1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. The Ravens have 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: made their selection. It is Clemson cornerback Nate Wiggins at 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: pick number thirty. He is your newest Baltimore Raven I'm 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Ryan Mink here with Garrett Downing and we're going to 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: give you our take and analysis of this pick. And Garrett, 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: this was a pure This is a pure cover corner. 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: The Ravens got a fleet footed, sticky cornerback. Position of need. 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Check that box that Eric caasas it was one of 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: his top twenty players. 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: Check that box. There's lots to like about Nate Wiggins. 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 4: I mean, the Ravens are fired up about this. They 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 4: feel like, you get a guy at the end of 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 4: the first round who can come in and impact your 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 4: defense immediately, and we'll talk about what that could look like. 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 4: And also you get a guy who's a cover corner 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: of potential shutdown cornerback on the back of the first round. 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 4: Cornerback is a premium position. The Ravens are going to 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 4: try to restock that position. It was position of need, 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: not necessarily a massive need in the short term, but 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: I think when you look long term, it is Also, 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 4: I also think. 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: This is a case of best player available. 24 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 4: The Ravens feel like they got a player very high 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 4: on their board, a top twenty player at least for them, 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 4: at number thirty at a position of need. 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 3: It just made too much sense for them. 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 4: Despite getting a ton of calls to trade back, they 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 4: didn't want to trade away from him. They felt like, 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 4: nay Wagan's too good, even though with all these teams 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: calling us, we're not going to waste any time. Just 32 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 4: take this guy and you feel like you got a 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: really good player who can make it a media impact 34 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 4: on this team. Yeah. 35 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, here's how the draft basically played out. 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: The six quarterbacks taken in the first twelve picks, right, 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks flew off, so that's good news for the Ravens. 38 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: Then offensive players in general. There wasn't a defensive player 39 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: taken until pick number fifteen was the first one. 40 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: You almost the first. 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: Half of the draft was all offense, right, So those 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: factors combined and some of these cornerbacks just start falling 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: down the board. Then you knew it was coming. At 44 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: some point, these offensive tackles start getting taken. All that 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: they're getting plucked, including by the Ravens division rivals. Marus 46 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: Wims goes to the Bengals, and then Faltanu goes to 47 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: the Steelers, right, and so these cornerbacks just keep falling. 48 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: The first cornerback off the board was Quiny and Mitchell 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: at pick number twenty two. 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: To the Philadelphia Eagles. 51 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: So at that point, I think Eric Dekosa and he 52 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: said this, going into the draft, he felt like looking 53 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: at the board and how the offensive tackles are going 54 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: to go down. It looked like it was going to 55 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: be tackle or corner for the Ravens, and there was 56 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: a high likelihood that the tackles were going to go right, 57 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: and so corner was looking more and more likely. And 58 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: that's how the board fell with all of them. Twenty 59 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: two is the first, and then they started coming off 60 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: the board twenty four Terry on Arnold and so forth. 61 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: The Ravens waited and got their guy in Nate Wiggans, 62 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: who the third corner off the board. And they feel 63 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: like might be the best cover corner in this year's draft. Yeah, 64 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he said, Eric Coons said, they think he 65 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: is the best. Yeah, I was cool. I think he's 66 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: the best cover corner of the draft. And Nate Wigan 67 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: said that he thinks he's the best corner of the draft. 68 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of guys say that. 69 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: Of course he's going to say that, but I like 70 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: that confidence. 71 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think that, Like, it was pretty shocking 72 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: when you don't see a corner get picked until twenty two, 73 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 4: Like typically your top corners are coming off the board 74 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: in your. 75 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 2: Top ten position of need. 76 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: It is one of the most important positions on the football. 77 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: When you have this this offensive tackle class that is 78 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: so highly revered, and the pass rushers went pretty early, 79 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: earlier than a lot of people thought. Then that pushed 80 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: the cornerbacks down and the Ravens capitalized. 81 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 4: I also thought a couple of points of note that 82 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: we're interesting in hearing from DaCosta. One of them is 83 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: that he felt like, if you don't get the corner 84 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: in the first round, you're not going to get a 85 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: corner really the rest of the draft. Who's going to 86 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: be an impact player as a rookie, Like you might 87 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: be able to do that as at the tackle position, 88 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: in the wide receiver position, not at corner. 89 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: Which is a little bit inter because it shows how 90 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: important they felt like a corner, how badly they need 91 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: a corner for twenty twenty four, right, They don't need 92 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: necessarily a starting corner for twenty twenty four in terms 93 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: of two wide Yeah right. I mean you have Marlon 94 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: Humphrey and you have Brandon Stevens right now at slot. 95 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: They re signed Arthur Mallett and Kyle Hamilton's still going 96 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: to play that very versatyle role. 97 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: That's part of what makes him special. 98 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: Right. So you didn't have like this big time, immediate 99 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four need on the surface, But it seems 100 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: like the Ravens felt like that was a higher need 101 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: than the rest of us did. Like we were sitting 102 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: here saying, well, maybe they could sign another Ronald Darby 103 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: right late in the process, and okay, that's your cornerback depth. Nah, 104 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: The Ravens felt like it was important to get that 105 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: guy in the draft. And like you said, brand Stevens 106 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: is in the final year of his contract, is entering 107 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: the final year of his contract. You know, they do 108 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: have some long term potential cornerback needs. Marlin Humphrey's getting older, right, 109 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: It's just how it works. 110 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how life works. And so, like. 111 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: A I think that they felt like they had more 112 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: of a twenty twenty four need than we all realize, 113 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: and as we all knew, there is twenty twenty five 114 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: and beyond needs, and they feel like they can be 115 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 1: more versatile. Marlon Hope Frey can play in the slot. 116 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think Nate Wiggins is going to 117 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: play much in the slat. Sure, maybe he did some 118 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: of that in college, but considering his more slender frame, 119 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that you want him banging it down 120 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: there around the tackles. 121 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he did play some there. 122 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: I mean he's he talked about I could play inside, 123 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 4: I can play outside, I can play safety. 124 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: He's an outside corn. 125 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: I think he's an outside that the build, the makeup, 126 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 4: the great speed like all that screams outside cornerback. But 127 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: Marlin can slide inside, Brandon Stevens can slide outside. Of course, 128 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 4: we already talked about Kyle Hamilton playing in that role, 129 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: and so I mean, I think the other part of 130 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 4: it is depth, like having outside cornerback death. Marlin missed 131 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: a ton of games last year and was dealing with 132 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 4: that injury Toto this season, so like you need to 133 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: have depth at that position, and his Stephens was pretty 134 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: much healthy. All last year, But like. 135 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: That's an anomaly. 136 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 4: How many times have you seen it? Like cornerbacks get hurt, 137 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: you need to have death there. 138 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as you hope this doesn't happen, but 139 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: it's probably a pretty safe bet that Marlon Humphrey and 140 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: Brandon Sevens aren't both going to play all seventeen. Yeah, 141 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: I hope they do. Yeah, but it's probably not gonna happen. Right, So, 142 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: like your third cornerback, even if he's not necessarily a slot, 143 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: is a very important position. Look at Anthony Evertt came 144 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: in and played a lot of snaps back when he 145 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: was the Ravens third corner like that. Ronald Darby played 146 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps last year and rock you seen 147 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: he played some of those two. Yeah, like the Ravens 148 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: kind of struck gold. You know, Ronald Darby, that signing 149 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: really worked out for him. But you're not always going 150 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: to get that fortunate. It's not going to work out 151 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: that well every time. Yeah, And so I think that 152 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: this is a really good pick. It still was a 153 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: high position of need. And let's talk about who Nate 154 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: Wiggins is a little bit more. 155 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: This dude can fly. 156 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: He ran it the forty yard dash in four point 157 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: two eight seconds at the combine. Right, the Kansas City 158 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: Chiefs just took the fastest guy ever at the combine 159 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: and Xavier Worthy and a couple picks later, the Ravens said, 160 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: all right, we'll match that speed. We got our guy, 161 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins. He ran the second fastest time at the combine. 162 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like this guy. What it comes down to 163 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: in the NFL, and John Harwaal talked about it is 164 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: can you cover? Are you sticky? Are you on the 165 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: guy or you not? 166 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Yea? 167 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: And this guy is sticky. 168 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: It is, Well, it's funny like when you have Xavier 169 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: Worthy who sets the record with the four two one, 170 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: then the guy who runs four two eight like gets 171 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 4: no buzz right time, which is when you're running the 172 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: four two is that is lightning fast? Like that is 173 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 4: it's incredibly fast. So you get this guy who's athleticism 174 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: is off the charts. Air Tacossa called him silky smooth. 175 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: He's also young, he's twenty years old. 176 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: Because he said he's yeah, I mean asked about it 177 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: is it was just like he's an athletic freak. 178 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: Basically, you have ridiculous athletes. 179 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: A ridiculous athlete, ridiculous. 180 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: Athlete, silky smooth, one of the fastest players in the draft, 181 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 4: and he's only twenty years old. So, like, you have 182 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 4: this very young, incredible athlete who is a really good 183 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: player at Clemson, and now you add him to a 184 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 4: defense where you can you can teach him the way 185 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: that you want to play defense. But he's got all 186 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: the skills, he's got all the foundation is totally there. 187 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: And you know the question, like one of the questions 188 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: on him is he's lean. You know, he was like 189 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy three pounds at the combine, packed 190 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: on a little bit of weight before his pro day 191 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 4: and came out over one and so but. 192 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: It's a good sign. Yeah, it's a good sign. 193 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: And he basically said, like, yeah, like when I get 194 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: into an NFL program, I'm young, I'm twenty, I haven't 195 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: filled out my body yet. And like when we're talking 196 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: about guys who make the big jump in their first 197 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: off seasons. 198 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: He's going to be on that list. 199 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And so like when he gets in the 200 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: NFL weight room, weight program, diet, you know, all the diet, 201 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: all that stuff, right, Like he's gonna fill out more. 202 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna have a plan for Nate Wiggins and putting 203 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: a little bit more mass on him. That would not 204 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: surprise me. I mean he's over, he's like six foot one. 205 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: He has room to put it on. It's you're not 206 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: talking about a short corner. He's just slender. 207 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 208 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: And so you know the physicality, Like there's one thing. 209 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: There's the weight and the size that can I think 210 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: be fairly easily remedied. And there's the physicality, which there 211 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: are questions about that too. The Ravens didn't feel that 212 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: there are legiti that there's concern about that. John Harvell said, 213 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: he comes up in his still smacks some people. 214 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 215 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: Right. 216 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: So, like, as long as the desire is there, the attitude, 217 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: the playing like a raven, that chip on your shoulder 218 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: and being willing. 219 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 2: To be physical. 220 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: Maybe he wasn't built for that kind of play at Clemson, 221 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: but if you put on more weight, more muscle, and 222 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: he has the willingness to play that way, Okay. 223 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. 224 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: Well, also, like when you talk about play like a raven, 225 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: when NFL Network rolls the highlights of Naywagens, and two 226 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: of them are him chasing down guys one force on 227 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: a fumble with the one yard line, Like nope, that 228 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: screens play like a raven to me, Like this is 229 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 4: a guy who doesn't give up on a play. You know, 230 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 4: he can be physical, he's got a knack for the 231 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: football and trying to come up with turnovers like all 232 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: that stuff to me, says says Raven. And it is 233 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: interesting because you know, like during this process, we we 234 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: didn't talk a ton about him, like shout out to 235 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: our guy, Clifton Brown, by the. 236 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 3: Way, Cliff Cliff picked this one. Cliff, yes he. 237 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: Doesn't do that, Yes, who's your guy, But but Nate 238 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 4: Wiggins was his pick and so you know that, so 239 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: we didn't spend a ton of time talking about him. Honestly, 240 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 4: I felt like he was going to be gone and 241 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 4: a lot of these mocks he was gone. The Ravens 242 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 4: thought he was going to be gone. 243 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, to be honest, like a lot of people 244 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: thought he was going to be gone. And he didn't 245 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: feel as much like a raven as a kool aid 246 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: McKinstry does because he's a little bit bigger. No, Koy's 247 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: not known for his physicality either, but you know, you 248 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: hear Alabama defender and this sounds like a raven. 249 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just you know Alabama. 250 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: Maybe people like forget that Eric hasn't really been in 251 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: nearly a tile on the Alabama guys is Ozzie and 252 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Eric's making the picks now, you know. But like anyway, 253 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, you see like a slender guy in Nate 254 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: Wiggins and it just doesn't feel and questions about his 255 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: physicality and all that and doesn't feel like a raven. 256 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: Honestly, I just thought he was gonna be gone. I 257 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: didn't think he was going to get there. I just 258 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: feel like you typically see more than three corners before pick. 259 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: Thirty one hundred percent and that too, right, But even 260 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought Cooper Dejene was more of 261 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: a fit, and Cooper dejen didn't get end up getting 262 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: picked in the first round yep, when Cooper de Gene 263 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: and Nate Wiggins are on the board at thirty for 264 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens, like I think probably a lot of people 265 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: thought that pick was going to be Cooper, right because 266 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: of the versatility and all that stuff. But it shows 267 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: to me a that, hey, we already have Kyle Holson, 268 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: do we need another Kyle Holsen? And there were some 269 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: people that said, like, yes, give me that or whatever, 270 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: but like how much can you use that? The Ravens 271 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: wanted that outside, sticky corner who can run with anybody. 272 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: That's the guy that they feel like matches up with 273 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: today's receivers, the guys that they're out there facing these 274 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: speedy dudes, and and that's what they got in Nate 275 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: Wiggins is a guy who can just he can mirror 276 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: wide receivers and that's what it takes in the NFL. 277 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I also like in talking to him, I mean 278 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 4: his brief Like, I like the confidence that he brings. 279 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: And a lot of times when you talk to these guys, 280 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: they have that confidence. But like in a short conversation, 281 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: you can only judge so much from a from a 282 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: ten minute zoom call. But like he talked about how 283 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 4: he followed around the best receivers on the other team 284 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: last year. 285 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: De coordinator gave him that assignment. 286 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, the defensive coordinat last year was like, all right, 287 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 4: whenever we're playing, whoever we're playing, you just fall around 288 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: the best receiver. 289 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: My favorite part was when he was asked there's one 290 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: game that really stood out to go watch, and he 291 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: named like five of them. He's like, yeah, their name 292 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: Florida State, UNC blah blah blah blah. 293 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: Like it just kept going. He's like, yeah, I mean 294 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: all of them. I locked him down. So take your pick. 295 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 3: I know, I like that. I like that too, what 296 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, I like the confidence. He said, it's 297 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 3: the best corner. 298 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: He's got a cornerback mentality exactly, which I think matters. 299 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: Like so I think that the makeup the player. Somebody, 300 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: John Harbaugh told a story like before the draft, you know, 301 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: just talking you know, some of the coaches about how 302 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: this thing was going to play out, and felt like, 303 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 4: is there any way day Wiggins falls, Like. 304 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 2: That would be a home run? 305 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 3: It see incredible if it happened, But that's never gonna happen. 306 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: Well, and it turned out, you know how how it 307 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: all played out. The pick before the Ravens were Dallas 308 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys who had traded back. They took Tyler Geyiton, the 309 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: massive right tackle, and so now there wasn't you know, 310 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: your guy Jordan Morgan was already taken. There wasn't the 311 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: obvious tackle choice unless you went into the Kingsley Swaman 312 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: Sea guys, the Patrick Pauls of the world all that, right, 313 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: there wasn't the obvious tackle. We don't know if if 314 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: Geyton had been on the clock with Wiggins, where they 315 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: would have fallen. But I have Wiggins was in their 316 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: top twenty, like Wiggins was their guy. That's what it 317 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: feels like, yeah, right, And so I think that they 318 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: all this whole time were just like, you know, I 319 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: don't I don't think Wiggins can get to us. And 320 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: when he got there, Erics Costas said, the phone was ringing. 321 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: He said, leading, I don't know whether it was when 322 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: they were on the clock or leading up to it. 323 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: He had eight different trade scenarios to go back and 324 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: you know how much Eric the Costa lakes to go 325 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: back and get extra picks. But Nate Wiggins was that 326 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: good that they felt like they couldn't trade away from 327 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: the player, because, as he said in the predraft press corms, 328 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: if somebody you hope and pray that somebody in your 329 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: top twenty gets to you, that's the dream. 330 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: And it seems like the Ravens' dreams came true. 331 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, on the trade front. So there was eight different scenarios. 332 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 4: And I asked him basically, like you know, I know 333 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: you love picks. What went into that decision not to 334 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: trade back there? And you know, he said that honestly 335 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 4: based on the analytics. He gave a shout out to 336 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: one of the folks who works on the analytics side, 337 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 4: Derek y Am, and he said that he did some 338 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 4: analysis leading into this where it felt like the Ravens 339 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 4: would get somebody between their thirteenth and twentieth best player, 340 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: and Wiggins was that guy. 341 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: In their sequence, and their sequence doesn't include quarterbacks and 342 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: all that stuff, I would assume. 343 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he felt like you would get somebody in 344 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: that ranking and Wiggins was the guy and he was there. 345 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: So you're getting all these calls. I mean, obviously your 346 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: teams were interested in trading up. The Carolina Panthers moved 347 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 4: up a spot to get Xavier Legeed at thirty two, 348 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: and so I'm guessing those were they were one of 349 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: the eight teams, So you know, a lot of people 350 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: were interested in moving up. But I think that like 351 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: for Dakasta to turn down a trade, I think says 352 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: a lot about their confidence in Nate. Wigginess also goes 353 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: back to my fifth year. 354 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: I was just about to say that, especially with a 355 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: young quarter at twenty years old, that fifth year option 356 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: looks really nice. I mean, when he's twenty five, he's 357 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: still not even hit his prime prime would a lot 358 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: of people consider his prime? And the Ravens have and 359 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Eric Tacosta now have a track record of drafting younger players. 360 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: There were fewer underclassmen in this year's draft class. Nate 361 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: Wiggins was kind of the exception. Came out after his 362 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: junior season at only twenty years old. The big takeaway 363 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: here is that you and I can you know, have 364 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: cheers and have a beer to celebrate this pick and 365 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins cannot. But anyway, in all seriousness, like the 366 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: Ravens have drafted young Patrick Queen was a young player, 367 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was a young player, right, They've drafted young 368 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers is a younger guy, and so they see 369 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: value in that. I mean Eric Tacosta came out and said, like, yes, 370 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: we see value in him being a younger dude, Hey, 371 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: get him an NFL coaching faster. You know when he's 372 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: when he's still running that four to eight. 373 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have you have room to a cent like 374 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: you're still on the objectly wait, which most rookies are 375 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: but if you just get a little bit younger, then 376 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 4: you can well. 377 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: I think there's there's certain players in the draft that 378 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: pe've certainly evaluators. Part of their job is saying, has 379 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: this guy kind of tapped out? Has he reached his 380 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: potential or close to it? What's the ceiling on this guy? 381 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: And with the tools the athleticism that Nate Wiggans brings, 382 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens see a really high ceiling with him. 383 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: And he's already been a very good player in college. 384 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: Totally, So we're going to take a quick break. 385 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll give you some thoughts on 386 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 4: what the Ravens could do on day two and day 387 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: three the draft. You're listening to the Lounge podcast. We're 388 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: coming to you from the Sea Geek Studio. We want 389 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 4: to give a shout out to a friend at Draft 390 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 4: King sports Book. 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And again 400 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: I thought it was really fascinating that Eric basically made 401 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 4: the point like, if you don't get the corner in 402 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 4: round one, you're probably not getting one that's gonna make 403 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: an immediate impact on your team. I just thought that 404 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 4: was a fascinating admission from him. Yeah, but you could 405 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 4: get a tackle, you could get a receiver. 406 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: Now the question means, does the same he must feel 407 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: differently about offensive tackle? Does the same apply for offensive tackle? 408 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: He feels like offensive tackle is so deep there? You know, 409 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: the question has been these Tier two offensive tackles, how 410 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: ready are there? Because there's a lot of talk about, yeah, 411 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: these guys kind of need some work. That really high 412 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: ceiling again, but they need some work. You don't want 413 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: to throw them into the fire. You know, Kingsley, Swamsea 414 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: and Patrick Paul. Patrick Paul's got a lot of starting experience. Yeah, 415 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: let's put that out there, Like, you know, he still 416 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: needs to refine his game. But this dud's played a 417 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 1: lot of games. So it's Kingsley. He's played a lot 418 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: of games too, So maybe the Ravens don't see it 419 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: as they feel like they are ready to plug and 420 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: play or they feel comfortable with Hey, if follow Ale 421 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: starts out, you know, and plays some whatever, we have guards, 422 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: We have in house options where you don't have this 423 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: glaring need that we have to throw these guys in. 424 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: I thinks are going to take a tackle on Friday. Yeah, 425 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 4: they're gonna take. They're gonna take. 426 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: I agree, I one hundred percent agree. I'm just saying, 427 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: what is that player? Is he going to be plug 428 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: and play right away? 429 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 4: Maybe not, but I think that my my my hunch 430 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: is that the Ravens will find a starting a week starter, 431 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 4: a week a week one starter, a week one starter 432 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: on Day two. 433 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: That's my guess that. 434 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 435 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 4: I don't know what position, because it could be guard. 436 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 4: They have three spots to fill. I think they will 437 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 4: find a week one starter on Friday of the draft. 438 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. My expectation is that offensive tackle in the second round. 439 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: There's a decent chance I have that mocked by the 440 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: way I have Kingsley Swaman Sea. So I'm sitting better 441 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: than you right now because he has the second round corner. Well, 442 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: I'm looking much better. Yeah, I don't know if you're 443 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: looking better because you Yeah, I'm looking better. 444 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: Well, you said a. 445 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 4: Donnie Mitchell and then they just didn't take him that 446 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: he was there, and then you were like, you know 447 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: what I'm gonna I'm gonna make the change. 448 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with coolist. 449 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 4: You really had two guys and your guy, so your 450 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 4: your corner was there and they took a player at 451 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: your position. 452 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm over too, I'm over to you right now. You're 453 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: oh for one, but I have a chance to going 454 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: one for three. 455 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: You don't. 456 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. I'm definitely not going to hit my 457 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: second round pick. 458 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: All seriousness, Like, I think that second round tackle is. 459 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: Roger Rosengarten is another one to consider there, Patrick Paul 460 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: King Suswamatia. Just giving you some names out there to 461 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: keep an eye on. And the interesting thing in the 462 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: second round for the Ravens at offensive tackle is so 463 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: many teams have taken one, all right, yeah yeah right, 464 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: So there's just fewer, way fewer teams on the hunt 465 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: for a tackle. 466 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 2: Washington's one of them. 467 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: I expect that the Commanders are going to take a 468 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: tackle early in the second round, but that leaves another one, 469 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: and I think that I would bet that's the Ravens 470 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: pick in the second round. 471 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 4: I know one thing we always see and it's I 472 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: feel like it always happens, especially from round one to 473 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 4: round two, is everyone's saying will you trade up? 474 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 3: Will you trade up? 475 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 4: Because you look at the guys here, You're looking at 476 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: like who's in the mix, and then everyone gets excited 477 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: and you spend all you know, Friday thinking about it. 478 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: You know. 479 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 4: Eric Deacosta said like five times during the post draft 480 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 4: press conference, like we're really not a trade up team. 481 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 3: That's that's really speaking to round one. But I fans 482 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: I don't. 483 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 4: I don't think there's gonna be some massive trade up 484 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 4: from the weather picking in the second round to early 485 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 4: in the second round. 486 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: Like I don't see that. 487 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 4: The Costa has said said over and over again, I'm 488 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: not a trade up guy, Like that's not really what 489 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: we think is the best approach. So I don't think 490 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 4: the Ravens are going to all a sudden move up 491 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: to the early second round to get a tackle. Or 492 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 4: receiver or a pass rusher. I don't see that happening. 493 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: I think they're going to sit there and pick Blake. 494 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: Fisher another name to know. 495 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: I would say to toss since that makes another Notre 496 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: Dame tackle who some people say are just as talented, 497 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: if not more so, than Joe Alt. 498 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: It's consistent, but he's got the ceiling. 499 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 4: He was more highly recruited coming out of high school, 500 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 4: I believe, and obviously didn't have the college crowd that 501 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 4: Joe Alt did, but still a really talented player. 502 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that that would be a very and he 503 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: played right tackle and their name, so that would be 504 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: a very interesting pick for the Ravens as well. 505 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: Somebody to watch. And there's a bunch of receivers that 506 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: are still out there. 507 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: I think actually Blake Fisher is a good one. I 508 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 4: think that he's a I think that like their Damed tackle, 509 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: they've done that before. 510 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: They've done that before. Yeah, yeah, Blake Fisher would seem 511 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: to be a good match, you know, and wide receiver. 512 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: There's a number of them you get in the second 513 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: third round here. If we're talking what maybe a third 514 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: round pick could be, I think there could be a 515 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: there could be a receiver at the second round. That's interesting, 516 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: and then you get into the third round there's gonna 517 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: be a bunch of names, I think, and that the 518 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: third round I think is more of a sweet spot 519 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: for receiver. If the Ravens are going to go that 520 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: way or edge that's the other big need. 521 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if I'm guessing Friday, I'm thinking. 522 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: Tackles, you tackle receiver or tackle edge. 523 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's tough. 524 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 525 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: I'm honestly not sure. 526 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: Tackle running back. 527 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: Well, I have receiver in my mock. I had Brendan 528 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: Rice in my market in the third round, So I 529 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: don't think. I don't stick to it. I don't think 530 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 3: it's going to be a running back. 531 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: No, I mean you could, you could go tackle guard. 532 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: You could just go That's what I went with. Yeah, 533 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: I doubled down. Yeah, not impossible. It's not impossible. I 534 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: mean they could just say we're just gonna build up 535 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: the offensive line. We told you we're gonna do it. 536 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: Didn't do it in the first round, We're doing it 537 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: on day two. 538 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: Exactly. We're taking two shots exactly how they approached the 539 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 2: tight end position. 540 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've done that. 541 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: Just go back to back. 542 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: They've done that. They've done it. They did it with 543 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: Mark Andrews and Hayden Hurst. They did it with Isaiah 544 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 4: Likely and Charlie Kohler, they did with Dennis Pitta and 545 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 4: Dixon ed Dixon. 546 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 3: So like it. 547 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 2: It's how they roll at tight end. Maybe it applies 548 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: to offensive line here. 549 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 4: So if you want to check out all the press 550 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: conferences from Thursday night, we got a chance to talk 551 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 4: with the Wigs on a zoom and also heard from 552 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 4: Erics Costa and John Harbaugh. Those are posted in the 553 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 4: Ravens press Pass podcast feed. Head over there check those out. 554 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 4: We're gonna be doing a podcast again after the full 555 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: draft on Saturday, So Saturday night, when it's all said 556 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 4: and done, we're gonna have another episode of the Lounge. 557 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 4: It's gonna drop, and those press Pass podcasts will be 558 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 4: dropping throughout the weekend for all those Player Prospect pressers 559 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 4: and when we hear from Eric and John. So thank 560 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 4: you so much for listening. Make sure you leave it 561 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 4: rating in a review and subscribe. We'll talk to you 562 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: again later this weekend.