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Speaker 1: more about it later, but let's talk to Ken Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: right now about these extensions. Extension season starting during the season,

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Speaker 1: this time of year. Ken, So what do you think

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Speaker 1: of some of the latest that we just covered. Cooper

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Speaker 2: Well, I heard you guys talking about the potential of

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Speaker 2: a lockout and a workstoppage and the CBA and how

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Speaker 2: that might be affecting things. I'm not sure that is true.

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Speaker 2: Deals like Emerson's we've seen over the years, and he

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Speaker 2: would try to sign them to an extension. We can

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Speaker 2: cite any number of examples guys like Colt Emerson who

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Speaker 2: he has not had offensive success even at Double A

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Speaker 2: at this point in his career. But for Milwaukee, a

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Speaker 2: small market team, they're taking a chance, they're gambling that

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Speaker 2: that point this will work out for them. So in

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Speaker 2: each case, I don't know if you're a team looking

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Speaker 2: at anything going forward and you can say, well, there

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Speaker 2: I don't know that you can operate that way. You

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Speaker 2: can't operate in the dark. So you have to do

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Speaker 2: and make moves that are in front of you and

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Speaker 2: do the best things for your organization under the current

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Speaker 2: set of circumstances. And we've seen that with the Cubs

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Speaker 2: signing their big deals with the guys the last couple

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Speaker 2: we've seen this with these extensions.

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Speaker 3: Do you know the rules on our teams allowed to say, yes,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna call you up if you sign this extension.

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Speaker 3: Is there verbiage where that's not allowed. We assume that,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it is in the CBA that

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Speaker 2: you can not do that. I don't know, honestly, Eric,

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Speaker 2: And clearly these things are dangled from time to time

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Speaker 2: definitely something that we've speculated on with regard to Connor Griffin,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know that it even affects Emerson. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure he'll be in the big league soon, but he

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Speaker 2: And Pratt he's not going to be in the Big

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Speaker 2: So I don't know exactly what the rules are there.

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Speaker 2: My guess is you cannot do that, but I don't

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Speaker 3: Am I correct in saying that when I look at

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Speaker 3: a contract like ninety million for a guy who's not

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Speaker 3: a way of us as fans valuing what teams actually

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Speaker 3: value ninety million dollars because it is a gamble when

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Speaker 3: you don't have a player that has any big league

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Speaker 3: that showing us ninety millions really not that much for

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I would say that, Eric. It

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Speaker 2: is interesting that a small market team like the Brewers

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Speaker 2: if the sport is so broken, how can that happen.

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Speaker 2: The Brewers would counter by saying, the sport is broken,

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Speaker 2: That's a debate that will of course go on and

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Speaker 2: all have models, projection models, basically statistically based things that

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Speaker 4: Ken, is there anybody next?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there are conversations going on. There have been

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Speaker 5: Right now that are.

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Speaker 2: In the early season performing extremely well. Go from south

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Speaker 2: AJU know this, They take place all the time. Now.

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Speaker 2: The teams always get them to the finish line. No,

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Speaker 2: and in many cases it is. But then there are

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Speaker 2: examples like Scott Kingery, remember him. He got a deal

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Speaker 2: I would say there's more risk with Pratt than Emerson

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Speaker 2: But At the same time, teams don't do these things

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Speaker 1: I've got one more while we're on this topic, Ken,

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Speaker 1: and then we can move on. It sounded like Gunner

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Speaker 1: Orioles figured it out, Samuel Pisallo, but how important do

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Speaker 1: We're comping the status of where they are in service time.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Gunner Henderson now a few years into his career,

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Speaker 1: I mean I want to say, like kind of leak

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Speaker 2: Players are always going to say they're open to extensions,

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Speaker 2: So I would say the odds of the Oriols signing

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Speaker 3: You wrote that MLB's highly riveting ABS system is a

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Speaker 2: Well, there are always tweaks you can make to any

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Speaker 2: And yes, this is correcting egregious mistakes. The problem is,

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Speaker 2: I would want to ask his opinion of it and

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Speaker 2: my question, is it good, Joe or is it bad?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm least worried about the Phillies, honestly, because we've

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Speaker 2: I want to see it, so way too early to

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Speaker 3: But can you judge can you judge Mitello and what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Eric, and I thought those comments were misplaced.

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Speaker 2: It's two games at that point, and he should not

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Speaker 2: We're not worried. So, yes, you can judge these things

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, come on. I mean we even had some

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Speaker 2: Last year, Scott, last year. I don't remember the date exactly.

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Speaker 2: They led the majors in every category, not every category,

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Speaker 2: of course not, and that's kind of what my job is,

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Speaker 2: But you got to be reasonable about it, and you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good call. The pitching crumbled for the Mess and

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Speaker 1: first couple months of the season. So much will change. Ken,

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Speaker 1: the extensions, perfect timing to have you on JB. What

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so let's start with cold Emerson. I think Jerry

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Speaker 6: Depoto and the Mariners did a really good job of

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Speaker 6: ninety five million. They got a club option that basically

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thank you very much. Might have another, you know.

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Speaker 6: Roman Anthony got nine years, one hundred and thirty million

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Speaker 5: They just do.

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Speaker 6: As long as the player lives up anywhere to how

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Speaker 5: To they're gonna win.

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Speaker 6: And I guess the example I always use with everybody

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Speaker 5: The two best prospects in baseball.

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Speaker 6: One of them decided they wanted that long term, one

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Speaker 5: Deal early, so Ronal Kunya took it. That's great.

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Speaker 6: Vladimir Gerro Junior said, now I'm going to go through

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Speaker 5: Hundred million dollar deal.

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Speaker 6: So this year, Ronal Kunu will make seventeen million, vladimirk

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what happened.

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Speaker 6: So you get that security early, you get that first

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Speaker 6: what cold Emerson just did, just like ron kue you did.

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Speaker 5: Several years ago.

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Speaker 3: Say cold Emerson said no, And then you know, you

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Speaker 3: So is there a way that a player can increase

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Speaker 6: Correct, No, I mean I think, if I'm Connor Griffin,

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna look at it.

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Speaker 6: As one hundred and thirty million over nine years, and

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Speaker 5: It's going to be, will benefit from that.

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Speaker 6: I think the market change is not because of what

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Speaker 6: got a market deal. Look, there's risk on both sides, right,

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Speaker 6: what do we have two acls on Acunya? So I

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Speaker 6: mean the Braves, you know, they paid a little bit

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Speaker 6: of a price there, right for doing it, and Acunya

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Speaker 6: took a risk. Well, look, I don't blame the players

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Speaker 6: that want to do these deals, like you're that young,

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Speaker 6: you haven't proven anything, and you're guaranteed one hundred million

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Speaker 6: with the idea that you know Acuna is going to

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Speaker 6: be able to go back on the market and make

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Speaker 6: another three hundred million. By the way, it's not like

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Speaker 6: this is all he's going to make, but it did

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Speaker 6: he lead money on the table.

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Speaker 5: Sure, but at the same time, he chose to have

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Speaker 5: that job security.

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Speaker 6: And so whether it because of your dad and maybe

447
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Speaker 6: you're inheriting money, I mean everyone's financial background is different. Certainly,

448
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Speaker 6: there are some people that just want that guarantee money.

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Speaker 6: They don't want to have to play every year for

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Speaker 6: getting paid. So I think when you're running a club,

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Speaker 6: you know, you want to control players, and you want

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Speaker 6: to get them at the best possible deal. You know,

453
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Speaker 6: for the Seattle Mariners to get Cold Emerson at this

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Speaker 6: dollar value, it's going to help.

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Speaker 5: Them build the team around him.

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Speaker 6: When he starts to get to being a five plus,

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Speaker 6: a six plus, and.

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Speaker 5: Those first couple of years three years of free.

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Speaker 6: Agency, Mariner is going to have a lot more money

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Speaker 6: than if they had gone through the system with him.

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Speaker 4: The other extension was Cooper Pratt right with the Brewers

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Speaker 4: not a big market team signing to a guy in

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Speaker 4: double A who hit two forty last year, two thirty eight, Right,

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Speaker 4: not a lot of power for fifty million dollars. But

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Speaker 4: I thought the Brewers had no money and no low

466
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Speaker 4: market teams can't compete, and YadA, yadayada, all the crap

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Speaker 4: here all the time, Jim does the Brewers think there's

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Speaker 4: more tank than what we've seen so far? They must, right,

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Speaker 4: in order to sign him to a deal like this

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Speaker 4: for a guy that, I mean, let's be honest, didn't

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Speaker 4: do great in double A.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's a lot there.

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Speaker 6: First of all, what's eye popping to me is he's

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Speaker 6: a Scott Boris client, and Scott Boritz has only done

475
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Speaker 6: one pre arbitration deal like this in his career, and

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Speaker 6: that was Lewis Gonzalez, if you remember. So kind of shocking.

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Speaker 6: I reached out to Scott about an hour ago. I

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Speaker 6: haven't heard back yet. I'm really fascinated to kind of

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Speaker 6: understand what his thinking was here, because this is not

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Speaker 6: a normal deal that he would do.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: I think from the Brewers' perspective, Matt Arnold really likes

483
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Speaker 6: Cooper Pratt. He and Jesus made their future at shortstop

484
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Speaker 6: and third base for this team. That's that's what they're

485
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Speaker 6: waiting for, is those two guys to come around. This

486
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Speaker 6: guy six four is a really good defender, gonna stay

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Speaker 6: at shortstop. He's a plus defender. This guy's been on

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Speaker 6: base guy, he'll draw walks, he's got great makeup, good

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Speaker 6: baseball IQ. I'm not that worried about the two thirty

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Speaker 6: eight batting average. I think when I'm looking at this

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Speaker 6: dollar figure, though I don't view it, probably the same

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Speaker 6: as you do, and probably the same as people looking

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Speaker 6: at Oh wow, that's fifty million. I look at it

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Speaker 6: as it's only fifty million for eight years. So even

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Speaker 6: if he becomes an average player, even if he becomes

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Speaker 6: a fifth infielder, eight years and fifty million, it's not

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Speaker 6: that bad. I mean the big leagues, we have guys

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Speaker 6: like Nick Martinez to get the qualifying offer and get

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Speaker 6: paid twenty million for one year.

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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna get.

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Speaker 6: Him for six years plus two free agent years at

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Speaker 6: a total value of fifty million. Now, look, we haven't

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Speaker 6: seen the whole contract. There's gonna be escalators and bonuses,

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Speaker 6: and the fifty million is gonna be deceiving. But you know,

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Speaker 6: I looked at it, and what the Brewers need to

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Speaker 6: do and what they should do is how can I

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Speaker 6: keep my players as long as I can.

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Speaker 5: I can't keep Freddy Perrault to past six years. I

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Speaker 5: can't afford it.

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Speaker 6: If I don't sign Jackson Churio before he plays a

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Speaker 6: single game, I won't get to keep him either. But

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Speaker 6: you know, because Churio's got a chance to be thirty

513
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Speaker 6: thirty or more like, he's going to be a star,

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Speaker 6: and they were able to lock him out, and look

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Speaker 6: at his contract, by the way, his contract was in

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Speaker 6: the eighty five million, I think, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 6: So look what Emerson just got right. So Milwaukee by

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Speaker 6: signing Churio just save millions there. So I just think

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Speaker 6: it's reasonable for the talent, and I don't think there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of risk.

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Speaker 5: At eight years fifty.

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Speaker 6: Million, that's not a lot of money for an eight

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Speaker 6: year major league career, as long as you believe in

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Speaker 6: the player.

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Speaker 2: JB.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to mix in your thoughts on the rookie

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Speaker 1: class by taking what we're talking about here and then

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Speaker 1: asking you who would you be NonStop texting and calling

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Speaker 1: your owner about that you're seeing right now and saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's just try and throw the bag at the sky,

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Speaker 1: because he is not going to get any cheaper. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you want to rank a few after one, but

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Speaker 1: if you want to pick one from what you've seen

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Speaker 1: in this opening week, go for it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And these are guys just in the big leagues, right,

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Speaker 6: we're not talking to Okay, So yeah, So Kevin mcgonagall's

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Speaker 6: won for me. And look, we've been comparing him to

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Speaker 6: Chase Utley forever, but he's got a little Tony Gwynn

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Speaker 6: and Wade Boggs in him too. Right, Short, compact to

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Speaker 6: the ball, love the swing, he barrels it, up. This

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Speaker 6: guy's a hitter, a big He's gonna win a batting

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Speaker 6: title in his career. There's no doubt in my mind

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Speaker 6: anybody has that hit tool.

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Speaker 5: Can I have more of him? Please, thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Not a lot of risk.

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Speaker 6: Love him. South Stewart of the Cincinnati Reds the real deal.

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Speaker 6: I mean Terry Frankcona had a hitting cleanup opening Day.

549
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Speaker 6: Terry Francona. It's not gonna put a rookie hitting clean up.

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Speaker 6: Tito doesn't do that. You do it with South Stuart.

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Speaker 6: This guy's a pro hitter. And if you watch his

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Speaker 6: home run Saturday, is like I got goosebumps everywhere. It

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Speaker 6: was absolutely stupid. JJ Weatherhold's gonna hit. There's no doubt

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Speaker 6: in my mind. Twenty homers, twenty steals. He's a high

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Speaker 6: baseball IQ. He works hard on his defense. Eventually he's

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Speaker 6: going to be good at second base. Defensively, still has

557
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Speaker 6: some work to do, especially to his right, but I

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Speaker 6: think he's gonna really hit and chase the lotters. The

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Speaker 6: most fascinating on the ball for me because I had

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Speaker 6: never really seen him until October right of last year

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Speaker 6: in the postseason, and I'm looking at that Swingle and

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Speaker 6: that thing's real. And you watch him take BP and

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Speaker 6: it's like upper deck stuff, and it's like, I went back,

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Speaker 6: I look at the stats. The guy's never at home runs.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, wait a minute, this is not translating. This

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Speaker 6: does not make sense. But you go back and he's

567
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Speaker 6: had a lot of injuries, and you know, sometimes power

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Speaker 6: usually is the last thing that comes from a guy

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Speaker 6: like this. But yeah, he's also really impressive to me too.

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Speaker 6: I love the start that he's had, especially after he

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Speaker 6: pulled the first three homers, the other one going OPO.

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Speaker 6: I was like, all right with that back spin, thank

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Speaker 6: you very much.

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Speaker 5: So that was great.

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Speaker 6: But to answer your question, mcgonagall's my guy of all

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Speaker 6: of them.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, another guy that I'm pretty sure you're

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Speaker 3: pretty high on, Paul Skeins. It came out that it

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Speaker 3: came out that the Yankees offered for their top prospects.

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Speaker 3: I want you to evaluate from your GM set who

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Speaker 3: got that trade right and who got it wrong? Because

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Speaker 3: the trade didn't happen, obviously the Pirates turned it down,

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Speaker 3: or what else would you have added to say, Okay,

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Speaker 3: the Pirates would accept this.

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Speaker 6: So the Yankees should not have offered what is being

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Speaker 6: said they offered. If they did offer it, I don't

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Speaker 6: have confirmation they offered it, but based on the report

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Speaker 6: that's there, the Pirates should have gone ahead and closed

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Speaker 6: the deal immediately. For me, so let's kind of go

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Speaker 6: through why I view it that way. And I love

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Speaker 6: Paul Skeins, don't get me wrong, but I know that

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Speaker 6: when his free agent days are up. He's not going

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Speaker 6: to be able to sign long term in Pittsburg. They're

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Speaker 6: not going to pay him four hundred million or whatever

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Speaker 6: it's going to take at that time. So you know

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Speaker 6: your your length of life with Skeens in Pittsburgh if

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Speaker 6: in fact you were offered camp Schlitler, I think he's

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Speaker 6: going to be a one. I said that last year,

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Speaker 6: and that's before the development of the cutter. This year,

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Speaker 6: I think at the makeup, the delivery, the stuff, I

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Speaker 6: think he's a one. I just think he's an ace legranier.

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Speaker 6: You watch him in spring training one hundred and two

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Speaker 6: hundred and two hundred and two, easy free makeup character.

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Speaker 6: He's either a top the rotation starter or an impact closer.

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Speaker 6: I don't know which one he's going to be. But

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Speaker 6: we were talking, you know, all Star games for him

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Speaker 6: and Schlitler, so love both of them.

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Speaker 5: I love Lombard.

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Speaker 6: I think he's their best position player prospect in the system.

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Speaker 6: I think you can play second, short, or third wherever

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Speaker 6: they put him. In spring training, you look like a

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Speaker 6: plus defender to me. Great instincts, good blood lines, as

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Speaker 6: we all know, short, quick to the ball, great instincts,

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Speaker 6: reads the ball off the bat extremely well.

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Speaker 5: I love his takes.

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Speaker 6: Going to be a star, and that Spencer Jones is

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Speaker 6: I don't know what he is yet. I know that

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Speaker 6: there's thirty to forty homers in there. I know there's

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Speaker 6: thirty steals in there. I don't know how many strikeouts

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Speaker 6: are one hundred and eighty or two fifty, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I got to keep watching.

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Speaker 6: It's a very bizarre approach, that two step kind of

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Speaker 6: locked thing in the back. So I haven't figured that

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Speaker 6: out yet, but I know the tools are off.

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Speaker 5: So if I'm Pittsburgh and I got.

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Speaker 6: Offered those four guys that I could control for six

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Speaker 6: years and not have to pay any of them for

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Speaker 6: three years, I have a better chance of winning with

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Speaker 6: those four guys, and I have a better chance of

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Speaker 6: winning longer with those four guys. So, if in fact

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Speaker 6: they were offered that, which I highly doubt, Ben Sherrington

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Speaker 6: should have made that deal immediately and called a press conference.

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Speaker 3: All right, when you make twenty six predictions, like your

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Speaker 3: article is twenty six predictions, you're guaranteed to stir somebody's

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Speaker 3: hornett hornet's nest. But you're also guaranteed to be wrong.

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Speaker 3: So I'm willing to let you whittle it down to

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Speaker 3: your top two predictions that you're like, these are locks,

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Speaker 3: because we always love doing our locks on here.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I'll just take the simple ones. The Los Angeles

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Speaker 6: Dodgers winning the NL West. Okay, I'm going to take that.

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Speaker 6: I love that Aaron Boone leading all managers in ejections

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Speaker 6: with ten. I like that one as well, So I'll

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Speaker 6: go with those two.

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Speaker 3: That was easy.

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Speaker 1: There, you go, very easy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. JB.

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Speaker 1: Wanted to get your thoughts on Tony Vytello and the

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Speaker 1: start there for the Giants. I'm not going to take

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Speaker 1: much stock into what's going on on the field yet

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Speaker 1: unless you think we should a few games into the season.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think about the quotes? Do you

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Speaker 1: think that the microscope is going to be on him?

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest take that I have is I'm like,

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Speaker 1: all right, he threw it try hard, and he gave

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Speaker 1: a big speech and stuff like that. We can analyze

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Speaker 1: what he's done in the first week of the year,

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Speaker 1: but also the fact that he's going to have more

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Speaker 1: eyeballs and ears on him because he's doing something that

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Speaker 1: really hasn't been done in our modern game. What do

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Speaker 1: you think?

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, first of all, of course, the eyeballs. I

682
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Speaker 6: got my eyeballs on him. I'm fascinated to see if

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Speaker 6: a college coach can go right to the big leagues

684
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Speaker 6: without any professional experience and succeed. So, you know, I

685
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Speaker 6: watched Opening Day and I said to myself, why is

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Speaker 6: Logan web still in there? Giving up seven runs on

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Speaker 6: opening Day? Like I understand later in the season, you

688
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Speaker 6: wanted to pitch through it, you wanted to stay in

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Speaker 6: the game.

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Speaker 5: You know he can get through it. But it's opening day.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's never given up seven runs in again,

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Speaker 6: why am I leaving him? And on opening Day to

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Speaker 6: give up seven runs, that was kind of perplexing for me.

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Speaker 6: And then on Saturday with the first base open, Ryan Burreket,

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Speaker 6: left hander on the mount airon judge at the plate,

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Speaker 6: two left hand hitters behind him, and you don't pitch

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Speaker 6: the judge there, you walk him, and he pitched a

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Speaker 6: woman he homeward and crushed the ambulance and left field,

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Speaker 6: By the way, what's an ambulance doing there in left field?

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Speaker 6: How many times is that going to get hit this year?

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Speaker 6: That's a pretty stupid place for it, But that's another story.

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Speaker 5: So, you know, there's been.

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Speaker 6: Some things that I'm watching and then as the cameras

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Speaker 6: zoom in and the dugout, I kind of feel like

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Speaker 6: at times he's like deer in headlights, and you watch

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Speaker 6: coaches kind of talk to him and he just kind

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Speaker 6: of stares sometimes, which is kind of concerning in terms

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Speaker 6: of his comments after the game, and to me it

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Speaker 6: looked like a college coach trying to be a big

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Speaker 6: lead manager. Like I, I haven't understood the quotes. You know,

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Speaker 6: I think that when you're coaching college kids, you could

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Speaker 6: say whatever you want and they're going to respect whatever

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Speaker 6: you say, and there's not going to be pushback. And

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Speaker 6: if the media is covering you in college, they're going

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Speaker 6: to say they're going to write what the coach says.

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Speaker 6: They're not going to write what the players say, right,

717
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Speaker 6: and the players aren't going to contradict the manager.

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Speaker 5: When you get to the big.

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Speaker 6: Leagues, there's not a player in that dugout that doesn't

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Speaker 6: have more professional experience than Tony Vitello. Most of them

721
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Speaker 6: are getting paid more than Tony Vaytello. So if Tony

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Speaker 6: wants to sit there and say college stuff. The major

723
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Speaker 6: league players, they're gonna push back, gonna it's not gonna

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Speaker 6: play well. So he's got to figure out. Look, he

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Speaker 6: got to give him time. I like the man. I

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Speaker 6: think he's a good communicator. I think he's got great energy.

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Speaker 6: I think he's a lot of fun. I think he's

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Speaker 6: over his head.

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Speaker 5: So what do we do?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 5: We fix it? So how do we fix it?

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Speaker 6: Well, if I am sitting there and I'm Buster Posey

733
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Speaker 6: or I'm Zack Manassei and this is what I'm gonna do,

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Speaker 6: I've got two guys on my payroll that are both

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Speaker 6: gonna be in the Hall of Fame someday.

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Speaker 5: One name Bruce Bochio, one named Dusty Baker.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna let them split the duties. Okay, But what

738
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Speaker 6: we're gonna do after it every single game and after

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Speaker 6: every single press conference of every single game, one of

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Speaker 6: them is gonna sit down and go through the game

741
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Speaker 6: with Tony Vitello, gonna talk about all the moves, what

742
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Speaker 6: he did, what he didn't do, what he could do,

743
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Speaker 6: what he should do, talk about what he's going to

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Speaker 6: do tomorrow and the next day, what his thoughts on

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Speaker 6: Matt and then We're going to break down what he

746
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Speaker 6: said to the media and what works and doesn't work.

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Speaker 6: We want him to be himself, but we also want

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Speaker 6: him to be professional and not embarrass us, which right

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Speaker 6: now he's embarrassing us, is my take. So I'm for

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Speaker 6: Tony Vytello. I want this to work. Don't tell me

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Speaker 6: after the first week that it's working.

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Speaker 5: It's not.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, I'm not going by wins and losses.

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Speaker 6: The Yankees have a better team. They went up against

755
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Speaker 6: amazing pitching in Freed, Schlittler.

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Speaker 5: And Warren.

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Speaker 6: The bullpen was great. The losses weren't on Vitello. But

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Speaker 6: let's evaluate him as a manager.

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Speaker 5: He's not ready.

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Speaker 1: Yet, perfectly stated Mike drop moment there, great way to

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Speaker 1: end this one, JB. It was awesome catching up as always,

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Speaker 1: much more on the show that's on the shirt GM Territory.

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