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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 1: straight Fire? Fam? It's means Jason McIntyre Straight Fire for Thursday,

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Speaker 1: March thirty one, and do we have a special treat

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Speaker 1: for you to end the month of March. It's been

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Speaker 1: a great march here on the podcast. Obviously a lot

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Speaker 1: of college basketball content. The craziest NFL offseason ever. I

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Speaker 1: think that's official, that's not just hyperbole on my part.

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Speaker 1: We've got more NFL news in a minute, but I

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Speaker 1: gotta hype up today's interview. It's with fran for Silla.

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Speaker 1: Longtime listeners of the podcast will know I am buddies

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Speaker 1: with Frand for Silla, the announcer for ESPN. He's been

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Speaker 1: calling games forever on that network. He knows a Big

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Speaker 1: twelve as well as anyone. I love to bring him

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Speaker 1: on and talk college hoops, NBA Draft. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: just an oracle. France for Shilla is one of the

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Speaker 1: great guys in college basketball and what's kind of a

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Speaker 1: CD sport. He's a good dude. And we talk at

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Speaker 1: length about the final four games, player pro prospects, what

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Speaker 1: the hell happened in Kentucky? What the heck happened to

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Speaker 1: Gonzaga Fred Fritella. Listen, he's got some good takes. I

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Speaker 1: think you guys will like it, but first we have

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Speaker 1: a little a kernel of news, if you will. In

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I was thinking. I was like, oh, when

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Speaker 1: I wake up, I got it. It's easy, this is

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Speaker 1: I see Bruce Arians has decided to retire as coach

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady just came back a month ago. Ohh okay,

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Speaker 1: I got my I got my podcast for tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta sleep on it. You wake up, You've

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady retire shocks the world by retiring in February.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Tom Brady goes to a soccer match.

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Speaker 1: The Glazers, owner of the Bucks, host Tom Brady in

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Speaker 1: talks to Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, the legendary soccer player. Afterwards,

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Speaker 1: I'm coming back to play. And everybody says, oh, you

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Speaker 1: hung out with the Glaziers. You convinced them changes need

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Speaker 1: to be made. What changes were needed? Well, just to

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Speaker 1: make Tom Brady happy. I don't know, guys. Let's think

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Speaker 1: who did Brady maybe not get along so well with

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Speaker 1: then last year Bruce Arians not refused to give Brady

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Speaker 1: the most credit. But it was like, yeah, everybody thinks

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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl for them. Guys. This was this

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady arrives and they win the damn Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Let's stop acting like Tom Brady didn't put them over

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Speaker 1: the top and wasn't the main reason they won the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Like Bruce Arians is a really good coach,

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Speaker 1: you know, so he could get Todd Bowls the job,

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Speaker 1: and that's honorable. I don't care what you tell me.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I kind of refused to believe that. Now

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Speaker 1: Al Right, before we get to fran Fraschilla, I gotta

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Speaker 1: Frand for Shilah Fran, how are you? Man? Jason's always

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Speaker 1: my son, Matt has been the video coordinator at Villanova

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Speaker 1: He's going to the Final four. But he's a junkie

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Speaker 1: But you know, my hearts with Villanova in the first one,

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Speaker 1: He had zero games of twenty three or more points

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Speaker 1: all season. He's had two in the tournament. The game

425
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: against U C. L A was ridiculous. He's making unbelievable shots.

426
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: I don't know much about him. He's a Midwest kid.

427
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: He's been phenomenal and he's gonna be a problem for Duke.

428
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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about him. I watched him early

429
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Speaker 1: in the year when they went to uh Mohegan's son,

430
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Speaker 1: and I have to tell you like he was. He

431
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: was not. He did not know what his game was. Um,

432
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: they were really trying to figure themselves out. I think

433
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Speaker 1: Hubert Davis, quite honestly, my friend and former colleague, was

434
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how he was going to coach

435
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Speaker 1: this team. And Caleb Blove I thought, here's a couple

436
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Speaker 1: of things. Jason number one, I felt like he was

437
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Speaker 1: playing with one foot out the door. And I this

438
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Speaker 1: is from thirty thousand feet I have I have no

439
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Speaker 1: this is just from me observing him. I felt like

440
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Speaker 1: he had one foot out the door and he was

441
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Speaker 1: off to the NBA, even though in my mind he

442
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: wasn't ready then and I'm not even sure now. But um,

443
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: what he can do is score. He is a scorer,

444
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: and I think it took a while for remember they

445
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 1: lost Austin Garcia, the kid that transferred in from Marquette,

446
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: big kid who was kind of sharing time with Brady Baycott,

447
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: I thought had a subpar season a year ago. I

448
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: just think all the pieces started to fit together. And

449
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: the one thing you want of at a cable cable loove,

450
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Speaker 1: especially when your coach is a prolific shooting guard, maybe

451
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Speaker 1: the greatest shooter to ever play in North Carolina right

452
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: is a bro shoot the ball when you're open and

453
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Speaker 1: don't look over at the bench, and he's playing with

454
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Speaker 1: supreme confidence right now. He knows who he is, he's

455
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Speaker 1: got swagged, and I think he's playing more for Carolina

456
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: right now than he was for himself earlier in the year.

457
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Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to disrespect this kid. I think

458
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Speaker 1: sometimes when you come that highly recruited, that much expectations

459
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Speaker 1: and your friends have already gone one and done to

460
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Speaker 1: the league. You know, kids you play with the McDonald's game,

461
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: there's that tendency to press a little bit. But right now,

462
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Speaker 1: who he is is an elite scorer and he's he's

463
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Speaker 1: doing it at the right time. That's a great point

464
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Speaker 1: because I feel like when Duke was struggling this year

465
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Speaker 1: towards you know what, February, maybe they went through some

466
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Speaker 1: kind of malaise, people like, oh, they're not playing any defense.

467
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Speaker 1: You wonder did I mean they got like at least

468
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Speaker 1: four or five first round picks, right, I mean, do

469
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Speaker 1: you think they were thinking, all right, it's all about

470
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: it's all about getting to the NBA, you know, and

471
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Speaker 1: they just lost focus because the defense has not been

472
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Speaker 1: great for the offense has been unbelievable. Well, I would

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Speaker 1: say this, um, and I've had this discussion with former

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Speaker 1: players of coach K and I think he's kind of

475
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Speaker 1: backed me up on this. He's not a great ex

476
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Speaker 1: and O guy. He's a good guy. He is a

477
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Speaker 1: master of number one, getting you to play hard. Um,

478
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Speaker 1: by and large, you're always gonna be good defensively at

479
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Speaker 1: Duke and as times would are not as good, um

480
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Speaker 1: because they have guys on the team that Warri used

481
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Speaker 1: to playing defense in high school. But UM, where Coach

482
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Speaker 1: K is a master is figuring out whose team is

483
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Speaker 1: and how to put guys in the best position. And

484
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Speaker 1: and that's what Hubert did, I think in the in

485
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Speaker 1: the last month of the season. But when it comes

486
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Speaker 1: to coach k he's a he's a man. And I

487
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: will say this, Jason. I talked to my coaching friends

488
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Speaker 1: all the time. The amount of stress and pressure these

489
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Speaker 1: kids are under nowadays from the outside world, family, friends,

490
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: a you guys to become pros is enormous. And you

491
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Speaker 1: really can't blame him because a lot of these kids

492
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Speaker 1: this is an amazing ticket, right you and I would

493
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Speaker 1: love to be where Paul bon Carol right now. You

494
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You know I want to be

495
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Speaker 1: poo Ban Carroll for two weeks on that campus, right Uh,

496
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Speaker 1: let alone have his game. So the pressure these kids

497
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Speaker 1: are under is real. It's real. The the whole thing

498
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Speaker 1: about the mental stress of you know, young people nowadays,

499
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Speaker 1: right a mental illness. We're seeing it with our those

500
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Speaker 1: tennis stars. It's real. So coach k Hubert Bill self,

501
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: they're managing this on a day to day basis, and

502
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: when a team starts to click in last month of

503
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Speaker 1: the season, it could be a merry you the reasons

504
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: why they're doing it, and part of it is just

505
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: it's up here in the head, it really is. And

506
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Speaker 1: the coach that can get his guys to figure it

507
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Speaker 1: out by and stay together. Look, your day will come

508
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Speaker 1: as a pro. Let's just try to win as many

509
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Speaker 1: games as we can before you leave for the NBA.

510
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Speaker 1: You know, kudos to those coaches who can do that,

511
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: because it's not easy. Fox Sports Radio has the best

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515
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Speaker 1: Ben Carroll NBA comp that you think is and again,

516
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Speaker 1: he's a real tough one. Really well, not in terms

517
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: of being the greatness of Carmelo yet, but think about it.

518
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Speaker 1: He's six nine, he can score in the mid range.

519
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: He's got a power game. He's kind of a four,

520
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: but he can play some three, can handle the ball.

521
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Hasn't shot it great from outside yet, but it looks

522
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Speaker 1: like it's coming. I I that's my parison. Like wow,

523
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Speaker 1: I like that, Like the only one that I had

524
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: heard that was interesting. With Blake Griffin. Yeah, I don't,

525
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Speaker 1: I don't listen now the play, but maybe the Blake

526
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Speaker 1: Griffin is playing, you know now, because Blake Griffin. I

527
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Speaker 1: remember at Oklahoma, Blake Griffin that I watched for two

528
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Speaker 1: seasons at Oklahoma. Man, he man, he you know, he

529
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: could fly through the air. Now, Yeah, I don't think

530
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Speaker 1: here a less of a high flyer. Yeah, I think

531
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Speaker 1: it's more of the body, you know, like six eight

532
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Speaker 1: fifty whatever he is. Well, I think I think Paulo.

533
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Speaker 1: That's why I say he's a power of quote powerful

534
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: because I always felt Carmelo had the power game, mid

535
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Speaker 1: range game, you know, step off the lane, face up

536
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: and score over you. And I think that's that would

537
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Speaker 1: be my comparison to Polo is that uh, you know,

538
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Speaker 1: vintage early Carmelo game. But I mean not the Carmelo

539
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Speaker 1: that we remember now that scored you know, twenty two

540
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Speaker 1: thousand whatever point. But that's who I like. And I

541
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a good, good pro. I don't

542
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Speaker 1: know if he's gonna be the number one pick. Oh

543
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Speaker 1: that was my next question. I have a hard time

544
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: turning down a chance to draft Jabari Smith. Oh wait,

545
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: I thought you could say, well, I mean, you know,

546
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: chech I know, I know, Uh, I mean to me,

547
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: um again, I haven't started to study these guys. I will,

548
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: but just from what I've seen, the guy that intrigues

549
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: me run off the bat, it's Jabari Smith. Because at

550
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Speaker 1: six ten he's athletic. He's long, he's mobile, he can

551
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: shoot from deep, he can get to the whole. He's

552
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: gonna be position list offensively. You know, he's gonna be

553
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: that modern guy that can play three, four or five.

554
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: Um at Chet's unique in his own way. Obviously, we

555
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: haven't seen a guy like him, unless you count Pokachevski

556
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma City. Nobody, nobody. I thought you could say

557
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. I'm just kidding. He was in my earbud here,

558
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: but uh no, uh now, listen, you can't compare him

559
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: to Kevin. I saw Kevin also, you know, and as

560
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: Danny Manning once told me, nobody has played a better

561
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: half an Allen Field House than Kevin's first half against

562
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: Kansas his freshman year at the half and then he

563
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: sprained his ankle. I might have to go watch that

564
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: back on YouTube. Other Duke guys. So, Jeremy Roach did

565
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Speaker 1: not start at point in the season finale against you

566
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Speaker 1: n C, which is, you know, in hindsight, a stunner.

567
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: He's I thought he's been phenomenal in the NCA tournament.

568
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: He's finishing at the rim, his handle, I mean he

569
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Speaker 1: I think he's exciting I'm a big Jeremy Roach fan.

570
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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Yeah, you know, I followed him

571
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: in high school, and honestly, I I couldn't give you

572
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: an honest one on Jeremy or Trevor. They both played

573
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Speaker 1: on the same high school team. And um, I'd have

574
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Speaker 1: to really start to study him because I've watched him,

575
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: but I haven't looked at him from the standpoint of NBA.

576
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: But I love the fact that everybody on that starting

577
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: fire now a j Griffin's become their score. He's their

578
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: Caleb love you know, Roach and Keels is a bulldog

579
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Speaker 1: tank going to the basket, kind of a Bradley Beal type.

580
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: When del Moore versatility can play, you know, the three

581
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: or the four small ball can can play. Make um

582
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: watching really playmate, I think. And then Paolo is your

583
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, is your inside outside guy. They get you

584
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: get a little bit you got well. Obviously Mark Williams

585
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: uh can't talk enough about him because he's the defensive anchor.

586
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: And so I love their balance. I really think that

587
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: it's not just Paolo, but they've got a lot of

588
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of balance on that team. It

589
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: sounds like you're leaning Duke a little bit here. I

590
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: like to I really do. I I like the psychological

591
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: advantage that they'll have because they were so embarrassed. I

592
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: was embarrassed for them. I'm not saying I love dude. Well,

593
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: now that was a close game. Well I thought it

594
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: was like a two point game with like five minutes

595
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: and then yeah, and then and then what what What

596
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: you love about that game from Carolina standpoint is think

597
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: about it. You didn't hear a peep out of Hubert

598
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: Davis all week? You know it was a coronation. Yeah,

599
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: that's at good point. You know, Hubert such a class

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00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: guy that he just and I know Hubert and you

601
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: could you you could tell by the way Hubert coaches. Now,

602
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: I used to say he was the nicest man in

603
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: the world. Right, I can't say that about him anymo.

604
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: We're not at his oath. I have to give that

605
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: to Lafonso Ellis. He's now the nicest man in the world. Okay,

606
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: But Hubert had to smile on his face when he

607
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: was a TV. Hubert's a tremendous competitor. And what they

608
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: did to Duke that night and Cameron was impressive. And

609
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: they use it as a jump start. Duke used it

610
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: as a jump star, Jason. That's why this bout is

611
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna this battle is gonna be so cool because who's

612
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: gonna have the psychological advantage on Saturday? Because they both,

613
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: in their own way, used March five to be the

614
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: jump start to their season. That's kind of cool. Yeah,

615
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: very cool. Now. I know it's hypothetical, but in a

616
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: Duke Kansas Championship game, is there, who do you get?

617
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: You gotta go Duke there right, I would say, if

618
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, if he asked me to, uh handicap, I say,

619
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Speaker 1: Duke four and a half, you know, guessing you know

620
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: that would be me. But once you played that game, man,

621
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Speaker 1: you know what Jeff Van Gundy says that you're you know,

622
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: you're you're you're listeners. I'm gonna we're on zoom so

623
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: you can see this balls in the air. Good coach,

624
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: back coach, good coach, back coach, and that one game, man,

625
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: if that ball is not going in or you go

626
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: thirteen and six from foul line, oh you know so. Uh.

627
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: But I think what we love about this Final four

628
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: is it's four teams and four programs. We know, well,

629
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Speaker 1: we we love to hate you know, we love to

630
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: hate dude. I don't love to hate him, but I

631
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: don't either. Yeah, no, I admire what they've done. But

632
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: my point is there's a lot of interesting storylines in this,

633
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: in this final four. For obvious reasons, I don't want

634
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: to rehash too much of the tournament. It's in the

635
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Speaker 1: rear view mirror. I am a little curious your take

636
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Speaker 1: on Gonzaga. I don't know if you can call it

637
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: a choke, friend, I don't know if the coaches like

638
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: that word, but that that's an unfathomable loss. And Mark few,

639
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, this is starting to feel like a little

640
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo bills here. What do you what do you make

641
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: of it? Well, you know, Mark's a good friend. So

642
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: I would, first of all, say, put's put it in perspective.

643
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: If I'd have told you I always say this. I said,

644
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Speaker 1: this is Scott Drew once when he had lost like

645
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: six in a row, about eight years ago, after he

646
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: turned bail around. And I said, if thirteen years ago,

647
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Speaker 1: if I would say this way, if I told Mark

648
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: f hey, listen, bro, here's what's gonna happen in two

649
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: thousands two. You have been to a couple of final fours,

650
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: you'll be in the leade eight like a million times.

651
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna have an eighty win eight hundred win percentage.

652
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, you haven't won a national title.

653
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: Would you take that? He would have taken into the heartbeat,

654
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: and every Gonzaga frand fan would take that. I I

655
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: honestly think they weren't all year as good as everybody expected.

656
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: Huh uh. And and because they lost a lot of

657
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: good players last year. You know, you look at the

658
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: guys they've lost. You know, I'm trying to you know,

659
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: um Kissburg comes to mind. But they were an experienced team,

660
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, Jalen Suggs, I mean, you know,

661
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: top five pick, Rashier Bolton, nice player. You know, Julian Strawther,

662
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: nice player, didn't play a lot last year. You know,

663
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: Andrew nem Hard if he was an NBA player last year,

664
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: he would have left. Yeah. He had a brutal game

665
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: against Arkansas. They just ate him up. I think it

666
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: was two for a They got in his ass man

667
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: and and so the other thing that I think hurt

668
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: them is and this is an embarrassment of riches. I

669
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: really never felt like I felt like it. I think

670
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: I think Jed Holmgren took away from True Timmy's brilliance,

671
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, and I know they like each other, they

672
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: love each other. They're great kids, their competitors. I was worried,

673
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, ched Holmgren opened up his second game of

674
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: his career. I think he had two points against Texas. Oh,

675
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: by the way, True Timmy had thirty seven, and so

676
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that worked away everybody thought it would,

677
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: even though they're both great kids and listen, I just

678
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: didn't think Gonzaga was quite the team that was the

679
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: team that we saw last year, and you know we

680
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: saw it against Alabama, uh in December when Alabama meet

681
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: him in Seattle. I didn't think they were the juggernaut

682
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: that people expected. And when you talk about Arkansas and

683
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: and Muscleman, you're talking about junkyard dogs. I mean, there's

684
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: nobody that can motivate you better than Eric musselman Man.

685
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know he got those guys

686
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Speaker 1: ready that game. You know. I I don't know if

687
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: you'll agree, but Drew Timmy has a year. You know,

688
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: he's only a junior, you know that, and he could

689
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Speaker 1: try for the NBA. I don't think he's a first

690
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: round pick. But given the n I L money he

691
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: can possibly make, he's got a great career, one of

692
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: the better careers. He just might not winning a championship

693
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: at Gonzaga. Like, would you advise him to come back

694
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: for another year? Oh yeah, oh yeah, alright, listen, No,

695
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Speaker 1: I I think a couple of me. I think he

696
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: might be back for two Warriors. Oh, he's gonna be

697
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: a senior next year. Now, he had right, he may

698
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: get tired of you know, college. But when we were

699
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: when we were up there in November for the Texas game,

700
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: in my hotel, it was it was a Drew Timmy,

701
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: uh advertisement for the local casino, you know, on the

702
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: Indian reservation there. And so there's no question Drew Timmy's

703
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: gonna do well the next year or two. And I

704
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: would say this about Drew Timmy because I love his game. Um.

705
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: In the history of Gonzaga basketball, you don't you don't

706
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: know the name Frank Burgess, but he was a great

707
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: player in the fifties. He was one of the first

708
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: great black players at Gonzaga. Later became a federal judge.

709
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: But Frank Burgess, John Stockton, Adam Morrison, and we can

710
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: think of one other guy, and Drew Timmy's going on

711
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: to Mount Rushmore. Really okay, so he should stay. Then

712
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: I think he should stay, and I think he will,

713
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: and then when he comes out, he tries to play

714
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: in the NBA like a Tyler Hansborough. He's got a

715
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Speaker 1: chance to play in the league and be a backup,

716
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: I think. And if he's better for seven or ten years,

717
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: I think, right you, uh, Indiana Pacers. Yeah, yeah, So

718
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: I think I think he can play in the league. Um,

719
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: but I think if I would advise him, take a

720
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: look at the league, let them advise you what to do,

721
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: and if you don't feel you strongly you're gonna be

722
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Speaker 1: drafted in the first round or early second come back

723
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Speaker 1: and be the face of Gonzaga and college basketball, because

724
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: I do think he'd be one of the front runners

725
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: next year for player of the Year. By the way,

726
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: after that thirty seven point game, we all anointed him

727
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: player of the year in college basketball. Yeah, I remember

728
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: he was a player of the year after that one game,

729
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: and yet it didn't work out that way. Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

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733
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Speaker 1: s R to listen live to other Real Quick Tournament

734
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: questions in the Rearview Mirror. Listen, we praised Calipari on

735
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Speaker 1: this podcast for pivoting to the transfers from the one

736
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: and duns and it was such a genius move. And

737
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: then they go out Bran Yeah, and it's that's being

738
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Speaker 1: talked about in the UNBC Virginia category of upsets in

739
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: college basketball for a variety of reasons. That's a stain

740
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Speaker 1: for Calipari. And and listen, Kentucky fans on social media,

741
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: arl A, listen, is this guy done? Are we over?

742
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Are we? Are we over? Calipari? It seems a bit much,

743
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: but they're angry, you know. Listen John. I've known John

744
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: for forty plus years. We were nineteen years old. We

745
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: met at Dean Smith's basketball camp. Okay, so I admire

746
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: what he's done. He's in the nament Hall of Aim already. Um,

747
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: and he won't won't necessarily listen to me, hopefully listens

748
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: to straight fire. You don't get some nothing. Yes, yes,

749
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: but I thought, you know, I thought his team overachieved

750
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: during the big during the SEC season. I severe Wheeler.

751
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: Dave On Mints, who was a role player at Creighton,

752
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: God bless him. I mean, he probably had an amazing

753
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 1: run at Kentucky just being a part of Big Blue Nation.

754
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: Kellen Grady, who you know was a good player at Davison,

755
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Jacob Toppin was a role player at Rhode Island.

756
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: I mean, giving a break here. He actually did a

757
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: great job with this team in the regular season, and

758
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: they're they've got a great recruiting class coming in. I

759
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: think he pivoted back to taking some transfers, but he

760
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: didn't take other than Oscar Sheeway. I might add, I

761
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: don't necessarily, and Kellen Grady did have a good year.

762
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: I think they've got to evaluate better than they did.

763
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 1: They had a terrible year last year. This year was better,

764
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: but the loss was killer, and I think his coaching

765
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: staff has got to evaluate the transfer portal. But hitting

766
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: the home run on Oscar, no question about it. I

767
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: think he'll be National Player of the Year in a

768
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: number of places would an award whatever. But um, I

769
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: don't think the talent level was as good as everybody

770
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: thought it was. I'm curious uh NBA draft. It's not

771
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: a big name but thy thy Washington. Everybody's given this

772
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: guy love. I watched him. I'm like, he's he's a

773
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: good player. I don't. I don't know. Friend. What am

774
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: I missing here? Is this guy taught like a top

775
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: ten is the East NBA starting point guard in your book?

776
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: Another guy. I haven't really do douging on Jason, but

777
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, Um, since July on, now,

778
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: if you add up all of them out drafts, Um,

779
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: there's been about eighty kids going the first round. You know,

780
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: It's amazing how guys put a kid in the first

781
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: round and then a week later they moved them back

782
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: down into the second was it? I get it, I

783
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 1: get I'm not. I'm not criticizing some of those guys

784
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: do a good job. Um, But I I stopped talking

785
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: draft this year during the season because I was getting

786
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: out of hand with it. So I'll start to dive

787
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: in on Tie Tie and these other guys. But what

788
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 1: I really feel, what's unfortunate is every single kid who

789
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: gets his name on a mock draft, and if you

790
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: add the second round, that's like a hundred and fifty

791
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: guys for sixties spots. Every one of their families thinks

792
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: that kid is gonna be in the NBA, and it's

793
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: really sad. In many ways. We all love kids going

794
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: to the league. Okay, I coached eighteen of him, and

795
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: some of those guys made great money. But um, I'm

796
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: not gonna do that as much anymore. Where we see

797
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: a kid in jazz, like you know Kai Jones, I said,

798
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: I said, I had. I saw Kai Jones at eighteen,

799
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: the Texas big guy. Yeah, and you know Kai, I

800
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: saw him when he was eighteen at camp in Italy.

801
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: I pumped him up. Then he went to Texas. I

802
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: pumped him up some more. Nobody had him in the draft,

803
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: in the mock draft in December. The next thing I

804
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: know in February, he's a lottery pick. Okay, and you

805
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: haven't heard of Kai Jones this year because he's been

806
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: in the G League for for Greensboro, and so you

807
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: gotta be really careful. He's rich, no question, he got

808
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: the first round money. But I I hate I'm gonna

809
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: really be careful about how I hyped these guys because

810
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's dangerous. I mean, we could do this

811
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: for an hour. I want to ask about like Jalen

812
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: d during the kid from Memphis who you know, it's

813
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: it's good. But I watched Mark Williams of Duke, and

814
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, why would anybody take During ahead of Mark Williams.

815
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: I don't care that During's eighteen and Williams twenty one.

816
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: You know, I know age matters to these teams, but

817
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: to me, I mean, I mean, we've already talked about Williams,

818
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: but like During is extremely limited for him. I don't

819
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: know how much you saw of him. Like this Memphis

820
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: stuff is ugly. It sounds like everybody's got to get

821
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: the hell out of there. I mean, Bates disaster. I

822
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: watched him. I watched the train wreck earlier in the year. Okay,

823
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: it was a train wreck, and to Penny's credit, he

824
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: got them playing. And Jalen During is gonna be who

825
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: he is, which is in the league. If you're a

826
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: big man who can run, block shots and rebound, you'll

827
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: have a place in the league. He's very raw offensively,

828
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: he got better, but he's big enough and athletic enough

829
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be, you know, relatively high pick because

830
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: he fits the mold of that type of NBA big

831
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: man where we're not throwing it to you in the post.

832
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: They because we're four out, just get on the dunker

833
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: spot and if it comes to you, dunk it on

834
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: the other end, block shots and rebound and we'll pay

835
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: you a lot of money. Okay. And Bam out of

836
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: Bio came into the league that way. Obviously Bam evolved

837
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: into more and Jalen, but right now that's what Jalen

838
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: is that But he's Bam out of Bio as a rookie.

839
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: But and apparently a good kid too, which I you know,

840
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: I think does that's good? And I hope it didn't

841
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: come across Yeah, I hope yeah, yeah, yeah. And I

842
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: would say this about the last ten years of draft,

843
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: by and large, the kids I've met and dealt with

844
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: and covered in on ESPN, really good kids, man coming

845
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: into the league the quad. You don't hear a lot

846
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: of nonsense anymore in the NBA about guys getting in trouble.

847
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah you know who wasn't that got stuck in the

848
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: in the in the club and got beat up? Um

849
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: you remember that about a year ago that oh shot

850
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: the kid from the kid from USC right that was

851
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: Kevin Porter Jr. Maybe Oh geez, yeah, he's he's had

852
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: some issues That's what I mean. Occasionally have a kid

853
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: that they'll take a chance on and hopefully Kevin straightens

854
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: things out. But a great offensive player that Kevin Porter.

855
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and um, but you know, these kids coming

856
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: to the league are really good kids. Because the league,

857
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, you can argue about whether you like Russell

858
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: Westbrook or he's getting screwed, or you know, whether you

859
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: like you know this guy or that guy. But By

860
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: and Larne, the superstars in the league are really good guys.

861
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: We'll wrap up with Arizona. I was fascinated by this team. Yeah,

862
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: co Loco incredible. I like him a thury. I mean Benedict,

863
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with this guy's game. Friend. First of all,

864
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: can he be a top five pick? Because I think

865
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: when I watch him, and I'm not just looking at

866
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: the TCU get because I know he wasn't great against Houston,

867
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: but he is electric, you mind, kind of a Victor

868
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: Oladipo slashing, can hit the threes. He shot shot well

869
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: from deep. Am I too excited for for Benedict? Well,

870
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: I think I think I saw him last week in

871
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: person in uh in San Antonio when they got knocked out. Uh,

872
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: let me just check here because in my mind, they

873
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: got they got beat by Houston, and I gotta tell you,

874
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: Houston punked that whole team. They did they and they

875
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: punked Ben and they punked everybody because like Ben Matherin

876
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: had a terrific year. I think, what to me he

877
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: is right now is an athletics spot up shooter. Um.

878
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't think Ben dribbles it real well yet and

879
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: um pick and roll I Q average. Yeah, I think

880
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: he's a top ten pick. I think somebody could take

881
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: a chance on him in that top five or six

882
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: range after j n Ivy at three or four. But

883
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: I was surprised that Ben um was a non factor

884
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: against Houston. But Houston will do that to you. But

885
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: oh by the way, if Houston does that to you,

886
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: they can do that to you in the league. Well yeah, yeah, friend,

887
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: you know this, like he had it. He had thirty

888
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: against TCU, the dunk of the tournament. That's gonna be

889
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: all over one shining moment Like that was the game

890
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: where I'm sure for four days afterwards his family he

891
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: was getting inundated by runners. Hey we got you in

892
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: the top five and and and the focus wasn't there

893
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: is that f safe to say, yeah, but I think

894
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in the top five or six anyway.

895
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: He's already done enough. His resume is built, and uh,

896
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: you know he's still had fifteen against Houston, but he

897
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: didn't shoot the ball well four or fourteen, But no,

898
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: I would I was nitpicking at the fact that he's

899
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: got to dribble it a little better. But he's six six,

900
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: he can shoot it. He's athletic, he's terrific in the

901
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: open court um. His ball skills have to improve a

902
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: little bit more, but no question, he's gonna go high.

903
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: And uh. I was surprised, however, that he lost his

904
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: composure a little bit against Houston, but Houston can do

905
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: that to anybody and getting your five cards. His resume

906
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: has been built and it's really solid. What about his teammate,

907
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: the kid who's a bit of a sleeper to me,

908
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: Terry date Dylan Terry, Yeah, kind of a skinny wing.

909
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: I like the skill set. You didn't see he didn't

910
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: do a ton, but you can just see there's something there, Like,

911
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: would you advise that kid, hey man, come back to school,

912
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: first team All pack twelve. You know, you put up

913
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: twenty a game or what ever. I have looked at

914
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: the recruiting class Terry He's going to get a look

915
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: in the NBA though, right, you know we were? Yeah,

916
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: I think so what what he who? He reminds me of? Uh?

917
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at his shooting numbers here, Um, you know,

918
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: gotten gotten better. He's uh thirty six percent from three.

919
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: He only took seventy seven shots. I'll tell you who

920
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: he reminds me of. But this guy was much older

921
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: and more mature. Terrence Man. Wow, from far from Florida State.

922
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: The Terrence Man that came into the NBA four years

923
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: with Leonard Hamilton's who's a maestro right at getting guys

924
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: ready for the league. And um, that's who Jalen reminds

925
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: me kind of maybe like a Royce O'Neil jack of

926
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: all trades, plays winning basketball, you know, makes defensive plays,

927
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: could play make a little bit, gotta shoot it, you know.

928
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: I think even better to become one of those guys.

929
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: But I love his game. He's a connector. He's a

930
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: guy that connects his teammates to their strains. And I

931
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: think he was really valuable. I would advise him. Listen,

932
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: every one of these guys can take a look at

933
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: the league because you do it and still come back

934
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: to school. Yeah, that's the beauty that you go for it. Man,

935
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: And if someone gives you a guaranteed that you're gonna

936
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: go into late first or hey, by the way, my favorite,

937
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: my favorite saying in mock draftees, Oh yeah, we got

938
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: them between twenty and how much money is there every

939
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: except for the top five, Every guy in this draft

940
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: is between twenty And you say that as a mock

941
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: draft guy, You're you're safe. Yeah, you're you're hedging your bets.

942
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: By the way, go great, Terrence Man, call and France again.

943
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: I keep asking extra questions. Sorry, Terrence Man is playing

944
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: phenomenal ball for the Clippers. He was outstanding in the playoffs.

945
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: Why is there a stigma against these twe two year

946
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: old kids coming who spent too long in college? I mean,

947
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: Man is, guess what, ready to contribute to a playoff

948
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: team as he did last year? Uh? Why are NBA

949
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: teams so weird like that? Well? I think you know

950
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: the first thing they're doing is they're trying to get

951
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: long term as talent as good as they can get it.

952
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: So you're gonna take the eighteen nineteen or old kid?

953
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: Who is it? The two kids from Baylor. You know,

954
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: I love them both, Jeremy Soahan and Kendall Brown. Yeah,

955
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: those two jokers don't tone. They don't turn nineteen until May,

956
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: both of them. You know what I mean. So you

957
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: understand when you look at those guys, you go a minute.

958
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: Jeremy Jeremy so had only had eight points against TCU

959
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know. Kendall Brown, I saw him against Kansas.

960
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: How come he didn't only have you know whatever? But

961
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: they're eighteen and you look against year old. Yeah, and

962
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: you're looking at him, and what are they get like now?

963
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: Having said that, you also have to win games in

964
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: the NBA and and and teams are gonna look at

965
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 1: guys like Terrence Man, you know, like the older guys

966
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: that come into the league, like a Royce O'Neil, like

967
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: a Buddy field Kemp coming in at a as a senior,

968
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, in college, and so many other guys. How

969
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: about Davion Mitchell who really was in college four years

970
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: who was killing it now it's unbelievable. And you know

971
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna like those older guys too. I think it's uh,

972
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: you cannot put all your eggs in one basket as

973
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: you're building an NBA roster. Yeah, I love it. I

974
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: look at wish we could be in the front office

975
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: together build a team. By the way, here here's a

976
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: fun one for you. People will be like, oh, Buddy,

977
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: he'll come on. That guy's not that good. He's not easy,

978
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: a disappointment. He's been in a league for four years

979
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: for and he's made forty million dollars. Uh, and he's

980
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: got a lot more coming his way. So like it's

981
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: just so weird. Huh. You know, I say, Buddy, he'll

982
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: because my other son played with Buddy and that's right Oklahoma. Yeah,

983
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: And and you know, and when Buddy was a freshman,

984
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: he was barely top one hundred. And then as a sophomore,

985
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: I said, I probably said it on TV. He'll get drafted.

986
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: I said he'll get drafted his junior year. I said,

987
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: this guy's got a chance to be in the first round.

988
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: And Buddy Hell could have came out. After his junior year.

989
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: He went back to school and he became a six

990
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. And by the way, some people

991
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: don't like his game, just go ahead and see how

992
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: many threes he's made. In four years. Yeah, so wait

993
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: did when he stayed did they go to the Final

994
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: four that year? Or that's right, they got smoked by

995
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: somebody badly and I got beat by Villanova, that's right. Yeah,

996
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: that's Villanova a crush Remember Villanova lost to them in

997
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: Hawaii on the in the Pearl Harbor game that year. No,

998
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: we got crushed by that. But my point is you

999
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: can criticize Buddy Hell, but you can't criticize what he's

1000
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: done because I think like in the history of the game,

1001
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: there's only like one or two people who have made

1002
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: more threes in the in the early part of their

1003
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: career than Buddy. My whole point is if you can

1004
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: get older guys that can come in and play right

1005
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: away and help you win, you know, you got to

1006
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: do that too, because we're taking some of these guys

1007
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: as we know, and they're not helping you win, like

1008
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: Jalen Suggs. God bless him, he's been hurt this year.

1009
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: He is not helping the Magic win. Just either is

1010
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: Franz Boer and he's gonna be a good player. Yeah,

1011
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: I will say freyn I you don't listen every day, obviously,

1012
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: but you are. You get all the credit on this

1013
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: pod for the Desmond Bain call two years ago coming

1014
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: out of TCU. What a what a find. He has

1015
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: been a revelation from Memphis. And I don't know how

1016
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: much you watch the GRIZ, but you know, I don't

1017
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: know that he's the leading trash talker on that team.

1018
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: He's not backing down from anyone. He's in Lebron's face.

1019
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: He's talking trash to anybody. And this Memphis team, friend,

1020
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: they're they're exciting. I know, I know. I'm gonna tell

1021
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: you something that's another four year guy Desmond vain right, Yes,

1022
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: indeed on Monte Morris and Monte will tell you all right.

1023
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: And and honestly, I'm not just I'm not bragging here.

1024
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: I just know these kids so well. But I'm gonna

1025
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: tell you this about Desmond Baine. He may be the

1026
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: best human being I've ever been around. Wow, other than

1027
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: my wife and kids. Desmond Baine. You know, Desmond Baine

1028
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: was raised by his grant great grandparents, not his grandparents,

1029
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: his great grandparents in Richmond, Indiana. He had zero high

1030
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: major offers until Jamie Dixon offered him. And what I

1031
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: love about my job is seeing Desmond Bain when he's

1032
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: a sophomore. Buddy Healed, George Niang, Monte Morris, Uh, DeVante Graham,

1033
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: You go on and on, and I love saying this

1034
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: kid's got a chance and you'll not find a better

1035
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: human being in the world. In Besmond. He's the most

1036
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: popular athlete to play a TCU probably since Ladamian Tomlinson.

1037
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: M hmmm. And that's incredible. That's how good a kid

1038
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: he is. And and I loved it he's talking trash

1039
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: because that's not his off the court person out. Yeah. Well,

1040
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean maybe it's brash, maybe it's not trash. By

1041
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: the way, Final final, final, final question. Uh, teaching Big twelve.

1042
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: Give me a guy in the vein of Monte Morris,

1043
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: Desmond Bay. He's gonna crush it and shock everybody. Um

1044
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 1: is it the kid the color from from Texas Tech.

1045
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's a pro. I just

1046
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: love watching. I'm gonna give you somebody right now, let

1047
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: me get him. Let me get to my Big twelve

1048
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: list here and I'm gonna give you somebody. Uh Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma,

1049
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: IWA State. Uh, if you want to go miles from TCU.

1050
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Speaker 1: A lot of people like him. Yeah, Mike's a good

1051
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: Mike's a good young player. He reminds me a lot

1052
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: of Frank Nation. But what Frank did that my that

1053
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: Mike has done yet? And he's a beautiful kid. Is

1054
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Speaker 1: I don't think Mike's ready to be I think Mike

1055
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: right now honestly would be a G League player. But

1056
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: I it Mike goes back to school and continues to

1057
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: do what he's doing. He could be National Player of

1058
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: the Year as a junior senior. But um, I would

1059
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: advise him to go back. And Kevin McCollough I love

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Speaker 1: to death, um, but he's always been hurt and if

1061
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: he can stay healthy, he's a chance. And uh, Baylor,

1062
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: Uh just looking at them. You know, Baylor's got some

1063
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: guys coming in that can really play. Man. Remember Kyante George,

1064
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: remember that name. Okay, he'll be the he'll be uh.

1065
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: They he's compared to Bradley Beale, and Baylor is not

1066
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: going away anytime soon. There they are revoting Baylor's stock

1067
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: in stock billing. All right, Yeah, I the Fox is

1068
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: making me right. The best teams to win the NBA

1069
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: College Basketball TP two. So I have been going through recruiting.

1070
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Speaker 1: I haven't got to Baylor yet. I have Arkansas high up.

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00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: You laugh, But the Craton Blue Jays are stacked next year. No,

1072
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: I love I love their team. I love you okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know. I of course I can't love him that

1074
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: much because my son's of Illanova. Yes, I O. Villanova

1075
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: has great respect for their for their team, and I

1076
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: love their team. And Greg McDermott is an offensive genius,

1077
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: so I love their young talent. You know, Nemhart got

1078
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: hurt unfortunately called Brenner. You know, Uh, the kid that

1079
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: came in and played cooking guard for them. What about Coloma, Yeah,

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00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: he crushed Kimbas Coloma. You know, I think he's from Uganda,

1081
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: pays on the Uganda national team. Yeah, that guy's got

1082
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: an NBA future. Anyways, all right, friend for Sella, we

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00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: went way long. I'm sorry. I know you've got an

1084
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: I T busy week and you're rooting on your son

1085
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: at Villanova. Hey man, thanks for the time, the great

1086
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: friend for Sheila. Uh, enjoy the spring. Friend, always a

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00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: prep pleasure, Jason, catchup and we'll talk draft in a

1088
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Speaker 1: couple of months. Yes, all right, man, Thanks Man,