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Speaker 1: All right, we're back at the table again. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: being here, everybody. Parker, thank you for being here. Ant

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Speaker 1: Man love podcast days like this we get to walk

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Speaker 1: few things that I want to talk about for sure.

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Speaker 1: One of them is the recent news as we record

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Speaker 1: this podcast. John MacArthur, pastor of Grace Community in California,

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Speaker 1: has met glory. He's passed away in the as we

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Speaker 1: record this, it was last night we got the news.

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Speaker 1: Amber and I were on a walk and I knew

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Speaker 1: that he was sick. He had pneumonia and he was

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Speaker 1: People were saying things like, this is the sickness that

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Speaker 1: I was keeping it Dutch. It was Sean that texted me.

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Speaker 1: He said he passed, and I knew what he was

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Speaker 1: like within thirty minutes. Sean texted me, I was on

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Speaker 1: Amber just immediately, you know, welled up and her eyes

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Speaker 1: years of his ministry and the impact on our family,

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Speaker 1: and I know on your family as well, Parker and

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Speaker 1: so many listening his How would you describe in Parker,

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Speaker 1: his just unashamed, steady devotion, his just kind of rock

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Speaker 2: He was the first pastor that I listened to after

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Speaker 2: someone to just tell me how it is right. And

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Speaker 2: up right here is called becoming a Better You, says

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Speaker 2: The title on YouTube is John MacArthur Becoming a Better You.

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Speaker 2: Question Mark has six million views. And I was so

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Speaker 2: caught up in the self help movement of everything's just

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Speaker 2: he just like destroyed that notion and was like, that

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Speaker 2: not to step on people's toes to offend them with Christianity.

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Speaker 2: MacArthur's just like, this is what the Bible says, and

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Speaker 2: I declare that this is what God says. And there's

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Speaker 2: something about that that, as Mark Dever would say, it

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Speaker 2: turns away the non believers, but to the true Christian

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Speaker 2: it gets their feet dumping. They're just like, Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: Just give it.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what does the Bible stay say?

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Speaker 1: Tell me how it is? So yeah, it's home, it's

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Speaker 1: I say some of these things for people that don't

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Speaker 1: Charles Junior said, John MacArthur has been an unspeakable blessing

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Speaker 1: to the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ. As his

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Speaker 1: work ends, his impact and influence will continue for years

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Speaker 1: to come. Rest well, faithful soldier of the Cross Mark

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Speaker 1: dever On here says, I am but one of the

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Speaker 1: countless under shepherds of God's flock whom John has powerfully

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Speaker 1: and regularly encouraged. Kevin Deyong said John was never anything

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Speaker 1: thanks for his Bible shaped life and his Bible saturated ministry.

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Speaker 1: Liccoan Duncan said John preached Christ and the Lord blessed

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Speaker 1: his ministry in bringing many laws sheep home and feeding

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Speaker 1: guarding those found sheep with God's word. Al Mohler said

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Speaker 1: John MacArthur was one of the most significant exponent of

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Speaker 1: expository preaching of his generation. His ministry and exposition radiated

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Speaker 1: As with all powerful expositional preaching, no description can capture

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Speaker 3: Really, John five one through fifteen, and it was literally

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Speaker 3: stop sinning, so nothing worse happens? No, really, really did?

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Speaker 1: You didn't know I was preaching that. Just walked in

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Speaker 1: and saw all the books in your.

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Speaker 3: That's why I kind of went when I walked off,

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Speaker 3: because I asked, what yoga? What are you all this study?

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Speaker 3: And I have a picture of the desk. It's just

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Speaker 3: has books open, and I said, what are you studying today?

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Speaker 3: That says this for are you preaching soon? He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: preaching on John chapter five? Yep.

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Speaker 1: So you and I have stood there that pulled a

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Speaker 1: bethesday in Israel yep, right outside of Saint Ane's cathedral.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that that was what was the next verse.

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Speaker 3: The next verse was in Matthew twenty two and they're

448
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Speaker 3: trying to catch Jesus in a in a liar in

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Speaker 3: something that they could arrest him for. They said, should

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Speaker 3: they pay taxes to Caesar? He's like, hen me a coin,

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Speaker 3: and I read it, but you can go look it up.

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Speaker 3: He's like, whose name and title is stamped on this?

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Speaker 3: They said, Caesar? Cool, and give to Caesar what is Caesar's?

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Speaker 3: But he doesn't end there. Give to God what is God's?

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Speaker 3: But he doesn't explain that. And I thought as I

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Speaker 3: read that, I was like, oh, but his image is

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Speaker 3: stamped in our DNA. We were made in his likeness.

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Speaker 3: So what's stamped on us is God. And if you're redeemed,

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Speaker 3: that's your title. So now give to God what is God's?

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Speaker 3: What is that you?

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Speaker 1: Otherwise your counterfeit?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: What do we do with counterfeits?

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Speaker 3: Well you get a person using it goes to jail,

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, so it gets destroyed about John five.

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Speaker 3: So stop sinning and give yourself to God.

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Speaker 1: So that that's what I got. I didn't pick that, obviously,

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Speaker 1: that's just where we are at a mass, and that

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Speaker 1: that's just what I'm up up with. But you know,

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Speaker 1: see you or well send no more that nothing worse

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Speaker 1: may happen to you. We don't know. We don't know

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Speaker 1: a lot about this. One thing we know about this

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Speaker 1: about this story is that the man that was healed

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Speaker 1: is not healed because of faith, like the man that

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Speaker 1: was lowered down through the roof. And this man doesn't

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Speaker 1: actually show anything. Jesus singles him out a very specific

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Speaker 1: place where there's a multitude. It says, of these people

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Speaker 1: that are lame and sick and paralyzed on a very

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Speaker 1: specific day. And he does a very specific thing to

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Speaker 1: a very specific man, and the man doesn't have anything

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Speaker 1: to do with anything. He says, do you want to

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Speaker 1: be healed? Es says, you want to be healed? Otherwise rendered?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to be made well? Which is interesting

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Speaker 1: that we'd made it. It's like created, will you be

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Speaker 1: made well? And he's asking him that. Of course Jesus

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Speaker 1: knows everything, but he asked him that question, and it

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Speaker 1: would be like it would be like someone someone once

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Speaker 1: what's a good example trying to go to maybe a

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Speaker 1: go to a therapist is one example. Someone going to

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Speaker 1: a secular therapy because they're having, you know, childhood trauma.

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Speaker 1: It's like we would ask them, are you trying to

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Speaker 1: be healed? It's not that it's not that we don't

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Speaker 1: know the answer to the question. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is not going to do it right. It would

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Speaker 1: be like if Maverick was out here and he was

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Speaker 1: trying to wash his go kart off from mud, and

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Speaker 1: he had a muddy rag and he's wiping them go

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Speaker 1: I would say, are you trying to clean that right?

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Speaker 1: I know what his answer is, but I'm saying this

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Speaker 1: is not you know, this is not the way to

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Speaker 1: clean this right. So he asked the man that do

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Speaker 1: you want to be healed? The sick man answered, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have no willing. It makes an excuse. Jesus said

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Speaker 1: to him, get up, which is rise a rise. It's

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Speaker 1: the same same word he used for the little girl.

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Speaker 1: I say to you a rise, and the dead girl.

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Speaker 1: And he says same word. He says to the the

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Speaker 1: paralytic that was let down for the roof, rise, take

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Speaker 1: up your bed and walk. That didn't require this man.

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Speaker 1: This healing didn't require the man's faith. And then Jesus says,

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Speaker 1: and at once the man was healed, and he took

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Speaker 1: up his bed and walked. So he's healed. And then

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Speaker 1: he takes up his bed and walks. So many interesting things.

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Speaker 1: The next the next verses, Now that day was the Sabbath.

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Speaker 1: Jesus would have known you can't carry your not that

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Speaker 1: you can't. He would have known that the Jews, the leaders,

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Speaker 1: would have thought that you can't carry this. Jesus could

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Speaker 1: have easily said, get up, leave your mat there and walk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't have to pick up and roll up

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Speaker 3: the mat and take it with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, yeah, take your mat, knowing this is

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Speaker 1: a show. He's heading for a showdown. But to your

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Speaker 1: point up here, he says, He says, later when he

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Speaker 1: finds him in the temple, sin no more so that

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Speaker 1: nothing worse may happen to you.

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Speaker 3: Well, love that whole. The end between that, though, too,

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Speaker 3: is that he just disappears. Jesus just disappears, and the

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Speaker 3: Pharisees going to be like, what are you doing? You

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Speaker 3: can't do He goes the guy who healed me told

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Speaker 3: me to do it.

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Speaker 1: The word in Greek is the same word for dodge. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jesus dodged the crowd.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then he shows but he goes out to

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Speaker 3: find the man again in the temple.

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Speaker 1: Sees him in the temple, which would be the first

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Speaker 1: time this man could go in the temple. A defiled

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Speaker 1: man can't go in the temple right, So he's going there,

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Speaker 1: you would think to praise the Lord, for hey, I

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Speaker 1: could walk. I can go in the temple now, not

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Speaker 1: only to praise God, but I can now. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: able to for thirty eight years. I can go in

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Speaker 1: there now. And he goes in there, and Jesus finds him, says, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're healed. Good, don't do it, don't sin anymore, or

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Speaker 1: something worse may happen to you. That's different than go

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Speaker 1: your faith has healed you. Sure, that's different. He tells

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Speaker 1: other people you're forgiven, like the woman that was that

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Speaker 1: was crying and her weeping and her tears were falling

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Speaker 1: on Jesus' feet, and he says, your sins are forgiven.

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Speaker 1: Your faith has healed you. He doesn't say that to

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Speaker 1: this man. He's physically healed, but not he's not saved

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Speaker 1: spiritually healed yet. So it's very This is just a

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Speaker 1: very interesting story. And it's very interesting that you were

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Speaker 1: thinking that through this stroke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, through the whole thing, and I whether you know, yes,

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Speaker 3: things that I need to deal with, but also the

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Speaker 3: message of it of the two things, and I don't

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Speaker 3: think there are two things were put together by accident.

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Speaker 3: It was stop sinning and give yourself to God. What

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Speaker 3: is already stamped in you. You give to Caesar what

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Speaker 3: is Caesar's? Give to God what is God's?

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Speaker 1: And and you're healed from the stroke. So that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's that. Yeah, it's like you're healed.

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Speaker 3: I don't have any side of that. I had had

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Speaker 3: one day, I said in one day, I had one

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Speaker 3: instance that had lasted a couple of days, that my

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Speaker 3: left arm felt really light. If you were worked out

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Speaker 3: and then try to go in and grab a bottle

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Speaker 3: of water sitting on a cabinet and you go past it,

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Speaker 3: or you grab it and run through it, you know,

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Speaker 3: you may knock it off. That's what it felt like

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Speaker 3: to me. Is that left. And then after those couple

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Speaker 3: of days, it was everything's normal, I'm lifting it again.

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Speaker 3: So yesterday was the first day for that getting back

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Speaker 3: and working out. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: What do you got cooked over here?

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Speaker 2: Well, what you said about giving yourself to God just

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Speaker 2: reminded me of what I've been thinking about. I've been

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Speaker 2: on Romans twelve. I've just been reading it over and

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Speaker 2: over and over again in the last week and a

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Speaker 2: half and I read this morning for from him it

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Speaker 2: is the end of eleven beginning of twelve. For from him,

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Speaker 2: and through him and to him are all things. To

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Speaker 2: Him be glory forever.

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Speaker 1: Amen.

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Speaker 2: I appeal to you, therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God,

587
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Speaker 2: to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and

588
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Speaker 2: acceptable to God, which is.

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Speaker 1: Your spiritual worship.

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Speaker 2: Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed

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Speaker 2: by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you

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Speaker 2: may discern what is the will of God, what is

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Speaker 2: good and acceptable and perfect. And it's like each verse

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Speaker 2: of twelve you could just think about all day. But

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Speaker 2: the idea of because of who God is and because

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Speaker 2: of what He's done through his son, therefore present your

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Speaker 2: body as a living sacrifice.

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Speaker 3: It's got you.

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Speaker 2: Like the Bible says, we are not our own. He

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Speaker 2: owns us, He owns you, he owns me. He's completely

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Speaker 2: and totally in control. He saved us, He's adopted us

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Speaker 2: as children. He said, We're going to be with him

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Speaker 2: in paradise, And so what do we do there for

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Speaker 2: but live as a present our bodies as a living sacrifice,

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Speaker 2: giving him everything's his.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: That's great, you know. I with this talk, all this

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Speaker 1: talk about MacArthur, it's hard not to also talk about

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Speaker 1: Urc Sproll, who we lost in twenty seventeen. Another just

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Speaker 1: titan of the faith and friend of MacArthur. And if

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Speaker 1: people don't know Sproll, then oh there's there's a lot

612
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: of a lot of harvesting you could do with that man.

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Speaker 1: Just dig dig dig dig Urc Sproll. Anyway, I was

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00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: watching him the other day. He's another probably taught five

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00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: for me of guys I just have enjoyed listened to

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00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: over the years. He just such, he has taught me

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Speaker 1: so well. And he's not even you know, he died

618
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Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. He still teaches me. But I saw

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Speaker 1: him the other day on YouTube in his later years,

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Speaker 1: and I don't remember. I wish I could find the reference,

621
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Speaker 1: but I don't remember what I was looking at. But

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Speaker 1: he was preaching, and he had oxygen machine on him

623
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Speaker 1: with the tubes up his nose, and he had the mic.

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Speaker 1: He's at the pulpit. He had the mic coming around

625
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Speaker 1: so you could hear hear them the Darth Vader, you know,

626
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Speaker 1: and he was just preaching fire wow, and he was like,

627
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Speaker 1: and our Lord says in commands that that, you know,

628
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Speaker 1: just just scripture and fire and just preaching and just

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Speaker 1: and beautiful exposition. And you just reminded that his body's

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Speaker 1: a living sacrifice, like you said in Romans twelve, you're

631
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Speaker 1: reminded that of the falling world we live in and

632
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: send the corruption of our own bodies. But while he's here,

633
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Speaker 1: he's using this body to the very end. And RC did, man,

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Speaker 1: he used every bit that the Lord gave him to

635
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Speaker 1: the very end. Up at that pulpit, could barely stand

636
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Speaker 1: with oxygen shooting up his nose and his mouth preaching fire.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I told Dan, I said, that's what

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Speaker 1: I want to do. I mean, I got tears to

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Speaker 1: my eyes when I was in my eyes when I

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00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: was watching that. I just thought, that's what I want

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Speaker 1: to do. Lord, use me to the very end. Until

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Speaker 1: I have no oxygen left, I have to pump it

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Speaker 1: in with the with the tank. That's what I want

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Speaker 1: to do. And you could just see the light in

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Speaker 1: his eyes. His eyes were lit up as he was

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Speaker 1: preaching the gospel. His oxygen was a shooting in his nostrils.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just the way those pastors are built. That's what

648
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 2: they always say, Like, if you can do anything else

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Speaker 2: and be content, do it. But those preachers, man, they

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Speaker 2: just they, like Spurgeon said, if you can literally do

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Speaker 2: nothing else without thinking about expounding and talking about the

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Speaker 2: Word of God, then like you were called to be

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Speaker 2: a preacher. And so for Aunt or me or people listening,

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Speaker 2: and you're like, well, I don't want to preach. What

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Speaker 2: does that mean for me? Well, we'll each have our

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Speaker 2: own gifts. Yeah, So just because you're not saying that

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Speaker 2: you want to spend every breath that you have preaching,

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Speaker 2: that's totally okay. I think that, like, each person has

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Speaker 2: their own gifts. And so for Aunt, that means for

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Speaker 2: him to present his body as a living sacrifice tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 2: to say, this day's yours God, my body's yours, my

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Speaker 2: money's yours. Everything that could look differently than it does

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Speaker 2: for Granger or you know, depending on what your profession is,

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Speaker 2: what would it look like for each of us and

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Speaker 2: each person listening tomorrow morning, whether you're an investment banker

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Speaker 2: or whether you're you're washing dishes at the local restaurant,

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Speaker 2: what would it mean for you.

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Speaker 1: To, to, uh.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart

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Speaker 2: as unto the Lord.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm trying to find a video of this

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Speaker 1: and i'll show you later. But uh, there's a few

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Speaker 1: of them with let's see mischief. That's actually him and macarthur' talking. Well.

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Speaker 3: You can hear.

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Speaker 4: That Jesus was fully God and fully man. If you

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Speaker 4: mean by that that that one person was absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Totally yep, God, keep it going today if you go

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Speaker 2: to the end. He has a funny uh, a funny

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Speaker 2: back and forth with MacArthur. I remember he says. MacArthur

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Speaker 2: says Jesus was fully God and fully man and r

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Speaker 2: c being.

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Speaker 4: Or all kinds of mischief, god fully man, with all

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Speaker 4: the reasonableness of man.

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Speaker 1: So there's MacArthur truly God and truly man.

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Speaker 4: Because it can be confused. And when you say that

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Speaker 4: Jesus was fully God and fully man, if you mean

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Speaker 4: by that that that one person was absolutely totally God

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Speaker 4: and that's all, then you'd be denying as in humanity.

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Speaker 4: Or if you say it was fully man, then there's

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Speaker 4: no room for his deity. That's why we like to

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Speaker 4: say vera homo vera is truly God, truly man.

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Speaker 3: That's what I meant that's what I mean oxygen? Why John,

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Speaker 3: Johnny Mack.

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Speaker 4: Do you always make me to define what you meant?

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Speaker 3: Both don't argue too much with the guy with the

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Speaker 3: oxygen and they're both in heaven.

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Speaker 2: Now that It's funny because John MacArthur was like the

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Speaker 2: like the elder to so many, but he was he

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Speaker 2: was the under shepherd to a guy like r.

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Speaker 1: C Oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was above him.

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Speaker 2: So it was funny to see them interact because you

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Speaker 2: don't usually see John MacArthur talk to like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and John Piper does that, does that too. He

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Speaker 1: would put MacArthur in his place, and Sproll of course

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Speaker 1: would always put in his place. But it was it

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Speaker 1: was a beautiful thing watching it, and I got to

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Speaker 1: see some of those panels. Not an RC, but but

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Speaker 1: I saw Piper put MacArthur in his place, like John,

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Speaker 1: I think that's just wrong. I do think that's unhelpful

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Speaker 1: to say something like that, and and MacArthur goes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe you're right, but no one would say that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Seeing Piper and MacArthur interact like that was really cool

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Speaker 2: because they both love Christ and they both agree on

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Speaker 2: the main things. And then they show they model disagreements

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Speaker 2: on other things well and taking criticism.

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Speaker 1: Well, m do we have time to have some questions? Sure,

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Speaker 1: some heavy topics today, heavy topics today on the but

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Speaker 1: maybe we have some wider questions. We'll see, No, somehow,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we wouldn't know. Okay, if you want

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Speaker 1: to email us email podcast at grangersmith dot com. Happy

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Speaker 1: to answer your questions. And that also reminds me that

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Speaker 1: we're going to take this podcast live. Yes, give me

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Speaker 1: announcing some dates coming up.

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Speaker 3: We were hoping to announce at least a date or two,

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Speaker 3: or maybe kind of give some ideas of cities on

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Speaker 3: this episode. It's just a little too premature to say

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Speaker 3: anything right this second, but know that we are working

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Speaker 3: and we're almost there to be able to announce them. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so looking forward to that in the coming weeks.

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Speaker 4: Great.

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Speaker 1: Well, the first question comes and it says from anonymous.

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Speaker 1: It says, hey, Grangeur, if you share this, please keep

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Speaker 1: me anonymous. I'm in my mid twenties. I grew up

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Speaker 1: in church, but over the past year and a half

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Speaker 1: my relationship with Christ has really changed. Honestly, I barely

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Speaker 1: feel a desire to connect with God anymore. I used

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Speaker 1: to be open about my faith, but now I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure anyone would even know I'm a Christian. I recently

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Speaker 1: heard vote Backham's sermon about the Older Brother, and I

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Speaker 1: saw myself in that story, quick to judge others, but

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Speaker 1: blind and my own issues. Sometimes I even wonder why

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Speaker 1: I don't have what others do, even though I have

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Speaker 1: done all the right things. Quote. I know I need Jesus,

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Speaker 1: but part of me wants to keep him at a distance.

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Speaker 1: My heart feels hard, and I'm not sure how to

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Speaker 1: change that. Sometimes I worry I'm too far gone, or

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Speaker 1: that I've committed the unforgivable sin just by not wanting

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Speaker 1: to talk to God. Is it possible for someone like

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Speaker 1: me to be saved even when my heart feels this way?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Yeah, it's a good question, and fortunate

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Speaker 1: for Anonymous, unfortunate for us all. It's actually very very common.

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Speaker 1: It's a very very common thing. And I've heard this

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Speaker 1: so many times in person with someone that I'm fairly sure,

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Speaker 1: even though it's impossible, No, but I'm fairly sure that Anonymous,

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Speaker 1: you don't have any kind of daily reading at all. Now,

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Speaker 1: even if you were reading your Bible daily with some

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Speaker 1: kind of devotional reading. And I'm not talking about through

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Speaker 1: your church, or through your small group, or through your

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about you and the Lord and a plan.

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Speaker 1: Like Parker said, his plan right now is reading Romans

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Speaker 1: twelve over and over and over. We all we would

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Speaker 1: all have our specific plans, but that's that's your time.

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Speaker 1: So Parker's being nourished right now by Romans twelve. I

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Speaker 1: would I would imagine you are not in any kind

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Speaker 1: of routine like that. And because I've heard this so

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Speaker 1: many times, I would imagine if I asked you, you would say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing, Like that's a problem. Right now, I'm

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Speaker 1: not really reading anything and I want to and I

770
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Speaker 1: need to. I know I should, but I've just been

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Speaker 1: busy with work and the kids have sports right now,

772
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Speaker 1: and my boss is it's just a season right now,

773
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Speaker 1: and I've gotten away from reading. I actually don't read

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Speaker 1: anything that's typically what I hear. However, regardless of your reading,

775
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Speaker 1: we need to know as Christians that we go through

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Speaker 1: these seasons of I actually did a word of exhortation

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Speaker 1: at Amaeus about being numb. We go through seasons of

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Speaker 1: numbness where sometimes we feel like we don't care, we

779
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Speaker 1: feel far from God, we feel like he's not listening,

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Speaker 1: so we might as well not pray, Or when we pray,

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Speaker 1: we feel like we don't have anything to say, or

782
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Speaker 1: we feel like we're disconnected from the word. We read

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Speaker 1: it and it just feels stagnant and unmoving to us

784
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Speaker 1: and more of a chure. These are seasons we go through,

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Speaker 1: and like anything in life, the seasons come in waves.

786
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Speaker 1: I think there's such a connection in waves with almost

787
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Speaker 1: all of our life. Our hearing comes in audio waves,

788
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Speaker 1: we see in waves. Our emotions really flow in waves,

789
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Speaker 1: and grief comes in waves. Love, affection for our wives

790
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Speaker 1: comes in waves. Excitement for a God's word comes in waves,

791
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Speaker 1: and we could recognize we're on the crest and then

792
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Speaker 1: we feel like everything's great, but it never stays there.

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Speaker 1: It goes back into a trough, and then the trough

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Speaker 1: feels horrible, but it never stays there, and it goes

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Speaker 1: and it moves back up, and most of our life

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Speaker 1: is kind of spent in between traveling. But we see

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Speaker 1: this in the Psalms, which is really important to see

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Speaker 1: the Psalmist walking through these feelings. And although these are feelings,

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Speaker 1: this is we are the canoe outside the island. God

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Speaker 1: is unmovable. He stays the same. He's always there, He's

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Speaker 1: always he always is who he is. And we're the

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Speaker 1: ones that kind of flow at the tie, moves in

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Speaker 1: and out, our feelings change. So we should all know

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Speaker 1: that as Christians we are that just happens. We are

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Speaker 1: the tide. God is the island. We move in and out.

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Speaker 1: He stays the same. But during those seasons of moving out,

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Speaker 1: we have to continue to ground ourselves by a good

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Speaker 1: routine of prayer and meditation and reading and fellowship in

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Speaker 1: a local church. We have to do that even though

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Speaker 1: sometimes we might feel like we're just showing up and

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Speaker 1: mindlessly to church. We might feel like we're just reading

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Speaker 1: a blank page. We might feel like we're praying to nobody.

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Speaker 1: We might feel like we're fellowshipping and not contributing. They're

814
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Speaker 1: doing They're doing all the contributing. But that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: what we do. We're faithful in the little things, and

816
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Speaker 1: faithfulness in the little things ends up paying off and

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Speaker 1: we end up back on the crest. And we see

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Speaker 1: this play it out in the songs. So I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking a lot and I should let you guys talk,

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Speaker 1: but but I feel like probably Anonymous is in a

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Speaker 1: season where he's not reading at all. That's typically what

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Speaker 1: I would find. And that leads to that is the

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Speaker 1: danger of being numb, because then you could actually not

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Speaker 1: be back on the crest. You could actually continue out

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Speaker 1: to see and the tide takes you further from the

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Speaker 1: island and you could you could end up in a

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Speaker 1: very very dangerous spot of drifting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the same thing you just said. I

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Speaker 3: read them two different ways. I read them for context

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Speaker 3: of where we're going in this in this podcast when

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Speaker 3: I'm sorting through these, but then just listening to you

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Speaker 3: read it back to me as like somebody you know,

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Speaker 3: reading the email again for the first time, that that's

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Speaker 3: happening to you. You're not refilling that tank at all.

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Speaker 3: It's being it's going out, but it's never coming back in.

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Speaker 3: And that's a daily I mean, you don't just drive

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Speaker 3: your car and never go get gas. You have to

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Speaker 3: go get gas or you're just going to be stranded

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Speaker 3: on the side of the road feeling empty and doing nothing.

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean it says and that's why

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, you know, knock and I'll answer,

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Speaker 3: ask and I'll get You know, is to not knock once,

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Speaker 3: but to knock almost to annoy, because you will answer

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Speaker 3: the door to somebody who continues knocking, continue, go back

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Speaker 3: down and continue asking. And then another thing too, I

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Speaker 3: think I've felt this too, is that you you feel

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Speaker 3: you feel like God has pulled away. And I kind

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Speaker 3: of saw it some as like like a mother and

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Speaker 3: a kid for so long, how many times as a

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Speaker 3: parent do we hold maybe David is that you're walking

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Speaker 3: with your hands, his hands around your fingers, But is

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Speaker 3: he going to learn to walk? Not like that. It's

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Speaker 3: only when you do that and you let go, and

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Speaker 3: then you see if they can walk, and then they

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Speaker 3: learn to walk. Always there to catch, always there to

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Speaker 3: still in your presence. But you know, I feel like

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Speaker 3: God pours into us and trains us and then goes, okay,

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Speaker 3: let's go. And then it's not a it's not a

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Speaker 3: distance as in I'm done with you, it's a let's

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Speaker 3: let's see if you can build up that going through

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Speaker 3: Going through trials builds builds, faith, builds, per persistence. You

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Speaker 3: know in your life that it makes you stronger as

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Speaker 3: you go through those and I kind of see when

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Speaker 3: you feel God pull away, it's seeing him letting you

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Speaker 3: kind of take over what he's been teaching and pouring

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Speaker 3: into you for a while and then comes back, you know,

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Speaker 3: and not that he leaves you, but he it's kind

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Speaker 3: of like that mother or a parent kid relationship. I

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Speaker 3: see that a lot of in that way. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if that made sense in my mind totally. That's

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Speaker 3: where I kind of see it with with anonymous here, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Lot's been said. I don't know if I have anything

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Speaker 2: to add. The boring thing that no one wants to

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Speaker 2: hear is read your Bible, you said, right, you know.

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Speaker 2: And this episode was started with MacArthur. And one of

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Speaker 2: the things that he always said that I always remember

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Speaker 2: when people come to him in seasons of dryness or depression,

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Speaker 2: is he does this three point method where he says,

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Speaker 2: he said ten minutes. I usually tell people, if you're

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Speaker 2: not reading at all, just even five read for five minutes,

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Speaker 2: think about it, or meditate on it for five minutes,

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Speaker 2: and then pray about it for five minutes, and then

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Speaker 2: you could slowly increase that to ten or twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: But really just reading the word, thinking about what you

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Speaker 2: read and then praying, God help me. And like ant

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Speaker 2: Man said, knocking the door will be open. That's not

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Speaker 2: like up for debate. Draw near to God and he

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Speaker 2: will draw near to you. And so you ask, I

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Speaker 2: feel distant from God. How do we draw near to

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Speaker 2: God practically well through his word? Have to read his word?

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Speaker 2: How are we supposed to know who he is or

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Speaker 2: what we're supposed to do or get help from him

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Speaker 2: if we're not reading, if we're not asking him for help.

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Speaker 2: And just like a good gift, good good father gives

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Speaker 2: gifts to his children. So God says, ask and will

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Speaker 2: be given. Jesus says, ask anything in my name according

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Speaker 2: to the Father's will, and it will be given to you.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, don't go by your feelings, go according to

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Speaker 2: his word. If you draw near to him, he will

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Speaker 2: draw near to you.

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Speaker 1: In the beginning was the Word, and the word was

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Speaker 1: with God, and the word was God. He was in

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Speaker 1: the beginning with God. All things were made through him,

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Speaker 1: and without him was not anything made. That was made

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Speaker 1: In him was life, and the life was the light

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Speaker 1: of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the

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Speaker 1: darkness has not overcome it. And then verse fourteen and

908
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Speaker 1: the word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we

909
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Speaker 1: have seen his glory. Glory is of the only Son,

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Speaker 1: from the Father, full of grace and truth. This is

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Speaker 1: what part's talking about it. How do you get close

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Speaker 1: to God? He read his word? Why? Because the word

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Speaker 1: is God. The word was God, and the word continues

914
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Speaker 1: to be God, and the word became flesh. That's how.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you brought up something too. It's like life

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Speaker 3: gets busy. It's weird how life never gets too busy

917
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Speaker 3: for TikTok or too busy for that show that you

918
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Speaker 3: have DDR like it just and I'm I'm only pointing

919
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: fingers at myself. I do this all the times. Like man,

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Speaker 3: I missed it today, I didn't do my whatever reason

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Speaker 3: I didn't do it this morning. But I do remember

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Speaker 3: that TikTok I sent my wife. It's like what I

923
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Speaker 3: had time for that, but I didn't have time to

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Speaker 3: read the word. You have time such a priorities.

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Speaker 1: I've got a story about this. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: share it on this podcast, but it's that one from

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Speaker 1: the from the back half of that mission Tripleneon and

928
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Speaker 1: I took Okay, I gotta tell you that story on

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Speaker 1: another podcast, but it relates to this. Another thing you said, Parker,

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Speaker 1: that that MacArthur advocated for was the five five five. Well,

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Speaker 1: the praying. I think it's very important to talk about

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Speaker 1: what he meant by praying, because it's not it's not

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Speaker 1: read the passage, meditate on the passage and then pray

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Speaker 1: about something. It's pray the passage. Yeah, pray from the passage.

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Speaker 1: So you know, like, what's an example. You could do

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Speaker 1: the whole Bible like this. But what I just said

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Speaker 1: was the beginning of the Gospel of John. So in

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Speaker 1: the beginning was the Word, the words with God. The

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Speaker 1: Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.

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Speaker 1: All things were made through him. Without him, was not

941
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Speaker 1: anything made that was made. And him was life. And

942
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: the life was the light of men, the light that

943
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Speaker 1: shines in the darkness. And the darkness ever has not

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Speaker 1: overcome it. Lord, you are the light. You are the Word.

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Speaker 1: Darkness has not overcome you. Lord. Keep me out of

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Speaker 1: the darkness. Lord, keep me in that light. Lord, you

947
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Speaker 1: are the Word. Keep me in your word. Help me

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Speaker 1: to know you by knowing your word. Help me to

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Speaker 1: know that you made all things, and all things were

950
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Speaker 1: made through you, and without you, nothing was made. Lord.

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Speaker 1: Let me let that truth resonate in my heart. Help

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Speaker 1: me to know Lord, that you are Life's That's that's

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Speaker 1: praying a passage. So everything I just said in that

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Speaker 1: prayer was a perfect prayer. It was a perfect prayer.

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Speaker 1: People say, I don't know how to pray. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what to pray. I don't have the words if

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Speaker 1: you pray that, Yep, you just prayed a perfect prayer.

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Speaker 1: Not because I'm perfect, but because the word is. And

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Speaker 1: I could pray that God's words back to him and

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Speaker 1: that will. That's how you rejuvenated numbness. That's how you

961
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Speaker 1: recultivate this, all these things where I wonder, I don't

962
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Speaker 1: don't I don't. I feel like I'm drifting and I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if I'm even saved. I grew up, and

964
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Speaker 1: over the past year my relationship has changed. I feel

965
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Speaker 1: a desired. I barely feel a desire. You don't know

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Speaker 1: how you know how to do? You want to know

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Speaker 1: how to cultivate that. You want to regrow that desire.

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Speaker 1: Pray like that. Read the passage, Meditate the passage, Pray

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Speaker 1: the passage again again, repeat daily. You will cultivate that

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Speaker 1: that soil back, that desire will come back.

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Speaker 2: Good resource on that is a book called Praying Bible.

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Speaker 2: You just described the book basically with what you just said,

973
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Speaker 2: but that helped me a lot. It's called Praying the Bible.

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Speaker 2: It's just a simple way to pray through scripture, honestly

975
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Speaker 2: and authentically with sincerity.

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Speaker 1: Talking about Don Whitney. Yeah yeah, yeah, great, great stuff. Cool.

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Speaker 3: I guess it.

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Speaker 1: Next episode I'll reveal something more of that story. In fact,

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Speaker 1: please do. Maybe I'll bring Lennon on there. Oh yeah

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Speaker 1: and talk about that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you should go forget. Uh there is a new

982
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Speaker 3: YouTube channel, so maybe you're watching this on that channel.

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Speaker 3: If you're not, go check it out because we put

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Speaker 3: an other store we're going to we have some stuff there.

985
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Speaker 3: Now we'll have more stuff that we'll be able to

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Speaker 3: do on that channel. Grainger Smith podcast.

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Speaker 1: On YouTube and the Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Grainger Smith Pod.

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Speaker 1: Grainger Smith Pod. Have you posted any of the clips

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Speaker 1: that you've texted me? No, I haven't heard them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we'll have a budget.

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Speaker 1: We you know.

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Speaker 3: Good feedback on on Dylan Chase's Spoken Word though.

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Speaker 1: Did you listen to that one? It's great Dylan Chase podcast.

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Speaker 2: Not yet, it's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the dude wraps in Japanese. Thank this is so fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, all right, see you guys.

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Speaker 1: Ye ye, thank you so much for hanging out with

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