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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon, Steeler Nation, and welcome back to the campus

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<v Speaker 2>of Saint Vincent College. Here for another edition of the

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<v Speaker 2>Drive on your twenty four to seven home of the

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<v Speaker 2>Black and Gold West Shielder. Matt Williamson, we are with

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<v Speaker 2>you for three hours as always as we will put

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<v Speaker 2>a bow on the day's operations were Matt. Once again,

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<v Speaker 2>Mother nature had her way and the boys had to

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<v Speaker 2>move inside to the new rec facility behind us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and from what I gather, I don't think these

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<v Speaker 3>are like trade secrets or anything. That it was more

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<v Speaker 3>of a walk through type pace and a little titan there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great new facility in all, but that's ninety

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<v Speaker 3>three guys in a note hundred yard field. And got

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<v Speaker 3>the impression that it was kind of a lighter, more

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<v Speaker 3>mental than physical type of workout.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there were some media people that were allowing didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we we did not, but a couple of the

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<v Speaker 2>media people were allowed in. But I don't think they

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<v Speaker 2>really get there that I should say. They all kind

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<v Speaker 2>of echoed that same sentence that you just had. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a fifty we we finally we figured out some some

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<v Speaker 2>things that we had been wondering. It's a fifty yard

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<v Speaker 2>field with the two end zones, so it's so seventy

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<v Speaker 2>in total, but a fifty yard field plus the end zones,

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<v Speaker 2>which you can have a field better than you know,

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<v Speaker 2>better than certainly the small gymnasium across the way, but

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<v Speaker 2>still going to a handcuff you a little bit in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of what you can accomplish.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, especially with that many bodies too. It'd be

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<v Speaker 3>different even if there was fifty three guys. But I

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<v Speaker 3>mean you almost have doubled that, so, yeah, you could

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<v Speaker 3>break up in the groups and do some things. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it was just walk through walk through,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think there was a lot of that pace

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<v Speaker 3>to it from what I've asked three or four people

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<v Speaker 3>that were there, and frankly, I mean it's not again

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<v Speaker 3>not a huge secret, but they're like, you didn't miss

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<v Speaker 3>a whole lot as a spectator, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. One thing that I did want to follow up

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<v Speaker 2>with you, Matt, speaking of kind of procedural things, you

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<v Speaker 2>and I yesterday had kind of hypothesized what happens when

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<v Speaker 2>an NFL team during training camp has to pause because

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<v Speaker 2>of weather. Yeah, yeah, and then move to a different location. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And we talked about like, does the clock keep running

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<v Speaker 2>if you have one hundred and ten minutes, can you

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<v Speaker 2>stop that time to move your location or is it

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as the clock is running, once the sand

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<v Speaker 2>is through the hour glass, right, it's all gone and

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<v Speaker 2>practice is over. I asked our buddy Jerry Dulac last

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<v Speaker 2>night and he said, you do have the ability to pause.

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<v Speaker 2>So when the Steelers, not that it takes them very long.

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<v Speaker 2>They're fortunate here, but still, but that could be ten

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen, twenty minutes to get everybody moved, to get

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<v Speaker 2>everybody reset and in the new place, and all the

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<v Speaker 2>equipment and different things that you need. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>you are able to stop that time so which help

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<v Speaker 2>help them out here a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little bit, which I'm sure you had mentioned this earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm glad we brought it up because we left

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<v Speaker 3>some people hanging on that. And when you told me

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<v Speaker 3>that you found the answer out last night you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, we should have just assumed that, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, like, because there have been times they

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<v Speaker 3>paused here and went to the south side, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why there, because it wouldn't make much sense if

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<v Speaker 2>they paused here and then drove sixty minutes away, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and could only get twenty more minutes of practice.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you only get you know, one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ten minutes of practice like the early ones were,

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<v Speaker 3>and you even have to just go to the facility

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<v Speaker 3>that you can basically throw a frisbee too. From here,

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<v Speaker 3>you're still gonna waste fifteen minutes of transporting people and

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<v Speaker 3>then walking down and getting regrouped out of one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ten minutes or whatever. Of course that has to

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<v Speaker 3>be the rule, but I guess the next step is

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<v Speaker 3>I assume it's just sort of an honor system, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Jerry made it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, yeah, you know, like yeah, yes, we had

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<v Speaker 3>to pause fifteen minutes because of rain or we had

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<v Speaker 3>to get undercover or whatever. Then we resumed at one

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<v Speaker 3>o three or you know, right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're if you're two or three or four or

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes off, okay, so it once now if you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to steal half an hour here and there, and

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<v Speaker 2>then that's when we.

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<v Speaker 3>Kept them six pm because we had that delay like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, ain't a twenty minute delay does not give you

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<v Speaker 2>two extra hours of practice. So little housekeeping from us, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>some conversation that we don't leave.

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<v Speaker 3>You hang on that Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that I noticed today that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>run by you. And again it's been it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>little tough sledding for us this week because Monday we

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<v Speaker 2>got to see about thirty minutes of practice, maybe at

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<v Speaker 2>forty minutes of practice, but a nice chunk of that

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<v Speaker 2>was just stretching and warming up. Anyways, and then today

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<v Speaker 2>not being able to see any I did we will

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<v Speaker 2>do some bigger picture stuff today and I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of a good just little reset here in

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<v Speaker 2>some ways. Ben's yeah, Ben sol Lack of ESPN dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>who who you and I like? Visited Steelers camp a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days ago and he kind of uh talked

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<v Speaker 2>to some people, had some conversations, did some observations, and

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<v Speaker 2>outlined what he learned, what he took took away some

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<v Speaker 2>other kind of key points from his time here in Latrobe.

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<v Speaker 2>So best thing he saw and heard is that the

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<v Speaker 2>defensive line is a preposterously deep unit.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows about Cam Hayward, you know, as he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of writes here, but Keanu Benton on a contract year

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<v Speaker 2>really you know, looking to put his best foot forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Derek Harmon had a good first season, looking to build

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<v Speaker 2>on that. Y A Black he set is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the largest people in the league, and.

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<v Speaker 3>He loves the.

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<v Speaker 2>And he loves the veteran edition of Sebastian Joseph Day.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, this could be, uh, he could be the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the the nose tackle, uh that Pittsburgh needs

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<v Speaker 2>him and him and y A Black and what that

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<v Speaker 2>will allow the guys to do. And then he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you kind of factor in the edge

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<v Speaker 2>room along with that deep.

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<v Speaker 3>I was wondering if he was to go there because

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<v Speaker 3>I think he should. Yeah, like the whole defensive front, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>That you know that he thinks that that is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be just such a strength of this team. He's

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<v Speaker 2>excited to see how new defensive coordinator Patrick Graham is

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<v Speaker 2>going to you know, move some guys around and try

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<v Speaker 2>some different concepts. But just a defensive line in an

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<v Speaker 2>edge group that has really high end talent and some

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<v Speaker 2>really quality depth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's also got age and youth and everything

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<v Speaker 3>in between, some dudes that are in their prime leadership.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of money and draft picks invested, and

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<v Speaker 3>you better get that out of that group. But I

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<v Speaker 3>also think it's really noteworthy that the new defensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Graham has made no bones about saying he thinks

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<v Speaker 3>defense starts up front. He's spending obviously a ton of

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<v Speaker 3>time with the big people as well in the hands

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<v Speaker 3>on fashion as well as designing blitzes and stunts and

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<v Speaker 3>simulator pressures and all that kind of stuff too. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think you'll see their responsibilities and duties change from

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<v Speaker 3>last year. But I also think it's a better group

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<v Speaker 3>than last year, just because similar. But yeah, you throw

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<v Speaker 3>Joseph Day in the mix, I think is a really

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<v Speaker 3>nice addition that you didn't need, but you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a great way to state it. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hey, if we all know at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Cam Heyward is not going to be at

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<v Speaker 2>the absolute height of his powers, that's just that's just

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<v Speaker 2>mother nature and father times when not if all those

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<v Speaker 2>in all those things. But I think if even if

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<v Speaker 2>Cam is a nine eighty five percent of the player

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<v Speaker 2>that he was last year, if all those other young

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<v Speaker 2>guys around him take a noticeable step forward, and Benton

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<v Speaker 2>and Harmony a black and you get solid contributions from

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<v Speaker 2>Sebastian Joseph Day, I think that that group could very

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<v Speaker 2>easily be clearly improved from a unit that was solid

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<v Speaker 2>last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and frankly, I'll even i'mluck you hard time, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be shocked if Cam is only eighty five percent

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<v Speaker 3>of last year. Yeah, I mean, like my hunches, he'll

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<v Speaker 3>have another good year reconsider as his career. And if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna be great, I'm just gonna hang it up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, And one day I'm just not gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>playing anymore. As opposed to he's you know, at the

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<v Speaker 3>and not looking like the player he could be. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of this really goes back to

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<v Speaker 3>you know that this is a plan of the front office.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Omar and the whole organization saying Cam, we

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<v Speaker 3>love you, but you we do not. You must mean

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<v Speaker 3>to say, can't be the defensive tackle. It plays the

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<v Speaker 3>most snaps in the league. Again, I mean, what do

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<v Speaker 3>we I mean, you're begging for trouble, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>you're really good for it, right, I mean like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe he's not on borrowed time, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean you have to push your luck to that degree.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, let's get him to be Let's just drop

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<v Speaker 3>his snapcount by one hundred or two hundred, and then

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<v Speaker 3>all this rolls into place. Maybe your fourth quarter defense

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<v Speaker 3>isn't the worst in the league, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's stay fresh for seventeen plus games. Let's stay fresh

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<v Speaker 3>for sixty plus minutes. Because we know where things were

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<v Speaker 3>falling apart. It's late in games and late in the

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<v Speaker 3>season against tom competition over the years. So how do

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<v Speaker 3>we avoid that Sebastian Joseph Day, you know, move him

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<v Speaker 3>all over, come in and play forty snaps, but we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get out of anybody last year, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's a plan, and you deal with injuries better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's it's absolutely I think a solid plan.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way you outline it there. It makes a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of sense, and you're right, it's just you can

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<v Speaker 2>almost sometimes with these guys, I think, especially when they

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<v Speaker 2>get to Cam. Heyward's age less can be more.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to be.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be. Yeah, uh, And I think we

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<v Speaker 2>see that with some veteran guys around the league, And Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's amazing what you got out of Cam last year,

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<v Speaker 2>the level that he played at, the amount of snaps

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<v Speaker 2>and just consistent health that he had across the board

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<v Speaker 2>last season.

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<v Speaker 3>You're tempting faith, but you better know you.

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<v Speaker 2>Better not be banking on that every single year and

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<v Speaker 2>counting on running them back.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing you've gotten this much out of them, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's amazing you could even consider doing it again. It's

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<v Speaker 3>really because he did it to him. It's amazing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's simply incredible. The ironman, the toughness, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think he's the problem in the fourth quarters by any means,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I wish they all played like Cam Hayward

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<v Speaker 3>in the fourth quarter of the eleven that are out there.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, he is human, you think, But man, you

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<v Speaker 3>do not want to just keep testing and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>just keep eating eating innings and expect you to mow

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<v Speaker 3>everyone down with fastballs. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>He has also in here Ben Solac's breakdown of what

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<v Speaker 2>he learned at Pittsburgh Steelers camp on ESPN dot com

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<v Speaker 2>one fantasy football nugget. In his breakdown here too, Matt

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<v Speaker 2>He says, I can't get a lean on Jalen Warren

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<v Speaker 2>and Rico Dowdell, but I'm confident both will be used

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<v Speaker 2>enough to be playable in any given week. Dado is

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<v Speaker 2>a more than capable receiving back, and I think he'll

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<v Speaker 2>bite into Warren's catches more than most people might realize.

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<v Speaker 2>Warren is a spectacular tackle breaker, and I think he'll

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<v Speaker 2>bite into Dowdel's carries more than most people realize. The

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers will have to be a run heavy team is

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<v Speaker 2>they will need a strong play action game to get

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<v Speaker 2>any explosives.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally get that, uh, And I get the hunch just

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<v Speaker 3>chatting with people, no one's like divulged house secrets or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think the Warren Doubtle combination will be

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<v Speaker 3>less situational than the gain Well situation or Nause's the

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<v Speaker 3>early down guy. Warren's third downs, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that they're gonna be semi hot handish, you know, first

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<v Speaker 3>and ten, just take this series and if you get.

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<v Speaker 2>It, pick up a six yard run on first.

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<v Speaker 3>Down, or if you're gassed, don't be afraid to come

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<v Speaker 3>out because I'll get your right back in. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I got another suitable dude here. That they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>somewhat interchangeable. Well, the only thing I'll differ from what

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<v Speaker 3>I just said said though, is third and long, not

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily every third. I can't believe it will be doubtful

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<v Speaker 3>just because.

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<v Speaker 2>Of how much Warren excels and pass protection.

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<v Speaker 3>Come and catching the ball, I mean, as an more

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<v Speaker 3>just accomplished route runner, and he's better in protection. But

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<v Speaker 3>if everyone's healthy and it's everything's equal, although homework could

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<v Speaker 3>do a little bit of that too, he's good in

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<v Speaker 3>protection and he's a good third down guy. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming he's a maged team, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so too. But I also really want to

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<v Speaker 2>see what his uses looks like on Thursday when we

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<v Speaker 2>get into preseason, into that game of course against the

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay Packers. It's coming up a little over forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight hours from now at Akersure Stadium. Final.

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<v Speaker 3>Couple's happening to see this by the total coincidence, But

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<v Speaker 3>our buddy Tyler just sent us a tweet that Ben

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<v Speaker 3>Soley put out saying, and we could talk about it

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<v Speaker 3>or not, but I'm want to get back to his article,

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<v Speaker 3>like you mentioned, But you're a team with an aging

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<v Speaker 3>starter quarterback Steelers, Rams Jets, how much would you offer

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<v Speaker 3>for JJ McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I personally wouldn't offer much because I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't like him coming on a Michigan. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>aiming bigger. I mean right, I'd rather go after Anthony

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<v Speaker 3>Richardson then JJ McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>We will. There's no room for any of that though here,

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<v Speaker 3>Like what are you gonna do with another one? You're

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<v Speaker 3>having a hard time getting four and involved.

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<v Speaker 2>We will do some around the league stuff here in

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<v Speaker 2>this first hour. But yes, Kyler Murray named the starter

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<v Speaker 2>for the Kings today, which obviously they.

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<v Speaker 3>See I mean, that was just like, we don't even

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<v Speaker 3>have to fake it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was inevitable the day he signed the contract,

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<v Speaker 2>just they just needed some time to let it seem

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<v Speaker 2>like there was a process playing out. Other notes here

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<v Speaker 2>from Solac that he's his takeaways from Steelers camp. The

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<v Speaker 2>buzz in Pittsburgh is at thirty year receiver Roman Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>has rounded a corner and developed workable chemistry with Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how many snaps he will get behind

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<v Speaker 2>DK Metcalf and Michael Pittman junior, where you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>might even be one of the guys that they don't

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<v Speaker 2>want on the field in heavy, heavy run usage situations,

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<v Speaker 2>so he'll be probably relegated to more clear passing sets.

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<v Speaker 3>At this time, I assume Bernard would be the better

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<v Speaker 3>blocker even in his rookie year. I only say that

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<v Speaker 3>just because Bernard has not played a football game.

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<v Speaker 2>His next bullet point actually says that that he's better

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<v Speaker 2>on blocking assignments in some of the finer details during

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<v Speaker 2>eleven on eleven's.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Bernard, yes, I totally get that. Now you aren't

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<v Speaker 3>on a speaking to McCarthy, you're not on a Harbaugh

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<v Speaker 3>led Michigan team without doing something. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>just walk around out there in a heavy run team

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<v Speaker 3>when you're winning the national title. He's just not very

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<v Speaker 3>big or powerful, But I do think he'll stick his

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<v Speaker 3>nose in, he'll effort. And I also think what Ben

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mention here is they are going to play a

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<v Speaker 3>fair amount of twelve. I'm sure and neither one of

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<v Speaker 3>those guys will be out there in twelve, but it

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<v Speaker 3>looks like he's coming around. I'm starting to buy in.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of tight ends, Ben Solak asked Brian Angelico, who

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<v Speaker 2>of course was a tight ends coach for a long

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<v Speaker 2>time in the league, as if he has ever quote

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<v Speaker 2>if he has ever coached anyone like Darnell Washington, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said maybe just Josh Oliver would be the only

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<v Speaker 2>one similar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's smaller but still power.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, every bit of two hundred and eighty maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even two hundred and ninety pounds, And looking for him

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<v Speaker 2>to open things up in the play action passing game

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<v Speaker 2>this season. What Darnell watching and brings to the offense

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<v Speaker 2>cannot be understated in value for a quarterback like Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Rodgers who needs clean pockets to operate. At this point

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<v Speaker 2>in his career, having a tight end who is essentially

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<v Speaker 2>a sixth offensive lineman is particularly valuable.

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<v Speaker 3>Couldn't agree more. We've sung his praises forever. He's one

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorite Steelers. I think he's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most unique players in the league. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I often use these examples of and I'm not picking

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<v Speaker 3>on Connor Hayward, but when they would trust Connor Hayward

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<v Speaker 3>out there, I think the defense said thanks. I think

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<v Speaker 3>when you put Adam Thielen out there, Valdez Scantling, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of these guys that the offense says, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>That guy's not that hard to play against. Darnolt Washington

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<v Speaker 3>is not the best tight end in the league, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's one of the hardest to play against. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>sure matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Two more here from Ben Solack of ESPN dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>His takeaways from the Steelers so far is that FALTONU McCormick,

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<v Speaker 2>and Zach Fraser form about as good of a young

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line bedrock as you could find in this league.

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<v Speaker 2>And if Maxie Honatchorre can stay healthy and win the

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<v Speaker 2>right tackle job, Pittsburgh as something here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad he recognized that, you know, like, it's easy

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<v Speaker 3>for us to say we're excited about the young No

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<v Speaker 3>line and we've seen all the resources go in, but

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<v Speaker 3>I've gone out and said things to the extreme of

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<v Speaker 3>I would not trade this line for any other in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of investments going forward. Youth Now, you can maybe

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<v Speaker 3>convince me on one or two we could. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>Alton Slater are pretty nice pair of tackles and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>things like that. But for him to compare that, like

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<v Speaker 3>on a national level, to say that this could be

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<v Speaker 3>an enviable group compared to thirty one other teams, not

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<v Speaker 3>just oh, it's so much better than it used to

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<v Speaker 3>be when Moore was out there at left tackle and

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<v Speaker 3>guys like that. I think it's you know, spot on.

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<v Speaker 3>And Ben does get work.

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<v Speaker 2>He does. And then the last thing here from Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Solak is that basically, when you consider the size and

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<v Speaker 2>the physicality of the wide receivers, when you consider Darnel Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Fryarmouth and rookie fifth round of Riley Noah Kowski,

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers are really going to challenge teams that want

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<v Speaker 2>to play with light boxes and a nickel personnel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know that enough people have caught up

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<v Speaker 3>to this, but it seems to me, and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>an observation, but we've talked about a little bit. Almost

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<v Speaker 3>everyone that this team has added since Mike McCarthy took

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<v Speaker 3>the job has been a plus sized player. For the

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<v Speaker 3>two things that have really stood out to me is

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<v Speaker 3>size for the each respective position, Like I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>why they went doubt on not game well. And versatility.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, guys that can align. Pittman can align in

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<v Speaker 3>several locations. You know, Hoffman can play in a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of different spots. But almost everybody they've added is a

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<v Speaker 3>big person for their position, And boy is it going

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<v Speaker 3>to be obvious to anyone looking on when they tried

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<v Speaker 3>out Dowder or Warren, Friarmouth, Washington, Pittman and Metcalf who

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<v Speaker 3>that's one hundred pounds heavier than anyone else's. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as the as the offenses get smaller around

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<v Speaker 2>the league, defenses get smaller. Yeah, the defenses get smaller,

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<v Speaker 2>the offenses start to get bigger again, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Teams play nickel against that. I mean, I'd be real

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<v Speaker 3>careful with.

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<v Speaker 2>That if you're looking for a matchup card that you

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<v Speaker 2>can easily pinpoint at this point in the process with

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers, I think that would be high on the list,

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<v Speaker 2>very high on the list for this offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So there's a little bit of a breakdown from

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Solak, a national voice and name that Matt and

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<v Speaker 2>I think does really good work, and his observations from

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<v Speaker 2>being out here at Steelers camp a few days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get to our first break. Let's get to

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<v Speaker 2>some of that news around the league. What's going on

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota, A couple other injuries and extensions across the

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<v Speaker 2>league that we need to check in on as well

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<v Speaker 2>as we roll along here just getting started. Matt and

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<v Speaker 2>I are with you up until six o'clock for about

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<v Speaker 2>the next three hours as we put a bow on

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<v Speaker 2>today's proceedings and get you ready for the first preseason

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<v Speaker 2>Back on the campus here of Saint Vincent College, as

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<v Speaker 2>we've got some news of the day to get to here,

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<v Speaker 2>as we get going with the drive on this Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess still technically afternoon map. We're rolling towards the

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<v Speaker 2>evening and of course rolling towards that first preseason game

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<v Speaker 2>against the Packers on Thursday. Bigger Yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is a relatively big piece of news across

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL today. But you just heard Matt and I

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<v Speaker 2>mention it briefly there in the first segment. But according

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<v Speaker 2>to Adam Schefter and really just about every single NFL

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<v Speaker 2>national insider, the Vikings have named Kyler Murray there starting quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>That was pretty quick and probably the plan all along.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure now people might not know this entire background.

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<v Speaker 3>So they are paying Kyler Murray much like the Steelers

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<v Speaker 3>did Russell Wilson, like basically nothing league minimum million bucks

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<v Speaker 3>and Arizona's picking up the rest of the tab. But

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<v Speaker 3>he is a free agent after this year. They're renting

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<v Speaker 3>him at an unbelievable cost, controlled situation for one season.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they can extend them, they can franchise, and they

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<v Speaker 3>can you know they can, just like any other free

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<v Speaker 3>agent taking deal with them. McCarthy, who they drafted a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years ago, is basically been an utter failure.

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<v Speaker 3>But even though we both said the same thing, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't love him coming out of Michigan. You didn't love

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<v Speaker 3>them coming out of Michigan. He's been also dealta somewhat

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<v Speaker 3>unfair hand.

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<v Speaker 2>He's had injury issues. A lot going.

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<v Speaker 3>On, a lot of injury issues, and you get behind

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<v Speaker 3>the eight ball and the tomlinism of trying to hop

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<v Speaker 3>on a moving train, it gets really difficult. And by

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<v Speaker 3>no means could Minnesota just say, oh, we'll trust him

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<v Speaker 3>to be fine this year, because he's when he's been

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<v Speaker 3>on the field, he's been bad and he's unproven he's

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<v Speaker 3>young and blah blah blah blah blah. Now I do

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<v Speaker 3>think their head coach is masterful with quarterbacks. We saw

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<v Speaker 3>him get a ton out of Darnold, a ton out

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<v Speaker 3>of Cousins. I think he could might get a kind

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<v Speaker 3>out of Kyler. But one thing he did didn't do

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<v Speaker 3>any any favors for McCarthy was his degree of difficulties

0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.640
<v Speaker 3>of throws were really high. You know, now he's showing

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<v Speaker 3>to Justin Jefferson and that makes it better, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>driving the ball in the tight windows down the field.

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<v Speaker 3>There weren't a lot of layup throws for McCarthy. So

0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.720
<v Speaker 3>not only was he kind of swim I mean mentally

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<v Speaker 3>experienced injury wise, but he was asked to do tough

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<v Speaker 3>things too. And they had some O line injuries and

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:09.399
<v Speaker 3>didn't run the ball great. So I don't I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>even if I didn't love him coming out of school

0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:16.240
<v Speaker 3>McCarthy Richardson. Some of these dudes, by no means said

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<v Speaker 3>the league write them off. And it's only twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>years old still, which is wild, right, I mean, he

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<v Speaker 3>could turn into a Baker like level guy. I mean,

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:25.959
<v Speaker 3>I don't much sayings to be Burrow or Lamar or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe he lands somewhere, probably not Pittsburgh. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want Pittsburgh necessarily and revitalizes his career. But if you're

0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:37.479
<v Speaker 3>the Vikings, I'm sure you basically knew this, and Kyler

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<v Speaker 3>probably knew this when you signed the deal. You know

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<v Speaker 3>like that this is just not much competition. Say what

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:45.399
<v Speaker 3>you want about Kyler Murray. He's definitely a top twenty quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he's not quite worth the first overall pick, and

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<v Speaker 3>he is short, but he's had a lot of good

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<v Speaker 3>moments too. I mean, he's a good player.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a viable NFL ST Yeah, quarter I'm in at

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<v Speaker 2>worst where JJ McCarthy's still trying to carve that rollout.

0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.720
<v Speaker 2>He missed his entire rookie season with injury and then

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<v Speaker 2>started just ten games last year.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, and I think they had the worst quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>play in the league last year. You've stayed had Jets

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.880
<v Speaker 3>and Browns are in the conversation, but like from week

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<v Speaker 3>one to the day you're eliminated. No team was worse

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:17.879
<v Speaker 3>at quarter named Max Brosmer in there for two games,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, like if.

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<v Speaker 2>They just had maybe the eighteenth best quarterback play, they

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<v Speaker 2>would have probably made the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think they ended up nine to eight. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean they end a third place in that division. And

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<v Speaker 3>again I keep saying, if you can go from thirtieth

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<v Speaker 3>to twentieth that position, you're gonna be in the hunt, right.

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 2>For a couple more wins. It should be enough for

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 2>a couple more wins. So Kyler Murray will now be

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 2>the Vikings fourth different Week one starter over the last

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<v Speaker 2>four years.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, Siler fans know that's not a fun place today.

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 3>It is. No, it is not.

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.879
<v Speaker 2>We're finally running one back here again this year, baby,

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:52.359
<v Speaker 2>But it was JJ McCarthy last year, Sam Darnold in

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:56.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, and then Kirk Cousins in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>So Minnesota trying to solve that quarterback issue that Matt,

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:04.920
<v Speaker 2>as Matt just stated was an albatross an anchor around

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 2>their neck last year, and pretty early in this process,

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Kyler Murray named starting quarterback in Minnesota.

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm sure McCarthy would love the opportunity to go

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<v Speaker 3>elsewhere now, but I don't know that he's got the

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 3>gravitas to be like I'm demanding a trade, like.

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I would be shocked. He's played ten games in his

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<v Speaker 2>NFL career.

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<v Speaker 3>We have six round pick for him or something, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean at that point, and if you're the Vikes,

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<v Speaker 3>even if he's a long term backup, he might be

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 3>worth keeping around. I mean, if you would move him,

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<v Speaker 3>you got nothing on roster next year.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt. And listen, Kyler Murray is a guy who

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 2>in his own right is a little undersized. And oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, him playing seventeen games and staying healthy is

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<v Speaker 2>not guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 3>We might see McCarthy in week four, who knows, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that's probably Minnesota and Kevin O'Connell's message.

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<v Speaker 3>To him right now, be patient.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm sure, I'm sure you're disappointed, and we know

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<v Speaker 2>that you know the NFL career has not started for

0:24:57.920 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 2>you the way that you had hoped. But just be patient,

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<v Speaker 2>keep working because.

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 3>We'll work you like crazy in the preseasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Stories far from written, and you're you're gonna have another

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 2>opportunity at some point. Just get yourself ready.

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:09.439
<v Speaker 3>For That's the thing. He's gonna have another opportunity at

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<v Speaker 3>some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty three years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>As much as I am not a fan, in his

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<v Speaker 2>game at all, and I wouldn't.

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 3>He'll probably be a ten year player. Those first round

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 3>picks get opportunity after opportunity.

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Lookt Kenny Pickett, He's continuing to get opportunities and opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, JJ McCarthy's story far from written. Even

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<v Speaker 2>if Okay, let's let me ask you this then, Matt

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<v Speaker 2>hypothetical for you before we move on here. Say that

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the Steelers did not have Will Howard or Drew Aller.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that I'd be really interested in those guys.

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Say it was Aaron Rodgers, Mason Rudolph and a camp

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 2>insert camp Arm, Chris ol a Doken type name, and

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 2>you'd be interested in JJ McCarthy first.

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<v Speaker 3>Six round pick on the dollars right right, I'd prefer Richardson.

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's probably another name or two out there.

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:57.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't think Pennix would be on the move yet,

0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 3>but highly drafted first round dude from the last three years.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a believer and I want to take a bite

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:07.159
<v Speaker 3>that apple all the time. And like if the Rams

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 3>hadn't drafted Simpson, I'd go after one of those guys

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<v Speaker 3>on the cheap. You know, just there's been a lot

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 3>of recent success or a lot of recent showings of

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 3>highly drafted dudes like Darnold, even before he went to

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:25.160
<v Speaker 3>the Vikings basically sat a year with Shanahan and the Niners.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's where you go in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I.

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:31.439
<v Speaker 3>Mean, like Jameis Winston never came all around, but he

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 3>went and just sat with Sean Payton in the Saints,

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:36.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, behind breeze for a year or whatever it was.

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:38.919
<v Speaker 3>You know, like you go to the shop and you

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 3>get all your you get the loop job and the

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 3>oil job and new tires and get all the pressure

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<v Speaker 3>off your back and you just clearly the two even

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 3>if Josh Allen's in front of you, go there, you know,

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 3>and just sit for a year and learn exactly.

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 2>It got him another opportunity.

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, Mitch Bisky has had a very good career,

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 3>but he was second picking the draft and he's going

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.679
<v Speaker 3>to retire with twelve years of service under his belt

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 3>in some starts, you know.

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 2>In a nice sized bank account. Yes, Matt. Some other

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 2>notables today, weird kind of injury day, lot of injuries

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 2>popping up here across practices in the league today. Let's

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 2>start in our own division Raven's corner Nate Wiggins carted

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>off the field, I know, after what looked to be

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 2>a left leg or knee injury. Couldn't put any weight

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 2>on his left leg and had to kind of, you know,

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 2>do the drape his arms over the trainers to get

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 2>off the field and back into their facility. He's one

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.160
<v Speaker 2>of those guys that would be on the short list

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 2>of players that Baltimore canifford to lose.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this could be very bad news for them, so

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 3>they're this is a guy I liked a lot coming

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 3>out watching his rookie year. I don't think he played

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 3>all seventeen games. I want to say there's some injuries

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 3>involved there too. He's skinnier, but a really, really good athlete.

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.719
<v Speaker 3>Long I thought this guy could be a number one

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 3>quarterback someday, you know, like he I think this guy's

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 3>got immense potential and hasn't quite come around. And I

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 3>always hesitate, you know, camp reports, but the camp reports

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 3>were he's one of the best player of the camp.

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 3>And he's like the guy that would follow a metcalf,

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:13.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, if they were to follow somebody, he'd be

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.239
<v Speaker 3>their top corner for sure. He's way past Humphrey at

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 3>this point, and frankly, I think their secondary had a

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 3>chance after this offseason and be one of the best

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 3>in the league. Hamilton would be a bigger loss, but

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 3>that's about the going one in the secondary team close

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:27.679
<v Speaker 3>like this would be huge.

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 2>It's it's unfortunate for Baltimore. Yeah, and hey listen, far

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 2>from far from being a devastating blow just yet. They'll

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>have all the you know, all the checking into him

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 2>and his status and everything, but not what you want

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>to hear.

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 3>And you know, cart it off doesn't mean the same.

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that you always mentioned. Yes, absolutely. Saints defensive

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 2>end Cam Jordan could potentially miss the start of the

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 2>season with a hamstring injury. According to head coach Kellen Moore,

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>So a little bit of a bummer for him, with

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 2>his age and everything. I'm sure there'd be astra cautious,

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>but you as you and I kind of me. He's

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>another He's another nine sacks season away from really having

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 2>a strong Canton case, and so a big year for

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Cam Jordan. Hopefully he's able to stay stay healthy and

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 2>get out there and going at full speed. In September,

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 2>just about a month from now, the games get going. Also,

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Matt Rams wide receiver Pooka Nakua left practice with the

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 2>training staff about just twenty three minutes ago. Here Sean

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>McVay says, no update on his status for what happened,

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 2>So that's obviously still stay tuned on that very early,

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 2>but we do know that he left practice with the

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 2>training staff. Obviously, with all this stuff going on with

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 2>his contract negotiations and potential discipline from the off feels

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 2>right he had not the news that Pooka wanted.

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure no. I mean it goes out saying too.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, DeVante Adams a really good player, but like

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 3>we did a six pack on the Rams yesterday where

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 3>basically I just create like six concerns or topics and

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>offensive tackle and wide receiver are really thin. You know,

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 3>like the Rams look like a super team all that,

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 3>but Adams is declining, and you know, Nikua is the

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 3>every down work horse type and he would be they

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 3>may rather lose Miles Garrett, I mean just in terms

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 3>of how you can get by through the season. So

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 3>we really stay tuned on this. Like in the fantasy world,

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 3>he's either the second or third receiver off the board.

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we know that he's ridiculously productive, and Jamar

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Chase is the only one going ahead of him consistently,

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 3>so he's right there with JSN and he's on a

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 3>contract year, so hopefully for them and him, it's just

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, a scare. But you said, this just happened

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<v Speaker 3>like twenty.

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Just happened like twenty some minutes ago. So if there's

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 2>any other news, we'll obviously keep everybody posted. But that's

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of us some of the moving and shaking, and

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 2>again some big names there with some some injury designations

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>or at least some concerns in practice on this Tuesday

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>across the league.

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Matt Wiggins ones really to keep an.

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Eye on, I mean, especially for the Steelers.

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 3>That's what I mean, right, it's the it's the uh

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's.

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 2>That adage that we all know of, like we're never

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 2>going to sit here and root for our opponents to

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 2>get injured or anything like that. It's just bush league.

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>But we also aren't going to hide the fact that

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 2>that would have big ramifications for the Ravens, for the Steelers,

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>for all the AFC North and in Baltimore, potentially having

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 2>an injury to one of their key contributors on defense.

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:21.479
<v Speaker 3>Real quick with them. I'm almost certain Matta Bouquet is

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 3>dressing for every practice, doing things, but at a very

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 3>very slow pace. Like I don't think he's doing teamwork.

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's banging with centers and guards yet.

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 3>But there is a lot of cautious optimism around him.

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 3>But other than Hamilton Wiggins and Mattabuquet are as important

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 3>as any defensive player on that team.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 2>To not what you want to hear in early August

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 2>when there's still a lot of a lot of time

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 2>left in this season and in this process, and you

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 2>don't want to start losing guys this early along. That

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>is for sure for certain. West Ruler Matt Williamson. More

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting breakdown from Bill Barnwell, who Matt and I are

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<v Speaker 2>both fans of of ESPN dot com. You know we

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned the La rams there and Pukunakua leaving practice and

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<v Speaker 2>what is everyone just knows the proverbial the odds on

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<v Speaker 2>favorite to win the Super Bowl right now in LA

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<v Speaker 2>after as good as they were last year. Then they

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<v Speaker 2>add Trent McDuffie, Then they add Miles Garrett, They should

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<v Speaker 2>or could looking likely to potentially add Aaron Donald into

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<v Speaker 2>the fold as well. Understandably the favorite at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>And what Bill Barnwell did, Matt was he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>took the fifteen most significant favorites heading into a season

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL in the Super Bowl era. Ye, so

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<v Speaker 2>there's a couple one or two from the eighties, couple

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<v Speaker 2>from the nineties, and then the majority of them from

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty first century, also when this information was readily available.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and say, I know how long they've been charting

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<v Speaker 3>these things, But that's his problem, not mine.

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<v Speaker 2>But of the fifteenth fifteen teams that were the most

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<v Speaker 2>significant favorites to win a Super Bowl during the season,

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<v Speaker 2>how did that end up playing out for them?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Which is interesting because I'm sure it's like this

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<v Speaker 3>time of year you look at like all the rams

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<v Speaker 3>are really tough, but boy, it's a long year. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a tough division for them. In particular, the NFC has

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of options in pitfalls. And as we always say,

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<v Speaker 3>and we saw it in the last segment talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Pooka Nakua as monks and some other things around the league,

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<v Speaker 3>most of the stuff that happens to teams going forward

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<v Speaker 3>is bad. It just is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the nature of the beast, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And you mentioned this, you know, stealing your thunder a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. We were walking in and you mentioned this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this segment to some degree. So if you're

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<v Speaker 3>like a fifteen to twenty percent chance of winning the

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl, that's so high.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this year's Rams lead the league by a substantial margin.

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<v Speaker 2>Math they have a twelve and a half percent and

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<v Speaker 2>they're twelve and.

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<v Speaker 3>A half Okay, wow, I mean twenty's probably getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, twenty's about the highest that you you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of those Chiefs teams the past few years, coming

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<v Speaker 2>to the Tom Bradytriots teams, and then I think maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder, like the seventy eight if you go back

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<v Speaker 3>to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't back that far. But there are some of the

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<v Speaker 2>you've highlighted in the past. How for so long the

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<v Speaker 2>NFC championship.

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<v Speaker 3>Game, or if they Dallas Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>Niners and sometimes they met in the divisional round you

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<v Speaker 2>know earlier, that plays out on this list too. But

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<v Speaker 2>even those teams, Yeah, eighteen nineteen, twenty percent is very

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<v Speaker 2>very high end.

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<v Speaker 3>Like obviously, I don't think you need a mathematician to

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<v Speaker 3>say you always take the field over the champ. I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder if other sports are like that, Like do you

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<v Speaker 3>think the Jordan Bulls were like forty percent or the

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<v Speaker 3>Gretzky Oilers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I mean, some of those Yankees teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Right like still there's a lot of bad things, but

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<v Speaker 3>not like the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if Jordan stays healthy, they're gonna be in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they can play two bad games against the Jazz

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<v Speaker 2>and still win the series.

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<v Speaker 3>And six right right right, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So of the fifteen most significant favorites, Matt two won

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<v Speaker 2>the Super.

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl of fifteen yes, now okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now sick four others part of me lost the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>So six six of those fifteen little under half at

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<v Speaker 2>least went to the Super Bowls.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess, which is more than I would have guessed. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the other side of it, too is there's been

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<v Speaker 2>a few that just flat out missed the playoffs. Not many,

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<v Speaker 2>not many, but a couple. The two thousand and two

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<v Speaker 2>La Rams were one of those teams that had you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was kind of the greatest show on the turf,

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<v Speaker 2>greatest show on turf era there and that team, sorry

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<v Speaker 2>the two thousand because yeah, in two thousand and one

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<v Speaker 2>they had lost the Super Bowl to the Patriots. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the first of the of the Tom Brady, Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Belichick era Patriots. A lot of these are those Patriot teams.

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<v Speaker 3>The I would think the Patriots would be well represented.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the ninety eight Green Bay Packers who lost

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<v Speaker 2>to the Niners in the wild card round or on

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<v Speaker 2>this list. But pretty much all these teams Matt at

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<v Speaker 2>least made the playoffs. I think there were only like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I think the two thousand and eight New

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<v Speaker 2>England Patriots missed the playoffs. That was the year that

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Castle had to fill in for Tom Brady, so obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>but they.

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<v Speaker 3>Still were like fourteen and two they I know, they

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<v Speaker 3>just happened to lose tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Breakers, which is a nuts. They were eleven and five

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<v Speaker 2>that I just didn't have the tie breakers to make it.

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<v Speaker 2>They were one of the ones that missed the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>and then one of those Rams teams, but that was

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<v Speaker 2>the two thousand and two Rams after losing to the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl the previous year. So two of the fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>favorites won the super Bowl. Two of the fifteen favorites

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even make the playoffs at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember happened to the Rams scene that did

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<v Speaker 3>make the playoffs. But one of them lost the best

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback of all time. Yes, you know, but that's what

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<v Speaker 3>kept them out and barely kept them out. They were,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a tiebreaker away from going to the playoffs. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so this team. These teams basically almost always go to

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<v Speaker 3>the play.

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<v Speaker 2>These teams basically almost always go to the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 2>at least at least advanced to the divisional or championship weekend, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Half of them have at least gotten to the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 3>which again is way more than I expected, way more

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<v Speaker 3>than way as walk in here, I said, ah, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>one out of four makes the final game.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, about twelve and a half percent that for

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<v Speaker 2>them this year, Matt. By the way, where was the

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<v Speaker 2>number here? I just had? It is seven and a

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<v Speaker 2>half percent higher than anyone else in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is a ton. It doesn't sound like much, but

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<v Speaker 3>when you, I mean, even the Raiders probably have a

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<v Speaker 3>one percent, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You pretty much everybody does.

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<v Speaker 3>So that gets to a hundred pretty quick. When there's

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<v Speaker 3>thirty two teams, if one of them is almost if

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<v Speaker 3>number one on the list is almost double the Seahawks

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<v Speaker 3>or whoever's number two, and so, by the way, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not even the defending champs, it'd be kind of different

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<v Speaker 3>if it was. Like Boy, the Steelers have won three

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<v Speaker 3>of the last five Super Bowls. The only time it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't go was when they were so crushed by injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>I like their chances of going in you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>seventy nine seasons. Yes, they're pretty good. We've seen a

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<v Speaker 3>lot or even like the Chiefs with Mahomes, Like worst

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<v Speaker 3>season is hosting the l Championship.

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<v Speaker 2>And losing an overtime to Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 3>Like their chances. You know, that's not that shocking. But

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<v Speaker 3>the Rams didn't even go Super Bowl last year, right right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's one of the things that he puts a

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<v Speaker 2>potential you know, pitfalls. It's the schedules tough. The division

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<v Speaker 2>is maybe the best in the league. You've got Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl champion Seattle. Still, you know, the Rams in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five finished second in DVOA. The only problem is

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<v Speaker 2>that another team in their division finished first in DVOA.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's obviously a big thing to keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 2>And you speak, he was.

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<v Speaker 3>MVP, but he was also an older quarterback too. They

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<v Speaker 3>had this time last year. All we were talking about

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<v Speaker 3>is Mike staff or Matthew Stafford's neck is a huge problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Is even going to make it the week one? Yep?

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<v Speaker 3>Well he didn't. He won the MVP, but wow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the third So the first thing you mentioned is

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule difficulty. The third thing he mentions is the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback is at that age where he could always get

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<v Speaker 2>hurt take even just an unexpected half step backward backwards.

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<v Speaker 2>And then final angle is what if another super team emerges?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what if Caleb Williams goes full super nova

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<v Speaker 2>in year two under Ben Johnson. What if Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 2>plays at an MVP level. What if Jalen Hurts and

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<v Speaker 2>Saquon Barkley run it back? You know, because the NFC

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<v Speaker 2>does have some other contenders with some really talented rosters there.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was just kind of an interesting piggyback what

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<v Speaker 2>we were just talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we're up again. So last thing too, they

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<v Speaker 3>were horrible on special teams last year and McVeigh doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>put much stress in that.

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<v Speaker 2>If that gets to seventeen in the league, get a.

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<v Speaker 3>Kick blocked in the aftach area, goes the other way around,

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<v Speaker 3>right right right.

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<v Speaker 2>Hour in the books, two more hours to go. We

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<v Speaker 2>have got plenty of ground to cover here. As we

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<v Speaker 2>roll along, we'll start getting you ready for that preseason

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