WEBVTT - Ranking Playoff QBs Into 4 Tiers + NFLPA All-Pro List Review 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:06.559 And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:09.080 Welcome to move sticks. 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.040 I am Bucky Brooks with my man lance Z joining 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:15.760 me feeling and for Daniel, Jeremiah and Elz, today is 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:17.799 a fun day because we got the playoffs ahead. But 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:21.000 rather than do a traditional playoff preview that everybody in 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.560 their mom is going to do, we want to preview 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.680 the playoffs by using the quarterbacks kind of as the 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.240 lynchpin to who we believe is going to have an 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:31.960 opportunity to go far in the tournament. So what I 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.000 want to do is we're going to talk about the 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:38.040 fourteen quarterbacks that are in the playoffs. We're going to 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:42.479 rank them in tiers. So we have four tiers. We 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:46.000 have Tier one being the elites, Tier two being Jeff 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.400 shat greatness these quarterbacks and knocking on the door of 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.760 being elite. Tier three they're hot right now, but can 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:57.400 they handle the playoff pressure? And Tier four unpredictable with 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.959 some question marks. And so Lance I'm gonna let's throw 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.840 out a quarterbacks. Let's talk about like in the AFC, 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.080 we got Pat Mahomes, we have Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:13.360 c Shrowd, Justin Herbert Russell, Wilson, and bow Nicks. In 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:17.640 the NFC, we got Jerry Goff, Dalon Hurts, Baker Mayfield, 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:23.080 Matthew Stafford, Sam Donald, Jaden Daniels, and Jordan Love and 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.000 so overall, what are your thoughts on the quarterbacks that 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.959 are in the postseason tournament? Do you have a strong 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.080 field or opinion all the guys they meet? 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:33.759 I know that. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.080 If we're gonna turn this out, you know, the elite 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.160 quarterbacks to me, there are three and they're all in 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.480 the AFC, and they're all one, two three. I know 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.600 this hasn't been Pat mahomes best year, but out of respect, 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.840 there's really nothing else that you can do but expect 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.400 Pat Mahomes to show up at big moment. So I 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:58.280 would say, you know, Mahomes, Seash Allen, and Lamar Jackson 0:01:58.440 --> 0:01:59.600 are in that tier one group. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:01.280 Is there anyone that you would add or. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.920 Some dreamy and saucy. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.280 So when we talk about the elites, the guys that 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.919 are there, I agree with you in those three have 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:15.399 my homes. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson certainly is there. If 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.800 there is someone that I would say is kind of 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:23.640 on the line, This is tough because I go back 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.200 and forth between like Justin Herbert and Jerry Goff. And 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.560 the reason why I say Justin Herbert being the guy 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.280 that I kind of put on that line is take 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:33.200 the numbers. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.000 Away from this year. 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.320 We've seen in previous years that Justin Herbert has played 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.119 at that level. We've seen this year when they've had 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.960 to rely on him to make plays, he's done it. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.600 I will put him in that Tier one category and 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.960 I'll fight anybody else who says he shouldn't be in there. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.320 I just feel like talent wise, he has all of 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.399 that and this is going to be a showcase opportunity 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.280 for him to join in that conversation as being one 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:58.800 of the elites at the position. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.200 One means that you can put the team on your back, though, right, yeah, 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.880 go full great Jennings and put the whole team on you. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:06.919 You got that ability. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:12.359 You're good with him, Okay, because I know the other 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:13.000 three can do it. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:14.840 The other three we've seen we've seen do it. 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:18.840 Okay, Well, look, okay, so you know what, I'll drop 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.560 Herbert down to tier two. But if we're talking about 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.640 the criteria for being elite is putting the team on 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:26.080 the back. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.120 And then that means Jayde Daniels come on into the 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:30.119 to the room. 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:36.360 Because if that's the criterion, we Jayde Daniels has to 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:40.480 come because we saw Jaydon Daniels put the Commanders on 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.640 his back. He's looking he's Deck of the year. He 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.640 was in the conversation for most of the season about 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.920 being MVP until he hurt his ribs, and then at 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.800 Lance when he got back healthy and they needed him, 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.400 he's done that. I mean when I look at this 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:01.320 commander's team for the elite players, I mean when you 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.280 talking about Terry McLaurin, he doesn't have to really run 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:08.040 into blackfield. The offensive line is an elite I mean, look, 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.800 this dude is is kind of pulling rapids out of hats. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:14.400 So if anyone deserves to go in there, I would 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.640 say that there are four guys those three that you 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.680 mentioned in the AFC that. 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.960 Mahomes, Josh and Lauren Jackson and then j Dands. Yeah, 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:24.160 Jay and Danis has to be in there. 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.640 I remind you my quarterback C. J. Stroud, he's in 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.200 Tier four right now. Yeah, and that man was up 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:31.280 having the same time. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.080 We were having the same conversations about CJ last year 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:38.039 headed end of this year, and now CJ's in the unpredictable. 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.760 With question marks. I mean, and I'm getting real, that's 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:42.360 what that's what it is. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:43.680 I mean, that's where he is. 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.159 So I've seen the tier ones are the guys that 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:51.680 we talked about having super hero powers, Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.440 Lamar Jackson, and then my bonus fake is gonna be 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.040 Jane Daniels. He gets into it. So now let's now 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.320 let's go tier two. Because I talked about just Herbert, 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.080 but I'm gonna put justin Herbert in tier two. 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.200 Who deserves to be in that tier category. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:12.800 I'm gonna go, I would say Herbert Golf. I mean, 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.360 I take tier two very serious. So I'm gonna say 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:22.240 Herbert off. I think you have to go Stafford out 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.160 of respect for the game. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.000 And the game that. 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.760 He can play like he can have those big games. 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.080 And then I got to decide if I'm going to 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:37.960 put hurts are Love there, and I'm gonna say, I'm 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.839 gonna say, you know what, No, I'm not putting anyone 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:42.279 else there. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:42.800 I'm done. 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:47.040 Okay, So so we have Herbert, we have Golf, and 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:47.880 we have Stafford. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:49.960 Those are the three. Those are the three that we 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:50.599 have in Tier two. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:52.960 So Tier two. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:57.400 Is defined as it has been defined Tier two. Just 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.920 these quarterbacks are knocking on the door of elite status. Now, 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:05.520 obviously you can't really say that about Matt Stafford because 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.440 he's an older quarterback, But in terms of can he 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.239 rise to the occasion to have an elite game, because 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.560 that's what we're talking about in the you know when 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.400 once you get in the playoffs, I think he could 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:22.120 still put together a big game. Yes, I think Herbert 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.440 for sure is there. You have to put Jared Goff there. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:27.440 I don't know. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.719 Some people would argue with me about Stafford versus Love 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.640 or Stafford versus Hearts, and I think it's a legitimate argument. 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:36.560 I think it's a legitimate argument. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.880 Now, look, I think we're good. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.920 So like I think Herbert, Golf and Stafford, I would 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:43.760 say yes to all of them. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:45.240 And in fact, I know. 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.640 We could talk about Mayfield playing Gray, Sam Donald playing great, 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:53.000 but then we're talking about being elite. Yeah, I think 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.360 I'm gonna go with it. I think it's I think 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.640 it's really tight. I think I think that's it. I 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.760 think we it's debatable about the others. But if we're 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.479 that means you ain't in the category because it should 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:07.360 be clearly obvious. So all right, So we have four 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:12.680 guys and Tier one home Mahomes Allan, Jackson Daniels. Tier two, 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:17.880 we have Herbert Golf and Stafford Tier three, which is 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:19.280 I mean. 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.280 Hey, I'm gonna switch it up. 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:22.520 I'm gonna switch it up. 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.480 Let's do Tier four first and then everyone else left 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.240 is tier three? Okay, because I want to see I 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.680 want to put you to the test and see who 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:32.720 you believe is. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.080 The definition is unpredictable with. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.800 Question marks like where do you put where do you 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:45.080 put CJ. Stroud, Where do you put Russell Wilson, Where 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.320 do you put Sam I'm thinking Sam Donald's going to 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.200 be Tier three obviously the only he played. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.880 Who do you think is tier four? Those guys that 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:53.640 you think. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.760 Now you're gonna unpredicted that you're gonna have them mad 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.800 at me. Now I'm gonna get shouted out after the game. 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.559 They're gonna be they be talking to the sideline reporter. 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:01.960 That's a game. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:06.800 But Brooks, looky, I saw you handle that guy from 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:08.680 U c l A. Back in the day after he 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.960 stared at you. I'm not worried about you. I'm not 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.680 worried about you. I've seen you deal with those guys. 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:24.320 Okay, let's see, all right, So we're talking about the unable. Look, 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.160 so Russell Wilson has to be there, based on how 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:28.080 they're playing right now. 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:28.520 C J. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:33.960 Stroud has to be in that conversation. Unpredictable with question 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.679 marks I'm putting. 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:45.559 I'm putting Nixon there, man, I don't know what. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:45.800 He put it down against the Kansas City Chiefs. I'm 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.960 putting Nickson all the Kansas City Chiefs, they put it down. 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.840 They barely even suited up for that game. All right, 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.120 it gets there. 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.959 We had to get the Bengals up out of there, 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.839 all right. So we got two dates. Okay, so we 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:00.360 c J. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.280 Straw, Russell Wilson, bow Knicks. 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.199 I'm gonna say, bo Nicks, I don't know about you. 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.679 Bucky, but i'm gonna say I haven't seen them playing 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.360 this kind of rookies in these big games. 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.079 It's rough, it's rough. And where does he go? 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:15.760 Mm hmm? 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:17.680 All right, old weather Buffalo? 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:19.959 All right, So we got bow Knicks in force. And 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.760 now what we're saying is the guy. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:22.920 We don't. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.760 I mean, I'm to make it out I'm coming with you. Hey, hey, hey, 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.560 no no argument, no argument for me. But I'm just 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.040 I'm just saying, I just want to make sure because 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.440 I'm putting this out there for the universe, and I 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.439 want to make sure you feel okay about when they 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.360 when they start, they start me and Muggy you and 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.360 they start talking about and Zarren wrote this. 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.160 But I didn't right back and all that. I just 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.480 want to make sure you're okay, okay being the coming 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:48.959 after you. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.240 I've already I've already got that Matt Jorden. 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.520 I'm his enemy for life because he thought I had 0:09:54.559 --> 0:10:00.000 a bad scatter report on him. Supposedly Juju Smith huesh 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.319 Or retweeted him running for a long touchdown. I circled 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.480 my scatter import and said he didn't have long speed, 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:06.840 which he doesn't and didn't. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:07.439 I was right. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.000 And then I've got dk Metcalf, who I gave the 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.640 highest grade of anybody like in the whole draft to sphere. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.800 He's got my weaknesses cut out and put in his locker. 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:20.000 I'm used to Bucky, Okay. 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.240 I'm not you'd be getting to smoke from folks talking 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:25.800 fucking bad about it. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:26.960 You're getting. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.160 Hey, once you put out one mock draft on NFL 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.400 dot com and the NFL retweets it, you will never. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.440 Have most more smoke in your entire life. You know 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.200 that you're right. I feel comfortable putting I. 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:46.720 Feel comfortable putting Sam Darnold and and and uh Baker 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.640 Mayfield in the third category, the hot players. I feel 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.440 comfortable with them being I think they're a perfect fit 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:54.559 from tier three. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.520 I'm curious though, on like. 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:05.520 Love, once we get to love Hurts, who else whom 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.520 I'm missing here loving Hurts? 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.440 I guess Love and Hurts? 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:10.400 Okay? 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.280 Are they tier three? We bump them in a tier two? 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.000 I can't put them in. I can't put them into two. 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.520 I can't put them knocking on the door to delete. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.680 So I don't either. If that's the definition, I can't do. 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.840 I can't. I can't say they knocking on the door. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:29.920 M hmm. 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:32.839 Man, I look, I think I think that's where we 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.160 act though. I think we have to put Hurts Love 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.760 in that category, like they've been high. But then we 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:44.480 got to see how they're gonna handle the playoff freshure, right, 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.440 I mean unless you unless you're trying to drop them 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.680 down to unpredictable with some question marks. 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:54.440 I mean, I don't really have some you can't. I 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.280 guess you could try to make that argument if you want. 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.320 Some people might argue that for Jalen Hurts because you 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.120 know some issues in the playoffs at the time. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:03.640 I wouldn't do that right now. 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.160 So you've heard Love overhears or hears, so. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:11.160 I would personally put well, I think Love can control 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.240 the game potentially with passing, but I think of the 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:17.160 two teams, I feel better with how Hurts doesn't have 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:18.040 to do as much. 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.120 So it's that I think. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.560 Because you don't just like Justin Herbert doesn't have to 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.320 do as much as he used to, which has made 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:25.360 him a better quarterback. 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.760 Josh Allen, the running game has. 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.440 Improved this year, so in a weird way, it's taken 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:32.439 a lot of pressure off of him. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:33.959 He still performs at a high level. 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.240 He does the same things he's always done, but he 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:37.559 didn't feel that same pressure. 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.520 I think Jordan Love feels a tremendous well. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.600 I don't know if he feels the pressure, but it's there, 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.040 like he's got to do a lot for them to win, 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.600 and I don't think you know the team that he's playing. 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.559 I don't think Hurts has to do as much to win. 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.760 So I think Hurts can kind of free stroke it 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.920 out there. I think he can play loose and free, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.040 and I think with Love, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:00.719 put him both than three though, but I would put 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.520 Hurts above Love just for this playoff run. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.480 Okay, So we got Bakery. We got Baker Mayfield in there, right, 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:09.440 we feel good about. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.680 We got Baker's gonna be Bakers. Who would you put ahead? Okay? 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.280 So if we're ranking them, so we're ranking the top four, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:16.600 how are you ranking those. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.800 Four quarterbacks the top four? 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:20.520 Yeah? 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.320 And there in group three, we got Hurts, we got Love, 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:24.840 we got Baker, we got Sam Darnald. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.040 How you how you sack. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:28.600 Man? 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.680 Baker's is right on the line because I think Baker 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:35.160 is Baker's smoking right now, like he's bumping up against 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.480 the tier two situation. So I would go Baker first, 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:45.920 then Sam Murs, I think. 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:47.680 Then I would say Love and then Hurts. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:54.120 Baker really is playing well that that Lion's game shaped 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:55.280 a little bit with Sam. 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.920 Donald, He's blowing leaves. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.600 Me in fact, man, when you really look at the 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:08.280 season that Baker had, Man, you can talk about you 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.560 can talk about Baker being right up in Tier two 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.800 almost man like. He's I mean, the way he's played, he's, 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.679 you know what, Baker like. I think I'm gonna move 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.000 Baker up to Tier two. I think I'm gonna move Baker. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:25.560 Baker had forty five yard I think I think I think. 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.200 We were done with Baker. The league was the league 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:29.240 was done with Baker. 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:33.040 He was just they somehow scraped him off the sidewalk 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.600 to play for the Rams and he pulled pulled that 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.480 Rams went out of his out of his hat. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:38.080 Two years ago. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:38.760 I remember that body. 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:43.040 I mean, it was like for Baker, good for Baker. 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:43.800 You know what? 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.080 And that is the lesson to be learned when we 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:49.200 talk about the quarterbacks and those things. Hey man, that 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:52.760 thing is not easy, and sometimes you got to give 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:56.520 guys opportunities to find their way to other situations. And 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.720 Baker found a home and it's really worked out for him. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.560 Let's let's look at that eighteen draft again. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.520 Now, two years ago, we would have said, Josh Lamar 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:10.960 and a bunch of trash. What you're saying, is Josh 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.960 and Lamar guys. Baker Mayfield, what a resurgence, what a 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.880 what a good quarterback he is. And look at Sam Darnold. 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.640 He just needed to have right play caller, the right 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:21.640 pieces around him. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:22.560 And now you're just. 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:26.640 Left with Joshua what's his name, Josh Josh Rosen. I mean, 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.200 Josh Rosen's out. But those other four guys now, all 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.160 of a sudden, the twenty eighteen quarterback draft. So it 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.640 looks a lot different, doesn't. 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.440 It looks a lot different, And it tells you about 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:36.400 a couple of things. 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:37.880 He tells you about the patience that you need to 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.800 have for quarterback, but it also how important the environment, 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.400 the situation is. Right environment, right situation, right play called, 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:45.880 all these guys can have success. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.680 But I do think that Alan, I think Josh Allen 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:56.560 and Lamar, I think they transcend. I think they transcend 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.400 where they are, like, I think they could be these 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.880 guys wherever you put them. Eventually, as long as you 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.440 put decent pieces around them, I think those guys are 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:07.120 going to be special. There's very that to me, those 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.080 are the guys that should get paid the biggest money. 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.960 Like right now, the NFL has a mode where they 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:14.800 next up. I guess you're just next up to get 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:15.400 fifty million. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.720 Want to operate that way. Baseball is like, no, if 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.360 you're not that good, you don't get paid like that. 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:27.360 Realistically, the guys at that stat at that level that 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:31.360 can succeed through adversity, can succeed no matter where they are, 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.400 that are special. I mean, I know we got three 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.840 of them for sure that are all playing in the AFC. 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.360 They're in the AFC playoffs. I think maybe you put both. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.480 You maybe have to put Joe Burrow there, as long 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.880 as he's healthy. Joe Burrow looks like he's got that special. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.880 We're waiting to see it on Jayden Daniels. You made 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:50.960 a case for him. I got to see it happen 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.480 for for two to three years because I'm worried after 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:54.240 what happened with CJ. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.160 Stroud this year. But it just goes to show you that, man, 0:16:58.160 --> 0:16:59.160 you can want those. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:03.440 You can want the next Josh Allen. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.800 And everyone loves to throw Josh a dray may he 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.080 can next Josh Allen. You could also be chasing a unicorn. 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.000 So there's not a lot of those. 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.320 Not a lot of Josh Allen's running aund There's not 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.800 a lot of Lamar Jackson's. There's definitely not a lot 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.040 of Pat Mahomes running around. And so we got Jayden 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:25.040 to Lamar, we got I guess Drake may maybe to 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.240 Josh Allen would be the comparison. And then we had 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:33.840 the Caleb Williams and Patrick Mahomes. Those are rough comparisons, man, 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.639 that's a that's a high, high bar. 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:37.960 You gotta and so if you're gonna set that bar, 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:44.439 you better help them coaching, help them with offensive line, 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:46.920 and help them with being patient. 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.800 And that's the lesson of that eighteen draft. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.000 But no one's given Baker Mayfield five six years, like 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.920 no one's given Sam that must say. It's just if 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:57.800 you're in a bad situation and you can't do it, 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:58.800 gotta go, gotta go. 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:00.919 That's the way it is. Is It is such an 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.000 interesting thing. That's fascinating. I can't wait to kind of 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.040 see how it plays out. Interesting conversation. So Lance, we'll 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.840 come back after the break. Let's talk about the NFLPA 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:17.120 All Pro lists, all right, Lance, So the nfl PA 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:21.560 just release their all pro teams for the twenty twenty 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:22.199 four season. 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.040 On offense, we'll go through it. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.879 Lamar Jackson, you have Brock Bowers, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:33.920 Takwon Barkley, Cal's you check, Tristan Wirfs, Joe Touney, Benna Sewell, 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:38.160 Chris Linstrom, and Create Humphrey. On defense, the first team 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:42.600 features Christ Jones, Jalen Carter, Trey Hendrickson, Miles Garrett, Dexter, 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:47.280 Lawrence Roklan Smith, Fred Warner. 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:50.320 Any Cayle Hamilton, and Pat Sortan Any. 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.920 You can't score on you cannot score on that. You 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.520 don't think we score well, we're not scoring on that. 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.560 D So let's let's let's talk about Let's talk about 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:02.400 the offense first. So Lamar Jackson gets. 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.800 Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, this offense is pretty strong. 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.119 I mean you were talking about that he scored. I'm like, 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:08.960 what you mean, I can't. 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.760 I need I need to see that game. I mean 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.920 I need to see I want that. I want that game. 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:15.320 I mean looked at the fascinating things. 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:16.840 So the first thing that stands out to me, Lance, 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.920 how about rock bout you know, doing the draft process. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.200 I know we always talk about like best player available, 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.080 and for a lot of us, brought powers was one 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.760 of the two three best players in the draft, and 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.719 he drops goes out up ten. But then he comes 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:35.359 and he plays. He is everything that we talked about. 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:39.760 What do you think about his season in Las Vegas? 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:40.359