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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, July twenty six, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,
Speaker 6: episode number eleven. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.
Speaker 6: We're alive from the twenty twenty three Cowboys training cop
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Speaker 2: But we've got joining our show one and only, mister Patrick.
Speaker 6: Walker, joining Brian, joining Amber, and we're now ready to
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Speaker 7: Patrick for joining us. We're excited to have you on
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Speaker 6: And let's go for those that haven't I guess followed
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Speaker 6: And so now we've moved you up to Varsity time
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Speaker 2: I like your background and how long you've been covering
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, shouts out to Talking Cowboys and
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Speaker 4: that I got when I was in college, I'm.
Speaker 2: Quite literally a massive Cowboys fan.
Speaker 4: But the beauty of it is is being able to
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Speaker 3: Really great job, boss.
Speaker 6: Well, we'll see how it goes. I feel really good
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and then obviously getting that brand new show with Nick.
Speaker 6: I think we got a lot of things in store
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Speaker 6: Let's talk about Trayvon Diggs and got paid yesterday the
Speaker 6: five year, ninety seven million dollar contract. Patrick, What are
Speaker 6: the I guess the details of the deal.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it definitely was a pleasant surprise
Speaker 4: with the Cowboys having so many heavy hitters that they
Speaker 4: need to try to get on the contract for the
Speaker 4: long term. Talk about Ceedee Lamb, Trevon Diggs is one
Speaker 4: of those Michael Parsons's coming up as well, and now
Speaker 4: we have Zach Martin conversation. But to be able to
Speaker 4: lock up Treyvon Diggs five year extension which totals out
Speaker 4: to six years, because he's going into year four of
Speaker 4: his rookie deal with no fifth year option, second round pick,
Speaker 4: so it's ultimately a six year deal worth upwards of
Speaker 4: one hundred million dollars. Technically it's ninety seven, but you know,
Speaker 4: reports are that it could be up to a hundred
Speaker 4: or even one hundred and four million dollars. So it
Speaker 4: slots right into something that you said, Brian offline that
Speaker 4: hits perfectly. It's right in Stephen Jones' wheelhouse. It doesn't
Speaker 4: set the market, but it gets the player right where
Speaker 4: he needs to be. So there's that sweet spot that
Speaker 4: was struck, and now you have inarguably the best cornerback
Speaker 4: in this franchise's history since Dion Sanders at shouts out
Speaker 4: to Terrence Newman, who was a great cornerback, but he
Speaker 4: wasn't able to do with a guy like Diggs has
Speaker 4: done in the first three seasons. So Diggs has locked
Speaker 4: up five year extension upwards of one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4: Bravo to both Digs, his agent, and the Cowboys organization
Speaker 4: for getting it done.
Speaker 8: Yeah, this was the one I felt like that was
Speaker 8: going to be really, really tough, and because I was thinking, okay,
Speaker 8: where you know, we have a history here with the
Speaker 8: Diggs brothers are outspoken, even to the point where where.
Speaker 3: We were talking about Madden numbers.
Speaker 8: Like you know, it's all it's trash, it's all that.
Speaker 8: And you're thinking, man, this is a competitive family, and
Speaker 8: you know, so you're thinking, like, well, without that fifth
Speaker 8: year option, really that safety net. I mean, there's they're
Speaker 8: talking about tags and all this thing kind of going through.
Speaker 8: But this was the one that I thought was going
Speaker 8: to be trouble for Steven Jones.
Speaker 3: Out of Pacific and those guys.
Speaker 8: But in fact, though, like you said, Patrick, this one
Speaker 8: was right in their wheelhouse because it didn't set the market.
Speaker 8: It wasn't the thing that blew everything away. It was
Speaker 8: a very it's very creative the way they used his
Speaker 8: current contract to add the extension and to even bring
Speaker 8: the number down even more.
Speaker 3: You know, it's don't look at look at this.
Speaker 8: Like a sixteen million dollar you know, and you're thinking, like,
Speaker 8: when you look at the top corners in the league,
Speaker 8: they're all making twenty one, twenty two million dollars a year.
Speaker 8: And to get him at the fifth spot with his ability,
Speaker 8: great job by the player getting it done, great job
Speaker 8: by the agent, and great job by the front office
Speaker 8: for making it all work together.
Speaker 9: So Amber Willills, I was gonna say, it feels really
Speaker 9: really good because that's one less thing to worry about
Speaker 9: at this time. Also, looking into this season, I know
Speaker 9: last year there were a lot of criticism people that
Speaker 9: would criticize Diggs for his level of play, how hard
Speaker 9: he would go and tackle those things that maybe alway,
Speaker 9: is he taking just care of himself to get that
Speaker 9: big contract or taking care of his body so he
Speaker 9: doesn't get injured. Now that's out of the question. He
Speaker 9: got the deal done. He's going to be here in
Speaker 9: Dallas for at least six more seasons for the Cowboys.
Speaker 9: So that's really good that we're starting off training camp
Speaker 9: knowing that he's locked in and ready to go.
Speaker 6: So what do you guys think is the most difficult
Speaker 6: contract they have left? You got Ceedee Lamb coming up,
Speaker 6: you got Michah Parsons, you got Dak coming up, and
Speaker 6: you got Zack Martin coming up. And we'll talk a
Speaker 6: little bit later on the show about Zach and what
Speaker 6: all's going on with him. But you look at those
Speaker 6: big contracts. Obviously, Terrence Steele not as big a contracts.
Speaker 6: I'm really focused more on those really big deals that
Speaker 6: could be like market setting type deals, which you think
Speaker 6: is going to be the most difficult of those four.
Speaker 4: I'm going right to Michael Parsons. When it comes time
Speaker 4: to start talking to Michael Parson's contract, it gets more
Speaker 4: complex because is he truly a linebacker or is he
Speaker 4: truly a edge rusher off of the line, Because that's
Speaker 4: my answer, He's an edge rusher.
Speaker 2: The stats bear that out as well.
Speaker 4: So that's gonna make for a more robust and complex
Speaker 4: conversation between Micah and his agent and the Cowboys front office.
Speaker 2: And as we all.
Speaker 4: Know, there's a very large chasm between linebacker money top
Speaker 4: defensive end money.
Speaker 2: So for me, it's going to be Michael Parsons.
Speaker 8: I kind of feel like this one with Dak Prescott's
Speaker 8: not getting any easier. Yeah, you know, with what we've
Speaker 8: seen with with Herbert and then and then my guy
Speaker 8: Joe Burrow at Cincinnati is going to sign a massive
Speaker 8: deal too. And I give Dak Prescott credit for one thing.
Speaker 8: He's played this the right way. He really has. If
Speaker 8: you look at how he had to deal with the
Speaker 8: tag situations, the things that they had to do to
Speaker 8: kind of make sure that they got the contract done.
Speaker 3: You know, his.
Speaker 8: Agent, Todd Frantz, has not made it easy on but
Speaker 8: that's his job. His job's not to make it easy.
Speaker 8: And the guys that do the cap here they know that,
Speaker 8: they know that with all these contracts. I love what
Speaker 8: you're talking about with Parsons, you know, because Parsons has
Speaker 8: a legitimate, you know, legitimate point about his defensive ability.
Speaker 8: When you start to talk about the great defensive players
Speaker 8: around the league, his name always gets mentioned. It doesn't
Speaker 8: take long to call the role, you know, with his group,
Speaker 8: and so I think that could be tough. But as
Speaker 8: long as these quarterback numbers keep inching up, then all
Speaker 8: of a sudden, Dak Prescott's you know, Dak Prescott's learned
Speaker 8: how to play the short game here. You know, He's like,
Speaker 8: I'm not interested in your long term stuff.
Speaker 3: Give me let me.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 8: It's almost like, you know, it's almost like Lebron James
Speaker 8: and his one year deals where he just keeps getting
Speaker 8: a bite at the apple every time.
Speaker 3: But you know, that season ends.
Speaker 8: So I think that's the one that's going to be
Speaker 8: because I don't think they're gonna give I don't think
Speaker 8: there's gonna be any discounts on this one.
Speaker 3: I really don't real quick.
Speaker 2: On that note.
Speaker 6: You think back to when they were negotiating Dak's deal,
Speaker 6: and even like the year before that, we were talking
Speaker 6: numbers in the thirties. We were talking thirty five, thirty
Speaker 6: sixty seven. Now you've got a number of quarterbacks who've
Speaker 6: already pushed over fifty. It has made a I think
Speaker 6: a massive jump, probably more than any other position in
Speaker 6: the mouth that the best players at the position are
Speaker 6: now being paid with all these contracts and they still
Speaker 6: got burrow to do.
Speaker 7: Where's Burrow gonna end up? So, yeah, you're right, just
Speaker 7: the numbers alone own.
Speaker 6: Of what what's going to make it a little more
Speaker 6: difficult to get Dak done.
Speaker 8: Yeah, as the quarterbacks are walking by, the running backs
Speaker 8: going oh, excuse me.
Speaker 3: Excuse me.
Speaker 8: You know, it's it's kind of like it's kind of
Speaker 8: it's kind of are you checking at the airlines?
Speaker 2: You in group three?
Speaker 3: Are three? No, you're not? Okaya? Group three? Group three?
Speaker 2: Step back.
Speaker 8: The quarterbacks are all doing in group one, and those
Speaker 8: running backs are sitting in group nine.
Speaker 2: Right now, where we go with the you.
Speaker 9: Know, it's just insane going back to Bryan's point about
Speaker 9: this short uh term the Yes, it's just crazy to
Speaker 9: me that we're sitting here talking about Dak's contract again
Speaker 9: again when it feels like it was yesterday thought we
Speaker 9: were discussing his contract with the cow was so. But
Speaker 9: it seems to me that based on everything we've heard
Speaker 9: from the Cowboys and Jerry Johones, Stephen, Mike McCarthy as well,
Speaker 9: their level of commitment with Dak is there, like it
Speaker 9: absolutely they're backing him up and there they have shown
Speaker 9: to be full all in with Dak. So I think
Speaker 9: that don't figure out a way to get that one done.
Speaker 9: But I would say I'm with uh Patrick on this
Speaker 9: one as far as Micah Parsons, just being a lot
Speaker 9: more complex and giving Micah's personality, not saying, you know,
Speaker 9: I don't know Micah's agent, I don't know how he
Speaker 9: is or anything. But based on personalities and how these
Speaker 9: guys are, I think Micah's seems that it's gonna be
Speaker 9: a lot more of a headache and getting it done.
Speaker 7: All right, We're gonna take our first break, could you see?
Speaker 3: Real quick? Though, Mike is so outspoken that you know
Speaker 3: you're gonna.
Speaker 8: Hear a lot of I mean, yeah, it'll be one
Speaker 8: of those things where like you know, the guys over
Speaker 8: here in the cap and with the cot with the
Speaker 8: front off his guys, they keep everything buttoned down. They
Speaker 8: really do keep it all buttoned down, and they believe
Speaker 8: in the back and forth.
Speaker 3: But it has to be that.
Speaker 8: But with Micah, it's going to be there's gonna be
Speaker 8: words You're probably gonna hear.
Speaker 3: Initially that you're like, whoa, wait a minute, and then
Speaker 3: get ready.
Speaker 8: Like we were talking about early in our pre show meeting,
Speaker 8: it could be like Beyonce the Beehive, you know, you know,
Speaker 8: if the fan base will come on front office, what
Speaker 8: are you doing?
Speaker 3: You know, and then attack.
Speaker 2: Let's just be clear.
Speaker 6: I don't think there's any way that the Cowboys will
Speaker 6: lose Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3: They'll figure it out.
Speaker 6: That's the thing I've never in the years I've been
Speaker 6: with the team, I've never seen a player that they
Speaker 6: truly wanted that they ultimately didn't end up getting. You
Speaker 6: can make an argument maybe for Gregory because of the
Speaker 6: way that played out, but the fact of the matter
Speaker 6: is I very rarely have seen them in situations if
Speaker 6: they want a player and By the way, if they
Speaker 6: want to play really bad, I've never seen them losing
Speaker 6: player they want really bad. Because, by the way, you
Speaker 6: can always pay the amount of money that can get
Speaker 6: the deal done or figure out the way to get it.
Speaker 2: And this is a young generational talent.
Speaker 4: You're gonna figure out a way to get it done,
Speaker 4: be it restructures on contracts to create the cap, whether
Speaker 4: it be letting a couple guys at the bottom of
Speaker 4: the Rouster goal, you're gonna you're gonna make it done.
Speaker 2: Oh, make sure it gets done for my.
Speaker 3: All furnace to the Cowboys real quick. Though. On the
Speaker 3: Randy Gregory thing, and I love Randy Gregor, I really do.
Speaker 8: I feel like his agent pushed that deal. I think
Speaker 8: Randy really wanted to be here, and I think the
Speaker 8: Cowboys felt like that they had a deal done. You know,
Speaker 8: the agent's you know Colorado Bay, so you know, it
Speaker 8: works out for him and good for Randy.
Speaker 3: He got paid and.
Speaker 6: He got paid, and by the way, it worked out
Speaker 6: for the Cowboys too, So I think everybody got kind
Speaker 6: of what they needed with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, that what you would say. And now guys
Speaker 4: get to go and get Sam Wood to breakouts, so
Speaker 4: it worked out forever.
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Speaker 2: All right, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 6: I got a little game for you guys called agreed, disagree, disagree.
Speaker 2: I got four statements.
Speaker 6: There were four statements yesterday in the opening press conference
Speaker 6: from Jerry Jones that I'm gonna throw at you guys,
Speaker 6: and I want.
Speaker 7: You to tell me if you agree with them or
Speaker 7: you disagree.
Speaker 3: With them, that the break Show should be paid more
Speaker 3: than anybody. I agree, I agree.
Speaker 4: Now let's go for it, all right, So here we go.
Speaker 6: First one, When asked about the team as a possible contender,
Speaker 6: Jerry responds, we have a team that can compete for
Speaker 6: the top spot.
Speaker 2: Agree, disagree, Agree.
Speaker 3: Agree agree?
Speaker 2: Wow all agree?
Speaker 3: Okay, I agree?
Speaker 2: Would you not?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 2: But I did. I expect that.
Speaker 6: I expect that some people probably raise their eyebrows, like okay,
Speaker 6: here we go again, because you know, the national narrative
Speaker 6: is always okay.
Speaker 7: It's kind of like texta my Texas team, like we're back.
Speaker 6: Like people love to jump on the bandwagon when they
Speaker 6: think that the team is good. I agree with you,
Speaker 6: I know, but I expect there may be some raised eyebrows.
Speaker 9: All the concerns I had I feel like the Cowboys
Speaker 9: have addressed this offseason, except for two parts.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 9: I am still kind of concerned in a combination of
Speaker 9: online running backs, so just a running running game overall,
Speaker 9: there's a question mark there for me. And then the
Speaker 9: other part is kicker, I think we're once again in
Speaker 9: this That's the one part where once again I feel
Speaker 9: like on the same boat as last year as far
Speaker 9: as like they haven't really brought much competition or they're
Speaker 9: just kind of done the same thing as they did
Speaker 9: last year. So those are my two concerned But in all,
Speaker 9: looking at the team as a whole, I just I
Speaker 9: feel like they do have everything they need to be
Speaker 9: capable of competing and getting to that next level.
Speaker 2: So I'll address it in two parts.
Speaker 4: One, I understand the narrative, but I will say it's
Speaker 4: it's markedly different than the back end of the Jason
Speaker 4: Garrett era. When you hear Jerry Jones say I think
Speaker 4: we can be a contender, then you could kind of
Speaker 4: sit back and say, come on, something major's gotta be
Speaker 4: shaken up. But if you look at the McCarthy era,
Speaker 4: and you look at these past two seasons in particular
Speaker 4: twelve and five year in the playoffs, twelve and five
Speaker 4: year in the second round of the playoffs, the progression
Speaker 4: is there, the building is there? The defense we were
Speaker 4: talking about it yesterday. It's wild. Just two or three
Speaker 4: years ago we were leaning on the offense. Yeah, now
Speaker 4: the Cowboys are We're asking should they lean on the defense.
Speaker 4: Defense is set and it's gotten better on paper. Offensively,
Speaker 4: you go on, you make moves, Brandon with just the
Speaker 4: counterpart trade with Stefan Gilmore. So, Yeah, you still have
Speaker 4: question marks offensive line, running back room kicker is a
Speaker 4: big one for me. But if you sit back and
Speaker 4: you look at the totality of it, there's no reason
Speaker 4: this team should not be mentioned in the same breath
Speaker 4: as the Eagles and the forty nine ers as far
Speaker 4: as the top the NFC.
Speaker 8: That's the reason why right there, while they have a
Speaker 8: chant because all of a sudden, they're look with all
Speaker 8: the quarterbacks are, all the quarterbacks are in the AFC.
Speaker 3: This conference is for the taking.
Speaker 8: You know, you feel good about Yes, you match up,
Speaker 8: you know easily when you go to Philadelphia or they
Speaker 8: come to at and T.
Speaker 3: You kind of.
Speaker 8: Feel like, okay, rosters matchup depending on how the quarterbacks play,
Speaker 8: could be could be a turnover one way or another
Speaker 8: that decides this game, or one team just gets steamrolled.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: With the Eagles, you kind of have that feeling that
Speaker 8: you could beat them on any given day. Forty nine
Speaker 8: ers not so much. But see when Aaron Rodgers leaves
Speaker 8: this conference, it goes you know, and I'm thinking about
Speaker 8: what you have to go through. We'll see what's up
Speaker 8: in Detroit, you know, we'll see what's up with them,
Speaker 8: We'll see what's up with the Commanders and the Giants
Speaker 8: and all these other teams in the division as well.
Speaker 3: But the conference is for the.
Speaker 8: Taking because the team's potentially that you have to deal with.
Speaker 8: It's not like dealing with things going on in the AFC.
Speaker 7: All right, Next question, our next statement.
Speaker 6: When asked about Tony Pollard and his contract situation running backs,
Speaker 6: Jerry responded, the franchise tag fit that situation very well.
Speaker 2: Agreed, disagree, agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 8: But the thing about it, it's the fact I thought
Speaker 8: Stephen Jones was quick to mention that they did try
Speaker 8: and offer him a long term deal.
Speaker 2: He had to put that out there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he let it be known that wait a minute, now,
Speaker 8: we we we're okay with the franchise tag, but we
Speaker 8: tried to offer a long term deal here and he decided.
Speaker 2: And mentioned as well a long time and I think that.
Speaker 3: We might be in a similar path here.
Speaker 8: I think we might be in a similar path to
Speaker 8: where and we'll see what happens with this running back
Speaker 8: stuff for these guys has.
Speaker 3: Been very, very difficult.
Speaker 8: And I had the question of has analytics ruined the
Speaker 8: running back? You know, has analytics all these departments now though,
Speaker 8: these analytics guys and gals, and they're.
Speaker 3: All saying throw it, throw it, throw it, and me.
Speaker 8: Old krusty guy, is like, I'm from an era of
Speaker 8: run it, run it, you know, I'm from that era
Speaker 8: and I still think there's importance with the running backs.
Speaker 8: But I think it fit the Cowboys. And how quickly
Speaker 8: Pollard signed the tag told you'd fit him right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And for me it's it's twofold number one. The
Speaker 4: running back market is so depressed that it's actually depressing
Speaker 4: to look at. But from the Cowboys aspect. In Tony
Speaker 4: Pollard's aspect, Pollard is coming off of a rookie contract
Speaker 4: in which he was not the number one guy.
Speaker 2: It was Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 4: So the Cowboys have yet to see Tony Pollard as
Speaker 4: the definitive number one guy. So, yes, they offered him
Speaker 4: a long term deal, but I could understand their comfort
Speaker 4: and saying, you know, if you want us to up
Speaker 4: the money.
Speaker 2: Here's your true prove it season.
Speaker 4: So you could argue last year was kind of a
Speaker 4: prove it season, but here it is right here, and
Speaker 4: I mean at ten point one million dollars.
Speaker 2: You know, how can you go wrong when it comes
Speaker 2: to the salary cup.
Speaker 9: Well, not only that the fact that he hasn't been
Speaker 9: the number one running back yet completely, but also the
Speaker 9: whole injury thing. And I know, I'm no doctor, I'm
Speaker 9: not in there. I don't know how he is physically
Speaker 9: and all that, and what we've seen so far he
Speaker 9: looks good. But I'm always hesitating, like to give someone
Speaker 9: a long term deal or you know, even.
Speaker 3: If it's just two three years coming.
Speaker 9: It's just something that you just haven't seen it. You
Speaker 9: just haven't seen him full go just yet. And I
Speaker 9: mean they feel confident about him being the guy for
Speaker 9: this year, but there's still a lot of question marks
Speaker 9: there that we haven't just we haven't seen just yet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have to say this. I've been waiting all
Speaker 6: off season to say this. This whole thing with running backs.
Speaker 6: This is basic economics. Like the first class I took
Speaker 6: at Texas, it was an economics class, and I remember
Speaker 6: them talking specifically one day about the fact that when
Speaker 6: supply increases, that drives down price. That's all that's happening
Speaker 6: here is you have a number of running backs that
Speaker 6: are coming into the league, and what teams have realized
Speaker 6: is that they're plentiful.
Speaker 2: There are lots of them.
Speaker 6: And by the way, what you get the production you
Speaker 6: get from a seventh eighth year veteran running back and
Speaker 6: what you get.
Speaker 3: From a rookie running back right now, but.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, and what you get from a rookie
Speaker 6: running back is not terribly different. And so when you
Speaker 6: have a large amount of supply and they're pretty comparable,
Speaker 6: what ends up happening is price goes down. The cost
Speaker 6: of getting one is cheaper. And so that's all that's happening.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 6: The other thing you gotta remember is this also can
Speaker 6: flip too, because sometimes when you drive that price down,
Speaker 6: what ends up happening is supply also goes down. What
Speaker 6: starts happening is kids in little league, in middle school
Speaker 6: ball and high school ball, Dad saying, hey, son, we're
Speaker 6: not gonna play running back. We're gonna play wide receiver.
Speaker 6: You'll think me right, We're gonna play linebacker. You'll thank
Speaker 6: me later. And what ends up happening is now you
Speaker 6: have a less kids wanting to play that position, and
Speaker 6: you have a less supply. The most talented athletes are
Speaker 6: not going to running back anymore. They're going to other positions,
Speaker 6: and then it's driving that price back up because it's
Speaker 6: harder to find a good But this is all cyclical,
Speaker 6: it's all economics.
Speaker 2: This is all economics.
Speaker 4: That's economics is cyclical because you know, not so long ago,
Speaker 4: it was a league that was so quarterback driven, so
Speaker 4: past offense driven, that felt that any team would take
Speaker 4: a running back in the top ten, top five. But
Speaker 4: then here comes Ezekiel Elliott, Derek Henry, Christian McCaffrey, Leonard Fournette,
Speaker 4: and then the running backs were the stars there, John Robinson,
Speaker 4: they were the star of the show. And b Jon
Speaker 4: kind of broke ranking. As we're talking about the press
Speaker 4: RB market. But in that stretch of time it cycled
Speaker 4: back to running backs being valuable, and now their their
Speaker 4: market is depressed. But inevitably, as.
Speaker 7: Economics goes, for one reason or another.
Speaker 2: It's going.
Speaker 4: I believe it'll get back to them, but just right now,
Speaker 4: it's got to be figured out.
Speaker 3: The running back.
Speaker 8: Okay, we always talked about, oh you could take a
Speaker 8: third or fourth or fifth round guy. Maybe the stupid
Speaker 8: scouts missed these running backs instead of them being fifth, sixth,
Speaker 8: seventh round running backs like the Pacheco in Kansas City,
Speaker 8: maybe he should have been taken in the second round.
Speaker 8: You know, maybe I know it's all you could just
Speaker 8: you could plug anybody in and all that. Maybe there's
Speaker 8: been some misevaluation about the running back position that all
Speaker 8: of a sudden these guys show up or they're in
Speaker 8: a small school that the colleges didn't you know, didn't
Speaker 8: recruit the right kid, and all of a sudden he
Speaker 8: ends up at Directional Louisiana School instead of ending up
Speaker 8: at LSU or.
Speaker 3: Someplace like that. Yeah, So, to me, like the talent
Speaker 3: for and the need for running backs are still there.
Speaker 8: I think the evaluation of the running back and just
Speaker 8: to say, oh you could take them or get them anywhere,
Speaker 8: I think there's been a lot of misevaluation of how
Speaker 8: good these guys were.
Speaker 4: That's actually the biggest problem is is like you're saying everyone,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, needs to stop lumping all running backs
Speaker 4: into one bucket and saying I can just pick from
Speaker 4: this bucket whenever I want and get the same or
Speaker 4: similar production. That's not always the case. I've always been
Speaker 4: a champion enough hashtag run matter. But in that being said,
Speaker 4: I also state that not all running backs are the
Speaker 4: same as the other running backs, right. Not every running
Speaker 4: back coming out of college is capable as b John Robinson,
Speaker 4: Ezekiel Elliott, Dereck Henry. You're gonna have some guys that
Speaker 4: are capable, but they're true fourth, fifth, sixth round guys,
Speaker 4: and I think the conversation needs to be let's stop
Speaker 4: assuming that a guy who justifiably is a sixth round
Speaker 4: flyer can step in and do the production as a
Speaker 4: Dereck Henry. When that conversation becomes more rightful and more justifiable,
Speaker 4: then I think things will start to turn.
Speaker 8: You watching Christian McCaffrey play when the teams know how
Speaker 8: to use him, Yeah, you know, when they throw him
Speaker 8: the ball in the swing and the screens and stuff.
Speaker 8: Like I told I told the running back coach here,
Speaker 8: I said, listen, hey, you figure out how to run
Speaker 8: a screen game for this football team. I'll throw a
Speaker 8: parade for you in downtown Dallas. You know, I can't
Speaker 8: tell you the last time they threw the ball the
Speaker 8: running back. If you find these some of these coordinators
Speaker 8: find ways to get these guys going to where all
Speaker 8: of a sudden's like, okay, I see the value here.
Speaker 3: I see the matchup values here, you know, and I
Speaker 3: you know, I think it's I find it's wrong, and
Speaker 3: it's the position is devalued. I really do.
Speaker 8: Kansas City won the Super Bowl because what they could
Speaker 8: do Mahomes wasn't great. All of a sudden, what did
Speaker 8: they start doing. They started running the football in the
Speaker 8: second half. They blocked Philadelphia up front and were able
Speaker 8: to kill that game running it.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 3: So to me, I kind of feel like there is
Speaker 3: value for that. I live that.
Speaker 8: I lived that working for the Packers and watching EMMITTT.
Speaker 8: Smith then build a lead in those games and just
Speaker 8: hammer the ball at us and we couldn't stop them.
Speaker 8: You know, there's value in that destroying somebody's will to compete,
Speaker 8: and running backs do that.
Speaker 6: In my opinion, yeah, no, I think everyone agrees with
Speaker 6: the value of what they are, and what I mean
Speaker 6: by that is what they bring to the game. But
Speaker 6: the point is that most teams a starting most teams
Speaker 6: are starting to realize that you can just get one
Speaker 6: for cheaper. Because I thought it was interesting when you said,
Speaker 6: you know, there may be a misevaluation of player.
Speaker 7: Here's what I would ask you. One of the things
Speaker 7: I've always wondered is it's.
Speaker 3: Not a lot well, no, no, no.
Speaker 6: From the standpoint of where I sit, where you know,
Speaker 6: playing fantasy football is not obviously how it works there.
Speaker 6: But in fantasy football, when you look at a draft,
Speaker 6: the way you think about it is it's not necessarily
Speaker 6: where the player deserves to go, it's where can I
Speaker 6: get the player.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 6: So there might be a player who is worthy of
Speaker 6: being a second round pick, right, but I know in
Speaker 6: my draft I can get him in.
Speaker 2: The fourth round. Then I'm gonna put him in the
Speaker 2: fourth round.
Speaker 6: So I think for the running backs, I don't know
Speaker 6: that I necessarily think it's a misevaluation as much as
Speaker 6: teams are starting to realize because everybody else has devalued
Speaker 6: the PI position to some degree, I can get a
Speaker 6: guy that maybe has talent to be a first second
Speaker 6: third rounder. I can maybe get him in the fourth round.
Speaker 6: I can maybe get him in the fifth round, because
Speaker 6: that's where everybody would normally take them.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And to me though, I.
Speaker 8: Were when we were on the draft show leading up
Speaker 8: to the draft and we kept talking about Bjon Robinson
Speaker 8: and like, well, he could go with seven, he could
Speaker 8: go at ten, he could go at twenty six, he
Speaker 8: could go with thirty two.
Speaker 2: And he's very talented.
Speaker 8: And it was ridiculous to me when they started talking
Speaker 8: about that Dallas could probably get him, you know, it
Speaker 8: was ridiculous. I go, this is one of the best
Speaker 8: football players regardless of position in the country, you know.
Speaker 8: And where he went to Atlanta. I was like, there
Speaker 8: you go, that's where he should have gone. And so
Speaker 8: to me that makes sense. But I think where people
Speaker 8: have problems is where how much these running.
Speaker 3: Backs get paid. You know, what are you getting for
Speaker 3: fifteen million dollars? So what are you getting for twelve
Speaker 3: million dollars?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. And this is my final point
Speaker 2: on the matter.
Speaker 4: If you're a team that's, you know, trying to figure
Speaker 4: out your offensive line, then you better have your running
Speaker 4: back position figure it out or you can't. You can't
Speaker 4: be trying to figure out both of those things at
Speaker 4: the same time. So if you if your O line
Speaker 4: is is in flux, you would like to hope that
Speaker 4: you have your running back situation set up. If your
Speaker 4: running back position is in flux, you would like to
Speaker 4: hope you got your oil situation set up.
Speaker 6: All right, We're gonna take our final break and come back.
Speaker 6: I got a couple more thoughts for you guys, and
Speaker 6: we'll see if you agree disagree, We'll do that when
Speaker 6: we come back.
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Speaker 2: Have this poster.
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Speaker 9: the magazine, put it somewhere and you just can follow
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Speaker 3: the game.
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Speaker 2: you'll go through the desk.
Speaker 6: You can count the number of desks that had this
Speaker 6: up like I about everybody puts it up.
Speaker 8: It's such a quick it's such a quick reference and
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Speaker 6: I got two more comments from you guys from the
Speaker 6: opening press conference.
Speaker 2: We're asking you if you agree or disagree.
Speaker 6: When ask about Mike McCarthy taking over the offense, Jerry responded,
Speaker 6: it's not about what Kellen wasn't, but about what Mike is.
Speaker 2: You agree or disagree?
Speaker 9: That's a that's an interesting one because I have mixed
Speaker 9: feeling about it. One I haven't fully seen, or I
Speaker 9: don't think we have in this team. Obviously, we haven't
Speaker 9: fully seen Mike McCarthy calling the place and taking.
Speaker 3: Over that role.
Speaker 9: I thought Kellen Moore this pied the areas where he lacked.
Speaker 9: I think overall, he started his career very very good,
Speaker 9: and he took the Cowboys to another level. He elevated
Speaker 9: the Cowboys offense. And it's shown by proof that there
Speaker 9: were in many areas the number one in the league,
Speaker 9: but there were still they didn't get to where they
Speaker 9: needed There were a lot of areas that needed improvement overall.
Speaker 9: Going back to that time, I still have problems with
Speaker 9: thinking that despite you having different ideas and not wanting
Speaker 9: to butt heads with your offensive coordinator, I still think
Speaker 9: there were times that you as a head coach, and
Speaker 9: we don't know this fully, but that I think maybe
Speaker 9: he should have taken over, Maybe he should have intervened
Speaker 9: because there goes that season. That season is gone, and
Speaker 9: we thought at the time the Coways had a shot.
Speaker 9: I think the last few years we thought the Cowboys
Speaker 9: have had a shot.
Speaker 3: And so I don't know.
Speaker 9: I'm curious to see how well McCarthy does. I think
Speaker 9: he came to training camp in really really good spirits.
Speaker 9: You guys know, well, you know, Derek and I've talked
Speaker 9: about this on the show before. I'm super about vibes
Speaker 9: and energy and all that body language. I like to
Speaker 9: observe those things, and McCarthy came out here with his
Speaker 9: energy on point. He got out of out of that
Speaker 9: plane for hoppy gaming thumbs up. So I'm excited to
Speaker 9: just see him take over that role. But I mean
Speaker 9: that's a great way for Jerry to put it, because
Speaker 9: what else can you say about that you appreciate what
Speaker 9: Kellen did for you, but also now you're turning the
Speaker 9: page and giving McCarthy the chance.
Speaker 4: I agree with that that part of the statement from Jerry,
Speaker 4: and and because I'm on record as saying I believe
Speaker 4: that Kellen Moore was underrated by most of the fan base.
Speaker 4: I think Kellen Moore was a very very capable offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: But two things can be true at the same time.
Speaker 4: And the other side of that truth is Kellen Moore's
Speaker 4: tendencies often got in his way of what might have
Speaker 4: been a better situational play called talk about how the
Speaker 4: game winning Green Bay, talk about how the game winning Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: When you have a lead like that, you kind.
Speaker 4: Of want to start going to old school, maybe get
Speaker 4: that run, run the ball in, work the clock. But
Speaker 4: with Kellen Moore's exit to Los Angeles, now we're not
Speaker 4: only going to see Mike McCarthy, who is in fantastic sperience.
Speaker 4: He said himself, he's having fun. He's on the plays again.
Speaker 4: But the question now is he's going into year four
Speaker 4: of what's reportedly a five year contract it's time for
Speaker 4: the Cowboys to see if there's an evolved Mike McCarthy
Speaker 4: as a play caller, as this is a pivotal season
Speaker 4: for this offense, Mike McCarthy his staff, So now you
Speaker 4: have these changes. So I do agree that it's about
Speaker 4: time to find out what version of Mike McCarthy exists
Speaker 4: now and if it's the version that is going to
Speaker 4: be able to mix that old school style with some
Speaker 4: of these analytics, these new guys like John Park that
Speaker 4: he's bringing in, what does that look like?
Speaker 2: And I think the Cowboys are on a good role
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I feel like in the last couple of years you
Speaker 8: were first in points and fourth in points under Kelln Moore.
Speaker 8: There's some things that Kellen Moore was really really good at.
Speaker 8: I think the Green Bay game was when Mike McCarthy
Speaker 8: had enough. I think that game right there, he had
Speaker 8: circled that game is I'm gonna go back to lambeau Field.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna win this team. He had this game and
Speaker 3: grasp he had it right there.
Speaker 8: In his hand, that postcam press I was and at
Speaker 8: that point in time when that happened, that's when I
Speaker 8: think he said no I've got to do something.
Speaker 3: And to Ambar's point, you know, maybe there needed to
Speaker 3: be more of that.
Speaker 8: And again, I'm not acting like I was on the headset,
Speaker 8: but the head coach does have the ability to click
Speaker 8: over and say, hey, listen, man, I'm gonna go for
Speaker 8: here and four down. You got two plays to get
Speaker 8: this thing in there, you know, or hey, you need
Speaker 8: to run this ball more. We can't be in this situation.
Speaker 8: We got to find a way to burn some of
Speaker 8: this clock. You're responsible for doing that. Well, now he's
Speaker 8: just taking that away from Kellen Moore instead of clicking
Speaker 8: over and talking to an offensive coordinator, you know, up
Speaker 8: in the box, probably Brian Schottenheimer's gonna remind him, Hey, Mike,
Speaker 8: get to this if you can't. This is what they're
Speaker 8: showing us. Get to this if you can't. And so
Speaker 8: maybe that it's just a matter of him getting back
Speaker 8: in the rhythm.
Speaker 3: As a play caller.
Speaker 8: But it's interesting because if you go back and look
Speaker 8: at Green Bay stuff, you know how much movement. Everybody's
Speaker 8: always freaking out about movement and motion and deceptives and
Speaker 8: all that stuffs, And so everybody sees that, and then
Speaker 8: you come from a pro grim and Green Bay, where
Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers was like, give me the static offense. I
Speaker 8: just want to read this myself. I don't need you
Speaker 8: moving guys around. So it'll be interesting to see. Brian
Speaker 8: Schoenheimer talked about thirty about seventy percent of the offense
Speaker 8: could remain the same. The thirty percent, to me is
Speaker 8: what I was talking about the screen game or in
Speaker 8: the running game, and how not to get shut down
Speaker 8: in the second half of the football season if you
Speaker 8: go back and study, and a lot of it had
Speaker 8: to do with what happened there at right tackle, you know,
Speaker 8: and Tyre and Tyron Smith having to move around. But
Speaker 8: Mike is a play caller. It's gonna I think they're
Speaker 8: gonna have to come out of the gate early, and
Speaker 8: he's gonna have to find a rhythm.
Speaker 3: They can't be like kind of.
Speaker 8: Feeling their way and being three and three to start
Speaker 8: the season and everybody going, well, is this thing gonna
Speaker 8: really work?
Speaker 3: He's putting a lot of pressure on himself now calling
Speaker 3: these plays.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think the thing that Cheff to note,
Speaker 6: I know you noticed the number of points that the
Speaker 6: Cowboys scored over the last two years. I think The
Speaker 6: interesting thing is there were games though, where the offense
Speaker 6: just seemed to sputter, and I think those are the
Speaker 6: times when that's where, yeah, that's that's where game.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the Tampa game, you couldn't have drawn that up
Speaker 8: any better for Kellen wore and these Cowboys the way
Speaker 8: that win. But then the San Francisco games is it
Speaker 8: are teams that you play that have really good front's,
Speaker 8: physical fronts going to give you problems, right, and how
Speaker 8: do you work out of how do you work And
Speaker 8: I think that's the thirty percent of the office exactly
Speaker 8: they're trying to figure.
Speaker 6: Out right, right, because by the way, at this point,
Speaker 6: when you're twelve and five back to back seasons, you're
Speaker 6: not trying to make seismic changes. You're looking for those
Speaker 6: little tweaks weeks, and that's where I think, you know,
Speaker 6: for Mike McCarthy, he's like, yeah, Kellen Moore could be
Speaker 6: really great. And let's also remember, I think this gets
Speaker 6: lost in it. This was a situation where the Cowboys
Speaker 6: are like, you gotta go, Kellen. This was a mutual
Speaker 6: parting of ways. Oh, Kellen every bit wanted to go
Speaker 6: to San Diego, as maybe the Cowboys wanted to to
Speaker 6: move to Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2: So I don't think it was just a hey, get
Speaker 2: out of the door.
Speaker 3: There was not a firing here.
Speaker 2: This exactly.
Speaker 8: This was like he probably felt like after the Green
Speaker 8: Bay game, coaches have been around him, they closed their door,
Speaker 8: they get on the phone, they talk to the buddies
Speaker 8: around the league, and you know, they were having struggles
Speaker 8: in Los Angeles. Joe Lombardi wasn't doing a good enough job.
Speaker 8: They weren't get in the development. So it made it
Speaker 8: really easy for Kellen Wore to find a soft landing spot.
Speaker 6: Right, all right, let's move on. We got one final
Speaker 6: statement that I have for you guys. We don't have
Speaker 6: one minute, but I think this one could take a
Speaker 6: little while. We can always carry over to the next show.
Speaker 6: Here's a statement. When asked about the Kicker situation, Jared responded,
Speaker 6: I think we've got in camp.
Speaker 3: What can be the answer?
Speaker 2: Agree? Disagree? Let's go ahead disagree and again, so you guys,
Speaker 2: you don't believe that Viscayano is the answer. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't have the body of work in front of
Speaker 4: me to be able to agree. Now, viscay Aino or
Speaker 4: Brandon Aubrey. They could come in and they could knock
Speaker 4: it out the park, and I hope one of them do.
Speaker 4: But until I see that. You look at Aubrey's work,
Speaker 4: former soccer player and now he's a kicker, former USFL.
Speaker 4: You look at Tris Guyano. This is not his first
Speaker 4: attempt at sticking with an NFL team, let alone the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: I just I don't have enough evidence to say I agree,
Speaker 4: and the lack of evidence leads me to disagree until further.
Speaker 8: I know one thing I asked for at my gang
Speaker 8: of seven, my pro personnel guys and gals around the league,
Speaker 8: and I asked about Aubrey and my one of my
Speaker 8: guys and this is a team that needs a kicker
Speaker 8: that I asked and he says he was really good
Speaker 8: in Birmingham, Smooth, accurate, poised, good at kickoffs as well,
Speaker 8: kickoffs as well, her very good person and a wiring
Speaker 8: for the position as well. Which so that to me
Speaker 8: the mental part, because the mental part out here will
Speaker 8: be the key because every time it used to be
Speaker 8: you stand out here and when they do the kicking stuff,
Speaker 8: everybody would.
Speaker 3: Stand around and just kind of talk to each other.
Speaker 8: Now everybody is watching everybody's charting and the wind coming
Speaker 8: over the top of these trees, and we got these
Speaker 8: new structures around. They'll be there'll be some there'll be
Speaker 8: some days where these kickers might not look great and
Speaker 8: other days where we're like, oh, maybe this is the right.
Speaker 9: Guy and this is not gonna happen. But I'm like,
Speaker 9: can we have just like four kickers and have a true.
Speaker 2: Tried to get a third?
Speaker 7: It's just I think that's what led to I think
Speaker 7: we've got in camp what may be the answer?
Speaker 2: Well, they said that last year, though, but he also
Speaker 2: said all options are open.
Speaker 8: True, So they thought they had two kickers last year,
Speaker 8: and it sure didn't go that way.
Speaker 6: All right, we appreciate you guys joining us for our
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Speaker 7: Break Patrick, nice job. Nice job to our normal our.
Speaker 2: Normal crew here. We're ready to get into this season.
Speaker 2: We got a lot let me speak, you talk too much.
Speaker 7: Well, that's where you're gonna have to just like this,
Speaker 7: just elbow your way.
Speaker 3: Jerry Mattelone, teach you anything in there.
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