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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broughs, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. Training camp continues twenty eighteen from the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. And welcome to Talking Cowboys, Bill Jones

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Speaker 1: with Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought Us and Rob Phillips as

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Speaker 1: we take your calls over the course of the next hour.

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Speaker 1: As once again it's a late day here at the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys headquarters. Cowboys with a practice this afternoon. They'll be

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Speaker 1: hitting the practice field around five thirty and it's open

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Speaker 1: to the public as usual. And after a day off tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: at eleven am. And then another open practice next Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: one week from today, so four more opportunities to come

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Speaker 1: see the Cowboys at Ford Center here at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. Gentlemen, how are you doing on this very

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Speaker 1: nice Tuesday to watch some football this afternoon? Doing lovely?

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Speaker 1: We're still on California time. With this practice schedule. That's right,

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Speaker 1: might as well be on the West coast. And I'm

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Speaker 1: enjoying being Now you make your home here during the day,

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Speaker 1: and I don't. I'm an interloper coming in, but I

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Speaker 1: Is that what happens? Try it brings the afternoon paper

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Speaker 1: I used to use that line all the time anymore. No,

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Speaker 1: rolling a little late. You know. Hell it's funny because hellman,

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Speaker 1: last night we had the awards thing and your name

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Speaker 1: You were mentioned and they were talking about the gentleman Mickey.

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Speaker 1: so yeah he said that. But yeah, hellman came, we

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Speaker 1: take a major award into a bar. He didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: He did, check his Twitter account. He did. He took

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Speaker 1: It was a great night lesson. But yeah, some people

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Speaker 1: can't walking in the door and Chuck coming in here

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Speaker 1: hey got beat out by a basketball guy. It's a

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Speaker 1: what's funny about that? Was that? And Radigan even said, man,

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Speaker 1: about where some guys lined up. Yeah, it's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: ready to take your phone calls. So just how young

446
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: was that safety crew that Christ Roushard worked with in

447
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: two twelve in Seattle Rookies. Earl Thomas was twenty three

448
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: years old. Cam Chancellor was twenty four years old. It's

449
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: not official yet, but the newest Dallas Cowboy Jeron Johnson

450
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: was twenty four years old, and a guy named Winston

451
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: Guy was twenty two years old. The oldest was actually

452
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: Chris Marrigos, who was more of a special teamer. He

453
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Speaker 1: was twenty five years old. So that was how young

454
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: they were back then. Guy, Winston Guy, Winston Guy. That's right,

455
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Speaker 1: you remember Winston Guy? Are you? Thank you? Ken? So

456
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: there you have it. Got a pretty young safety crew

457
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: here now. Yeah, And he was asked, you know, how

458
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: how much do you have to how much can you

459
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: give these guys At this point, he said, I'm as

460
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Speaker 1: much as they know, and it's my responsibility that they

461
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: know everything. So that's where they're at. I mean, he's

462
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: he's got confidence in any guy who runs out there.

463
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: But there's no question they're young. They're inexperienced. Behind Cavn,

464
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: Frasier has got a couple of years in the league,

465
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: but beyond that, they're super young. Yeah, but he's barely played. Yeah,

466
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Speaker 1: special teams. They we'll get that guy in Seattle's your

467
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: attitude about the safety group change? I mean, I'm just asking, right,

468
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean, but that doesn't seem to be on the table. No,

469
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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that does that Is that the

470
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Speaker 1: one area though that you would think that they could

471
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Speaker 1: really dress this thing up if they had a defensive tackle. No,

472
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Speaker 1: I'm just asking, or do you feel better about the

473
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Speaker 1: last week we were saying defensive tackle? Antoine Woods? Is

474
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Speaker 1: making you feel better about if you if you told me,

475
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Speaker 1: if you told me that they're going to con to

476
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Speaker 1: keep considering playing Crawford at the three technique, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then I'm okay. And then Collins College, yeah, Woods, Yeah,

478
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. That's another one. And then and

479
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: then and Brian Price hasn't been terrible. He played well

480
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Speaker 1: in the game the other day. Jones is going to

481
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Speaker 1: come back. He hasn't been terrible. He's gonna be out

482
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: a little bit. Assume David Irving's back the fifth game. No,

483
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't assume that. Okay, prax in here again. So

484
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: that's that's the other thing. I just I don't know.

485
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Speaker 1: I mean that to me? Does that mean that the

486
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Speaker 1: I'm with you on the defensive tackle thing make you

487
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Speaker 1: I understand that? But does the safety spot now critical that? Okay,

488
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: let me throw that is is the safety spot now

489
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: a critical position for this team? Yes? Not knowing when

490
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: Woods is going to be back. If you can tell

491
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: me Woods will be back week two, then we never

492
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Speaker 1: won a super Bowl with the safety, right now, that's right. Yeah,

493
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: they acquired Thomas Everett before the ninety two Super Bowl

494
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Speaker 1: run they did. He was pretty good. He was was

495
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: pretty good. Look, but James Washington wasn't bad. That's true.

496
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: He's the one that got benched. It is Brian because

497
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: you can say, we feel good about Heath, we feel

498
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: good about Cavon Frasier even, but you're one snap away

499
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: from guys who have never played a snap in the

500
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Speaker 1: NFL and we're not exciting, we're not drafted. Is it

501
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: exciting and then exciting? Yeah? It's a brave new world? Okay? Yeah,

502
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: how many other teams you think are in the same boat.

503
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if a lot of teams are in

504
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: this boat right now. We're talking about backups. But this

505
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: is what Okay, how about this. I talked to a

506
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: bunch of guys around the league, and everybody's hunting offensive lineman. Everybody.

507
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: I asked you this the other day. Everybody's hunting offensive lineman.

508
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: This is the most shallow position of talent to find,

509
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Speaker 1: right If you have if you have. If you have

510
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Speaker 1: a bat solid, keep it. No. I was thinking that, Okay,

511
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: go trade for a guy, go do you know, claim

512
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: a guy. I don't know if if there, we'll see,

513
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: we'll see if anybody. The one team that everybody seems

514
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: to think that has backup offensive lineman and has some

515
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: depth to it is the Saints. They kind of talk

516
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Speaker 1: about the Saints as being a team that's got some

517
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: guys that you know. And this is a conversation I

518
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Speaker 1: had this morning on the way so I should have

519
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 1: done my due diligence and looked at all the Saints, Uh,

520
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: looked at all their offensive lineman and see who they

521
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: who they have. But that to a couple of my

522
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: pro guys not here other teams, was telling me keep

523
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: an eye on the Saints. That's a team that's got

524
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: some offensive lineman. They're probably not going to give him

525
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: away though you think they got excess. That's what they think.

526
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: They think they're They think they're the one team if

527
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: you had to deal with, if you had to make

528
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: a deal with the Saints, of the team that has

529
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: some excess offensive lineman. They've got a tackle Terran Armstead.

530
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: He's a veteran Okay, Andrews Pete, he's a veteran guard, center,

531
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Speaker 1: Max Unger, right guard, Larry Warford, Yeah, he's These are

532
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: all veteran guys. Brian Ramshit who was the first round

533
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: draft pick last year, bush Rod there you go. There's

534
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: he's a backups and he was a starter one season

535
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: from Miami. Well he was a starter at one time

536
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: for the Saints at I try, yeah, right, and they

537
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: went away and came back. Yeah, Michael Ola is one

538
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: they signed in the off season. A tackle who was

539
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: with the Chargers will clap seventh round center this year,

540
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: Lsu Yeah, Josh Laribus from SMU who was with the

541
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: Red Skin exactly, and he was a former third round

542
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: draft pick. But do they have a mama Amy and

543
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: mama is not on their roster. No, Cowboys do try.

544
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: I think right now that it. Do you think that,

545
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: uh that Kadeem Edwards makes this team at this point?

546
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: He has to until you find something. He's starting it

547
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: right guard right now. Yeah, like he makes it. He

548
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: makes it on September first, but maybe not September second.

549
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean, do we blame this on colleges because they

550
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: don't make offensive lineman play offensive line? They just stand

551
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: there and get this team has been really good at

552
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: evaluating offensive lineman. Then all of a sudden they haven't

553
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: hit on the back up guys. And here's here's the

554
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: other thing that you mentioned too about do you blame

555
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: it on the colleges? Well, Alabama supposedly has all these

556
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, these great offensive lineman first round draft picks.

557
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: Well what happened to Jay Fluker was like the eleventh

558
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Cooper he can't move at all? Yeah? Okay, Um, Jonathan,

559
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm thinking your Chance warm Chance Warmack is the same draft. Yeah,

560
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: Chance Warmack and he's a backup in Philly now I

561
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: think yeah? Uh? And you know Barrett Jones won every

562
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: award and the possible in college and he wasn't even draftable. Basically,

563
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned a A and M's had a few that

564
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: have come out high in the draft. You mentioned one yesterday,

565
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: Dric o'beyhy. We saw that on Saturday. Who was he

566
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: was a first round draft pick? Uh? They had another

567
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: first round or two? Really? Well, Nuke chokel Yeah, well

568
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: if Bettie too was a first round of Seattle right, Yeah,

569
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: that's right. I mean Jake Matthews might be the only

570
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: one that's really panned out and got to a second contract.

571
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: I think you can hit on something, Mick. I think

572
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: maybe the style of offense is now Alabama Alabama style

573
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: pro style. But my point on that is they're supposed

574
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: to be the ones developing the offensive lineman, and those

575
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: guys can't make it in the league. Dame Notre Dame

576
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: might be the team all sense developing off lineman, and

577
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 1: they got the Indianapolis as the latest. But no one

578
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: wants to play offensive tackle too. It goes down, no

579
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: one wants to play the offensive line. Well, if you're

580
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: big enough, you really got no choice. Well, I won't

581
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: go through the whole story, but Joe Brotsky's old deal

582
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: about starting your high school team and who plays where,

583
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: and he got to the end and he goes in

584
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: everybody else. You're on the offensive line. It's like in basketball,

585
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: nobody wants to play center, right, everybody wants to beat

586
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 1: Steph Curry shoot threes. I mean, go watch, but watches anything.

587
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: It's the style of play in college football. They're not

588
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: developing the offensive lineman for the NFL. Go watch some

589
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: of these high schools the offensive lineman. They're they're the

590
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: kids that can't watch Connor Williams for a year at

591
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: capell and then most they can't fit in their uniform.

592
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you're you play the offensive line because

593
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: you're not athletic enough to play the defensive line. What

594
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: are you saying, makey they're too big, too heavy, Yes,

595
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: play sixty. You need some place sixty out there. They

596
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: just they take up space. And more than half the

597
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: college team, probably eighty percent of college football teams, maybe

598
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: ninety percent, they play in a two point stance. They do. Yeah,

599
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown at Oklahoma. They was talking about his poor

600
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: athletic testing, but you watch him pass block in a

601
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: two point stance. He's pretty good. I just I'm a

602
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: little nervous now about this talking to these guys because

603
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't know all the teams. There was a time

604
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: in my life I used to know all the teams.

605
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: But if they're if these guys are telling me that

606
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: the talent level out there is not good enough to

607
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: maybe go a trade or claim or do what you

608
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: have to do, that's a little nerving to me. Right now.

609
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: You've got this this offensive line, these five guys you

610
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: think are really really good, but you know now we've

611
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: started to kind of see, okay, what happens if something

612
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 1: happens to one of those. I mean, we've been very

613
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: fortunate with with Frederick and then also with Arn't and

614
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: those guys just lining up and playing every snap. Think

615
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: about the luxury they had when they had Lele Collins

616
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: and Larry. Yeah, you just don't have that. No, no, no,

617
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: even he was an active every week someone Collins last

618
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: year with Cooper, I mean, okay, he was just okay,

619
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: but it was another person that knew how to play

620
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: the position. It's encouraging what Looney's done. It do both Fleming.

621
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: I think you've just got to count on him to

622
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: be your solid swing tackle. But because of his experience,

623
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: but you need another guard, right If Kadem's not the

624
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: guy he's got, he's got a couple of games. Yeah,

625
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I think Kadeem is a couple

626
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: of games. This is really important for him because if

627
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: he could show that hey he can handle it, he's

628
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: gonna make this team. If he's not, then maybe there's

629
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: another guy out there that Again I might might maybe

630
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: my pro guys are wrong, but maybe there's somebody out

631
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: there that that's better than kadem Edwards. I'd like to

632
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: believe there probably is, But until that guy shows up,

633
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: it's Kadeem Edwards playing right guard for you and being

634
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: the seventh offensive lineman on your team because Joe Looney's

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Speaker 1: your sixth. Kadeem Edwards right now, if you said is

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Speaker 1: the seventh, who's the eighth? Now, the idea was Cam

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Speaker 1: Fleming was going to be Yeah, okay, well Cam I

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Speaker 1: should I'm sorry, Cam Fleming. Cam Fleming would be your seventh.

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Speaker 1: Is Kadeem Edwards your eighth? And I asked about him

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Speaker 1: early in training camp, playing inside and Cameron Fleming and

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Speaker 1: the answer was, he's a tackle. He's tackling. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what he looks like. Yeah, because he's because he's done

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Speaker 1: it right right he's played inside a little Yeah no, no,

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Speaker 1: but he's played inside. Oh yeah, he played a little guy.

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Speaker 1: See this this Marcus Martin thing, that's say what you

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Speaker 1: want about Marcus Martin. At least he was a guy

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Speaker 1: that's a veteran guy. Maybe that's the type of guy

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get. You try to get a

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Speaker 1: better Marcus Martin to be that eighth guy. And is

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Speaker 1: that eighth guy better than Kadeem Edwards. That's what you

651
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Speaker 1: got to figure out because right now kadem Edwards is

652
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Speaker 1: making this team. But you know there are questions about

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Speaker 1: Marcus Martin before he got hurt, just in terms of

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Speaker 1: conditioning and oh yeah, ready's play sixty guy. But that

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Speaker 1: was the that was the idea though. When you said

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Speaker 1: not me, no, Bryan said that. No, you said that,

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Speaker 1: Bobby ain't think about play sixty. You said blobby and

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Speaker 1: uniform as well. He was. I mean the guy shows

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Speaker 1: up over weight and then he gains weight when he

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Speaker 1: gets to training camp. That's not what you were counting. Food.

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Speaker 1: I did pretty good what I had to push away?

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Speaker 1: Did you gain weight? No? Okay, blobby is that a word? Blobby?

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Speaker 1: You hadn't been a word there, Mick, Rob Phillis, what

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Speaker 1: are we gonna have this Phillips pole. Oh, we're still

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Speaker 1: working on that guy. We're still working like a regular

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Speaker 1: season thing, isn't. Yeah, No, We're we're gonna have it

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Speaker 1: this week. I think, Okay, we're gonna have yeah. Fan

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Speaker 1: pulse stuff be good where you can interact live on

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Speaker 1: the app as the show's going on, and put it

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Speaker 1: somewhere where I can find it down on the Cowboys app. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what you do on the Cowboys app and on there.

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Speaker 1: We'll be able to have polls where you can interact

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Speaker 1: with the show. All right, we'll be doing it for that.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interactive. As we start talking about guard do

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Speaker 1: they you know? What are they? What? What position do

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Speaker 1: going to be the one that will be engineering. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if Mickey could figure it out, that'd be great.

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Speaker 1: But is there any hope of that. No, So it'll

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Speaker 1: to the point where I could vote. Okay, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: claim to not figure out where the poll was on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: which is our Twitter account. I'd like to take a

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Speaker 1: phone call. Go ahead, do it eight eight five five

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Speaker 1: to two nine seven. We have a can't we got anything?

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Speaker 1: Stand by? The full lens are jammed? Actually, oh, there

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Speaker 1: we go. People wanting to talk about Hello kid, it's

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Speaker 1: Who do we have? Nate and Frisco? All right, Nate

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Speaker 1: you got for us? Yeah? So question m cheve gn

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Speaker 1: make this team and yes, a shitting safety from the

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Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest does come to the Cowboys? When will that happen?

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Speaker 1: Last ding? What is practice today at the Star? Okay, sir,

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Speaker 1: the last question. First, technically it's five forty five, but

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Speaker 1: they hit the field at five thirty and gates opened

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Speaker 1: before that, So an he come anytime? There may be

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Speaker 1: a line forming Right now? There were eleven hundred folks

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Speaker 1: in the stands estimated at five o'clock for the opening

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Speaker 1: ceremonies yesterday, and they wound up with five thousand, four

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Speaker 1: Nicky and I would have been there, but we just

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Speaker 1: couldn't make it. Yes, But okay, take his questions. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what was the question about the Pacific Northwest guy? When

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Speaker 1: does that happen? Earl Thomas, when does that happen? That

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Speaker 1: happens when Seattle says, you know what, we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: We understand that our backups, the backup guys we have,

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Speaker 1: the guys we've been using right now are better, not better,

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Speaker 1: but we're comfortable with them. That's where I think when

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Speaker 1: we'll take the pick now instead of waiting until twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Along those lines, I saw an interviewer heard an interview

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Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll last week. Guess who he said was

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Speaker 1: the most impressive defensive player in camp. It had to

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Speaker 1: be their safety. It was Tedric Thompson. Tedrick Thompson from Colorado.

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Speaker 1: Now September second, see that. That's that's where I think

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Speaker 1: now he said that on a national radio show. If

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Speaker 1: he might have said something like yeah, absolutely, yeah. I

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Speaker 1: know some people in their organization that are like, let's

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Speaker 1: just move on. Let's just move on from him, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they got guys like John and then want

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Speaker 1: to keep him. But they've got others in that organization

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Speaker 1: that are saying, we need to move on. And I'm

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and figure out a way to get it done. Okay. Second,

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Speaker 1: to when you're when you're Yeah, when you're at a

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Speaker 1: But they may not want to spend eight and a

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Speaker 1: And if I start feeling that, then it's a conditional

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Speaker 1: I would say at this point, I would say no.

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Speaker 1: If they're going to keep eight offensive lineman. Brian just

747
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Speaker 1: broke it down for you, either three backups at this point,

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Speaker 1: Cam Fleming's your loan swing backup tackles. Yeah, because they

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Speaker 1: haven't tried Chaz at guard. It's a sucking wind through

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844
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: think that's why some of the people in the Seahawks

845
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: organization are worried that they wanted to just go ahead

846
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: and move on. But Earl Thomas is a pro. You know,

847
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: I just don't see him leaving, you know. Eight hundred

848
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a week on the on the table. That's

849
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: why September two could be d day on that Dan.

850
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: He's a vested veteran absolutely, so if he's on the

851
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: roster that first week he's on, you can take the

852
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: one time. I'm guaranteed this money, even if he decides

853
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: to leave, yeah, or they decided. I just I just

854
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: feel like that he's not going to sit out. If

855
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: they decide to play with him, he'll he'll play. I

856
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: just don't I mean but that. I also I would

857
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: like to hope that it happens before September second, because

858
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: then if you have to, because if you trade for

859
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: him right now, you're taking on a one year contract,

860
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: and I would like to I would like to think

861
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: that you could get this thing to maybe a three

862
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: year deal if in fact you had more chance, more

863
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: time than just one day to negotiate this thing. So

864
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: we'll see. All right, let's go to Eric in New York,

865
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: your next up on Talking Cowboys. Eric, Actually, eastern North

866
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: Carolina is where I'm sorry for the discribit sy, but yeah,

867
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: now that's eastern Pennsylvania. And then okay, yeah, we're east

868
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: of North Carolina. Right next to Greenville and East Carolina

869
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: University is yeah, yeah, man, I've been listening to you

870
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: guys about for a long time. You're the best of

871
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: what you do. Thank you. I just want to mention that, Um, Brian,

872
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: I admire you and your commentary and your knowledge a lot.

873
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: Thank you as well as Mickey. So I'm gonna be

874
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: very quick, Um just I'm gonna touch it. Did the

875
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: l Timer situation. I feel as though either way how

876
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: it goes, the Dallas Cowboys in a good position here

877
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: being that, um, you know, um, you know, they can

878
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: perhaps get a decent safety to feel in the bed,

879
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: the bridge the gap between now and next year. Um,

880
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: if they do, we're gonna trade. I think that'd be great.

881
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: Let's solidify the decents. But at the same time, as

882
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: it doesn't, he'll be a free agent next year. You

883
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: can get a clean deal. You don't have to give

884
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: a big exact picks. So I feel like, you know,

885
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: over the last few years, the front office of the

886
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: ballas Cowboys that have been doing a great job kind

887
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: of bouncing their budget, you know, as far as their

888
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: cap goals and advantaging players very well, handling their contracts well.

889
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: So I think the future is very bright for this team.

890
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: Like I said, they don't have to put a trigger

891
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: on a on a deal for Earl Thomas right now.

892
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: They could pick up Ioka. If it's possible just to

893
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: get through the years, then they can go back to

894
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: the drawing board and get a deal with here where

895
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: they would not have to give up a player. Um.

896
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: I'm very pleased about the defense. I am worried about

897
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: the safety position, but I'm very excited about the linebacking

898
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: corps and that and that defensive line and if you know,

899
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: I feel like then we don't have to rush and

900
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: do nothing irrational as far as picking up players on

901
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: that defense, because you know they got a good, solid soundation.

902
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: I just hope they don't do nothing crazy, stick to

903
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: their guns to continue doing the things they've been doing.

904
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: I think we'll be fine, Thank you man. Well an

905
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: educated caller. I don't know, yeah, I mean, because he

906
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: didn't I wasn't happy about the safeties. I don't want to,

907
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: but I don't, you know, but I could we could

908
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: go out and sign. By the way, the seventeen teams

909
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: are looking at him right now, but yeah you can.

910
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: You can't hold him accountable for Iolca. Uh. What about

911
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: the possibility though, of saying, Okay, i've got a little

912
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: excess cap money this year, I'll just take Earl and

913
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: it was one year deal. You know what, Mickey, would

914
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: you do it? Yes, I would, But I wouldn't do

915
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: it for a second round pick, right right? If he

916
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: told me, I said, listen, I'm gonna okay, you know,

917
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: I take him off your hand. I'll take him off

918
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: your hands, and here's my here's my third round pick.

919
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: Because I was willing to give it too. And the

920
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: only reason I was willing to give it to is

921
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: because conversations were had during the draft at fifty. Dallas

922
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: was willing to move at fifty, so that if I'm

923
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: John Snyder, I'm like thinking, wait a minute, you were

924
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: willing to move at fifty, but all of a sudden,

925
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: you're player. A player came available, So to me, I'm thinking, okay,

926
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: let's see. But if you if you're making a one

927
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: year deal and hopeful, hopeful that you could sign him

928
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: after the season, then I'm not doing it for a

929
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: second round pick. Or just say I'm doing her a

930
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: one year deal and I get to see you a

931
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: little bit more of a Xavier Woods. I'd buy some

932
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: time there. I got myself covered it for three I

933
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: haven't invested long term money in a safety. Who would

934
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: be your left guard? If they had pulled that trade

935
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: off and got nearl Thomas with the second round pick,

936
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: they would have had to draft someone in the third round. Yeah,

937
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: would be They would be have Michael Gallant, Yeah, the

938
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: would there would be other guys. Yeah, if you right,

939
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: you would have drafted somebody. You would have to draft

940
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: somebody to play that spot. You were not going to

941
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: bring back Jonathan Cooper and those guys. She's just weren'ting

942
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: to do. That. Might have been Marcus Martin, Yeah, it

943
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: might have been Yeah, Yeah, all right, josh in Maryland

944
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: up next, josh Oh, hung up on you. Yeah, Bill,

945
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: I need to get rid of that Mickey guy talk

946
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: too much. It's a cloud show brought us. You're an ass.

947
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: I would like to mention before we were done here

948
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: about the passing of a great cowboy from the past.

949
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 1: Gil Brandt tweeted about it this morning. I'll just read

950
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: Gill's tweet. Sadden to hear of the passing of George

951
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: Andre who I drafted in nineteen sixty two. I would

952
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: say he was from Marquette, but m you dropped football

953
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: after the nineteen sixty season. George was one of my

954
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: greatest finds. Turned into an All Pro defensive end for

955
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Leaves behind wife Mary Lou and seven children.

956
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: Five time Pro bowler, Yeah, and four consecutive years from

957
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: sixty four through sixty seven led to Cowboys in sex

958
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: one year, sixteen and a half. Now that the officials

959
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: officials for the total. Let you hit him the offensive

960
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: tack on the head with your Yeah, that too. But

961
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: he was pretty darn good now he was. And he

962
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: a big game player. He always came through in big game.

963
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: He and Larry Cole came through in big games all

964
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: the time. You're right, You're absolutely right. And he'd been

965
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: struggling for a while. I think he had some, you know,

966
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: serious case of Alzheimer's and um. But he lived kind

967
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: of in the area outside Fort Worth maybe or something

968
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: Waco or he was close. And he was one of

969
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 1: those cowboy former cowboy guys that you didn't really see

970
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't know that he came back to things,

971
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: which is always unfortunate. I think seventy eight years old,

972
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: born in Grand Rapids Michigan and again Marquette University. So

973
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: I wonderful Plaquette Michigan. Okay, right, uh, yeah, I don't

974
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: know if Marquette has ever played well, he said, he

975
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: Gill said, I would say he was from Marquette, but

976
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: Marquette dropped football after the nineteen sixty season. I think

977
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: he went to Marquette. Maybe just didn't play football like

978
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee. Milwaukee, I never knew they had a football

979
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: team and apparently, well they dropped football after nineteen sixty

980
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: of coorse, it might be why I didn't know. Maybe

981
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: I wonder if people played basketball there. Yeah, he's big

982
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: enough to downtown Milwaukee. That's two former Cowboy grads passing

983
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: in the last month. Frank Clark as well, right, started

984
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: training camp, that happened, right, So yeah, and Jethro Pugh

985
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: has passed. And so from that front. Four. From the

986
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: doomsday defense of the sixties, of course, she had Willie

987
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: Towns and Bob Lily. Bob Lily, by the way, he's

988
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 1: doing great and um um. Anyway, that that doomsday defense

989
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: was great back in the sixties and seventies, and George

990
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: Andre was a huge part of it. And that was

991
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: sixty sixth season was their first one to actually get

992
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: into the playoffs and played the Packers for the ATA. Yeah,

993
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: down to the last thirty four twenty seven. And then

994
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: of course nineteen sixty seven was the Ice Bowl game. Yeah.

995
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: Living in Green Bay for five years, yep, I think

996
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: everybody in the town went to the Ice Bowl. I

997
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: think the stadium fifty thousand people. But you talked to

998
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: every single person in Green Bay they were at the

999
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: Ice Bowl. Well, they were probably at the NFL title

1000
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: game here at the Cotton Bowl. It's funny because it's like, oh,

1001
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: I was there. I'm like, where are you? I remember

1002
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: it was like such a small stadium, Like the whole

1003
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: town was there. You know. I have a memory of

1004
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: the NFL Championship game in sixty six. I think it

1005
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: may have been blacked out locally. Really. My dad had

1006
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and you should have came over. We were

1007
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: watching it. My dad had a Cowboys antenna growing up

1008
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: in Irving, and but I remember listening on the radio

1009
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: anything except the sixty six game and came down to

1010
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: a final throw into the end zone interception, interception. Sitting

1011
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: on my aunt's couch in the basement, watching it on

1012
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: black and white television storytime. We're about to have it here. Yes,

1013
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: Rob got a phone call, Fee, let's go for it.

1014
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: Jay in West Virginia, you're up next, or you might

1015
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: be the final call and talking Cowboys today? What's up? Hey?

1016
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the show. I never miss

1017
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: Thank you seventy two. I love Mick. I think he's hilarious.

1018
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: My thing is, do you still think we have any

1019
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: strength at DT or do we need to look somewhere else?

1020
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: And I like the Earl situation. I think it could happen.

1021
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: We got a one yer deal like you're talking about.

1022
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: That could be great. But also we've all had a

1023
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: job we didn't like, but we didn't Earl wants to

1024
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: be here. Do you think he would play even more

1025
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: extravagantly and be a good tej for these young dbs

1026
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: if we got him? And thank you and enjoy the show,

1027
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: have a good day. And so is that your favorite

1028
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: caller now? Mickey? We keep changing, right man? So if

1029
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: he's not happy playing on a one year deal for

1030
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: eight and a half million in Seattle, would be happy

1031
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: playing for the Cowboys on a one year deal for

1032
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: eight and a half million. I think with the hope.

1033
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: What you have to think is you get him out

1034
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: of Seattle, you get him back to Texas, nearest family

1035
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: and going to make him that's gonna make him happier,

1036
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: and then then you work on the deal. Then you

1037
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,479
Speaker 1: work on the deal from there, because if it turns

1038
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: into one and if it doesn't work out like you said,

1039
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: you just let him go. If somehow you just say, Okay,

1040
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: it didn't work out, You're you're gone, goodbye. But you

1041
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: know you're gonna be out the draft pick. But that's

1042
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: the gamble you take right there. And he's gonna he

1043
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: wants to play here so badly that it's gonna be. Yeah,

1044
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: I think he wants to I've said this before. I'll

1045
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: be really consistent about this. I think he wants to

1046
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: be the highest paid safety at Seattle. I don't think

1047
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: he wants to be the highest paid safety in Dallas.

1048
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: That's just me, all right, And you're talking about it again.

1049
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: We bring up state income taxes another way to kind

1050
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: of get around some things when you talk about huge contracts.

1051
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: What and what Brian said there the highest paid safety

1052
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: in the league if he plays for Seattle, right, not

1053
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: the highest paid safety on the roster in Seattle, right

1054
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: in Dallas, right right right. So I just feel like

1055
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: that he's looking for a way out right now. And

1056
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: he played his hand. He going up to talking to

1057
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett the way he did, he played his hand.

1058
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: You know, he showed you he wants to be here.

1059
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: He's maneuvering to try and get here. But he's got

1060
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: a general manager that really doesn't care. I'll say this though,

1061
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: I had heard some whispers that that they were willing

1062
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: to move on from him after that game, that they

1063
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: that they had not They did not, They did not like,

1064
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: they did not they did not like the fact. Yeah,

1065
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: but they did not like that at all. And it

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00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: took really the head coach to calm everybody down. The

1067
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: head coach said, whoa, he's our guy. And but there

1068
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: was some talk about you know that was that was

1069
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: really upsetting to a lot of people in the Seahawk organization.

1070
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: And now I think that's why you got half the

1071
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: people right now that would like to see him move on.

1072
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: They remember that, Yeah, they remember that. The thing I

1073
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: keep going back to you though, and I'm not in

1074
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: Seattle's head, their organization, it's like they've they've had to

1075
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: part ways with a lot of guys. Oh sure, a

1076
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: lot of ways. They're retooling, they're not rebuilding. But if

1077
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: you let a guy go like that, you're still paying

1078
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: your quarterback one hundred million bucks for what like a

1079
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: young rebuilding roster. I know they I know they draft well,

1080
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: but like, are they trying to win or not? You know, well,

1081
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: so that the quarterback is the quarterback, they've been a

1082
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: figuring way to block for that quarterback or he would

1083
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: not be there very much longer. But what if they

1084
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: ridded themselves just say they've ridded themselves of age? Yes,

1085
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: am I right? Yes, but you're still investing heavily in

1086
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterball. But I'm saying, so you need don't

1087
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: you need pieces around it and try to win football games.

1088
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: Maybe that's how old they were, but they Yeah, they've

1089
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: got to look at winning football games, not only now

1090
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: but the next three or four years. Take with you.

1091
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if taking Penny, the running back from

1092
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: San Diego State in the first round helps, you know,

1093
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: you can say, yeah, he runs, There's plenty other running

1094
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: backs are better than Penny. Penny is a good player,

1095
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: But nah, I mean they need offensive linehelp. I mean

1096
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: cam Chancellor was hurt, right, he retired and chased him off.

1097
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: Sherman was hurt, right, chase him off Achilles And yeah,

1098
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: all right, that doesn't for talking Cowboys for this Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: We will talk at you again tomorrow from the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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