1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In the case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm not broke, you know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: it's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: we go, absolutely money making Conversations Rashan McDonald going on 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: two years. Uh, and we've been making a difference. We've 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: been growing about the syndicate and a hundred markets with 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: money Making Conversations. We're hot on a podcast Donal Loads 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: Serious XHIL Channel one forty two. And the guests that 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: are come on my show or people I know, people 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: are consider friends, people I don't know. They come on 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: my show and I go, wow, we we must be 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: making a difference. My next guest, I usually give a 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: lot of credits about how good we're doing and what 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: we're adding all these things, but my next guest Um 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: has been affected my life for over twenty six years. 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: Um say twenty six years, because twenty team marks his 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: twenty six year music. I remember when he released a 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: single call While We Sing, that changed the landscape of 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: gospel music. His little story about that, I remember Steve harveing, 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: I were so a lot of concert in Houston, Texas 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: is at the music hall see see the four thousand 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: and I played two songs. Steve said, why do you 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: playing music start the show? I played, Uh, this song 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: called While We Sing? See so you playing gospel music 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: before we start a comedy show? As I dude, I 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: just I gotta play this song. This is my song. 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: This song had affected me in a way that opened 33 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: my eyes because I was I was in transition with 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: my life and to hear this music um from this 35 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: young man out of the four worth of Dallas area, 36 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: just changed the landscape. His album remained at number one 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: on Billboard Top Gospel for four to two weeks. He 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: was the first Gospel of Music artists an album to 39 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: sell over one million units. He's a Gospel of musician, songwriter, 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: choir director, and arthur. He's known for leading urban contemporary 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: gospel choirs such as The Family, God's Property and One 42 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Nation Crew, and it's won multiple awards, including fourteen Grammy Awards. 43 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: Variety dubbed him as the reigning king of urban gospel. 44 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: Please welcome to money making conversations, my man, Kurt Franklin. 45 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: What's going on? Family? You know? The thing that I 46 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: like about you is that I figured like I love 47 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: because I've been able to watch you grow as a husband, 48 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: a friend, uh, uh, an ambassador, UH, spokesperson. I've seen 49 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: you uh because it sees a lot of people don't 50 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: know that UH with Steve and I. Steve is the 51 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: host celebration of Gospel and b T I was writing 52 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: produce it. So for thirteen years I got that. I 53 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: got the joy watching Kurt Franklin the formal stage. Wow wow. 54 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: And in that thirteen years because that that show helped 55 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: transform the landscape of gospel music. At Steve Harvey, which 56 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: who wasn't wasn't a typical guy to be associated with gospel, 57 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: so he brought an audience that wouldn't normally come to gospel. 58 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: And then you guys did your theme from a uh. 59 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: It was like it was like the Grammys version of 60 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: UH or BT Awards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, yeah, man. 61 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: And you know, if it was transformed, if it changed 62 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: the trajectory of the genre, because what it did is 63 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: that they gave a visual introduction to a lot of 64 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: the people that uh, a lot of people in mainstream 65 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: may have just heard the music, but they didn't really 66 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: know who the people were. And so to be able 67 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: to now have a platform where people can see who 68 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: these people are and can be connected to what is 69 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: that they're doing at a deeper level, that's a very 70 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: powerful thing. And so Celebration of Gospel was very transformative, 71 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: and that you were transformative, and that Steve was transformative 72 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: and at it. So you know, those those were the 73 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: beginnings foundations of a revolution that kind of happened within 74 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: the genre. But we can say that about Celebration of Gospel, 75 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: but you started it way back then with why we 76 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: sing that money? How did how did that telling the truth? 77 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: Now tell the truth? Because you know, you know, Irban 78 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: Irban music was like, you know, you had Osley Brothers 79 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: O Jays, and then then they started playing your song 80 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: and they started playing on a regular basis on these 81 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: hot R and B station. Your song wasn't regulated to 82 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: just Sunday music. Why do you think what's it timing? 83 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: Or was it just the words of that song? You know? 84 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: If I can be very candid and and and I 85 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: know there's no human science that can regulate this statement 86 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: or can you know, say, to try to prove uh, 87 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: this type of theory. This is a theory that is 88 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: seen with invisible eye, and uh, and I trusted with 89 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: invisible hand. I believe that it was just God's grace, 90 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: you know. And and I know it's hard to quantify 91 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: that in in a platform that is all about returns 92 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: and dividends and so when they were not able to 93 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: always do that when we talk about the supernatural. But 94 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: I still believe in it, and I believe that there's 95 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: been a foundation of my life to think about it. Bro, 96 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: you're talking about somebody that does gospel music, have been 97 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: doing it for twenty six years? How I've been doing it? 98 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: And I can't say. You know, people out said that 99 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: the dope singers, you know, and I am learning around 100 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: bounce around on stage, and you know that ain't number 101 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: just you know, got as amazing grace because they don't 102 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: make no sin. It makes sense. It makes sense because 103 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: you make me, you make me emotional, you make me 104 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: uh feel good, you make me you inspire me with 105 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: your music. You make me uh step back and take 106 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: hold of what's happening in my life with your music. Um, 107 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: just an amazing combination of styles. Uh. I've asked him 108 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: to appear on the TV shows like Sister Sister with me, 109 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: so I asked, I asked him go on tour with 110 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: me with Steve Harvey, which was unprecedented, and uh, because 111 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: that's his brand and there was Steve Harvey's brand. And 112 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: then uh, I asked him to open up the Neighborhood 113 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: Awards in Las Vegas with me and he never said no, 114 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: yes sir, yes sir, And I never will never will 115 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: you know? Because because I remember I thinking, I went 116 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: to Kirk. I said, Kirk, I said, could you could 117 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: you do the Neighborhood Awards? A lot of people to 118 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: Neighborhood Awards was an awards Solder Stephen how I did 119 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas for sixteen years, which sold a lot 120 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: everywhere to recognized that the stars in our community. It's 121 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: an amazing uh production of quality and sixteen years, seven 122 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: or sixteen years. And I said, I said, Kirk, could 123 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: you could you open up with melodies from heaven. He said, 124 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: melodies from heaven. I said, man, melodies from heaven. Rained 125 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: down on me, run down on me, take me in 126 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: your arms and hold me close. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah wow. 127 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: So man, I'm just very grateful for those moments. So 128 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: those are really life subsiding moments for my career. Man. 129 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm just very glad to be, you know, 130 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: still around and you know, even doing it with a 131 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: new music now. So it's really a blessing. We know 132 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: it's a blessing because when he says the word because 133 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: he said family when he said my name I'm from 134 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: and uh, what's our family? And he used that when 135 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: he says that, because when we used to do the 136 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: celebration of Gospel, you, Steve and I we've been our 137 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: trailer and then Kurt come on, knock on the door, 138 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: he come on in. He said, wasn't a family, it 139 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: was it was like talking to a younger brother because 140 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: he's younger than me. And Steven telling Steve too, and 141 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: he said, I got some advice something and were looking 142 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: at him, you know, because because it's like it's like 143 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: it's like walking into a church, you know, because we were. 144 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: We were very respectful of the environment that we were 145 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: walking into. When you went into the gospel arena, that's 146 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: not our arena. We're performers, were entertainers, and guess what 147 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: we cussed and so and so when we walked in there, 148 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: we had to remember that. And so when he would 149 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: come into our trailer, it all put up, the calls 150 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: put up there with that Kurt coming in. Kurt, y'all 151 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: stop it, when y'all stop it, stop it? And and 152 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: and and he would ask for advice. And I remember 153 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: when he when they when they when they had the 154 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to put together the the Tool with him, Marvin 155 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: Stath and uh who's there? Uh yeah, with with Oh 156 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: my god, that was a great tour they put together. 157 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: You know, he came in out trailer talking about that, 158 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: what do you think? What do you think about this songs? 159 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: He would songs that he would hit song. He asked us, 160 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: what do you think about this song? What do you 161 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: think about this song? And Steve had he for music. 162 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: And he knew that Steve had an ear from music. 163 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: I give him that he could hear a song and 164 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: he knew words and and Kirk respected that. But what 165 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: we respected most was that he is just a regular guy. 166 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: And I don't think I don't think that. I say 167 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: that and all honestly because being in the music with 168 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: twenty few years, there's so many trends and so many 169 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: up his downs, and so many people say your music, 170 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: your genre is done, you won't make it. And he's 171 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: always now I wouldn't even say the word evolved. He's 172 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: just performed. He's just been Kurt Franklin. And that's a 173 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: special quality. Brother. Thank you, that's very humbling that that 174 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: that is her humbling coming from you. And and I'm 175 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: just glad to be here on the show and letting 176 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: people know that, you know, I'm still trying to do it, 177 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: still trying to make that difference, and uh, you know, 178 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: I'm still doing it even with the new music You 179 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: Loan Live Love album and Love Theory, the new single, 180 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm just just very thankful that very thankful. 181 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: Sunday's Best. Sunday Best comes back on BT June and 182 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: the host is the one and only Kurk frank They 183 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: asked you to come back. Why did you come back 184 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 1: and host Sunday Best? Well, you know, I've been in 185 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: talks with them over the last year year, so you know, 186 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: it's it was definitely a a you know, this conversation 187 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: that was ongoing for for about the last year or so. 188 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: You know, like like I never lost contact with with BT. 189 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: You know, they they were going through their transitions. You know, 190 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: there was something that they went through as a company, 191 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: and so you know, um, you know, sometimes you gotta 192 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: have the right people in the room. Of course that 193 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: you know that very well. You know that you can 194 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: have the right idea but the wrong people in the room, 195 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, or you're gonna have the right people in 196 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: the room and have the wrong idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 197 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: So it kind of goes both ways. And so uh, 198 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, God and his sovereign timing you know, made 199 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: it where you know, it just worked out at the 200 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: right time. And so yeah, new new production, new production 201 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: company knew uh level that I think that people are 202 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: going to be very very very excited about. I think 203 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: people are going to be extremely sad about this new season. Okay, 204 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: they have judges on the show. Are the judges knew 205 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: or who are the judges this year? Um, the new 206 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: judges are gonna be Kelly Price, the incredible Kelly Price 207 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: worka Campbell and now this young buck named Jonathan McReynolds 208 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: who's a new face in dust of music and he's 209 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: a beast. I love that. I love that. I love 210 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: that line up. But first of all, I love the 211 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: ft you got Kelly Price because it brings again, like 212 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: what Steve, it brings up another audience to you. You 213 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: know you're not you're not in the pocket of the 214 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: same voice. That's hot. That's pretty hot. Now your tour now, 215 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: you don't go ahead now, your tour will long live 216 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: now that the tours are presently on tour right now, 217 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: and they started as they started July level. That's the 218 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: start day from the tour level. Man, it's gonna be 219 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: an incredible tour man. And I'm and I'm giving people 220 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: all the music. I'm giving them the old music music. 221 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: So when they come, they're gonna get the s Kurl 222 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin, They're gonna get the pros colors, Kirk Franklin, 223 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: they get not Kirk Franklin. And then they're gonna get 224 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: the Kirk. They got his teeth thinks with a visilne 225 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin. So so I can do I smile, So 226 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be all see what are you 227 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: talking about? You need to go Google. I smiled the 228 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: video and that's what you're talking about right there. I 229 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: smile because that's that That video was important for us 230 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: because you know, he came to us and said, I'm 231 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: doing this video with Shaun shooting in the Atlanta Man 232 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: and and we were running ideas because a lot of 233 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: things about the relationship that I have with Kirker's that 234 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: we would do celebration of gospel and then we go 235 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: all gonn either Cape Mandolini late at night, by twelve 236 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: thirty one o'clock in the morning. But Kurt, you know 237 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm for you. You will film festival telling whatever you 238 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: want to do. Just contact with Sean McDonald. I'll be 239 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: there to help you. You're uh. This was a great 240 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: episode for me, the interview. You be a part of 241 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: money making conversations because they talked about our history. Our 242 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: relationship is for real. So whatever you want to expand, 243 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: allow me to be a part of it. Okay, Bro, 244 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: Thank you man, I love you, Bro. Thank you. That's 245 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: Kurt Franklin. Everybody, how many of us have looked at 246 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: our finances and scream, how can we make this much 247 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: and still have so much debt. 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I'm not saying if you 272 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: listen to my show, I'm gonna give you the right 273 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: message to get there. But i will tell you this, 274 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: without effort, you will get nowhere, and without effort and planning, 275 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: you will fail. You have to plan your success. You 276 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: have to have effort to create your success. And more importantly, 277 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: you have to have a relationships to support you in 278 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: your path to success, because in your path to success, 279 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: you will fail. You will fall, and if you don't 280 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: have any support groups around you when you fall, then 281 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: your failure will be a hard fall. And a lot 282 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: of people can't get up from that because they failed 283 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: to establish relationships efforts there. They've been so arrogant that 284 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't leave that the train that they 285 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: was on could fall apart where it can't fall apart. 286 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: And I've seen it many times. I've experienced it myself, 287 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: and along the way, I've learned from my mistakes. And 288 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: when I learned from my mistakes I share with others. 289 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: That is what money making conversations is about. Is about 290 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: sharing opportunities, It's about sharing information. Is about letting people 291 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: know that you too can be great. You don't have 292 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: to dream. You don't have to walk around the corner 293 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: and pray about it all day long, because even with prayer, 294 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: you gotta have effort. In with faith, you gotta have effort. 295 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: Even with the belief that somebody told you were very special, 296 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: you gotta have effort. My next guest has a fash 297 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: in two for faith, family, and fitness, and he tries 298 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: to incorporate all three aspects in his daily work as well. 299 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: He's a two time Emmy nominated actor, writer and producer. 300 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: Helen from the windy city of Chicago, one of my 301 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: favorite cities during the summer. Let y'all know, I lived 302 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: in Chicago four years. I have clothes and I bought 303 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: up that I cannot wear anywhere else because I was 304 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: up there in February March cold days. He is also 305 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: the spokesperson for the Black College Expo, which provides numerous 306 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: scholarships for students throughout the year. Please work with them 307 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: Moneymaking Conversations. My man cal Mitchell. Hello, Kale. I'm gonna 308 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: way back to Steve Harvey sitcom, sitcom that way back. 309 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: What I'm saying there was only show doing the guests appearance. 310 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: Him and his boy King was on the show doing 311 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: guest appear and every thing I remember about him man 312 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: first of all polite. Secondly, uh, just naturally gifted. And 313 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: we was on the sideline just naturally funny. It's just 314 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: and I always felt that he he knew he was talented, 315 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: but didn't know how to wrap all you know, I said, 316 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: wrap your arms around all that talent and and and 317 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: I always knew that that that if he ever figures 318 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: it out, which he has figured out throughout this, you 319 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: don't have a critics long not figured it out. But 320 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: when you look at him as a as a talent, 321 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: and and and and the and the journey is taken. 322 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: And seeing it when I first met him on Steve Show, 323 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: and and and and watching the growth of him, Well, 324 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: we're uh the journey and we're gonna talk about the 325 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: good Burger. We'll talk about everything, brother, Okay, because that 326 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: pop up he's a funny thing about the I'm getting 327 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: out a lot. Welcome to my making conversation. My man, 328 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: cal Mitchell, Hey, thank you for having me. Oh man, 329 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here. Well, you know, I'm excited joking. 330 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: I'm about to jump full five questions to get the 331 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: Good Burger and uh because I'll be because I'm going 332 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: to Jamaica and when i come back from Jamaica, I'll 333 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: be at l A July seven. Okay, Now the Good 334 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: Burger pop up July tenth, right, yes it is, okay, 335 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: tell me about the Good Burger, which is a takeoff 336 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: of the movie Good Burger. Correct. Yeah, man, So with 337 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: this it was so many people Sean McDonald, you know, 338 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: wherever I go listen to listen to Money Make, I'm 339 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: about all the time exposing into me and my wife. 340 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: We're talking about me. We need to open up up 341 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: dream so we would have a lot of people don't 342 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: know have to translates, translate the time to do it. 343 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you listen to my show. I'm gonna 344 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: give you the right message. I will tell you that 345 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: had opened up the planning and the amazing we wanted 346 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: to go check this out. The relationship there and Derek Verry, 347 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: amazing guy. And I'm like the partner up and we 348 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: talked about you before. We're gonna have there man and 349 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: so uh man, we can from the pop up ready 350 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: or to have their live chance, it'd be there. They've 351 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: been so terric train that they yeah, we can't take it. 352 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: Absolutely many times. I'm experienced for self. I'm learned from 353 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: my mistakes and gonna learned from my I share you 354 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: know care, I said you a lot of ten because 355 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stand in a lot that line gonna 356 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: be formations. I'm not you too. You got act there. 357 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: You don't go back back to knocking on the background. 358 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: In fact, the old guy back there thought, body, you 359 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: know you can every shot? Yeah, bring him on in there, somebody. 360 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that menu. Come okay, let's talk about 361 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: that men. Let's just about faith. Two things. I love 362 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: pizzas and you try to in corporate free. I love 363 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: Hamburg daily all my is two times Hamburg have French 364 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: front due to hell and wink out the shop one 365 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: of my favorite cities. Doing the size with your bern't 366 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: talk about that menu. All you doing the Chicago that's 367 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: what you kill if you're doing shakes. I have I'm 368 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: an knock some people out like we're doing it like 369 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: I would come through the front wind as I was 370 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: updated februwhere what we're doing do stake the cool thing? 371 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: That was also the portions like blacks, they were scholars stride. 372 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna have an you got kill. And I 373 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: look at you on social media and glanced about Stagram 374 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: especially media. Didn't come build your brand because where your 375 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: brand promote your break that gets the tops come out here, 376 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be all I remember being him man, so 377 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: tell us about the pack of social media line brand. 378 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: Secondly the thing that naturally get and you came to 379 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: the sideline. He just always say hill talent, but didn't 380 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: know how to wrap off, said wrap your a to 381 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: get better about you and you don't agree with it 382 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: and let people know. Figure immediately figured out about all 383 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: the way those are selling, those are branding hand and 384 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: with me it was like, okay, I need to look 385 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: at what is my brand? And that's where the family 386 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: talking because I was cooking a danger think got landing 387 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: like welcome to my conversation. And I said, okay, well 388 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: what do people see? And when you look at my 389 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: face to what they're seeing, I was like, well, you 390 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: know excoking. I'm about to jep my face all this 391 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: other stuff because I'll be it because I want Jamaica 392 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: when I come back from Jamaica. There is l a 393 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: when when you when you find that, then you can go, okay, 394 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: what can I put with that policy? Right that? What 395 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: other atvenues can I go with? You don't coming out 396 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: movie good one? So it's hard. So when you can 397 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: focus on, okay, this is the plan and I'm gonna walking, 398 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: and then as you know, you know, whatever puts you 399 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: on the right plane, you know, the plant black line 400 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: they stopped really really helped all and that's really what 401 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: harded me and helped me to money and always happened good. 402 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: It was very important. You know, you have to have 403 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: that started your face comes into who who worked out 404 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: some people out here, just like the restaurant, I let 405 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: go a lot of people. That word that would happen 406 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: to working with work in my life because I saw 407 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: that had amazing things are happening because it's out I 408 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: need to go to a certain levels and I didn't. 409 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: You raised me your heart in your back front. That's hard. 410 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: That's hard. That's hard. It's very hard. It's very hard 411 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: to me. I'm reminding everybody, okay, all that man can 412 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: restaurant restaurants on every Saturday thirty pm Easter the standard 413 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: time Pacific time. You know if it's that time's simple 414 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: Central times seven. Absolutely and so standing that it's amazing 415 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: when I when I look at the happiness and divorce 416 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking at I went to Instagram, I got the 417 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: burger video and I'm not gonna stands from his last 418 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: post was all that with the front missing characters. You 419 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: really are brand like you said you're not. Really are 420 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: taking advantage your audience. They believe the model of pizza 421 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: and the loving them about your success and your fan 422 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: The whole process is being I love Hamburg, you know, 423 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: difference journey for all the fresh got a half meal, 424 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: you ed journey. You gotta have time. That's your birth. 425 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: So they're talking about that, me and you for all 426 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: you're doing, that's that's a kill. If you're doing I'm 427 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: gonna be standing. I mean, I'm not the people alive 428 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: you're doing. I mean through and what I want is 429 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: that what we do, we're doing social media. I want 430 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: them to thing about the feeling that you know what 431 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: I want them to do. Definitely that's what it's all about, 432 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: you know. And I feel that, uh, he sustained me 433 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 1: all these years, through through everything, you know what I mean. 434 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of things that I learned. And 435 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: that's the cool thing about social media and what you're 436 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: doing too, is to share that. That's why testimonies are 437 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: so important, is to share that wisdom because so many 438 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: people are like banging their heads right now. I've been there, 439 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: like Okay, what's what's my next step? Where can I go? 440 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: What can I do? And And it's funny like now 441 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: when you look back, I go, oh, this happened, so 442 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: this can happen. This happened, so I can learn from that, 443 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: this happened, this fail you happened. But I get it. 444 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: If that didn't happen, I wouldn't be where I'm I'm now. 445 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: So it's like you learned from every part of part 446 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: of your life. I don't. I'm not upset in anything 447 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: that I learned learned from You can't be You're You're special, 448 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: You're UH. Your journey and UH and your continued success. 449 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: It's tied to the fact that you believe in yourself 450 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: and you have you made a tough decision to say, 451 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: these are the people I believe support my values, that 452 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: will get up when I get up, that will feel 453 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: my pain, will will not have a discerning voice when 454 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: I want to make something that causes effort. You know, 455 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: if you have to put out the effort, you have 456 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: to do something different because a lot of people get 457 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: a little patterned. Where I've been doing. It's been working 458 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: for me, Hola, but it ain't working for me. That's 459 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: the conversation. If it's not working, I wants tell people. 460 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: You can't be the person said at your own party, 461 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: all the liquor gone, you never touched the drop. You 462 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: can't be that person. You can't go to all eat 463 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: buffet and don't eat nothing you got. You gotta participate. 464 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: And that's all you're saying now and call man, Uh, 465 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm supporting you first of all, you know. July tenth, 466 00:25:53,400 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: pop up l A good ba to check out my 467 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: man all that Executive producer to Cal mitchell A brother 468 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: a thirty Specific Eastern seven thirty Central Standard time. I'm 469 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: so proud of you, man. Know that I'll be supporting 470 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: you on social media. Know that I am a fan 471 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: and I love you too. Death Keep it up, brother, 472 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: to brother, thank you so much. Alright, bye bye, y'all. 473 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: How many of us have looked at our finances and scream, 474 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: how can we make this much and still have so 475 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: much debt? 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My next guests founded online 502 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: degree dot Com with a purpose driven mission may hire 503 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: your education more accessible and affordable for everyone. After after 504 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: graduating college with an overwhelming amount of debt, he was 505 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: determined to change how students embark on their college education. 506 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: Online degree dot Com helps anyone save up on their 507 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: college degree for free. Please work with the Money Making Conversations. 508 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: My man Grant Aldrich, Hi, rasha thank you for having me. Well, 509 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: thank you. Where are you calling from this morning or 510 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: this afternoon? Sir, I am in sunny southern California, rights 511 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: nearby Los Angeles? Okay, cool, Well that's the part of 512 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles. They can't get sunny. You're down in 513 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: the desert. A lot of people don't know Los Angeles. 514 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: Later here you're in the desert. My friend, I lived 515 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: there for fifteen years. I know about southern, sunny, southern California. 516 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: But you can look to you to your right, then 517 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: you see mountains that you can skiing. You just drive, 518 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: just drive a little bit. You get to him, get 519 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: you can go to your go to go west and 520 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: get to the beach. That's why people love California. It's 521 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: the beautiful places. So so you so your native stay 522 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: for the weather and complain about Texas. Absolutely, that's stay 523 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: taxes for sure. So, uh, let me ask you this, 524 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: So are you are you a native? Are you just 525 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: living there right now in California? No, I was raised, 526 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: born and raised in California. And I've also then my 527 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: my wife and I split time between Nevada and California. 528 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: And so we we've we just recently had we're about 529 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: to have our third child. Congratulations were you know? Thank 530 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: you very much. And uh, we want to be closer 531 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: to family, so we split time. We're mostly based in Nevada, 532 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: but right now we're in where I'm originally from, in 533 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: the l A area. Right, So Nevada. Las Vegas is 534 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: one of my favorite cities. A you areno guy Las Vegas. Whatever, 535 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, right, and you go with another desert He 536 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: just likes desert. He just likes dessert because the grass 537 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: is just killing them out there in Las Vegas for sure. 538 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: Now now that now, before we get to oldline degree 539 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: dot com, who are you prior to this? Uh? This, 540 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: this brainstorm that that that that that that came out. 541 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: You love college and you would like any other student. 542 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: You know, you got a degree, but bore, it's some 543 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: dead weight doing you. And can I ask you how 544 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: much your debt were you're in at the time when 545 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: you left college? Absolutely? And by the way, ra Sean, 546 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed to begin because when I start talking about myself, 547 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: I feel that around you, I've accomplished so little in 548 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: my life when I read your biot about everything, listened 549 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: to your show that I'm embarrassed to talk about what 550 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: I've done before. But I'll give it a crack. But 551 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: please don't be embarrassed because you because of the fact 552 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: that you know what I've accomplished is what you will accomplish. 553 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: And uh, when you look back on your life because 554 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: of the fact that you're a special human being. And 555 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: I try to bring individuals on my show who are 556 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: making a difference in people's lives, and that's what you 557 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: are and sit on a daily basis. It's a passion 558 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: job that you're doing. It's something they're fortunate for you, 559 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: you can make money off of, and it also has 560 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: changed your life and changes the lots of people every day. 561 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: So when you say you have not done a lot, 562 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: know that what you are doing is affecting a lot. 563 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: What we'll thank you for saying that. I really do 564 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: have a big dream to make college affordable. And yeah, 565 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think I took a pretty typical path, 566 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, graduate high school, went to a four year university, 567 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: got into the workforce, and then only later did I 568 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: realize that, wow, I didn't pay off that debt until 569 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: I was in my late twenties, and it left a 570 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: real mark on me. And I decided, you know, I 571 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: I was lucky in that I've exited. I've been in 572 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: startups with my whole career. I exited two start up 573 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: companies and I was I was around I got to 574 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: I really got to sit and reflect and say, what 575 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: is the next big mission, what what do I want 576 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: to do to make the world a better place and 577 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: to love what I do every day? And I decided 578 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: that I want to help more people get to college 579 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: and not have to deal with all the debt that 580 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: surrounds us. And with that being said, now, the amount 581 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: that you were in debt was how much it was 582 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: probably upwards let me think about this now, probably almost. Yeah, 583 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: that's that's that's what I hear a lot. You know, 584 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: I was watching TV the other day and uh, and 585 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: and that's that's a normal that doesn't that doesn't frighten 586 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: me as far as when I hear it thrown out 587 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: there because you're talking about four year or four year 588 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: institution and uh, you know, a room and board, the lodging, 589 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: all that, you know, from start to finish. That's about right. 590 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: But at the time when you was every year getting 591 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: along wasn't an issue that when you're going there and 592 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: you said it needs amount of money. That's that's the 593 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: part that I think that students don't understand. It's easy 594 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: to get access to this amount of money to pay 595 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: for your education, but you never really told the story 596 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: of the payback, right, Yeah, that's that's the key because 597 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: you're right, you know, college in some sense you will 598 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 1: get the loans to pay for it. They don't. It's 599 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: you're right, it's very accessible in that sense. But the 600 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: key problem is is that people don't understand until it's 601 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: too late that wow, I have to pay this money 602 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: back at some point and the interest has been accruing 603 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: and it is an incredible sum that can prevent you 604 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: from buying your first home or having the flexibility to 605 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: choose the right job that you want to make your 606 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: debt payment. So yeah, it has a it's a it's 607 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 1: a huge effect. Now they're effect that Lisa, I kind 608 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: of mentioned it earlier about online degree dot com. What 609 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: exactly is online degree dot com. So the way that 610 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: we decided to to to solve this problem is we 611 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: have a platform where someone can come on, get started 612 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: in sixty seconds, register and take as many colleges and 613 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: all the courses as they want. And that could be 614 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: that I think where they could earn credit towards their 615 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: degree and unlock instant scholarships and discounts towards universities across 616 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: the country and it's completely for So really, what we've 617 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: done is we've created a free, more accessible, modern alternative 618 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: to the community college. And then it's just where it 619 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: will help everybody take that first step to go back 620 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: to hire us. So, you know, the whole room got 621 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: quiet over here when you say it free. Everybody kind 622 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: of like, you know, stared at me. But I had 623 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: to let you finish your line because you say it free. 624 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: You know, you know how to say free to free 625 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: dramatic calls one, two or three. And because because so, 626 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: because it's the beauty of it is that you know, 627 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: online education has like a skyrocket because what type on 628 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: the process you thought of online education with the Phoenix 629 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: University of Phoenix. You know that all the time University 630 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: of Phoenix. Now every major University of Michigan, University Alabama, 631 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: University of Houston, all schools have an online program. My daughter, 632 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: she's a tennis pro in high school. She's a produ 633 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: so she went to the UH University of Miami, you know, 634 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: high school UH training. So so when you so, you're 635 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: not so you're you're you're getting the audience that's kind 636 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: of comfortable, which is type of educational planning. Correct, You're right, 637 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: there was this misconception that online only meant the for 638 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: profit schools that we've read about the newspapers, But you're right. 639 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: The reality is everybody's moving all of their programs online 640 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: because there's such a huge demand. Technology has enabled it, 641 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: and so that's the future in higher education. The fastest 642 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: growing segment is the online education and every state school, 643 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: private school, everybody's going in that direction because it is 644 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: so convenient for us working adults who you know, we 645 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: don't have time to leave our job to go to 646 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: campus every day. We don't. We don't, we have our 647 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: we've got families, were busy, you know. But the thing 648 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: about it is day when I look at and I 649 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: talked to you about what you're doing, it feels so 650 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: comfortable to be the sell is to individual. It feels 651 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: so comfortable to tell people said, look, you can change 652 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: your life by making this minor adjustment in your schedule. Ultimately, 653 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: I think that we need to have that tough love 654 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: with so many people who are not taking that step. 655 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: And so now you know there's no more excuses. Right. 656 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: I understood why people weren't taking that step when you 657 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: looked at the current cost benefit analysis and process to 658 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: get started. But now we proved all the excuses. You know, 659 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: it could not be easier or more cost effective now 660 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: to take that first step. And the first step is 661 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: what sir, Come on, let's go and take it to 662 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: the finished line. That first step getting started with a 663 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: registering for free with online degree dot com. Uh and 664 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's where the first step and you know 665 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: the other thing that makes us a big difference. So 666 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: we're Shawn back to your experience when you went back 667 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: to community when you're in community college to start with, 668 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: because that's the path that so many people take. Absolutely 669 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: one of the things that in addition to you know 670 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: now that courses can be online, which makes it more accessible. 671 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: One thing you probably remember not getting at that community 672 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: college was the support and guidance that you really needed 673 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: if they say it's there, but unfortunately they never have 674 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: enough resources to help every person to help them craft, 675 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: figure things out, provide support. That is another of the 676 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: key differences is that we provide that kind of supporting 677 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: coaching to help people get to where they need to go. 678 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: And because ultimately the end of day, these are people, 679 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: these are uh, these they need they need that human 680 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: touch and that support. You can't just you know, it's 681 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: a complicated thing. And that's another key differentia that we 682 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: try to provide. Well to tell them about the education, 683 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: I'll tell you something about what you're offering, because usually, uh, 684 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: this the opportunity is being made available to working students 685 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: are adults. Students a lot of adults, students who have families, 686 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: a lot of probably single parent households. And when you 687 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: try to pursue an education outside of the household, it becomes, uh, 688 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 1: it can become very destructive to the overall family environment. 689 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: But when you're at your house and your kids or 690 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: your kids or your children are seeing you make a 691 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: difference in their in your personal life, it also changes 692 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: the atmosphere is home. It makes them want to be 693 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: better in their school. It makes them if Mom's doing better, 694 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: Dad's trying to do better, then I will do better. 695 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: It would create a culture in your house that can 696 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: change the value system when you're within your home on 697 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: a daily basis. So when I look and I look 698 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: at this, and that's why I was happy grant to 699 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: have you on my show because sometimes when us an individual, 700 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: you know you built this. I'm just looking at the 701 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: overall social structure of what your program and your online 702 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: dot com online degree dot com format offers to to students, 703 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: to the middle class, to the lower middle class, to 704 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: the structure, to structure people who can't see uh see 705 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: at the front door because they don't have time to 706 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: get out the front door. They barely try to get 707 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: in the front door because the back door is already shut. 708 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: And so your educational opportunities. I would to become a 709 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: friend of yours, man because, uh, because I just see 710 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities for you to grow what you're 711 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: trying to do. And I would do with everything within 712 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: my power to be able to help you get the 713 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: word out, especially in my community. You know, my community, 714 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: I feel in any community of color needs to understand 715 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: the value of the format that you're offering, because we 716 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: are working, uh more than eight hours a day. We 717 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: are you know, typically on the low end of the 718 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: of the of the payroll opportunities. So so to have 719 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: you on my show talking about it, it's really a 720 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: blessing to me. Hopefully it's a blessing to my audience 721 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: to take advantage of what you're doing. I want to 722 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: support you in so many levels because I was that 723 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: working adult. That's why I had to go to community college. 724 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: I had to drop out of of a four year 725 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: institution because I couldn't afford it. I had to go 726 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: work a four time job. And when I worked a 727 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: four time job, when I left the four tramp job, 728 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: I had to go to a community college. 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There's home over black panther Um. 797 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: Name of the company is maven At California based Harry 798 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 1: Extension Company. Their partners with stylist who service the salesforce 799 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: for their hair extension their clients by please welcome to 800 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. The CEO and founder of Mavin de 801 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: Sean Emira, Hello and thank you for having me. I 802 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Cool. I really do your California and uh 803 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: good your mind? Telling me? What's your educational background, your 804 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: little history before we start talking about Yeah, I was 805 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: born and raised in Oakland, Um. I went to high 806 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: school there. After high school, I went to Hampton University. 807 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: So I'm an alum of HBCU. She's a Hampton grad 808 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: so happy she's cheering in the background, sir, So all right, 809 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah. So I, UM, I got really interested 810 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: in UM. You know, I wanted to travel when I 811 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: got to college, or I've always just sort of wanted to. 812 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: I've been curious about the world. So UM, you know, 813 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: sophomore year I traveled. I went to Japan for for 814 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: six months. I studied abroad there. Ended up doing the 815 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: same thing again the next year in Spain. When I 816 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: after I graduated, I moved to China. UM and then 817 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: and we can get into you know, what I was 818 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: doing over there later. But then education wise, I ended 819 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: up going back to school. I did an NBA at 820 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: Georgia State in Atlanta, UM in between two thousand and 821 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: eight and two thousand and ten. In So, now, when 822 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: you went to those different places, did you, ah, you 823 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: experienced the culture? Did you learn the language? I did. 824 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: I was in China for a year and a half straight, 825 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: and then for the next several years, I would be 826 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: going back in China, back and forth to China, probably 827 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: every every couple two to three months. I was going 828 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: back and forth to China, UM and so I learned 829 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 1: a great deal both Mandarin at the time. Um, you 830 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: know it's it's it's worn off a little bit since then, 831 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: but I still can I stick it. I still can 832 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: get around. Oh good, good devil. This what what you know? 833 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: I always like to explore new opportunities. That's a new 834 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: opportunity from a social and a lifestyle standpoint. What what if? 835 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: What did you learn from that experience? Because you know 836 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: that when we go out and travel, did you are 837 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: an African American male and so there are perceptions about us, 838 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: uh in different parts of the country. I know I've 839 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 1: experienced that. So were there any perceptions that you had 840 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: to overcome you had to deal with in your travels? Um, 841 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: there were definitely definitely a lot of you know, perceptions 842 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 1: that people had or misconceptions. I mean in China at 843 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: the time and I got in two thousand three, Um, 844 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: there was hardly I was. I went to the city 845 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 1: called shen Jen, which is now like a super popping city. Um, 846 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, at the time, it was about four million 847 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: people there. Now I think there's like fifteen million people. 848 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: So just in the past you know, ten years, it's 849 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's grown quite a bit, but there was 850 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: hardly any foreigners there at all, um, let alone had 851 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: they ever seen any any black people, you know. So uh, 852 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: you know, I had students were you know, I taught 853 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: English there for a little while, and students to run 854 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: up to me and try to touch my my skin 855 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 1: and if they're rubbed off, you know, and they called 856 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: me Mr Chaka Lee, you know. Um. And then I 857 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: had people there who just straight up didn't believe that 858 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: I came from America because they're from what they understood 859 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: of the world, and they don't they didn't get a 860 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,280 Speaker 1: lot of they don't get a lot of the media 861 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 1: and the images that everybody else gets America is white 862 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 1: people in America is the land of white people in 863 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: blond hair and blue eyes. Um. And so they just 864 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: didn't even believe that there were black people there, let 865 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: alone all of the intricacies of like, you know, the 866 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: history of African Americans in in America. So um. You know, 867 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 1: people tended to think I was either from you know, 868 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 1: Africa or you know, or or India or something like that. 869 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: And then they had certain you know, they had certain perceptions, um, 870 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: of of those countries, um, which weren't always so good right, 871 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: they think they think America is the land of the white, 872 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: then you you also have to think that that that 873 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 1: there was a backwards view of Africa, you know, very 874 00:47:53,520 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 1: backwards ignorance, slavery, poverty, violence, you know, exactly need to 875 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: be also they're I'm sure they're aware of the slave 876 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: slavery too. So so all those negative things dominated Joe present. 877 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 1: So you are you are a torch bearer there? Um, yeah, 878 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was you know, it definitely 879 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 1: felt very you know, pioneering to be out there. That 880 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 1: was hardly as I said, hardly any other foreigners there was. 881 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: You know, there was about three or four other black 882 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 1: people that I met when I was out there, you know, 883 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: in the city of four million people, and we all 884 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: abandoned together and there was two or three. How did 885 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 1: you find them? Now? Well, you know, there would be 886 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: certain places in the city where only you know, only 887 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: were like foreigners would go to these barns, restaurants or 888 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: whatever we're foreigners would convene so they could you know, 889 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: um and you know, they would just be a random 890 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: black person in there and we were just connect and 891 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,919 Speaker 1: be like, hey, you go, what are you doing here? 892 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: You know? So UM. Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy, 893 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: but it was you know, it ended up being one 894 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: of the most transformative, UM and informative periods of my life. 895 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: You know, I learned a lot about myself. I learned 896 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: a lot about what I was capable of. UM. You know, 897 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: I learned a lot about you know, it put into 898 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: context where I came from the country that I came from, UM, 899 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: and what was going on outside of America, you know, 900 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: and that America wasn't the center of the world UM 901 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: and uh. And I grew tremendously from that, and it 902 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: became you know, China just became sort of the platform 903 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: from which all of my my business and entrepreneurial endeavors 904 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: kind of sprang from relationships there. I made amazing relationships there, 905 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: um you know, and and also learned how to navigate 906 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: UM sourcing products uh. You know, so I went to 907 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: hundreds of factories UM figured out you know, the first 908 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: thing I started importing from China because I just wanted 909 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: to make some money were like sneakers, And so I 910 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: saw they had sneakers out there, and I started buying 911 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 1: them and sending them back home, and through that process 912 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 1: learned all about you know, shipping from from China and 913 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: freight forwarding and customs and tariffs and UH and all that, 914 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: and learn how to negotiate with with the Chinese and 915 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: UM how to find different factories and source different products 916 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 1: and figure out you know quality control and who to 917 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 1: trust who not to trust. UM. It was an incredible 918 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: It was an incredible UM educational experience. You knew the 919 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: language as well. Well. I learned it as I went. 920 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,959 Speaker 1: I'll just just sales for you and can other people 921 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: around the country or is it localized in the open 922 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: in area? So UM. So the hairstylus are we've we've 923 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: over the past five years, we've grown to over fifty 924 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: thou hair stylists all over the country who are just 925 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: of Stylus who are distributing Maven products. We actually this 926 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 1: year just lost a very new and transformative service UM 927 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: leveraging our our stylus network UM that essentially will cut 928 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 1: the cost of getting your hair done are getting hair 929 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: and getting your hair done in half for customers. So 930 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: now you can as a customer, you can come directly 931 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: to Maven. You can buy hair directly from us. You 932 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: can put in your zip code UH, the hand selected 933 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: Maven stylus in your zip code will pop up. You 934 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,879 Speaker 1: can look at their pictures, you can look at their work. Um, 935 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 1: there's stars and reviews. 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