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Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Ready for a break?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so much for that.

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Speaker 5: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 3: We were on.

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Speaker 5: With Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, July twenty six, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 6: episode number eleven. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 6: We're alive from the twenty twenty three Cowboys training cop

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Speaker 6: camp in Oxen, California, and we're ready for a new

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Speaker 6: season here on the Break. We got some new things

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Speaker 6: for you guys this season. We got a long step,

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Speaker 6: a long time member of our team who is no

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Speaker 6: longer on the Break staff. He will be branching off

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Speaker 6: into his own show, Nick Eaton, starting up a new

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Speaker 6: show called Cowboy Storyline. Check the website mobile app later

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Speaker 6: today tomorrow, I think for his first episode of that show.

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Speaker 2: But we've got joining our show one and only, mister Patrick.

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Speaker 6: Walker, joining Brian, joining Amber, and we're now ready to

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Speaker 6: get this thing rolling.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Patrick for joining us. We're excited to have you on

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Speaker 7: the show.

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Speaker 6: And let's go for those that haven't I guess followed

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Speaker 6: your work, give us a little bit of a taste of, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: a little taste of kind of where you've been and

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Speaker 6: what you've been doing.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, you on the B Show.

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Speaker 6: And so now we've moved you up to Varsity time

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Speaker 6: step up, but talk a little bit about that.

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Speaker 2: I like your background and how long you've been covering

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Speaker 2: this team.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, shouts out to Talking Cowboys and

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Speaker 4: my guys over there, Kyle and Rob who's not with us,

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Speaker 4: but Nick Harris and as Isaiah standback obviously, but prior

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Speaker 4: to coming into the organization, covered the team for several

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Speaker 4: years with CBS Sports, prior to that, twenty four to

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Speaker 4: a pleasure of me to not only cover the team

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Speaker 4: but be a lifelong fan of the team. So, for

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Speaker 4: those that don't know about me, this tattoo right here

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Speaker 4: that I got when I was in college, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Quite literally a massive Cowboys fan.

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Speaker 4: But the beauty of it is is being able to

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Speaker 4: separate the science, as I call it, from the fandom,

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Speaker 4: so I get to enjoy it on two different fronts

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Speaker 4: when it's enjoyable. So and now I'm on the on

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Speaker 4: and I'm on this team with some heavy hitters, and

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Speaker 4: I'm just looking forward to contributed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you what though, it's I know this is

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Speaker 8: the first time I've I've known you a long time,

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Speaker 8: long time, always respected your work from AFAR. A matter

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Speaker 8: of fact, you and I've gotten some arguments before, corrected

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Speaker 8: and this is yeah, this guy that he'll direct you

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Speaker 8: good conversation. I look forward to, like you know, the

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Speaker 8: post game stuff, the breakdowns during the week, getting ready

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Speaker 3: Really great job, boss.

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Speaker 6: Well, we'll see how it goes. I feel really good

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Speaker 6: about this one. I think we got extited, to be

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Speaker 3: I think that's a big right there.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and then obviously getting that brand new show with Nick.

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Speaker 6: I think we got a lot of things in store

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Speaker 2: I think fans are gonna enjoy it.

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Speaker 6: I know, I know people don't like change. Just trust

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Speaker 2: We'll make it work. All right, let's jump in. Let's

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about Trayvon Diggs and got paid yesterday the

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Speaker 6: the I guess the details of the deal.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it definitely was a pleasant surprise

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Speaker 3: We were talking about Madden numbers.

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Speaker 8: Like you know, it's all it's trash, it's all that.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's don't look at look at this.

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Speaker 9: So Amber Willills, I was gonna say, it feels really

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Speaker 6: So what do you guys think is the most difficult

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Speaker 4: I'm going right to Michael Parsons. When it comes time

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Speaker 2: The stats bear that out as well.

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Speaker 4: So that's gonna make for a more robust and complex

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Speaker 2: And as we all.

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Speaker 2: So for me, it's going to be Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 8: He's played this the right way. He really has. If

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Speaker 8: Agent, Todd Frantz, has not made it easy on but

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Speaker 8: And the guys that do the cap here they know that,

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Speaker 8: When you start to talk about the great defensive players

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Speaker 8: I'm not interested in your long term stuff.

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Speaker 3: Give me let me.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 8: It's almost like, you know, it's almost like Lebron James

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Speaker 3: But you know, that season ends.

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Speaker 8: So I think that's the one that's going to be

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Speaker 8: because I don't think they're gonna give I don't think

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Speaker 3: I really don't real quick.

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Speaker 2: On that note.

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Speaker 6: You think back to when they were negotiating Dak's deal,

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Speaker 3: You know, and then attack.

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Speaker 2: Let's just be clear.

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Speaker 6: I don't think there's any way that the Cowboys will

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Speaker 6: That's the thing I've never in the years I've been

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Speaker 6: I got a little game for you guys called agreed, disagree, disagree.

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Speaker 2: I got four statements.

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Speaker 6: There were four statements yesterday in the opening press conference

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Speaker 8: come to at and T.

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Speaker 3: You kind of.

445
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Speaker 8: Feel like, okay, rosters matchup depending on how the quarterbacks play,

446
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 8: could be could be a turnover one way or another

447
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Speaker 8: that decides this game, or one team just gets steamrolled.

448
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Speaker 3: You know.

449
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Speaker 8: With the Eagles, you kind of have that feeling that

450
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Speaker 8: you could beat them on any given day. Forty nine

451
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 8: ers not so much. But see when Aaron Rodgers leaves

452
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Speaker 8: this conference, it goes you know, and I'm thinking about

453
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Speaker 8: what you have to go through. We'll see what's up

454
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Speaker 8: in Detroit, you know, we'll see what's up with them,

455
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Speaker 8: We'll see what's up with the Commanders and the Giants

456
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Speaker 8: and all these other teams in the division as well.

457
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Speaker 3: But the conference is for the.

458
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Speaker 8: Taking because the team's potentially that you have to deal with.

459
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Speaker 8: It's not like dealing with things going on in the AFC.

460
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Speaker 7: All right, Next question, our next statement.

461
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Speaker 6: When asked about Tony Pollard and his contract situation running backs,

462
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Speaker 6: Jerry responded, the franchise tag fit that situation very well.

463
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Speaker 2: Agreed, disagree, agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

465
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Speaker 8: But the thing about it, it's the fact I thought

466
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Speaker 8: Stephen Jones was quick to mention that they did try

467
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Speaker 8: and offer him a long term deal.

468
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Speaker 2: He had to put that out there.

469
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he let it be known that wait a minute, now,

470
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Speaker 8: we we we're okay with the franchise tag, but we

471
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Speaker 8: tried to offer a long term deal here and he decided.

472
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Speaker 2: And mentioned as well a long time and I think that.

473
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Speaker 3: We might be in a similar path here.

474
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Speaker 8: I think we might be in a similar path to

475
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Speaker 8: where and we'll see what happens with this running back

476
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Speaker 8: stuff for these guys has.

477
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Speaker 3: Been very, very difficult.

478
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Speaker 8: And I had the question of has analytics ruined the

479
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Speaker 8: running back? You know, has analytics all these departments now though,

480
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 8: these analytics guys and gals, and they're.

481
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Speaker 3: All saying throw it, throw it, throw it, and me.

482
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Speaker 8: Old krusty guy, is like, I'm from an era of

483
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Speaker 8: run it, run it, you know, I'm from that era

484
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Speaker 8: and I still think there's importance with the running backs.

485
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Speaker 8: But I think it fit the Cowboys. And how quickly

486
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Speaker 8: Pollard signed the tag told you'd fit him right there.

487
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And for me it's it's twofold number one. The

488
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Speaker 4: running back market is so depressed that it's actually depressing

489
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Speaker 4: to look at. But from the Cowboys aspect. In Tony

490
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Speaker 4: Pollard's aspect, Pollard is coming off of a rookie contract

491
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Speaker 4: in which he was not the number one guy.

492
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Speaker 2: It was Ezekiel Elliott.

493
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Speaker 4: So the Cowboys have yet to see Tony Pollard as

494
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Speaker 4: the definitive number one guy. So, yes, they offered him

495
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Speaker 4: a long term deal, but I could understand their comfort

496
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Speaker 4: and saying, you know, if you want us to up

497
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Speaker 4: the money.

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Speaker 2: Here's your true prove it season.

499
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Speaker 4: So you could argue last year was kind of a

500
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Speaker 4: prove it season, but here it is right here, and

501
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Speaker 4: I mean at ten point one million dollars.

502
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Speaker 2: You know, how can you go wrong when it comes

503
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Speaker 2: to the salary cup.

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Speaker 9: Well, not only that the fact that he hasn't been

505
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Speaker 9: the number one running back yet completely, but also the

506
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Speaker 9: whole injury thing. And I know, I'm no doctor, I'm

507
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Speaker 9: not in there. I don't know how he is physically

508
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Speaker 9: and all that, and what we've seen so far he

509
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 9: looks good. But I'm always hesitating, like to give someone

510
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Speaker 9: a long term deal or you know, even.

511
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Speaker 3: If it's just two three years coming.

512
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Speaker 9: It's just something that you just haven't seen it. You

513
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Speaker 9: just haven't seen him full go just yet. And I

514
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Speaker 9: mean they feel confident about him being the guy for

515
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Speaker 9: this year, but there's still a lot of question marks

516
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Speaker 9: there that we haven't just we haven't seen just yet.

517
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have to say this. I've been waiting all

518
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Speaker 6: off season to say this. This whole thing with running backs.

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Speaker 6: This is basic economics. Like the first class I took

520
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Speaker 6: at Texas, it was an economics class, and I remember

521
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Speaker 6: them talking specifically one day about the fact that when

522
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Speaker 6: supply increases, that drives down price. That's all that's happening

523
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Speaker 6: here is you have a number of running backs that

524
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Speaker 6: are coming into the league, and what teams have realized

525
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Speaker 6: is that they're plentiful.

526
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Speaker 2: There are lots of them.

527
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Speaker 6: And by the way, what you get the production you

528
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Speaker 6: get from a seventh eighth year veteran running back and

529
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Speaker 6: what you get.

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Speaker 3: From a rookie running back right now, but.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, and what you get from a rookie

532
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Speaker 6: running back is not terribly different. And so when you

533
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Speaker 6: have a large amount of supply and they're pretty comparable,

534
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Speaker 6: what ends up happening is price goes down. The cost

535
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Speaker 6: of getting one is cheaper. And so that's all that's happening.

536
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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: The other thing you gotta remember is this also can

538
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Speaker 6: flip too, because sometimes when you drive that price down,

539
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 6: what ends up happening is supply also goes down. What

540
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Speaker 6: starts happening is kids in little league, in middle school

541
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Speaker 6: ball and high school ball, Dad saying, hey, son, we're

542
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Speaker 6: not gonna play running back. We're gonna play wide receiver.

543
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Speaker 6: You'll think me right, We're gonna play linebacker. You'll thank

544
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Speaker 6: me later. And what ends up happening is now you

545
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 6: have a less kids wanting to play that position, and

546
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Speaker 6: you have a less supply. The most talented athletes are

547
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 6: not going to running back anymore. They're going to other positions,

548
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Speaker 6: and then it's driving that price back up because it's

549
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Speaker 6: harder to find a good But this is all cyclical,

550
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Speaker 6: it's all economics.

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Speaker 2: This is all economics.

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Speaker 4: That's economics is cyclical because you know, not so long ago,

553
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 4: it was a league that was so quarterback driven, so

554
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: past offense driven, that felt that any team would take

555
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Speaker 4: a running back in the top ten, top five. But

556
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Speaker 4: then here comes Ezekiel Elliott, Derek Henry, Christian McCaffrey, Leonard Fournette,

557
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 4: and then the running backs were the stars there, John Robinson,

558
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 4: they were the star of the show. And b Jon

559
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 4: kind of broke ranking. As we're talking about the press

560
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 4: RB market. But in that stretch of time it cycled

561
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Speaker 4: back to running backs being valuable, and now their their

562
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Speaker 4: market is depressed. But inevitably, as.

563
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Speaker 7: Economics goes, for one reason or another.

564
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Speaker 2: It's going.

565
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Speaker 4: I believe it'll get back to them, but just right now,

566
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Speaker 4: it's got to be figured out.

567
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Speaker 3: The running back.

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Speaker 8: Okay, we always talked about, oh you could take a

569
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Speaker 8: third or fourth or fifth round guy. Maybe the stupid

570
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Speaker 8: scouts missed these running backs instead of them being fifth, sixth,

571
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Speaker 8: seventh round running backs like the Pacheco in Kansas City,

572
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Speaker 8: maybe he should have been taken in the second round.

573
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Speaker 8: You know, maybe I know it's all you could just

574
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 8: you could plug anybody in and all that. Maybe there's

575
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Speaker 8: been some misevaluation about the running back position that all

576
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Speaker 8: of a sudden these guys show up or they're in

577
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Speaker 8: a small school that the colleges didn't you know, didn't

578
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Speaker 8: recruit the right kid, and all of a sudden he

579
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Speaker 8: ends up at Directional Louisiana School instead of ending up

580
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Speaker 8: at LSU or.

581
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Speaker 3: Someplace like that. Yeah, So, to me, like the talent

582
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Speaker 3: for and the need for running backs are still there.

583
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Speaker 8: I think the evaluation of the running back and just

584
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Speaker 8: to say, oh you could take them or get them anywhere,

585
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Speaker 8: I think there's been a lot of misevaluation of how

586
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Speaker 8: good these guys were.

587
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Speaker 4: That's actually the biggest problem is is like you're saying everyone,

588
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 4: in my opinion, needs to stop lumping all running backs

589
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Speaker 4: into one bucket and saying I can just pick from

590
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Speaker 4: this bucket whenever I want and get the same or

591
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Speaker 4: similar production. That's not always the case. I've always been

592
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 4: a champion enough hashtag run matter. But in that being said,

593
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Speaker 4: I also state that not all running backs are the

594
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: same as the other running backs, right. Not every running

595
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: back coming out of college is capable as b John Robinson,

596
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 4: Ezekiel Elliott, Dereck Henry. You're gonna have some guys that

597
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 4: are capable, but they're true fourth, fifth, sixth round guys,

598
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Speaker 4: and I think the conversation needs to be let's stop

599
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Speaker 4: assuming that a guy who justifiably is a sixth round

600
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Speaker 4: flyer can step in and do the production as a

601
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Speaker 4: Dereck Henry. When that conversation becomes more rightful and more justifiable,

602
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Speaker 4: then I think things will start to turn.

603
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Speaker 8: You watching Christian McCaffrey play when the teams know how

604
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Speaker 8: to use him, Yeah, you know, when they throw him

605
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 8: the ball in the swing and the screens and stuff.

606
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Speaker 8: Like I told I told the running back coach here,

607
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 8: I said, listen, hey, you figure out how to run

608
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Speaker 8: a screen game for this football team. I'll throw a

609
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Speaker 8: parade for you in downtown Dallas. You know, I can't

610
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Speaker 8: tell you the last time they threw the ball the

611
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Speaker 8: running back. If you find these some of these coordinators

612
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Speaker 8: find ways to get these guys going to where all

613
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Speaker 8: of a sudden's like, okay, I see the value here.

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Speaker 3: I see the matchup values here, you know, and I

615
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: you know, I think it's I find it's wrong, and

616
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: it's the position is devalued. I really do.

617
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 8: Kansas City won the Super Bowl because what they could

618
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 8: do Mahomes wasn't great. All of a sudden, what did

619
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Speaker 8: they start doing. They started running the football in the

620
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 8: second half. They blocked Philadelphia up front and were able

621
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Speaker 8: to kill that game running it.

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Speaker 9: You know.

623
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Speaker 3: So to me, I kind of feel like there is

624
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Speaker 3: value for that. I live that.

625
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 8: I lived that working for the Packers and watching EMMITTT.

626
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 8: Smith then build a lead in those games and just

627
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 8: hammer the ball at us and we couldn't stop them.

628
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 8: You know, there's value in that destroying somebody's will to compete,

629
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Speaker 8: and running backs do that.

630
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Speaker 6: In my opinion, yeah, no, I think everyone agrees with

631
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 6: the value of what they are, and what I mean

632
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 6: by that is what they bring to the game. But

633
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 6: the point is that most teams a starting most teams

634
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 6: are starting to realize that you can just get one

635
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 6: for cheaper. Because I thought it was interesting when you said,

636
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 6: you know, there may be a misevaluation of player.

637
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Speaker 7: Here's what I would ask you. One of the things

638
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Speaker 7: I've always wondered is it's.

639
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Speaker 3: Not a lot well, no, no, no.

640
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Speaker 6: From the standpoint of where I sit, where you know,

641
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 6: playing fantasy football is not obviously how it works there.

642
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 6: But in fantasy football, when you look at a draft,

643
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 6: the way you think about it is it's not necessarily

644
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Speaker 6: where the player deserves to go, it's where can I

645
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 6: get the player.

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Speaker 10: Right.

647
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Speaker 6: So there might be a player who is worthy of

648
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 6: being a second round pick, right, but I know in

649
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 6: my draft I can get him in.

650
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: The fourth round. Then I'm gonna put him in the

651
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Speaker 2: fourth round.

652
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Speaker 6: So I think for the running backs, I don't know

653
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 6: that I necessarily think it's a misevaluation as much as

654
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 6: teams are starting to realize because everybody else has devalued

655
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Speaker 6: the PI position to some degree, I can get a

656
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Speaker 6: guy that maybe has talent to be a first second

657
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Speaker 6: third rounder. I can maybe get him in the fourth round.

658
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 6: I can maybe get him in the fifth round, because

659
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Speaker 6: that's where everybody would normally take them.

660
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. And to me though, I.

661
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Speaker 8: Were when we were on the draft show leading up

662
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Speaker 8: to the draft and we kept talking about Bjon Robinson

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Speaker 8: and like, well, he could go with seven, he could

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Speaker 2: And he's very talented.

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Speaker 8: And it was ridiculous to me when they started talking

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Speaker 8: about that Dallas could probably get him, you know, it

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Speaker 8: And where he went to Atlanta. I was like, there

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Speaker 8: you go, that's where he should have gone. And so

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Speaker 8: to me that makes sense. But I think where people

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Speaker 3: Backs get paid. You know, what are you getting for

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Speaker 3: fifteen million dollars? So what are you getting for twelve

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. And this is my final point

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Speaker 4: If you're a team that's, you know, trying to figure

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Speaker 4: hope you got your oil situation set up.

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Speaker 2: Back to the Break.

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Speaker 6: from Oxen Art, California. Mentioning that Star magazine this is

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Speaker 6: I love this thing because heading into training camp, I

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Speaker 6: spent a few weeks like going through this every day,

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Speaker 6: just familiarizing myself with all the names, all the players,

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Speaker 6: all the different things you gotta know when you get

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Speaker 6: If you are a big Cowboys fan, you need this

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Speaker 6: for this upcoming season as we enter training camp.

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Speaker 2: So make sure go.

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Speaker 3: I check it out.

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Speaker 9: Just because I've made a post on my Instagram about

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Speaker 9: it and I got so so many people asking me

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Speaker 9: about the schedule poster that we see something normal, we

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Speaker 9: just pull it out and put it all over. But

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Speaker 9: it's crazy the amount of people that actually want to.

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Speaker 2: Have this poster.

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Speaker 9: It's really cool to you just pull it out of

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Speaker 9: the magazine, put it somewhere and you just can follow

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Speaker 9: the whole schedule.

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Speaker 8: And is that it used to be in your desk

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Speaker 8: where you had it up and then there was a

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Speaker 8: bad loss and you wrote something yours were or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, outside game, like you write the score.

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Speaker 3: Like win win win, and then like it'd be a

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Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 2: But you know something. You go through our office and

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Speaker 2: you'll go through the desk.

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Speaker 6: You can count the number of desks that had this

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Speaker 6: up like I about everybody puts it up.

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Speaker 8: It's such a quick it's such a quick reference and

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Speaker 8: losses down. And she would she'd write curse words in

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Speaker 8: Spanish after a bad game.

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Speaker 4: Well, I have an X over the preseason games OS

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Speaker 4: and it's is I d C because I don't care about.

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Speaker 2: About everybody stay healthy? Question everybody stay healthy.

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Speaker 6: I got two more comments from you guys from the

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Speaker 6: opening press conference.

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Speaker 2: We're asking you if you agree or disagree.

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Speaker 6: When ask about Mike McCarthy taking over the offense, Jerry responded,

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Speaker 6: it's not about what Kellen wasn't, but about what Mike is.

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Speaker 2: You agree or disagree?

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Speaker 9: That's a that's an interesting one because I have mixed

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Speaker 9: feeling about it. One I haven't fully seen, or I

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Speaker 9: don't think we have in this team. Obviously, we haven't

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Speaker 9: fully seen Mike McCarthy calling the place and taking.

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Speaker 3: Over that role.

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Speaker 9: I thought Kellen Moore this pied the areas where he lacked.

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Speaker 9: I think overall, he started his career very very good,

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Speaker 9: and he took the Cowboys to another level. He elevated

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Speaker 9: the Cowboys offense. And it's shown by proof that there

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Speaker 9: were in many areas the number one in the league,

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Speaker 9: but there were still they didn't get to where they

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Speaker 9: needed There were a lot of areas that needed improvement overall.

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Speaker 9: Going back to that time, I still have problems with

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Speaker 9: thinking that despite you having different ideas and not wanting

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Speaker 9: to butt heads with your offensive coordinator, I still think

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Speaker 9: there were times that you as a head coach, and

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Speaker 9: we don't know this fully, but that I think maybe

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Speaker 9: he should have taken over, Maybe he should have intervened

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Speaker 9: because there goes that season. That season is gone, and

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Speaker 9: we thought at the time the Coways had a shot.

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Speaker 9: I think the last few years we thought the Cowboys

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Speaker 9: have had a shot.

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Speaker 3: And so I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I'm curious to see how well McCarthy does. I think

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Speaker 9: he came to training camp in really really good spirits.

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Speaker 9: You guys know, well, you know, Derek and I've talked

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Speaker 9: about this on the show before. I'm super about vibes

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Speaker 9: and energy and all that body language. I like to

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Speaker 9: observe those things, and McCarthy came out here with his

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Speaker 9: energy on point. He got out of out of that

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Speaker 9: just see him take over that role. But I mean

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Speaker 9: that's a great way for Jerry to put it, because

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Speaker 9: what else can you say about that you appreciate what

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Speaker 9: Kellen did for you, but also now you're turning the

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Speaker 9: page and giving McCarthy the chance.

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Speaker 4: I agree with that that part of the statement from Jerry,

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Speaker 4: and and because I'm on record as saying I believe

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Speaker 4: that Kellen Moore was underrated by most of the fan base.

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Speaker 4: I think Kellen Moore was a very very capable offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: But two things can be true at the same time.

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Speaker 4: And the other side of that truth is Kellen Moore's

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Speaker 4: tendencies often got in his way of what might have

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Speaker 4: been a better situational play called talk about how the

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Speaker 4: game winning Green Bay, talk about how the game winning Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: When you have a lead like that, you kind.

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Speaker 4: Of want to start going to old school, maybe get

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Speaker 4: that run, run the ball in, work the clock. But

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Speaker 4: with Kellen Moore's exit to Los Angeles, now we're not

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Speaker 4: only going to see Mike McCarthy, who is in fantastic sperience.

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Speaker 4: He said himself, he's having fun. He's on the plays again.

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Speaker 4: But the question now is he's going into year four

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Speaker 4: of what's reportedly a five year contract it's time for

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys to see if there's an evolved Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 4: as a play caller, as this is a pivotal season

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Speaker 4: for this offense, Mike McCarthy his staff, So now you

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Speaker 4: have these changes. So I do agree that it's about

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Speaker 4: time to find out what version of Mike McCarthy exists

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Speaker 4: now and if it's the version that is going to

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Speaker 4: be able to mix that old school style with some

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Speaker 4: of these analytics, these new guys like John Park that

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Speaker 4: he's bringing in, what does that look like?

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Speaker 2: And I think the Cowboys are on a good role

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I feel like in the last couple of years you

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Speaker 8: were first in points and fourth in points under Kelln Moore.

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Speaker 8: There's some things that Kellen Moore was really really good at.

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Speaker 8: I think the Green Bay game was when Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 8: had enough. I think that game right there, he had

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Speaker 8: circled that game is I'm gonna go back to lambeau Field.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna win this team. He had this game and

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Speaker 3: grasp he had it right there.

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Speaker 8: In his hand, that postcam press I was and at

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Speaker 8: that point in time when that happened, that's when I

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Speaker 8: think he said no I've got to do something.

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Speaker 3: And to Ambar's point, you know, maybe there needed to

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Speaker 3: be more of that.

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Speaker 8: And again, I'm not acting like I was on the headset,

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Speaker 8: but the head coach does have the ability to click

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Speaker 8: over and say, hey, listen, man, I'm gonna go for

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Speaker 8: here and four down. You got two plays to get

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Speaker 8: this thing in there, you know, or hey, you need

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Speaker 8: to run this ball more. We can't be in this situation.

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Speaker 8: We got to find a way to burn some of

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Speaker 8: this clock. You're responsible for doing that. Well, now he's

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Speaker 8: just taking that away from Kellen Moore instead of clicking

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Speaker 8: over and talking to an offensive coordinator, you know, up

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Speaker 8: in the box, probably Brian Schottenheimer's gonna remind him, Hey, Mike,

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Speaker 8: get to this if you can't. This is what they're

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Speaker 8: showing us. Get to this if you can't. And so

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Speaker 8: maybe that it's just a matter of him getting back

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Speaker 8: in the rhythm.

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Speaker 3: As a play caller.

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Speaker 8: But it's interesting because if you go back and look

886
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Speaker 8: at Green Bay stuff, you know how much movement. Everybody's

887
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Speaker 8: always freaking out about movement and motion and deceptives and

888
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Speaker 8: all that stuffs, And so everybody sees that, and then

889
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Speaker 8: you come from a pro grim and Green Bay, where

890
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Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers was like, give me the static offense. I

891
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 8: just want to read this myself. I don't need you

892
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Speaker 8: moving guys around. So it'll be interesting to see. Brian

893
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Speaker 8: Schoenheimer talked about thirty about seventy percent of the offense

894
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Speaker 8: could remain the same. The thirty percent, to me is

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Speaker 8: what I was talking about the screen game or in

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Speaker 8: the running game, and how not to get shut down

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Speaker 8: in the second half of the football season if you

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Speaker 8: go back and study, and a lot of it had

899
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Speaker 8: to do with what happened there at right tackle, you know,

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Speaker 8: and Tyre and Tyron Smith having to move around. But

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Speaker 8: Mike is a play caller. It's gonna I think they're

902
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Speaker 8: gonna have to come out of the gate early, and

903
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Speaker 8: he's gonna have to find a rhythm.

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Speaker 3: They can't be like kind of.

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Speaker 8: Feeling their way and being three and three to start

906
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Speaker 8: the season and everybody going, well, is this thing gonna

907
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Speaker 8: really work?

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Speaker 3: He's putting a lot of pressure on himself now calling

909
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Speaker 3: these plays.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think the thing that Cheff to note,

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Speaker 6: I know you noticed the number of points that the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys scored over the last two years. I think The

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Speaker 6: interesting thing is there were games though, where the offense

914
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Speaker 6: just seemed to sputter, and I think those are the

915
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Speaker 6: times when that's where, yeah, that's that's where game.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the Tampa game, you couldn't have drawn that up

917
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Speaker 8: any better for Kellen wore and these Cowboys the way

918
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Speaker 8: that win. But then the San Francisco games is it

919
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Speaker 8: are teams that you play that have really good front's,

920
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Speaker 8: physical fronts going to give you problems, right, and how

921
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Speaker 8: do you work out of how do you work And

922
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Speaker 8: I think that's the thirty percent of the office exactly

923
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Speaker 8: they're trying to figure.

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Speaker 6: Out right, right, because by the way, at this point,

925
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Speaker 6: when you're twelve and five back to back seasons, you're

926
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Speaker 6: not trying to make seismic changes. You're looking for those

927
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Speaker 6: little tweaks weeks, and that's where I think, you know,

928
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Speaker 6: for Mike McCarthy, he's like, yeah, Kellen Moore could be

929
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Speaker 6: really great. And let's also remember, I think this gets

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00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 6: lost in it. This was a situation where the Cowboys

931
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Speaker 6: are like, you gotta go, Kellen. This was a mutual

932
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Speaker 6: parting of ways. Oh, Kellen every bit wanted to go

933
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Speaker 6: to San Diego, as maybe the Cowboys wanted to to

934
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Speaker 6: move to Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think it was just a hey, get

936
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Speaker 2: out of the door.

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Speaker 3: There was not a firing here.

938
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Speaker 2: This exactly.

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Speaker 8: This was like he probably felt like after the Green

940
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Speaker 8: Bay game, coaches have been around him, they closed their door,

941
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Speaker 8: they get on the phone, they talk to the buddies

942
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Speaker 8: around the league, and you know, they were having struggles

943
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Speaker 8: in Los Angeles. Joe Lombardi wasn't doing a good enough job.

944
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Speaker 8: They weren't get in the development. So it made it

945
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Speaker 8: really easy for Kellen Wore to find a soft landing spot.

946
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Speaker 6: Right, all right, let's move on. We got one final

947
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Speaker 6: statement that I have for you guys. We don't have

948
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Speaker 6: one minute, but I think this one could take a

949
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Speaker 6: little while. We can always carry over to the next show.

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Speaker 6: Here's a statement. When asked about the Kicker situation, Jared responded,

951
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Speaker 6: I think we've got in camp.

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Speaker 3: What can be the answer?

953
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Speaker 2: Agree? Disagree? Let's go ahead disagree and again, so you guys,

954
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Speaker 2: you don't believe that Viscayano is the answer. I don't.

955
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Speaker 4: I don't have the body of work in front of

956
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Speaker 4: me to be able to agree. Now, viscay Aino or

957
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Speaker 4: Brandon Aubrey. They could come in and they could knock

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Speaker 4: it out the park, and I hope one of them do.

959
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Speaker 4: But until I see that. You look at Aubrey's work,

960
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Speaker 4: former soccer player and now he's a kicker, former USFL.

961
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Speaker 4: You look at Tris Guyano. This is not his first

962
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Speaker 4: attempt at sticking with an NFL team, let alone the Cowboys.

963
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Speaker 4: I just I don't have enough evidence to say I agree,

964
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Speaker 4: and the lack of evidence leads me to disagree until further.

965
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Speaker 8: I know one thing I asked for at my gang

966
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Speaker 8: of seven, my pro personnel guys and gals around the league,

967
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Speaker 8: and I asked about Aubrey and my one of my

968
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Speaker 8: guys and this is a team that needs a kicker

969
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Speaker 8: that I asked and he says he was really good

970
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Speaker 8: in Birmingham, Smooth, accurate, poised, good at kickoffs as well,

971
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Speaker 8: kickoffs as well, her very good person and a wiring

972
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Speaker 8: for the position as well. Which so that to me

973
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Speaker 8: the mental part, because the mental part out here will

974
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Speaker 8: be the key because every time it used to be

975
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Speaker 8: you stand out here and when they do the kicking stuff,

976
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Speaker 8: everybody would.

977
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Speaker 3: Stand around and just kind of talk to each other.

978
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Speaker 8: Now everybody is watching everybody's charting and the wind coming

979
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Speaker 8: over the top of these trees, and we got these

980
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Speaker 8: new structures around. They'll be there'll be some there'll be

981
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Speaker 8: some days where these kickers might not look great and

982
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Speaker 8: other days where we're like, oh, maybe this is the right.

983
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Speaker 9: Guy and this is not gonna happen. But I'm like,

984
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Speaker 9: can we have just like four kickers and have a true.

985
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Speaker 2: Tried to get a third?

986
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Speaker 7: It's just I think that's what led to I think

987
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Speaker 7: we've got in camp what may be the answer?

988
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Speaker 2: Well, they said that last year, though, but he also

989
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Speaker 2: said all options are open.

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Speaker 8: True, So they thought they had two kickers last year,

991
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Speaker 8: and it sure didn't go that way.

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Speaker 6: All right, we appreciate you guys joining us for our

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Speaker 6: maiden voyage of this new version of Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: Break Patrick, nice job. Nice job to our normal our.

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Speaker 2: Normal crew here. We're ready to get into this season.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot let me speak, you talk too much.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's where you're gonna have to just like this,

998
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Speaker 7: just elbow your way.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Mattelone, teach you anything in there.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys join us. We'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, we'll be back Friday for our next edition

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