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Speaker 1: Pats from the Past.

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Speaker 2: Tune in is Matt Smith and Paul Perillo offer in

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Speaker 2: depth interviews with some of the greatest players and coaches

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Speaker 2: in New England Patriots history.

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Speaker 1: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Talk name

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Speaker 1: Mike Rainbow.

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Speaker 2: And find out what led to some of the greatest

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Speaker 2: moments in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight.

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Speaker 1: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian

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Speaker 3: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number

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Speaker 3: one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 1: Good to be home. Good to see you guys.

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Speaker 2: Search for Pats from the Past anywhere you get your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 4: I want to lead off right away by saying, I'd

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Speaker 4: like you to be my life coach.

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Speaker 1: I got you, I got you.

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Speaker 4: I was so impressed with you, know, Fred, and I

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Speaker 4: sat here listening to the press conference. I was just

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Speaker 4: so impressed listening to you talk about the bond of

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Speaker 4: the offensive line in particular, and it's like everything that

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Speaker 4: went with it. You work with your kids. I just

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Speaker 4: I need you to take me under your man.

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Speaker 1: I still life is a revolving door man. You learn

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Speaker 1: as you go. Man. So it's no better feeling to

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Speaker 1: be able to give back to you know, your young

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Speaker 5: Now, we were talking about, like what's our favorite signing,

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Speaker 5: because it's not often the Patriots have had this amount

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Speaker 5: but not often. You're the unanimous vote, like you're our

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Speaker 5: favorite signing because you it seems to me that you

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Speaker 5: bring a level of maturity and experience that this team needs,

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Speaker 5: especially in offensive line. Later than Andrews is now gone.

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Speaker 5: You know you probably heard that he was the captain

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Speaker 5: michae on one, you was our most experienced guy.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty seven. By the way, I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: play beside Mike. Yeah. Yeah, oh oh, I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: And wait, I can't wait.

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Speaker 5: I wait, Frankly, Morgan, the line needs that leadership. Are

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Speaker 5: you ready for that? Are you willing to be that leader?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, man, my great great great

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Speaker 1: great great great great great great grandfather part of the

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Speaker 3: As now.

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Speaker 1: Whereas you're gonna sign on.

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Speaker 5: Now, that's good to know because I think we need that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, you come from the Jets and the Ravens

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Speaker 6: and that's the two.

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Speaker 1: Of the great rivals.

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Speaker 6: But the Patriots here, what was kind of impression of

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Speaker 6: these games as you were on the other side of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously, man, coming in here, it's not easy

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Speaker 1: you know, they are die hard. And obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you come to an organization has won so much,

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Speaker 1: you know, great coaches that came through here, great players.

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Speaker 1: You know, my son was teasing me earlier, he said,

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Speaker 1: I said, no, bro, I'm not that old man. I

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Speaker 1: Has always been tough games, down to the down to

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Speaker 1: It only makes the players exciting in the locker room

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Speaker 5: So arm length is always a big talk and with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned Mike on one and the first thing

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Speaker 3: I thought of when they signed just you you two

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's a point that you guys were

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Speaker 3: Just how much are you looking forward to those types

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Speaker 1: Mike's played you know, obviously watching offensive line, He's played

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Speaker 1: but just also you know, obviously picking his brain. You know,

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Speaker 1: And I never leave the cap, you know, sealed of like, hey,

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Speaker 6: I know your availability has been such a big part

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Speaker 1: And tell me a little bit about you doing yoga.

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Speaker 1: It's it's more than just a workout as a mental thing. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: We had a quarterback here who stress pliability.

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Speaker 1: He was big on that.

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Speaker 4: You might have heard about him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't worry. I'll be tapping into some things as too.

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Speaker 5: And I've been asked to ask you who does your

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Speaker 1: I've always been into it. You know, I grew up

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Speaker 1: you always say Sunday best. And then obviously a long

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Speaker 1: Sandra says his best right, you look good, you play good.

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Speaker 1: So obviously hopefully I can hold that, hold that up

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Speaker 6: on you Morgan.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned Drake May at your press conference and just

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Speaker 5: Well, we're getting the wrap up sign because we know

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Speaker 5: you're busy.

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Speaker 1: It's been a world war today. We appreciate you. No,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, man, Thank you. This won't be this

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, man, Thank you. Always appreciate you, guys.

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Speaker 4: But where the Patriots are concerned, Let's just get one

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Speaker 1: We can worry about versatility. Am I lying to anybody here?

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Speaker 1: Let's just get one thing done. Let's get one thing

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