Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast six Gene, Welcome to another
Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. And that's true,
Speaker 1: but we have to do the math on that. And
Speaker 1: I am not a mathematician, as everyone knows, but we
Speaker 1: gotta get to the bottom of that. Dan hands us
Speaker 1: here joined in a real outdoor setting filled with heroes
Speaker 1: about that, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal and a very special appearance.
Speaker 1: Now they're very special because she's so famous, popular, and
Speaker 1: the terms of her talent contract deems that she only
Speaker 1: can work about five days during spring and summer and
Speaker 1: they must be from a bar. Colleen wool what's up everybody?
Speaker 1: What a day? Thanks for coming to my club? All right?
Speaker 1: That the scene for us? Dan, alright, So here we are.
Speaker 1: We are in West Hollywood, California, at Rocko's Who This
Speaker 1: is the heart the heart of how would you put it, Ricky?
Speaker 1: How would you put this? We are in the center
Speaker 1: of Boys Town, which is West Hollywood. We're actually right
Speaker 1: next to a rainbow flag crosswalk and June is Pride months.
Speaker 1: So we're excited to be debuting our Pride episode of
Speaker 1: Around the NFL in person. And we also have another
Speaker 1: special guest. Oh, we do this. We have a lot
Speaker 1: of people here, by the way, we have a bit
Speaker 1: of a celebration here for our road show. UM and
Speaker 1: very excited colleens. Dad and Wolf is here. He's at
Speaker 1: a neighboring table right now. Talking Pride episode was coming
Speaker 1: up just a few days ago. He's like, get me
Speaker 1: on a plane. I'm gonna exactly. Gonza and Connie's uh
Speaker 1: friend Miles, his dad's here. So they're at one table
Speaker 1: and then's sitting in as well on the show, but
Speaker 1: really sitting in just to hang out with us. In fact,
Speaker 1: she didn't even know the Around the NFL podcast was
Speaker 1: taping to about fourteen minutes ago. She thought it was
Speaker 1: the broadcast, which is a vanity project for Erica. Um
Speaker 1: Luckisha Jackson Westling here. So this is so nice. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so great to be here in this part of
Speaker 1: the city. Um, right in the middle and the heart
Speaker 1: of Pride month. Um Erica are wonderful producer but also
Speaker 1: our friend and uh we thought would be a nice thing,
Speaker 1: and this is really Ricky's brainchild to to go on location.
Speaker 1: This is the first time we've been together doing a
Speaker 1: show since like when many moons. I mean I would
Speaker 1: say you have to go back to the combine for
Speaker 1: pandemic potentially. I mean a show of this magnitude, right.
Speaker 1: I think there might have been a Thursday night football
Speaker 1: recap we did from socially distance in a garage maybe
Speaker 1: late last year. But this is the first time we're
Speaker 1: all together doing the show. And and uh, I know Mark,
Speaker 1: you and I are on opposite ends of this. I'm
Speaker 1: so ready to get back together in a workplace and
Speaker 1: do a podcast together, um, because it's just more human
Speaker 1: the connection. Uh. And I know there's the case for
Speaker 1: the other way, but this is hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1: It's like sitting We're looking up at the Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 1: It's about seventy five degrees um. We're surrounded by a
Speaker 1: flock of like eight nines and tens just sort of
Speaker 1: roaming about. I am totally happy here. This is not
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. This is a cubicle somewhere. No,
Speaker 1: but I am. I am on an investigation about the other.
Speaker 1: We we know who the one Erica the other Greg.
Speaker 1: What do you have to say, Well, just maybe that's
Speaker 1: a little bit of all of us, you know, everyone's
Speaker 1: a little bit ah there there is I think Mark
Speaker 1: seems totally eddies. Dan is the one, and it's partly
Speaker 1: because he's the host that he's used to having things
Speaker 1: set up a certain way that seems a little more uncomfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's but maybe it's the surroundings. And I
Speaker 1: would say it has nothing to do with uh, where
Speaker 1: we are and why we're doing this episode, but just
Speaker 1: there's a lot of moving parts. And I'm also under
Speaker 1: a sun that is determined to burn me alive, but
Speaker 1: baking in the sun right now, all the rest of
Speaker 1: us are like nicely shaded. It's great. We're couched in
Speaker 1: wonderful shade. Dan claims, because he's part Austrian, that he's
Speaker 1: fine under the sun. But I'm starting to see a
Speaker 1: little perspiration. And our song is playing, Dan right now,
Speaker 1: Well that's we don't have the copyright control over that,
Speaker 1: So don't pay attention to that. Don't find the music playing,
Speaker 1: or the trucks, the dump trucks, the restaurant. So Chris
Speaker 1: Westling is with us, as he always always is. And
Speaker 1: in fact, Connie, you saw something else right down the
Speaker 1: street here on Santa Monica Boulevard. Oh yeah, when we
Speaker 1: were walking up, there were all these big green Eggs
Speaker 1: for sale right out front at like the hardware store
Speaker 1: right next door, and they were just like out in
Speaker 1: front of us, and my dad was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: love green Eggs. It's like, oh, it's a sign. So
Speaker 1: Lakisha's here, big green Eggs are here, the reds are here.
Speaker 1: West is here with us as he always is, and
Speaker 1: Mark pop quiz No, actually, you know what, because I
Speaker 1: didn't like the insinuation by Greg. Greg why is Pride
Speaker 1: Month in June? I don't know. You're uncomfortable of the Okay, gotcha,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna guess that's not something you guessed for.
Speaker 1: I thought that was going to be part of like
Speaker 1: Erica's time. Basically, Dana set it up now and now
Speaker 1: we're going to hand the show over to Erica for
Speaker 1: the next thirty forty minutes and she's gonna explain what
Speaker 1: pride means to her exactly now what Ricky now and
Speaker 1: I want to say. In preparation for today's show, I
Speaker 1: went and reread that awesome article you wrote on NFL
Speaker 1: dot com last year about your experiences as a gay
Speaker 1: woman in sports media and at the NFL, and it
Speaker 1: was just so well done, and uh, really, I I
Speaker 1: couldn't have um more respect Ricky for what for what
Speaker 1: you do and how you expressed yourself in that article.
Speaker 1: And so this is a nice thing for us all
Speaker 1: to be together, uh, celebrating this all, Well, it means
Speaker 1: a lot that you say that, thank you, And you know,
Speaker 1: you guys were the first people that I told even
Speaker 1: publicly back you know what, three four years ago now,
Speaker 1: and really there's been Pride, There's been five celebrations where
Speaker 1: you guys have been on these streets with me, and
Speaker 1: it means the world. And as I wrote in that article,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have felt comfortable coming forward if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for you guys behind me. I lived in West Hollywood,
Speaker 1: remember being at the Pride parade around two thousand two?
Speaker 1: How about that? What are you trying to say? She's
Speaker 1: speaking to the audience and to us, But I was
Speaker 1: the one who was ahead of the curve. Eric, I
Speaker 1: think we were on this very street together for Pride
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. All right, so this is great,
Speaker 1: We're all so excited to be here together. But this
Speaker 1: is a football show. So it's time to talk some football.
Speaker 1: And before we get to fluid situations in the Summer
Speaker 1: of Love. Let's hit the news. Oh yeah, Gaga, like
Speaker 1: Gaga one of the best halftime shows. Did you guys
Speaker 1: like it? Incredible? I love that. I'm sure it was
Speaker 1: easily the best. She dropped from the ceiling like you're
Speaker 1: in the bey Hives. Settled with the Gaga a little bit.
Speaker 1: When I feel to be. I liked how earnest um
Speaker 1: and like hard on the sleeve. Gaga was like it
Speaker 1: was very cheesy when she jumped off the roof, but
Speaker 1: it was also like she was just embracing it. She's like,
Speaker 1: I'm playing the super Bowl, I'm leaning in and that's
Speaker 1: why I an authentic artist, that lady, Gaga. What's your
Speaker 1: real name? I was gonna say a real name to
Speaker 1: like really punctuate, not Gaga. Alright, alright, here we go,
Speaker 1: focus focus. Oh we got football news coming in. By
Speaker 1: the way, nothing beats two ambulances stuck behind a garbage truck.
Speaker 1: That's not how This football show isn't gay enough. We
Speaker 1: need garbage trunks and ambulances racing to motocross of as
Speaker 1: from major injuries went down between street dudes. All right, well,
Speaker 1: this show ever be posted? Is the question? All right? Here?
Speaker 1: We go Aaron Rodgers, he's officially a holdout over at
Speaker 1: Packers camp. And you know here at the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast, we're not stressing out about it. Um, even
Speaker 1: though if you're a Packers fan, I get it if
Speaker 1: you are, there's no way he's going to be at
Speaker 1: this mini camp. Will see what's going on later on
Speaker 1: this summer if he doesn't show up for training camp anyway,
Speaker 1: So the other wide receivers and all the other players,
Speaker 1: they're at camp. Davante Adams, who Aaron Rodgers has helped
Speaker 1: turn into a superstar through his support behind the reigning
Speaker 1: NFL m v P while being careful not to criticize
Speaker 1: the organization that he is feuding with. Let's listen to
Speaker 1: Davante like he knows where I'll stand. I'll stand on
Speaker 1: excuse me, I'll stand on the mountain and uh and
Speaker 1: uh scream on the mountaintop. You know that that I
Speaker 1: got his back. And like going back to the forgot
Speaker 1: who asked the question about if it was awkward, Um,
Speaker 1: it could never be awkward because I think that any GM,
Speaker 1: any president, any owner, they should one type of guys
Speaker 1: that are you know, back in their players, especially a
Speaker 1: player like that, Connie, this is not this is how
Speaker 1: you have to play it, right. If you're a Packers
Speaker 1: player right now, right, you can't. You gotta support the
Speaker 1: q beause you know the QBS is paying attention to everything.
Speaker 1: But you don't want to distance yourself or disenfranchise yourself
Speaker 1: in the organizations that's cutting your check. It's a tough
Speaker 1: situation I feel like for everyone to be in because
Speaker 1: you have like when when Aaron Rodgers said back and
Speaker 1: I don't even know was that January, that his future
Speaker 1: is a beautiful mystery. He was not playing at all,
Speaker 1: and like all of this has really escalated from one
Speaker 1: thing to another, like talking trash about the culture of
Speaker 1: the franchise and the front office and everything. But I
Speaker 1: think that this game of chicken is bad for everybody
Speaker 1: involved because you have like, how how is the team
Speaker 1: taking it if it's divided the fan base, like I'm
Speaker 1: sure that. I guess on one hand, maybe it's adding
Speaker 1: fuel to the fire for them to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: if they're hearing all of the time like the Packers
Speaker 1: can't compete for the division or a playoff spot without
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, They're all like, well, that's one dude, We're
Speaker 1: an entire team, so what's up. But also it's like
Speaker 1: you're putting this on the coaching staff. I'm sure they
Speaker 1: have opinions, like the team itself, the fans, like everybody involved.
Speaker 1: There's so much collateral damage. I feel like with what's
Speaker 1: going on, and it would be it would behoove everyone
Speaker 1: to meet in the middle and come to an agreement.
Speaker 1: But I think we're kind of past that at this point.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, like at what point when each
Speaker 1: side is going to seed, Like but they don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, divide the Adams doesn't know, Rodgers doesn't know.
Speaker 1: They don't they don't know how this is gonna end.
Speaker 1: It's like when when Connie was in her big contract dispute,
Speaker 1: like all the teammates, all of us just supported her.
Speaker 1: You're gonna support your friend. You want to want them
Speaker 1: to get what they deserve and divide the Adams has
Speaker 1: to keep in mind he's not far away from a
Speaker 1: contract negotiation to become one of the highest paid wide
Speaker 1: receivers in the league, and whether that's gonna be with
Speaker 1: Green Bay or not, Like he might get that money
Speaker 1: a year sooner if it is from Green Bay. So
Speaker 1: it's very, very complicated. I mean I would say this
Speaker 1: to call it a beautiful mystery. I don't know about beautiful.
Speaker 1: Um slightly ponderous on some level. If you're a Packers fan,
Speaker 1: your hair is on fire. This one um note from
Speaker 1: Davante said about Aaron Rodgers, he loves when you have
Speaker 1: his back. Now, he also said I have his back,
Speaker 1: and of course he does, but he loves because Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is a special kind of guy. And he also
Speaker 1: went his way to say, look it, I believe that
Speaker 1: the front office would want me to have the back
Speaker 1: of another player on this team because to your point, yes,
Speaker 1: the contract for Davante Adams is coming up. The thing is,
Speaker 1: it's not February. This isn't back in January when Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson was upset and you had the entire offseason, the
Speaker 1: entire width of the off season to figure this out.
Speaker 1: We are weeks away from July, and we are very
Speaker 1: close to preseason football and training camp. Though training camp
Speaker 1: in the first time, I think it matters even a
Speaker 1: little bit. Does this feel like a camp showdown where
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers simply shows up to the first day of camp.
Speaker 1: I was going to say to bring it back to
Speaker 1: Connie and Conna. I hope I'm not talking out of
Speaker 1: school here. Is this all about men? Actually, Erica, this
Speaker 1: is no longer your show. It's Colleen's show. Um when
Speaker 1: made her surge up the ladder here at NFL Media
Speaker 1: and became a superstar, and we're also proud of her.
Speaker 1: Said we're gonna take care of you in a different
Speaker 1: way than we used to maybe our and Rodgers rip
Speaker 1: up the contract, make things right, get him on the field.
Speaker 1: I think that I think it's really interesting that, uh,
Speaker 1: Jordan's Love said that he talked to Aaron Rodgers like
Speaker 1: about what like a week ago, a week before the
Speaker 1: mandatory minicamp started, and Davante Adams said that he hasn't
Speaker 1: talked to him, correct, So I think that it's interesting
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers has that line of communication open to
Speaker 1: Jordan's Love in a way that maybe Aaron Rodgers didn't
Speaker 1: have with Brett Farve. Like that's that at least is nice,
Speaker 1: I think. But I think that the organization is in
Speaker 1: such a tough spot because what are your options at
Speaker 1: this point? Like you you kind of you have to
Speaker 1: try and build back that trust. If he's going to stay,
Speaker 1: So yeah, you maybe offer him a contract extension, maybe
Speaker 1: you make some type of personnel moves to make him happy.
Speaker 1: They didn't. They didn't want to. They're not going to
Speaker 1: release him after next season. I don't see that happen.
Speaker 1: But it's it's given more money, guaranteed or not. I
Speaker 1: don't Here's what I don't care about is this. There's
Speaker 1: like this tweet from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, which is
Speaker 1: literally maybe the best newspaper in the country when it
Speaker 1: comes to football coverage. But the tweet was, what does
Speaker 1: Jordan loves big second day of mini camp mean in
Speaker 1: the big picture? It was like, how does this affect
Speaker 1: the big picture? It doesn't. It doesn't affect it at all.
Speaker 1: None of that affects it. Like, I don't think how
Speaker 1: Jordan's love looks in mini camp or even training camp
Speaker 1: up until maybe the preseason matters even one bit. Do
Speaker 1: you see though, a scenario where like it's it's a
Speaker 1: nice neat idea that hill Aaron Rodgers will roll back
Speaker 1: into town like mid August and save the day. Could
Speaker 1: this be more of like an Emmett Smith type hold
Speaker 1: out where we don't see Aaron Rodgers untill Week three
Speaker 1: or four, because this gets so nasty money wise, that
Speaker 1: would be annoying because that's all anybody would want to
Speaker 1: talk about when actual football is being played. I hope
Speaker 1: it doesn't. I'm reading a book right now called I
Speaker 1: Want My MTV. It's an oral history of the launch
Speaker 1: of MTV and then through its golden period one to
Speaker 1: ninety two, and MTV had a central guiding principle of nobody.
Speaker 1: None of the talent was bigger than MTV. MTV was
Speaker 1: the star. The talent was disposable, like and ESPN similar
Speaker 1: to that. I hope the Packers don't think the Packers
Speaker 1: brand and the Packers are bigger than Ann Rodgers, because
Speaker 1: that's not how it works. The quarterback, especially at once
Speaker 1: in a generation star like Aaron Rodgers, there's you could
Speaker 1: play chicken with him to a certain extent, but I
Speaker 1: feel like there is at the point where you take
Speaker 1: it too far. There is a lesson maybe to be
Speaker 1: learned here for like you know, the A t N podcast,
Speaker 1: to stop making it seem like you're bigger than NFL
Speaker 1: network and NFL media, Like it might be time to
Speaker 1: back off that. I mean, cook it up all right
Speaker 1: in other news. All right, Greg, this one's for you
Speaker 1: because you have been you know, borderline. I don't know,
Speaker 1: man libelous with Russell Wilson and this this idea that
Speaker 1: he somehow um started his own self promotion Erica, it's
Speaker 1: incredibly distracting when you do that. My dad's also taking pictures.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things. You have to block out
Speaker 1: the noise too when when you're doing the stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: but you said that Russell Wilson campaigned to be the
Speaker 1: m v P. You cited, Uh, you cited a quote
Speaker 1: at some point he talked about He didn't talk about it.
Speaker 1: Everyone was talking about it. He was pumping himself up, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I've always been top five quarterback, how about me as
Speaker 1: number one? All right? So he said that once you
Speaker 1: brought it up four hundred times. Jack Barrett Um, the
Speaker 1: star edge rusher for the Bucks, uh, says, even though
Speaker 1: he was arguably the best player on this defense during
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl championship run. Uh, even though he just
Speaker 1: signed a four year, seventy two million dollar contract. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm coming with Avengers this year. Even though we won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I'm still hungry, like I'm coming. I
Speaker 1: want to be individually like defensive player. Yeah, if they
Speaker 1: want to give me m VP, because my season that
Speaker 1: I have should be m v P level, Like I'm
Speaker 1: coming man, Like, will you bury Shack Barrett repeatedly in
Speaker 1: the same way you buried Rust Wills. Well if he
Speaker 1: then turns has a terrible second half of the season
Speaker 1: and then immediately afterwards leaks to all his media friends
Speaker 1: that he wants to get traded so that everyone forgets
Speaker 1: about the terrible second half of the season and somehow
Speaker 1: playing all on his teammates. Shack Barrett, by the way,
Speaker 1: kind of struggled last year. People. You know, Mark was
Speaker 1: enjoying it for a little while until the very stretch run.
Speaker 1: He was like Tom Brady and kind of the rest
Speaker 1: of the Bucks. He kicked it up a notch down
Speaker 1: in the last five weeks. He would have to be
Speaker 1: a lot better to be defensive player of the I mean,
Speaker 1: the the endless string of narratives that don't actually like
Speaker 1: bear themselves in truth, I'm not I'm not rooting it.
Speaker 1: And Shack Barrett, he had an electrifying campaign a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago that I thought might have been a
Speaker 1: flash in the pan. He proved me wrong. I think
Speaker 1: I've said on the show roughly five to six thousand
Speaker 1: times that I was wrong on that count. He's a
Speaker 1: very talented player m v P. That feels you're on
Speaker 1: a team with the probably the guy who's going to
Speaker 1: be the m v P if he plays up to
Speaker 1: snuff and they go to the player Tom Brady, and
Speaker 1: you know, I I wisely I don't track his decline anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't have all this like complicated, like these nerve
Speaker 1: connections anymore because he's not on the Patriots. So now
Speaker 1: I just sit back and watch it. But isn't it
Speaker 1: like a little bit weird that he's forty three, had
Speaker 1: knee surgery and then it was a full participant in
Speaker 1: the first mandatory uh MINICAM practice, Like, at what point
Speaker 1: do we start questioning Mark? And you're very much into
Speaker 1: the human, at what point do we start to ask
Speaker 1: that question? I think just if you look back at
Speaker 1: like the sixteen forties, like in deep Europe, people were
Speaker 1: dying at like age, like there is just we evolve,
Speaker 1: and I think that Tom Brady's found like a pathway
Speaker 1: to certain health that others did not sports science wise,
Speaker 1: because now you have like other quarterbacks, even though, like
Speaker 1: I saw Kirk Cousins saying like, you know, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: changing my diet and do this all this stuff, It's
Speaker 1: like I wish I had done this like eight years ago.
Speaker 1: It's like, excuse me. Like the advertising was there for
Speaker 1: you and for plenty of athletes, but it's like it
Speaker 1: comes down to your choices. Tom Brady is super weird. Um.
Speaker 1: He people kind of isolate him as someone like I
Speaker 1: would never like not eat nightshades just because Tom Brady doesn't.
Speaker 1: But he's playing still and he's effective, and he's winning
Speaker 1: super Bowls. Maybe following his path. If you're another quarterback,
Speaker 1: I'm about to buy in on the TV twelve method
Speaker 1: because the other methods that I have been using are
Speaker 1: not working. So I'm ready to go down that road.
Speaker 1: Try it out and other news. Connie, You're you're fine,
Speaker 1: You're fine, don't get too crazy, you have fun, you
Speaker 1: have you handle it all. Um, if you go full
Speaker 1: TV twelve, you're gonna start being like, well, I can't
Speaker 1: actually go out. I'm not gonna come over to the pool.
Speaker 1: Par you know this or that parks on the juice
Speaker 1: cleans right now, right part of the TV twelve method
Speaker 1: is you remove any sense of humor from your body,
Speaker 1: like a thousand years attempt that diet because he must
Speaker 1: eat like I must have like like lines of pork
Speaker 1: going down to my intestines every day that I buy it.
Speaker 1: Imagine enjoying eating. Uh, we're doing like lines off the
Speaker 1: table of pork. I try to be a good friend
Speaker 1: and I with Mark right now he's going through a
Speaker 1: juice cleanse, which he does every once in a while.
Speaker 1: So I try to give you a little space because
Speaker 1: I know me texting you like do you want to
Speaker 1: go to the bar or whatever is not toward that goal.
Speaker 1: But I will say, if I have to choose, like,
Speaker 1: what's the better version of Mark that I enjoy non
Speaker 1: juice cleanse Mark, A juice cleanse Mark. It's pretty there's
Speaker 1: no there's no doubt. But I actually, you know, we
Speaker 1: are all going to be hanging out together, um, you know,
Speaker 1: exclusively and high quantities very soon, and I'm preparing myself
Speaker 1: for that to give you that version. We're gonna be well.
Speaker 1: Park didn't want to give it too much information, but
Speaker 1: the way you explained it was insane. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: hanging out exclusively in high quantity. It made it sound
Speaker 1: like we're like we're toilet paper. Well, we're going on
Speaker 1: a bit of a voyage together as a group, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to go in, you know, in game shape
Speaker 1: versus where I was ten days ago, which was like
Speaker 1: someone left by the side of the highway. You made
Speaker 1: it sound like we're all going into it like a
Speaker 1: blood packed and like blood hacks aren't that far away.
Speaker 1: And it's it's a little tough because the one thing,
Speaker 1: we're in the heart of West Hollywood here, and this
Speaker 1: is a fun area. Ricky lives right around here. Everybody
Speaker 1: likes to get loose here at the time. But now
Speaker 1: I gotta bring it down. Talk about something a little depressing.
Speaker 1: It's a little weird. I don't think anyone's done in
Speaker 1: a bit on the porch of Rocos, and yet here
Speaker 1: we are. Former New York Giants head coach Jim Fossil
Speaker 1: passed away at the age of seventy one. His son,
Speaker 1: John Fossil, the special teams coordinator of the Cowboys, confirmed
Speaker 1: the death to The l A Times. He told the
Speaker 1: newspaper his father was taken to a Vegas hospital Chess
Speaker 1: bands He died while being treated um, I just want
Speaker 1: to say, as a native New Yorker, Fossil has a
Speaker 1: very important part of Giants history. And Mark, I think
Speaker 1: you said recently that if you were in a Browns fan,
Speaker 1: you'd be a Giants fan. You know, you had those
Speaker 1: the amazing Giants teams of the nineteen eighties. Once Bill
Speaker 1: Parcels took over and that included two Super Bowl wins,
Speaker 1: and then in UH ninety one, after the second Super
Speaker 1: Bowl win, Parcels walked away, took a year off, went
Speaker 1: to the Patriots. Ray Hanley came in and was one
Speaker 1: of the biggest punching bags in the history of New
Speaker 1: York sports media. He was one and done. Uh. Dan
Speaker 1: Reeves took over after Hanley. He had he had his
Speaker 1: some moments, but the team was still very much under
Speaker 1: the radar. Fassil then comes in and they go on
Speaker 1: this very memorable run in two thousand UH and his
Speaker 1: kind of legacy in New York is this quote he
Speaker 1: gave and Rex Ryan got a lot of mileage. Not coincidentally,
Speaker 1: also another New York coach for a press conference in
Speaker 1: which he made a playoff guarantee that led to a
Speaker 1: deep postseason run. Here's what Fastil had to say, full responsibility.
Speaker 1: I'm raising the stake right now. This is a poker game.
Speaker 1: I'm shoving my chips to the middle of the table.
Speaker 1: I'm raising the anti anybody wants in game, anybody wants
Speaker 1: out and get out. Okay, this team is going to
Speaker 1: the play This team is going to the playoffs. The
Speaker 1: Giants one on a five game winning streak. They win
Speaker 1: the NFC East. They ripped through the NFC get to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. They get wiped greg by the Ravens.
Speaker 1: But um Fossil hung around for a few more years
Speaker 1: after that, had a nice run with New York Giants.
Speaker 1: Passes away at the age of seventy one. Very sad,
Speaker 1: rest in peace. It's such a memorable press conference moment
Speaker 1: because he got booed off the field right before that.
Speaker 1: They had just lost two straight games and he was
Speaker 1: like the enemy of the town. So to make that
Speaker 1: speech in that moment and then to not lose the
Speaker 1: game again until the Super Bowl is a moment you'll
Speaker 1: always be remembered for. He's had an amazing career. I
Speaker 1: mean he was John always coach in Denver, UH and
Speaker 1: always said he would never have been the same player
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for John Fossil and was such such
Speaker 1: a likable guy, Jim. And also, like the New York
Speaker 1: media is so different. I would put Phillies media in
Speaker 1: there too, But that part of the country. Um, the
Speaker 1: Giants lost those two games to the Rams and the
Speaker 1: Lions and fell to seven and four. You're not falling
Speaker 1: off the earth at that point. And he was being savage.
Speaker 1: I think he was a bit of an easy target
Speaker 1: because he wasn't a Bill Parcels type personality. Absolutely, and
Speaker 1: and you know the Ray Hanley. Ray Hanley basically was
Speaker 1: just you know, put out there to get destroyed. But Fassil,
Speaker 1: I mean, he won Coach of the Year in nineties
Speaker 1: seven and they had a couple of down years too.
Speaker 1: With that two thousand year, I thought, like you said,
Speaker 1: was his high point. And something about that day, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we we grew up with w f A
Speaker 1: N I'll never forget that. I was running errands and
Speaker 1: driving around listening to Mike and the Mad Dog right
Speaker 1: after that kind of press conference blew up and it
Speaker 1: was a peak moment on w f M because it
Speaker 1: was so countercultural to how Fossil behaved. Um, that Mike
Speaker 1: and the Mad Dog were doing the best I could
Speaker 1: do with it. But I ran errands for another two
Speaker 1: hours just driving around listening to this because it was
Speaker 1: one of those moments in Giants history that was memorable
Speaker 1: and he was really a wonderful coach for them. Um
Speaker 1: and gets kind of forgotten, I think in the is
Speaker 1: he never got another coaching job. His son, of course,
Speaker 1: Bones Fossil, is with the Cowboys now as their special
Speaker 1: teams coordinator, was in the Rams before that. He's not
Speaker 1: with the minicamp. Uh, Cowboys miniicamp this week because of
Speaker 1: his father's death. But uh, and he's a really good
Speaker 1: coach and a guy on the rise too. So I
Speaker 1: think it's interesting too that like he led the Giants
Speaker 1: to playoffs in his first season as a head coach,
Speaker 1: in three of his seven seasons as a head coach,
Speaker 1: and if you go back six years prior to him
Speaker 1: getting to New York, they had only made the playoffs
Speaker 1: one time, so he like the Giants now, right exactly?
Speaker 1: So he led the Giants to double digit wins three
Speaker 1: different seasons, and the only coaches to do a better
Speaker 1: job with the Giants were Tom Coughlin and Bill parcels.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he is one of the greats there. Um.
Speaker 1: He also drafted a ticky barber who I hated, and
Speaker 1: he was there for that horrendous fumbling problem and he
Speaker 1: was credited with like helping him fixes anyway, Jim Fossils.
Speaker 1: It is a little bit of a mortality reminder when
Speaker 1: these late nineties two thousand's guys pass away, because we
Speaker 1: were all very young, and they seemed to be so
Speaker 1: full life, so uh, very sad, and our hearts go
Speaker 1: out to the Fossil family. That's what's happening in the Oh. No,
Speaker 1: we got a little odds and ends before we we do?
Speaker 1: We do, don't we shall? We are? We gonna do it?
Speaker 1: Are We're going to break out the song? Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna do it? Okay, all right, here we go odds
Speaker 1: and and sodds and and say everybody tell your friends
Speaker 1: because it's odds and and now I just have to
Speaker 1: like obligator, like get it right? So did it? I
Speaker 1: mean without without the backing music track in a live
Speaker 1: venue with other music pumping behind you, and you haven't
Speaker 1: done it in eighteen months. Probably off you're more of
Speaker 1: a pro than when you first started. I think the negative,
Speaker 1: the negative negative. I'm just saying the gap between like
Speaker 1: on screen Colleen and off screen, it's it's getting smaller
Speaker 1: and smaller and just turning into a TV monster. And alright,
Speaker 1: am I supposed to Colleen? You've never sang that out
Speaker 1: louder to yourself in the eighteen months since you last
Speaker 1: sang it on the show that that would concern me.
Speaker 1: I've never come to mind. I don't. Maybe it will, though,
Speaker 1: maybe I will start doing. This is an absurd episode
Speaker 1: of our podcast, and I'm enjoying it. This is like
Speaker 1: this episode five. We wouldn't get a six, but we've
Speaker 1: done like hundred, so it's fine if you're still listening
Speaker 1: right now. I just want to say thank you for
Speaker 1: being a two fan. All right, what do we got? Okay?
Speaker 1: Not a ton? Really just wanted to sing the song,
Speaker 1: uh first one here. Dak Prescott says that dancing during
Speaker 1: Sinko Tomo convinced him his ankle was ready for the season.
Speaker 1: He buried the injury, he said, So some people bury football's.
Speaker 1: Other people bury injuries. And it's Dak Prescott, um, that's
Speaker 1: one thing I've betted. My analysis you got anything work.
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, I don't have a lot
Speaker 1: to add. If I was like and how I think
Speaker 1: quarterbacks would be at dancing, that would be low. I
Speaker 1: really like relatively low. Yeah, he's got rhythm what you've
Speaker 1: actually seen just super Bowl parties, and that gets loose
Speaker 1: that I was at a certain party that I won't
Speaker 1: that's fine. Moves pretty well. Okay, maybe with a little
Speaker 1: lubrication it helps. But Greg's like Teddy Bridgewater is the
Speaker 1: best dance. Yeah, what else he got other than that?
Speaker 1: Toua is holding a lul uh and it says like
Speaker 1: luol with Tua, and I think they were trying to
Speaker 1: do some type of like Ryan Tuscaloosa, he's going back
Speaker 1: for his foundation, so he's going to raise some money. Um.
Speaker 1: I was originally thinking about talking about tah and our
Speaker 1: fluid situation in conversation because like, you know, some people
Speaker 1: have two dads, some people have two moms, some people
Speaker 1: have too offensive coordinators. So he's kind of ana, but
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that one professional. Some people
Speaker 1: just met their dad. People just met their dad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So anyway, and Wolf in the House, wait, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask your dad about his alien sighting. Okay, want
Speaker 1: to talk about it? You don't, don't forget to remind me,
Speaker 1: all right? Anything else? No, that's it. There's one odd
Speaker 1: one end. My dad was hanging out yesterday. So it's
Speaker 1: not odds and ends. It's odd end to end. That's
Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. All right, Now, let's get
Speaker 1: to it. Lukisha, are you doing? By the way, I
Speaker 1: wait until she bit the food. She's good, all right,
Speaker 1: fluid situation in the summer of love. This is the
Speaker 1: summer of love, and I really hope I'm gonna try now.
Speaker 1: Obviously as a forty one year old father of two
Speaker 1: married for nine years. It's a rap, like there's no
Speaker 1: there's no true. It's a rap. It's like I don't
Speaker 1: get to truly have like a a fun like free
Speaker 1: spirited summer. I don't have responsible but I understand where
Speaker 1: you're coming from. I have. I'm visiting, I'm going on
Speaker 1: planes to visit family, I'm paying a mortgage. I got
Speaker 1: kids that need to go to here, And it's all
Speaker 1: it's all relative. Now, Connie, you and Gonzo, for example,
Speaker 1: you got dogs, but you can have a nice summer
Speaker 1: of love. We're just we're gonna go to Mexico City.
Speaker 1: I think, there you go. You're doing that that summer
Speaker 1: of love. And then there's Ricky Hollywood, Ricky, what you
Speaker 1: got cooking this summer? Yeah, there's a lot going on. Um,
Speaker 1: getting getting excited for for this June. I really do
Speaker 1: Wait a second, Ricky, you're saying after we've all been
Speaker 1: sequestered for sixteen months and now things are finally getting in.
Speaker 1: The weather is amazing here in southern California. You and
Speaker 1: your beautiful woman jet. You don't have anything, No, we do.
Speaker 1: I'm going to a bachelorette party tonight, actually hopping the
Speaker 1: red Eye next week atam out of town. It's actually
Speaker 1: a lesbian bachelorette so that should be it's actually my
Speaker 1: ex bachelor. Okay, everything we're canning, everything else that we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk around in the shop. Okay, it's it's just
Speaker 1: the three set. It is the Pride episode of the
Speaker 1: Round the NFL podcast. Erica is getting on a red
Speaker 1: Eye flight on cross country back to her hometown or
Speaker 1: hometown of Jason, Boston, mass for a bachelorette party. Of
Speaker 1: the bachelorette is Ricky's ex? Are you going with? Jeff. Wait,
Speaker 1: where does Jeff come down on this? She's going to
Speaker 1: go to the wedding, but she's not. She's fine. How
Speaker 1: did things end with the x um? I broke her
Speaker 1: heart like five years ago? What? We're still friends, same
Speaker 1: friend group. We love each other, We're very close. But
Speaker 1: do you think you're more attractive than her? But she's
Speaker 1: going to try to make one final play for you
Speaker 1: this weekend? Well, can I ask you a technical question
Speaker 1: about a bachelotte party? There? Well, all right, but typically,
Speaker 1: like a group of women in a bachelor party, we'll
Speaker 1: go out and like let's go talk to like a
Speaker 1: bunch of like beefcakes or like like construction workers are
Speaker 1: like rugby guys. But in your case, would the group
Speaker 1: of women begin what would be the attack? Soon? Would
Speaker 1: you go speak to another group of women at a
Speaker 1: table having like re rented a big house in the Cape,
Speaker 1: and we are we have a clam bake atend, doing
Speaker 1: claim big. We're doing a sex in the City theme
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. And then we all, um, my ex is
Speaker 1: like obsessed with Britney Spears, so we're all going to
Speaker 1: dress up as a Britney Spears era. So I did
Speaker 1: order a schoolgirl outfit that will be this weekend, just
Speaker 1: like the themed cocktails them, you know, like the show
Speaker 1: So I love sex and today we love sex and
Speaker 1: all right, anyone like kind of like slightly sad shaved
Speaker 1: head Brittany, Yeah, probably someone will be. That's if you
Speaker 1: want to be a little subversive, that's a good call. Greg,
Speaker 1: you do that. That would be Greg exactly already. Well
Speaker 1: all right, well, since we're here on our group, our
Speaker 1: group of polyamorous exclusive relationship, very exclusive. Um, since I
Speaker 1: have three beautiful women here at the table, I just
Speaker 1: want to know what Brittaney phase they would be. Starting
Speaker 1: with Connie. Oh, I would do the one with the
Speaker 1: boa constrictor nice, Oh, I'm a slave for you, she
Speaker 1: had her hair good or the music which comeback record?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, outfit? She has the Oh that's hot, that
Speaker 1: was really that was hot. I was gonna wear jets.
Speaker 1: I was gonna wear Jets flight attendant uniform from Toxic,
Speaker 1: but it's the wrong color, so I went from the
Speaker 1: d At other times, do you prance around wearing that outfit? Yes?
Speaker 1: They do actually important, you know partly my showcase, its
Speaker 1: favorite episode. Anybody else had anything share before we move on. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna save it. But alright, where were we fluid
Speaker 1: summers would be? What would I be? Um? I would
Speaker 1: be you know what, I'd be? Red cat suit it again. Well,
Speaker 1: my my best friend Donnie, who plays professional um is
Speaker 1: like six three big lesbian. She got the skin tight
Speaker 1: leather suit and then sent a picture last night that
Speaker 1: it doesn't zip up. She says she's still gonna wear it.
Speaker 1: That's a tough sitch, all right. Anyway, Well, good luck
Speaker 1: with that. Don't drink too much, be careful there. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to tell you that is very That
Speaker 1: is girls. You agree with me, this is an explosive situation.
Speaker 1: Potentially we're gonna have Jet with us, that dad something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jet's gonna be with Colleen and you guys. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: be good. I'm not worried about it. I'm not like
Speaker 1: saying like, don't like make a mistake. I'm saying like,
Speaker 1: don't get into a fight, don't get baited into like no,
Speaker 1: not that I know you won't do that, and she
Speaker 1: won't do that. Probably what kind of fight is Ricky
Speaker 1: gonna get it? You gotta admit my heteronormative mind I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 1: imagine having a bachelor party with all of you guys dresses,
Speaker 1: and then one of the guys that your bachelor party,
Speaker 1: it happens. Yeah, I don't. I don't think you're not
Speaker 1: living in necessarily happens and and bad does go down.
Speaker 1: So I think everyone thought about this. I'm sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think whatever you do, Jet is allowed to do
Speaker 1: at Colleen's house with said figures in the environment. Her
Speaker 1: and John have been really clicking lately. All right, so
Speaker 1: I'll be at the cape with you. Do you have
Speaker 1: an extra at They're coming out, all right, fluid situations
Speaker 1: in the Summer of love. Mark get is gone, alright,
Speaker 1: Well we're going around once, I believe, right, I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well then I'm gonna start with a football one. But
Speaker 1: I have another concern, but I can bring it up later. Um.
Speaker 1: I want to look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers backfield
Speaker 1: because I think one of the most um important signings
Speaker 1: of the off season but underrated, like one of the
Speaker 1: most underrated kind of the flew under the radar is
Speaker 1: Giobinard too the Tampa A Buccaneers. Last year, the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: with battleship for net and the rest of the crew
Speaker 1: had one of the worst UM receiving crews. I know, listen,
Speaker 1: you're making me pivot like super boring territories. You're gonna
Speaker 1: pivot off the Battlelob party. You can't go like third string.
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear my other things? This is literestly,
Speaker 1: this is honestly super annoying to me. Now, Carlos Dunlap,
Speaker 1: who I I traveled to Italy and Germany with lots
Speaker 1: of respect. Okay, so I love him a lot um.
Speaker 1: He is a hard working guy, but he's one of
Speaker 1: this um cast of defenders that on Instagram he changed
Speaker 1: his number and it does the thing where he's running
Speaker 1: around in Seahawks like green and blue. He's forty six,
Speaker 1: and then suddenly it turns to him this big birdly
Speaker 1: pass rusher turning to eight. And I know, everyone's like,
Speaker 1: it's cool. It's like, let them change their numbers. But
Speaker 1: you also have like Patrick Queen going from Ravens linebacker
Speaker 1: Big thick Man going from forty eight to six. Okay,
Speaker 1: matt Matthew jude On, did you add big thick Man
Speaker 1: because we're it's for the Pride Show. No, he's a
Speaker 1: large wide man like and this is my problem. Matthew
Speaker 1: Jude on to nine, Um Jillen Smith four to nine,
Speaker 1: Buda Baker thirty two to three. I know it's it
Speaker 1: seems cute here before with the games start, but it
Speaker 1: is going to be I think two people that have
Speaker 1: watched the game for a very long time. The situation
Speaker 1: is fluid because maybe it will be fine, but I
Speaker 1: do think to some people it's gonna be very disturbing
Speaker 1: to watch, like a pass rusher number three coming in
Speaker 1: and attacking like quarterback number three. It's like college college football.
Speaker 1: That annoys me, but they before that's a terrible pass
Speaker 1: rest number two. That's why it's two guys like me
Speaker 1: and you and Greg. Although Greg, I know you watched
Speaker 1: tape like during draft times. It's like when you don't, Connie,
Speaker 1: do you watch college football because normally I'm very busy.
Speaker 1: But my point being, you're not a big college football fan.
Speaker 1: A wide receiver that's number two, like Julio Jones is,
Speaker 1: now it's blows your mind. I don't. I don't follow
Speaker 1: sports at that level that closely. So when you see
Speaker 1: this like super duper star wide receiver, so it is
Speaker 1: it is fluid, yes, very but the wide receivers I've
Speaker 1: become accustomed to. But when it's like a gigantic, like
Speaker 1: super giant pass rushing guy attacking a quarterback with a
Speaker 1: lower number than the quarterback, like, I like, what's your
Speaker 1: bigger point? Like, well, I don't know if there's a
Speaker 1: point to the fact that, like visually, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like everywhere, no one's saying it matters. But I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a bunch of people on Twitter when
Speaker 1: games start complaining about it. I do. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a talk. You are complaining right now. I'm
Speaker 1: complaining now. I'm getting ahead of the game on the complaints.
Speaker 1: That's good, alright, it's under the radar. I like that
Speaker 1: Greg about a fluid situation in the summer of love.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if these guys are
Speaker 1: um in love with their situations right now. But Chandler
Speaker 1: Jones and Danielle Hunter are both in fluid situations that
Speaker 1: have slipped under the right tell. Hunter has has won
Speaker 1: a new contract since before the pandemic that kind of
Speaker 1: like slipped out of mind because then he had a
Speaker 1: neck injury. But he's still not showing up. They don't
Speaker 1: know if he's ever gonna show up. I don't know
Speaker 1: how he's gonna get more money out of them when
Speaker 1: he just missed the entire year with the neck injury.
Speaker 1: But Chandler Jones is even more fluid. He surprised everyone,
Speaker 1: no one, he is even knowing what the report is
Speaker 1: gonna be. I don't know why we keep saying fluid.
Speaker 1: Then Eric elapsed at me. This is, yeah, the challenge Jones.
Speaker 1: It's such a fluid situation. I don't know it's it's
Speaker 1: basically just football topics. We want to talk about that
Speaker 1: um that we don't know what's gonna happen. I think
Speaker 1: I wonder, I honestly wonder how much the the J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt hullabalu like led to I think that's it. And
Speaker 1: I asked around and that suspicion was confirmed. When a
Speaker 1: player good Chandler Jones, and to be clear, he's you know,
Speaker 1: on it's probably been a little better than J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt over the last few years, is on a team,
Speaker 1: and then you sign a new player who is a
Speaker 1: couple of years older and he's making more money than you.
Speaker 1: That gets on your radar. Big time, and Chandler Jones
Speaker 1: hasn't shown up. And if you remember how he left
Speaker 1: New England, it was it was a very strange, sudden
Speaker 1: sort of at Chandler Jones is gone. He had some
Speaker 1: weird an event like a bath salt. He showed up
Speaker 1: to a police station um asking for help and was
Speaker 1: under the influence of drugs. So that was strange. But
Speaker 1: there's there's been some that, there's been some whispers he's
Speaker 1: been a great player there. I do have doubts whether
Speaker 1: he's going to be on the Cardinals. Would not shock
Speaker 1: me if he gets traded in August, very good. Can
Speaker 1: we do every podcast at a bar like wondering, because
Speaker 1: I'll be there, all right, Um, we'll be here noting. Okay,
Speaker 1: Damien Williams, his future is a very fluent situation. Obviously
Speaker 1: he alright, So think about this thought. He won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with Kansas City, scored two touchdowns in that game.
Speaker 1: Then he opted out last year because of COVID. He's
Speaker 1: twenty nine years old and now all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he's a Chicago Bear. So think about what he had
Speaker 1: to go through last year. He had to sit at
Speaker 1: home and watch the games and watch his replacement basically
Speaker 1: take his job, a young new guy on the scene
Speaker 1: who was doing really great on his team. So I
Speaker 1: don't fault the Chiefs for moving on from him with
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hilaire. But I can't even imagine the mental
Speaker 1: games that Damian Williams played with himself while watching the
Speaker 1: actual games. He told the Suntimes watching at home really
Speaker 1: made him realize that he didn't want to watch anything
Speaker 1: any other games at home anymore, and he just like
Speaker 1: wants to play basically until the wheels fall off. So
Speaker 1: he signed this one year deal with Chicago, which is
Speaker 1: like a really messy situation in and of itself that
Speaker 1: the Bears team in general, that offense, for sure. The
Speaker 1: only thing that kind of swings me the other way
Speaker 1: is Matt Naggy obviously knows him there we go from
Speaker 1: his days at his offensive coordinator in Kansas City, so
Speaker 1: it's a familiar system for him with familiar plays, and
Speaker 1: obviously he's familiar with the coach. So I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: watching this in preseason. I'm gonna see I want to.
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see how they use him with
Speaker 1: dave On Montgomery there the lead rusher from last year
Speaker 1: Tyree Cohen. We hardly saw him at all last year
Speaker 1: because of the a c L in Week three. So
Speaker 1: I feel like this is something to watch for sure,
Speaker 1: because there's some fluid stuff happening. I mean, he almost
Speaker 1: won Super Bowl m v P and then he sits
Speaker 1: out stop talking about my bachelor at party. You gotta
Speaker 1: be careful at that party. We're gonna startcle back to
Speaker 1: that one, all right. UM, I want to say at
Speaker 1: Davante Booker, he's very not just kidding now, I want
Speaker 1: to talk about this One's not It's not exciting, but
Speaker 1: it is notable some injury stuff like it's fluid, it's
Speaker 1: I'm gonna name some guys that are have a huge
Speaker 1: role and a huge responsibility toward making their team successful
Speaker 1: and um, they need their rehab to go in the
Speaker 1: right direction right now. I'll start with Calvin Ridley. You
Speaker 1: know what I hate. I hate foot surgeries, hate them,
Speaker 1: especially for a skill player. I'm not a skill player
Speaker 1: and I've never had foot surgery. I'm as far as
Speaker 1: you can get from this conversation. I'm analyzing the situation
Speaker 1: from a distance. From a distance, UM, what's this? Umos
Speaker 1: is definitely hitting right now. So Calvin Ridley had what
Speaker 1: what it was explained aimed as a minor foot procedure
Speaker 1: and he'll be fine for training camp. I hope so.
Speaker 1: But you just traded away Julio Jones, And I know
Speaker 1: everyone thinks Kyle Pitts is gonna hit the ground running
Speaker 1: and be the greatest tight end of all time, and
Speaker 1: maybe who will be? But we might be going gregg
Speaker 1: from a situation where you were all hopped up, for instance,
Speaker 1: about having this big three together with Matt Ryan, the
Speaker 1: former MVP quarterback. Now Julio is gone, and you got
Speaker 1: Pitts learning the playbook in the pro game, and now
Speaker 1: you have the start and the new number one coming
Speaker 1: off foot surgery. Don't like it, speaking of put your surgery,
Speaker 1: I don't like Quentnin Williams, my team's number one defensive
Speaker 1: player coming up first surgery that went under the radar
Speaker 1: a little bit about a month ago. It's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he just had foot surgery. He'll be back in the
Speaker 1: off season. I don't like that stuff because foot injuries,
Speaker 1: if you follow the sport, you know they might come back,
Speaker 1: but they can reaggravate them easily. More injury stuff Sae
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley. Usually you this time of year, you hear,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, not only do I feel like I felt
Speaker 1: before the injury, I'm better. It's one of the great
Speaker 1: tropes of the offseason. No sad. It's like we're taking
Speaker 1: one day at a time where our goal is to
Speaker 1: get him back and he'll be ready to go week one.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not ringing any alarm bells. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it's the way it's being put out by the
Speaker 1: team is nine. He sounded pretty cautious this week, like
Speaker 1: they there's a lot of work to do still on
Speaker 1: that a c L rehab for an injury to happen
Speaker 1: early last year, keep an eye on that. Kyle Long
Speaker 1: tons of ink digital ink spilled uh after the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl when he came out of a time and signed
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. They're like, the way we and I'm
Speaker 1: saying we is that football got not sent. The way
Speaker 1: we operated on this is like, oh yeah, Kyle Long's
Speaker 1: back and he's the star of two thousand fourteen. He's
Speaker 1: their new guard there, right guard. He's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we don't know what it is. So now that's a
Speaker 1: camp battle and he might be getting surgery, might be
Speaker 1: out of the picture entirely. Um, I'll leave it there.
Speaker 1: There's more players to go through, but keep an eye.
Speaker 1: It's a very fluid situation with these injuries. Anybody else
Speaker 1: have a fluid injury thing that maybe I missed Marie
Speaker 1: Cooper this week, Ian Rapward, this is what I'm getting
Speaker 1: at with the whole like minor injury. He got hurt
Speaker 1: two weeks ago and he might not be ready for
Speaker 1: training camp, and all the comments are like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: no big problem, no big deal. That's two and a
Speaker 1: half months in between when you just got hurt and
Speaker 1: being ready for training If that, if that happened during
Speaker 1: the season, you just missed the little season. That's not minor.
Speaker 1: The coaches lie about offseason injuries more than they lie
Speaker 1: about anything else. I would say Cam Newton hand injury,
Speaker 1: and I'm not again, I'm not reading. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: he hurt his hand. They said it's not serious, but
Speaker 1: he is also, um not practicing right now. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go quick one more time around Mark. Alright, you
Speaker 1: had the Frank Gore one earlier. No, no, no, that
Speaker 1: to not count because with that, I'm not Geo Bernard
Speaker 1: is gonna do great. This is this got on my
Speaker 1: this is more just got on my radar. Uh. New
Speaker 1: Texans coach David Culley will not hold mandatory minicamp next week,
Speaker 1: saying we've accomplished what we want to accomplish. Hold on
Speaker 1: so fluid. First of all, give me a break here, Like,
Speaker 1: the Texans are facing one of the biggest pr crisis
Speaker 1: of any team in sports. Like no, no, no, but
Speaker 1: of any team that like has number one. You have
Speaker 1: fifty plus new players. We're good, We're good. We're like,
Speaker 1: we're a team totally that is fluid and flux as
Speaker 1: any team in the NFL. How about you get back
Speaker 1: together and do some professional work together. I don't like
Speaker 1: the idea that even either even go to the press
Speaker 1: with this saying, hey, you know what, we've wrapped it up.
Speaker 1: We're fine. So when you're one and eight we can
Speaker 1: look back and say, hey, you did everything you possibly could.
Speaker 1: I just think you're you're a new coach. I like
Speaker 1: him a lot. Seems like a nice guy. Everyone likes him,
Speaker 1: But like, you have got to have a different approach
Speaker 1: than you know, Let's just take an extra week off
Speaker 1: because we're the Houston Texans were sky high. Things are fine,
Speaker 1: there are no issues inside the building. We'll see you
Speaker 1: in August. He is he is the new version of
Speaker 1: Who's Handsome, Hank's Boy, that was the coach of No No, No,
Speaker 1: Tom Sula. He's rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. He's
Speaker 1: waited his whole life. He's a sixty four year old man,
Speaker 1: I believe, finally gets a big chair and he's dealt
Speaker 1: this hand. Alright, listen, but people don't get to leave
Speaker 1: the Titanic. You have to stick it out, you have
Speaker 1: to say no. But it's like, I think he took
Speaker 1: the job, he took the gig knowing it was a
Speaker 1: Titanic challenge in front of him. I just kind of
Speaker 1: feel bad for the dude too. But I would say,
Speaker 1: if you're Texans fans, you're wondering, like you're sending me
Speaker 1: like a bunch of emails about dropping like dollars on
Speaker 1: season tickets or twice that, Like, how about like I
Speaker 1: at least have an organization, it says, or tell and
Speaker 1: basis way down here, we're gonna work harder than anyone else.
Speaker 1: We've got a ton of new people, We've got two
Speaker 1: new systems. We're gonna grind as hard as anything. We're good.
Speaker 1: We're out. See you in July. Have a nice time.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to the Bahamas. It's designed. These mini
Speaker 1: camps don't amount to too much. They are not the
Speaker 1: only team that's skipping minicamp, by the way, many teams
Speaker 1: are there because because you boy, he did the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but Shanahan, no one's sitting around wondering if the
Speaker 1: forty Niners have organizational direction. I wouldn't bring that up
Speaker 1: about them. Like, if you're essentially working from behind with
Speaker 1: the with the talent of like a high level college team,
Speaker 1: you've got to do more. I'm just gonna throw out
Speaker 1: this item of news this week that it was just
Speaker 1: a reminder that Deshaun Watson someday could play football again.
Speaker 1: We don't know if that's gonna be this year. But
Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson, his old teammate in Houston, pointing out that
Speaker 1: Watson wants to play in Denver, just got me thinking
Speaker 1: about two that the Broncos, who have a Super Bowl roster,
Speaker 1: like they might have their option or be going for
Speaker 1: either one of these guys in two or maybe like
Speaker 1: later this year, depending on what the NFL wants to
Speaker 1: do about Watson. I've been very hard and I think
Speaker 1: you nailed it. Greg. I've been very hard on John Elway.
Speaker 1: Is anyone listening to this podcast knows, But the light
Speaker 1: bulb did go off for me this morning when I
Speaker 1: saw that. I was like, I wonder if, like, yes,
Speaker 1: of course teddy Bridge order is not the future. Of
Speaker 1: course Drew Lucks stinks, but there maybe this is a
Speaker 1: chess a chess situation, and they're they're playing a different
Speaker 1: game and they're just biding their time to make that play.
Speaker 1: It's probably next year, not Week seven, but the NFL
Speaker 1: is gonna decide on that before any teams done. Mind's quick.
Speaker 1: It's the Zach Earth situation in Philly. Like Ill, it's
Speaker 1: still very fluid. Uh. And for me, I just don't understand,
Speaker 1: as you just mentioned, Mark or whoever did, about the
Speaker 1: the fact that there's a ton of teams in the
Speaker 1: league that canceled their mandatory mini mini camps, and the
Speaker 1: Eagles are one of them. And I don't understand why
Speaker 1: they did that. Because you have Nick Sirianni, you have
Speaker 1: a new coaching staff, you have he'll be fine. Right,
Speaker 1: it feels like it's and I'm not happy about it,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to do because you have
Speaker 1: the whole uncertainty with like Jalen Hurts, and then obviously
Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to happen with U with
Speaker 1: Earth's here, and there's the whispers about Buffalo maybe like
Speaker 1: moving around some cap space and maybe bringing someone in
Speaker 1: instead of that they have Dawson Knox. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but the future of zach Ertz is in question, and
Speaker 1: it feels like maybe we would have gotten a little
Speaker 1: bit of clarity if they had a mandatory mini camp
Speaker 1: and if Earth's would have showed up for that, But
Speaker 1: now we have no idea until training camp. Check out
Speaker 1: all of our Instagram stories because we're doing BTS guys
Speaker 1: right now. And I love I love that you bring
Speaker 1: up zach Ertz because you're a Philly earl. That's super Bowl,
Speaker 1: super Bowl fifty two. We'll live with you for the
Speaker 1: rest of your life. I remember coming upon you up
Speaker 1: on the field at the thirty yard line. You were crying.
Speaker 1: What a moment, and where we were seated in our
Speaker 1: auxiliary press box, zach Ertz coming right towards us with that.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, touch on Gregg watching it just dying inside
Speaker 1: literally the Patriots, just the whole empire crumbling in front
Speaker 1: of Greg. I'll never forget the year before my favorite
Speaker 1: super Bowl victory. Yeah, all right, anyway, so zach Ertz,
Speaker 1: he's a very important figure at the Eagle sence. I
Speaker 1: get it. And and this idea that he's is he
Speaker 1: going or and it's just like I guess I don't
Speaker 1: know if if, why is he still there's I do
Speaker 1: need to go pick up my daughter. We had some
Speaker 1: technical issues. You want to ask my dad about UFOs, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let me just let's go. Is this SAG
Speaker 1: will say goodbye and then uh we'll bring in ed
Speaker 1: Wolf after um, we will, we will, but Greg has
Speaker 1: to jump out. Dawson Knox, by the way, you mentioned
Speaker 1: tight ends and mentioned the bills, my all time favorite
Speaker 1: new tropler and I hope it lasts for a million years.
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox is working with a quote vision specialist to
Speaker 1: improve his hand eye coordination. I hope this. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is insane to me. Like hand eye coordination, that's it,
Speaker 1: Like that's how you got here in the first place.
Speaker 1: If you don't have enough handback coordination now and you're
Speaker 1: in the NFL, You're no specialist is gonna help you.
Speaker 1: And I just hope every year we learned about more
Speaker 1: people visiting vision and specialists. And by the way, if
Speaker 1: this guy that Dawson Knox goes to, if he has
Speaker 1: an all Pro season for the Bills this year, this
Speaker 1: guy is gonna be a billionaire. I hope be the
Speaker 1: new David Andrews. That there was a surgeon. There's like
Speaker 1: a there's like thousands of NFL players. If I just
Speaker 1: had better hand eye coordination, well maybe there's a specialist
Speaker 1: out there, a vision specialist that can do it. Look
Speaker 1: at Jameis Winsday. I don't know what's fluid about that.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about it. All right, Greg,
Speaker 1: you need to go pick up your I'm gonna miss
Speaker 1: the last segment you are, but you get you guys
Speaker 1: can hand Do you have one thing that you want
Speaker 1: to drop that makes anything else you want to say
Speaker 1: about on Pride our special price? I want to say
Speaker 1: I love this town, I love Erica, I love Pride month,
Speaker 1: And um how about things by Tove titlets in My
Speaker 1: favorite thing I've read all year. It's like three really
Speaker 1: short memoirs, packs a big punch, immersive, love it all right,
Speaker 1: close things out by buddy. All right, here we are. Here,
Speaker 1: we are again in the heart of West Hollywood, Rockos.
Speaker 1: What a moment that was when Greg shared that book recommendation,
Speaker 1: was that what it was? I couldn't really hear him.
Speaker 1: All right, now here we are with the legend himself,
Speaker 1: Ed Wolf, legend of this table. You are all right,
Speaker 1: we got Ed. I never thought I'd be doing a
Speaker 1: podcast with two wolves, and here we are very exciting. Ed.
Speaker 1: So you had a long career working at uh, well,
Speaker 1: you're in the Air Force? Correct? Correct? How long were
Speaker 1: you in the Air Force? For? Four years? Four years,
Speaker 1: three years, eight months days? And how proud of are
Speaker 1: you of your daughter that she has kind of went
Speaker 1: into that world of air travel her. I am extremely
Speaker 1: proud of that, and she knows everything that goes on
Speaker 1: on my license. But I went to ground school, I
Speaker 1: graduated from ground school. I just never I was too
Speaker 1: afraid to solo, so I never got my license. That
Speaker 1: is awesome. Is it something that makes you nervous as
Speaker 1: a dad? Your daughter in the air I feel like
Speaker 1: it would freaked me out up. But yeah at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you are excellent, very good. All right, Now, now did
Speaker 1: dig in because you're sitting next to Mark Sessler, who's
Speaker 1: a certified alien freak. This guy, he says, it's not
Speaker 1: just that. Mark, correct me if I'm wrong. Well, no,
Speaker 1: we'll get into this. But the first time that I
Speaker 1: met ed Wolf, this was probably eight nine, eight years ago,
Speaker 1: when you guys were at the Whaler and I was
Speaker 1: with West actually, and we happened to be there in
Speaker 1: separate parties, and we saw you, and it's the first
Speaker 1: time we ever hung out um in person, and you
Speaker 1: at the end of the night shared a story and
Speaker 1: we were you know that we had a few drinks
Speaker 1: in us UM. You shared a story about something that
Speaker 1: happened to you in the Air Force DAN and affected
Speaker 1: me quite a bit. I thought about it. So you
Speaker 1: were watching the skies take us through it. I was
Speaker 1: actually at uh I. See I worked in an IBM
Speaker 1: site and intercontinental Ballistic Missile site and uh I was
Speaker 1: in South Dakota and in the horizon I saw a
Speaker 1: light whatever you want to call it a light and
Speaker 1: it did not move in normal progression as a star
Speaker 1: and airplane everything it was very fast. We're up, down, over, left, right,
Speaker 1: all kinds of different trajectories, is the best I can say.
Speaker 1: It was not normal and so moving in a way
Speaker 1: that terrestrial aircraft doesn't move technologically correct correct correct, And
Speaker 1: it wasn't on the radar and no, no, I about
Speaker 1: in a way that a weather balloon does not move. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: totally totally abnormal. I'm gonna put it that way. And
Speaker 1: you were with someone else, right, what you were with
Speaker 1: someone else? A bunch of people, Yeah, yeah, they all
Speaker 1: saw too. And we had an air policeman who was
Speaker 1: with me and he said, I didn't see anything because
Speaker 1: I'm going to be getting on the moor. Now. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you followed this very closely and that there was
Speaker 1: a sixty minutes expose on this, and there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff in the media that the government or
Speaker 1: they've un unlocked these documents and they're saying, listen, we
Speaker 1: have these moments like you're explaining these look like UFOs
Speaker 1: or do you know what they call it? Now there's
Speaker 1: a different term. But we don't know what these are.
Speaker 1: We can't explain what these are. We also can't say
Speaker 1: we're not saying it's aliens, but we can't rule it
Speaker 1: out either. Ed put it on the record, military man,
Speaker 1: do you think what you saw was an alien? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Absolutely question give up beat. He knows it was an
Speaker 1: alien and wasn't Russian UFO on identified flying object, but
Speaker 1: it was it was mag normal. It was totally abnormal
Speaker 1: in the laws of physics that we know it could
Speaker 1: have been. Can I ask you a follow up? UM?
Speaker 1: So there is it must be good for you to
Speaker 1: see that it's becoming i mean almost underwhelmingly so normalized.
Speaker 1: Now everyone's like, oh yeah, now, but there's there's UFOs.
Speaker 1: We all get it, like, there's not a freak out
Speaker 1: aspect to it yet. UM. But there is another train
Speaker 1: of thought that suggests that a large number of these
Speaker 1: are not coming from somewhere far away down to our Earth,
Speaker 1: but coming from deep underground bases under like Antarctica, and
Speaker 1: they're coming up through the sea. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: UM observation where they're coming up through the water. Do
Speaker 1: you think that there's something potentially to that where, Um,
Speaker 1: there are parts of our Earth or Inner Earth that
Speaker 1: we obviously don't know anything about. The sea is five
Speaker 1: percent discovered, Um, is there something other than just coming
Speaker 1: from another planet, or do you think or something to
Speaker 1: any of that. It could be totally could be from
Speaker 1: the ocean. I have no idea, but you know these things,
Speaker 1: uh hover over the horizon and then then get below
Speaker 1: the sea base and you don't see him anymore. So
Speaker 1: definitely could be our friends. I totally wow, unbelievable. Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield saw UFO. Everyone's like, oh, it's Baker Mayfield. Now
Speaker 1: it's like, excuse me. That was a little suspect about
Speaker 1: It's not a suspect. All right, before we say goodbye, Um,
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni, how you feel about it? And then again,
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni, how you feel about it? The head coach
Speaker 1: of the Eagles, Um, how do you feel about him? Excellent?
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready. You have total faith in the
Speaker 1: new leadership? Yes, all right? What about the Carson went
Speaker 1: to trade? Were you upset when he was traded? Not
Speaker 1: at all? Was not upset at that at all? No
Speaker 1: loyalty Carson went in Philadelphia? There takes alright, alright, and
Speaker 1: we're about to finish a show with a segment what
Speaker 1: we call things that were gay for So if you
Speaker 1: want to pop off that's totally understandable. I don't care
Speaker 1: stick around. All right, all right, we'll start with Mark Sessa,
Speaker 1: what are you gay for? Right now? Well, I will
Speaker 1: just say, because I haven't had a chance during this
Speaker 1: episode that like, I do think it's super cool that
Speaker 1: we're here because of Erica. We would never be otherwise.
Speaker 1: And I mean we've known Erica for five years now
Speaker 1: or so, and it was not easy for you, I
Speaker 1: think when you came to the NFL to share that
Speaker 1: with anyone, and I I kind of like becoming your
Speaker 1: friend and like tracking your Instagram. I was like, I
Speaker 1: kind of think that there, this may be the case.
Speaker 1: Is there? I go, But I don't have like hardcore proof.
Speaker 1: But you you you shared it with a close circle
Speaker 1: of friends early on. But even our workplace was not
Speaker 1: the easiest place for that, and I'm sure it is
Speaker 1: now it's gotten better. But it's cool just to see
Speaker 1: um that you're you own it, you are who you are,
Speaker 1: and like, uh, having I'll say again, having that one
Speaker 1: day trounced around these streets with you. Erica is not
Speaker 1: only like she's not like the top fifty most popular
Speaker 1: person up here at night, She's say, like the top.
Speaker 1: She's like a Tom Brady a popularity among other less women.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you're doing great, very well, said
Speaker 1: Mr Sessler. How about kon. You guys make me gay.
Speaker 1: I love hanging out with you guys, and it makes
Speaker 1: me so happy whenever I can come on the pod
Speaker 1: and especially see you guys in person. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: for me, it's more just hanging out with you guys
Speaker 1: and seeing you and sharing sharing food and sharing time
Speaker 1: and sharing labs, and it's less about the football for me,
Speaker 1: and you guys just make me so happy whenever we
Speaker 1: can make time for each other. So this is really nice.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I feel the same way Colleen, and Uh,
Speaker 1: I was gonna share similar thought to Mark. I just
Speaker 1: think it's so great. Like I grew up, we talked
Speaker 1: about the Stonewall riots um that occurred in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: nine that kind of like kicked off of this revolution
Speaker 1: and it's helped take us to where uh things are
Speaker 1: now and hopefully continue to go forward uh in a
Speaker 1: positive direction. But like when I was growing up, like
Speaker 1: you know, I was an eighties kid, early nineties kid.
Speaker 1: It's amazing, especially being in the suburbs that there was
Speaker 1: just no connection to things like gay culture and things
Speaker 1: of that nature. So I just think it's there's there's
Speaker 1: literally a helicopter landing right next to us behind us. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's the West, the Vietnam. Good morning anyway, Ricky, let
Speaker 1: me get you. We all love you. It's just so nice.
Speaker 1: And do you want to put a cap on it?
Speaker 1: What are you gay? Yeah? I mean the fact that
Speaker 1: we're even let's wait for the helicopter and Ricky's also
Speaker 1: wearing a NASA shirt right now, so like everything really
Speaker 1: connects there we go, so I um, the fact that
Speaker 1: we're even doing this episode makes me want to feel
Speaker 1: teary right now. It's like I am so supported by
Speaker 1: you guys, and we are such an incredible family when
Speaker 1: my family is so far away, and there isn't anything
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't do for you guys. And it's clear
Speaker 1: that you guys feel the same way because we're all
Speaker 1: here and I love you guys very much. Oh, Ricky.
Speaker 1: When Ricky gets emotional makes me I love her so much.
Speaker 1: All right, let's bring this thing in for a landing.
Speaker 1: Oh I like that idea. Wait, can you clear us
Speaker 1: for landing with? How you a clear okay, all right,
Speaker 1: so give me want to say that I have a
Speaker 1: bunch of gay friends that I have and they're great.
Speaker 1: I love them. Some of my best friends are alright,
Speaker 1: ed Wolf brought it into the landing all right. By
Speaker 1: the way, I'm gonna sign off now, Ed, and then
Speaker 1: if you can give your air traffic control sign off
Speaker 1: for the whole show, can I throw it to give
Speaker 1: us some lingo when you're bringing a bringing in an
Speaker 1: aircraft for landing, Okay, when I point to you, okay scenario.
Speaker 1: So anyway, this is a great This is a great
Speaker 1: experience to be back together, um, and we're gonna have
Speaker 1: some fun times, more private times altogether to celebrate the
Speaker 1: great Chris westling and I'm so excited for that. And
Speaker 1: just looking at Lakisha uh fills our hearts with joy.
Speaker 1: So this is just such a nice day. I love everybody,
Speaker 1: Love you guys, love West Hollywood, love gay Roccos, I
Speaker 1: love everything. All right. Now we'll be back. We're going dark.
Speaker 1: We got one more show next week, right, Mark, and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna go dark. All right. You decide that
Speaker 1: we'll be back early next week, and then we'll give
Speaker 1: you an update on what We're gonna go dark for
Speaker 1: a little bit, but that's it. Thank you everybody for listening,
Speaker 1: and if you made it this far into the episode,
Speaker 1: you are a true fan. All right, ed, we'll take
Speaker 1: us home, bring us in for a landing. When playing land,
Speaker 1: you say clear to land. After the land you're saying,
Speaker 1: turn left next intersection and contact ground control on twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Have a nice stay. Heed the call SA SA S
Speaker 1: S S S S S S H S