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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this episode number seventy three

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Speaker 1: tay the show. In this little bonus episode, Dan and

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Speaker 1: I are going to be quickly recapping our past two weeks,

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Sick Gear. I gotta apologize to you all.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have an episode last week because I was

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Speaker 1: in organ chasing Elk and before that, me and Dan

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Speaker 1: we're in Idaho chasing Elk, and that is the theme

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks. We're gonna take a brief break

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Speaker 1: from white tail stuff to UH to share with you

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Speaker 1: talk to you about what that's been like, the challenges

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Speaker 1: we had, the experiences we had, UM, and what we

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Speaker 1: kind of a bonus episode here, but we want to

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Speaker 1: make sure we talked about this topic for all of

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Speaker 1: chasing Elk someday. You know, maybe this will be interesting too. So, damn,

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Speaker 1: what how did you feel the day you got back

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Speaker 1: Hull oh, man, I think I just barely dried out.

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Speaker 1: our our week out there. We I picked you up

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Speaker 1: couple of years. What were you thinking when we got there? Well,

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Speaker 1: I really wasn't too concerned because I, like I said

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Speaker 1: So that night we went hiked out way far east

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Speaker 1: this point that was the first bowl we'd seen the

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00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: whole trip, so we decided to tear it down after it.

428
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: So then we went running down the steep hillside or

429
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: ridgeline dropped down to the bottom valley. But a pretty

430
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: cool encounter with a moose. Yeah, yeah, I saw two

431
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: moose down there at the bottom, and then tried to

432
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: bomb off the other side. But now going up the

433
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: other side, now it starts pouring rain again and it

434
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: gets super crazy slippery wet again. At one point you

435
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: fell and popped your knee out right, Well, I didn't

436
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: like I every once in a while, if I'm using

437
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: my knee a lot, it'll kind of it'll have it

438
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: has like a hitch in it sometimes. And I was

439
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: kind of trying to catch myself on some slipping mud

440
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: and my knee popped at like my knee caught and

441
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: I fell and laying it on my back and uh

442
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: and got up, you know, luckily I wasn't hurt. But

443
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: and when you say we went up two thousand feet,

444
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean from our base camp to the top of

445
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: that mountain was like a thousand feet okay, maybe feet

446
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: and then we where we saw the elk at we

447
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: had to go down five feet and then come back

448
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: up another thousand feet. So it was it was one

449
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: of the hardest things I've ever done in my life

450
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: from a physical standpoint, pushing my heart rate in my body,

451
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: two exhaustion levels. Yeah, it was tough. And then we

452
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: get to the top it's pouring rain again. Everything soaked.

453
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: We've both fallen down multiple times, were covered mud, but

454
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: all the elk are gone, of course, and then we

455
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: had like I don't know how long it seemed like

456
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: a couple hour hike to try and get back to

457
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,479
Speaker 1: camp at that point, just through nasty, boggy, wet crap.

458
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: And I mean that was based waste high grass. Yeah,

459
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: that's basically the story of our hunt. I mean, you

460
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: fast forward another day or two that we were there,

461
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: it was basically that it was just more hiking, soaking, wet.

462
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: The final morning we had nice weather for a little

463
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: bit there in the morning, but we didn't see anything,

464
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 1: didn hear anything, nothing going. We was hiked a lot

465
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: and looked around a lot and that was our hunt.

466
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we we had you know, it was one

467
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: of these things where it was. It was Friday morning,

468
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: and we had planned to hunt Thursday or excuse me,

469
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: Saturday morning. But we're sitting there going, okay, Granted, anything

470
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: can happen, right, anything can happen, But we knew where

471
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: the elk we're at. They were the next ridge line over,

472
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: which is a huge walk from where I mean, they

473
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: were deeper into the national forest, which meant we would

474
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: have had to double the amount of walking or hiking

475
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: to get to get to those spots. And if we

476
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: did and some reason kill an elk on the Friday

477
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: night or the Saturday morning, it was gonna take us

478
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: twenty four hours with two people just to get the

479
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: elk out of there. Yeah, it would have to get

480
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: to where those elk were by foot. Would have just

481
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: been nearly physically impossible for us to pull off. I

482
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: mean we could, we could have got in there and hunted.

483
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: We would have a nasty, nasty hike in and out

484
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: to try to get in there, but we could have

485
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: done that, but we wouldn't have been able to get

486
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: knlk out unless you you know, literally just you know,

487
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: a day or two, like just go back and forth,

488
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth, back and forth and

489
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: literally kill ourselves about I mean, not to make excuses,

490
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: but I mean you had a flight to catch and

491
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean and and the wet conditions, every step you

492
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: were sliding, So it just became a logistical nightmare and

493
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: it really wasn't safe at some points. Yeah, I mean, man,

494
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: it was just just as we said, brutal, brutal. It

495
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: was just brutal. But I tell you what, I tell

496
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: you what was awesome about that trip. Those kind of

497
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: trips tell you something about who who you are. If

498
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: you can tough stuff like that out, you can tough

499
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: just about anything out, you know what I mean. Oh yeah,

500
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: that's the stuff that makes you. And it's like, I

501
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: just remember the I was so frustrated and so mad

502
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: and just like the way things were when we were

503
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: hiking back into town that set that uh what that

504
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: the next morning after our first day there, and I'm

505
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: just like I'm literally having to talk to myself to

506
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: motivate myself to keep moving and just and just like

507
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: one more step, one more step, one more step, because

508
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: the elevation was getting to me, the the wetness was

509
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: getting to me. And but I tell you what, it's

510
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: going to be a story that I'll have for the

511
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: rest of my life. And like I said, I just

512
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: remember that time when we the very last morning we

513
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: hiked all the way up as this one ridge that

514
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: we couldn't get to the previous three days, and we're

515
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: sitting there and we come across this old camp that

516
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: was there and we're sitting on the when we're looking

517
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: over this huge bench and we're what We're just looking

518
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: at the mountain in the background, and it was one

519
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: of those moments where it's just like this is this

520
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: is worth it? Yeah? Uh, it really was one of

521
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: those that the hunting, you know, it was nothing to

522
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: talk about it at all, but it was just it

523
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: was an adventure being out there, beautiful, beautiful country and uh,

524
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: from that standpoint, it was awesome. So that was our

525
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: Idaho trip. Well, let's not forget a couple of things

526
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: on the Idaho trip, which was Taco Bell. Taco Bell

527
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: was good. Taco Bell. That that's like that was our

528
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: care mantra when we were out there, was like Taco Bell,

529
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: Taco about, what are you gonna do when you get

530
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: out of here? Taco Bell. It's like it's like we

531
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: were in some kind of prison. What are you gonna

532
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: do when you get out man, Taco Bell? Yeah? But

533
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: but we finally got Taco Bell and did get out,

534
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: and it stabbed me in the back and made me,

535
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean over can you pull over? What? Dan?

536
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: Can you pull over? Okay? Okay? Made me very uncomfortable

537
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: for a part of that drive. And then yeah, fast

538
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: forward to your organ hunt. I want to hear about that. Yeah, Organ.

539
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: So this is a situation where, you know, I wasn't

540
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: planning on doing this hunt until this summer. I got

541
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: word from our partners at Lacrosse, who are the same

542
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: company as Danner Boots UM, and they reached out and said, hey,

543
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: we'd love to spend some time with you this fall.

544
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: Have you come check out our headquarters, get to meet

545
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: some people, and then hunt for for a few days

546
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: in eastern Oregon. Um. So, you know, this is a

547
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: scenario where we'll be hunting with an outfitter, which I've

548
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: actually never done before. And you know, I think, as

549
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: we talked about before, Daniel, I've I've never had an

550
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: interest to hunt with an outfitter because I'm all I

551
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: and I'm I've got this idea that I'm just this

552
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: d I y guy, and that's you know, what I

553
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: really enjoy. So I didn't think this would be something

554
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: I'd enjoy necessarily that aspect of it. But there's something

555
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't say no to. It would be a great opportunity.

556
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: It was gonna be great to meet these guys from

557
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: Danner and Lacrosse, so I thought, hey, I'll give it

558
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: a try. So I flew out there on Monday, got

559
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 1: into camp, and um, really, from the beginning to the end, um,

560
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: it was a really positive experience. I mean, I found

561
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: there are some really cool things about doing an outfit

562
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: and hunt like that. Um, it's not necessarily something you

563
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: know that I would you know, see myself doing the future,

564
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: mostly because I can't afford to do something like that, um,

565
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: and I do love doing things on my own. But

566
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: there was a lot of actually really cool fun aspects

567
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: of being at a camp with a bunch of hunters

568
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: and you know, coming at night and sharing your stories

569
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: and sharing a good meal and you know, that camaraderie

570
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: aspect was really cool that I've never got to experience

571
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: to that degree. So I really enjoyed that we hunted

572
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: with opal Butte Outfitters in eastern Oregon. Really good guys,

573
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: incredible properties out there that they're hunting. UM, and I

574
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: just it was kind of the exact opposite of our

575
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 1: hunt in Idaho. Dan, we heard elk every day like crazy.

576
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: We're in elk every day. They're buglin very well, almost

577
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: the entire time. Uh, you know, we'd be we'd get

578
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: out start hunting in the morning beyond you know, a

579
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: handful bowls. If it didn't come together by the you know,

580
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: on our walk back to camp, we usually hear one

581
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: striking up again in the late more and have another chase.

582
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: But kind of the story of the whole week was

583
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: that we we were in them, we were seeing them,

584
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: hearing them, chasing them every day, but really couldn't quite

585
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: break that hundred yard barrier, couldn't quite get into them

586
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: close enough. Um. Even though this was like a great area,

587
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't public land. Um, it was private, so a

588
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: lot more elk, a lot less pressured. UM. They still

589
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: weren't really responding to calls. That they wouldn't come into calls.

590
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: They would respond to bugles in the distance, and you know,

591
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: you could locate them, but you couldn't get them to

592
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: come into you. So we just moved a lot, and

593
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I was worried about,

594
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, like I just mentioned, I was worried that

595
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: by doing an outfitted hunt, I wouldn't feel like I

596
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: earned it. And so that was my concern going into

597
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: the hunt. I was like, I'm gonna even if I

598
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: do kill an elk, it won't really feel like I

599
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: kill an elk. It'll feel like I've shot an elk.

600
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: But I didn't really earn it. Um. But by the

601
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: end of the trip, in my head, I was saying,

602
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, if I kill one, I earned that, son

603
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: of a gun. Because we worked, We worked physically. That

604
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: was even more so than you and me in Idaho.

605
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we hiked and hiked and hiked and hiked,

606
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: and we didn't win stop. We just kept hiking up

607
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: and down these huge ridges and mountains and hills and

608
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff. Um. I mean, it was thank

609
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: goodness that I had lived in the mountains for two

610
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: months and I did this trip in Idaho beforehand, because

611
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 1: if I you know, if this has been any other year,

612
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: when I hadn't been doing all that stuff, I would

613
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: have been killed up there. I wouldn't have been able

614
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: to do it. We hiked, I bet you probably ten

615
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: miles a day, but it was non stop, up and down, up, down,

616
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: up and down. Um, a legitimate ten miles a day,

617
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: just chasing elk up and down mountains and just burning

618
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: it up. You know, if there's an elk. It wasn't

619
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: like we're stopping every thirty seconds. We were burning it

620
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: to get up there and get to the elk. UM. So, man,

621
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was tough, but it was fun. UM

622
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: met a lot of great guys from Danner Boots and

623
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Lacrosse and other hunters out there, and the guides with

624
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: the opal Beew really nice guys, really good crew, great place. Um,

625
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: I saw what was probably my first legitimate plus bull.

626
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: I saw just a giant. I mean it was just

627
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: cool to see elk likeick that. UM. I'd seen some

628
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: big you know what I thought were big bulls past

629
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: years in Idaho. Um, but man, these are some impressive animals.

630
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: So it was a lot of fun from that standpoint.

631
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: So fast forward days one through four gets me a

632
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: day number five. Uh. You know, up to this point,

633
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: it's been great, been a lot of fun, but haven't

634
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: been able to close a deal. Night number five. I

635
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: think it was night number five or night number four.

636
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: Want to I don't know. We um, me and one

637
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: other guy, a guide. We're hiking down. They weren't talking

638
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: this night. We're coming down this ridge and we were

639
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: about to sit down and and just glass and listen

640
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: for a while. And we just come over this knob

641
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: and we spot some cow elk feeding right beneath us,

642
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: like seventy yards down beneath us in the shade. They

643
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: didn't see us. We stopped, snuck back a couple of steps,

644
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: and as we were going to kind of circle down

645
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: wind a little bit just to get a better view

646
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: and make sure our wind was good. As we did that,

647
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: something spooked them. Maybe they heard us, maybe our shadow

648
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: something that because the sun was at our back and

649
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: was casting along shadow, something spooked the elk. They go

650
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: running away. Um now, Dan, I don't think I've told

651
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: you the story at all, have I? No? I haven't, Okay,

652
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is brand new for you to So

653
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: the elko running down and we, you know, crouched down

654
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: like son of a gun. We just spooked these elk.

655
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: They're so close like if there was a bull in there,

656
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: we would have had a perfect set up, and that

657
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: was like our first really good opportunity, and we just

658
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: blew it because we spooked him somehow. So we're crouching there,

659
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: and as we're crouching there, I see this nice bull

660
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: come walking up the opposite hillside and we're like, shoot,

661
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: we screwed it up. There was a nice I think

662
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: it was a five by five um. It might have

663
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: been a six point. I couldn't tell if he had

664
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: the double fronts, the double kind of brow times their

665
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: eye guards or whatever they call my west. I couldn't

666
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: tell if he had one or two on each side.

667
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: So possibly a six by six, definitely five by five um.

668
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: And he stands there AND's just staring right at us.

669
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: So I'm pissed at myself. We are um for having

670
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: spooked him. But we just stayed there, crowd coached, and

671
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: he just stood there staring at us for like thirty

672
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: five minutes, literally thirty minutes, thirty five minutes. He just

673
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: stares there, staring in the general direction, not exactly asked.

674
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he ever really spotted us, just he

675
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: knew something over that didn't seem right. So we're crouched,

676
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: he's standing half an hour passes. Finally he says, okay,

677
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't see anything anymore. I think it's safe, puts

678
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: his head down, starts feeding, feeds behind a tree. Dave,

679
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: the guy I'm with, he backs up behind me and

680
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: goes back to fifty yards and starts cow calling. First,

681
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: the bull doesn't really seem to care about it all.

682
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: He just keeps feeding, keeps feeding. But finally he looks up.

683
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 1: He bugles once in our direction, and then he keeps

684
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: feeding and again he's probably two hundred yards away on

685
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: the opposite you know, there's a deep ravine between us,

686
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: and he's on this opposite ridge two hundred three hundred

687
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: yards away. He keeps feeding, and then he starts walking

688
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: parallel to us on this other ridge, kind of uphill

689
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: and away from us, goes behind a bunch of trees.

690
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: I lose sight of him, so at this point looks

691
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: like he's going away, going uphill. Um I sneak back

692
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: to go get Dave and tell him, hey, hey, we uh,

693
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: we're losing this elk. We probably need to make a

694
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: new plan. He's not responding to the calls, so we

695
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: start walking back towards the front side of our ridge

696
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: to kind of drop down and start maybe seeing if

697
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: we can get going up that other ridge after him.

698
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: And as we do that, Dave was like, we'll stop.

699
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: The bull had dropped down after he got in the

700
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: trees and I couldn't see him. He dropped down in

701
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: the valley and was coming back to us, and he

702
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: busted us again or saw some kind of movement or something,

703
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: because they're like a hundred yards He's frozen there looking

704
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: at our general direction again and we're like, shoot, we

705
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: just do again. No, our wind was perfect this whole time,

706
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: so he must not have really really seen us though,

707
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: because he must have just heard the noise or something,

708
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: because Dave was able to drop back behind me again

709
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: without him seeing and start calling. Start Kyle calling again.

710
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 1: He Kyle calls, I'm frozen there. Long story short. Finally

711
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: I start seeing movement up to my left and he

712
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: had circled down or circled up up the hill, got

713
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: way above us and his circling trying to get to

714
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: be down wind of us, circling up in our round.

715
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: So I see him. I dropped to my knees knock

716
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: an arrow. He's about eight yards away, kind of starting

717
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: to angle towards me. It's really thick though. I don't

718
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: have any good shots. So I start belly crawling almost

719
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: through the brush and stuff, trying to get to an

720
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: opening where I'm watching where he's going. I'm looking at

721
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: where I'm at, and I'm trying to anticipate. Okay, where

722
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: do I need to get to to get a shot.

723
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: So I'm scooting along, scooting along. There's one opening he

724
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: goes through. He's seventy five yards. I'm like, all right

725
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: for me, I wanted to I wanted a shot within

726
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: fifty yards. Um, A lot of guys out there shoot

727
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: past sixty, but I really wanted to be in the

728
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: fifty yard ballpark. Maybe a little bit longer if I

729
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: absolutely had to. But really my comfortable zone was other

730
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: than fifty, So obviously seventy five yards I wasn't taking

731
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: that shot. He goes cruising through that. I'm now scurring

732
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: around in all the four is trying to get to

733
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: another spot with my bow, and UM, I get to

734
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: my final spot, I'm like, okay, this is gonna be

735
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: this is my one good lane. I think he's gonna

736
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: come through within range. So I really quickly ranged a

737
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: couple of spots, and he's like starting to move faster,

738
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: coming this way, and then all of a sudden, he

739
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: sticks out of his neck. He's probably about like sixty

740
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: five yards away up but behind brush, but I can

741
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: still see him. I see him stick out his neck

742
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: in front of him and just let out just a scream,

743
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: just a nasty and then he tucks his neck back

744
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: in and then starts hauling it, starts trotting right past,

745
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: coming right down towards me, and I'm like, holy smokes,

746
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: he's going to run right through my lane. This is it.

747
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: He gets into my lane right as it gets to

748
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: the lane. I'm drawn back. I bleak to stop him.

749
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: He stops right in the shooting lane, and I've ranged

750
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: a couple of things in front of him. Behind him.

751
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: He's at forty five yards drew back. He stopped right

752
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: there about broadside, maybe a touch quartering two, but really good.

753
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: I feel greatly this is the shot. He stops. Let

754
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: her rip right behind the shoulder. The arrow looks good

755
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: at the take off, and then instantly on the release

756
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: that some of the guns spun just as fast as

757
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: any white til I ever seen, But instead of just

758
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: dropping right down, he spun he jumped that string and

759
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: spun a full ninety degrees between the time I released

760
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: my arrow in the time it hit him. Instead of

761
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: hitting HI behind the shoulder, it hit him right in between,

762
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: right in the chest, right between the two legs, you know,

763
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: as if you were walking right towards me. Hit him

764
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: right there, spun around, continue finished his spin, and went

765
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: tearing out of there. So of course I was, you know,

766
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: flustered and excited by the encounter and the shot, but

767
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: really unhappy obviously with the hit. Um. You know, I

768
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: know that kind of shot. Sometimes people will take that shot.

769
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: It can kill an animal. You can definitely get in

770
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: the vitals. But in my opinions, a shot I would

771
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: never personally take on purpose. UM. Was obviously not the

772
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: shot I wanted. UM. But at that point still I thought, Okay,

773
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: not what I wanted to happen at all. But there's

774
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: still it looked like I got good penetration. It looked

775
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: like I could have got into that cavity. UM. So

776
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: at that point I was still relatively optimistic. UM, long

777
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: story short, because I know we're coming up on time here.

778
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: He tore off. Eventually later that night started tracking. We

779
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: had great blood for like two yards really good blood.

780
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: I thought we'd come up on any point. Finally found

781
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: a spot he bedded down. You can see coagulated blood

782
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: there and stuff. And after that we found he headed

783
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: straight downhill. From that point we found four little pin

784
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: pricks of blood and then nothing. And we tracked all

785
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: that night and most a good part of the next day,

786
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: and we just grid searched and we circled, and we

787
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: walked all these canyons and all these ridges and every

788
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: low spot and every while we just searched and searched

789
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: and search and search, and we never found a bowl

790
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: man's top. Yeah it's um man, I mean, as you know,

791
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: that's that's about as low as it gets for a hunter.

792
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: UM obviously, very upset, very disappointed. The only difference, you know,

793
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: as anyone who's listening to this podcast for a while. Nos,

794
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: last year I hit a white tail and wounded and

795
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: lost my first white tail ever, and that was a

796
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: really hard experience, UM obviously. And during that experience I

797
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: went back and looked at that encounter over and over

798
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: and over in my head again and thought through, I

799
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: should done that differently. I could have done this differently,

800
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: I could have changed if I would have just done

801
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: this this time, when I went and tried to replay

802
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: the scenario over and over and over again in my head,

803
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done anything differently. Like, I really feel

804
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: like I did everything I possibly could have to get,

805
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, to make this a clean, ethical kill, and

806
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: in the end, I just you can't control what that

807
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: elk does in that moment after you shoot the arrow. Yeah,

808
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: and um so, I don't know, in some tiny little way,

809
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: it's a slight um I'm struggling to find the right word,

810
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: but I can't figure out the right word. It's very,

811
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: very upsetting. But I guess I feel that at least

812
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: in this scenario, I don't think I could have done

813
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: anything differently. I think it was just like a mother

814
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: nature type of thing, Like just when you hunt, wild

815
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: animals do wild things, and you can't control that. Um So,

816
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, my lesson learned from this is just always

817
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: always do everything you can to make sure you get

818
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: the best, most ethical, clean kill you possibly can. Work

819
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: your tail off practice, do all those things, and execute

820
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: the hunt as best as you can. In the end,

821
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, it is out of your hands in the

822
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: very end. And I guess that was my big lesson

823
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: learned here is that you can do everything you possibly

824
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: can and sometimes it's still won't go the way you

825
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: want to. So I can't control that at one bit. No,

826
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: So that's um. That was my elk hunt. It was

827
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: obviously very very disappointing and UM sad way to end

828
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: the hunt. But if I, if I look outside of that,

829
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: the rest of the experience is great. So UM big

830
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: thank you to the guys that Danner and lacross an

831
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: opal Butte for a cool hunt and a fun time

832
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: and some great lessons learned. And I really looked at

833
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: it as elk hunting lessons. That's what I thought this

834
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: week would be, really just trying to learn from these

835
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: guys that know what they're doing, and so it's pretty

836
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: cool from that standpoint. So it's time for white kilw

837
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: It's time for white tail. So um yeah, you and

838
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: me we um We've got some hunts coming up, but

839
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: we won't talk about the white tail stuff now. We're

840
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: gonna have another podcast episode coming up very very soon

841
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: that we will be talking about white tail stuff. So

842
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: I think Dan we should just zip our lips right now.

843
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: Save the white tail excitement for another day and shut

844
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: this show down. Short and sweet, short and sweet today,

845
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: so well that being the case, really really quickly, make

846
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: sure you're checking out The white Tail Q and A podcast.

847
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,040
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848
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,279
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849
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: the podcast. It's really short and sweet, so check that

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Speaker 1: out on iTunes or on Wired and hunt dot com. Um.

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Speaker 1: We of course need to thank our partners who helped

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Speaker 1: make this podcast possible. Big thank you to seek a

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Speaker 1: Gear Trophy, Ridge Bear Archery, Redneck Blinds on Terra Maps, Ozonics,

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Speaker 1: North America. Thank you to all those guys, and finally,

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Speaker 1: most importantly, thank you all for listening to this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for dealing with our absence last week and sticking

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Speaker 1: with us to to hear about things today. So I

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed the show, hope things are going well

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Speaker 1: for you if your season has opened, and whether or

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Speaker 1: not it has, we wish you all the luck in

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Speaker 1: the world on your next hunt, and until next time,

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Speaker 1: stay Wired to Hunt.