cut anything. We kept We kept waiting at
Speaker 1: the end to say, oh, yeah, half of your copies
Speaker 1: on the floor. But it didn't. It didn't happen that way.
Speaker 1: I mean so you did a lot, so not a
Speaker 1: lot was left out, no period. Absolutely, I mean, could
Speaker 1: we have done more. Absolutely. You know. One of the
Speaker 1: things we talked about early on that we didn't do
Speaker 1: was a chapter on the broadcasters, for instance. I thought
Speaker 1: that would have been fascinating. You know, you look at
Speaker 1: the history of the Bears broadcasters going back, I mean,
Speaker 1: got a couple of pretty good guys. Now, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you go back to the Wayne Larvy days. You know,
Speaker 1: Red Grange was broadcaster for the Bears for many men.
Speaker 1: You guys know the history probably better than house brick
Speaker 1: house and cups in it U George Connor for many years.
Speaker 1: So you know, that was something that we could have done.
Speaker 1: One of the things that we've we've thought about, I
Speaker 1: think since too. You know, we did the top one
Speaker 1: hundred players. We just did it in list for him.
Speaker 1: Chicago Tribune has done a very good job. I've thought
Speaker 1: of giving a biography of each player. That's something we
Speaker 1: could have. I mean, you know, there was you could
Speaker 1: have gone on and on. This book could have been
Speaker 1: an encyclopedia. I added up the words. Had we've done
Speaker 1: a biography of everybody, who would have been the eighty
Speaker 1: thousand words. We ended up with really hundred players, right,
Speaker 1: because you just wouldn't be throwing statistic you'd be digging
Speaker 1: to find out, okay, a little bit more about each
Speaker 1: because that's in your nature. Both of you guys are storytellers.
Speaker 1: That that could be, that could be a second a
Speaker 1: second printing. Maybe yuh, we know another way. We hope,
Speaker 1: we hope for a second printing up. Matt and Nagy said, yeah,
Speaker 1: if we do well, maybe he'll have an add endom.
Speaker 1: I said, no, Matt, it won't be at the end
Speaker 1: of the book. He'll be a new beginning. And you
Speaker 1: know that's a funny story. We might be, but we
Speaker 1: relate our deadline or soft deadline. Dan and I are
Speaker 1: not used to this, were used to deadlines every single day.
Speaker 1: But was in the middle of the last season. So
Speaker 1: a year ago in the summer, we looked around, we
Speaker 1: were talking and we said, what if the Bears go
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl? And everybody laughed. So they win
Speaker 1: the division and we emailed each other and say, hey,
Speaker 1: as we were saying what if they won the super Bowl?
Speaker 1: So we had to turn around and add stuff about
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen season, and I think we did a
Speaker 1: pretty good job of highlighting that twenty eighteen season. They're
Speaker 1: looking ahead, go ahead, And even some of the chapters
Speaker 1: we had written about the past, we found ways to
Speaker 1: kind of freshen them up or tie them into something
Speaker 1: that was happening current currently with the team, or a
Speaker 1: current player if there was a way to work that
Speaker 1: player in. But are you brought up, Maggie, because interests
Speaker 1: me is when you look at some of the other
Speaker 1: organizations around the NFL and have a shorter history of
Speaker 1: the Bears, they have an unbelievable amount of head coaches.
Speaker 1: The Bears don't have that many head coaches. Did you
Speaker 1: ever think about ranking the head the head coaches for
Speaker 1: the Bears? And if you did, is there an obvious
Speaker 1: number one? And if George Hallis is the obvious number one,
Speaker 1: who would be number two? What would be the obvious Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, obvious?
Speaker 1: N right? Uh, all right? Wasn't argument. Wasn't was Patty
Speaker 1: Driscoll because was he a good head coach? Or he
Speaker 1: was on a head coach for two years so he
Speaker 1: wouldn't have You know, the Hallis took three he retired
Speaker 1: three different times and appointed interim coaches. So after Hallis
Speaker 1: and Dicken and Lovey, it would have been pretty pretty
Speaker 1: tough to to get to ten. I think doesn't surprise
Speaker 1: you though, there's so few head coaches in the history
Speaker 1: well the Chicago Bear. When you have one guy that
Speaker 1: did forty of the hundred years and he hasn't been
Speaker 1: around for forty years, Yeah, it's it's probably not a surprising,
Speaker 1: you know, to think that they didn't have as many.
Speaker 1: You compare it to the Cardinals at the team across
Speaker 1: town and they they had probably more ex Bear head
Speaker 1: coaches than the Bears. Yeah, they kept tapping that well.
Speaker 1: Thirty seven and there they kept tapping that well. With
Speaker 1: Chicago ties to Dick McCann, Hall of Fame Award winning writers,
Speaker 1: Dan pomp pay Don Pearson our guest today as we
Speaker 1: look at the Bears Centennial scrapbook, take another break here
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Speaker 1: or watch anytime at Chicago bears dot com or on
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Speaker 1: pauls Arrange and producer Jordan Up, joined by our guests
Speaker 1: today kind enough to come in, Dan Pompey and Don Pearson,
Speaker 1: who authored the centennial scrapbook that is now available for purchase.
Speaker 1: Many have already been purchased, but you can check it
Speaker 1: out on Chicago bears dot com. That's the way to
Speaker 1: get it, and hopefully it's the only way to get it,
Speaker 1: the only way to get it, and get it your
Speaker 1: piece of Bears history. There's so much in there that
Speaker 1: you're going to enjoy from just the way these guys
Speaker 1: tell the story. It's not chronological, and we talked about that.
Speaker 1: I think that's a significant part of this book because
Speaker 1: you could easily have done it that way, but the
Speaker 1: way it's paired with the day to day historical impact
Speaker 1: of life in general and this world, I think ties
Speaker 1: it all together very nicely. And then you can type
Speaker 1: groups of players together very nicely, and I think that
Speaker 1: also played well in the actual one hundred year celebration
Speaker 1: in Rosemont in June when we had groups of players together.
Speaker 1: I was taken by a couple of things it happened
Speaker 1: there that and you can read the book to find
Speaker 1: out more about these guys. But well, when Eddie Jackson
Speaker 1: was sitting in the safety seminar as we had the
Speaker 1: round table of discussion we had with Doug Plank and
Speaker 1: Mike Brown, you know, is a young hip guy looking
Speaker 1: at these guys tell stories, and he was just he
Speaker 1: go it just kept looking like, wow, did that really
Speaker 1: have the Doug Plank hit people that way all the time,
Speaker 1: and Mike Brown's emotion, the tears. I mean that those
Speaker 1: are things that left an impression on a young guy
Speaker 1: like Eddie Jackson, you know. Jeff's what's interesting is the
Speaker 1: Bears have got all this great history, you know, hundred
Speaker 1: years of history. They've got more history than any more
Speaker 1: good history than any team in the NFL probably, and
Speaker 1: a lot of it's just kind of been forgotten about,
Speaker 1: right and this year, this book, uh, this celebration has
Speaker 1: been I think a great opportunity to go back into
Speaker 1: that history and to examine a lot of these things
Speaker 1: and to you know, wake up the echoes the past.
Speaker 1: It was really surprising to me. I guess it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be at my age. I actually got to talk to
Speaker 1: Red Grange. I didn't get I didn't cover him, but
Speaker 1: I did get to talk to him in his retirement
Speaker 1: in Florida, which is one of the highlights of my career.
Speaker 1: But it was astonishing to me how many people not
Speaker 1: only forgotten about the Red Grange Tour in nineteen twenty
Speaker 1: five and twenty six, they never knew about it at all.
Speaker 1: They didn't know it happened that this was one of
Speaker 1: the great things that got or one of the things
Speaker 1: that got pro football on the map because college football
Speaker 1: was where it was at. Pro football was sort of
Speaker 1: people looked down on pro football players and something that
Speaker 1: was sort of beneath the dignity of why do you
Speaker 1: think that is? Part of it was because you know,
Speaker 1: these these teams, including the Decatur Staley's, there were a
Speaker 1: lot of hard scrabble industrial teams. They they hired players
Speaker 1: that were still had college eligibility. In some cases they
Speaker 1: had high school players. He just didn't feel right right.
Speaker 1: It was just the or of college football was supposed
Speaker 1: to be pure, and you know, Alma Mater that sort
Speaker 1: of isn't that one of the elements. George Hallis didn't
Speaker 1: want anybody to sign a player until after their college
Speaker 1: eligibility was up, and it was probably one of the
Speaker 1: things that college coaches of this era would agree with
Speaker 1: with George Hallis from the beginning. Yeah, that was one
Speaker 1: of it. He said, that was one of his protest
Speaker 1: accomplishments after the Red Grange, after they did sign Red
Speaker 1: Grange after his eligibility was done. But that being said,
Speaker 1: he did end up signing a guy actually from Notre
Speaker 1: Dame Tom who we got kicked out of school for
Speaker 1: being married. So he got kicked off the team and
Speaker 1: Hallis signed him and Hallis got fined. He said, well, women,
Speaker 1: he got kicked off the team and they said no,
Speaker 1: he's supposed to graduating, and Hollis said, okay, then find me.
Speaker 1: So he agreed with the concept. He was always pretty
Speaker 1: good about pushing that maybe instituting a rule and finding
Speaker 1: your way to get around it. Well, you know, it
Speaker 1: kind of goes back when I signed in the USFL
Speaker 1: and George Allen was my head coach. He said, look,
Speaker 1: don't say anything until the day we announce you, because
Speaker 1: we want to make a splash in the NFL. So
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of George Hallis rubbing off
Speaker 1: on George Allen when I went through the same process,
Speaker 1: No doubt. I think a lot of hellis rubbed off
Speaker 1: on a lot of people. Yeah, I tell you first
Speaker 1: lady the National Football League, Virginia McCaskey. You guys, A
Speaker 1: big reason this book is as in depth as it
Speaker 1: is because you have an unbelievable resource right there, and
Speaker 1: we've talked about her and her ability to reflect and
Speaker 1: do so accurately with wit and sharpness. I mean, how
Speaker 1: great was that sit down with her? Well, I think
Speaker 1: that that's the main reason the book is really unique.
Speaker 1: I think we didn't unearth any new ground and find
Speaker 1: out that the Bears have actually won ten championships instead
Speaker 1: of nine or anything like that. We didn't. All of
Speaker 1: this history has been reported before. We put it in
Speaker 1: a different context of different structure. But the thing that
Speaker 1: really was different is to have a Virginia Hallis mccaskey's
Speaker 1: voice throughout and to think that she was actually on
Speaker 1: the Red Grange tour when she was only three years old.
Speaker 1: She doesn't remember it, but she's been told about it
Speaker 1: and to have her voice throughout the book, probably more
Speaker 1: than she would like, but as much as we could
Speaker 1: get in there, I think makes the book very unique.
Speaker 1: You know. Going back to what I said at the
Speaker 1: top of the segment too, about how so much of
Speaker 1: the history has kind of been forgotten about. I think
Speaker 1: Don and I figured out as we've gone, as we
Speaker 1: went through the process that we had kind of forgotten
Speaker 1: about a lot of this stuff, and as we did
Speaker 1: our research and did our interviews, you know, we kind
Speaker 1: of had our memories jogged a little bit. The interesting
Speaker 1: thing is she had not forgotten any She remembered every
Speaker 1: bit of it. Well, I say, did you ever reintroduce
Speaker 1: or to who are player? Or a topic that maybe
Speaker 1: just rekindle the memory and her memory? Bank? Boy, we
Speaker 1: were talking once and I don't remember one time saying
Speaker 1: I completely forgot that or that really slipped my mind,
Speaker 1: did you now? The other were things that she didn't
Speaker 1: know about that it never knew about, because I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, her dad was a very secretive guy. He
Speaker 1: kept his family in the dark on a lot of issues.
Speaker 1: So there are a lot of things she didn't know about,
Speaker 1: but anything that she knew about, she remembered, for instance, Yeah,
Speaker 1: George Hellis, I think almost had two. There were two
Speaker 1: sides of George Hellis, two personalities. We asked her about
Speaker 1: his salty language, you know, which he is well known for,
Speaker 1: and she said, well, he never spoke that way around
Speaker 1: the house. He had one way of speaking at work
Speaker 1: in another way of speaking at home. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of how I think he treated a lot of things
Speaker 1: with his business. He separated the business from the home life.
Speaker 1: Would you learn about her love of the game, well,
Speaker 1: you I think you saw at the Bear's convention when
Speaker 1: they asked her about memories of her dad. It's it's
Speaker 1: hard for her to put into words what her love
Speaker 1: of the game means to her and her family. I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of a lot of sports teams talk
Speaker 1: about a family atmosphere or keeping it in the family.
Speaker 1: The Bears I think are probably the most sincerely legit
Speaker 1: have the most sincerely legitimate claim to be in a
Speaker 1: family organization. It was difficult for her to express I
Speaker 1: think how important it was. Although you know she said, hey, money,
Speaker 1: what did she say money? What would money mean? Means nothing?
Speaker 1: It's the legacy soul. I would you agree, Dan, I
Speaker 1: think I think the Bears to her, that's her life,
Speaker 1: that's her. That's yet, it's her, it's her mark. But
Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, the other thing that I
Speaker 1: wasn't aware of is that for many many years, I
Speaker 1: think until the time her father stopped coaching, after every
Speaker 1: time the Bears lost, she cried. She would cry after
Speaker 1: every game ever, every loss. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: think she does it much anymore. But you guys probably
Speaker 1: have witnessed a few times. I'll bet well you know
Speaker 1: I have not witnessed tears. But you know what the
Speaker 1: loss meant. You could see it on her face because
Speaker 1: you get on the team bus and you first place
Speaker 1: you go to with her when they win or lose,
Speaker 1: and you can it's it's it's heartbreaking when they lose.
Speaker 1: When they win, big smile. That's that's the essence right there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, her seriousness has never lessened about the love
Speaker 1: of the game and the love of the Bears. And
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes the different family members that can have
Speaker 1: an effect on you, but not her. This is Bears
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Speaker 1: Radio six seventy to score kickoff the Bears one hundred
Speaker 1: season at the Middle Night Chicago Bears Black Party, Saturday,
Speaker 1: August thirty first in Logan Square. Open from noon to
Speaker 1: ten pm and free for all ages. Enjoy activities including food,
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Speaker 1: and more. This is the kickoff of the season that
Speaker 1: is a memorable one in National Football League history, certainly
Speaker 1: one for the Bears. They hope it's more memorable than
Speaker 1: just that ending in Miami with a Super Bowl win
Speaker 1: and appearance as this season begins, and these things like
Speaker 1: block parties, the kickoff a season, or a concert on
Speaker 1: Wednesday at Thursday Night before Thursday Night season opener. When
Speaker 1: you talk about the on page two seventy of the
Speaker 1: Bears Scrapbook, more than playing a game, they molded a sport,
Speaker 1: inventing positions and formations and strategies. So that was the
Speaker 1: building block. But now look what's been built, and look
Speaker 1: at the different aspects of things. You could even we
Speaker 1: just talked about it before we started the show tonight.
Speaker 1: Hard knocks all these elements if the man was sitting
Speaker 1: right here on this show with us and he saw
Speaker 1: all of this happening. We always talk about this. What
Speaker 1: would be going through his mind? George House, Well, I'm
Speaker 1: sure he'd be amazed. But the first thing he comes
Speaker 1: to my mind, he'd be thinking ahead. That's what he'd
Speaker 1: be doing. He wouldn't be looking behind and saying, look
Speaker 1: what we've done. Because I remember when he when he
Speaker 1: talked about the advent of television, and he couldn't couldn't
Speaker 1: believe that at first the networker probably wasn't a network,
Speaker 1: but the TV would pay the Bears would pay the Bears,
Speaker 1: and he said, I can't believe they're what they're paying
Speaker 1: us to do this, you know. But but he worried
Speaker 1: about the impact that that television would have on the gate,
Speaker 1: for example, so he was always looking ahead. It didn't
Speaker 1: affect the gate. It me from time to time, depending
Speaker 1: on the city you're talking about, but it did allow
Speaker 1: for almost all of this. When you think about it,
Speaker 1: the TV money is is critical. Another thing I think
Speaker 1: he would he would be concerned about as the Bears
Speaker 1: are and all the National Football League is the future
Speaker 1: of this board. As far as safety is concerned. I
Speaker 1: think he would take it very seriously. He would probably
Speaker 1: be at as his daughter is, at the forefront of
Speaker 1: a looking at the concussion issue, and I think Allis
Speaker 1: would have been right there. You know, with George Hallis
Speaker 1: chapter five, you said what makes a bear? If he
Speaker 1: was sitting here and he said, this is my definition
Speaker 1: of what makes a bear. From the conclusion that you
Speaker 1: guys came up with is what makes a Bear different
Speaker 1: than what makes any player from any other team. I
Speaker 1: think so, I really do. I think there's something unique
Speaker 1: and special about being a Chicago Bear, and I think
Speaker 1: you can define it by looking at the great players
Speaker 1: in history, which is what we tried to do in
Speaker 1: that in that chapter you're referring to, I think so
Speaker 1: many of them brought something that was special and unique
Speaker 1: in defining I mean, you were a Miami Dolphin, tom Right,
Speaker 1: what was different about being in Chicago Bear? There's only
Speaker 1: one important guy in Miami and everybody in Chicago. When
Speaker 1: I was playing for the Bears, everybody was equally as important.
Speaker 1: In Miami, it was one guy and that was Dan Marino.
Speaker 1: What about the history, I mean, did you feel the
Speaker 1: history and the you know, the lineage, the you know,
Speaker 1: the baton being passed from year to year and generation generation.
Speaker 1: The only history I felt when I was down there
Speaker 1: was how often they talked about them beating the Bears
Speaker 1: in eighty five, and it was it was there that
Speaker 1: was their biggest victory other than probably the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: win of seventy two when they finished their undefeated season.
Speaker 1: It was that was the one benchmark that they had
Speaker 1: up to that point, that was the most important win.
Speaker 1: And there and there, I'm saying, when you were a Bear,
Speaker 1: did you feel those things that the tradition and the
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, but you know it too
Speaker 1: is you know, grown up here, you kind of grew
Speaker 1: up with the tradition because you never had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to change of the channel and watch a different game.
Speaker 1: You were going to watch the Bears no matter if
Speaker 1: they were good or bad. So I think that's what
Speaker 1: built the tradition of the Bears, is when you were
Speaker 1: a Bears fan, you were a Bears fan for life.
Speaker 1: I think because George Hallis was around for that long.
Speaker 1: The thread that goes through the time of the founding
Speaker 1: and the two way players and all the championships and
Speaker 1: the monsters of the midway right up until the modern
Speaker 1: day because of Dicka's influence. Is the toughness. The two
Speaker 1: way players were tough though they have this defensive mentality.
Speaker 1: They've always had this defensive mentality. And I think that
Speaker 1: toughness is what I know. Every national football is tough,
Speaker 1: but and would say that we're everybody. Every football player
Speaker 1: by definition has to be tough. But I think the
Speaker 1: Bears have that that there's something about the Bears and
Speaker 1: their their their history that uh underscores that. And eighty
Speaker 1: two you said there was a reporter that asked Allie
Speaker 1: if he was crazy for hiring did no see now, see, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't want I didn't want to say that word.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just looked at that on the
Speaker 1: front page. He was on the front page. See who
Speaker 1: was the reporter and was it a well was it
Speaker 1: a well respected reporter? That he was a very well
Speaker 1: respected reporter named Bill Gleason, and he George Allis didn't
Speaker 1: get along at all. Gleason was a Cardinal fan, but
Speaker 1: he knew about the Bears. He covered the Bears, and
Speaker 1: it was a sincere question. And he wasn't the only
Speaker 1: one thinking it because when when he hired did get
Speaker 1: People thought, what is he hiring a special teams coach
Speaker 1: who's never had any head coaching experience, and he'd and
Speaker 1: plus Alice, had you surp Jim Fink's power at the time,
Speaker 1: and and had fired Neil Armstrong and and hired all
Speaker 1: on his own. It was actually a very legitimate question.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was at the time we were The
Speaker 1: rest of us is probably afraid to ask, what did
Speaker 1: did you guys know the personality of Mike Ditka before
Speaker 1: he came here as a head coach? Did you know
Speaker 1: like that that's the way he was going to represent himself.
Speaker 1: We'd seen him throw a lot of clipboards down in Dallas, Right,
Speaker 1: that's what you mean. I would say, you know, the
Speaker 1: hiring of Mike Ditka and eighty two and then maybe
Speaker 1: you agree or disagree with this probably was perceived similarly
Speaker 1: to the hiring of Kingsbury in Arizona this year. Everyone thought,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You know, why are you hiring
Speaker 1: that guy? Everyone around the league, uh, you recall similarly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I don't think there. I don't remember anybody in
Speaker 1: the league saying, oh, I you know, that doesn't surprise
Speaker 1: me that he would hire Mike Ditka. People say, oh boy,
Speaker 1: what's he got? What's he gotten himself in for? Well,
Speaker 1: he knew, he knew what he was getting himself in for.
Speaker 1: Don Pearson, Dam Pompei. Our guests here on Bear's Hall Access.
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Speaker 1: Radio six seventy to score back to the toughness thing,
Speaker 1: because that's something that the family wants this organization to
Speaker 1: play with a toughness, and it is all through its history,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, the first person you're gonna think
Speaker 1: of as tough as obviously Dick Butkus, you're gonna remember
Speaker 1: Walter Payton, and whether it's the young people now knowing
Speaker 1: about them because they can punch it up on YouTube
Speaker 1: if they never got to see him play. But if
Speaker 1: you go deeper into it, you guys wrote about Ed
Speaker 1: Sprinkle called the meanest man in Pro football by Kyler's
Speaker 1: Magazine in nineteen fifty. So it's way back there too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know there's others that we can talk about.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it would go back to Joe Atkins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'd go back to George Trafton and these guys that
Speaker 1: that that played. Uh you know, but the Bears had
Speaker 1: the last guy that played without a helmet, Dick Plasman,
Speaker 1: and he ran into the wall at Rigular Field one
Speaker 1: time and Virginia mccaski was there and they carted him
Speaker 1: out and Virginia said, I thought he was dead, and
Speaker 1: he went to the hospital. And he went to the
Speaker 1: hospital and came back and played the later in the season.
Speaker 1: May ended up. You know, he played without a helmet.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many guys. So is it any surprise
Speaker 1: to you that the last guy in the National Football
Speaker 1: League to play without a helmet is a Bear? You know?
Speaker 1: I thought thet thee hundred years celebration, the the seminar
Speaker 1: that you guys did with the defensive lineman was really
Speaker 1: interesting too when you talk about this toughness and how
Speaker 1: it's uh kind of woven into the fabric of being
Speaker 1: a bear. You know. So you had a Keen Hicks there,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's learning things from guys of previous generations,
Speaker 1: and they learned things from previous It went all the
Speaker 1: way back. The oldest guy there was was at o'bradovich,
Speaker 1: and you know, he obviously befriended Hampton and McMichael during
Speaker 1: their playing days, and even before that, you know Jim Osborn,
Speaker 1: and I mean every generation has another guy who kind
Speaker 1: of takes the baton and to the next and he does.
Speaker 1: He is now free to play with the ferocity of
Speaker 1: which he does even in practice. And that's a treat
Speaker 1: for a Bears fan to watch. And it's only going
Speaker 1: to get better as they continue to keep on climbing
Speaker 1: this mountain trying to get to the super Bowl here
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. This is brought to you by IGS
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Speaker 1: Bears All Access Joniac There, Pompey and Pierson with you
Speaker 1: coming back after this break. One more segment to go
Speaker 1: here on Bears All Access this evening with Tom There.
Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Joniac Dam Pompey and Don Pierson, the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame writers that put together the Centennial scrap Book,
Speaker 1: a book that includes a piece of Bears history when
Speaker 1: you buy it, and authentic Bears one hundred uniform patch.
Speaker 1: It's embedded in the front cover. It's a good looking book.
Speaker 1: The dust jacket also doubles as a fold out poster.
Speaker 1: There's a clear pocket in the back you can add
Speaker 1: your own piece of Bears history, and everybody's got it.
Speaker 1: Anytime you go anywhere, I've heard of a training cap. Hey,
Speaker 1: I've had tickets in my family for this many decades.
Speaker 1: This my my grandfather, you know, took me to my
Speaker 1: first game. It's all there. It is about family. This
Speaker 1: is a Bears family. Tom's family iddled buy that radio
Speaker 1: listening to our broadcasts, just as they did watching him
Speaker 1: at Soldier Field play for the Bears. H We can
Speaker 1: talk a lot about all the great players that you
Speaker 1: guys rank George Hollis as a player, What don't we
Speaker 1: know about him? If you if you didn't think he
Speaker 1: even played the game, and you only know of him
Speaker 1: as a coach or the owner, what about him as
Speaker 1: a player. Well, how many people remember he was the
Speaker 1: most Valuable Player in the Rose Bowl in nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 1: I did not know before he became I mean, he's
Speaker 1: the MVP in the Rose Bowl. He was playing for
Speaker 1: the for the the the Great Lakes team that played
Speaker 1: in a Rose Bowl during the First World War. So
Speaker 1: you know what kind of player he was before even
Speaker 1: became a Staley or a Bear. And the only thing
Speaker 1: he ever talked about himself as a player was when
Speaker 1: he recovered a fumble and ran ninety eight yards and
Speaker 1: Dorham Thorpe was chasing him. That's really the only time
Speaker 1: he bragged him about himself as a player. But he
Speaker 1: was a heck of a player, and of course a
Speaker 1: two way player and at end and I think he
Speaker 1: might be he might be on that top hundred players,
Speaker 1: the first end that we ranked, because the Bears don't
Speaker 1: have a stellar history of receivers. Yeah. I think the
Speaker 1: other thing to point out, too, is that he was
Speaker 1: all decade in the nineteen twenties, which which says something,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean that people don't even think of
Speaker 1: him as a player. You think of him strictly as
Speaker 1: a coach and as an owner and as an innovator.
Speaker 1: And he you know, he did so many things in
Speaker 1: that area that kind of overshadowed probably what he did
Speaker 1: as a player. But certainly that was a part of
Speaker 1: a town. That record for the ninety eight yard fumble
Speaker 1: return was one that stood for I believe something like
Speaker 1: fifty years. It was an incredible record and when you
Speaker 1: wonder where the toughness may have come from, that's something
Speaker 1: it goes without saying. I mean, he loved talking about
Speaker 1: the fights he would get in. He got into a knockdown,
Speaker 1: drag out fight with his best friend, Patty Driscoll. When
Speaker 1: Driscoll was planned for the Cardinals. You know, they had
Speaker 1: to separate him. So he was the first of the
Speaker 1: tough player. But you know that that's kind of the
Speaker 1: history of the toughness of the Bears. That kind of
Speaker 1: is related to your head coach and what they bring.
Speaker 1: You know, George Allis brought it to his era, Dicka
Speaker 1: brought it to our ear and you had it matched
Speaker 1: the toughness that he committed himself to in the league.
Speaker 1: And I think that's important for the history of the
Speaker 1: Bears is that George was the toughest guy around the league,
Speaker 1: and when you talk about the making of a Bear,
Speaker 1: you know, toughness always precluded what else you're going to
Speaker 1: say about him, as he needed a tough guy, just
Speaker 1: like Dicka did. And you remember Dan when Virginia McCaskey
Speaker 1: was talking about more recent history and the changes that
Speaker 1: she made or agreed to, and one of the things
Speaker 1: she said was that, you know, I that toughness was missing.
Speaker 1: She said, I thought the toughness was missing. So she's
Speaker 1: been very very aware of it from the beginning. Then
Speaker 1: then it had to be a good relationship between Finks
Speaker 1: and Ditka, I because Jim Finks, he's always you know,
Speaker 1: known as uh. It was a working relationship, but that's
Speaker 1: when I'm split. Yeah, but it had to be respectful
Speaker 1: because Jim Pinks was producing players that Ditka was able
Speaker 1: to coach in mold and eventually developed well. He had
Speaker 1: two drafts for Dick in the last two drafts eighty
Speaker 1: two eighty three. I think Jim Finks was he was
Speaker 1: loyal to the McCaskey family, and so he stuck around
Speaker 1: out of respect for the McCaskey family and really saved
Speaker 1: the Bears and the mccaskeys to agree. That saved the
Speaker 1: Bears because they were going down a rabbit hole there
Speaker 1: for a while until Jim Finks rescued him. Signed twenty
Speaker 1: starters that played, but it was crazy twenty. I mean
Speaker 1: they kind of, don't you think they both kind of
Speaker 1: had a hand in the development of the toughness because
Speaker 1: Dicka had a major influence on the players, but Finks
Speaker 1: was able to bring players that that kind of fell
Speaker 1: into the line of coach Dick or what he wanted
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I think that the record, the drafting record
Speaker 1: of Jim Finks and his scouts, Jim Palmer and Bill Tobin,
Speaker 1: as really unprecedented. During the draft. I mean, Halis, before
Speaker 1: the draft, you used to be able to sign just
Speaker 1: about anybody wanted to. But once she had the drafts,
Speaker 1: it was supposed to it was supposed to even things out.
Speaker 1: And at the early days of the draft, Halis still
Speaker 1: got the guys. You know, after they won the seventy
Speaker 1: three to nothing, they had like the third pick in
Speaker 1: the drafters I could pick in the draft three days later.
Speaker 1: I mean, he knew how to find players and tough players,
Speaker 1: and thinks no doubt that that string of draft choices
Speaker 1: that Finx made is really unprecedent. Would you worried about
Speaker 1: Walter Payton statue going up outside Soldier Field much like
Speaker 1: George Hollis number one on the list. Yeah, it's hard
Speaker 1: to say much about Walter that hasn't been said already
Speaker 1: because he meant so much to the team. I think
Speaker 1: one of the things that Down and I talked about
Speaker 1: was when we were putting together the list of the
Speaker 1: top one hundred Bears. I think we both kind of
Speaker 1: knew Walter would be number one, right, But we were
Speaker 1: looking for a little confirmation and uh, you know, we
Speaker 1: noted that Mike Ditka always said that Walter Payton was
Speaker 1: the greatest bear. And then we asked Virginia mccasky and
Speaker 1: she said the same thing. She said to me, Walter
Speaker 1: was number one. So I guess did you go one? Do?
Speaker 1: Did you go one to one hundred or one hundred
Speaker 1: to one? Oh? Great question? Uh one hundred, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was one. Yeah, and the top points for it as
Speaker 1: difficult as the bottom twenty five because we've said that
Speaker 1: of the hundred, we thought all hundred deserved to be
Speaker 1: on that list, but there are probably twenty other guys
Speaker 1: that deserved to be on that list too, did we
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta run. But did you keep rearranging? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a number, you stuck with it. No, we
Speaker 1: would probably change it again a lot if we could. Right,
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we only scratched the surface of the book. Clearly,
Speaker 1: it's uh cover to cover, it's it's beautiful, number one,
Speaker 1: great photos, great documents from scouting reports to all the
Speaker 1: difference stuff that min Hallis collected and her scrapbook, which
Speaker 1: was the genesis of this particular title of this book,
Speaker 1: the one under your scrap book History of the Chicago Bears,
Speaker 1: penned by the Hall of Fame author's Dan POMPEII and
Speaker 1: Don Pearson. Thanks so much for joining us. We could
Speaker 1: have spent a few more hours talking about all the
Speaker 1: great history and Bears history. Appreciate it. Thank you, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Our pleasure got to say condolences to the family a
Speaker 1: Daryl Drake, Bears Wide Receivers coach for nine years here.
Speaker 1: He was great to all of us, great to me.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you how many stories late at night
Speaker 1: here in this building over coffee I had with that
Speaker 1: man passed away just a couple of days ago. Current
Speaker 1: Steelers wide Receivers coach condolences that Darryl Drake, four time
Speaker 1: fair Paul's Oranger engineer, and Jordan Tredup. And for Don
Speaker 1: and Dan, I'm Jeff Joniac. That'll do it for us
Speaker 1: tonight on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score. Thanks
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