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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World How Hours at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Sat Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronis,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. What's up? Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys from Oxnard, California. The whole crew, just about

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Speaker 1: the whole crew is back from San Francisco and let's

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Speaker 1: break down a football game. For the first time in

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Speaker 1: eight months. Cowboys lose their preseason opener to the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers twenty four to twenty one on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. We're back here on a Saturday to break

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Speaker 1: it down. Rob Phillips sitting in for Bill Jones in

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Speaker 1: the host chair. Joe as always by Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, and boy oh boy, do we have a

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Speaker 1: special guest today, my man Nate Newton joining us. Do

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Speaker 1: you know what just the first time? Uh so the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys lost? Uh they did technically, yes, I had hain't

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Speaker 1: That's something I've never really you know, you don't track

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Speaker 1: wins and losses in the exhibition seasons, and that's amazing,

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Speaker 1: ain't it. Yeah? Anyway, okay, Actually it's kind of funny

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Speaker 1: that I got back in yesterday. I text a friend

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Speaker 1: and he gave me the information I needed and he goes, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and congratulations. I was like, congratulations for what that's so.

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Speaker 1: I saw him. He goes for the game the win.

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Speaker 1: I said, did you go to bed early? He goes, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I said, oh, well, it didn't work out well in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, last minute, last minute, fifteen or whatever.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of a bad situation. Yeah, late touchdown

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Speaker 1: from the forty nine ers against the Cowboys backup backups

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Speaker 1: and they lose the football game. But in those types

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Speaker 1: of situations, we all know what it is. You're evaluating players,

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Speaker 1: you're evaluating units. And I figure we can start with

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Speaker 1: what the Cowboys starters looked like, or most of the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys starters who did play in the game. There were

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys who didn't. Ezekiel Elliott, Sean Lee

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Speaker 1: held out. No surprises there. Cole Beasley stayed home with

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Speaker 1: a growing injury and he's day to day with that,

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Speaker 1: according to Jason Garrett. So we still saw most of

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Speaker 1: the starters in the game. And based on what we

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Speaker 1: saw in a single drive from Dak Prescott, are we

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Speaker 1: okay with the offense now? After you know, lots of

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Speaker 1: concerns about how they could move the football first two

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Speaker 1: weeks in training camp. Well, it was a good to

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Speaker 1: ten plays. If you're going to judge ten plays, you

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Speaker 1: had to be happy that. You know, what you want

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Speaker 1: And that was from a first unit standpoint, I think

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Speaker 1: that was probably the best thing that happened. That you

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Speaker 1: saw the offense function when everybody was a little worried

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Speaker 1: about what they'd been seeing out here, and they moved

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Speaker 1: the chains. Dak moved him with a key run and

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Speaker 1: then a throw that showed that they can score touchdowns

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Speaker 1: and they can't throw the ball deep. And so that's

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Speaker 1: where I was leading for ten plays. Uh, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: So Dak, we saw him for ten plays ten plays,

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Speaker 1: seventy five yards, thirty yard touchdown pass to rookie Michael Gallup.

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Speaker 1: Not a bad throw down the field, No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: And see, and I agree with what Mickey's saying there.

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Speaker 1: The questions we've had, if not, have been with the

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Speaker 1: intermediate stuff of the mobility, the throwing to the left,

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Speaker 1: but you start putting different personnel groups out there. You know,

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Speaker 1: the game. You know, he's done some things he tried

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it, and they were your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the second round pick for the Cowboys call I'm not

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Speaker 1: going there first. When I'm going I'm what I'm going

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Speaker 1: first is I was I was happy that they let

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Speaker 1: But Jason I think more than anything coach coach understands

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Speaker 1: that he has to get some continuity. Whereas what we

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Speaker 1: write and what we see is never what coach Lanahan

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Speaker 1: and what Jason Garrett and his coaching staff is putting together.

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Speaker 1: It's never what we think it is. He put a

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Speaker 1: all he got was a dose of this is not practice,

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Speaker 1: And he adjusted real well. Wants to do double tap

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Speaker 1: So we've got to be able to make them pay.

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Speaker 1: I thought we saw the various receivers run different routes

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Speaker 1: that And I don't know if all receivers coaches do this, Nate,

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Speaker 1: you have studied, Okay, they may give us a cover

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Speaker 1: back to the show from Oxindard, California. Rob Phillips, Nate Newton,

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us Mickey Spagnola. Is everybody rested after a

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Speaker 1: long trip back? For some of us? How did you

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00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: go and come back? Real quick, don't go into detail.

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Speaker 1: How did you go and combat? What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: I flew okay, but but then you wrote it was

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Speaker 1: a five hour okay? How did you we drove all

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Speaker 1: one day and came by, right, I did the same thing.

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Speaker 1: We drove in Cane Bay and we all basically got

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Speaker 1: with what I'm trying to see. We all arrived here

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Speaker 1: back in an ox Start within two hours of each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty much matter. Nate calls me and and he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm going nightty night. I said, oh, good, you stopped

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Speaker 1: and you're you're gonna sleep, and he goes, no, I'm back.

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Speaker 1: I go, what do you mean you're back? We were

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Speaker 1: just in the bus in in at at l a X. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I didn't realize he left early and drove all

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Speaker 1: the way back, so we had to They loves to

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Speaker 1: do that though. You love went in the morning. We

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Speaker 1: got back in about close to six am. I brought Bryant,

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Speaker 1: bought Bryan's movie ticket. Yes, yeah, thank you. That man

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Speaker 1: making it through the night. That was impressive. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was a It was all man, going from Santa clar

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Speaker 1: to San Francisco Airport, then flying and then going to

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Speaker 1: Lax and bussing here. I feel like Steve Martin kind

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Speaker 1: of I did. We just didn't use a car. Yeah, planes,

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Speaker 1: trains and buses. I am. I am more for the

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Speaker 1: ram charger with you nice little ride down if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna tell me though. On the next one I'd love

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Speaker 1: to do is the play Rams and then catch Arizona

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Speaker 1: on the way home, like we did that one year

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Speaker 1: on the way on the way home as home and

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Speaker 1: just go home from Arizona, although it's kind of hard

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Speaker 1: to I think. One time, didn't we have an afternoon game?

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Speaker 1: We did, and it was one of it was glorious.

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Speaker 1: It was great because the other time was a night game.

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Speaker 1: And you've been gone for a month. You show up,

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Speaker 1: but at three in the morning, but you know the

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Speaker 1: plane is heading east. Yes, you know when that happened.

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Speaker 1: One time, we were doing some work in our backyard

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Speaker 1: and I hadn't seen it. Right. They did it and

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Speaker 1: completed it while I was gone, and I got home

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Speaker 1: at three or four in the morning. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to look because I don't want to be mad

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Speaker 1: after being gone so long. But they did a good job.

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Speaker 1: They did. Was good there it is, keep going, Mick, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm done. What else are you today? Good? You know what?

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Speaker 1: I got to do something different this morning? Oh, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I went to uh I made a friend here that

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Speaker 1: owns a winery. And today was bottling day and I

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Speaker 1: got to go watch the process. It's amazing. It was

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Speaker 1: almost like the Lucy episode as he's under the tap

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Speaker 1: now now now started at seven in the morning style.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was great. Okay, good, I'm glad you're rested.

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Speaker 1: Let everybody fresh. Let's get back into recapping Cowboys forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers final score. Technically having problems it's not flying.

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Speaker 1: I think I think we're okay. I think it was.

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Speaker 1: I brought him back right, focus, mickey, folks, I am focused,

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Speaker 1: But that's weird. Well, maybe he's too young to fly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't let me get done off, all right? Uh. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: Cowboys offensively recap what they did. Cowboys starters and some

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Speaker 1: of their key backups those first few drives for the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers punt, punt, interception, punt. What stood out

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Speaker 1: to you guys about the starters and some players that

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Speaker 1: maybe stood out? Defensively? I thought the front seven was

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Speaker 1: really good. And at post game, Brad and we were

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Speaker 1: talking about this, I thought, if you look at the

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Speaker 1: starters and what the front seven was able to do,

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Speaker 1: I felt like that the guys the defensive tackles, you

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Speaker 1: look at what was going on with Lawrence had a

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Speaker 1: couple of nice plays where he made Crawford had a

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Speaker 1: play where he plays that right in penetrate, kind of

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Speaker 1: knock off the tight end, keep the ball inside, maybe

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Speaker 1: make a loss. The linebackers I thought were really active

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Speaker 1: in the way they played. I really liked what I

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Speaker 1: saw from Jalen Smith. I liked what I saw from

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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas. Joe Thomas to me, now you're looking at

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Speaker 1: a situation where, Okay, well, how do you replace Sean

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Speaker 1: Lee when something happens in week seven? Knock on wood.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it doesn't happen. But I think you've got a

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Speaker 1: suitable replacement where Shawn Lee. Where you where the level, Yes,

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Speaker 1: is Sean Lee, but it's not like a huge gap

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Speaker 1: to Joe Thomas. Joe Thomas could play at a very

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Speaker 1: high level. I think he gives him something athletically. I

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Speaker 1: think he can run to the ball, he could played coverage.

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Speaker 1: He saw what he did with the interception. He was

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Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: front seventh play I thought was very very good, very encouraging,

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Speaker 1: especially at that defensive tackle spot where I had some

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Speaker 1: concern there for sure, they were getting penetration I thought

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Speaker 1: that was huge Jones And if you look at that

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Speaker 1: first quarter, they held him to fifty two yards in

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Speaker 1: only eighteen yards rushing, and that was with the starters

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Speaker 1: in there for the majority of that time. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a really good indication of maybe

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Speaker 1: where this is, uh the defensive tackles. Remember MALIEK. Collins

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Speaker 1: is not out there. Obviously, David Irving's not out there,

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Speaker 1: but they kind of started Dayton Jones. Well, yeah, sure did.

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Speaker 1: He got a lot of penetration. Both of those guys. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I thought played and I didn't see I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: that much of Daytone Jones meaning being that active active

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Speaker 1: and he was in the game. Yeah, him and Price actually,

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Speaker 1: so you know, we talk about guys that might be

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Speaker 1: those gamers. That's a term we like to throw out there. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know against San and San Francisco, and mind you

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Speaker 1: they've had some issues on their offensive line, they've had

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Speaker 1: some problems, but but they you know, that's no excuse.

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Speaker 1: You got to go out there and play who you play,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you look at what what the what

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Speaker 1: they were able to do against. You know, Mike McGlinchey

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Speaker 1: is a first round pick out there, for the forty nineers.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good player able to kind

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Speaker 1: of take care of him out there. So yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was very positive to me that front seven and

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Speaker 1: how they were able not only to attack the pocket

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Speaker 1: but also play the run. You know Jalen Smith point.

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Speaker 1: I loved what I saw from him and the mobility

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Speaker 1: and the and the reads and the instincts. And every week,

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Speaker 1: every practice get a little bit better. There might I

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Speaker 1: stand out to you, Nate, what out what I talked

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Speaker 1: about and say, I've talked to brought us like we're

567
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Speaker 1: watching these films and I never worried about the offense

568
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: when everybody was. I say, my problem is our defense

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Speaker 1: is finally competitive. About the three years where offense just

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00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: don't come out and dog them in practice. They are

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Speaker 1: finally competitive. But can they take that competitive spirit along

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Speaker 1: with the limited scheme and converted during the preseason game

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Speaker 1: where they did it, they passed the first test, they

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Speaker 1: got two more the second game, in the third game

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Speaker 1: they got two more tests. Can they come out in

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Speaker 1: and be competitive today? Can they be competitive Sunday? Can

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Speaker 1: they go next week and be competitive again? And the

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00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: momentum is building, and if we haven't seen this mick

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Speaker 1: since our when Jimmy came in with the enthusiasm. I

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Speaker 1: ain't saying they're gonna win the Super Bowl, but the enthusiasm.

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Speaker 1: Do you see the speed of these guys during the

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Speaker 1: game when they last time we've had that type of

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Speaker 1: speed and our dbs are actually trying to tackle? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: whenever we had man the last two or three years.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm excited all these guys that y'allas talked about.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, But the team speed when the last

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Speaker 1: time we've had a team speed like that? I think,

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Speaker 1: if you want to, I know your team speed, and

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Speaker 1: I love what you're saying. But we can also talk

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Speaker 1: about this defense as far as the backups within the

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Speaker 1: secondary right now, if you want to flip that and say,

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Speaker 1: where was your disappointment with the defense? I was expecting

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Speaker 1: better things from what we saw with this backup defense.

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Speaker 1: I think we had some reversion, reverting back to some

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Speaker 1: bad habits. Anthony Brown with the whole you know, one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why he got bench was because of

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Speaker 1: the penalties. What happens he gets caught, you know, holding

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Speaker 1: and contact some of the young guys. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: young guys trying to make this football team in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: You know, the huff he's like, we talk about him

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Speaker 1: as being one of the fourth guy. He can't misread

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Speaker 1: coverage and allow you know, Jordan Lewis lets the guy

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Speaker 1: get behind him and then he's out of whack and

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Speaker 1: they may give up a big play that way. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there was there's certain things to have a fourth down,

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Speaker 1: fourth down throw that they convert, you know, they get

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Speaker 1: tangled up, they don't look for the ball. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was We've seen so much promise from this group,

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Speaker 1: you know I'm talking about me, see so much promise

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Speaker 1: from these young guys, and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: it reverts back to some of the bad habits that

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Speaker 1: we've seen before that cost him opportunity to make plays

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Speaker 1: or get the defense off the field. But the thing

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Speaker 1: is the enthusiasm. Oh no, I think with you on that,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't. I'm not a good thing.

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Speaker 1: With Sanjay Law, you won't have those many opportunities. You

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Speaker 1: you would get another game and another frantice to show

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Speaker 1: me that this is not you. You see what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying These guys Christian Sharp, Yeah, yeah, Christian Sharp, you

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Speaker 1: will have another opportunity to show me this, not you,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think his tyler is because the way

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Speaker 1: he's the way he practiced, the way he talked to guys,

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Speaker 1: the way he goes over things and very thorough, you

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Speaker 1: get that opportunity to show him. And like when we

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Speaker 1: was looking at number thirty Anthony Brown, I'm like, uh,

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Speaker 1: but you know what, I don't think that he would

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Speaker 1: do that again, not in that situation. Good. That's that's

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Speaker 1: where I mean I was. I was more surprised by

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Speaker 1: the way this backup, the backup secondary played as I

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Speaker 1: was to anything. I mean the offense. The offense, you know,

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Speaker 1: we were kind of thinking, Okay, what's gonna happen with

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Speaker 1: Cooper Rush. Yeah, they're gonna be able to run the ball.

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Speaker 1: How some of the offensive lineup play. We had some

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Speaker 1: questions there. But where I was very confident going into

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Speaker 1: this game was Okay, these backup cornerbacks, backup safeties. I

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Speaker 1: kind of felt like just the way they've practiced that

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Speaker 1: they would be able to carry that into the game.

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Speaker 1: And curious Ward another ward, another guy kind of talking

639
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: third guys. Now, yeah, once you get to the fourth

640
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: par Okay, we're talking the guys on the edge of

641
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: the fifth Okay, well, okay, the except for Brown, Okay, Brown, Lewis,

642
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: Jordan to us and you know, okay, there's four guys.

643
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: We feel like we're gonna be the corners. Okay, who

644
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: are the other two? You know, I was hopefully it

645
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: was gonna be ward. I was hopeful it's gonna be.

646
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: It still might be, Yeah, it's still might. They'll play better.

647
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: I think once they look at the film and I'm

648
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: not telling about Anthony Brown, some of the other guys,

649
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: once they look at the film and be coached up,

650
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: they'll understand, uh, this is what you have to do

651
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: to maintain it. Now, Anthony Brown, that's a that's a

652
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: different situation. He's gonna have to mentally check himself every

653
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: time at the door. He's gonna have to say, this

654
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: is what if I want to be prominent on this team,

655
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: this is what I have to do. Some guys are

656
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: mentally strong enough to fight through that. Some guys and

657
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: not will find out on Anthony Brown. And you know,

658
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: and and I think he had the struggles when he

659
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: was playing outside, right, am I right? Not when he

660
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: was in the slot as a as a nickel. Uh

661
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: you mentioned Mark queston huff He's got another complication. He's

662
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: got a groin that's gonna keep him out. See. Uh,

663
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: it sounded like for several several days this this, this

664
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: is to me where you know, you got a veteran

665
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: player and you're like thinking, Okay, some bad things happened

666
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: to me, and I'm gonna be like, Okay, I'm gonna

667
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: kinda kind of let things die down here before you know,

668
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm not. I think the competition is too great for

669
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: a guy to start missing times. Yeah, yeah, I don't

670
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: need to be a veteran guy sitting unless you're figuring out. Okay,

671
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get some game checks out of somebody

672
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: here trying to get it. I'm trying to you know,

673
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to you know what. I gave up a

674
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: huge play because it played with bad eyes. And now

675
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't bad on special teams when he was playing

676
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: is a gunner, he wasn't bad. He can't afford to

677
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: miss too much time. Yeah, you know it's like hello,

678
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: Noah Brown, Yeah, you're getting left behind. I know you

679
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: gottama and I agree. See, because we didn't go into this,

680
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: you know who played bad and who played good. But

681
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: number six to come, he's kind of surgery marks. He's

682
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: out for a while. He's got toe surgery. Now, yeah,

683
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: that's you know what heapen happened? And then and then uh,

684
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: the other one they had was Marchie Murdoch. Yeh, he's

685
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: got a high ankle sprain. He's probably just probably done too. Yeah.

686
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: I just believe Rob that the competition this year, especially

687
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: at the corners and safeties and musicians like that. And

688
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: even though living that linebacker injuries and not injuries ain't

689
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: what you want, you know, you know, Brian, injuries ain't

690
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: what you want right now? Well, the thing if you

691
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: can't really you can't help it. But yeah, I mean,

692
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, Marcus Martin was in a situation where, okay,

693
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with the eighth offensive linemen? You know

694
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with or the if you go nine?

695
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: Who was gonna be who's now gonna be? Does this

696
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: mean Cadeem Edwards is now maybe initially that's what I'm saying,

697
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: or is somebody at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers right in

698
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: the New York Jet until we see thirty seven guys

699
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: cut from team because right now you've got Joe Looney

700
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: as your backup center. Scar and Nice, which mean yeah, nice,

701
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: quit with the high snaps right there, Brad, Brad goes

702
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: high snap. I'm like, you know what I mean, go afterwards,

703
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: I go, I go, Brad, he goes, he goes. I

704
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: know we've seen this in practice, and I'm like, you're

705
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: almost getting one a day. Yeah, and it ain't vitamins,

706
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: it ain't. All right. Let's grab a phone call before

707
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: we get out of this second reckon. I remember that.

708
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, Josh fort Worth. You're up next on Talking Cowboys.

709
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: I got a question for from Mickey in particular, Um,

710
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: when are you gonna fight having Dawson. I don't you

711
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: know what. We haven't found the parking lot yet that okay,

712
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: we'll sell tickets. We'll tell sell tickets too, Okay, do

713
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: this for charity camp maybe? Yeah? All right. And if

714
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: we're having a hard time figuring out how to get

715
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: Rico Gathers on the starting roster, I don't see why

716
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: we can't play him as sort of the league's biggest

717
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: splot receiver on goal wide situations in third and seven.

718
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: I'll hang up and wait, wait, wait, wait, before you go,

719
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: before you go, before you go, ifre you go, what

720
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: did you see? What did you see in the game?

721
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: Then from the seat, from your seat the other day

722
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: about Rico gathers what what what? What did you see? Well,

723
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: from what I've seen the Cowboys since that Prescott came

724
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: into the league is uh, he's not the greatest touch passer, okay.

725
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: And sometimes hitting guys in the back of the end though,

726
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: sorry about that. When they're five foot eight, is gonna

727
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: be hard for somebody to can't put touch on the ball. Okay,

728
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: all right, appreciate to answer. Yeah, answer your question. Um,

729
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: they used him split off the line, I thought quite

730
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: a bit in that game, and he was actually lining

731
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: up in the spot. Ask him his point. Yeah, And

732
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: I know they didn't throw him the all, but there

733
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: was a couple of times and I don't remember if

734
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: it was rush or or if it was white. He

735
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: ran a route and he was wide open a couple

736
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: of times. And that's why I saw that he saw

737
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: the game. They used him and he was open. Now

738
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback wasn't looking his way, but he ran out

739
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: of the slot and curled over the middle and I

740
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh, look at that, and then he threw

741
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: the ball. That's why I wanted to know, because if

742
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: you said that the world's biggest slot guy, he's that's

743
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: I was wondering if that's an adjustment or something that

744
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: he saw from the game. Because Mickey's absolutely right and

745
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: the caller's right. You can use him as a detached player,

746
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: you know, that's the that would be the best thing

747
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: for Rico. Now, the blocking stuff. He still has the

748
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: capability of being a big body guy at athletic enough

749
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: to get in somebody's way, to turn somebody. We just

750
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: haven't seen that from him, you know. And when they

751
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: ran when they now he's gone, when they ran the

752
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: Hail Mary at the end, that's that's where he was going.

753
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: He didn't get the ball to the end zone. If

754
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: he had gotten the ball of the end zone, there's

755
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: no telling if the big guy to go up and

756
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: grab it, might have had a chance. You know, I

757
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: can't let this one ride. How tall is cold easily eight? Okay, Well,

758
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: don't he get the ball of Cold pretty good? Yeah?

759
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, but he's he's talking about in red zone situations. Okay,

760
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: red zone situations, there's not how many of those guys

761
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: Rico just calls Rico a six foot whatever. Jason Witton

762
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: was the same height. And when you and when you

763
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: can't get to the red zone and you can't execute

764
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: in the red zone, it's more than just a quarterback

765
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: on the touch pass. Stop. People need to stop with that. People,

766
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: people need What was that he threw to Michael Gallup? Yeah,

767
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: if he would have gone, if the caller would have

768
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: gone the route. Yeah, you're right about that. What do

769
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: you throw the Michael Gallop? I mean, who what are

770
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: y'all reading? Oh? Oh, I forgot y'all listen to Mick

771
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: in the guy Heath in the fight. They don't know nothing. Yeah, yeah,

772
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: I can't get away saying that. Yeah, I mean it's

773
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: why we have Nate here. I'm serious, man, If you're

774
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: if you, if you, if you took the time to

775
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: look at Rico Gathers, who won't block nobody, So he

776
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: can be a part of this team and he can

777
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: help this team tremendous because we go to tight ends.

778
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: What does do Rico playing the special teams? Okay, once

779
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: again we're talking about somebody that ain't gonna help this

780
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: team because he don't want to help this team. Come on, man, Rico,

781
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: do something more than this fat slot receiver's Micky's ready, Nates,

782
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: Nate's minute. No, I look, how does how do how

783
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: do these things start? I want to know? Do we do? We?

784
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: Forget twenty sixteen he didn't throw for nearly four thousand

785
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: yards as a rookie because he didn't know how to

786
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: throw the ball or he didn't have touch. Yeah, I

787
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: mean it does look like he sings everything. So one

788
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 1: guy says he doesn't have a touch. The other guy, well,

789
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: you can't throw deep? Well, what's left? Right? Well, the

790
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: problem is that when you get camp, when you cover camp,

791
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: you have groups to go in and out of camp.

792
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing Brad and I were talking about

793
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: this again on the broadcast, is that the narrative becomes

794
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: he can't do this or this player can't do that.

795
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: Where if you have people that watch every day, you

796
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: see growth. Either see growth. Well, we didn't have I

797
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: didn't me personally, I did not have a very high

798
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: opinion of Rico Gathers coming in the camp. Really didn't.

799
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: I feel better about Rico Gathers, But I don't know

800
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: if Rico Gathers Rico gathers. You know, it's hopeful in

801
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: the game the other night that he could do something

802
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: to put himself in position where they say, we got

803
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: to carry We have to carry four tight ends, right,

804
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, we have to carry four tight ends because

805
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: we can't afford not to carry this guy. He's got

806
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: three more opportunities. But there's other spots that you gotta

807
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: look at and say, well, you might want to go

808
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: heavy here, or you might want to go heavy at receivers.

809
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: That's where that's where the problem is. And I'm just

810
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: think that Mickey was asking the question why and where

811
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: I think it becomes because you have people coming in

812
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: and out of your camps that are saying that, you know,

813
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: national narrative is, well, dat can't do this, Dad can't

814
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: do that, Alan hearns can't do this. He can do that.

815
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: You know, you get people that you know, we all

816
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: consume media. Yeah, we all consume the media, and when

817
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: we do that, you know, we gotta be you gotta

818
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: be careful of who you're hearing it from. You watch

819
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: fifteen days of practice. I think you've seen Dak do

820
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: a lot of good things in practice. And we saw him,

821
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: we saw a better deep ball in that game, and

822
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: that touch is not the problem. I think with Dak Prescott,

823
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't think touch is because I've seen him throw screens.

824
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: I've seen him on the move throws, you know when

825
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: you throw the waggles and boots and you have to

826
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: like hit those things. I've seen. Now, if you want

827
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: to see me, if you want to tell me accuracy

828
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: on deep ball, now I'm with you. I'm dancing with

829
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: you here. But touch is not one of the things.

830
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe the caller meant accuracy, all right, but

831
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: go ahead. But you you know when I walked when

832
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: we started OTAs and we did a minute after the

833
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: draft minute, it's two guys. I walked out there, and

834
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: I came to make it. When I saw these two guys,

835
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: I could not believe how great they looked and how

836
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: imposing a figure. I walked by both Scarborough and I

837
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: thought he was a linebacker. I say, who in the

838
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: and I didn't say it nicely. It makes it. That's

839
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: both Scarbrough. I say what I said. He even bigger

840
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: in life than on TV. He could play middle linebacker.

841
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: And then I saw him stretching, and I'm like, and

842
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: I just I say, who is number eighty. That's a

843
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: man right there. Oh that's Rico Gathers. I say, I

844
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: prayty God he can block, right, And that's the next

845
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: part of this game, because in scramble situations you got

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Speaker 1: Coming off a twenty four twenty one loss preseason to

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Speaker 1: call Tyson in California, just up the road. What's up, Tyson?

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Speaker 1: What's up with you guys. I appreciate you guys for

904
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Speaker 1: having me on the show. Just a quick just a

905
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Speaker 1: quick thought. I've been at everybody calling me a West

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Speaker 1: Coast but I've been at a training camp about sevent

907
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Speaker 1: eight times now this year. Um, you know, seeing a

908
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff. One thing I you know, people always

909
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Speaker 1: say that Dad can't go to deck the long ball.

910
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: I have seen him throw some long balls. But one

911
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: thing that I've kind of like, kind of thought about

912
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is Dak Prescott has always winning to every

913
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Speaker 1: situation pretty much kind of like being the backup or

914
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Speaker 1: trying to you know, trying to get a job. That

915
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: was high school, that was college, even in the NFL.

916
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: He's never you know, been brought onto the team and

917
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Speaker 1: known day one you were the guy. And just if

918
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: you guys know the backup mentality. Backup quarterbacks don't like

919
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Speaker 1: throwing interceptions. You know, a backup quarterbacks job is typically

920
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Speaker 1: to come in, manage the game and get you out

921
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Speaker 1: of the game. So I think Dak Prescott's thing is

922
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Speaker 1: not that he doesn't want to throw the ball or

923
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Speaker 1: he can't throw the ball. I just think that Dak

924
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Speaker 1: really focuses on not you know, throwing interceptions and making

925
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Speaker 1: bad plays, which typically you know, that's the mindset of

926
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Speaker 1: a of a backup quarterback because you know, backup quarterbacks

927
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Speaker 1: are typically like you know, I, you know, I want

928
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Speaker 1: to get in this game. I want to get out

929
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Speaker 1: of this game, get this victory. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's nuting. I think I think Dak can throw the

931
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Speaker 1: ball when it's when it's there, and he will throw

932
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Speaker 1: the ball when it's there. But I just think the decision,

933
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Speaker 1: his decision making, there's more that goes into you know,

934
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Speaker 1: him just dropping back and throwing the ball. You know,

935
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Speaker 1: I think he really takes his time and you know

936
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Speaker 1: it picks those good passes. So that's that was kind

937
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Speaker 1: of my thing on Dak Prescott. And then my only

938
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Speaker 1: question that I had is, do you guys see I

939
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: know that we have a great offensive line, probably the

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Speaker 1: best in the NFL, I believe the best in the NFL.

941
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Speaker 1: But you know, if we had to link our backup

942
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Speaker 1: like are a complete unit of our backup offensive line.

943
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Speaker 1: Do you guys feel that there's a really big delta

944
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Speaker 1: between our first string offensive line and our second string

945
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Speaker 1: offensive line? And do you guys think that there should

946
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Speaker 1: be some some things that we can adjust on that?

947
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Speaker 1: All right, Tyson, thanks for the call. Nate, what are

948
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the backups on this line? And that's

949
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Speaker 1: what every team you have first group is seem elite.

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00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: If you have a good offensive line like we do,

951
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: then the backups just not that it's too heavy. We've

952
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: invested too much money into what we have. So when

953
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: you out there, your scout so really put to the

954
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: test and trying to bring in qualitative guys as they

955
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: can get you through one or two games. Your biggest

956
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: nightmare is to lose one of your studs for a season.

957
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: Two or three games maybe, but not for a season

958
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Speaker 1: because the drop off in version almost their position is tremendous. Well,

959
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: and because you stock that offensive line with so many

960
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Speaker 1: first round picks, you're probably not spending a lot of

961
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Speaker 1: high to mid round draft choices on offensive linemen to

962
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: serve you. If you bring them in, you know they're

963
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: a backup, right and so that's why when they when

964
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Speaker 1: they used the pick on Connor Williams. They saw him

965
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Speaker 1: as a starter. But after that, you gotta you gotta

966
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Speaker 1: find Nate Newton's of the world. You gotta find Mark

967
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Speaker 1: two and A's of the world, Kevin Gogan's of the world.

968
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Speaker 1: That you can develop guys, bring them along and they

969
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Speaker 1: fill in and maybe eventually they become a starter. But

970
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: if they're yeah, but you're right, Jeremy Parnella, you know, so, Yeah,

971
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Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a it's a difficult thing, and

972
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna have five of them. Brian, from a

973
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Speaker 1: scouting perspective, is tackle maybe the hardest position to find

974
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Speaker 1: in preseason, like find depth there. Yeah, I was just

975
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Speaker 1: going through and I appreciate the callers, uh you know,

976
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Speaker 1: talking about I was just looking at the backup guys,

977
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Speaker 1: backup offensive. I was going to guards, and I was

978
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Speaker 1: thinking a lot of it has to do if you

979
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Speaker 1: look at just around the league, not just the Cowboys,

980
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: but if you look around the league, there's a lot

981
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Speaker 1: of guys that are drafted in the fifth, sixth, seventh

982
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Speaker 1: round that they use. There's a lot of guys that

983
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: were undrafted guys. So you know your premium saying Okay,

984
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: well we're gonna put We're gonna have a backup. I mean,

985
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the cults right now. They have a

986
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Speaker 1: guy named Brent Bradon Smith who played at Auburn. We

987
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about Bradon Smith as a guy

988
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: that that could potentially be a starter one day. But

989
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: he's a backup guard in Indianapolis. But he's a second

990
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Speaker 1: round pick. So your your depth of your your offensive line.

991
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: Why Tellers at Buffalo he's a fifth round pick. You know,

992
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: you're you're kind of at the mercy of can you

993
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: develop a guy? Is there a guy that might have

994
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: went to North Dakota State that you can kind of

995
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: find a way to develop it's offensive lineman. That's why

996
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: teams go long an offensive line when they build their roster,

997
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: because there when you do get to a point where

998
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: you have to say, oh, we you know, we need

999
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: a guy. You want to bring that guy that you

1000
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Speaker 1: got off the off the bench, and then that would

1001
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Speaker 1: be your guy. You're a guy you're gonna plug in

1002
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: because you do not want to be in week seven

1003
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: or eight trying to grab We saw what the Giants did.

1004
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: You know, the Giants had just such a mess with

1005
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: their offensive line. Towards the end of the season, they

1006
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: kept getting guys hurt, and now they're bringing guys in

1007
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: in Week seven that haven't done anything all year, a

1008
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: week eight, week nine, and you know you're not gonna

1009
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: win that way. You're gonna be a three and thirteen

1010
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: team that way. And that's But the depth issue is

1011
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: I think that they have to feel good about about

1012
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: Joe Looney, you know, I think they have to feel

1013
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: good about Cam Fleming. If something were to happen with

1014
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: with Tyron Smith. I mean, I'm feeling I'm feeling better.

1015
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he played terrible the other day. But

1016
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: where are we going to go from there? Who's the

1017
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: eighth guy? Who's the ninth guy? You know, people on

1018
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: the first thing that I saw on Twitter when I

1019
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: got off the air their day, when are they gonna

1020
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: get rid of Chads Green? Okay, I'm with you, folks,

1021
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I I hey, Chads Green had

1022
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: two three really good days. I was very hopeful that

1023
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: Chaz Green would go in there and do some things

1024
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: and and be productive. But he's not the same player

1025
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: he was too three years ago. It's just not happened

1026
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: for him. So who's that guy who's the eighth and guy,

1027
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: the ninth guy. It's a it's a tough situation because

1028
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: it's a hard position to find. Uh, Stanton, he's a

1029
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: center guard guy. Wade well, Kadeem Edwards would be the

1030
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,959
Speaker 1: guy that I would be the But so you don't

1031
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: like this the lack of strength. Yeah, I think I

1032
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: think he's more, but I think he fits to where

1033
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: they play. Where he play, I think he fits the

1034
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: athletic part of the equation. They planned him at guard

1035
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 1: and tackle, and you said, Seph, he's a much better

1036
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: guard tackle. Yeah, no, I'm keeping him inside. Yeah, but Stanton,

1037
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying, give me a quick Well, that's what I'm saying.

1038
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: The other night. They run a stunt the other day

1039
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: where they don't sort it. Stanton doesn't sort it. And

1040
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: then now they get they get they get pressure and

1041
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: they get hits on the quarterback and you know it's yeah,

1042
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: oh those guys can up on the practice squad. Yeah

1043
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: probably so yeah, but they'll probably think, Okay, we've we've

1044
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: invested an ota, we've invested a training camp, you know

1045
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: where me personally, I go out and try and get

1046
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: somebody else practice squad, my practice. If I've evaluated my

1047
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: guys and they're there's some guys that you want to say, Okay, yeah,

1048
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this guy on to the practice squad.

1049
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: I think you could help us. But if you're putting

1050
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: practice squad guys on, they're just a practice and they're

1051
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 1: not good, that defeats the purpose of the practice squad

1052
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: for me. Move, go out and try and get a

1053
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: guy from the from the Saints or from the Buccaneers

1054
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: or from the Rams. You know, hey, well we've evaluated

1055
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Speaker 1: to grab this guy. You know, let's try and get

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00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: maybe give a guy looks money to do that. Okay,

1057
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: we got we gotta get through this preseason. These guys here,

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00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: give us meg. What about Campos? Yeah, I mean see

1059
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: I now I was down on him. See Campos and

1060
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: Stanton both had problems in that game they did. They

1061
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: both had problems. So now you're sitting there going, okay,

1062
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: it's just like it's like Chad's Green. You see two

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00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: three good practices at right tackle for Chads Green, and

1064
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: then you're like, okay, maybe Chads Green's gonna get it

1065
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: here at right tackle. Maybe he will be that eighth

1066
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: guy maybe maybe all that he's put all that behind him,

1067
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: and then the mechanics of you know, the technique breaks

1068
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: down and he's out of balance and you're you know,

1069
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: what's up, mick me. We was watching two for two

1070
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: or three days. Man brought us, brought us sitting. I've

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00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: seen brought us sitting right now when we're watching film.

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00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: And all through the film, yes, Green, I mean he

1073
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: was he was blocking it every place. Yes, that's what

1074
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: he was coming. He's coming. It's like now now it's

1075
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: like it's like the problem. The problem you run in,

1076
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: the problem you run into, though, is I was hopeful.

1077
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: Let me ask let me ask the panel question. Let

1078
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: me ask you there, six time Pro Bowl offensive line,

1079
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: three time Champa. Yeah, what what did you see from

1080
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: Cam Fleming? Not? Not much, not to make you worried

1081
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: that what? What? What? What? What? I'm trying not in

1082
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: this game, not this game. I'm just talking about to

1083
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: this point, what had you seen from Cam Fleming? Not

1084
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: not a guy very strong, you know, but out here

1085
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: in practice he's seen the stick to the guy. Oh

1086
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: and and and that's what you know, he's sad. Yeah, yeah,

1087
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: and so no, what I'm saying is we gotta get

1088
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: through the preseason before everybody cutting the sixty stay sixty

1089
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: guys like mix a thirty seven guys. We gotta get

1090
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: through this. And so my my my thing is you

1091
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: name two guys Joe Looney, uh Fleming. Yeah, okay, that

1092
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: gives you seven? Who is that guy? I'm asking you.

1093
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: I'm you know what I'm trying to figure out. You know,

1094
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: do I hope do I hope they have I hope

1095
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: to said side, Bengals cut somebody and that's happened. That's happen.

1096
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: Moves are made after three seasons. It's a possibility. As

1097
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: got me. There's so many there's so many guys that

1098
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: are playing on this on this uh uh on these

1099
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: rosters now that are that are undrafted guys or whatever.

1100
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's probably where they're gonna have to go.

1101
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: But if you're putting guys on the practice squad just

1102
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: to put them on the practice squad to practice, that's

1103
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: a that's a poor that's a poor way of doing thing.

1104
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: We've only got a couple minutes before we get out

1105
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: of here. Let's look towards today's practice. We're gonna see

1106
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: ninety four out there. I think you will. I think

1107
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: you will. Yeah. When we interviewed Jason Randy Gregor game show, uh,

1108
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: and I asked him about Randy Gregory and I asked him,

1109
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: look like he's getting closer and then closer and he

1110
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: said real soon? Yeah, so real? Since did they took

1111
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: real soon as today? Yeah, pads will be on he already.

1112
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: He looks just as good as the mannequins at the Star.

1113
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: I wanted him do more than the mannequins. Two of

1114
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: the Stars, so you know what Nate's talk. I mean,

1115
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: he's perfect. He looked great in the uniform. I like

1116
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: to see him mess that uniform up, get a bloody

1117
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: nail or something, you know what I'm saying, bloody nails something,

1118
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: maybe something, Maybe get a rush or two against Well,

1119
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: he's going out for the walkthrough because I see him

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00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: right now. He's been doing that for about a week.

1121
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: Right by the way, the guy behind him, Cavan Fraser.

1122
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: But I thought had a great game special teams, Yes,

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00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: he did, balls him blitz. Yeah. We didn't really talk

1124
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: about individuals on defense, you know Jalen Smith. Yeah, and

1125
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: even Layton Vanderus he had four tackles and he got

1126
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: to get a little more physical and he almost he

1127
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: almost has the interception on the sideline there. I think

1128
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Speaker 1: there was a penalty. Where's Malice Collins? We're going to work?

1129
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: I think yeah, maybe next week for him. Time for

1130
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Speaker 1: you to go home and oh man, I think it's

1131
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: needed on that right. Thanks to Nate Scout, thank giving

1132
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Speaker 1: it up man, Thanks to Brian, Thanks to Mickey Ken

1133
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Speaker 1: thanks for producing the break. We'll be back tomorrow noon

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Speaker 1: Central time to break down Saturday's practice, look back at

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Speaker 1: the game. Talking Monday, Yes, talk back Monday, and nice

1136
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Speaker 1: to have our former Talking Cowboys cohort with us, Nate anytime,

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Speaker 1: See you guys Monday. This has been a production of

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