1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: When you get to a point you need a lady 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: des You know what, the same age you so y'all 3 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: can experience gray hairs together and be old. My mama's around. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just just thinking about it. 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: You just everybody all my life, grinding all my life, 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: sacri fights, hustle, pet prison, one slice got the brolic 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: Geist swap all my life. I've been grinding all my life, 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: all my life, and grinding all my life, sacri fights, hustle, 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: platic prison, one slice got the brolic Geist swash all 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: my life. I've been grinding all my life. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propride of 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: Club Shasha, stopping by for conversation on the drink today. 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: Is a creative force who love experimenting with music, fashion, 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 3: and business. A trailblazer in contemporary hip hop, a cultural 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: influence or a leading figure for brands. A global hit maker, 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: Grammy name, Grammy nominated rapper, multi platinum selling artist, chart 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: topplin producer, respected songwriter, multi talented actor, the act to 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: compose his lyricist, creator, entertainer, host, interviewer, media personality, and 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: a model, a versual businessman, viral trend center, a new 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: wave icon, voted one of the best dressed rappers of 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: his generation, a dynamic force, and he's a homie Atlanta 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: bread little yachty. Damn, now you that you I appreciate that. 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: I was fire. 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: You know what, I know you don't drink, so, bro, 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 3: we're gonna just water get this thing off right. 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go. 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 3: Damn, can't get mine enough. Appreciate you stopping my math 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 3: of course, mm hmm. 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: On snowy day. 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, I'm geting this little shape right quickly. 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 3: Celebrate the new year with a bottlet bolet shade battle 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: fort head. Let's get right into it. Thank you for 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: putting up to the club today. Cut your hair, yeah, bro, 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, because a lot of people, a lot 36 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: of things are tied to their hair. And you see 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: when people go to different hairstyles, they're in a different 38 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: phase of life and they want to try something new. 39 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: What do you what are you signifying? What are you 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: saying by cutting your hair? 41 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: Truth be told. It was just damaged. My hair was damaged. 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: I kept bleaching it, coloring it, and so it was 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: just it was real damage. Then I got tired of it. 44 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: I had a box, okay, so I ain't had a side. 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: So I was like, man, I want to I want 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: to grow my whole hair. And to be honest, I've 47 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: been growing my hair since since I was in like 48 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: tenth eleventh grade, you know, so like almost fourteen years ago. 49 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: So I was like, it's just cut it off. You 50 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: tried to do something different, yeah, Like, I mean I 51 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: think for so long I was so like embedded into 52 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: my hair, and it was like, well, I could never 53 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: not have hair. I could never. I could never. And 54 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: I think I just woke up one day and was like. 55 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: When you color it, what is the colors? Because you, 56 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: like you said, you used to bleach your hair, you 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: had it red, you had a lot of different colors. 58 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: So what what what did your hair mean to little yachty? 59 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, man. So I had braids 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: in high school and they were black and my mom 61 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: I got to the age I was able to work 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: and my mom was like, you need to get a job, 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: and she wanted me to get a job at McDonald's 64 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: at fifteen. And my mom is a businesswoman, real professional, 65 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: like she don't she don't play. So my mom was like, 66 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: I had these long black braids, and she was like, 67 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: you can't go in there with those long braids. You 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: need to look professional. You need to cut your hair. 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: I had an interview at McDonald's, exactly right, and I 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: had never worked before, so I'm assuming, my mama, no, 71 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: she talking about she got a good job, you know 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm like, I really didn't want 73 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: to because my hair is what separated me from people. 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: But I was like, all right, my mama, no, she's 75 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: talking about. I cut my hair, did the interview, got 76 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: the job the first day, and everyone had crazy hair. 77 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about they had, man, they had all kinds 78 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: of colors and rays. And so I came home and 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: I was so upset and I was like, man, you 80 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: made me cut my hair and everybody got here, you know, 81 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: it's McDonald's. And she felt bad. And so when day 82 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: we were driving, she was taking me to work, and 83 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: she was like, why don't you do something to him? 84 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, what, she's like colored red? And I think 85 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: she don't think I was going to actually do it, 86 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: because at the time, you understand, it's like twenty thirteen 87 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't a thing. You know. The most that there 88 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: was in like African American culture for men was like 89 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: a blonde patch because Wis Khalifa did like the blonde 90 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: patch with the black but colored hair wasn't a thing 91 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: for black men. It wasn't like cool or trendy or 92 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: or just prominent. So like when I did it, she 93 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: didn't think I was gonna do it, but when I 94 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: did it, it was like, I don't know, I just 95 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: kept it all the way. And then it became a 96 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: point where I knew that my hair was like my signature, 97 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: and my hair was what was going to uh yes 98 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: and catch people's attention. So I'll never forget when I 99 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: wan to college. I went to Alabama State and this 100 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: is like twenty fifteen, and still colorful hair for black 101 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: men wasn't a thing yet. So I had red hair 102 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: and it had braids and it had beads, and I'm 103 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: in Alabama, so they looking at you, like. 104 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 3: Red hair, braids, b in Alabama, and. 105 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: I dressed different, and you dress different, so they was 106 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: looking at you like. 107 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: What are you on? 108 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: And it ain't what I'm on what they thought I 109 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: was on. You know, what I'm saying so, but but 110 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: I had this thing in my head. I was like, man, 111 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: like this is so temporary, this whole experience, like this 112 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: something it's a bigger picture for me. It's a bigger 113 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: so like because I could have always just cut my 114 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: hair and blended in and had a great college experience. 115 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: But I was like nah, because see that the thing 116 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: was is that on the weekends I would go home, 117 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: right or my dad worked for Delta, so like I 118 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: would go anywhere, you Like, I'd be in Alabama Monday 119 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: through Friday, and after class I'd been la for the 120 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: weekend with zero dollars in my pocket, but I flew 121 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: for free, so I would get on a plane and 122 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: then like go hang out with asat Rocky or like something. 123 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Like I was like I was always could always find 124 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: something to do something together. 125 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 126 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: So like I believed in like my look, my image, 127 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: and I just always thought I was cool, right, Like 128 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: I've always had confidence since like high school. I was 129 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: voted most likely to become famous in high school, like 130 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: because I just always had a confidence level and just 131 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: felt like, man, I'm not you feel mean right to 132 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: this day. So that's the whole hair thing, and for 133 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: the longest. I always felt like, man, I needed my hair. 134 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: I used to feed away for a long time, so crazy. 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: In the beginning of my career, when I first started 136 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: in like twenty sixteen, I would when I would go out, 137 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: I used to I used to think. And at the 138 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: beginning it was as well. I used to think people 139 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: only knew me about my hair. Like if I would 140 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: step out and I had my red brain showing people 141 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: like hollo, yeah you like. And I usually feel like Batman, 142 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: like if I cover my hair, like I could just 143 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: go out, and for a long time I could. No 144 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: one really knew my face. They just knew my hair 145 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: until you know, I mean a decade later obviously hair 146 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: no hair. Shit. People see my eyes sometimes and be like, 147 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: I know who that is. 148 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: So you mentioned your mom has a great job, your 149 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: dad worked for Delta. What type of kid were you? 150 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: Did you get in trouble? Were you a class clown 151 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: or did you always kind of know what you wanted 152 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: to do. 153 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: I was definitely a class clown. I got I got 154 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: in trouble sometimes. I me and my mother got into 155 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: it a lot because my mom was really strict. Man, 156 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: It's so interesting because we have such a beautiful relationship now, 157 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: and I realized that it just had to do it. 158 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: She just wanted me to be great, you know. So 159 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: I used to think she was like evil, you know, 160 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: but she just wanted me to be great, you know. 161 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: And my mother's from a different time period than me 162 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: as to where like you know, her her parents worked 163 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: in steel mills, you know, and then still collegeized. She's 164 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: from Gary, Indiana, so like all she knew was degree career. 165 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: So when I'm like, I'm gonna be rich if rap 166 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: and I'm from like a little suburban area outside Atlanta 167 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: where like no one was famous, Like it was like 168 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: low to middle income, Like it was just regular, right, 169 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: So like she's like, you got like a one in 170 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: a million percent chance, you know what I'm saying. But 171 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: like I grew up my father is also he's a photographer, 172 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: So I just grew up around music my whole life. 173 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: And I was outside. I was just outside doing teenage bad. 174 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you do bad, You're just being young, you 175 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 176 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: So how was your dad? Because normally the dad is 177 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: the disciplinarian and the mom is a little bit more lenient. 178 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: So my parents the voice that ate my mom was 179 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: the mean one. My dad is the art one. 180 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: Ok. 181 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad he was like you know, my dad 182 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: got a curl mustache and like gold teeth. He's cool. 183 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: So like my dad. Probably dad ass wouldn't kill a spider. 184 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like my dad wasn't. He wasn't. 185 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: He just wasn't like that for real? 186 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: Did your mom say, I don't know your father's name, 187 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: but Charlie, you needn't get on that boy. You see 188 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: him out the. 189 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: One time my dad one time she forced I know 190 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: for a fact my mom was up to this. I 191 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: guess me and Mamma got into it. My dad came 192 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: over and like trying to like so called discipline me, 193 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: like punched me in the chest and I'll never get 194 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: look at him like really beat your ass like real, 195 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: like you ain't you not even like that for real? 196 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: But but but I love my dad to death, you 197 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But uh, I mean I don't 198 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: know the same as anyhow, so you are ain't. No, 199 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: I don't know too many black kids that just grew 200 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: up perfect because because you're trying to figure yourself out, 201 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you're trying to figure 202 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: out your way in life. I think in the beginning 203 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: of my high school like experiences, I was like trying 204 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: to do it my my friends, did you know? Like 205 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: I was trying out for football and basketball, and that's 206 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: how I realized I wasn't athletic at all. 207 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: How was that football experience? 208 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: Oh? Man, I was number like sixty six. 209 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: They gave you that number. You chose that number. 210 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: I ain't get to choosing. 211 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,359 Speaker 3: Oh wah, yeah, yeah, you pretty bad. Yeah. 212 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: And at the time I weighed like one hundred and 213 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: thirty pounds. Okay, so I was had a lineman number 214 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: and I was one hundred thirty pounds. 215 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you wouldn't. 216 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: I kept the bench warm, though, you know, I kept 217 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: I kept one time. Man, it's so crazy. I got 218 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: in probably like two times the whole season right before 219 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: I quit. And one time I got in on the 220 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: punk return team, and I was on like that first bro. 221 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: Usually ball ball shouldn't come this way at all, right, 222 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: the ball should go past me. I guess it was 223 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: a bad kick, and somehow the ball came out way. 224 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: You got it, And I'm like, this is my time. 225 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, get a yachta go yachty YadA. 226 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: Since I picked the ball up. Oh man, as soon 227 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: as I look before I could pick the ball up 228 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: and look up, I was a pancake on that on 229 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: that on that field. And that's when I realized, Oh, 230 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: I don't like getting hit. I don't I don't ever 231 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: want to get hit like this. So I think that 232 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: was I think I resigned after that game. 233 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: Actually, so you really was only like playing sports because 234 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: your friends played, or to try. 235 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: All of my best friends are super athletic, you know, 236 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: like like to this day, all well not all of them, 237 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: but a good amount of them. They play. 238 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: So like. 239 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: I just wanted to, Like I've always been a brother guy, 240 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, like my brother, my big brother, he wasn't 241 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: really in my life, and so like I always wanted brothers, 242 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, uh, so I say, 243 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm so adamant on friendship and like that, so like 244 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: sticking together brother ship, that's what you're own ship. I'm 245 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: on it, I'm on this, we on this, this with 246 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: we on You don't like him, I don't like him, 247 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that's that's the type 248 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: of guy always was, you know what I'm saying until 249 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: I got a little older, and I'm still like that. 250 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: But I got the older and started realizing. 251 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: I started thinking, for yourself, I can't do that. 252 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Then I joined the yearbook staff, 253 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: and fucking I started doing that. I was the MC 254 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: for the school, so I did the pep rallies all 255 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: those school things, and I kind of like hyped up 256 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: the school. And then that's when I was like, I 257 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: always wanted to do music because I've been around it 258 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: my entire life. My father he shot everybody, you know, 259 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: so uh, but doing those pep rallies it helped me 260 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: like realize, like, I ain't scared of no crowd, and 261 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: I know how to turn them up. 262 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: So, yeah, did you play any other sports other than football? 263 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: Or you would tempt any other sports? 264 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: No? Football was enough, seriously and like and practices the 265 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: whole like y'all both play on the ground and jump 266 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: up and gotta run towards each other. 267 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 268 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: I hated that. 269 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: Oh you like the Oklahoma. 270 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: I want to be in a different different state, different city, 271 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: and putting in Oklahoma? Where got that ship? Bro? That 272 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: ship was not comfortable. I'm a comfortable guy and that's 273 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: not that's not the physical contact. I'm mental. 274 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 3: Okay. You mentioned you worked at McDonald's. You had a 275 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: job at six Flags, and you altered clothes for money. 276 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: Yeah let me let me start with the altering of clothes. 277 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 3: Did you take home mac you saw your mom, you 278 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: saw your grandmama. How did you come in? 279 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: My mother taught me out of sell Okay, because at 280 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: the time, see this so crazy how fashion is. At 281 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: the time, big pants was in style. Everybody worked big clothes. Yes, right, 282 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: this is right. This is like right after like the air, 283 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: like your jerk and stuff. So skinny stuff started to 284 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: come in. And Adidas used to have track pants. They 285 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: used to have a classic track pants or the Didas 286 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: track pantsfore they made soccer pants. Yeah, they were, you know, loose, 287 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: original Adidas track pants loose. But I was in the 288 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: skinny cloth. I was like, I want my Dita pants 289 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: to be skinny. So my mom used to do them 290 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: for me, and I used to ask her so many times. 291 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: She taught me how to sew so I could have 292 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: I was the only person at school just with like 293 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: skinny jogger sweats because there wasn't a such thing yet. 294 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: And then it became so trendy at my school that 295 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: everyone be like, how'd you do that? And I'd be like, 296 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: I made them. So I started making money off of 297 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: altering excuse me, people's clothes. You know what I'm saying, Like, 298 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, ten dollars, fifteen dollars, twenty dollars to get 299 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: make everybody's past skinny, so I like them there, come 300 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: home with a book bag full of pants, so everybody 301 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: pans up, make them all skinny, bring them back to school. Yeah, 302 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: And that's how I paid for clothes. That's how I 303 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: bought clothes. 304 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: So you kind of always been had a hustler's mentality. 305 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: I always liked things. You can't get things off of 306 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: being funny, something. 307 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: Like I ain't gonna be no comedian. 308 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: Well I mean shouts out to the comedians, but like no, 309 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I was like, I 310 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: was so young, bro, and I was like, man, I 311 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: got it. I like clothes. I always love clothes, So 312 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: I was like, man, my mama didn't buy me in 313 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: high school. Once I got to a certain age, my 314 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: mom was like you you you're you're kind of like 315 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: you're older, and and my mom lost her job when 316 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: I got in high school, so she wasn't working, but 317 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: it was tight. Yeah, So like I had to find 318 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: for myself and I want to go out on the weekends. 319 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: I want to go to the games, I want to 320 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: go to the movies, and I had to make it happen. 321 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: You mentioned early on that your mom you get your 322 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: haircut to go work at McDonald's. So what were you 323 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: a cash heer? You a cook? 324 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: I was on I was on a grill. They let 325 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: the prettier like the women be on the on the cash. Okay, 326 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: well it's McDonald's. Ain't nobody really Dad hit me down, 327 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: no offense, but like, uh yeah, that job was cool 328 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: though they was mean as hell. You know, when people 329 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: hate their job, they'd be a little bit. 330 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: But then why you work? And I get that all 331 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: the time you added to your place, you don't just 332 00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: don't come back. 333 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: Because it's the only thing you can get maybe possibly potentially, 334 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: and you got to pay your bills. You know what 335 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, a lot of people don't like people. I 336 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: think people be like people. I think a lot of 337 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: people settle in life, yes, and. 338 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: So I just don't work with a lot of things, relationships. 339 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: And relationships, baby parents. I think I think people just settle, 340 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, you take what you can get because it's 341 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: comfortable and it's there, and I don't know, it's so funny. 342 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm so not that way. I will not settle for nothing, 343 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: and I never would settle ever, because life is so short, right, 344 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You live and then you die, 345 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: So why not do it how you want to do it? 346 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Whether you rich or you know, 347 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: barely getting to buy your means is you're still entirely 348 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: to your life. 349 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: Did any of these jobs overlap? You mentioned you had 350 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: the job at McDonald's you're doing, you know, some alterations 351 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: for a kid at school, and you worked at six Flags, 352 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: So did any of this overlap? 353 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I worked at MacDonald's at fifteen, and then 354 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: I worked at six Flags at sixteen. But when I 355 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: worked at six Flags, I worked for during the fright Fest, 356 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: so it was only one month. It was like October. 357 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: I worked on a hounted house. It's like a ghost. 358 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: I would pop out the locker room. I popped out 359 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: the locker That was cool, though just working wasn't really 360 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: for me, you know, because I had goals. Man, I 361 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: had goals. I had dreams. I was like same with school, 362 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: right like I was in college. Like just I had goals. 363 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: I used to fear cubicals like I feared. I was like, oh, man, 364 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: I can't be in a cubicle. What a neighbor named Joe. 365 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: A part of Joe? 366 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: I can't be next to with Joe, no offense to 367 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: Joe's around the world. I personally just I like freedom, 368 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: financial freedom, You like independence, you like going and coming, 369 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: you like moving that you all? I mean yeah, I 370 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: like to wake up when I want to wake up 371 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: and see when I want to go to see, want 372 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: to eat what I want to eat, and want to look. 373 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: I want to look. You know what I'm saying type ship, 374 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: you know? And I like what I like. I don't 375 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: like no. I do not like no, although although there's 376 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: no life without no, you're gonna get know sometimes. But 377 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: I really refer to not hearing you. 378 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: Mentioned working at McDonald's. But you know, you get good 379 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 3: food at McDonald's. You know you get burgers. 380 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: But I hear you. 381 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: You know, so what you eat McNuggets or Pauls? 382 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: You know, me eating over here, I don't do that. 383 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: I like chicken, okay, yeah, chicken. I don't eat fishes, 384 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: no fish, Okay, do they have chicken sandwiches? Back in 385 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: chickens make chickens and chicken nuggets and fries I ain't 386 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: even eat at the time. I eat fries now, but 387 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: back then I didn't eat fries. But yeah, my diet 388 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: is been. 389 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: All that free food they got that you ain't eat nothing. 390 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: But I hated though. I ateed me chicken every single day, 391 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: thank god. Damn man got tired. Man, I hate that 392 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: shit every day. Bro, it was crazy. 393 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: You go to college, attend Alabama State? What made you 394 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 3: if you kind of knew early on? I'm listening that 395 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: you talked and were only like ten fifteen minutes in 396 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: this conversation, and I get the impression that you kind 397 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: of knew school wasn't for you, but you went anyway 398 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 3: with that for your mom. 399 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, it was for my mom. But also 400 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: it was like when I graduated high school. The day 401 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: after I graduated, I told my mother, I'm moving to 402 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: New York and I'm some of my rap dreams. 403 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: And she cried. 404 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: She was crying, and she was on the couch and 405 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: she was crying. Never forget it. So, yeah, all right, 406 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: I'm out. I packed her bag and I flew to 407 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: New York. I got like twenty dollars in my pocket, 408 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: uh an EBT card, and uh my man let me 409 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: sleep on his couch in Harlem. And I did that 410 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: for like four months until like I was just so 411 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: broke that so I was like, I got mind you in. 412 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: I tried to school out. I think I enrolled in August. 413 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: I dropped out by November, and I was even quarteryati 414 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: I was raised by March. So it worked out. 415 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: But you mentioned that you were depressed in college. 416 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: Oh man, it was the darkest. Was that darkening? I'm 417 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: trying to think it was probably the darkest time. Yeah, 418 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: Am I still in the darkest time I've been through? Yeah? 419 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 3: Yeah? What what was so depressing about college? Was it 420 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: a situation that you know, you didn't belong, you didn't 421 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 3: want to be there. You was doing this for your 422 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: mom because now I want to do this, but I've 423 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: got to take a transition and do this in the meantime. 424 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 3: What was so depressing about it? Because women, you I'm 425 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: gonna be around that minute right there, yo. 426 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: Be hey girl, that's you true and it's so crazy 427 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: that that was why I was excited to go. But 428 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: I was such a I looked so different than everyone 429 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: at the time. They I was treated like an outcast. 430 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: I had like with two friends there, and I just 431 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: felt like I didn't belong. Had I been at Georgia 432 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: State or FVIT in New York or you know, like 433 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: a school where it's just more diverse and like, it's like, 434 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So like, I think a 435 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: part was that I felt like such a standoffish character. 436 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: I really wanted to do music. I had such strong 437 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: belief in myself, and it was hard to do from Alabama. Yeah, 438 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, I had friends that were like on social 439 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: media kind of bubbling and like doing a thing, you 440 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like, man, I'm seeing 441 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: my homies kind of pop and do their thing. I'm 442 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: in school. It shit sucked. I was broke in Alabama 443 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: and Alabama and no cars, like walking on dirt roads 444 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: type of shit. I ain't enjoyed it. I didn't even 445 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: like it just wasn't mine. I wasn't even really what 446 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: about the party in college, you know, the party be popping. Man, 447 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: it's so crazy. I went to one party in college 448 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: and I hated it. Bro. I was like, I was 449 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: in a corner. I was sitting in the corner like man, 450 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: because I just thought about bro. Before I went to college. 451 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: It was like our neighborhood had a lot of kids 452 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: in it. You had the kids that were older, that graduated, 453 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: went to high school, and they were graduating or dropping out, 454 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: and they were coming right back to the house. So 455 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: you're at home and you got that or she the 456 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: paper and you still ain't got no job. It was like, God, damn, 457 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: you got that and you're still here. I can't And 458 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: me and my mom got into it. I was like, Bro, 459 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: I can't go back there with that. On top of that, 460 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: being there with no debt is already stressful. Being in 461 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: mama house with that, that's crazy. I would never make 462 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: it this place, you feel me. So I was like, man, 463 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: I have to give this shop. I would have never 464 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: forgave myself. I didn't if I didn't give myself a chance. 465 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: So you leave Alabama, you come back home temporarily, and 466 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 3: then go to New York. New York was before, so 467 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: you went to New York before. So once you went 468 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 3: to college and came back. You stayed Atlanta. 469 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I told my mother. I was like, Mom, I 470 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: need an ultimatum. I need you to give me a 471 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: year off because I started school. But the way my 472 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: birthday is set up, I was just younger. I graduated 473 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: at seventeen, so I was younger than everyone. So I said, 474 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: I just give me a year. If things don't work out, 475 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: I'd go back and i'd be eighteen. I'd be the 476 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: same age as everyone else and freshmen. So just give 477 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: me a year. And I did it in less than 478 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: half in the year. But yeah, it's crazy. 479 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: And so what did your dad say? What was your dad? 480 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: My dad wasn't against it. You know what I'm saying. 481 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: My dad didn't. He didn't go to school. 482 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: So I mean, you're like, I'll follow your man. 483 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, well noah, I wasn't doing that, nah, because I 484 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: wanted to be great. Not that my dad was great. 485 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: My father's a king, but he chose a different path 486 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 3: through that. You wanted to make You wanted to be famous, 487 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 3: You want to make lots of money, you want to 488 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 3: be rich. 489 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I wanted to do something bigger than me, 490 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: bigger than what I thought I could do. You know, 491 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: bigger than with anyone around me, thought that we could 492 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: do and just make it out. 493 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: How did go into New York help y'alli's music career? 494 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: Going to New York helped me in several ways because 495 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: of the people that I met along the way and 496 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: just they'stilling, like getting it out of my mother's house, 497 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, Like I was always so independent, so I 498 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: was always like doing me, you know, so being that 499 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: far away from home, my mom had a curfew. My 500 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: mom here and play. You know what I'm saying. So 501 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: she used to give me a curfew and she used 502 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: to I just needed to spread my rings, you know. 503 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: And it was so crazy my whole belief in the beginning, 504 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: because like I could rap, but I didn't think I 505 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: was like the best rapper. But my whole belief I 506 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: was a banking on my appearance. Like I was literally 507 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: just banking on the way I looked, the way I dressed. 508 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm cool. I know, I'm cool. 509 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: That's what was going to sit you apart. 510 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like rappers like more than half is you, 511 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: your parents, your persona, you know, and then the music 512 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: is like the other portion, you know, like stars I 513 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: made from the embodiment of a spirit that is unusual 514 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: than the common ground of people. You know, that's why 515 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: people treat celebrities a certain way because you can't fathom 516 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: that person where it's like a voice that makes you cry, 517 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: makes you think about other things, or a person on 518 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: screen that just like made you feel them you almost 519 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: you just feel like that. But we are regular people. 520 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: But it's the character, and it's the image and the 521 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: energy which makes stars. You know, like because you got 522 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: people who make hits who love that song, who made 523 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: that song? You don't know because they don't have the 524 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: look or the image or the embodiment. So it's all 525 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: about your persona and how you carry yourself and the imagery. 526 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: The imagery is so important in entertainment, you know, the 527 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: imagery of a person because it's how we remember people. 528 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: You know, we remember you about brown alcohol and smoking, 529 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, 530 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: Like you know, and you know, getting women and tight clothes. 531 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying today You live loose of today. 532 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: But like, just even you think about the biggest people, 533 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: they have characters to them and like just like you 534 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: can call out things about celebrities or stars, and it's 535 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: just based on how we are as a person, which 536 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: separates us from the next rapper or the next athlete, 537 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: or the next commentator or the next actor, actress, anything. 538 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 539 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: So, yeah, you know. 540 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: That's just that's just what it is. 541 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 3: You know, you you were in New York and you 542 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: you were critical of New York fashion because you like, 543 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: New York is behind Atlanta. Now you know that's not 544 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: gonna be well received because New York is supposed to 545 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 3: be you're talking about when I said the New York fashions, Yeah, 546 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 3: it was so crazy? 547 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: Is that that was taken out of context? 548 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: Okay? 549 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: What I said was I was talking to Cash Cobaine, 550 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: and I was telling him that his friends, his friend group, 551 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: his type, like kids guys can't dress, you know what 552 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I was saying, like I love New 553 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: York dearly, you know what I'm saying, Like my my, my, 554 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: my kid was not anymore, but she was there. That 555 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: was like, I spent all my time in New York 556 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: and I still spend time New York. I'm in New York, 557 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: damn there every other week. You know what I'm saying 558 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm outside, so like I didn't mean it like New 559 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: York people can't dress. New York is the capital of fashion. 560 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: I was speaking on a specific demographic, right, yes, And 561 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: then I went on to say, like Atlanta people dress better, 562 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: and I was really honestly just talking talking about myself 563 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: for real, f you know what I'm saying, Like I 564 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: ain't you know, but Atlanta got some some fly people, 565 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: and we got a fly styles. But I was really 566 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: speaking on myself. It's so crazy people come to me 567 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: every day about this. Why I see things about the 568 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: whole New York can't dress. I didn't say that I 569 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: and I definitely wasn't pertaining to all of all New 570 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: Yorkers talking about I embody fashions of New York, you know, 571 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: not today, but like usually I'm in some tyms and 572 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: some big pants, right or some gene shorts. So I 573 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: think people took it out of context. I really don't 574 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: care though, Like I mean, it is what it is like, 575 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: but that's not what I said. I was really talking 576 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: about cash Is homeboys and the way they dressed and 577 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: like it's like like that crowded, but it is what 578 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: it is because that's what they say, there's like, you 579 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: keep on talking about New York, but you dressed like 580 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: a New York Yeah, I do. Like, yeah, I love. 581 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: I love the history of New York fashion, especially in 582 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: hip hop. I think Dipset was sick, you know. I 583 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: think I think Rocky is one of the best dressed. 584 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people from New York. I 585 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: think it's great fashion. Apper Dan, I mean I could go. 586 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 3: On the shorts and the teams like that. 587 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: I think that. Man. I like to say that I 588 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: brought it back. 589 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: I do. 590 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: I will say that everyone do that ship now. 591 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 3: Because Jada Jada big on the shorts of the teams. 592 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Back a couple of years ago, I had 593 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: the Genie shorts and people used to clown me. People 594 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: was clowning me for Genie shorts and teams. They like 595 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: it was on my ass. And now it's such a 596 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: prominent They. 597 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 3: Came back because you know, back in the like the 598 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: nineties and early two thousand, everybody teams, I mean Tim's 599 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: in every color from the from the brown to the black, 600 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: to the red to the green, the blue. Everybody had 601 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: the teams in every color, and they kind of went away, 602 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: but they're making a comeback. 603 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Now, it came back for sure, so you you back 604 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: rocking them again? I never I never stopped. I was 605 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: still bro' I don't know. 606 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: That's probably what messed up my hips, wearing them damn 607 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 3: heavy ass teams. 608 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: Well you do, that's possible. It's pobab could it could 609 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: also be playing football, but. 610 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: You know what, why you bulljib? That might be it. 611 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: I think it might be one percent of tim nine percent. 612 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: It's possible. Hey, what's up? Everybody is shining sharp and 613 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: I'm a role partner. Are you ready to lose an 614 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: average of fifteen percent of your weight? Faster? Meet? 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The Jim Jones challenge. 632 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 3: You said for one thousand dollars, and I guess he 633 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: meant you could take a thousand dollars. I want to 634 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: do he would take a thousand dollars? And who can 635 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 3: dress the flies? 636 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: We wanted to make it a show, Okay, we wanted 637 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: to take a thousand dollars. Okay, set a timer, right, 638 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: and then go out into New York, right and see 639 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: who it's. 640 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: Like one of them shows like shopping. You know how 641 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: to give you like thirty dollars and you got to 642 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: make a great meal, So you're gonna take a thousand dollars. Okay, 643 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: you got to put something together. 644 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: Do whatever you And who can make the best outfit 645 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: with a thousand dollars? In X amount of time. We 646 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: never did it, but it would have been fun because 647 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: because after the ordeal, I got on the phone and 648 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: like all of my New York friends, you know, and 649 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: just people that I respected from New York from I 650 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: talked to Royky and I talked to Osiris, and I 651 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: talked to Bari, and I talked to Nast and Jim Jones. 652 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: And because I was like, I don't want to I 653 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: want to make sure niggas don't really think that's what 654 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: I said, Like these people I'll be around for real, 655 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: for real, you know, and I respect, and so I 656 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: had to make sure that that wasn't the mob. But 657 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: they none of them took it that way, you know, 658 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: just people who it's so crazy way and that is 659 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: bro people you take like, I'm sure it happened with 660 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: this thing, a clip of something. 661 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: To get absolutely and that's the no one to go watching. 662 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no no, and it will get taken in 663 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: turn into a whole different ordeal. 664 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: Yes, it happens all the time. 665 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, did you listen to the whole video? 666 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 3: No, I just saw the clip. 667 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes see the Clint just read the hell Yeah, yeah, 668 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: it's crazy. People just take a picture and put the 669 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: words over the picture. It's crazy, bro, this is the 670 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: world we're in. 671 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: How did you get the Easy the modeling contract with Easy? 672 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 3: Was it a casting call? Did you have the hook up? Yeah? 673 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: I had a friend okay and he worked with Kanye West. 674 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: And it's so crazy. That's when I was living in 675 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: New York and uh man, I was so broke. I 676 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: had no money, know nothing, and he was just like 677 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: come falls and had I pulled the and he just 678 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: he just he kind of like had the power to 679 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: put me in it. It's so crazy because if you 680 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: watch that thing, they had a curtain over us before 681 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: or the show started and I was in the back. 682 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: I was on the last road, in the back, behind 683 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: all the people like I'm talking about, Like I was 684 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: still happy to be there, but I was like, nothing's 685 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: gonna come from this. Yeah, yeah, YouTube and last second 686 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: you know him and like they took me and they 687 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: put me right in the front, right right before the 688 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: curtain put off. They put me in the front, in 689 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: the front row. And and I like to say that 690 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: that really did help my career. It just put a 691 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: lot of eyes on me, you know. It kind of 692 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 1: made it a thing like man, who was this kid? 693 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: Who is this? And so that was cool? 694 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what you mentioned? Uh and you mentioned 695 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 3: an Asap bout three or four times? How do you 696 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 3: an asap become friends. 697 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: Same person that put me in the in the in 698 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: the Kanye thing. When I was in high school, I 699 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: was They used to call me when I was in 700 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: school on FaceTime and like I remember one time, I 701 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: was like I just got out of school. It was 702 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: like an evening after school or something like that, and 703 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: him and Tyler the Creator and like all these guys 704 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: called me. And I was around all my high school 705 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: friends and I said, what the you know what I'm saying, like, 706 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: and but it was just I had a homie that 707 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: was like kind of telling him like kind of just 708 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: brought me around, you know, And I did my own 709 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: thing though. You know, I always tell people, like it's 710 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: cool to like have a handout or have somebody in 711 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: the industry. But people will always pay more attention and 712 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: respect you more when they find out about you on 713 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: their own, you know, when their eyes come across you 714 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: on your own versus someone like yo check out such 715 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: and such, Like if they just doing it, you making noise, 716 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: if you just outside and you making noise, people will 717 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: pay more attention and respect it more, you know, because 718 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: people respect when they found something theyself. And I think 719 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: it's cool, you know, versus like I mean, I think 720 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: you can still get to respect when you know, if 721 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: somebody of good taste refers to you. But when people 722 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: come across you on your own, man, it's like it's 723 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: just a different energy. So that's why I was like, man, 724 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: make noise, make noise. It's easy to make the way 725 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: that the Internet is connecting. That was so easy to 726 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: make noise. Just be original, authentic and take a shot. 727 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: Take a shot and separate yourself. 728 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: You know. In that show, was that your first time 729 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 3: ever meeting Kanye? Seeing Kanye, did you get an opportunity 730 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: to interact with him? 731 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: Nah? I didn't, mm hmm. That was the first time 732 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: I saw him. I don't even think I saw all. 733 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: I saw him right before we went out. He came 734 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: and checked all our outfits right before I ran out. 735 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: But we went out. But yeah, I ain't say nothing 736 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: to him at all. I ain't speak to Kanye for 737 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: like a couple months after that till he invited me 738 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,479 Speaker 1: to his studio. He went to sign me actually, damn, 739 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, all of a sudden, you supposed to 740 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: be in the fashion show. 741 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 3: You had the back to pull you to the front. 742 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 3: I mean, hey, you moving at wharf sbeed. Now you 743 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 3: go from being at the back to the front to 744 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 3: potentially be inside. 745 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean from just being in college, like, yeah, I 746 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: think I had, but it wasn't. It wasn't overnight. 747 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 3: But if out like it, you know, a lifetime sometimes 748 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: feel overnight. 749 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I'm about to be thirty now. 750 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 3: Bro, wow thirty? 751 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: Yeah? 752 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 3: Whoa? You only got so many summer's left. 753 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: Y'all a on the way out the door, So I 754 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: get it. 755 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, y'all tell you something My 756 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 3: grandma used to say, what the tree is leaning the 757 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 3: feathers don't always fall first. 758 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: That was so country. Hey, when you driving your car, 759 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: you think about it. Yeah, yeah, damn, that was some country. 760 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 1: The tree leaning the furthest don't always fall first. Yeah. 761 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 3: See you're thinking I'm already out the door. 762 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, it's possible. But I'll tell you what. I'll 763 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: tell you what brown licking it's gonna keep leaning at 764 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: your but shouts out. 765 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 3: What you're saying. I only got one life. 766 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: Amen, and I and I respect we only got See 767 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: that's the thing, right, It's like it's where you gotta 768 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: find it. This balance. You want to find this healthy 769 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: balance between living a good life and responsible and being 770 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: healthy and taking care of yourself and and understanding that 771 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: you only get to do this once. 772 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 3: And it's once is enough. 773 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: Absolutely. But if you get so caught up in oh 774 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: I gotta be healthy, Oh, I don't need to go 775 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: out all. You know, if I go out and have 776 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: a good time, I could get hurt or something could 777 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: happen to me. Or you're like you damn, there go 778 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: your whole life. You'll be ninety and be like, damn, 779 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 1: I didn't do nothing. 780 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 3: A bubble fearful. 781 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta. You gotta enjoy yourself. You gotta put 782 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: yourself out there. You gotta really experience like that's all. 783 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: When I always think about marriage, I always think I'm 784 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: going off top of my back. Like when I think 785 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: about marriage, I always think about whenever I do finally 786 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: sit down and like am ready to settle down, I'll 787 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: have lived that life, won't have any curious bone in 788 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: my body about doing anything. Like with some type of women, 789 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: or with multiple women or whatever, because I'll ben I've 790 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: lived that life, and that life is that that life 791 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: has passed me is beyond, it's behind me. You know, 792 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: when I find someone I do respect and want to 793 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: settle down with, I won't have any like I respect, 794 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 1: but I'd be very curious on people who like meet 795 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: in high school and like that's the only person you 796 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: have been with, that's the only person you ever did 797 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: anything with. I respect it, but it strikes curiosity to 798 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: me because I'm just I feel like, does the human 799 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: brain or does that, like the human emotions not wander? 800 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: Does it? And I think it does a lot of times, 801 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: but maybe just the security and like that person under control. Yeah, yeah, 802 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not there, you know, I'm not there, 803 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: but I want to be there because I do. My 804 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 1: grandparents been together like fifty some years and I asked 805 00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: them at Thanksgiving last last Thanksgiving, I how do y'all 806 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: do it? And they both said space. You know, they 807 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: give each other space to have their own time, and 808 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: they live their own lives. You know, they you know, 809 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: do their things. You know, whether it's like his hobbies 810 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: is his hobbies and her friends or her friends and 811 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: they live life. 812 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 3: A lot of happens that they get older. They live 813 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 3: in the same house, but they don't sleep in the 814 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 3: same bed. 815 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: They really just like pals, roommates. 816 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 3: They have raised the family, that got the kids, they 817 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 3: got the grand kids, and that's just all about us. 818 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if it works for them, it works absolutely. 819 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 1: I think that. 820 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, let me ask you this, how do you 821 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 3: go from modeling in a Yeasy show to making music 822 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 3: with Kanye? How the hell did that happen? 823 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: Man, you got a funny boy. I thought I had 824 00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: a funny voice, that you got a funny boys. I 825 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: saw an animated character said, but how did it happen? 826 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: How does anything happen in life? Chance, I guess, and. 827 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 3: Preparation meeting opportunity. 828 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess when you want something and you 829 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: just go for it. I think everything that's happened in 830 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 1: my life I wanted and I told myself or like God, 831 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: like hey, I want to do this. I want to 832 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: be at this, I want to be in this place 833 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: in life. I want to be here. I want to 834 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: live like this. I wanna I want to I want 835 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: to look better physically, I want to whatever I mean, 836 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: whatever it was, I set that goal out. I didn't 837 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: just like lacks of daisical go through life that guy. Yeah, 838 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: like I'll do it one day, Like I said, I 839 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: need to do that. I want to do this, And 840 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: I guess it kind of helped me clear pathway, you know, 841 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: especially early on. I've done so much now, you know again, 842 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: like I always say. 843 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 3: Young Gajoe, you say you're about to be thirty and 844 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 3: you've been having that You've been on this journey since 845 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 3: he was seventeen. Seventeen. 846 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, seventeen is when I really truly started. I'm twenty seven, 847 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: IM about to be twenty eight, so like it just 848 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: happened so fast. But I did so much at a 849 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: young age, and I feel like I'm not even at 850 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: like I'm not even close to my peak. Like I 851 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: feel like I got another like twenty years of just 852 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: doing it, you know. 853 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, what about this? Uh there was a social 854 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 3: media comedian that used your song in want to Be. 855 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: One to skits callon Fox was his name, and you 856 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: felt that really like it jump started everything. Yeah, it 857 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: was like it was just the first viral moment involving me, 858 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: and it took it just took the song through the roof. 859 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: But again at that song was connected to some like 860 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: random guy who just like just made a record, it 861 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: would have just been that song, but it was you 862 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: with the red hair, with the image with the with 863 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: the other songs with it, And like I I continuously 864 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: hit that pot, you know, like I ain't just had 865 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: put that out and like that I banked off that. 866 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: I continuously hit that pot, you know what I'm saying, 867 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: Like and tried and everything didn't work. But like I 868 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: tried even to this day, it don't work, you know, 869 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 1: Like I don't. 870 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 3: You gotta be okay with that. 871 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: Failure happens, right, But if you continuously do the same 872 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: thing that you succeeded at, eventually people will get tired 873 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: of it and eventually you would get thrown to the 874 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: curve because people grow in life, right. No one is 875 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: the same for five years, yeah, three or one year? 876 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: You change, right, Like say. 877 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 3: He had to keep reinvitting himself. 878 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: Well, I just it's just for one I liked so 879 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: many things, so like I didn't even want to do 880 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: the same thing. But you just got to think of 881 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: by the end a standpoint from like you heard a 882 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: great song, right, and the song is a hit record. 883 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: And at the time when you had that song, you 884 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: was dating this chick you loved she loved it. Y'all 885 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: loved it. Y'all rolling together, y'all heard if y'all are eating, 886 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 1: y'all heard of y'all. This is our jam, we vibing, 887 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: we at the club, this is our record. You break 888 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: up with her, man, that is, I don't want to 889 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 1: hear that anymore. Right, you got a new girlfriend. I 890 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: don't want to hear that record anymore. Or like or 891 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: or the song came out. And man, when that song 892 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: came out, man, you was gang banging right and and 893 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: and you was just like you you love scraping the pot. Man, 894 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: you was making crack from two A to five and 895 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: you just was you. Crack was your thing. You had 896 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 1: crack and then you sold it. Then you met Jesus, right. 897 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 3: Right, Jesus, I don't want to do that no more. 898 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: Right, So now you're like, ah, man, this remind me 899 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: of that time, and like well even with clothes like man, 900 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: when this song came out, man, we dressed it like this, 901 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: and so you just got to keep going. That's why 902 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: Kanye West, it's such a visionary you know. That's why 903 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,720 Speaker 1: Drake is such a visionary. Tyler the creator, such a visionary. 904 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: They have always reinvented the wheel jay Z. You know, 905 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: like these guys are like they they're with the current times, 906 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, and that's why they'll always be respected and 907 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: looked at in such a highlight. 908 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 3: Prior to that comedian using that song in a skit, 909 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 3: did you know who he was? 910 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: And I think I only met him one time, but 911 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 1: I've always showed love to him socially, you know. I 912 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: hope he's well. I think he's from San Francisco. 913 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 3: You break him up a little something. 914 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 1: God, he never asked you got a close mouth. Don't 915 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: get fat. 916 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 3: Now, I gotta got something coming for you. 917 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: Bro. They're not okay, that's okay. I don't even know 918 00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: who he is right now. 919 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 3: You'll he'll know where you are, it will I bet? 920 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 3: I bet the look bet the older rappers, uh, they 921 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 3: was they weren't feeling you? 922 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: What it on? 923 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 3: What is it about all of us? 924 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't just me. They weren't feeling our generation. Yes 925 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: it was. It was a clash. It was a divide, 926 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: I think. But I mean, let me ask you a question. 927 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: When you see all these yards, I think before you 928 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: started like really killing it on TV and you got 929 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: this beautiful podcast and you're making a beautiful name for 930 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: yourself and your second life. All these athletes coming in 931 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: and you may not have been that guy because they're not. 932 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 3: Athletes who was like, yeah, Anya, you see it all 933 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 3: the time. They be hating O the younger because they're 934 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 3: making so much money, right, I mean, I was like 935 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl and now they make like one hundred thousand. 936 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 3: We made five thousand for the losers, ten thousand to 937 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 3: the winners. And you see guys making sixty million. They 938 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,919 Speaker 3: getting two hundred three hundred million dollar contracts. But when 939 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 3: I came along the money that I was making, the 940 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 3: guys in the forties and the fifties weren't making that, 941 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 3: so they could have he'ud have been envious of us 942 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 3: push it forward. I did what I did. I moved on. 943 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm happy for the guys I tricked for 944 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 3: Travis Kelson and Drunk and all those other guys I 945 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 3: had my time I was born. Yeah, mom, you mean 946 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 3: to tell me my mom had me she was twenty five. 947 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 3: I was like, mom, you couldn't wait to thirty thirty two, 948 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 3: So I could have got some of his bread. You're like, nah, 949 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 3: I was done. I was done. Like I started at seventeen, 950 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 3: I was done at twenty five. But no, I've never 951 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 3: been a jealous jealous type. And I see that a 952 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 3: lot with rappers. I see a lot with athletes and 953 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 3: other actors and actresses. Oh, let these young people. You 954 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 3: had your moment. You can't stay. You can't stay on 955 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 3: top of fifty sixty years. 956 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 1: I think everyone doesn't have that mindset. And I think 957 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: that it came around I think. I hate saying I 958 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: think so many times, but I believe that people just 959 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: didn't think we were here to last. It felt like 960 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: a fad at first, man, because it was it wasn't 961 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't caper him comprehensible. At the time, we were 962 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: just like kids with colored hair, and we dressed different, 963 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,399 Speaker 1: and hip hop stood for something different. At the time, 964 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: it was more like it was trap music. It was 965 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: the streets. It was and it's still those still play 966 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: a big part in it, you know what I'm saying. 967 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 3: But the Internet, now, yachty, it can happen just like that, 968 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 3: and they had to take step by stepping. Yeah, club, yeah, 969 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 3: you have a little song and it gets catch you 970 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 3: get picked up on on TikTok or get picked up 971 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 3: on something, and. 972 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: It's a good and a bad thing, right because now 973 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: we have a lot of like circulating. It's the same 974 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: with even with the podcast. It's just like what the 975 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: everyone being able to have a mic now, it's just 976 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: like a lot of ignorance gets spread widely quickly, And 977 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: that didn't used to happen, you know, like when you 978 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: had to get watch TV and you got you only 979 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: heard music on the radio and on TV. It was 980 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,919 Speaker 1: a lot harder. Yes, you know, even like getting news. 981 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: That's why we get so much false news now because 982 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: anyone can can can just publish it. But that's life, 983 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: you know. You gotta roll with the punches, you know, 984 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,399 Speaker 1: you take the good with the bad. 985 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 3: You know they call it mumble rap. Did you ever, 986 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 3: I mean, did did they ever make you question yourself? 987 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: Hey? 988 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 3: Nah? 989 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: I was never mumbling right ever, Like I understand it 990 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,399 Speaker 1: was like a lot of a lot of the peers were. 991 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't whether I was like rapping at the highest 992 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: level or not. I never mumbled. It was never like 993 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: a part of my like thing. But whatever I was, like, bro, 994 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: I really made money. 995 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I believe it. 996 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 1: So with the With that being said, like I negative 997 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: feedback never really bothered me. It just tickles me a bit, 998 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 1: you know, like all the narratives that I ever see 999 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: a by myself, Like there's a narrative online. It's so 1000 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: many narratives by its narrative that the colorist tickles me. Right, 1001 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,959 Speaker 1: I'm not a color at all, Like that makes no sense. 1002 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: But I'm just private about my dating life. Yeah, but 1003 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,919 Speaker 1: the people I have been seeing with have been rather 1004 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,320 Speaker 1: rather on the lighter side. Yeah, yeah, you kind of 1005 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 1: like them little I got That's who I got caught with. 1006 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: I got caught on the lighter side. But like I 1007 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: like the hall walks of women. You know, I got caught. Yeah, 1008 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: I got caught walking light right and right damn white 1009 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: kind of tight. 1010 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,320 Speaker 3: But but you like what you like. 1011 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: But I like all things. Yes, Like I'm not I'm 1012 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: not a freaking colors right, And I don't I don't 1013 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: know where this narrative came from, Like I don't know 1014 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: the people women just think I'm a bad guy. Really Yeah, 1015 00:50:53,440 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: it's crazy. I love women. Yeah you curiously though. 1016 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 3: Now, but you know what you mentioned something earlier, you 1017 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 3: mentioned like you never want to stay the same and 1018 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 3: you're always trying to constantly involve. So how were you 1019 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 3: when did that thought? When did that come to your head? Like, man, 1020 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm doing this and I'm doing really 1021 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 3: good at it, but in order for me to be 1022 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 3: able to sustain and grow, I need to improve in 1023 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,320 Speaker 3: certain area failing. 1024 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: I ain't had a hot career for ten years. 1025 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 2: You know. 1026 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 1: I had some down periods. I had periods when like 1027 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 1: I was killing it and I was like making the 1028 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: most money I haven't made. Then I had periods when 1029 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 1: in my money cutting half, like my show prices cutting 1030 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: half in that attendance at the show's cutting half, and 1031 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: my bill on festivals went up. You know, I went 1032 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 1: from performing later to performing higher in the show, like 1033 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, and this is later in my career, and 1034 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, not that it really matters, but like my 1035 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: social appearance dropped, my like someone pictures went down, and 1036 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: like how many people started watching my story went down. 1037 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: I watched all these things. So there was a time 1038 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: period when I was like, man, things are changing, and 1039 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: I had a certain lifestyle that was like that I 1040 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: had to uphold, you know, and so I had to 1041 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: figure out ways of reinventing my will, you know, and 1042 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: just showing people because I care so much, Like I 1043 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: love money, but I also care about the craft, and 1044 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 1: I care about music, and I care about artists, and 1045 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: I care about musicians who do great things. And I 1046 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: like to be in that conversation because I respect music 1047 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: and I hear it and I breathe it, and I 1048 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 1: want to make sure I'm a part of that. So 1049 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: I was like, how do I do that? You get 1050 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: your ass in the studio, you know, you want to 1051 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: be a part of the greatest athletes or actors. You 1052 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: get your ass and your craft and you show them right. 1053 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: And I still got tons of work to do, and 1054 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 1: that's what keeps me going. I enjoy I don't ever 1055 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 1: want to be like you. 1056 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 3: Don't never want to become complacent, Absolutely not. 1057 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: But I don't think I can. It's impossible for me 1058 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 1: because I enjoyed doing so many things right, Like even 1059 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 1: if I was to was not saying that happened. Guys, 1060 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,280 Speaker 1: don't fry me. But if I become the best rapper 1061 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: of all time, I would then want to be like 1062 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 1: the best, like rock artists or like pop art I 1063 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 1: would just I want to do something else, right, so 1064 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: I never become. 1065 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 3: So you don't want to scale them out and just 1066 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,280 Speaker 3: get up there and bask. You want to find another 1067 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 3: amount to client. 1068 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 1: It's just fun to do, you know. All of it 1069 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 1: is fun to do because it's limitless. You know, there's 1070 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: no I don't have a coach, I don't have a director, 1071 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: I don't have there's no direction. And it's also the 1072 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: hardest part about it because there's no one telling you 1073 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: which way to go. You know, music is like when 1074 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: you get to a certain level of music, you got 1075 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 1: to think about it. Man, these labels, they genuinely they like, 1076 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: they thrive off money. So if you sign to a label, 1077 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: regardless how much they tell you a man like, you're 1078 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: creative and do your thing and they make money, they 1079 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: thrive off for you making money. So they want you 1080 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 1: to make hit records, right, and a hit record think 1081 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: about think about the concept of a hit record. You're 1082 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: making a song for people right that you do not know. 1083 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't know any of you guys, right, Like, I 1084 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: respect you, you love me, You're a fan, thank you 1085 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: so much. I don't know you. So I'm supposed to 1086 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: be like, like, it's two sides of music. It's the 1087 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: people who made music for themselves, right, and what they 1088 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: love and what they like. And then you have artists 1089 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: who like deliberately or trying to make a hit record 1090 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 1: right like they want. 1091 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 3: To knock it out artists. Is that when you're going 1092 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:29,439 Speaker 3: out there. 1093 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. You know, when you're out there trying 1094 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 1: to do what you think is popular. A lot of 1095 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: artists do that, you know, and then some do what 1096 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: they like, and then that kind of shows, you know, 1097 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,280 Speaker 1: taste level. If you do what you like and it goes, 1098 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: you got good taste. If you do what you like, 1099 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: it's like this sucks two things, either your taste is 1100 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,720 Speaker 1: terrible or they just not there yet. Kanye West always 1101 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: did he wanted to do, and sometimes people don't understand 1102 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: it at first and they had to come around to 1103 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: it later. Tyler just dropped the album doing what he 1104 00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 1: wanted to do and people loved it. You know. So 1105 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,760 Speaker 1: I think it's all about I don't know, man, Everyone's 1106 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 1: path is different in life. You know. That's the one 1107 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: thing I always say, like you can give advice to 1108 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,240 Speaker 1: a certain extent, but like, my success won't be yours. 1109 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: You know, how I came up and the things that 1110 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: I did it may not necessarily be your path are 1111 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: your key, you know, not to say that there isn't 1112 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 1: a path for you, It's just that it's not always 1113 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: the same, you know. So I try to give it 1114 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: people advice with like stipulations almost like like this will 1115 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: happened for me. But like you know, but if I 1116 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: do see something that I can clearly see. 1117 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 3: Is off, I always try to, you know, partake some wisdoms. 1118 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, because they' nobody do it for me 1119 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: until like I got older. But in the beginning of 1120 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: my career and have it. 1121 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 3: You're dad with a famous photographer we worked without cast 1122 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 3: Kanye West, Lula and more. Did your dad You ever 1123 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 3: go to work with your dad? 1124 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes not always, but. 1125 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 3: I would. 1126 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: I would come to his house after work and he'd 1127 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: have all the like it'd be like it'd be like 1128 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 1: I didn't. It'd be like I didn't see him kill somebody. 1129 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: But I would come over and it'd be like bullet shells. 1130 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: What I mean by that is that he'd have all 1131 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 1: these people just like so like I didn't. I never 1132 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 1: seen him do it, but I would see it and 1133 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 1: be like and he'd be like yeah, this was last 1134 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: Friday and this was Saturday. And he flew around a lot. 1135 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: He was always gone to be like, yeah, he always 1136 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: went to places. My dad was always he's a big 1137 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: traveler and he's never home. 1138 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 3: Hate traveling. How you're gonna be how you're gonna be 1139 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 3: an artist and you hate traveling. 1140 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 1: But I hate traveling for leisure, okay, you know, because 1141 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm always on the road and I don't like hotel rooms. 1142 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,879 Speaker 1: They have no life, they have no they have no Yeah, 1143 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 1: it's just a stock photo on the wall, a really 1144 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: tightly tucked bed, uh and bad furniture and the TV 1145 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 1: with no channels, you know, and sometimes it shot with 1146 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: bad water pressure. 1147 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's true. Yeah, what what did you what 1148 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 3: did you learn most from your dad? 1149 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 1: Just to be myself, you know, Like I said, my 1150 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: dad used to drive a Mercedes station Wagon, a vintage 1151 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 1: whim And at the time I didn't understand old cars. 1152 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: When I was young. It was like Dad, this call 1153 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: cars oldest, you know, Like my mom had a new 1154 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 1: Beamer but not new, but like newer. My dad drove 1155 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: vintage cars, you know, And and he wore what he 1156 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 1: wanted to wear at the time when I was young, 1157 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 1: Nike was the my dad were new balances and it's like, Dad, 1158 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: what are these? 1159 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 3: Why are you wearing these? Right? 1160 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 2: You know? 1161 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: And when I was young, it just took a lot 1162 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: for me to understand my father did what he wanted 1163 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: to do, you know, when I grew up my dad. 1164 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: I would see my dad when I was young every 1165 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,919 Speaker 1: other weekend for the most part, unless he had to work. 1166 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 1: And he was never like a He was never like 1167 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 1: a like my dad never was like see them they gay, 1168 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 1: We don't do that, you know, Like he wasn't wanted. 1169 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 1: Like I used to hang around friends who parents they 1170 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: were like that. My dad was like he was a real, 1171 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 1: like accepting person of everything. 1172 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 2: You know. 1173 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: He was real, like life is just life, you know, 1174 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 1: almost like a hippie. But he wasn't a hippie. But 1175 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 1: he was kind of like he kind of black man 1176 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 1: in the South. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. He was. 1177 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: My dad was different. Is I'm talking like Dad's home, 1178 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 1: Like he's different. He's a different guy. And growing up, 1179 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: I think, and he listened to all types of music, 1180 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: and I think he just taught me to like do 1181 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,440 Speaker 1: you you know and like if that's what you like 1182 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: by the way I'm talking about things that sexuality, right, 1183 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 1: if that's what you like, like if you like to 1184 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: wear slecks with tube socks, or skinny jeans or loose jeans, 1185 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: or even a curl mustache or crazy hair, whatever, do it? 1186 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 1: You know. And it's crazy because he didn't tell me 1187 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 1: these things. I just saw it in him. I saw 1188 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: him dress how he wanted to dress. 1189 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 3: But he never said when you showed up with looks 1190 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 3: at a certain way, like boy, what you got don 1191 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 3: on for? Never why you look it like that? 1192 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: He honestly used to always be like, ah, you look cool, 1193 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: or like he always was like, you know, you look 1194 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: fresh or whatever, and he always played. I think I 1195 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: also went through him playing so much music. I like 1196 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 1: i'd be studying things, like when I was in school, 1197 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to be psychologists, right, so like I study things, 1198 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: so like even if you would play some music, I'd 1199 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 1: go and then I go look at their videos or 1200 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 1: see them perform live, or look at their pictures, and 1201 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 1: then you know, if you listen to rock music, they 1202 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: dressed differently, and you know they their shows are different, 1203 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 1: and their interviews are a little bit different, their charisma 1204 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 1: is different, and so I would just deep dive into 1205 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: all these different things, and so without him even like 1206 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: probably knowing that, it was just unlocking a much more 1207 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 1: a free Yeah, you know what I'm saying, A free 1208 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 1: way of a man who just I wasn't ever really judgmental. 1209 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 1: I never really cared and I just mind my business. 1210 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't really care nobody else got going on. 1211 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 3: Since your dad worked in the industry, he knew coach 1212 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 3: k you had that rapped only for a year, people 1213 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 3: like man yachty a plant. 1214 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't even Yeah, I didn't explain it. 1215 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 3: Tell me what the plant is because I hear this 1216 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 3: term a lot of times. What is a plant? 1217 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: Now? 1218 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 3: Because I'm thinking, you know, I grew up on a farm, 1219 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 3: and I know that what the definition of a plant were. 1220 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 3: We talked about we had to plant tobacco, we had 1221 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 3: to plant seed and across to grow. But what was 1222 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:44,919 Speaker 3: an industry plant? 1223 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: You playing tobacco? Yeah, damn. 1224 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 3: I grew u about three out south from here, r 1225 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 3: rural South Georgia where Glennville never heard of. Okay, you 1226 01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 3: know Savannah. Yeah, I'm about sixty miles from Savannah for 1227 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 3: south or close like inland. 1228 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: Savannah's right on the coast. I'm a little inland, okaytol 1229 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: cool cool. Yeah, an industry plan is basically so crazy 1230 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 1: because you don't really like you have them, but like 1231 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 1: they don't really succeed like back in the day, like 1232 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 1: but it's basically just like an artist that was made 1233 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 1: in house and it's put in position with other artists 1234 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 1: to kind of blend in block they're blessed, well not 1235 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: even block, but just kind of to blend in and 1236 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: kind of like skip the line. Okay, you know, like 1237 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: you kind of like if like if depth Jam found 1238 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: an artist and they felt potential and it just kind 1239 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: of stuck them next to future, you know, and like 1240 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 1: kind of tried to like how you get the future, 1241 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: like you know, or anybody don't got to be future anybody. 1242 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying like future, but just like anyone that's 1243 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,439 Speaker 1: kind of like what an industry plan, it's just someone 1244 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 1: that is more moving at the speed of light and 1245 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense how they're growing so fast, you know. 1246 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: But now it's just the it's just the way social 1247 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 1: media works. People can really overnight and explode, you know, 1248 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 1: and had nothing to do with sometimes they honestly, this 1249 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 1: industry they don't even know how to market a lot 1250 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 1: of artists. It's just so either you know how to 1251 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: work social media or it just works for you. These 1252 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 1: labels really don't be doing what they're doing. To be honest, 1253 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: that's truth, that's the real truth. 1254 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 3: So but when you obvitunally, you've heard that because they 1255 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 3: you skipped the line up. Man, how y'alli was right 1256 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 3: here one day and next thing I know, he and Kanye, 1257 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 3: He and Kanye fashion show, he doing music with Kanye 1258 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 3: Block x Y and Z. So how did that make 1259 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 3: you feel? 1260 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Like? 1261 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 3: You just keep your head down and say, y'all keep talking. 1262 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep making this bread and I don't worry 1263 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 3: about what y'all say. 1264 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't care because I was I was. 1265 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 3: I was so sad. 1266 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: You know, Like the thing with me was negativity never 1267 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 1: bothered me because I realize that, like, this world really 1268 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 1: is so big. And I started to get the perception 1269 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 1: that the reason you see so much hatred is because 1270 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 1: the people hating that's what they spend their time doing. 1271 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: You know, you got so many people that love you 1272 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 1: right and that cherish you and respect you. They're just 1273 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 1: living life. You know, you're not gonna spend your time 1274 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 1: like telling someone how much you just oh, I just 1275 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 1: love you. Some people will, but you you going about torday. 1276 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, if you listen to y'all and you love them, 1277 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 1: you in school, you at work, you're just doing it. 1278 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 1: You love them in life. You know, you go to 1279 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,640 Speaker 1: a show you support by merch, but you're not gonna 1280 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 1: spend all day talking about how much you love them. 1281 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: You just do it right. So like when I was 1282 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 1: like doing things and you know people are coming to 1283 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 1: me in the street, or I would do a show, 1284 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 1: or like I was just growing, It's like, okay, well 1285 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: someone loves me. Correct It's not like my bills are paid, 1286 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 1: you feel me? So like people just have more time 1287 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 1: to hate. It's a certain type of person. 1288 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 3: I never met anybody in the street that says I 1289 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 3: hate Shannon shark Man. No, I dislike and why you 1290 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 3: come up with that name? May you know how? And 1291 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 3: you make black people look bad by smoking black and 1292 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 3: mouths and drinking brown lick on TV. I've never heard anybody. 1293 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 1: No one's ever told me to my face till you suck. 1294 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 1: Nobody cares. 1295 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 3: It's only online. But you know what I had, I 1296 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 3: had to learn because you know, my sister says, Seanna, 1297 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 3: there's no possible way you could be ascending like you 1298 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 3: are and have more haters than supporters. But it took 1299 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 3: me a while because the thing is, what when you 1300 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 3: play on sport YACHTI if you like you're in an 1301 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 3: arena and they could be like, eighty thousand fans cheering, Yeah, 1302 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 3: we love you, eighty four we love you, Shark. It's 1303 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,440 Speaker 3: that one thousand that's booing that somehow is able to 1304 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 3: drown out the eighty thousand that's cheering. And I had 1305 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 3: to learn to tune my ear, to tune my to 1306 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 3: not hear the booze but only hear the applause. And 1307 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 3: it took me a while to get over that because 1308 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 3: when I was playing, I understood Steeler fans disliking me 1309 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 3: because I played for the Broncos in the Ravens. I 1310 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 3: understood that then, But now I'm like, what is it 1311 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 3: that I What is it that I'm doing in my 1312 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 3: life that causes you to dislike me so much? 1313 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 1: I think that people just have insecurities in themselves, and 1314 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 1: so they they mask it by taking it out on 1315 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 1: someone else. You know, your comfort maybe as a man. 1316 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 1: You know your masculinity and the things that you enjoy 1317 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 1: and the things that that you're comfortable doing. You know, 1318 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: it can make someone so uncomfortable because they aren't comfortable, 1319 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, And I feel no way for them. I 1320 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: have no pity because I love myself right, you feel me? 1321 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 1: And now I'm at the point now I look good, 1322 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 1: I smell good, I feel good. And I guarantee you 1323 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 1: any sisters or exes or current girlfriends that you may 1324 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 1: be involved with have in your life feel the same way. 1325 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 1: So all the SILD talk is irrelevant at this point. 1326 01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm speaking directly in the camera because I know you're 1327 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,960 Speaker 1: watching it hating at the very moment. I want you 1328 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 1: to understand that anytime you spend time being negative on me, 1329 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm someone like smiling. 1330 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 3: Y'all heard it. He looked that breaks in the camera. 1331 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 3: He's talking to a specific group of people. Don't hate mask. 1332 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 3: When you signed that big deal with quality Control, Yeah, 1333 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 3: what was the first thing that you did? You got 1334 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:27,439 Speaker 3: your first meal? 1335 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 1: I do that check in a week? 1336 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 3: How about was it like one three? I think in 1337 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 3: a week? 1338 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 1: What the hell you buy? 1339 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:35,959 Speaker 3: New York City? 1340 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 1: Man? The second I got that I never get I 1341 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 1: was in my mom's house and we lived in that 1342 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: same house my entire life, and I had two of 1343 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 1: the homies they was living in. I had this real 1344 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 1: smile room and I I remember I signed a deal, 1345 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 1: but it took like two almost three weeks for to 1346 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 1: check the cliar. So every day I woke up, I 1347 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 1: checked my bank account, woke up not there, woke up 1348 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 1: not there, woke up not there. One day I woke up. 1349 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 1: Motherfucker was in there. Man. I was screaming. I was 1350 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 1: talking about what. I went straight to Mercedes. Fu you 1351 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 1: talking about gea wagon? I need that, right. I was like, damn, 1352 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,400 Speaker 1: I can't beat g waggon my money. Okay, range over. 1353 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Pehouse, Grandma need the car. 1354 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Gucci. I need everything in 1355 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: this bitch, every color. I was going crazy. I was, 1356 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 1: I was eighteen. I was that money up so quick. 1357 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 3: Hold on, so you look you look at like, hold on, 1358 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 3: I just had one point three. I just got the three. 1359 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 1: No, I didn't think about it. It was just gone 1360 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 1: and I never looked bro It took years for me 1361 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,680 Speaker 1: to look at my bank account. I was making so 1362 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: much and Also I was so hot, Like I was 1363 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 1: making so much money, Like I spent the million and 1364 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:51,919 Speaker 1: that man in a week, but like I probably made 1365 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 1: it back in the next two weeks. Like I was 1366 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 1: making so much money, and I never I didn't even 1367 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: have a password to my bank account. If I started 1368 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 1: at eighteen, I probably had a password to my bank account. 1369 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 1: So I was like twenty four yo. Yeah, my mom 1370 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,400 Speaker 1: just marketed. My mom was my business manager, and she 1371 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 1: checked it. But I never checked my bank account. My 1372 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 1: cars never declined. I was I did. I wanted and 1373 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 1: give fuck. I woke up for like Bying and Bentley. 1374 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 1: I went and bought that Bentley. I was It was crazy, bro, 1375 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,599 Speaker 1: it didn't really make any sense the way I was living, 1376 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 1: it was it was insane. So yeah, I spent that 1377 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:22,559 Speaker 1: money in the week. 1378 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 3: So what what would you say? What was some What 1379 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 3: was the worst purchase you made? What was the best 1380 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 3: thing that you did? What you got some money? 1381 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 1: I think it's all stupid. You know, you only you 1382 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 1: only go to one place at one time. We don't 1383 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 1: need so many cars for you know, right now, I 1384 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 1: got like thirteen cars for what. Yeah, it's no I 1385 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 1: think it's stupid. 1386 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:45,920 Speaker 3: Downside two or three downside of yatta, like you just 1387 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 3: said you can only drive one. I like cars. 1388 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,519 Speaker 1: I know, I think it's I think it's all a 1389 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 1: stupid obsession. You know, even watch this. 1390 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 3: Why do we have so many that now you're talking 1391 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,760 Speaker 3: about I see that thing over there? You this little 1392 01:08:58,840 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 3: you know, a little man. 1393 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 1: But why why do we need so many protects? 1394 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:03,360 Speaker 2: You know. 1395 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 3: That's over Yeah, you know over work there, you got that. 1396 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,559 Speaker 1: But why do we need so many? I don't even 1397 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 1: look at this for time, you know, like. 1398 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 3: You let people know your time valuable. 1399 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true because I do. It's 1400 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 1: so crazy. When I am shopping, I feel like, you know, 1401 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,479 Speaker 1: they kind of overlook at me as I'm standing there. 1402 01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 1: I do sometimes like y'all got any signs and yeah, 1403 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,200 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh yes that and they start bringing stuff. 1404 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah they know. That's a great watch of the conversation. Peep. 1405 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,880 Speaker 3: They might not know who you are, but they look 1406 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,640 Speaker 3: at your wrists and they see a roller, and they 1407 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,120 Speaker 3: see an ap they see a protect They're like, okay, 1408 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:43,640 Speaker 3: a macharn. 1409 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,639 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, constant, Yeah, they know you mean something. 1410 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 3: Yes, they might not know who you are, but we 1411 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 3: we need to give this young man under by the 1412 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,680 Speaker 3: detention and then they see them. 1413 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,599 Speaker 1: That's true, it is, that's true. That's true. That's true. 1414 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. That I mean, I mean, but 1415 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 1: I think you could do that with one watch. You 1416 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 1: got one good Win, Yeah, I go. I got too 1417 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,720 Speaker 1: many watches. This I don't even want to talk about it. 1418 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 1: But like it's like I got so many things though 1419 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 1: I can say, like I just like if I what 1420 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 1: I do tell people is like man bro Savior money 1421 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 1: because I don't care about any of this stuff. I 1422 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: got thousands of tennis shoes that I don't never win 1423 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: there Eventually they'll go bad, you know, like they will I. 1424 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 3: End up selling just so like in November, like three 1425 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 3: hundred and thirteen pair. 1426 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 1: You feel me like and it's just that you just 1427 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,200 Speaker 1: you just do right having all them cards. They go 1428 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 1: bad because the weather conditions, just sitting outside fucking I want. 1429 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 1: I go through these different phases. Like one time I 1430 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,559 Speaker 1: went through phase I bought every video game system console 1431 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,000 Speaker 1: ever made. Why And it wasn't like I was buying 1432 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 1: them like just buying them used like I need them 1433 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 1: in pristine, brand new conditions. I was spending the top 1434 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,840 Speaker 1: dollar and it's just sitting in a corner. You know. 1435 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,200 Speaker 1: I had a weird obsession with toys at one point, 1436 01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 1: like collectibles, and it's just sitting in a box, and 1437 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,799 Speaker 1: it's like boxes, and it's like I spent like thousands 1438 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,559 Speaker 1: and thousands. I go so crazy and obsessed and then 1439 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 1: like I never do nothing with this stuff. So I 1440 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 1: always tell you, like, right, even jewelry. In the beginning 1441 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 1: of my career, I was spending millions on custom jewelry 1442 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 1: that like it's just worth nothing, you know, or in 1443 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,040 Speaker 1: my case, well in my case, my house got broken too. 1444 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,960 Speaker 1: It was all taken, right, so it's like it's just 1445 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 1: no point. Like, of course, spoil yourself and do good 1446 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:31,040 Speaker 1: things for yourself and reward yourself, but don't overboard it, 1447 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, like do something nice and enjoy it and 1448 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 1: be be like do something's gonna make you more money, 1449 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, because I spent a lot of money on 1450 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: things that it brought me happiness absolutely right. So like, 1451 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 1: but it's important to have people around, I say, like, 1452 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,320 Speaker 1: when you get into an industry and you start doing 1453 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,680 Speaker 1: making a name for yourself, surround yourself with people who 1454 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,600 Speaker 1: have been there, you know. So that you can be 1455 01:11:55,000 --> 01:12:00,160 Speaker 1: pointed in certain directions by people who have been been 1456 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,960 Speaker 1: down that path before. Because when I came in, I 1457 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 1: didn't have anyone. Right when QC first signed me, they 1458 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 1: were coming from an independent label to just now sign 1459 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,640 Speaker 1: into it becoming a major label, Capital Records, and so 1460 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,280 Speaker 1: and before me, they had a lot of street artists, right, 1461 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 1: and so it was kind of like we were same time, 1462 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 1: coming into like a different level of money right together. 1463 01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,120 Speaker 1: So like we just we didn't I didn't have no 1464 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 1: one over my shoulder, like do this with your money, 1465 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,560 Speaker 1: do that with your money. Don't buy that. That's the 1466 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 1: excuse me. Don't do that, don't do it. I didn't 1467 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,599 Speaker 1: have it, you know, But I grew up and called 1468 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 1: a better understanding. But man, it's so many ways to 1469 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 1: to take that money and make it backflip for real. 1470 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,840 Speaker 3: You brought two neighbors lake houses because they were too 1471 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,479 Speaker 3: close to your one? 1472 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:52,799 Speaker 1: What I bought one and then I bought Yeah. 1473 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 3: Bro let me get that off. 1474 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 1: It was. It was a nice guy. He threw a 1475 01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:01,280 Speaker 1: lot of parties, and he would have these pool parties 1476 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 1: and they were loud, and I could always I look 1477 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 1: out my window and they were always looking over at 1478 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,600 Speaker 1: my house like like like looking over in there, and 1479 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I hated. 1480 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,200 Speaker 3: That because he had tone told him you know who 1481 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:13,800 Speaker 3: lived next door? 1482 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,800 Speaker 1: Well, everyone in the neighborhood know I lived there with 1483 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 1: weird like because people will come through the boats blasting 1484 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,080 Speaker 1: my music on the speakers to see if I could 1485 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 1: come outside, and. 1486 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:22,879 Speaker 3: You did you go outside? 1487 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,280 Speaker 1: Hell no? Like even in the beginning, they used to 1488 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:32,439 Speaker 1: bring me cookies to like my house before I got security. 1489 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 1: They cool though, It's just white people being white. 1490 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 3: People being neighborly. Huh, unless you like that couple in 1491 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 3: Ohio and that's why were you while that's not your house. 1492 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 3: But we're talking about that another day. Let me ask 1493 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 3: you that hold on. You spend ninety one hundred thousand overniers, yeah, 1494 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 3: and a million dollars. 1495 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:54,840 Speaker 1: On dialon implants sixteen carrots. Yeah yeah. 1496 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 3: I mean unless you smile really really big, you can't 1497 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:57,920 Speaker 3: see them. 1498 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's just. 1499 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,400 Speaker 3: The mind says everything. When you go up and talk 1500 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 3: to somebody, you're always smiling and you laughing and you 1501 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 3: and people's face. But you can't beat the cavity creek. 1502 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 1: Now, man, No, hell no. But you know what I'm saying. Like, 1503 01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:15,960 Speaker 1: women love it, they do. 1504 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,559 Speaker 3: They women like a good Oh you have a pretty smile. 1505 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,679 Speaker 1: They love. Women love a good smile, clean noils, smooth skin, 1506 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 1: and a good scent. That's the key. And I want 1507 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,760 Speaker 1: to say they like a good physic too. But I'm 1508 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,840 Speaker 1: starting to meet women who don't care anymore, Like I 1509 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,639 Speaker 1: meet women who like chubby boys or like, uh because 1510 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 1: you like what you like. 1511 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 3: But I think that, well, you can be chubby and young, 1512 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:41,599 Speaker 3: you can't bet chubby and old. 1513 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,400 Speaker 1: That's true. What I. 1514 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,160 Speaker 3: Gotta stay in the weight room about to be so, 1515 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,120 Speaker 3: you know, And I think. 1516 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,080 Speaker 1: It's just accustomed to you probably at this point, right, 1517 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 1: Like is that not just a part of your it 1518 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:54,840 Speaker 1: is is. 1519 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,320 Speaker 3: But I know, like I'm getting I'm aging out of 1520 01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,000 Speaker 3: a demographic. I'm aging into a demographic that I I 1521 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 3: can't you know what I'm saying. When I was in 1522 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:06,960 Speaker 3: my twenties and thirties around Yeah, now slim picking for 1523 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:11,200 Speaker 3: your boy, that's true, that's true, especially when no you good. 1524 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,800 Speaker 1: That's the thing with people like you, man, y'all get 1525 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 1: to some age and you still like them young, you 1526 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,960 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, yeah, you like the same age girls, 1527 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 1: I like, yeah, when you get to a certain age. 1528 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,000 Speaker 3: I'm getting old, but my eyesight still young. 1529 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 1: Right, Okay, And with that, you got it. You gotta 1530 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 1: uphold a certain way because yeah, old and sloppy. 1531 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,400 Speaker 3: You can get you get one of the other young 1532 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,559 Speaker 3: and sloppy or older in shape exactly. 1533 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,000 Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna get older in shape women. 1534 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,080 Speaker 3: I guess no, no, no, no, gets exactly. 1535 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,840 Speaker 1: So we could do more face, more Instagram Live experiences. 1536 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,880 Speaker 1: There you fit that you go, yah exactly? That was Hey, 1537 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,880 Speaker 1: that was just an audio if ms Patt said that 1538 01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:03,559 Speaker 1: was for that was for the big for those who 1539 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 1: do brell. Yeah, those I get it, okay, those who. 1540 01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 3: I read with your monthly expenses with like fifty two 1541 01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,000 Speaker 3: k mon, you down there, I'm double you double Now 1542 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:15,640 Speaker 3: you're supposed to be going the other way? 1543 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:21,599 Speaker 1: Yatty Now I'm at one hundred. No for sure? Yeah 1544 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,000 Speaker 1: is that more than you? Hell? 1545 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:31,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, damn what you mean? Way way more than me? 1546 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 1: Really? Yes? Absolutely always you never was there. 1547 01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,599 Speaker 3: No, I ain't got no brand like that. I ain't 1548 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 3: had that money poured in like. 1549 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:43,280 Speaker 1: That, just saying cain yati. I'm gonna tell you one 1550 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,200 Speaker 1: thing I do. I'm a professional pocket watcher. Okay, all 1551 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 1: I do is watching the park. It's all I do. 1552 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: And last night I was on club YouTube channel and 1553 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 1: these views are substantial, and I know how YouTube payment goes, 1554 01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,200 Speaker 1: and I know her revenue goes. You do all right? 1555 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,360 Speaker 1: I do? Okay? Are you to do? Damn okay in 1556 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,600 Speaker 1: capital letters? So when you're seeing act like you and 1557 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna do it all right? Now, you do that? 1558 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:11,720 Speaker 3: I do pretty good? Pretty good? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1559 01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,160 Speaker 3: I see. You know c J who we've been together, 1560 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:15,639 Speaker 3: c J and IW. He worked with me at Fox 1561 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,840 Speaker 3: uh and when I left, I brought it with me. 1562 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 3: He and I EP the show. 1563 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 1: This podcast is, man, you are doing amazing things. I've 1564 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:30,840 Speaker 1: never seen it. Well maybe maybe maybe fucking buddy, But like, 1565 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,040 Speaker 1: ain't too many podcasts you can go down. They hold 1566 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,120 Speaker 1: and it's just like good views. I mean, your views. 1567 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,040 Speaker 3: Look good. But we put we do the best high 1568 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,120 Speaker 3: tech cameras. Yeah, J and I. We come up with 1569 01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 3: guests that we think are going to be very very interesting, 1570 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 3: have a great story to tell. The way we produce it, 1571 01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:49,640 Speaker 3: the graphics, the editing, the. 1572 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean, but you also it's also you you know, 1573 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 1: you can't you cutting self, yourself short. You You are 1574 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,280 Speaker 1: more than half of this this show. You know, people 1575 01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,639 Speaker 1: coming here because people respect you and people I think 1576 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,519 Speaker 1: value you and value that their time is in good, 1577 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:07,519 Speaker 1: good hands with you. 1578 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,640 Speaker 3: So you play a big part. I definitely allowed them 1579 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,800 Speaker 3: to tell their story. And that's why the videos are 1580 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,120 Speaker 3: so long. It's because I'm not trying to Oh, I 1581 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,120 Speaker 3: only got an hour. I want you to tell your 1582 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 3: story and its entirety, and don't feel like you're mad. 1583 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,599 Speaker 3: I left something else I which I could have shared 1584 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 3: this with this individual. I like for people to tell 1585 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 3: their story. It's respectable. Thank you. Investments. So now you've 1586 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 3: spind you got to invest something? Yeah, yeah, hell yeah, 1587 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 3: clearly you invest in diamonds. 1588 01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,160 Speaker 1: I invest in a lot of things. I don't want 1589 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,439 Speaker 1: to talk about none of my investments. But crypto man 1590 01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,600 Speaker 1: I did crypto. I was a scammer. I went to 1591 01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 1: jail for scamming. 1592 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:45,960 Speaker 3: Was scamming Pope man. 1593 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 1: I was poor, right, and so like I was, I 1594 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 1: was buying bigcoin in twenty fourteen. You know, we was 1595 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 1: buying big coins and none of the other stuff is 1596 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,920 Speaker 1: solely bitcoin because that was how we went on the 1597 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,280 Speaker 1: black web. And that's how I bought you on mation. 1598 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,840 Speaker 1: That's how I had your grandma's social you know they 1599 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,040 Speaker 1: only paid it, you can only paying bitcoin, and it 1600 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 1: was stumpy man. You get a big cooin back then 1601 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 1: for like five grand? 1602 01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 3: Yes, twenty five hundred. Because I had a guy and 1603 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,880 Speaker 3: I was just I was showing someone that he a 1604 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 3: buddy of mine, and he's like, hey, I'm just doing 1605 01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 3: this because you know, I like you, You're a good 1606 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,040 Speaker 3: friend of mine, and so just an opportunity to buy bitcoin. 1607 01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 3: He said, I can sell you ten now, and I 1608 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,040 Speaker 3: can sell you ten every six months, but it'll cost 1609 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 3: you twenty five It'll cost you twenty five hundred dollars 1610 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 3: a coin where years this this is twenty fifteen. 1611 01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:32,719 Speaker 1: Wow. 1612 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,840 Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about it, YACHTI wow, So you 1613 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,680 Speaker 3: know if I don't know anything about it, I said, nah, 1614 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,600 Speaker 3: I can't do that. Bro, I said, I can't do that. 1615 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,840 Speaker 1: I know how you feel down about that? 1616 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,680 Speaker 3: Sick. I'm sick because he's gonna sell me ten called 1617 01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:48,599 Speaker 3: it twenty five hundred. 1618 01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:50,720 Speaker 1: Was he a good friend? Did you trust? Yeah? 1619 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 3: I had met him about five or six times at 1620 01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,960 Speaker 3: and saw him at different places, and so I was like, man, 1621 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,800 Speaker 3: why not just buy? Why not just buy ten? I 1622 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,680 Speaker 3: mean I would have out of that, I would have 1623 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:05,519 Speaker 3: been I wouldn't have been there. 1624 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,720 Speaker 1: We do that though, I've done that so many times 1625 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 1: that when you beat yourself up about it. But I 1626 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 1: think that's the thing. I like, sometimes you gotta take 1627 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 1: those chances, you do, you know, But who would have knew? 1628 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I'm telling you I was buying bigcoin, and 1629 01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm talking about I was buying it with no money. Like, 1630 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,760 Speaker 1: had I knew that just keep an account and hold 1631 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,880 Speaker 1: some of that stuff instead of buying credit information, I 1632 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,120 Speaker 1: would have been. I would have been a millionaire, you know. 1633 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,840 Speaker 3: But I way more. But I would have never coup 1634 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:33,400 Speaker 3: what is coin down one hundred thousand? 1635 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,160 Speaker 1: I was thinking it went down a little bit, but 1636 01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,959 Speaker 1: yeah it's eighty. 1637 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,559 Speaker 3: Thousand, and you know you could buy I could bout 1638 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,080 Speaker 3: ten initially and then ten every six months. Let's just 1639 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:42,080 Speaker 3: say I buy fifty. 1640 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you would have been you would have been probably 1641 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,679 Speaker 1: been doing something different right now? Yeah? 1642 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, I still I've still have been doing this. 1643 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:49,760 Speaker 1: But it's beautiful. Then. 1644 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,000 Speaker 3: Look, they would have never known I had big coin. Yeah, 1645 01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,439 Speaker 3: but they'd have been science. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, right, 1646 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,320 Speaker 3: you know, I come to work on an elephant, right. 1647 01:20:59,520 --> 01:20:59,760 Speaker 1: Shut. 1648 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,920 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm just saying absolutely. 1649 01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,600 Speaker 1: I get it for sure. Yeah, I get it. They 1650 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,719 Speaker 1: were know I'm living yachty. I write everywhere. 1651 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,360 Speaker 3: Let me ask you, Let me ask your question, because 1652 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,640 Speaker 3: I think we both get this is what happens a 1653 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:18,080 Speaker 3: lot with us. Is that friends asking to invest in 1654 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 3: something of theirs, trying to help friends out. You shake 1655 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:23,720 Speaker 3: your head, yeah, you shake your head. 1656 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,760 Speaker 1: Goodness, Oh my goodness. This is a part of being 1657 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,080 Speaker 1: black and successful. Yeah. 1658 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:31,840 Speaker 3: How do you say? 1659 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,360 Speaker 1: No me? 1660 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:34,960 Speaker 3: It's easy? 1661 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:35,320 Speaker 2: No? 1662 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,240 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, not like that. You. I think that's an 1663 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,960 Speaker 1: older mentality, like y'all just y'all comfortable with no? 1664 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta be if you don't put the living. 1665 01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,120 Speaker 1: Way about when you was in the league. 1666 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,280 Speaker 3: Was it easy to then, Yeah, yeah, because I've never 1667 01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,519 Speaker 3: really had a whole bunch of friends. I've had my 1668 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 3: friends and were cool. We were cool when I was 1669 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 3: in the league and when I was in college, and 1670 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,320 Speaker 3: we're cool now. And so for me, because you have 1671 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 3: to put limits, You have to put limits on what 1672 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 3: you give, because takers will never put limits on what 1673 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,400 Speaker 3: they take. So if you just give, give, give, they'll take, take, take, 1674 01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 3: And then the moment you tell them no, you ain't. 1675 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,960 Speaker 1: Ish, then you're fake. Yeah yeah you got all that money. 1676 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,320 Speaker 1: Did all your friends do something? No? 1677 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,559 Speaker 3: No, my friend one of my college friends, Uh, he's 1678 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,840 Speaker 3: still he's still one of my best friends. I really say. 1679 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,400 Speaker 3: I got two best friends, Keith Burns and Daryl McCormick. 1680 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,479 Speaker 3: And we're like brothers. I ain't gonna say we like brothers. 1681 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,519 Speaker 3: We are brothers. The only thing the difference is we 1682 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,280 Speaker 3: don't have the same blood, we don't have the same parents, 1683 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,639 Speaker 3: anything like that. But because I look at this, I'll 1684 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 3: measure my friend, y'ady. If the roles were reversed, I 1685 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,360 Speaker 3: was in their shoes, they were in my shoes. They 1686 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,240 Speaker 3: would help me just like I helped them. Absolutely, That's 1687 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,599 Speaker 3: that's the only that's the only way I can measure 1688 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,040 Speaker 3: a friend. If the roles were reversed, how would he 1689 01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:53,479 Speaker 3: treat me? 1690 01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,599 Speaker 1: And if they and if shit gets STICKYO gonna be there. 1691 01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 3: They're gonna ride. You know I'm saying. But what I like, 1692 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,800 Speaker 3: I think, what I like most of bottom Yachty is 1693 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 3: that they tell me what I need to know, not 1694 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,840 Speaker 3: what I want to hear because even though we've been 1695 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 3: friends for thirty plus years, my homeboy say, homeboy, you 1696 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,320 Speaker 3: know you my homeboy and I love you, but you 1697 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,600 Speaker 3: were wrong in this situation. You shouldn't said that. You 1698 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 3: shouldn't have done that. That's important because a lot of 1699 01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,000 Speaker 3: times people will tell you what you want to hear 1700 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,760 Speaker 3: because they don't want that bus to stop and you 1701 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:22,840 Speaker 3: open the door and ask them to get off, so 1702 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,400 Speaker 3: they go, yeah, man, you right, Man, you got a 1703 01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:26,200 Speaker 3: way to tell them. 1704 01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And it's so crazy. That's the thing about 1705 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,320 Speaker 1: when you get into this industry, man, you it's so 1706 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,559 Speaker 1: hard to tell it is. You know, so many people 1707 01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:43,160 Speaker 1: want to just ride pause Jesus so so like but 1708 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:48,000 Speaker 1: you but they just they just disguise themselves, you know, 1709 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,479 Speaker 1: and sometimes it take a real nasty incident for you 1710 01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:55,600 Speaker 1: to find out. You know, I'm so like, I'm so 1711 01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,840 Speaker 1: used to just like people turning their backs. They're like, 1712 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm so numb. I'm so used to like doing for 1713 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,280 Speaker 1: people and like being there for people and like them 1714 01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,759 Speaker 1: just like slim and snaking. 1715 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,320 Speaker 3: They're like, you can do something for people one hundred times, 1716 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,640 Speaker 3: but it's that one o one that you don't do that. 1717 01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,439 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you now you're a bad guy. 1718 01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,000 Speaker 1: I did one hundred things for one hundred people. 1719 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the devil, you know. You know those 1720 01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,200 Speaker 3: saying the devil will never show up as the devil 1721 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:24,880 Speaker 3: because if he did, he wouldn't let you. You wouldn't 1722 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 3: let him in your circle. Yati, Damn. He said, I 1723 01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,679 Speaker 3: got to show up as a friend because I gotta 1724 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,679 Speaker 3: get close to you. If I showed up as the devil, 1725 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:33,160 Speaker 3: you actually gonna do the deal. 1726 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 1: Some people will. 1727 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,120 Speaker 3: It'll depends on what it's at the end of it. 1728 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,040 Speaker 3: Hunh what that deal didn't tell? 1729 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think a lot of people do a 1730 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,879 Speaker 1: lot of things for small rewards. 1731 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,439 Speaker 3: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two 1732 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,719 Speaker 3: is also posted and you can access it to whichever 1733 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,240 Speaker 3: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just 1734 01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,160 Speaker 3: simply go back to club shap profile and I'll see 1735 01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:58,479 Speaker 3: you there.