WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Digg’n It, Primed to Contend in ’23? 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:07.760 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:09.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:17.560 Cowboys Let's go. 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:19.640 Are you ready for a break? Yes? 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:21.520 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:22.320 Absolutely? 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.439 Ready for a break? 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.640 Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:31.080 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:32.160 We were on. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:39.040 With Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:52.200 It is Wednesday, July twenty six, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen, 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:56.040 episode number eleven. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.200 We're alive from the twenty twenty three Cowboys training cop 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.279 camp in Oxen, California, and we're ready for a new 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:04.520 season here on the Break. We got some new things 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.440 for you guys this season. We got a long step, 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.440 a long time member of our team who is no 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.320 longer on the Break staff. He will be branching off 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.200 into his own show, Nick Eaton, starting up a new 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.920 show called Cowboy Storyline. Check the website mobile app later 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.880 today tomorrow, I think for his first episode of that show. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.920 But we've got joining our show one and only, mister Patrick. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:32.360 Walker, joining Brian, joining Amber, and we're now ready to 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:33.240 get this thing rolling. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:33.679 Thank you. 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.200 Patrick for joining us. We're excited to have you on 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:36.639 the show. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.360 And let's go for those that haven't I guess followed 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.080 your work, give us a little bit of a taste of, Yeah, 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.520 a little taste of kind of where you've been and 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:46.399 what you've been doing. 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.000 Obviously, you on the B Show. 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.920 And so now we've moved you up to Varsity time 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.040 step up, but talk a little bit about that. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.400 I like your background and how long you've been covering 0:01:58.400 --> 0:01:58.800 this team. 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.000 Well, first of all, shouts out to Talking Cowboys and 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.000 my guys over there, Kyle and Rob who's not with us, 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.440 but Nick Harris and as Isaiah standback obviously, but prior 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.120 to coming into the organization, covered the team for several 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.079 years with CBS Sports, prior to that, twenty four to 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.359 seven Sports and that entire outfit. And it's always been 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.600 a pleasure of me to not only cover the team 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:23.920 but be a lifelong fan of the team. So, for 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.639 those that don't know about me, this tattoo right here 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.160 that I got when I was in college, I'm. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.280 Quite literally a massive Cowboys fan. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.600 But the beauty of it is is being able to 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.720 separate the science, as I call it, from the fandom, 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.640 so I get to enjoy it on two different fronts 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.160 when it's enjoyable. So and now I'm on the on 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.200 this team when I go to say A or B, 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.520 and I'm on this team with some heavy hitters, and 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:49.360 I'm just looking forward to contributed. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:50.320 Yeah. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.320 I'll tell you what though, it's I know this is 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.880 the first time I've I've known you a long time, 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:00.359 long time, always respected your work from AFAR. A matter 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.119 of fact, you and I've gotten some arguments before, corrected 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.160 each other on stuff, and it's worked out great. Super 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.120 excited about working with you as I always and I've 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.320 won an award with that lady sitting to your left, 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.880 and this is yeah, this guy that he'll direct you 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.119 all the way you need to go. But I really 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:18.600 do look forward to it to be a lot of really 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.320 good conversation. I look forward to, like you know, the 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.240 post game stuff, the breakdowns during the week, getting ready 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.520 for the opponents. I think that fans of the break 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.880 should be super excited about the lineup that Derek Eagleton 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:32.000 has rolled out here today. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:33.360 Really great job, boss. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.600 Well, we'll see how it goes. I feel really good 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.120 about this one. I think we got extited, to be 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:38.600 honest with you, across all of our shows, I think 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.400 we got some really really good fits. Adding John showed 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:42.440 at the Talking Cowboys. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:43.960 I think that's a big right there. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.800 Absolutely, and then obviously getting that brand new show with Nick. 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.520 I think we got a lot of things in store 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:48.920 for fans. 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:50.080 I think fans are gonna enjoy it. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.840 I know, I know people don't like change. Just trust 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.000 me on this and it's gonna be fine. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:55.840 We'll make it work. All right, let's jump in. Let's 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:56.840 talk some Cowboys football. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.440 Let's talk about Trayvon Diggs and got paid yesterday the 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.560 five year, ninety seven million dollar contract. Patrick, What are 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.280 the I guess the details of the deal. 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.320 Well, first of all, it definitely was a pleasant surprise 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.560 with the Cowboys having so many heavy hitters that they 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.120 need to try to get on the contract for the 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.840 long term. Talk about Ceedee Lamb, Trevon Diggs is one 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.800 of those Michael Parsons's coming up as well, and now 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.280 we have Zach Martin conversation. But to be able to 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.720 lock up Treyvon Diggs five year extension which totals out 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.720 to six years, because he's going into year four of 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.279 his rookie deal with no fifth year option, second round pick, 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.000 so it's ultimately a six year deal worth upwards of 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.279 one hundred million dollars. Technically it's ninety seven, but you know, 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:34.880 reports are that it could be up to a hundred 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.280 or even one hundred and four million dollars. So it 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.560 slots right into something that you said, Brian offline that 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.960 hits perfectly. It's right in Stephen Jones' wheelhouse. It doesn't 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.719 set the market, but it gets the player right where 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.479 he needs to be. So there's that sweet spot that 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:52.719 was struck, and now you have inarguably the best cornerback 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.120 in this franchise's history since Dion Sanders at shouts out 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.120 to Terrence Newman, who was a great cornerback, but he 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.599 wasn't able to do with a guy like Diggs has 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.520 done in the first three seasons. So Diggs has locked 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.960 up five year extension upwards of one hundred million dollars. 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.080 Bravo to both Digs, his agent, and the Cowboys organization 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:09.760 for getting it done. 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.680 Yeah, this was the one I felt like that was 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.880 going to be really, really tough, and because I was thinking, okay, 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.240 where you know, we have a history here with the 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:22.839 Diggs brothers are outspoken, even to the point where where. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.720 We were talking about Madden numbers. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.680 Like you know, it's all it's trash, it's all that. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.600 And you're thinking, man, this is a competitive family, and 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.120 you know, so you're thinking, like, well, without that fifth 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.960 year option, really that safety net. I mean, there's they're 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.279 talking about tags and all this thing kind of going through. 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:41.599 But this was the one that I thought was going 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.520 to be trouble for Steven Jones. 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:45.680 Out of Pacific and those guys. 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.159 But in fact, though, like you said, Patrick, this one 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.600 was right in their wheelhouse because it didn't set the market. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.159 It wasn't the thing that blew everything away. It was 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.880 a very it's very creative the way they used his 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.480 current contract to add the extension and to even bring 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:04.040 the number down even more. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:05.359 You know, it's don't look at look at this. 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.680 Like a sixteen million dollar you know, and you're thinking, like, 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.280 when you look at the top corners in the league, 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.320 they're all making twenty one, twenty two million dollars a year. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:17.960 And to get him at the fifth spot with his ability, 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.880 great job by the player getting it done, great job 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.720 by the agent, and great job by the front office 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:25.279 for making it all work together. 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.920 So Amber Willills, I was gonna say, it feels really 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:32.000 really good because that's one less thing to worry about 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:35.840 at this time. Also, looking into this season, I know 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.599 last year there were a lot of criticism people that 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:44.200 would criticize Diggs for his level of play, how hard 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:48.119 he would go and tackle those things that maybe alway, 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.680 is he taking just care of himself to get that 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.359 big contract or taking care of his body so he 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.960 doesn't get injured. Now that's out of the question. He 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.400 got the deal done. He's going to be here in 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:03.839 Dallas for at least six more seasons for the Cowboys. 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.920 So that's really good that we're starting off training camp 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:08.720 knowing that he's locked in and ready to go. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.560 So what do you guys think is the most difficult 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.160 contract they have left? You got Ceedee Lamb coming up, 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.880 you got Michah Parsons, you got Dak coming up, and 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:18.480 you got Zack Martin coming up. And we'll talk a 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.040 little bit later on the show about Zach and what 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.080 all's going on with him. But you look at those 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.680 big contracts. Obviously, Terrence Steele not as big a contracts. 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.360 I'm really focused more on those really big deals that 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.360 could be like market setting type deals, which you think 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.000 is going to be the most difficult of those four. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.200 I'm going right to Michael Parsons. When it comes time 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.120 to start talking to Michael Parson's contract, it gets more 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.520 complex because is he truly a linebacker or is he 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.880 truly a edge rusher off of the line, Because that's 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.440 my answer, He's an edge rusher. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.080 The stats bear that out as well. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.840 So that's gonna make for a more robust and complex 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.960 conversation between Micah and his agent and the Cowboys front office. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:55.960 And as we all. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:08:01.400 Know, there's a very large chasm between linebacker money top 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:02.280 defensive end money. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:03.680 So for me, it's going to be Michael Parsons. 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.720 I kind of feel like this one with Dak Prescott's 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.440 not getting any easier. Yeah, you know, with what we've 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:13.160 seen with with Herbert and then and then my guy 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.680 Joe Burrow at Cincinnati is going to sign a massive 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.880 deal too. And I give Dak Prescott credit for one thing. 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.880 He's played this the right way. He really has. If 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.160 you look at how he had to deal with the 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.120 tag situations, the things that they had to do to 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.880 kind of make sure that they got the contract done. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:32.160 You know, his. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.040 Agent, Todd Frantz, has not made it easy on but 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.600 that's his job. His job's not to make it easy. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.560 And the guys that do the cap here they know that, 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.560 they know that with all these contracts. I love what 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:46.240 you're talking about with Parsons, you know, because Parsons has 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:51.520 a legitimate, you know, legitimate point about his defensive ability. 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.880 When you start to talk about the great defensive players 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:58.200 around the league, his name always gets mentioned. It doesn't 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.320 take long to call the role, you know, with his group, 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.760 and so I think that could be tough. But as 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.120 long as these quarterback numbers keep inching up, then all 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.280 of a sudden, Dak Prescott's you know, Dak Prescott's learned 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.600 how to play the short game here. You know, He's like, 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.680 I'm not interested in your long term stuff. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:15.640 Give me let me. 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:16.200 You know. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.520 It's almost like, you know, it's almost like Lebron James 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.720 and his one year deals where he just keeps getting 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.480 a bite at the apple every time. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.319 But you know, that season ends. 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.040 So I think that's the one that's going to be 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.079 because I don't think they're gonna give I don't think 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:31.920 there's gonna be any discounts on this one. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:33.240 I really don't real quick. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:33.720 On that note. 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.360 You think back to when they were negotiating Dak's deal, 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.800 and even like the year before that, we were talking 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.360 numbers in the thirties. We were talking thirty five, thirty 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.400 sixty seven. Now you've got a number of quarterbacks who've 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.640 already pushed over fifty. It has made a I think 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.360 a massive jump, probably more than any other position in 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.360 the mouth that the best players at the position are 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:55.880 now being paid with all these contracts and they still 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:56.640 got burrow to do. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.160 Where's Burrow gonna end up? So, yeah, you're right, just 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:00.360 the numbers alone own. 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.000 Of what what's going to make it a little more 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:03.280 difficult to get Dak done. 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.240 Yeah, as the quarterbacks are walking by, the running backs 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:07.240 going oh, excuse me. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:07.760 Excuse me. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.360 You know, it's it's kind of like it's kind of 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.360 it's kind of are you checking at the airlines? 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:13.280 You in group three? 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.520 Are three? No, you're not? Okaya? Group three? Group three? 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:16.959 Step back. 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.360 The quarterbacks are all doing in group one, and those 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:25.920 running backs are sitting in group nine. 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:30.760 Right now, where we go with the you. 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:35.400 Know, it's just insane going back to Bryan's point about 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:40.280 this short uh term the Yes, it's just crazy to 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.040 me that we're sitting here talking about Dak's contract again 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.520 again when it feels like it was yesterday thought we 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.719 were discussing his contract with the cow was so. But 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.319 it seems to me that based on everything we've heard 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:57.240 from the Cowboys and Jerry Johones, Stephen, Mike McCarthy as well, 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.440 their level of commitment with Dak is there, like it 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.680 absolutely they're backing him up and there they have shown 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.960 to be full all in with Dak. So I think 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.880 that don't figure out a way to get that one done. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:15.040 But I would say I'm with uh Patrick on this 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.400 one as far as Micah Parsons, just being a lot 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:22.240 more complex and giving Micah's personality, not saying, you know, 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.040 I don't know Micah's agent, I don't know how he 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.880 is or anything. But based on personalities and how these 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.760 guys are, I think Micah's seems that it's gonna be 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.679 a lot more of a headache and getting it done. 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.120 All right, We're gonna take our first break, could you see? 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.680 Real quick? Though, Mike is so outspoken that you know 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:42.439 you're gonna. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.440 Hear a lot of I mean, yeah, it'll be one 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.520 of those things where like you know, the guys over 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.560 here in the cap and with the cot with the 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.320 front off his guys, they keep everything buttoned down. They 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.840 really do keep it all buttoned down, and they believe 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.360 in the back and forth. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:58.400 But it has to be that. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.680 But with Micah, it's going to be there's gonna be 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:03.120 words You're probably gonna hear. 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.040 Initially that you're like, whoa, wait a minute, and then 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:05.680 get ready. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.000 Like we were talking about early in our pre show meeting, 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.400 it could be like Beyonce the Beehive, you know, you know, 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.760 if the fan base will come on front office, what 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:15.360 are you doing? 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.560 You know, and then attack. 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:18.680 Let's just be clear. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.520 I don't think there's any way that the Cowboys will 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:22.480 lose Michael Parsons. 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:23.679 They'll figure it out. 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.559 That's the thing I've never in the years I've been 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.400 with the team, I've never seen a player that they 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.079 truly wanted that they ultimately didn't end up getting. You 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.839 can make an argument maybe for Gregory because of the 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.760 way that played out, but the fact of the matter 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.160 is I very rarely have seen them in situations if 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:41.640 they want a player and By the way, if they 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.800 want to play really bad, I've never seen them losing 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.480 player they want really bad. Because, by the way, you 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.480 can always pay the amount of money that can get 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:48.959 the deal done or figure out the way to get it. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:50.720 And this is a young generational talent. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:52.839 You're gonna figure out a way to get it done, 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.520 be it restructures on contracts to create the cap, whether 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.280 it be letting a couple guys at the bottom of 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.520 the Rouster goal, you're gonna you're gonna make it done. 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:01.880 Oh, make sure it gets done for my. 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.160 All furnace to the Cowboys real quick. Though. On the 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.880 Randy Gregory thing, and I love Randy Gregor, I really do. 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.960 I feel like his agent pushed that deal. I think 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:11.560 Randy really wanted to be here, and I think the 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.920 Cowboys felt like that they had a deal done. You know, 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.400 the agent's you know Colorado Bay, so you know, it 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:17.880 works out for him and good for Randy. 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:18.640 He got paid and. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.080 He got paid, and by the way, it worked out 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.040 for the Cowboys too, So I think everybody got kind 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:23.120 of what they needed with that. 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.720 Yeah, right, that what you would say. And now guys 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:32.200 get to go and get Sam Wood to breakouts, so 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:32.880 it worked out forever. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:34.640 Yeah, all right, were gonna take our first break. 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This 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.080 segment of the show brought to you by blockchain dot 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:30.640 com ding. 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.520 You heard the ding, of course from our producer Chris Beam. 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.000 All right, here's what we're gonna do. 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.560 I got a little game for you guys called agreed, disagree, disagree. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:40.440 I got four statements. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.160 There were four statements yesterday in the opening press conference 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.120 from Jerry Jones that I'm gonna throw at you guys, 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:47.680 and I want. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.080 You to tell me if you agree with them or 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:50.080 you disagree. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.360 With them, that the break Show should be paid more 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.240 than anybody. I agree, I agree. 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:58.680 Now let's go for it, all right, So here we go. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.080 First one, When asked about the team as a possible contender, 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.679 Jerry responds, we have a team that can compete for 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:05.399 the top spot. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.920 Agree, disagree, Agree. 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:09.080 Agree agree? 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:10.440 Wow all agree? 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:11.440 Okay, I agree? 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:11.919 Would you not? 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:13.000 No? 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:12.800 No? 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:14.320 But I did. I expect that. 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.560 I expect that some people probably raise their eyebrows, like okay, 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.679 here we go again, because you know, the national narrative 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.000 is always okay. 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.560 It's kind of like texta my Texas team, like we're back. 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.520 Like people love to jump on the bandwagon when they 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.159 think that the team is good. I agree with you, 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:32.560 I know, but I expect there may be some raised eyebrows. 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.080 All the concerns I had I feel like the Cowboys 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:40.240 have addressed this offseason, except for two parts. 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:40.600 One. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.600 I am still kind of concerned in a combination of 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:50.560 online running backs, so just a running running game overall, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.359 there's a question mark there for me. And then the 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:58.840 other part is kicker, I think we're once again in 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.600 this That's the one part where once again I feel 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.520 like on the same boat as last year as far 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.400 as like they haven't really brought much competition or they're 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.080 just kind of done the same thing as they did 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.400 last year. So those are my two concerned But in all, 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.840 looking at the team as a whole, I just I 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:18.760 feel like they do have everything they need to be 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.760 capable of competing and getting to that next level. 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:23.960 So I'll address it in two parts. 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.800 One, I understand the narrative, but I will say it's 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.960 it's markedly different than the back end of the Jason 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.080 Garrett era. When you hear Jerry Jones say I think 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:33.680 we can be a contender, then you could kind of 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.680 sit back and say, come on, something major's gotta be 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.760 shaken up. But if you look at the McCarthy era, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:40.920 and you look at these past two seasons in particular 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:42.800 twelve and five year in the playoffs, twelve and five 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:44.880 year in the second round of the playoffs, the progression 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.080 is there, the building is there? The defense we were 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.439 talking about it yesterday. It's wild. Just two or three 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.760 years ago we were leaning on the offense. Yeah, now 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.360 the Cowboys are We're asking should they lean on the defense. 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.400 Defense is set and it's gotten better on paper. Offensively, 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.439 you go on, you make moves, Brandon with just the 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.679 counterpart trade with Stefan Gilmore. So, Yeah, you still have 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.919 question marks offensive line, running back room kicker is a 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:08.720 big one for me. But if you sit back and 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.040 you look at the totality of it, there's no reason 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.000 this team should not be mentioned in the same breath 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:15.560 as the Eagles and the forty nine ers as far 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:16.439 as the top the NFC. 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:18.560 That's the reason why right there, while they have a 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.960 chant because all of a sudden, they're look with all 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.040 the quarterbacks are, all the quarterbacks are in the AFC. 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:26.400 This conference is for the taking. 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:28.640 You know, you feel good about Yes, you match up, 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.040 you know easily when you go to Philadelphia or they 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:31.960 come to at and T. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:32.960 You kind of. 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:36.560 Feel like, okay, rosters matchup depending on how the quarterbacks play, 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.320 could be could be a turnover one way or another 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.720 that decides this game, or one team just gets steamrolled. 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:43.000 You know. 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.679 With the Eagles, you kind of have that feeling that 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.520 you could beat them on any given day. Forty nine 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:52.200 ers not so much. But see when Aaron Rodgers leaves 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.600 this conference, it goes you know, and I'm thinking about 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:57.679 what you have to go through. We'll see what's up 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.280 in Detroit, you know, we'll see what's up with them, 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:03.080 We'll see what's up with the Commanders and the Giants 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.200 and all these other teams in the division as well. 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:06.960 But the conference is for the. 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:10.199 Taking because the team's potentially that you have to deal with. 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:13.080 It's not like dealing with things going on in the AFC. 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.400 All right, Next question, our next statement. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:20.359 When asked about Tony Pollard and his contract situation running backs, 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.800 Jerry responded, the franchise tag fit that situation very well. 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:27.720 Agreed, disagree, agree. 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:29.800 Yeah, I agree. 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.960 But the thing about it, it's the fact I thought 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.200 Stephen Jones was quick to mention that they did try 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:36.360 and offer him a long term deal. 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:37.280 He had to put that out there. 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:41.000 Yeah, he let it be known that wait a minute, now, 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.840 we we we're okay with the franchise tag, but we 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.800 tried to offer a long term deal here and he decided. 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:51.240 And mentioned as well a long time and I think that. 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:52.920 We might be in a similar path here. 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:54.800 I think we might be in a similar path to 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:58.040 where and we'll see what happens with this running back 0:20:58.119 --> 0:20:59.359 stuff for these guys has. 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:00.480 Been very, very difficult. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.760 And I had the question of has analytics ruined the 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:07.760 running back? You know, has analytics all these departments now though, 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.240 these analytics guys and gals, and they're. 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.800 All saying throw it, throw it, throw it, and me. 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.439 Old krusty guy, is like, I'm from an era of 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.120 run it, run it, you know, I'm from that era 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:20.720 and I still think there's importance with the running backs. 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.560 But I think it fit the Cowboys. And how quickly 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.160 Pollard signed the tag told you'd fit him right there. 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.960 Yeah, And for me it's it's twofold number one. The 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:34.000 running back market is so depressed that it's actually depressing 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.200 to look at. But from the Cowboys aspect. In Tony 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.879 Pollard's aspect, Pollard is coming off of a rookie contract 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.400 in which he was not the number one guy. 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:44.359 It was Ezekiel Elliott. 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:46.960 So the Cowboys have yet to see Tony Pollard as 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:50.360 the definitive number one guy. So, yes, they offered him 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.639 a long term deal, but I could understand their comfort 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:54.680 and saying, you know, if you want us to up 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:55.440 the money. 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:56.960 Here's your true prove it season. 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:58.920 So you could argue last year was kind of a 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.560 prove it season, but here it is right here, and 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:03.399 I mean at ten point one million dollars. 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:04.880 You know, how can you go wrong when it comes 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:05.560 to the salary cup. 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:09.480 Well, not only that the fact that he hasn't been 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:14.000 the number one running back yet completely, but also the 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.960 whole injury thing. And I know, I'm no doctor, I'm 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.680 not in there. I don't know how he is physically 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:21.720 and all that, and what we've seen so far he 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:26.359 looks good. But I'm always hesitating, like to give someone 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:28.600 a long term deal or you know, even. 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:30.720 If it's just two three years coming. 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:35.720 It's just something that you just haven't seen it. You 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:39.840 just haven't seen him full go just yet. And I 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:44.000 mean they feel confident about him being the guy for 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:47.440 this year, but there's still a lot of question marks 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:49.960 there that we haven't just we haven't seen just yet. 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:51.479 Yeah, I have to say this. I've been waiting all 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:55.240 off season to say this. This whole thing with running backs. 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.600 This is basic economics. Like the first class I took 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:00.719 at Texas, it was an economics class, and I remember 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.280 them talking specifically one day about the fact that when 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:08.520 supply increases, that drives down price. That's all that's happening 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:10.560 here is you have a number of running backs that 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:12.720 are coming into the league, and what teams have realized 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:14.200 is that they're plentiful. 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:15.320 There are lots of them. 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:17.760 And by the way, what you get the production you 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:21.679 get from a seventh eighth year veteran running back and 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:22.440 what you get. 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.040 From a rookie running back right now, but. 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:25.320 I'm just saying, and what you get from a rookie 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:28.359 running back is not terribly different. And so when you 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:31.919 have a large amount of supply and they're pretty comparable, 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.000 what ends up happening is price goes down. The cost 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:38.480 of getting one is cheaper. And so that's all that's happening. 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:38.680 Now. 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:40.600 The other thing you gotta remember is this also can 0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.080 flip too, because sometimes when you drive that price down, 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:45.840 what ends up happening is supply also goes down. What 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:49.159 starts happening is kids in little league, in middle school 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.400 ball and high school ball, Dad saying, hey, son, we're 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:54.760 not gonna play running back. We're gonna play wide receiver. 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:57.760 You'll think me right, We're gonna play linebacker. You'll thank 0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:59.920 me later. And what ends up happening is now you 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.680 have a less kids wanting to play that position, and 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.439 you have a less supply. The most talented athletes are 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:07.760 not going to running back anymore. They're going to other positions, 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.639 and then it's driving that price back up because it's 0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:12.560 harder to find a good But this is all cyclical, 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:13.640 it's all economics. 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:14.639 This is all economics. 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:18.040 That's economics is cyclical because you know, not so long ago, 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.919 it was a league that was so quarterback driven, so 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:25.600 past offense driven, that felt that any team would take 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.480 a running back in the top ten, top five. But 0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:32.280 then here comes Ezekiel Elliott, Derek Henry, Christian McCaffrey, Leonard Fournette, 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:36.119 and then the running backs were the stars there, John Robinson, 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:37.400 they were the star of the show. And b Jon 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.840 kind of broke ranking. As we're talking about the press 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:43.360 RB market. But in that stretch of time it cycled 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.520 back to running backs being valuable, and now their their 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:48.680 market is depressed. But inevitably, as. 0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:50.800 Economics goes, for one reason or another. 0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:51.520 It's going. 0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:54.000 I believe it'll get back to them, but just right now, 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:54.959 it's got to be figured out. 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:55.880 The running back. 0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:57.760 Okay, we always talked about, oh you could take a 0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.840 third or fourth or fifth round guy. Maybe the stupid 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:04.240 scouts missed these running backs instead of them being fifth, sixth, 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.040 seventh round running backs like the Pacheco in Kansas City, 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:09.280 maybe he should have been taken in the second round. 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:11.440 You know, maybe I know it's all you could just 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:14.200 you could plug anybody in and all that. Maybe there's 0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.159 been some misevaluation about the running back position that all 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:18.840 of a sudden these guys show up or they're in 0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:22.840 a small school that the colleges didn't you know, didn't 0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:24.840 recruit the right kid, and all of a sudden he 0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:29.000 ends up at Directional Louisiana School instead of ending up 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:30.320 at LSU or. 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:33.800 Someplace like that. Yeah, So, to me, like the talent 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.000 for and the need for running backs are still there. 0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:40.000 I think the evaluation of the running back and just 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.160 to say, oh you could take them or get them anywhere, 0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.239 I think there's been a lot of misevaluation of how 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:46.080 good these guys were. 0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.400 That's actually the biggest problem is is like you're saying everyone, 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.360 in my opinion, needs to stop lumping all running backs 0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:54.119 into one bucket and saying I can just pick from 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.119 this bucket whenever I want and get the same or 0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.639 similar production. That's not always the case. I've always been 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.000 a champion enough hashtag run matter. But in that being said, 0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.760 I also state that not all running backs are the 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.800 same as the other running backs, right. Not every running 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.840 back coming out of college is capable as b John Robinson, 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:13.040 Ezekiel Elliott, Dereck Henry. You're gonna have some guys that 0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:16.320 are capable, but they're true fourth, fifth, sixth round guys, 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.160 and I think the conversation needs to be let's stop 0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.720 assuming that a guy who justifiably is a sixth round 0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.040 flyer can step in and do the production as a 0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:28.800 Dereck Henry. When that conversation becomes more rightful and more justifiable, 0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:30.440 then I think things will start to turn. 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:34.439 You watching Christian McCaffrey play when the teams know how 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.359 to use him, Yeah, you know, when they throw him 0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:38.160 the ball in the swing and the screens and stuff. 0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:40.840 Like I told I told the running back coach here, 0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:42.800 I said, listen, hey, you figure out how to run 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.040 a screen game for this football team. I'll throw a 0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.640 parade for you in downtown Dallas. You know, I can't 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.280 tell you the last time they threw the ball the 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.320 running back. If you find these some of these coordinators 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.480 find ways to get these guys going to where all 0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.680 of a sudden's like, okay, I see the value here. 0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.280 I see the matchup values here, you know, and I 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:05.480 you know, I think it's I find it's wrong, and 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.800 it's the position is devalued. I really do. 0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:10.440 Kansas City won the Super Bowl because what they could 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.479 do Mahomes wasn't great. All of a sudden, what did 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.960 they start doing. They started running the football in the 0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.399 second half. They blocked Philadelphia up front and were able 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.080 to kill that game running it. 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:21.520 You know. 0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.240 So to me, I kind of feel like there is 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:25.560 value for that. I live that. 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.280 I lived that working for the Packers and watching EMMITTT. 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.840 Smith then build a lead in those games and just 0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.200 hammer the ball at us and we couldn't stop them. 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:37.400 You know, there's value in that destroying somebody's will to compete, 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:38.639 and running backs do that. 0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.399 In my opinion, yeah, no, I think everyone agrees with 0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:43.959 the value of what they are, and what I mean 0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.159 by that is what they bring to the game. But 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.000 the point is that most teams a starting most teams 0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:50.800 are starting to realize that you can just get one 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:52.920 for cheaper. Because I thought it was interesting when you said, 0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:54.960 you know, there may be a misevaluation of player. 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.400 Here's what I would ask you. One of the things 0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.520 I've always wondered is it's. 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:00.840 Not a lot well, no, no, no. 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.520 From the standpoint of where I sit, where you know, 0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:05.960 playing fantasy football is not obviously how it works there. 0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:07.880 But in fantasy football, when you look at a draft, 0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.040 the way you think about it is it's not necessarily 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:11.840 where the player deserves to go, it's where can I 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:12.440 get the player. 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:12.679 Right. 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.119 So there might be a player who is worthy of 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.399 being a second round pick, right, but I know in 0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:18.679 my draft I can get him in. 0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:20.639 The fourth round. Then I'm gonna put him in the 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:21.200 fourth round. 0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.080 So I think for the running backs, I don't know 0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.639 that I necessarily think it's a misevaluation as much as 0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:29.960 teams are starting to realize because everybody else has devalued 0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.000 the PI position to some degree, I can get a 0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.320 guy that maybe has talent to be a first second 0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:36.520 third rounder. I can maybe get him in the fourth round. 0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:38.480 I can maybe get him in the fifth round, because 0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:40.560 that's where everybody would normally take them. 0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:42.840 Yeah. And to me though, I. 0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.760 Were when we were on the draft show leading up 0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.760 to the draft and we kept talking about Bjon Robinson 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.600 and like, well, he could go with seven, he could 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:54.520 go at ten, he could go at twenty six, he 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:55.520 could go with thirty two. 0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:56.680 And he's very talented. 0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.080 And it was ridiculous to me when they started talking 0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.480 about that Dallas could probably get him, you know, it 0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.000 was ridiculous. I go, this is one of the best 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.400 football players regardless of position in the country, you know. 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:09.920 And where he went to Atlanta. I was like, there 0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:13.480 you go, that's where he should have gone. And so 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:17.360 to me that makes sense. But I think where people 0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.920 have problems is where how much these running. 0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.120 Backs get paid. You know, what are you getting for 0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.560 fifteen million dollars? So what are you getting for twelve 0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:26.280 million dollars? 0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.120 I'll tell you what. And this is my final point 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:28.600 on the matter. 0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:32.320 If you're a team that's, you know, trying to figure 0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:34.800 out your offensive line, then you better have your running 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:36.720 back position figure it out or you can't. You can't 0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.360 be trying to figure out both of those things at 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.400 the same time. So if you if your O line 0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.200 is is in flux, you would like to hope that 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:44.920 you have your running back situation set up. 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Get your Training Camp preview today 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:27.840 at Dallascowboys dot com slash Star. 0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.000 Welcome back to the final segment of The Break, live 0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:35.160 from Oxen Art, California. Mentioning that Star magazine this is 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.440 I love this thing because heading into training camp, I 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.920 spent a few weeks like going through this every day, 0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.480 just familiarizing myself with all the names, all the players, 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.560 all the different things you gotta know when you get 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:48.320 it ready to do a show. 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:49.960 I think for a fan this is invaluable. 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:51.960 If you are a big Cowboys fan, you need this 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:53.760 thing because it does allow you to just kind of 0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:55.800 know where we are, know where we set the table 0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:57.920 for this upcoming season as we enter training camp. 0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:58.400 So make sure go. 0:32:58.440 --> 0:32:59.080 I check it out. 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:04.160 Just because I've made a post on my Instagram about 0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:07.320 it and I got so so many people asking me 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:11.680 about the schedule poster that we see something normal, we 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.400 just pull it out and put it all over. But 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:18.000 it's crazy the amount of people that actually want to. 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:19.000 Have this poster. 0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:20.800 It's really cool to you just pull it out of 0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.920 the magazine, put it somewhere and you just can follow 0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:24.640 the whole schedule. 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:26.800 And is that it used to be in your desk 0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:28.320 where you had it up and then there was a 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.560 bad loss and you wrote something yours were or something. 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.240 Yeah, outside game, like you write the score. 0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:36.760 Like win win win, and then like it'd be a 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:40.880 loss and then you would write some curse word about 0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:41.320 the game. 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:43.760 But you know something. You go through our office and 0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:44.800 you'll go through the desk. 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:47.160 You can count the number of desks that had this 0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.840 up like I about everybody puts it up. 0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:51.960 It's such a quick it's such a quick reference and 0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.120 losses down. And she would she'd write curse words in 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:56.440 Spanish after a bad game. 0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:00.320 Well, I have an X over the preseason games OS 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.920 and it's is I d C because I don't care about. 0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.480 About everybody stay healthy? Question everybody stay healthy. 0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:10.920 I got two more comments from you guys from the 0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:11.840 opening press conference. 0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:13.520 We're asking you if you agree or disagree. 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:17.279 When ask about Mike McCarthy taking over the offense, Jerry responded, 0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.719 it's not about what Kellen wasn't, but about what Mike is. 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:21.960 You agree or disagree? 0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:28.560 That's a that's an interesting one because I have mixed 0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:32.040 feeling about it. One I haven't fully seen, or I 0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.919 don't think we have in this team. Obviously, we haven't 0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:38.200 fully seen Mike McCarthy calling the place and taking. 0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:38.719 Over that role. 0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:43.640 I thought Kellen Moore this pied the areas where he lacked. 0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.759 I think overall, he started his career very very good, 0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:50.000 and he took the Cowboys to another level. He elevated 0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:53.279 the Cowboys offense. And it's shown by proof that there 0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.840 were in many areas the number one in the league, 0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.560 but there were still they didn't get to where they 0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.320 needed There were a lot of areas that needed improvement overall. 0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.800 Going back to that time, I still have problems with 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.640 thinking that despite you having different ideas and not wanting 0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:14.239 to butt heads with your offensive coordinator, I still think 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.680 there were times that you as a head coach, and 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.120 we don't know this fully, but that I think maybe 0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.879 he should have taken over, Maybe he should have intervened 0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:25.000 because there goes that season. That season is gone, and 0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.359 we thought at the time the Coways had a shot. 0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:30.640 I think the last few years we thought the Cowboys 0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:31.399 have had a shot. 0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.480 And so I don't know. 0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:38.000 I'm curious to see how well McCarthy does. I think 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:41.200 he came to training camp in really really good spirits. 0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.040 You guys know, well, you know, Derek and I've talked 0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:47.040 about this on the show before. I'm super about vibes 0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:51.200 and energy and all that body language. I like to 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:55.279 observe those things, and McCarthy came out here with his 0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.840 energy on point. He got out of out of that 0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:03.320 plane for hoppy gaming thumbs up. So I'm excited to 0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:08.319 just see him take over that role. But I mean 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.759 that's a great way for Jerry to put it, because 0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:12.960 what else can you say about that you appreciate what 0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.360 Kellen did for you, but also now you're turning the 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.399 page and giving McCarthy the chance. 0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:19.840 I agree with that that part of the statement from Jerry, 0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.840 and and because I'm on record as saying I believe 0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:26.439 that Kellen Moore was underrated by most of the fan base. 0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:30.200 I think Kellen Moore was a very very capable offensive coordinator. 0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:32.160 But two things can be true at the same time. 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.680 And the other side of that truth is Kellen Moore's 0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.840 tendencies often got in his way of what might have 0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.759 been a better situational play called talk about how the 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.480 game winning Green Bay, talk about how the game winning Jacksonville. 0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:45.560 When you have a lead like that, you kind. 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.640 Of want to start going to old school, maybe get 0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:50.239 that run, run the ball in, work the clock. But 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:55.040 with Kellen Moore's exit to Los Angeles, now we're not 0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.200 only going to see Mike McCarthy, who is in fantastic sperience. 0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.719 He said himself, he's having fun. He's on the plays again. 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.439 But the question now is he's going into year four 0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:06.640 of what's reportedly a five year contract it's time for 0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:10.680 the Cowboys to see if there's an evolved Mike McCarthy 0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.840 as a play caller, as this is a pivotal season 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.120 for this offense, Mike McCarthy his staff, So now you 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.880 have these changes. So I do agree that it's about 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:22.640 time to find out what version of Mike McCarthy exists 0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:24.800 now and if it's the version that is going to 0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.680 be able to mix that old school style with some 0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:30.120 of these analytics, these new guys like John Park that 0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.400 he's bringing in, what does that look like? 0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:34.319 And I think the Cowboys are on a good role 0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:34.680 right now. 0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:35.120 Yeah. 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.200 I feel like in the last couple of years you 0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.200 were first in points and fourth in points under Kelln Moore. 0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:42.960 There's some things that Kellen Moore was really really good at. 0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:45.600 I think the Green Bay game was when Mike McCarthy 0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:48.239 had enough. I think that game right there, he had 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:51.239 circled that game is I'm gonna go back to lambeau Field. 0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.120 I'm gonna win this team. He had this game and 0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:54.759 grasp he had it right there. 0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.480 In his hand, that postcam press I was and at 0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:01.480 that point in time when that happened, that's when I 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.600 think he said no I've got to do something. 0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:07.400 And to Ambar's point, you know, maybe there needed to 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:08.080 be more of that. 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.840 And again, I'm not acting like I was on the headset, 0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.040 but the head coach does have the ability to click 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.840 over and say, hey, listen, man, I'm gonna go for 0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.000 here and four down. You got two plays to get 0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.520 this thing in there, you know, or hey, you need 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.400 to run this ball more. We can't be in this situation. 0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.040 We got to find a way to burn some of 0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.839 this clock. You're responsible for doing that. Well, now he's 0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.480 just taking that away from Kellen Moore instead of clicking 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.960 over and talking to an offensive coordinator, you know, up 0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.879 in the box, probably Brian Schottenheimer's gonna remind him, Hey, Mike, 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.200 get to this if you can't. This is what they're 0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.200 showing us. Get to this if you can't. And so 0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:43.319 maybe that it's just a matter of him getting back 0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:44.040 in the rhythm. 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:44.720 As a play caller. 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.640 But it's interesting because if you go back and look 0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.920 at Green Bay stuff, you know how much movement. Everybody's 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:54.560 always freaking out about movement and motion and deceptives and 0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:59.160 all that stuffs, And so everybody sees that, and then 0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.360 you come from a pro grim and Green Bay, where 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:05.120 Aaron Rodgers was like, give me the static offense. I 0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.400 just want to read this myself. I don't need you 0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:13.200 moving guys around. So it'll be interesting to see. Brian 0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.520 Schoenheimer talked about thirty about seventy percent of the offense 0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.600 could remain the same. The thirty percent, to me is 0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:21.719 what I was talking about the screen game or in 0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.879 the running game, and how not to get shut down 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.600 in the second half of the football season if you 0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:29.120 go back and study, and a lot of it had 0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.320 to do with what happened there at right tackle, you know, 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:34.080 and Tyre and Tyron Smith having to move around. But 0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:36.600 Mike is a play caller. It's gonna I think they're 0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:38.279 gonna have to come out of the gate early, and 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:39.760 he's gonna have to find a rhythm. 0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.279 They can't be like kind of. 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.240 Feeling their way and being three and three to start 0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.719 the season and everybody going, well, is this thing gonna 0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:47.080 really work? 0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:48.919 He's putting a lot of pressure on himself now calling 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:49.480 these plays. 0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.520 Yeah, And I think the thing that Cheff to note, 0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.040 I know you noticed the number of points that the 0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.440 Cowboys scored over the last two years. I think The 0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:58.960 interesting thing is there were games though, where the offense 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.279 just seemed to sputter, and I think those are the 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:05.040 times when that's where, yeah, that's that's where game. 0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:07.359 Yeah, the Tampa game, you couldn't have drawn that up 0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.839 any better for Kellen wore and these Cowboys the way 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.759 that win. But then the San Francisco games is it 0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.840 are teams that you play that have really good front's, 0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.360 physical fronts going to give you problems, right, and how 0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:19.719 do you work out of how do you work And 0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.280 I think that's the thirty percent of the office exactly 0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:23.840 they're trying to figure. 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.439 Out right, right, because by the way, at this point, 0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.839 when you're twelve and five back to back seasons, you're 0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.040 not trying to make seismic changes. You're looking for those 0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.480 little tweaks weeks, and that's where I think, you know, 0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.200 for Mike McCarthy, he's like, yeah, Kellen Moore could be 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:37.279 really great. And let's also remember, I think this gets 0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.320 lost in it. This was a situation where the Cowboys 0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.600 are like, you gotta go, Kellen. This was a mutual 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:44.440 parting of ways. Oh, Kellen every bit wanted to go 0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.040 to San Diego, as maybe the Cowboys wanted to to 0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:48.360 move to Mike McCarthy. 0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:50.200 So I don't think it was just a hey, get 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:50.719 out of the door. 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:52.759 There was not a firing here. 0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:53.440 This exactly. 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:55.839 This was like he probably felt like after the Green 0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.919 Bay game, coaches have been around him, they closed their door, 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:00.800 they get on the phone, they talk to the buddies 0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:03.200 around the league, and you know, they were having struggles 0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.160 in Los Angeles. Joe Lombardi wasn't doing a good enough job. 0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.400 They weren't get in the development. So it made it 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.520 really easy for Kellen Wore to find a soft landing spot. 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:13.360 Right, all right, let's move on. We got one final 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.239 statement that I have for you guys. We don't have 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:16.840 one minute, but I think this one could take a 0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.200 little while. We can always carry over to the next show. 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.400 Here's a statement. When asked about the Kicker situation, Jared responded, 0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:24.000 I think we've got in camp. 0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:25.720 What can be the answer? 0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:32.920 Agree? Disagree? Let's go ahead disagree and again, so you guys, 0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:35.359 you don't believe that Viscayano is the answer. I don't. 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:37.360 I don't have the body of work in front of 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.680 me to be able to agree. Now, viscay Aino or 0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:41.719 Brandon Aubrey. They could come in and they could knock 0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:43.120 it out the park, and I hope one of them do. 0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.480 But until I see that. You look at Aubrey's work, 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.400 former soccer player and now he's a kicker, former USFL. 0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:51.719 You look at Tris Guyano. This is not his first 0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.360 attempt at sticking with an NFL team, let alone the Cowboys. 0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.760 I just I don't have enough evidence to say I agree, 0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.879 and the lack of evidence leads me to disagree until further. 0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:02.120 I know one thing I asked for at my gang 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:05.000 of seven, my pro personnel guys and gals around the league, 0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.239 and I asked about Aubrey and my one of my 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.320 guys and this is a team that needs a kicker 0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.200 that I asked and he says he was really good 0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:16.239 in Birmingham, Smooth, accurate, poised, good at kickoffs as well, 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:20.400 kickoffs as well, her very good person and a wiring 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.840 for the position as well. Which so that to me 0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.279 the mental part, because the mental part out here will 0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:28.680 be the key because every time it used to be 0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:30.760 you stand out here and when they do the kicking stuff, 0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:31.800 everybody would. 0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.120 Stand around and just kind of talk to each other. 0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.839 Now everybody is watching everybody's charting and the wind coming 0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:39.920 over the top of these trees, and we got these 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:43.080 new structures around. They'll be there'll be some there'll be 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.520 some days where these kickers might not look great and 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.120 other days where we're like, oh, maybe this is the right. 0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:50.759 Guy and this is not gonna happen. But I'm like, 0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.840 can we have just like four kickers and have a true. 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:56.160 Tried to get a third? 0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.600 It's just I think that's what led to I think 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:03.720 we've got in camp what may be the answer? 0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:05.680 Well, they said that last year, though, but he also 0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:06.879 said all options are open. 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.520 True, So they thought they had two kickers last year, 0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:11.560 and it sure didn't go that way. 0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.200 All right, we appreciate you guys joining us for our 0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:16.520 maiden voyage of this new version of Cowboys. 0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.239 Break Patrick, nice job. Nice job to our normal our. 0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.680 Normal crew here. We're ready to get into this season. 0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:24.200 We got a lot let me speak, you talk too much. 0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:26.000 Well, that's where you're gonna have to just like this, 0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:27.240 just elbow your way. 0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.880 Jerry Mattelone, teach you anything in there. 0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:33.920 I appreciate you guys join us. We'll be back tomorrow. 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.120 I'm sorry, we'll be back Friday for our next edition 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:37.920 of The Break Till the End for Brian brought us 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.200 Patrick Walker, Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.800 Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:44.360 This has been a 0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:48.759 Production of Dallascowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.