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Speaker 1: Hey, You've never.

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Speaker 2: Been left waiting by the phone.

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Speaker 1: It's the Fred Show. Hey, Amby, good morning, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, guys, how are.

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Speaker 1: You doing great? Welcome to waiting by the phone.

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Speaker 2: So we're trying to figure out what happened with this

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Speaker 2: guy Patrick, and we got to have the backstory. So

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Speaker 2: how did you meet tell us about any dates you've

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Speaker 2: been on and uh and how those went and then

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Speaker 2: where things are now?

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Speaker 3: All right? So, first I met Patrick at a Saint

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Speaker 3: Patrick Stay party the irony there, and we just we

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Speaker 3: just talked for like hours. We both have kids, and

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Speaker 3: we bonded over that, like we're both single parents, you know,

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Speaker 3: just talking about like the funny stories that our that

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Speaker 3: our kids, you know, do, So we just like really

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Speaker 3: clicked right away. It was like instant connection. Then we

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Speaker 3: like the more we talk, like he was asking, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, whereabouts I lived, we found out that we

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Speaker 3: were pretty close to each other, and he asked for

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Speaker 3: I was excited because, like I thought he was really

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Speaker 3: definitely connection there. So we had been kind of texting

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Speaker 3: a few days later it was a really nice day

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Speaker 3: and Patrick was like, hey, you know, like I'm going

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Speaker 3: to take my son to the park, which was not

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Speaker 3: too far from my house because I said it was

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Speaker 3: pretty close to his and like I said, we lived

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Speaker 3: pretty close, and he was like, hey, do you want

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Speaker 3: it's like a big thing, like introducing your children to

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Speaker 3: any other adult that you had, Like even if he's

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Speaker 3: like not my boyfriend, it's just a lot to introduce

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Speaker 3: to anybody coming into our lives. So I really appreciated

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Speaker 3: him saying like if I felt comfortable, like bringing my

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Speaker 3: and I said, sure, you know what, like what why not?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's innocent. It's not a date, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's just kind of meeting up and kind of getting

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Speaker 3: really nice to see him again. We tried a lot,

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Speaker 3: the kids had a lot of fun playing. But after that,

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Speaker 3: like I never heard from him again, Like it was

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Speaker 3: very weird, Like he didn't tell like I sent him

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Speaker 3: a text afterwards, they said hey, like, you know, thanks

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Speaker 3: for inviting us. We had a great time. You know,

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Speaker 3: talk to you soon or like love to see you again,

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Speaker 3: you know, let me know. And it was just crooked.

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Speaker 3: So I just don't know, like what happened if I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting because you guys, you did meet in

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Speaker 2: and stuff. I suppose I's seen innocence enough and since

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't this guy call me again?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just very strange, Like I feel like

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's call this guy Patrick, see if we

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Speaker 2: can get him on the phone. We'll ask these questions

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, Abby, let's call Patrick. You guys met at

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Speaker 2: the Saint Patrick's party. You talked for a long time.

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Speaker 2: You thought it went really well. You bonded over the

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Speaker 2: it wasn't really a date per se, but you know,

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Speaker 2: the kids got to meet each other and you guys

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Speaker 2: really well. Except you have not heard from Patrick since then,

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Speaker 2: and you want to know why exactly.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just kind of racking my brain what's happening.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, Like at this point, I need

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Speaker 2: Look at mom multitasking over there. I got the kids

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Speaker 2: in the background, still try to figure out. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got needs, gir, I understand. Let's call

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Speaker 2: this guy now. Good luck, Abby, thank you?

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Speaker 1: Hello? Hi is this Patrick?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: This is he, Hey Patrick, Good morning. My name is Fred.

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Speaker 2: I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning radio Show,

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Speaker 2: and I have to tell you that we are on

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Speaker 2: the radio right now, and I would need your permission

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Speaker 2: to continue with the call is uh is he coo?

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Speaker 1: If we talk for just a second. Yeah, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you for calling on behalf of a

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Speaker 2: woman who reached out to us. Her name is Abby.

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Speaker 2: I guess you guys met it at a party recently

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Speaker 2: and went on a date. I guess it was kind

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Speaker 2: Do you remember this woman?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I remember Abby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So what happened?

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Speaker 2: Because she we just talked to her a second ago

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Speaker 2: and you know, she thought everything went great. You guys

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Speaker 2: apparently decided to meet up with your kids, and she

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Speaker 1: So what what happened?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was I was gonna take my son out

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Speaker 4: if she wanted to join, you know, nothing serious, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: we met up. She's she was great, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: she's really fun to be around. Honestly, her her two

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Speaker 3: That was kind of my opinion.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, just in the in the way that they

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Speaker 4: terrorized my son, and I guess me, I do want

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Speaker 4: God bless you, and she just made a bee line

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Speaker 4: One of them just straight up to me I was ugly,

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Speaker 3: But you know the.

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Speaker 4: Worst part of it, they they're biers. Both of her

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to laugh, but I mean, okay, so well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: cob in germs on you. They're biting you, they're calling

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Speaker 2: you ugly, they're roasting you. And what is during all

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Speaker 2: trying to correct them? I mean, what's happening? What is her?

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Speaker 4: Well, no, she wasn't trying to correct them. I don't

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Speaker 3: It was just a lot for me on afternoon.

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Speaker 4: She never really told him to stop, and I didn't

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Speaker 4: after this afternoon, we can kind of be done with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like that much either. But let me

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Speaker 2: bring Abby in. I forgot to mention that Abby is here. Abby,

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Speaker 3: Okay, so my two year old cuz, like, we are

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Speaker 3: of all, Terris is like really extreme and like I

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Speaker 3: So I really hate that, Like that's just for me,

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Speaker 3: Like if he's turned off by me, that's fine. Like

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Speaker 3: towards him, they're not They obviously were like a little

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Speaker 3: much like it's it's hard to be a single parent,

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Speaker 3: like you know, like it's kind of hard since he

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Speaker 3: I divote some issues like with my acts, Like I

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Speaker 3: it's me doing it all. So it's like really hard

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Speaker 3: that he's like blassing me as a mother. It's just

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Speaker 3: very hurtful because I was trying so like he's kind

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Speaker 3: of going to the stream, but I did nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my mom my sister and I were

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Speaker 2: I think though you know, your kids can act up

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Speaker 2: i'm Patrick, I guess what I would have been looking

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Speaker 2: for is less about what a two year old's doing

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Speaker 2: and more about maybe what you're doing about it, because

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Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. So you're listening to what

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm I'm asking you if, Okay, I'm not critstaging you.

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Speaker 3: Already I had already explained that. When she did go

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Speaker 1: Is that what happened? Patrick? Did? She did?

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Speaker 4: Well, no, no, she did.

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Speaker 4: That's not necessarily what I meant. It just it was

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Speaker 3: So it was just a lot, And that's fine. But

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Speaker 1: Ye trying to criticize.

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Speaker 3: We are not trying to criticize you at all, But

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Speaker 1: It was a lot for him. And you can admit that,

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Speaker 3: That God is totally fine. I can admit that the

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Speaker 3: Well, sure, but he didn't even have to bring up

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Speaker 3: Like I've had to end things. They're not they're uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's fair.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I think that you're you know,

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Speaker 2: But I also think that it's possible that when we're

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Speaker 2: criticizing you. It's not for him. He has that right

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Speaker 4: You know, Honestly, had we had this conversation, I may

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Speaker 1: Up her kids.

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Speaker 4: I see that she's working on it. I'm absolutely not

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Speaker 2: This, I did not see this coming. So you have

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Speaker 2: no problem being a human Kleenex again, Well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm a little surprised, but Abby, I

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Speaker 2: But great, So it'll be an adult date. You guys

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Speaker 3: I can. I mean, I appreciate it, and obviously, like

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Speaker 3: I do appreciate it. Like Patrick being honest, I can

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you did.

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Speaker 2: You did kind of chew us out a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had a rough go and I do stand up.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, I really wasn't trying to fight anybody's

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Speaker 3: I'm always going to defend what I believe is right.

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't anything that aginst you guys, because we

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Speaker 2: Hey, I think he's a little turned on over there,

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Speaker 2: So that's great. You guys go up as adults, have

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Speaker 1: Thank you,