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Speaker 2: were joined by Blake Meyer. He is a writer and

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Speaker 2: contributor for Fantasy Pros. He has been doing the Weekly Planner.

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Speaker 2: He does our waivers article, So we're gonna be talking

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Speaker 2: to him about some players to consider dropping, if you're

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Speaker 2: adding anybody off waivers, and is it time to move

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Speaker 2: on from some of these names.

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Speaker 1: So we will get into that in the second half

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Speaker 1: of the show.

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Speaker 2: As always, we start with rounding the bases, though, And

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Speaker 2: first off, what I want to ask about is is

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Speaker 2: Dylan Cease true fantasy ace back? We obviously saw what

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Speaker 2: he did a couple of years ago. What he really

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Speaker 2: genuinely was a true fantasy ACE two twenty era fourteen wins,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty seven strikeouts, one eleven whip. That

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Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty two. Last year his ERA was

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Speaker 2: four or five eight. He did still have over tw

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Speaker 2: hundred strikeouts. Whip was much higher as well at one

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Speaker 2: forty two. So as we entered this draft season there Cease.

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Speaker 2: The twenty twenty two season looked like the outlier. Right

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Speaker 2: now here in twenty twenty four, he's looking very good again.

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Speaker 2: He's three and one for the padres I was just

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Speaker 2: the first year with San Diego. He's three and one

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Speaker 2: one eighty two ERA zero point seven to four whip.

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Speaker 2: He's got thirty five strikeouts in twenty nine and two

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Speaker 2: thirds innings. That's across five starts. Just kind of before

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Speaker 2: we dive into maybe any of the advanced data, just

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Speaker 2: hearing those numbers, seeing that, you know, maybe it's now

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Speaker 2: two twenty twenty three is looking maybe more like the

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Speaker 2: outlier at least in the last three years.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that he is back as a true

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Speaker 1: fantasy ACE?

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Speaker 3: So, I think I think it's early, and I don't

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Speaker 3: know that we can say definitively that he's back as

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Speaker 3: a true fantasy ACE. I was buying Dellancy's everywhere coming

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Speaker 3: into the season. I was not expecting him to be

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Speaker 3: this good. I was hoping. You mentioned twenty twenty two

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Speaker 3: being kind of the breakout year, and then last year

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Speaker 3: was a down year. But you know, we talked about

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Speaker 3: him a few weeks ago and it was still a

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Speaker 3: reason I was very in on him was because the

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Speaker 3: price had gunned down because of his four or five

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Speaker 3: r right last year four point five eight ERA. That's

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Speaker 3: a hard one to say in order there last season,

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Speaker 3: but his spect the numbers were better and he had

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Speaker 3: over two strikeouts, and as we talked about, like that

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Speaker 3: many strikeouts in fantasy is it's so hard to come by,

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Speaker 3: especially from from one pitcher like this. So I to

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Speaker 3: be determined if he's a fantasy ace. I'm not expecting

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Speaker 3: him to be. I'm not expecting a sub to Era

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Speaker 3: the rest of the way. But for someone who bought

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Speaker 3: low this draft season so far, fantastic return on investment.

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Speaker 1: I'm not expecting a sub to e Ra the rest

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Speaker 2: I am expecting, quite honestly, to be a fantasy ace,

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Speaker 2: given how many aces were losing right and left, like

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Speaker 2: I think he will be, you know, one of the

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Speaker 2: top guys you know moving forward. I mean just even

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Speaker 2: looking at the game logs, Like the worst start of

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Speaker 2: runs in four and two thirds inning. Every other start

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Speaker 2: and every one of those starts he had at least

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Speaker 2: seven strikeouts. He doesn't have a double strikeout, double digit

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Speaker 2: so he's been consistent, which is hard to find right now,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's been giving you innings, which can.

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Speaker 1: Be hard to find.

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Speaker 2: He's not hurt yet, which you know, you could say

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Speaker 2: that about literally any pitcher.

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Speaker 1: But I mean he's been pitching well.

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Speaker 2: And it's not like the competition has been you know,

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Speaker 2: he hasn't faced the White Sox.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't faced like the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: It's been the Giants, it's been the Cubs, it's been

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Speaker 2: the Brewers. He did face the Rockies in his most

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Speaker 2: recent start. That's the one like pretty pretty terrible team there.

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Speaker 2: But I mean he's been very good. He did have

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Speaker 2: of just reading off the you know, the game log

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Speaker 2: stuff there a little bit more his his expected era.

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Speaker 1: I think I just lost it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a two nine to five, so it's

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Speaker 2: obviously higher than what it is, but sub three, you know,

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Speaker 2: I might be rambling a bit at this point. I

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Speaker 2: just think he's going to be a good pitcher. And

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Speaker 2: I was with you in draft season. I was very

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Speaker 2: happy to get him at the price he was going at,

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Speaker 2: and that looks all the better now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that whip. The zero point seven and four

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Speaker 3: So there's a little bit of luck there. You know,

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Speaker 3: you talk about the expected numbers, they're all between two

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was hoping for, kind of splitting

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Speaker 3: fantastic first month. There's a little bit of luck. There's

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Speaker 3: Babbitt's roll low average against is very low, but his

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Speaker 3: kind of earned luck. So to be determined if he's

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Speaker 3: if he's an ace, but like you said, with the

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Speaker 2: The strikeout rate is slightly higher than it was in

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Speaker 2: that twenty twenty two breakout.

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Speaker 1: Walk rate slightly lower than it was in that season.

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Speaker 2: You know, the barrel rate he is giving up twelve

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Speaker 2: point one percent is his barrel percentage. It's been six

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Speaker 2: point two in each of the last two years, so

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Speaker 2: that's like almost double. But that is the number that

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Speaker 2: it's early, and you know, could easily just be a

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Speaker 2: small sample size thing. The average exit velocity that he's

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Speaker 2: allowing is actually a bit up as well, so there's

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Speaker 2: some degree of like not concerned, but like you know,

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Speaker 2: you maybe are a little hesitant to dive all the

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Speaker 2: way in. He's actually only eleventh percentile amongst pitchers and

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Speaker 2: average exit velocity given up, But by and large it's

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Speaker 2: again given the state of pitching, this is a picture

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Speaker 2: that you are just going to start every week and

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Speaker 2: be very happy that you got him at the price

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Speaker 2: you did. I think, I mean, you're certainly I would

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Speaker 2: expect double digit wins again. I'm definitely expecting two hundred

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Speaker 2: plus strikeouts again, assuming health So if you're gonna give

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Speaker 2: me like like fourteen ish wins and two hundred strikeouts

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Speaker 2: and an era even like under four, let alone under three,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm super happy with that. So I will

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Speaker 2: call him an ace, even if it's not like you know,

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Speaker 2: O sp One overall type of ace. Speaking of kind

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Speaker 2: of aces and guys who have been like very very

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Speaker 2: strong Fantasy starters in the past, just quickly.

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Speaker 1: Is Max Freed turning things around? I wanted to at.

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Speaker 2: Least mention him because he has been so so bad

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Speaker 2: to start the year and then last night through a

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Speaker 2: complete game shout out. Now, that was against easier competition

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Speaker 2: in the Marlins. But you know, do you think I

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Speaker 2: don't know how much of that game specifically you watched.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that you saw either watching that game

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Speaker 2: or in the numbers that makes you think he could

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Speaker 2: be turning things around from this again just like horrific,

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Speaker 2: horrifically slow start that he's had to the season. Or

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Speaker 2: was it just a case of they faced the Marlins

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people are gonna have pretty good

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Speaker 3: So probably, I mean, I'm you definitely can't discount the

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Speaker 3: not just talking about a bad opponent, We're talking about

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Speaker 3: a bottom three opponent and one of the worst opponents

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Speaker 3: in the last few years. You know, they're off to

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Speaker 3: a horrific start. They the White Sox and the A's

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Speaker 3: and if you look at his numbers, he's already had

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Speaker 3: two good starts. His first start he didn't make it

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Speaker 3: got lit up by the Diamondbacks. And then his third start,

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Speaker 3: decent starting against the Astros, who are really surprisingly really struggling.

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Speaker 3: With the Astros, you've don't talk about them five innx

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Speaker 3: three and runs. And then last night dominated the Marlins.

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Speaker 3: I think that was also a maddox too. I think

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Speaker 3: it was less fewer than one hundred pitches. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: just you really want to see it, because it would

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Speaker 3: be more concerning if he didn't dominate an opponent like that.

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Speaker 3: But you do have to say, Okay, this was the Marlins.

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Speaker 3: That's a good step in the right direction. We'll see

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Speaker 3: how it looks going forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'd like to reference my you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of like an encompassing number for some of these

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Speaker 2: and obviously scoring, you know, numbers are different for every

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Speaker 2: different format, but to put a number to this, in

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Speaker 2: those two starts against the Marlins, he has about fifty

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Speaker 2: four fifty four point eight Fantasy points combined. On the season,

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Speaker 2: he has forty six Fantasy points combined. He's been negatives

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Speaker 2: in that league in every other start that didn't come

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Speaker 2: against one.

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Speaker 1: Of the three worst teams of baseball.

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Speaker 2: So I guess like to ask you for something actionable

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Speaker 2: after what we saw last night. Was that good enough

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Speaker 2: that you would start him again if you had him?

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's not a guy, he's too talented to drop, right,

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Speaker 2: But like, are you starting him or is he still

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Speaker 2: kind of riding the bench unless he's facing the Marlins

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Speaker 3: So because of how really it is, I don't know

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Speaker 3: that I roster him anywhere, but if I did, because

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Speaker 1: Are we worried or not?

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Speaker 3: let's just not let Raphael Deevers beat us, especially now

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Speaker 3: So there's concern there that the lineup around him is

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Speaker 2: He's facing a lot more breaking balls this year, for

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Speaker 3: Other than he's not hitting the fastballs. He's not hitting

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I just not seeing as many of those.

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Speaker 3: I kind of avoided it. Probably about a five, and

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Speaker 3: of this is just he's old now and he's not ancient.

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Speaker 1: He's younger than me.

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Speaker 3: He's still thirty six, but those numbers are bad, like

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Speaker 2: which is a scary thought. Yeah, I think. I mean,

435
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 2: it's too early to say like he's officially washed, right,

436
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 2: But like I'm my canser level is very high. First

437
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,880
Speaker 2: base is not the strongest position. Where would you rank

438
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 2: him at first base? Rest of the season, Like, even

439
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 2: with it not being a strong position. It's not a

440
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 2: spot i'd be like pretty comfortable ranking him highly.

441
00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. I have to look at

442
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 3: my r I just because it's so thin and because

443
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 3: I have him in a couple of places, so I

444
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 3: want him to be better. So there's some kind of

445
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 3: you know, there's some self fulfilling prophecy there where you know,

446
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,120
Speaker 3: I believe in the bounce back because I need him

447
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,400
Speaker 3: to bounce back. But their early numbers are bad. And

448
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 3: let's see, let's see where I have him.

449
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 2: He's seventh in the expert consensus rankings on the site

450
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 2: for rest of season.

451
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 3: It's gonna have to go down. I have him at

452
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,439
Speaker 3: ten so far, and I'm he's gonna have to go

453
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,919
Speaker 3: below that. And yeah, well you know, I still have

454
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 3: Tristan Kassas in the in the top twelve, and that's

455
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 3: gonna have to go down too, because it sounds like

456
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 3: he's going to miss some time and like not just

457
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 3: a little bit of time. Yeah. The problem is that

458
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 3: after him, there's not a whole lot.

459
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 2: Yeah who is it that you look at? But you're like,

460
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 2: oh boy, I can't wait to move this guy up instead.

461
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the Andy Diaz, who's also off to a

462
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 3: really bad start, not as bad, but not great, And

463
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 3: you know, you kind of have a pretty clear ceiling

464
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 3: there with the Andy Das. I really like Christian and

465
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 3: Karnacion Strand, but again not off to a great star.

466
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 3: I do like his power potential and he did, you know,

467
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 3: look like he's warming up recently spent ratorical sin. I

468
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 3: don't love that. He's going to have to be Josh

469
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 3: Naylor's got to be, you know, a top ten first

470
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 3: baseman for sure, given what he's done over the last year.

471
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Speaker 1: Where do you have Annie Pasconino ranked?

472
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 3: So I have Vinnie pas Quarantino at twenty, and he

473
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 3: probably has to go up.

474
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: I like, I like there's a huge gap between where

475
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: you have him ranked and gold Schmidt, But like I

476
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 2: would think it's even honestly, like, depending on the format,

477
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 2: a reasonable question of like who would I rather have

478
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: this season? Like that is a degree of my concern

479
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 2: with gold Schmidt. Do you think that's unreasonable?

480
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: My only thing with Pascarantino is we haven't ever seen

481
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 3: it for a full season, and he's dealt with injuries

482
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 3: of his own, and there's a lot of projection there.

483
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: You know we're we're always projecting him to take the

484
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 3: next step. We've never actually seen it, though, and so

485
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 3: I worry what the ceiling is there and what we're

486
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 3: going to get. I wonder if even a slightly washed

487
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 3: Paul Goldschmidt still gives you twenty home runs, maybe you

488
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 3: don't get it twenty home runs or many Pats Squantino,

489
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 3: and so that's.

490
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: I don't think it would be crazy to continue to

491
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: have gold Schmid ahead of him. But I think that's

492
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Speaker 2: a type of guy that I would be debating in

493
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 2: my mind if I who I would want more. That's

494
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: the level to which I think Goldschmid is falling off.

495
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 2: And I really like Paul Goldschmith, so I hope that

496
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 2: I'm wrong and he kind of bounces back better than

497
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: I expect him to. Let's go to another hitter here,

498
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 2: Corbyn Carroll, who was obviously going as a you know,

499
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 2: first half of the first round, back half of the

500
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 2: first round type of guy depending on your league.

501
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Speaker 1: Not the age of Paul Goldschmit.

502
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: He is very young, he's twenty three. Obviously superstar season

503
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 2: last year. He does have eight stolen bases, just one

504
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: home run. He's hitting two thirteen on the season. His

505
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 2: ops is under six hundred and similar to gold Schmidt,

506
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: in fact, even worse. In a lot of cases. The

507
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 2: stackass data it does not look good. Is average exf

508
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 2: last he sees eighty three point six miles per hour

509
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: third percentile on the season. His hard hit rate he's

510
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: under twenty five percent. Obviously, like you know, he's fast,

511
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: he's going to give you Stonlee bases when he's on.

512
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: Strikeout rate is down, but a very poor start, particularly

513
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: relative to the draft capitol you almost certainly paid to

514
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: get him on your team.

515
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's another one with that shoulder that there's

516
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: a real concern that has you know, zapped a lot

517
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 3: of his power because we saw the breakout with twenty

518
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 3: five home runs last year, but we also saw and

519
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: have seen that he's been a different player since he

520
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 3: dealt with that shoulder injury. And that's where I get concerned,

521
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: especially because I have him in a bunch of places,

522
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: and I have him in a keeper league where I

523
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 3: sold that the trade deadline last season and gave up

524
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 3: some you know, when it looked like I wasn't gonna win,

525
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 3: I gave up some pieces to get a affordable Courbyn

526
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: Carrol keeper. And that's in that aforementioned league where I'm

527
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: lacking power and I could, you know, I could use

528
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: more than one. Not that I was banking on a

529
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: ton of power from Corbyn Carrol to begin with, But

530
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 3: when a guy goes twenty five home runs fifty four steals,

531
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: you'd like to bank on twenty plus home runs for

532
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 3: that guy the following following year, and maybe thirty plus steals,

533
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: which would be a fantastic year. Again, like you said,

534
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: still has eight stolen bases. That's you know, that's helping

535
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: keep him in in my lineup, because if I if I,

536
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 3: if he was batting two fifteen with one home run

537
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: and one stolen base, now we're talking about potentially sitting

538
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 3: him on my bench for a little while. But the

539
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: stealing bus, the still stolen bases are keeping him in there.

540
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: Ex of velocity, very concerning, hard hit percentage, very concerning,

541
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: like you said, a lot of blue on a statcast

542
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: page and a few concerning spots of extremely blue. And

543
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 3: he's still walking, he's still stealing bases, so he's still going.

544
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:44,719
Speaker 2: To do that.

545
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: We're we're recording this on Wednesday this week, and he

546
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 3: was batting seventh today. Don't love that. Don't love to

547
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: see that from the Diamondbacks especially. You know, they're not

548
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: just like a team not trying to win that or

549
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: they're just trying to move move him around. This is

550
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: a team trying to compete. And they said, Corbyn, Caryl,

551
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: you are in the seventh hole now, So don't love that.

552
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 3: As a fantasy manager and as a fan of Corbyn Carrol,

553
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: so you really hope he can bounce back. But I

554
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 3: am worried about that shoulder.

555
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: That is a good note that we're recording earlier this week,

556
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: just so everybody knows, since we typically tape this on

557
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: Thursday that if anything happens on Wednesday night or what

558
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: have you, depending, I'm not sure when exactly we'll get

559
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: this released, but you know, this is a little bit

560
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: earlier in the week than usual because of the NFL Draft.

561
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 2: You know, with Carol, he was in that group of

562
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: there was a very clear top nine outfielders in draft season,

563
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 2: any significant gap between the top nine and everybody else.

564
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: He was ranked fourth ish in summer. I mean you

565
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: could different rankings out of different spots. That was kind

566
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: of a commonplace. I saw him behind Acunya, Bets and

567
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: maybe Julio. That's where he is in our rest of

568
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: season rankings currently on the site with the consensus. How

569
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: far down, if at all, are you moving him? But

570
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 2: I'm assuming still within that upper nine or with somebody

571
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: like I mean like Trout. Obviously, given the start that

572
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: he's been on, would you rather have him than Carol

573
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: going forward rest of the season?

574
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 1: Is that an overreaction?

575
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: Where are you placing him in that hierarchy when he

576
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: was so clearly in the non Acuna Tier one going

577
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: into the draft season.

578
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: So I haven't dropped him too much yet. I had

579
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 3: him as four coming in the season. I still have

580
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: him around six or seven, But I do when I

581
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: do these rankings, I do try not to overreact and

582
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: try to wait until we have like a full month

583
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 3: of sample before I start making significant moves. And we're

584
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 3: still about a week away from that, so I want

585
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: to wait till the first week of May before I

586
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: make any kind of drastic changes to my rankings. I'm

587
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: still tweaking every day based on performances, based on injuries,

588
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 3: based on everything that's happening in the news. I'm still

589
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: holding out hope that he just kind of turns it around.

590
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: But I've already you know, I think I had him

591
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: at four coming into the season. He's at like five

592
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: or six or seven now, and that, you know, you

593
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: have to you know, I'm gonna have to bump up

594
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: on Sodo given the start he's side for the Yankees.

595
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's not looking good for him to rise

596
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: in my rankings. He's gonna fall. But again, those Slear

597
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: bases are gonna help as long as he can, you know,

598
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: because there's a world where he just hits done home

599
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: runs and gets the average back up and still steals

600
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: forty bases and scores onto runs and that's still very valuable.

601
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: So we can't just write them off completely. But the

602
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: power is what we're concerned about. And right now the

603
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: average as well.

604
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: Let's go to Randy or Rose Arena. Two home runs

605
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: he does with four stolen bases one fifty four average.

606
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: His OPS is four fifty three, so obviously very very bad.

607
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: The average exit velocity is seventy fifth percentile.

608
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: It's over ninety miles per hour.

609
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: A lot of the other numbers are are not that good,

610
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: you know, below fiftieth percentile in terms of expected WHOABA

611
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: and you know it's hard hit rate.

612
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: It's just above fiftieth percent.

613
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 2: It's at forty point six percent, barrel rate forty fifth percentile.

614
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: His fifth percentage is eleventh percentile. So you know he's

615
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: chase rate is seventy three percent. That's you know a

616
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: little bit of a difference there, but essentially, you know

617
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: has been bad. You know, is the is the main

618
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: takeaway from that is he somebody that you maybe have.

619
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: A higher degree of concern about.

620
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: His expected wOBA is like, like, his wOBA is two twelve,

621
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: it's very, very bad.

622
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: His expected WILBA is only two eighty nine. It's like

623
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: not good. It's still under three hundred.

624
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: You know, strikeout rate is up over last year, it's

625
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: up a twenty seven point three percent. I would say

626
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: that my concern level on him is somewhere between Goldsmid

627
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: and Carol.

628
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not as concerned about him because I wasn't

629
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: as high on him coming in. Not that I'm down

630
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: on him, but I just think he has, you know,

631
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: some warts as a hitter, and he just feels like

632
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: someone who who goes through these stretches where he you know,

633
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: when he gets hot, he is insanely hot, he also

634
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: gets cold. He's kind of a rollercoaster of a batter.

635
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: And so I really think unless there's more about an

636
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: injury that we don't know about, I really think this

637
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: is more of just like him getting off to a

638
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: slow start, and that like as the spring and summer

639
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: goes on, he's going to heat up and be what

640
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: he normally is. So I'm still holding out faith that

641
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: we're dealing with a slow star and a small sample size.

642
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: And I and you know, like, he's not gonna hit

643
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: three hundred, that's just not who he is. But he's

644
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: probably not gonna hit one fifty four either. He's probably

645
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: gonna end up hitting around two fifty, hitting twenty home runs,

646
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: stealing twenty plus bases. And that's what you drafted him ass.

647
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: And so he already has two home runs, four stolen

648
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: bases still on pace. You know, for twenty twenty, you

649
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: just want the batting average up. You wanted to cut

650
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: down on the strike up a little bit, get on

651
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: base a little bit more. Obviously, you don't want to

652
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: sub three hundred Wilba. You'd like that to be a

653
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: lot higher. Bad bit one ninety four. So he's getting

654
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: a little bit of bad luck too. It's not all earned.

655
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: Bad luck is a little bit of bad luck. The

656
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: doural percentage way down, like you said, and swing strike

657
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: percentage up a little bit. Not to repeat everything that

658
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: you've already said, but yeah, I really think this is

659
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: just a slow start.

660
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: I think that's fair.

661
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: I was with you too draft season, where like, he's

662
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: not somebody that I was like drafting in every league

663
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: because I loved the value or anything like that. So

664
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: it's not like too harmful to me that he's starting

665
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: off slow or too too surprising, given you know what

666
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: we've seen from him in the past. He's whiffing a

667
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: ton on breaking balls forty three point one percent. Just

668
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: to note that, let's move on to the last hitter here.

669
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge obviously, somebody who has been a Fantasy super

670
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: duper star in the past, you know, even last year,

671
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: even though it was a step down for twenty twenty two,

672
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: still obviously a very very good hitter ops over one thousand.

673
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: This year, not so much. His average is one eighty,

674
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: his ops is just six sixty three. He's hit three

675
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: home runs. Somebody who has had injury stuff in the past,

676
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: obviously with Aaron Judge. You know, the average exit velosity's

677
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: always going to be super high, and so well his

678
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: max exit velocity on the season. A lot of the

679
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: other numbers are somewhat concerning though. You know, the strikeout

680
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: rate is basically in line with what it was last year,

681
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: Walk great a little bit down, hard hit rate down significantly,

682
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: and a lot of the expected numbers are down pretty

683
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: significantly from last year as well. Expec's batting average, expected

684
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: slugging expected wOBA all way down over.

685
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: What they were last year. He is thirty one.

686
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: I know he got a later start to his career

687
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: in terms of the age, so you might think of

688
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: him as a little bit younger. There was actually a

689
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: really interesting tweet I saw making the rounds yesterday with

690
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: a graph about batter swing speed and just on average

691
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: when it tends to go down, and you know, it

692
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 2: fluctuated a bit in the early years, and the degree

693
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: to which it goes down in the later years fluctuated too.

694
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: But like the big point that on average it goes

695
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 2: down is age thirty one. I'm not saying that Judge

696
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: again is like washed or anything, but I thought that

697
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: was an interesting graft too. I've seen and then turn

698
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: around and be talking about a guy who is struggling,

699
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: you know, in the first month of the season only

700
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: still but at age thirty one. Is there anything specifically

701
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: you've seen out of Judge that has you overly concerned

702
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: or do you think this is more just along the

703
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: lines of a slow start for a guy that we

704
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: can have pretty good faith will bounce back.

705
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: Well, real quick, I feel bad because you said thirty

706
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: one about five times in that monologue. Turns thirty two

707
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: in two days, so he's still thirty one. I actually

708
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: do this weekend.

709
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: I did not know when his birthday was, so that's good.

710
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: Didn't help.

711
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: But so thirty two ancient and ancient thing.

712
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: And by the time people listen to this, you might

713
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: actually be thirty two already.

714
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: So right, yeah, that's true. Turns thirty two on Friday.

715
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: So if you're listening to this on Friday, happy birthday,

716
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: Aaron Judge. Sorry, we're talking about your slow start. Yeah,

717
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: there's always a concern with Sorry, there's always a concern

718
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: with him with injury, just because he's getting older, but

719
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: also he's enormous. He's just an enormous human being, which

720
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: was my concern going into that contract. With the Yankees too.

721
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: We're talking about a guy wh's six foot seven, two

722
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five plus pounds. He's just a gargantuan

723
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: human being, and those players do not age gracefully. And

724
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: there's a lot of years to go still on that contract,

725
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: but again, don't know for sure if there is any

726
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: kind of injury. Still a small sample size, and he's another,

727
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: you know, not in the same realm of Randa or Sarana,

728
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: but he's you know, he can be streaky. We've seen

729
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: him go cold before and then we've seen him go

730
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: ridiculously hot and hit sixty two home runs before. So

731
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: he's someone who can lock in and just go bananas.

732
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: But he's also someone who I think, just from a

733
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: kind of mechanics standpoint, because he is so big and

734
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: because you know, he not that he has like a

735
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: big swing. He has a pretty compact swing for his size,

736
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: but he seems like someone who always has to be

737
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: very conscious of his mechanics because things can easily go

738
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: wrong because of how big he is. And I just

739
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: feel like he's in a funk right now, and he's

740
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: going to get hot, it's going to warm up, and

741
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: as long as he stays healthy, he's going to go

742
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: into hot streak and these numbers are going to be

743
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: what they normally are. So I'm not overly concerned, but

744
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: I do think, you know, it's just a slow start

745
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: in Islam for him.

746
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: He was also in that kind of tier of nine

747
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: at the top of the outfield rankings going into draft season.

748
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: Would you have him at maybe the back end of

749
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: that group of nine?

750
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: Now would you have him out of there?

751
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he's like, would you rather have Mike Trout

752
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: or Aaron Judge the rest of season?

753
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: I think is an interesting question.

754
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I know personally, like there are at least

755
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: a handful of those outfielders in that tier one that

756
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: I would definitely rather have than Judge. And that's only

757
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: slightly because of what we've seen this season, you know,

758
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: in terms of the slow start. But I think it's

759
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: reasonable to ask about guys like Trout if you'd rather

760
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: have them over Judge.

761
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good question, especially because I'm always

762
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: I always seem like I'm down on Judge because of

763
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: the injury concerns. But we're talking about Mike Trout, We're

764
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: talking about the king of injury concerns, so it's hard

765
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: to kind of discount one and not the other just

766
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: because he's so much bigger. But Mike Trod is also running,

767
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 3: so that kind of, you know, closes that gap. I

768
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: still think pre may, I don't have Trout above Judge

769
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 3: just yet, but I do have them kind of closing

770
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: the gap. Whereas you know, Trout was probably in the

771
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: teams maybe you know, early twenties. Now it's you know,

772
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: Aaron Judge's top ten and maybe Mike Trout twelve. Like

773
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: the gap is getting smaller.

774
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: I want to quickly run through some pictures in our

775
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: next topic here and basically just ask real or not

776
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: real for what we've seen from them this season two

777
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: varying degrees. These names are guys that have outperformed expectations.

778
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: Some of them have looked like absolute studs, others have

779
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: just kind of been better than expected.

780
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: But I want to kind of ask real or not real?

781
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: And you know, when I asked that, obviously you understand this,

782
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: but just so everybody else understands, I'm not asking like,

783
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: is this guy's era at you know, one twenty going

784
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: to stay there? But just is kind of the development

785
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: slash breakout slash, you know, outperforming expectations and looks like

786
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 2: a good draft day value is that, you know real

787
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: when looking at these guys. So we'll go quickly through

788
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: these because they're not necessarily stars. I don't think we

789
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: need to spend a ton of time on Paul Blackburn

790
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: is one of them.

791
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 4: Now.

792
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: It's interesting because I put his name in here before

793
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 2: we saw his start on Tuesday of this week against

794
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: the Yankees. I actually, like specifically didn't pick him up

795
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: in a weekly league where I was considering him as

796
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 2: a two start pitcher because of his matchups this week.

797
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: We're tough, and obviously it didn't go well against the Yankees.

798
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't the worst start of all time. He did

799
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: go six innings, just five strikeouts, no walks, but he

800
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: did allow four earned runs in that start. He allowed

801
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: three earned runs against the Cardinals in his last start.

802
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: He had not allowed a run in any of his

803
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: starts prior to that. So it may be that wheels

804
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: are coming off a bit already here and that kind

805
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: of answers are question for us.

806
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: What do you think about Paul Blackburn? Real or not real?

807
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: The overall numbers to start the season, which by the

808
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: way I will say is a two oh three era,

809
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: just twenty three strikeouts and thirty one innings and as

810
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: zero point nine to seven whip.

811
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 3: So it was funny when I saw you put Paul

812
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: Blackburn in the sheet because if you listen to leading off,

813
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: this is someone I've teased Joe about for years now

814
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: because he's done this before, not to this extent, but

815
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: he's gone on like some MANI good runs in the past,

816
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 3: and Joe has recommended, oh like pick him up until

817
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: the wheels fall off. And so now like whenever Paul

818
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 3: Blackburn does anything that's very good or very bad, I

819
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 3: just taged Joe on Twitter and just say, hey, here's

820
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: your boy, or anytime they bring him up on leading off,

821
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: I'm always right there on YouTube comments, Hey Joe, there's

822
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: your boy, Paul Blackburn. And so I've really tried to

823
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: hammer home the fact that this is Joe Pisapiaz's favorite pitcher.

824
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: So we'll see I don't necessarily buy into this, to

825
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: be completely honest, here, the one thing he seems to

826
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: he's one of those guys that throws six pitches, which

827
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: makes me nervous a little bit. You know how I

828
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: love Zach Eflin. I love Zach Bethlin's pitch mix, but

829
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: I do get to concern when a guy throws six

830
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: pitches and he throws all six of them at least

831
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: ten percent of the time. So he's throwing all of

832
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: these pitches fairly often. He has really cut down on

833
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 3: his sinker, which you know wasn't a great pitch for

834
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 3: him in the past, and so you kind of like

835
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 3: to see that. But in terms of like staying power,

836
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: I just, you know, don't. I don't really see it.

837
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: And even if he is going to be better, he's

838
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: still on the ace for now. Yeah.

839
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: Those first three starts, by the way, came against the Guardians,

840
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: the Tigers, and the Nationals, So as we early in

841
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 2: this season, especially when you're dealing with small sample sizes,

842
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: I think it's very worth noting stuff like that. And

843
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: then you know, like I said, the last two starts,

844
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: four runs against the Yankees, just three runs in five

845
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: and two thirds against the Cardinals, which isn't even that great.

846
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: But he also walked five in that game, so I

847
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 2: would lean towards not real I'm not I'm not gonna

848
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: actually sit on the fence.

849
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say definitively, I would say not real.

850
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: Next one's Jared Jones, who is somebody that was definitely

851
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: of interest to folks, particularly in dynasty leagues coming into

852
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: this season. The swinging strike rate has always been really impressive,

853
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: his ability to induce whiffs and even just like the

854
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: strikeout rate itself, thirty four point eight percent this year,

855
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 2: so he has been very good in that respect. Thirty

856
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: nine strikeouts in twenty nine innings. He is a two

857
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: seven to nine ERA and zero point eight three we have,

858
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: so Jones has been very good. I think if you're

859
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: talking in a keeper format or a dynasty league, he's

860
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: somebody that it's reasonable to be very excited about. And

861
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: I'm not really questioning real or not real in terms

862
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: of is he a valuable pitcher in Dynasty to whatever

863
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: degree pictures can be valuable in Dynasty.

864
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm more asking for this season, is.

865
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: He real or not real as a reasonably high end

866
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 2: starting pitcher. You know, going through the rest of the season. Obviously,

867
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: you know, those twenty nine innings came in five starts,

868
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: so it's not like he's consistently going deep into games.

869
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: He's young.

870
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: The Pirates aren't really incentivized to push him to his

871
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: limit this year. So I think there's a real case

872
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: to be made that by the back half of the

873
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: season they'll be skipping Star. It's maybe even considering shutting

874
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: him down. I think he's really talented. I don't think

875
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: he's going to be one of the best pitchers in

876
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 2: baseball the entire season as a twenty two year old.

877
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: So I lean towards real, but maybe not sustainable. What

878
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: do you think about that?

879
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've been thinking about this one because he's

880
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: also someone who passes the eye test. You watch him,

881
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: you see the gifts on on Twitter, you see the highlights,

882
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: you see what he does to you know, Bryce Terrang

883
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: with his slider and just you know, sends it.

884
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: He's a real picture where you expect to see him

885
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: on Pitching Ninja, like you're you're gonna see that clip

886
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: later on.

887
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, I have. I've had the same concerns. I've

888
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: kind of toyed with the idea maybe he's a cell

889
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 3: high just because he looks so good and because he's

890
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: taken such a massive step forward. You know, this is

891
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,959
Speaker 3: a guy who had a four point seven to eer

892
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: and triple a last year. How did he turn into this?

893
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: What has he done to turn into this pitcher? And

894
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: we don't really have enough data other than to finsally

895
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: say one way or another other than the eye test

896
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: and that his stuff looks fantastic. The one thing I've

897
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: kind of hedged because my immediate thought was what you said.

898
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: I don't know how many innings he's gonna throw, and

899
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: there's a chance he gets shut down late in a season,

900
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: which is especially concerning if you play in head to

901
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: head because you're just not gonna have it for the playoffs.

902
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: He has thrown at least one hundred twenty innings of

903
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: two straight seasons now, so there is a little bit

904
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 3: of room there. So between Double A and Triple A

905
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: he threw about one hundred and twenty something innings, and

906
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: then even in Single A and twenty twenty two he

907
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: threw one hundred and twenty two and two thirds innings,

908
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 3: So maybe you can get one hundred, thirty hundred and forty.

909
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: The Pirates have already been very careful with him. You

910
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: mentioned he hasn't got very deep into games. I think

911
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: one of those games he threw five innings and it

912
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: was fifty nine pitches. And they pulled him. They were

913
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: just like, all right, we're good five innings and that's

914
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: good and bad. It's obviously not great for your counting

915
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: stats in fantasy. But maybe that's the way he pitches

916
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: into August, and maybe if that's the plan, maybe you

917
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: can you know, maybe there's something there. I don't know.

918
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: It might hurt his chances for wins. It's not hurting

919
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: his strikeouts. He's had at least seven strikeouts in every

920
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: start this season, so it's still even if he's not

921
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: going deep into games, he's getting that. He's an interesting

922
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: guy in that He's expected era on statcast is two

923
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: nine to seven and his ERA is two seven to nine,

924
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: so they're very close, even with him kind of outperforming

925
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: expectations to start the year. So really really fun to watch.

926
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'll kind of lean towards real, but

927
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: I'm questioning how sustainable it is at least for twenty

928
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: twenty four, not you know, long term. Obviously you would look,

929
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: you know, very excited about him. Spencer Turnbull UH one

930
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 2: twenty three ERA. He's two and zero on the season,

931
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: twenty two strikeouts and twenty two innings. His whip is

932
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: under one He's made four starts so far this year.

933
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: Has expected DRA is much higher than his RA, but

934
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: his RA is so low that its expected ERA is

935
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 2: still under three, even being you know, more than double

936
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: what is era is? Turnbull is thirty one. You know

937
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: this is unless he's turning thirty two soon like Aaron Judge.

938
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: I don't know when Turnbull's birthday is, but he's thirty

939
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: one right now.

940
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: You're good to September?

941
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: Okay, excellent, obviously not somebody you know doesn't have the

942
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: pure stuff of a Jared Jones is not, you know,

943
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: something that we're overly excited about in Dynasty, like we

944
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: might be for Jones.

945
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: But it's been good to start the year.

946
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: I know he's somebody that Joey p has touted on

947
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: our social media accounts as pick up you know worthy

948
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 2: already here early in the season, real or not real?

949
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: This start for Spencer Turnbull.

950
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: So I'm really intrigued by Spencer Turnbull. My my biggest

951
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: concern is really not real versus real, And it's easy

952
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: going to stick in the rotation, and I feel like

953
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: we're at a point where the Phillies almost have to

954
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 3: because of how good the results have been. But they

955
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: do have tiwe Walker coming back, and they do have

956
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: Zach Wheeler, Aronol Rangers Suarez the best butcher baseball ranger

957
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: Swars and Christopher Sanchez. So where does he fit in?

958
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 3: You would think he should just be over Ti one Walker,

959
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: but the Phillies gave Timeon Walker a big contract and

960
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: he's probably going to be in that rotation. And they're

961
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: almost at the point where they're like, you know, the

962
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 3: Phillies are not hoping for Spencer Turnbull to like turn

963
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: back into a pumpkin, but they're really kind of slow

964
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: playing Tyon Walker's you know, rehab. They're like, ah, do

965
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: one or two more starts in the minors, and you know,

966
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 3: we'll see how things are walking, you know, and then

967
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: Spencer Turnbule goes out and has another good start. The

968
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: one thing, and I think we talked about this briefly

969
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, is that he's throwing a

970
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: sweeper now, and his sweeper is having really good results.

971
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: He's got a batting average below one hundred of point

972
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: zero nine to one and in expected batting average at

973
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: point one ninety four. And I'm not one hundred sure

974
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: if it's just a brand new sweeper, or if it's

975
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: just a reclassification and a tweak of his slider, he

976
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 3: is still throwing a slider, at least according to stadcast.

977
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: That could just be a classification thing. I don't know

978
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: for sure if he's actually throwing both pitches, but at

979
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: least this, you know, he is throwing a sweeper now

980
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 3: by definition, and it's doing really well. And so I

981
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: like to see a change like that, something you can

982
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: point to. And I think we've talked about that before.

983
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: So I don't know how real he is, but I

984
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: am intrigued, at least in the short term.

985
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to Ranger Suarez.

986
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: You you just reference best pitcher in baseball, And I

987
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: know we talked about him a decent about last week,

988
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: so we don't need to spend a lot of time

989
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: at him, but I wanted to at least mention because

990
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: he had another really good start. Obviously last week we're

991
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: coming off that complete game shutout against the Rockies. This

992
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: week we're coming off against the Reds. Seven innings, two hits,

993
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: no runs again, one walk, five strikeouts. So he continues

994
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: to be excellent. He really had the one. If he

995
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: start again, you know, the Braves. Obviously, we have already

996
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: talked about the teams he faced when we talked about

997
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: it last week, and I, you know, hilariously misspoke, which

998
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: I'm still thinking about. But he's been really good for

999
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: three straight games, and he was also good at least

1000
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: in one game before that.

1001
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: So I mean, you're you're looking.

1002
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: At what is it, twenty two straight innings without a

1003
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: run allowed.

1004
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: You know, he had eight strikeouts and back to back games.

1005
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: Prior to this past outing it was just five strikeouts,

1006
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: but has been has been really you can't say enough

1007
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: good things about how he's looked in the last few starts.

1008
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: And the stack cast data is pretty you know, aligned

1009
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 2: with that. You know, his expected ERA is under two.

1010
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 2: All of his numbers are in you know, the top

1011
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: ten percent or better in the league.

1012
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: So not all, but the majority of them on stack

1013
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: cast are.

1014
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna ask you real or not really

1015
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: see the best pitcher and baseball, but real or not real?

1016
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: Is he a very good fantasy starter going forward or

1017
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: just a mirager really in the season?

1018
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: Uh? In between I think you know, you know my thoughts.

1019
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 3: I feel that he's just very solid and very underrated

1020
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: in the fact that he's solid and if you look

1021
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: at you know, talk about out liars, last year was

1022
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: an outlive for him. So as era is one point

1023
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: thirty six, without looking do you know what his era

1024
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 3: wasn't twenty twenty.

1025
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: One, I'm gonna guess it's the same the way he.

1026
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: Raised one point three six. So it's exactly the same

1027
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: and similar kind of expected numbers too. They're they're all

1028
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 3: slightly higher. Ground ball rate significantly up and if you

1029
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: look at in previous years, he had a really high

1030
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: ground ball rates between like fifty one fifty nine percent,

1031
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: and in last last season his only you know, his

1032
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: really his only down year the last several years, it

1033
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 3: was about it was below fifty percent. It was forty percent,

1034
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 3: which is still relatively high groundball percentage, but for him,

1035
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: that kind of led to some bad results and that's

1036
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: why his ERA was over four. And so now he's

1037
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: back up over fifty nine percent. His hard hit percentage

1038
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 3: is basically cut in half. And again we're talking about

1039
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 3: a small sample size, but I don't think he's going

1040
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: to pitch to a one point three six ERA again,

1041
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: even though he already did it over one hundred and

1042
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 3: six innings and twenty twenty one, but I think you're

1043
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: going to just get a solid pitcher of the rest

1044
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: of the season as long as he says something.

1045
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 2: Last picture here is Reid Garrett, which is just a

1046
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: fun one and the surprising one. And you know that

1047
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: listener that I've referenced a few times that has occasionally

1048
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 2: DMed me about the show was at one point recently

1049
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: was like, what is going on with Reid Garrett? Like

1050
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: is this thing real? Is he going to be an

1051
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: opportunity for hold? Maybe even the occasional save he has

1052
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 2: one already obviously, you know, you know Edwon Diaz is

1053
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: in that bullpen, so there's not going to be a

1054
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: ton of say, opportunities barring something really unforeseen.

1055
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: But here he's three and oh this season out of the.

1056
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: Pen zero era is we get to allow a run

1057
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: twenty one strikeouts in just ten and two thirds innings.

1058
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: So the strikeout rate has been obscene. In fact, his

1059
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: k rate is one hundredth percentile on stack cast at

1060
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: fifty one point two percent. His whiff rate is forty

1061
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: five point nine percent, so also quite high. All the

1062
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: expected numbers are like top five percent in the league.

1063
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: Expected batting average, top one percent expected slugging top one percent, WHOA,

1064
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: BUTA top four percent expected WHOABA top one percent, has

1065
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: expected ERA top one percent. It's at one point two eight,

1066
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: So he's been awesome. What something I really like to

1067
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: do when I am trying to build out my fantasy

1068
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: roster early in the season is identified the bullpen breakout guys,

1069
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 2: And historically, I think one of the best ways to

1070
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: do that is like just guys who strike out a

1071
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: ton in you know, a small amount of innings, and

1072
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: who also don't walk too many guys. His walk you know,

1073
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: walk percentages is down a little from last year. Again,

1074
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm kind of rambling a bit, but like, what do

1075
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: you make of re Garrett? Is he worth a pickup

1076
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: given how good he's looked, or given the fact that

1077
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: he will pretty much always be blocked from getting saves

1078
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 2: in New York?

1079
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: Is he not worth a pickup?

1080
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, I don't have a whole a

1081
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: lot of thoughts about Raev Garrett, but I knew who

1082
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: he was because of what he's doing. Not really sure

1083
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 3: where this came from, because he is an ancient thirty

1084
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 3: one years old, you know, we like to talk about

1085
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: these really old thirty one year olds, and even if

1086
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: you look at if you just go to like his

1087
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 3: his stats, it's it's even hard to look at his

1088
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 3: stats page because there's so many stops in minor leagues

1089
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 3: along the way, and just like you just basically just

1090
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: have to delete those and look at the major league stats,

1091
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: and what you're left with is some very not good

1092
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 3: appearances in the major league level. The one thing, you know,

1093
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 3: you know, I like, my favorite thing to do is

1094
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: I like to look at the pitch mix. The one

1095
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: thing is, despite having what seems to be a really

1096
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: good fastball last season he threw it over ninety six

1097
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: miles an hour, he's not throwing it as much anymore. Well,

1098
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: last year it was his primary pitch over thirty two

1099
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: percent of the time. Now it's down around twelve point

1100
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 3: nine percent of the time, which is kind of what

1101
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 3: we were seeing when we talked earlier in the year

1102
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 3: about those Red Sox starting pitchers where they're just not

1103
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 3: throwing fastballs, they're just leaning on their off speed stuff.

1104
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: And it looks like he's throwing a slider and a sweeper.

1105
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: So he's not one who ditched one for the other.

1106
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 3: He's kind of throwing both, and so he's throwing a slider, sweeper,

1107
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 3: and split finger, all more than a four steamer, and

1108
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: he's also throwing a sinker. And it seems like that

1109
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: sweeper is his best pitch because it currently has a

1110
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: point zero zero zero batting average. No one has hit

1111
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: the sweeper yet this year. And again we're only talking

1112
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 3: about ten innings, so extremely small sample size, but fun story.

1113
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 3: I don't really know what to do with this other

1114
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: than like, if you have him in holds leagues, go

1115
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: for it, like make him a priority. Add you might

1116
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 3: a lady be rostered and holds leagues. Not sure how

1117
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: many saves is going to get unless that when Di

1118
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: guys gets hurt, good ratios if you can use him

1119
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 3: for you know, in a daily league or something like that.

1120
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: But for now, it just seems like a fun story.

1121
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: It seems like someone who kind of figured something out.

1122
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: Maybe a pitching coach just said, hey, stop throwing that,

1123
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: know that fast fastball, because even though you throw it fast,

1124
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: people are still hitting it. So maybe uh, lean on

1125
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 3: your other stuff. And so far, so good.

1126
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: Last topic here for Round of the bases, and we

1127
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: could be quick on this one. I posed a question

1128
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: via a poll last night on my Twitter account at

1129
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 2: Ryan Warmley on Twitter that's warmly, like how you dress

1130
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 2: one's qute outside.

1131
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: You've never mentioned my Twitter on this on the show.

1132
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 2: No, And in fact, I think that's the first time

1133
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: I've mentioned mine as well, followed Mike Mayor at Mike Mayor.

1134
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: I actually didn't look it up. It's just at Mike Mayor.

1135
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: Right.

1136
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: That's right, O, guys, there's no there's no fun little

1137
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: thing like mine has of warmly.

1138
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people with my exact name, so

1139
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 3: you got to be first on all these new platforms.

1140
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: So I had at Mike Mayor back in like two

1141
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: thousand and nine, and you know there's a lot of

1142
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 3: other Mike Mayor's I wanted, you know, we were in

1143
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: some group chats together.

1144
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1145
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: So anyways, on my Twitter account at Ryan Warmley, I've

1146
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: put I posted this poll of our umpires actually getting

1147
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: worse or do we just talk about it slash notice

1148
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: it more now because we know we have you know,

1149
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 2: video review and challenges in the minor leagues as alternative options,

1150
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 2: let alone you know, the strike zone overlays on every

1151
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 2: broadcast and whatnot.

1152
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: And I kind of just posted the poll because I

1153
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: was just curious.

1154
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: I see this conversation seemingly every day about look at

1155
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: this egregious miss, not just by Angel Hernandez, but by

1156
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: lots of umpires, and it gets highlighted immediately when there's

1157
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: some terrible call. And I've seen it a lot with

1158
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: the Orioles this year, and there's a degree of bias there,

1159
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: I'm sure, but just in like, Oh, Gunner Henderson gets

1160
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: rung up with two runners on base, and oh, immediately

1161
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: it comes out on MLB game day. Look, this pitch was,

1162
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: you know, a foot outside or whatever it was. So

1163
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask and kind of see what people

1164
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: thought about it, and it got some responses from some

1165
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: of the guys at Picture List. Alex Fast replied to it.

1166
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: Chris Towers from CBS shared his opinion. So there seemed

1167
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: to be some degree of interest in this conversation, which

1168
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: is why I wanted to bring it up again. I

1169
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: don't think we need to do a whole deep dive

1170
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: on it, but before I kind of share what the

1171
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: results were and what those guys had said, I'm wondering

1172
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: what you think about that question.

1173
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 3: I don't know that they're getting worse. I think we're

1174
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: we're just noticing more. I think they've always been pretty bad.

1175
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you one of my pet peeves and

1176
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: in a second, but I think, like you said, we

1177
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 3: have pitch lays everywhere, we have stad casts everywhere, and

1178
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: to a certain degree, I can kind of empathize with

1179
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: them that, Like you know, sometimes we're talking about like

1180
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 3: half an inch or an inch or two inches of

1181
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: a ball going one hundred miles an hour and they

1182
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: get it wrong, and you know what happens. What's a

1183
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 3: little bit more egregious is when you throw out a

1184
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 3: manager because a fan said something. That's a little bit

1185
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 3: more egregious when that happens. And so there is that

1186
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: would never certain yeah never, but uh and that does

1187
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: really annoy me when when umpires kind of make themselves

1188
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 3: part of the show. Big pet peeve that has been

1189
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 3: going on in baseball for decades, maybe hundreds of years

1190
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 3: is I'm and I'm you know, I'm hoping kind of

1191
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 3: the roboump revolution solves. This is like when you get

1192
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 3: a certain umpire and it's like, oh, he calls a

1193
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 3: low strike zone or he calls the outside strike zone.

1194
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 3: The strike zone is the strike zone. We don't need

1195
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: to have your own unique strike zone. Everyone has the

1196
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: same one. I don't know why, like we have to

1197
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: do that all the time. So that is my pet peeve.

1198
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: But overall, I don't know that they're getting worse. I

1199
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 3: just think we're noticing more. You know.

1200
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: I did always say when I played baseball growing up

1201
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: that I didn't really care what the zone was as

1202
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: long as it was consistent called for both teams. And

1203
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: then I if, hey, if you're calling the low strike

1204
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: in the first inning, you better be calling it in

1205
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: the in the seventh inning. I feel differently about it,

1206
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: I guess as a fan watching than I did as

1207
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 2: a player, where just knowing what I was getting into

1208
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 2: was really beneficial.

1209
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: So both both Alex and Chris, when they.

1210
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: Responded, pointed out articles, one from Pittreless actually and the

1211
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: other one pointing out a chart that was supposted to

1212
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: Reddit just yesterday umpires are actually objectively provably based on

1213
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 2: the data, getting more accurate at calling balls and strikes

1214
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: than ever.

1215
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: So I found that to be really eye opening. Not

1216
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: that I.

1217
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 2: Would have necessarily doubted that if you told me, because most,

1218
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: just most areas of society, we get better as we

1219
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: move along and have more information and better training and whatnot.

1220
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 2: But I think it's eye opening relative to the conversations

1221
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: I see on Twitter seemingly every single night, I don't

1222
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 2: think most fans would a realize that or be maybe

1223
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: even believe it that it's happening more and more. The

1224
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: calls for robo umps are louder and louder every week,

1225
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: it feels like, but they are getting better now. What

1226
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 2: was interesting about one of these charts is the top

1227
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: five most accurate umpires are getting better. Overall is getting better,

1228
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: even the bottom five. The floor is raising. Angel Hernandez

1229
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: has his own line and is going down, so he

1230
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: is getting worse. And I do think the egregiousness of

1231
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: Hernandez and some of these clips that you see of

1232
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: these missed calls from him, I think that might skew

1233
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: things in people's minds.

1234
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: And again, the instantaneous.

1235
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: Ability to know the exact degree to which these calls

1236
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: are egregious, I think colors it in the minds of

1237
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 2: most fans because it's so apparent when the miss is

1238
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: really bad, but they are actually getting more accurate, and

1239
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: I found that to be really fascinating. The poll, by

1240
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: the way, was almost exactly two thirds of folks saying

1241
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: that they think we just notice it more and one

1242
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: third saying that you know, they are actively actually getting worse.

1243
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: But again, that's that's kind of provably false based on

1244
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: the data.

1245
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 3: That's great to hear, especially you know, Angel Hernandez is

1246
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 3: out there every day.

1247
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: Somebody, somebody on the Reddit post said, Okay, we have

1248
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: the Mendoza line for hitters, and now we have the

1249
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: Hernandez line for for umps. Uh, because he does certainly

1250
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: stand out. All right, let's jump into our segment with

1251
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: Blake Meyer. We will be right back in just a second.

1252
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: Welcome back into the cycle. We are here for our

1253
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: guest segment, joined today with Blake Meyer. He is at BULLOCKEYE.

1254
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: Is that what you said Blocke for his Blocke? I

1255
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: almost had it that that's b U h h l

1256
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: O c k A y E on Twitter. I knew

1257
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: I was gonna get it wrong. I even asked before

1258
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 2: the show, and I still got it wrong. So that's

1259
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: that's impressive by me.

1260
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: Blake is a contributing writer of course with Fantasy Bros.

1261
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: Also at Picture List and with Fake Baseball Podcast, so

1262
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: he's all over the place. You can find him there

1263
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: and also on Twitter, where I'm not going to pronounce

1264
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: it again. We wanted to have him on to talk

1265
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 2: about some players that we might be thinking about dropping.

1266
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: I think that's always a really interesting conversation, particularly when

1267
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: you get to about a month into the season. Everybody

1268
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 2: kind of has a different time frame, you know, in

1269
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: their own leagues, of when is the right time to

1270
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: move on from guys, And we talk a lot on

1271
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: the show about, you know, players to pick up.

1272
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: In fact, we're going to do a waivers segment with Blake.

1273
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: You know at the end of this segment, But who

1274
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: are you dropping to make room for those guys that

1275
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: you're picking up off waivers? That doesn't get as discussed

1276
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: as much as the guys that you're adding. So I

1277
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: wanted to really run through a handful of names here

1278
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: that I think are at least worth bringing up. And

1279
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: some of them might be difficult to answer, some of

1280
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: them might be an easy yes, some of them might

1281
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: be an easy no. But I want to at least

1282
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: ask the question for a lot of these guys. So

1283
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: this is a list that we kind of compile together.

1284
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: We will jump right into it here and Blake as

1285
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: the guest, I will start with you, Ken Tamata.

1286
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: Are we considering dropping him?

1287
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm all in on dropping Kentamida at this point.

1288
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 4: Every year, it just kind of kind of seems to

1289
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 4: the hype of what could he be coming into this season.

1290
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 4: We all remember what he was a few years ago

1291
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 4: when he was actually a legitimately good starter, and now

1292
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 4: he just seems to be a guy that not only

1293
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 4: gets hurt every year, but can't stop.

1294
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: Giving up the long ball.

1295
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 4: And when you've got a guy that's not gonna get

1296
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 4: you consistent innings every year, He's only pitched barely over

1297
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 4: one hundred innings the last two years, and I mean

1298
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 4: this year he's given up I think it's like a

1299
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 4: two and a half home runs per nine, which is crazy.

1300
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 4: It's just he's not He's not consistent or good enough

1301
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 4: for me to want him in any league at this point.

1302
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: So I'm all in. I'm dropping Kenttomaida.

1303
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: Eer just under six his whip has won three seven,

1304
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: He's gone twenty two and two thirds innings, just seventeen

1305
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: strikeouts in that time, fifteen earned runs in that stretch.

1306
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: Mayor Kentta Mayeta dropping holding what if you see him dropped,

1307
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: would you consider picking him up and taking a flyer

1308
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: on him if you have the Room's.

1309
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 3: League is league dependent for me, And I actually included

1310
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 3: this name because I asked about it on Twitter the

1311
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 3: other day because I am I have him in a

1312
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 3: league and I'm just like you know, struggling over the

1313
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 3: idea of dropping him, and not just because I got

1314
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 3: into that bidding war with Dan Harris and I don't

1315
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 3: want Dan to pick him up if I drop him.

1316
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: That is a contributing factor though, But it is a

1317
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 3: league where, like you need pitching volume, and so it's

1318
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 3: it's that kind of league where I'm still kind of

1319
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: holding on. I did bench him this week, and I

1320
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 3: didn't get his five shout out running shout out innings

1321
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 3: against the A's not as egregious as the pitcher you

1322
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 3: didn't start this week, but at least it was a

1323
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 3: bounce back start, you know, running in the right direction.

1324
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 3: There is injury concerns, performance concerns. I'm still holding unless

1325
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 3: it's the shallow league where you don't have a ton

1326
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: of spots or don't need a ton of pitching, But

1327
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 3: in any kind of twelve man or more league, where

1328
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 3: you need pitching volume. I'm still holding out a little

1329
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: bit longer, but I'm very.

1330
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: Close to Yeah, Blake.

1331
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: What Mayor's referencing is I'm the dummy who sat Max

1332
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 2: Freed this week because I was like, oh, he's been terrible.

1333
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: If you got a four start, his only good start

1334
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: was against the Marlins, not even like caring about the

1335
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 2: fact that it started this week is also against the Marlins.

1336
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: So that h came back to bite me big time.

1337
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: Let's go to the next player to drop O'Neil Cruz,

1338
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: and Mayor, I think you said somebody asked you this

1339
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: on Twitter, right.

1340
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the only I wouldn't even consider including him

1341
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 3: except that I saw him. I saw I'm mentioned in

1342
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 3: another drop question and someone actually asked me, should I

1343
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 3: drop O'Neil Cruz. No, no, you should not. I don't

1344
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 3: care that he has thirty seven strikeouts, second most in

1345
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 3: Baseball mun qualifying hitters. I love, that's not great, but no,

1346
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: the ceiling is still there. The ceiling is still incredible.

1347
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 2: Do not drop on him two thirty seven average OPS

1348
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: is six thirty eight. He's got three home runs, two

1349
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: stolen bases on the season.

1350
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: Like Mayor mentioned, the thirty seven strikeouts. It was interesting.

1351
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: Is his bapup is three point fifty eight and that's

1352
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: you know, only brought him up to an average of

1353
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: two thirty seven on the sea. He's in blake. What

1354
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: do you think about O'Neil Cruz? And is this for

1355
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: you also an easy no? As I imagine it probably

1356
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: is a very easy no. He's too too good of

1357
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 2: an all around player. And I mean, he struggled lately,

1358
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: but he's faced good pitching teams at Philadelphia, at the Mets,

1359
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 2: at home against Boston Milwaukee.

1360
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 3: I think he just faced Freddy Parolta, So he.

1361
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 4: Faced like actual, legitimately good pitching staffs, which a lot

1362
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 4: of guys struggle.

1363
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 3: And so early in the year, you can't drop on

1364
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 3: Neil Cruise.

1365
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a unanimous across the board.

1366
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: Don't even consider it. Do not drop on Eil Cruise.

1367
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 2: The next one Jackson Holliday obviously near and dear to

1368
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: my heart as an Orioles fan. He did finally get

1369
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: his second hit just last night recording to Wednesday, so

1370
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: Tuesday night he got his second hit of the season.

1371
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: There was a graphic that the MLB account shared on Tuesday.

1372
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: This week as well.

1373
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 2: That was showing kind of some of the rough starts

1374
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: for some of you know, like past Hall of famers.

1375
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 2: In fact, multiple Orioles like col rip And was like

1376
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: one for twenty five to start his career. Brooks Robinson

1377
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: was like two for thirty. There's been a lot of

1378
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: guys who have had slow starts. Jackson going into last night,

1379
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: I believe, was one for thirty. So after last night

1380
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 2: he's something like two for thirty four thirty five. Uh,

1381
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: I am not dropping holiday, but if they're if I'm

1382
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: in a shallow league where there is a really you know,

1383
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: particularly enticing option that like I have this injury elsewhere

1384
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 2: I need to pick him up, I'm willing to, but

1385
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm not like, Okay, moving on, go find somebody. He's

1386
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: at the top of my cut list certainly like that.

1387
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: What do you think, Mayor.

1388
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I'm in a similar boat. It's it's a

1389
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 3: rough beginning, it starts.

1390
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 2: It's not just the two for thirty five or whatever

1391
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: it is. It's a lot of strikeouts in there.

1392
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I'm still holding. Like you said, the only

1393
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: the only places where I'm considering dropping him are like

1394
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 3: those really like those ESPN leagues that we're in where

1395
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 3: it's really shallow. You don't have a ton of roster spots.

1396
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 3: You can't afford in a small roster league like that

1397
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: to just like take those zeros week over week. So

1398
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: that's the only kind of a league where you just

1399
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 3: can't wait for that kind of stuff. Outside of anything

1400
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: deeper than that, I'm still holding and just you know,

1401
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: not looking at the box goo for a while.

1402
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: I will say on holiday, I am I think lower

1403
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: than some of the other like kind of you know,

1404
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 2: much better prospect evaluators than me on his power long term,

1405
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 2: and I think that will be reflected in his home

1406
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: run numbers as a rookie.

1407
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: I am not expecting, like you know.

1408
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: You'll see some people say like, oh, I mean, this

1409
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 2: is the guy who can develop into like twenty home

1410
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: run power and he's got some speed, maybe like a

1411
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty guy if things were right. I don't see that.

1412
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 2: Like I think the batting average like well come this year.

1413
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 2: Like I think he's going to figure out major league pitching.

1414
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: There's a reason he was consensus their more prospect everywhere.

1415
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: But I don't think he's somebody who's going to give

1416
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: you a lot of power even if he figures it

1417
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: out this year, and just kind of what we've seen

1418
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: to start this season has sort of solidified that in

1419
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: my mind a bit blake. What do you think about Holiday?

1420
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: Are you considered dropping him? Obviously not in any kind

1421
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: of keep or format, but in redraft this season?

1422
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 4: I mean, no, He's just a hold for me now

1423
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 4: because the prospect pedigree is too good.

1424
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: I can't drop him.

1425
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 4: One of my big rules for dropping guys is I

1426
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 4: tend to shy away from dropping guys that I know

1427
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 4: will like immediately get picked up by somebody else in

1428
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 4: the league, because if you drop somebody that is in

1429
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 4: that category, then means that they probably were too good

1430
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 4: for you to drop them to begin with. I think

1431
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 4: a Holiday still falls into that category. I'm gonna bench

1432
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 4: him for a little while until he can figure it

1433
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 4: out because all those strikeouts. I enjoy points league, so

1434
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 4: all those strikeouts are killer in a points league. But yeah,

1435
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 4: I'm not dropping him, but he's not starting for me

1436
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 4: right now either.

1437
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 2: Speaking to his upside too, Like, he only has two

1438
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: hits on the season, and he's walked twice, and he's

1439
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 2: hitting ninth in every game. He scored five runs already.

1440
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: That's how good this Orioles offense is. Is that, Like,

1441
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: even when he's barely getting on base, pretty much every

1442
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: time he gets on he's coming around to score. If

1443
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 2: the average comes around, which again I think that will,

1444
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: you'll still get average runs. I think some steals in

1445
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: the second half of the season. So if you can

1446
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: hold him, I certainly will be hoping to do that. Blake,

1447
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: let's start with you on Nolan Jones. Are you dropping

1448
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: him or considering it?

1449
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 3: At least I just talked about him on my podcast

1450
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 3: the other day.

1451
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 4: He's firmly benched right now contemplating dropping I'm not dropping him, though,

1452
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 4: only because of the premium you paid on drafting him.

1453
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 4: He was still drafted too early for me to want

1454
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 4: to drop now.

1455
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 3: But I'm so.

1456
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 4: Out on starting him because early in the season he

1457
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 4: had the struggles, but they played so many games away

1458
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 4: from coors Field that you kind of just hoped, Okay,

1459
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 4: when he comes back to coors Field, things will turn around.

1460
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 4: He came back to coors Field and nothing changed. So

1461
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 4: until I see some kind of sign of life from him,

1462
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 4: he's a very nervous hold. But I mean, if it

1463
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 4: keeps going I'm going to consider dropping.

1464
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: Him, Yeah, mayor one home run, two stolen bases, batting

1465
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 2: one forty eight.

1466
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: His ops is four six'.

1467
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: Nine it's like been pretty, abysmal AND i was locked

1468
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 2: up With blake in terms, of, oh let's wait till

1469
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 2: he gets back to, course and then just has not.

1470
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: Helped what do you think about?

1471
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 3: HIM i have him as a pretty easy, hold even

1472
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 3: with how ugly it, was just because we saw the

1473
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 3: ceiling last. Year we saw a guy bat two ninety

1474
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 3: seven and go twenty twenty and only one hundred and six,

1475
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 3: games which tells you that there's a lot of potential

1476
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 3: there and so it's painful right. Now BUT i still

1477
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 3: have him as a. Hole that's still too early to

1478
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 3: pull the plug on him in pretty much every. League

1479
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 3: and with What blake, said if you Drop Nolan jones

1480
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 3: in your, league someone's picking him.

1481
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: Up you, know his roster percentage is below. NINETY i

1482
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 2: mean it's at eighty eight percent In. Yahoo it's fifty

1483
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 2: eight PERCENT, espn which is obviously like a lot of shallower,

1484
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 2: leagues and Also yahoo is first base, eligibility but you,

1485
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 2: know it's not like it's at one hundred percent like

1486
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: there are people that are not fighting room for him on,

1487
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 2: rosters SO i think it's. Justifiable but, Yeah i'm with

1488
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: you in terms of not wanting to drop him just.

1489
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: YET i need to see more before he gets to that.

1490
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 2: Level Mayor Glabor, torres are you dropping?

1491
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: Him i'm.

1492
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 3: Close i'm. CLOSE i don't want to because even Though

1493
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 3: i'm not the Biggest Labor torres, fan he still is

1494
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: in a good lineup in a very small, ballpark even

1495
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 3: though he's a writing in that. Ballpark but no home

1496
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 3: runs through twenty four games, Now and the other concerning

1497
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 3: thing is like we've seen the power disappear. Before, obviously

1498
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 3: we saw the explosion in twenty nineteen without bouncy, balls

1499
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 3: and then we saw him the last two years still

1500
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 3: hit twenty four or more home, Runs so we see

1501
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 3: that he's still has some power even after you, know

1502
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 3: down twenty twenty and twenty twenty. One but now here

1503
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 3: we are almost a month to do a, season no

1504
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 3: home runs three still basis betting one eighty six with

1505
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 3: a one ninety one expected batting. Average i'm getting very

1506
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 3: close to dropping, him even THOUGH i would prefer not.

1507
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 2: To another guy with AN ops under five Hundred Blake Glabor,

1508
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 2: torres just to give you the ross percentage also at

1509
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 2: eighty eight percent On. Yahoo he's a bit higher AT

1510
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: espn at seventy three. Percent are you considering dropping?

1511
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 4: Him, yeah right back TO i, mean he's he's a

1512
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 4: pretty close drop for me right now. Too lowess own

1513
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 4: contact rate of his career so, far he just can't hit.

1514
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 4: Anything he's got like a thirty two percent with rate

1515
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 4: on fastballs of all, things for a guy that was

1516
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 4: traditionally so good at hitting, fastballs all of a sudden

1517
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 4: this year he can't hit a. Fastball he can't hit

1518
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 4: a breaking ball or a change to save his life

1519
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 4: this year.

1520
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 3: Either BUT i always get a little more concerned when

1521
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 3: a guy really struggles to hit.

1522
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 4: Fastballs and, yeah Like mike, said we've seen the power

1523
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 4: and things kind of fluctuate in the.

1524
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 3: Past this might just.

1525
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 4: Not this might not Be glaber's, Year AND i would

1526
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 4: rather trend more towards dropping, now how then holding out

1527
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 4: hope for too long into being an.

1528
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 2: Offer i'm not dropping him just for the sake of doing,

1529
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 2: it BUT i think he's definitely a drop. Candidate if there,

1530
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 2: again if there's a, PICKUP i want to Make i'm

1531
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: Not i'm not gonna not make that pick up just

1532
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: Because Clearver torres is in the. Way i'm willing to

1533
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 2: move on from him if. Necessary how about one of

1534
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: the more fun guys to talk, about you know before the?

1535
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 2: Season why At? Langford obviously he made the team for

1536
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 2: the opening day. Roster, great great, hitter you, know one

1537
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 2: of the first picks in this elite draft class last.

1538
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 2: Year looks like one of the best hitters in the.

1539
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 2: Miners a lot of hope and you, know people love the,

1540
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: rookies and you, know when he actually made the opening

1541
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 2: day roster THAT i you, know there's just a ton of.

1542
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: Excitement hasn't quite been there.

1543
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: Yet, again similar To, holiday there's no chance anybody's moving

1544
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: on from him in keeper. Dynasty so we're specifically asking

1545
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: about redraft, only But blake in Redraft Wyatt langford obviously with.

1546
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 1: Theirs you, know what are you?

1547
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 3: Doing i'm holding for.

1548
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 4: NOW i am in a twelve team points league that

1549
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 4: does three, outfielders and if that's your very specific format,

1550
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 4: TYPE i do lean more towards drop in that. Format but,

1551
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 4: overall he's a hold for me just because the talent is.

1552
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 3: There i'm A mariners.

1553
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 4: FAN i lived through The Julio rodriguez getting called up

1554
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 4: and he got he got the very similar consistent call

1555
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 4: strikes outside of the, zone which really messed with his

1556
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 4: head for a.

1557
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 3: While langford's getting the same. Thing it'll all turn.

1558
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 4: Around we've all seen the, talent we all saw how

1559
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 4: well he did last year in the.

1560
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 3: Minors it'll.

1561
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 4: Come he's a hold for, me but in three outfielder,

1562
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 4: leagues shallower three outfielder.

1563
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 3: LEAGUES i understand if you want to drop him in Redraft.

1564
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: Mayor langford's batting two thirty. Five obviously no home runs.

1565
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 2: YET i mean if we're if we're holding Onto, HOLIDAY

1566
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,560
Speaker 2: i don't see any reason why they answer would be

1567
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: different For, langford who's been not that it's saying, much

1568
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 2: but better Than holiday, obviously and kind of got a

1569
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: head start on getting his feet, wet so maybe, there you,

1570
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 2: know the adjustment period shakes off a little sooner than

1571
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: it did For, holiday and also just the ceiling is so.

1572
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 1: High SO i tend to agree With blake on him

1573
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: as a whole.

1574
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 3: Candidate what do you, Think, yeah he hasn't been as

1575
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: bad As Jackson, holiday but he's been bad for, longer

1576
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 3: which which isn't. Good, no h'm runs in the stolen,

1577
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 3: bases as we talked, about and a lot OF i

1578
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 3: don't have any why At langford because his his stock

1579
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 3: went to the moon during draft. Season he became everyone's

1580
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 3: darling and HIS adp just got out of, control and

1581
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 3: SO i don't have him anywhere BECAUSE i just didn't

1582
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 3: draft him early. Enough so And i'm happy THAT i

1583
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 3: don't have to consider dropping him BECAUSE i want. TO

1584
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 3: i would want to drop, him and he's there's no

1585
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 3: track record, here like he's he was just drafted last

1586
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 3: season and then he flew through the minor leagues and

1587
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 3: we saw, this you, know this incredible. Hitter but what

1588
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 3: if he's just not. Ready you, know he's he only

1589
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 3: played you, know seventeen games AT a or, no not

1590
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 3: even five games In TRIPLE a after twelve a dozen

1591
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 3: games In DOUBLE, A like he doesn't even have that

1592
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 3: much that that many professional baseball games at are his.

1593
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 3: Belt so it's it's entirely possible he's just not. Ready

1594
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 3: and SO i don't want to drop him because you,

1595
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 3: know we've talked about the potential, there but also MAYBE

1596
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 3: i just want to see IF i can sell low

1597
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 3: and just get out of The White langford business and

1598
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 3: see if someone's willing to give me something for him

1599
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 3: SO i don't have to drop.

1600
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: Him if you, had if you had both on your

1601
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 2: roster and had to drop, one would you rather Drop

1602
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 2: holiday or like for?

1603
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 3: It that's a good. Question WHEN i first started, TALKING

1604
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 3: i just ASSUMED i wanted to Keep Jackson, Holliday but

1605
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 3: now THAT i think about, IT i don't. Know there's

1606
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 3: also a decent not maybe not, decent but there is

1607
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 3: a non zero chance that one or both of these

1608
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 3: guys get sent. Down so that is a contributing factor,

1609
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 3: here because then you JUST i almost feel LIKE i

1610
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 3: would want to sell low on both of them and

1611
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 3: just see WHAT i can, get because there's as much

1612
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 3: a chance that as they turn it around as it

1613
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 3: is that they get sent, down you get nothing for.

1614
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 2: Them and it's two teams that are like in win now,

1615
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: Mode so there's no incentive to let him figure it

1616
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 2: out at the. Majors if it really is becoming clear

1617
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: that they're not doing. That next guy, Up brandon fat

1618
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 2: mayor what do you.

1619
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 3: THINK i have never been in the Branded Brandon fought,

1620
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 3: business And i'm not going to start, now and so, He's,

1621
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 3: uh he's a drop for. Me unless you're in a

1622
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 3: league similar To kent to my, edit where you need

1623
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 3: the pitching, volume Then i'm okay holding. On but in

1624
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 3: most Cases I'm i'm not a huge. Fan i've never

1625
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 3: really seen the, appeal and so he's a drop for.

1626
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 3: Me what do you, Think?

1627
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 4: Blake, yeah drop for me, too unless you're in like

1628
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 4: a fifteen team. League i'm pretty out On brandon Fat

1629
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 4: his numbers are just average to below average and there's

1630
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 4: nothing there that really excites.

1631
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 3: Me So I'm i'm out On. Fought.

1632
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah four ninety SEVEN era one one seven, whip twenty

1633
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 2: seven strikeouts in twenty nine, innings you, know one one.

1634
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: Record. YEAH i, mean like in the right, LEAGUE i

1635
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 1: might be willing to hold on him as.

1636
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: A, flyer BUT i think it's becoming more apparent that

1637
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: he's he's a pretty okay drop candidate if you need.

1638
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: One Nick, Castianos, blake what do you think about?

1639
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 4: Him another one THAT i just talked about the other

1640
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 4: day on my. Podcast he falls into that category of

1641
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 4: you likely used like a tenth round pick on, him

1642
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 4: so you're going to be real uncomfortable dropping. Him but

1643
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,520
Speaker 4: this version Of Nick castillan so close to the twenty

1644
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 4: twenty two version In Nick castillanos to hit thirteen home

1645
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 4: runs that it scares.

1646
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 3: Me he's doing a lot of things that should be.

1647
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 4: Good he's pulling fly balls like a thirteen percent, clip

1648
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 4: which is way better than league, average but his average

1649
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 4: ex of lost you, know five flyballs is only eighty

1650
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 4: five miles an, hour which is. Terrible he's hitting fewer

1651
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 4: lined drives than, normal making less contacts than. Normal it's

1652
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 4: just there's not a lot of excitement. There and with

1653
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 4: that new stat cast data coming out of hitters' batspeed

1654
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 4: declining over the age OF i think it was thirty,

1655
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 4: one this might just be with him being thirty, two

1656
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 4: this might just be who he is, Now and SO

1657
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 4: i trend more towards Dropping Nick Castillanos, again unless you're

1658
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 4: in like a fifteen or twenty team crazy deep, LEAGUE

1659
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 4: i think you could probably find better rest of season.

1660
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: Options, yeah we we actually mentioned that earlier in the,

1661
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 2: show that age thirty, one and we were not that

1662
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: he's a drop. Candidate but when we were talking About Aaron,

1663
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: judge you, know about thirty, two THAT i thought That

1664
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 2: dada was really.

1665
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: Interesting how you.

1666
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 3: Know blake's a. Professional he wasn't even on the show,

1667
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 3: yet and he still referenced something we just thought.

1668
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: About, yeah Natural natural doing much? Yet, yeah Mayor Nick

1669
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: castiano's drop candidate for.

1670
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 3: YOU i agree that it carries me how similar this

1671
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 3: looks at twenty twenty, Two because it looks really, bad

1672
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 3: and it looks a lot like twenty twenty, two and

1673
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 3: in some cases it looks worse than twenty twenty. TWO

1674
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 3: i don't, KNOW i could pull the trigger on dropping

1675
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 3: him just because you, know we already talked about the

1676
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 3: depth set of power in kind of you, know fantasy

1677
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 3: baseball or real, baseball AND i kind, of you, know

1678
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 3: IF i Drafted Nick casianos based on HOW i build,

1679
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 3: TEAMS i drafted him for that. Power that being, Said

1680
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 3: i'm very close to dropping, him and he's again someone

1681
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: That i'm going to see if MAYBE i can sell.

1682
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 3: Low MAYBE i can swap him for a struggling picture

1683
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 3: that someone wants, to you, know get out. Of AND

1684
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 3: i just kind of, like you, know MAYBE i swap

1685
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 3: a Struggling casianos for someone else's struggling THAT i might

1686
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 3: believe a little bit.

1687
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: More in last, one, HERE i wanted to bring Up Lane.

1688
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 2: Thomas he might not be droppable simply because he has eleven,

1689
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 2: steals which is most leagues you're gonna need. That but

1690
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 2: he's been bad in pretty much every other area and

1691
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 2: is now on THE il of, course so Mayor Lane

1692
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,480
Speaker 2: thomas worth considering, dropping even with the, speed.

1693
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 3: Only if you're in a league where you can't stash

1694
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 3: him because he's. Hurt if you have an il, spot easy,

1695
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 3: keep and if you have a bench spot fairly easy.

1696
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 3: Keep just BECAUSE i was never as high on, him

1697
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 3: LIKE i DON'T i think twenty twenty, three at the

1698
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 3: end of the, day is going to be the outlier

1699
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 3: of his. CAREER i don't think we're ever going to

1700
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 3: see that year again from. Him SO i wasn't in

1701
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 3: on those numbers this. Year but eleven steals in twenty two,

1702
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 3: games even with the explosion of stolen bases where you

1703
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: know a few years, ago that would be incredible and

1704
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 3: you would just, be you, know no chance you drop.

1705
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 3: Him now you can kind of find steals. Everywhere but

1706
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 3: still that's a that's an impressive, rate to the point

1707
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 3: THAT i would want to hold on to him if

1708
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 3: IF i drafted. Him but you, know IF i need

1709
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 3: the roster, Spot i'm just going to pull the. Trigger

1710
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 3: i'll find those steers steal somewhere.

1711
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,799
Speaker 2: Else, honestly most of my, leagues myle MY il spots

1712
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 2: are already. Full like it's just in that kind of a.

1713
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: Season so, like if you do have this, space then,

1714
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 2: YEAH i just throw him on your. Al but if,

1715
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 2: not like if you're anything like me and don't have the,

1716
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 2: SPACE i think that's when it becomes a. Question blake,

1717
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 2: again Eleven, steals are you willing to move on from?

1718
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 3: That if?

1719
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 4: Needed he's a hold for me just because there ARE i,

1720
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 4: mean there's some THINGS i. LIKE i like that he's

1721
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 4: making ninety four percent his own. CONTACT i like he's

1722
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 4: got a twenty three percent line drive, right things like.

1723
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 4: THAT i think we'll bring his babbub and his average

1724
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 4: up over. Time he does have that elite speed at

1725
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 4: the Eleven. Steels so he's a hold for me for.

1726
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 4: Now but Like mike, said if you can't stash, him

1727
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 4: he is on THE. Il it's gonna be at for a.

1728
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 4: While you could probably find a productive player somewhere. Else

1729
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 4: i'm not sure people are clamoring to pick up Lane

1730
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 4: thomas right. Now so we just talked about the guys

1731
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 4: to consider. Dropping who do we want to pick? Up

1732
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 4: we're gonna go to Our waivers segment.

1733
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 2: Here blake of course contributes to our you, Know waivers

1734
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: coverage on the site every, week so we thought that

1735
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: was a natural fit to include him in this. Discussion

1736
01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: blake as the, guest we will start with, you who

1737
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 2: was your favorite hitter to pick?

1738
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 4: Up my favorite hitter to pick up right now Is

1739
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 4: william A bray from The Red. Sox they have already

1740
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 4: committed to him being in the lineup every day Against

1741
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 4: righty's for the rest of the, year WHICH i think is.

1742
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 4: Huge he's been batting clean up lately and towards the

1743
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 4: top of the. LINEUP i think he's hit second and

1744
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 4: third recently as. Well and he's producing which is big

1745
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 4: two home runs fourth oleen bases already walking almost fifteen

1746
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 4: percent while playing, consistently and he has legitimate, power like

1747
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 4: his ninetieth ev right now is like one hundred and

1748
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 4: six point two miles an, hour which is almost two

1749
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 4: miles an hour higher than league. Average so he has

1750
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 4: legitimate power and a guy that can hit the ball that,

1751
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 4: hard walk the high of a. RATE i don't even

1752
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 4: care if he strikes that a little bit too. Much

1753
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 4: he's only owned in like twelve percent Of yahoo, leagues

1754
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 4: so there's a lot of value there for.

1755
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: Him, YEAH i was gonna mention he's very.

1756
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: Available eleven percent is what we're showing On Fantasy bros

1757
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: for HIS Yastu yahoo roster, percentage three percent IN, Espn

1758
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 2: so definitely very available in a lot of.

1759
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: Leagues what do you think about that, Suggestion Mayor.

1760
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 3: So i'm A Red sox, fan So i've watched a

1761
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 3: lot Of willie or bray. You i've never really seen

1762
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 3: it with, him BUT i THINK i think he's. RIGHT

1763
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 3: i Think blake's right that there is a little bit

1764
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 3: of something. There and the other thing with his situation

1765
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 3: with The Red sox is that they have no one

1766
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 3: else in that lineup to replace, him and they have

1767
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 3: no one else in the forty man roster to replace.

1768
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 3: Him they don't have your Famous orioles farm. System there's

1769
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 3: no one. Coming there's no one coming to take his,

1770
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 3: job and so he's going to, continue Like blake, said

1771
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 3: being in the lineup against writers because they're so devastated with.

1772
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 3: Injuries he's been moving up in the. Lineup and this

1773
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 3: is a guy that in twenty eight games last year

1774
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 3: bad at three, sixteen and so there there could be something.

1775
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 3: There and he's a power speed combo. Guy and he's

1776
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 3: essentially free right, now especially since you know he's probably

1777
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 3: gonna fly a little under the radar and waivers at

1778
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 3: least for another. Week so he's someone you can probably,

1779
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 3: get especially if it's A fab league where you have

1780
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 3: to spend a lot of, money you can probably get

1781
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,879
Speaker 3: him pretty cheap before his roster percentae starts.

1782
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: To go up a little, Bit, mayor who's your favorite

1783
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: hitter to pick?

1784
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 3: Up? Right, yeah SO i will go With Hestin. Kirstad

1785
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 3: you're SO i cheated in picked two because they're both

1786
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 3: kind of dart. Ros heston be the sexy one this.

1787
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 3: Week he's going to be the one that a lot

1788
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 3: of people if you have waivers running this, Weekend he's

1789
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 3: going to be one that goes, for you, know either

1790
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 3: the top waiver priority or whoever is the most IN.

1791
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 3: Fab and the other one Is Joey, lieberfido and he's

1792
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 3: someone who's not called up. Yet he's still in TRIPLE.

1793
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 3: A but the astros are struggling big time right, now

1794
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 3: and it's really they're pitching that. Struggling but they also

1795
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 3: have some hitters Like Jose, breu who is not doing

1796
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 3: too great right. Now AND i don't even know If

1797
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 3: i'm saying his name right Because i've actually never heard

1798
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 3: it said out. Loud it could be low Per. FIDO

1799
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 3: i assume it's Low, perfido but It's Joey. Loperfido and

1800
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 3: he has ten home runs in twenty games In TRIPLE

1801
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 3: a already this, season and it comes with a lot of.

1802
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 3: Strikeouts he seems like he's going to be a guy

1803
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 3: who strikes out a. Lot but if you if you need,

1804
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 3: power The astros could call him up, soon And chas

1805
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 3: McCormick doesn't have a firm hold on that outfield. Job

1806
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 3: lowbrafido can play first. Base jose brew looks like a,

1807
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 3: ghost and they can only just you, know we saw

1808
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 3: it last year where he had the atrocious start of the,

1809
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 3: Season Jose, breo and then he kind of turned it

1810
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 3: on and had a strong. START i don't know that

1811
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 3: that's happening, again AND i don't know that they can

1812
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 3: wait for it happened. Again and if if they're not

1813
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 3: going to find pitching to turn around for the as

1814
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 3: you know The, astros then they're just gonna have to

1815
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 3: improve that lineup somewll some some in some, way and

1816
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 3: Low brafido could be someone who does. It and Then hessein,

1817
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 3: kerstaid we kind of know The orioles have an incredibly deep.

1818
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 3: Lineup the trouble for him is going to be is

1819
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 3: he gonna find a spot in that? Lineup is he

1820
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 3: gonna find every day playing? Time we've seen that before

1821
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 3: with The. Orioles, sometimes you, know you just play your

1822
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 3: way onto the, field Like Colton kawser, did and so

1823
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 3: there's a chance he did, too because he was incredible

1824
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 3: in the minor and he really doesn't have anything left

1825
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 3: to prove down, there and they call them, up hopefully

1826
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 3: they play him and you, know you get the speed

1827
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 3: power combo there.

1828
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 4: Too.

1829
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah part of the problem with curestad by the, way

1830
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: that would be a difficult name to pronounce if you

1831
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: didn't know that one beforehand too with That Silent. Jay

1832
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 2: but part of the problem With cure sad is that

1833
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 2: Like ryan O'Hearn And Ryan mountcastle are hitting so, well

1834
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: and Obviously Colton kowser has been this huge, breakout And

1835
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 2: santander has this track record that, yeah there's like just

1836
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 2: not even With Austin hayes going on THE, il which

1837
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: is what prompted this, move there's still not really that many.

1838
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: Options and also The orioles are so lefty heavy in

1839
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 2: their lineup that when they face, lefties like they're already

1840
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 2: forced to hit a, bunch like if they have anybody

1841
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 2: that they can avoid hitting against a lefty who is

1842
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 2: a lefty that's, young like a cure stad like a.

1843
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 2: Holiday we're seeing that actually in today's, LINEUP i think

1844
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna avoid, that SO i would be worried about

1845
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 2: our bets there, Quickly, blake do you have a favorite

1846
01:25:58,800 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 2: between those two guys that may?

1847
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 3: Suggested short term maybe Kres.

1848
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 4: Dad long, TERM i Think, loperfito just BECAUSE i think

1849
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 4: he'll if slash when he gets called, up he'll have

1850
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,879
Speaker 4: less in his way towards consistent.

1851
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 3: Production here said, that like they're loaded In.

1852
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 4: BALTIMORE i don't even know how to getting all those

1853
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 4: guys at bats right, Now so just Adding crestad into

1854
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 4: that as, well it kind of muddies things, up but

1855
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 4: he is already.

1856
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 3: Up so in the short. TERM i think he's gonna

1857
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 3: play enough to have value now long, TERM i Like.

1858
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 2: Loperfito we got to Get blake out of, here so

1859
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 2: we'll go quickly on our favorite pictures this, Week.

1860
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: Blake who's your favorite?

1861
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 4: Arm? Uh Keaton win is my favorite. Arm he's been

1862
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 4: one of my favorite arms for the last couple of.

1863
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 4: WEEKS i think he's very. Underrated he's seventh in baseball

1864
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 4: and ground ball rate right. Now last year the ground

1865
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 4: ball percent leaders were some of the best pictures in.

1866
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 4: Baseball Cindyal, Can Tara framber Of. Baldos guys like That

1867
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,799
Speaker 4: Logan web And Keaton. Win he has that nasty splitter

1868
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 4: that goes really hard for a, splitter and it's doing

1869
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,799
Speaker 4: the job and he's not blow you away with strikeout.

1870
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 4: Numbers but for, me When i'm looking at pitchers to

1871
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 4: pick up off of, waivers it's always important to not

1872
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 4: chase wins because that will kill. You chase quality starts

1873
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 4: and then just hope that you get wins off of.

1874
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 4: That AND i Think Keaton win is a great source

1875
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 4: of quality starts for the rest of the.

1876
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:21,679
Speaker 1: Season mayor what do you think About?

1877
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 3: WIN i think he's not quite in That Ranger suarez

1878
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 3: level that we talked about, earlier WHERE i just think

1879
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 3: he's like really, solid but he's kind, of you, know

1880
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 3: heading in that direction where he's not going to be

1881
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 3: like super flashy or, sexy but maybe he just turns

1882
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 3: into be kind of a quality arm who gives, you you,

1883
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 3: know innings and not a ton of, strikeouts but enough

1884
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 3: strikeouts to be. VIABLE i do like that he keeps

1885
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 3: the the you, know the ball on the, ground which

1886
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 3: is similar to what we talked About Ranger, suarez which

1887
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 3: is kind of how that jumped out to me with the.

1888
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 3: Comparisons so don't love A Keaton, win But i'm okay

1889
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 3: with A Keaton.

1890
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 2: WIN i like How blake, said don't chase, wins but

1891
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 2: we're going to chase when singular in this.

1892
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: Case, yeah. Exactly mary rap us up here with your favorite.

1893
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 3: Picture mine IS i don't know that he's my favorite,

1894
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 3: pitcher but he's the Picture i'm going.

1895
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: With says in the, Show Shee mayor's favorite.

1896
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: Picture so you, know as we've established last, Week I'm

1897
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 2: Ron burgundy and we'll read what's the funny?

1898
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 3: Me that's? True that is a good, Point So Zach

1899
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 3: lttel is the Name i'm going with this. Week you,

1900
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 3: KNOW i like my raised. PICTURES i did promise not

1901
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 3: to talk about him every. WEEK i don't THINK i

1902
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 3: talked about him too much last week week. Before so

1903
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 3: we're diving back in a little. Bit but he stuck

1904
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:42,759
Speaker 3: out to me because he's widely. Available despite the strong

1905
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 3: start he's off, to he's only rostered in forty four

1906
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 3: percent OF yaha leagues and twenty two percent OF espn.

1907
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 3: Leagues so he's a guy you can find a lot

1908
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 3: of leagues off to a strong. Start three point three THREE,

1909
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,839
Speaker 3: era twenty seven, innings twenty nine. Strikeouts all his expected

1910
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 3: er numbers are pretty. Similar is, up, swinging strike percentages,

1911
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 3: up hard contact is down a lot to like so

1912
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 3: far for a guy who's pretty widely.

1913
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: Available and it looks like you've got a bonus option

1914
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 1: here as.

1915
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 3: Well oh, yeah the bonus. Option and this is really

1916
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 3: only for deep, leagues and It's Quinn, priester and it's

1917
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 3: because he has two stars and they're against The Oakland

1918
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 3: a's and The Colorado. Rockies AND i wouldn't go nuts

1919
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,600
Speaker 3: adding him because who knows what he's going to be

1920
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:29,719
Speaker 3: and his early numbers are not, great but to start

1921
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 3: there in tripa a thirteen two thirds innings and twenty

1922
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 3: strikeouts at a three point nine to five Ra so

1923
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 3: there is some stuff potential. There don't know what you're gonna,

1924
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 3: get but if you are in a deep league where

1925
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 3: you need some, volume he does get two stars against

1926
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 3: two very bad.

1927
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: Teams he's also not like a nobody like non.

1928
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 2: Prospect he's like has been highly rated at, times you

1929
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 2: know in The pirates. Organization young, Picture, yeah what do

1930
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 2: you think about just quickly both you know his favorite

1931
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 2: pitcher and then also his deeply.

1932
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: OPTION i Like.

1933
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 3: LTTEL i think he's a good.

1934
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,799
Speaker 4: AD i like that he changed himself from a slider

1935
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 4: four seam guy to a slider splitter.

1936
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 3: GUY i like that a. Lot and it's been fairly successful.

1937
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 3: Too so.

1938
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 4: Seeing guys make like tangible pitch repertoire changes and usage

1939
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 4: ranging rate usage changes and all of that and see

1940
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 4: it actually put up good numbers as. Nice you got

1941
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 4: a k minus walker over twenty, percent which anything over

1942
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 4: seventeen percent for me is. Great so getting a guy

1943
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 4: almost twenty one percent is. Awesome And PRIESTER i like

1944
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,560
Speaker 4: him for the same. Reasons the only three teams THAT

1945
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 4: i feel super confident about Starting Waiver wire guys against

1946
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 4: Our Oakland colorado and the Horrible Chicago White. Sox and

1947
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 4: he just happens to play two of them in the same,

1948
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 4: Week so there's value there in.

1949
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: That, yeah cannot beat. That all, right we will Let blake.

1950
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 2: Go thank, You thank you so much for giving us the.

1951
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 2: Time i'm sure we'll have you on again later in

1952
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,600
Speaker 2: the season as well to find some new topics to hit.

1953
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 2: On but thank you again for giving us the time

1954
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 2: For blake And mayor we will step away and may

1955
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 2: AND i will be right back on the other.

1956
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: Side thank you again To blake for joining us on

1957
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 1: this episode of the.

1958
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,640
Speaker 2: Cycle we really appreciate him coming on talking about some

1959
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 2: players to drop and also giving out His waivers, suggestions

1960
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 2: so again appreciate him joining. Us this, week we're going

1961
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 2: to try and get more writers on the show and

1962
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 2: kind of introduce our audience to some of the contributors

1963
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 2: on the site and guys that you might also just

1964
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 2: know elsewhere and be interested in hearing. From and so

1965
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna try and do that more throughout this. Season

1966
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 2: SO i hope you guys enjoyed that. One let's get

1967
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 2: into wrapping up the show here with our weekend. Excitement as,

1968
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 2: always some of the ones THAT i wrote down here

1969
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 2: The Yankees brewers, SERIES i just think that's a good exciting,

1970
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,520
Speaker 2: series a couple good. Teams fun ones showed To imanaga

1971
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 2: Versus Cutter crawford On, friday very fun pitching matchup given

1972
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 2: how those guys have started the.

1973
01:31:58,520 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: Season so excited for.

1974
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 2: THAT i did Write Ranger suarez continues to be the

1975
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 2: best picture in baseball because he's got to start this.

1976
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 2: Weekend i'm curious to see how he can keep it.

1977
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 2: Up and Then Pablo lopez Versus Read. Detmers detmer is

1978
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 2: obviously looking really good this. Season On sunday is another

1979
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 2: fun pitching. Matchup what are you excited for this?

1980
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 3: Weekend So i'm excited to see my Boy Zach efln

1981
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 3: versus the WORST i think still line up in. Baseball

1982
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 3: they do Have Elo jimenez, back but Still Zach eflin

1983
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 3: versus The White sox continuing his path bounce back to

1984
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 3: the Cy. YOUNG i want to See Zach allen Versus George,

1985
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 3: kirby specifically The George kirby side of. THAT i have

1986
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 3: a lot Of Zach. GOLLAN i don't have Any George.

1987
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 3: Kirby we did See George kirby kind of take a

1988
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 3: step in the right, direction and SO i want to

1989
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 3: see was that like a one time kind of bounce

1990
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 3: back or is he really turning things?

1991
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 2: AROUND i am LITERALLY i literally saw him take that

1992
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 2: step BECAUSE i was at that game against The rockies On,

1993
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:56,600
Speaker 2: sunday and as somebody who does Roster, KIRBY i was

1994
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 2: watching very keenly and was disappointed that even though he

1995
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 2: gave up no, runs he could not get the quality

1996
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 2: start for me.

1997
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 3: Terrific THEN i also want to See Paul blackburn getting

1998
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 3: lit up by The. Orioles not THAT i want to

1999
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 3: see you, happy BUT i do want to see some

2000
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 3: Some Paul. Blackburn you, KNOW i want to See joe,

2001
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 3: unhappy is what is WHAT i really is.

2002
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,560
Speaker 1: Saying but you also kind of want to see me,

2003
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: happy right like to a. DEGREE i mean we are

2004
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 1: friends with.

2005
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 3: Coworkers, SURE i mean you have enough going. On you,

2006
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 3: know you got Enough oriols things to feel good. About

2007
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 3: you don't need to pick On Paul.

2008
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 2: BLACKBURN i have sat through so Much orioles, crap not

2009
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 2: only in my, lifetime but specifically the last half decade

2010
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 2: that it's like one and a half good seasons and

2011
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 2: people are already, Like i'm tired of of The. Oriols

2012
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 2: they have so many good, Prospects, like, yeah we earned.

2013
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 2: It we sat through so many years terribleness outside of

2014
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:44,759
Speaker 2: a blip in the early twenty.

2015
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: Tens it's, it's, uh you, know we've earned.

2016
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 2: This there there are anybody who's a Lifelong orioles, fan,

2017
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 2: like please gloat and be excited and be happy and

2018
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 2: celebrate as much as you can because you know this

2019
01:33:58,640 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 2: was a long time.

2020
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 3: Coming at least sign a petition to move that wall back.

2021
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 4: In.

2022
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 2: Please, yeah all, right season long two start pitcher. Competition

2023
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 2: we have a problem because, well first of, all we

2024
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 2: have a couple of. Problems number, one we need to

2025
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 2: decide who won last. Week you, Know Aaron nola did,

2026
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 2: better but But Cutter crawford gave up fewer earned. Runs

2027
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 2: nola was better in every other. Category i'm not sure

2028
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 2: how we want to evaluate that.

2029
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 1: One what do you think it.

2030
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 3: Looks like thirty nine to twenty seven point nine to?

2031
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 3: ME i also still don't know how your league does this.

2032
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:39,680
Speaker 2: SCORE i was gonna say that's just a catch all

2033
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 2: that you you were very clear that you didn't want

2034
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 2: to use my league's fantasy.

2035
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 1: SCORING i never said.

2036
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 3: THAT i SAID i don't know what they.

2037
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 2: Are, no as much AS i would like to make the,

2038
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 2: Case crawford did have a LOWER era this Week, nola

2039
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 2: and they both won one, game for whatever that. Matters

2040
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 2: nola did go a couple more innings and have more,

2041
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 2: strikeouts and he had you, know if you were a

2042
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:02,640
Speaker 2: walk so and it's not like he had a battie all.

2043
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: Right he was also quite low three earned runs and

2044
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 1: fifteen to third.

2045
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 2: Inning SO i would have fun to make the case for,

2046
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 2: myself BUT i think it probably goes to you for week,

2047
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 2: Two Aaron, nola SO i will give it you.

2048
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 4: Free.

2049
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah the other.

2050
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 2: Problem is this, week AND i slacked you about this

2051
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 2: already when we put this together last, Week Grayson riguez

2052
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 2: was scheduled for two. Starts they now pushed him back

2053
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 2: by a day because they want him to pitch in

2054
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 2: The yankees series Starting.

2055
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:32,640
Speaker 1: Monday So i'm not sure how we changed things up

2056
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: in that.

2057
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 2: SITUATION i obviously wouldn't have Picked grayson IF i knew

2058
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 2: he was facing The, yankees instead of the. Athletics my

2059
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 2: whole reason for picking him, was, oh to Start. Pitcher

2060
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 2: he's facing The. A's i'm open to ideas of how

2061
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 2: you want to approach.

2062
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 3: This, UH i already slacked you my response TO.

2063
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 1: I think we should JUST i think we should just

2064
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 1: make this week null and.

2065
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 2: Void AND i don't say that just Because grayson got

2066
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 2: shelled last night in his first start of the.

2067
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:02,639
Speaker 3: WEEK i, mean you're. You're my original proposal was automatic

2068
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 3: loss for, you WHICH i still put at number one

2069
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 3: on the list of. Options your second one was to

2070
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 3: just count his Start monday against The. Yankees also fine with.

2071
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 3: THAT i prefer number, one but also found with number.

2072
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 3: TWO i actually have no idea How Pablo lopez did

2073
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 3: in his. START i assume he did, fine BUT i.

2074
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 2: Haven't Actually i've done worse Than, grayson who gave up

2075
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 2: seven runs and it was basically the worst start of his.

2076
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 3: Career.

2077
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:31,640
Speaker 2: EXCELLENT i think probably the fairest is it's it sucks for,

2078
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 2: me but to take The monday, start and obviously it's

2079
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 2: against a much more difficult opponent THAN i. Anticipated that's

2080
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 2: just bad, LUCK i. Think BUT i think that's the fairest.

2081
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 3: Thing Aaron judge will be thirty two years old by.

2082
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 2: Them, yeah maybe that'll be good For. Grayson so all,

2083
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 2: right so we'll see how that. Goes, obviously we'll have

2084
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 2: those results for next. Week, currently we're tired of each

2085
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 2: one one week of this. MATCHUP i would have to

2086
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 2: believe that Unless Pablo lopez was, terrible That mayor will

2087
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 2: take the lead. Here and then, lastly just to make

2088
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 2: our picks for this, Week i've Got Joe ryan at

2089
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 2: The White, sox firsut The Red.

2090
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:07,679
Speaker 3: Sox who do you? Have so this was an interesting

2091
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,759
Speaker 3: week looking at two star pictures just because there weren't

2092
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 3: a lot of great. MATCHUPS i was kind of.

2093
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 1: Scrolling it was, TRUE i really did not like any

2094
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 1: of the.

2095
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 3: Options So i'm going With Freddy peraltza going up against

2096
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 3: like two. MATCHUPS i don't love going up against The

2097
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 3: rays and The. Cubs and that's mostly BECAUSE i was

2098
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 3: scrolling through On Fantasy pro's looking At protector Two stars,

2099
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 3: pitchers AND i didn't really love a lot of WHAT

2100
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 3: i was, seeing and he seemed, like even though he's

2101
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 3: got two tough, matchups he's kind of the best picture

2102
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 3: going against those tough matchups because it was there was

2103
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 3: not a whole lot out, there And Walker buehler is coming,

2104
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 3: back BUT i don't know THAT i want to sign

2105
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 3: up for Two Walker bueller stars right out of the,

2106
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 3: gate especially When i'm trying to get a win against.

2107
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 3: You you already Had Joe, ryan and you, know looking

2108
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 3: AT i Considered Christopher sanchez going up against The angels

2109
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 3: and The. GIANTS i didn't love that, matchup AND, i you,

2110
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 3: know we're kind of you, know things can go wrong

2111
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 3: at any, Moment Christopher Christopher, SANCHEZ i do have a

2112
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 3: looks LIKE i deleted on the, sheet or maybe you

2113
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 3: deleted it on. ME i did have a deeper league,

2114
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 3: pick you know. What, NO i already talked about, him

2115
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 3: so no need to go through. Him but, yeah a

2116
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 3: guy we already. Mentioned.

2117
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah i've been like you, said it was a

2118
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 2: really rough week for picking a two start, pitcher AND

2119
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 2: i was, Like Joe ryan is a talented enough picture

2120
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 2: and he's got a good couple of, matchups So i'll

2121
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 2: just take it and run and hopefully he does better

2122
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 2: Than grayson did this last. Week All, Right we'll get

2123
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 2: out of there on. That thank you everybody for tuning in.

2124
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 2: Again another long episode, here but we appreciate everybody sticking

2125
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 2: around till the. End thank you again To blake for joining.

2126
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 2: Us For mayor who was At Mike mayer On, Twitter

2127
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm Ryan. Warmley we'll see you again next.

2128
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,240
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2129
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:54,040
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2130
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2131
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