WEBVTT - EPISODE 8: Jamal Crawford Joins The Show!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this league. I'm cutting in the world of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four NBA News. Just dude, you lose. Chris Haines,

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<v Speaker 1>did go time, Mark Stein, diet show Time, Chris Haines

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<v Speaker 1>and march Stein. This liague uncutting is underway and on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>This should be a good one. Yes, indeed on fire

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<v Speaker 1>tonight with this episode we got mann Stein. We got

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<v Speaker 1>a special guest today. I mean I hit him up

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<v Speaker 1>last minute. I hit him up because he he was

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<v Speaker 1>just bestowed upon a great honor, a great i'll call

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<v Speaker 1>a legendary honor, and I want to get his um.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to hear his thoughts on what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to be in this role that he's gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>up on an All Star weekend Salt Lake City. It's

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<v Speaker 1>our guy, our guy. I look, man, this my first

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<v Speaker 1>year cover in the league. He was in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>the Portland Trail Blasser's locker room, so he was I

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<v Speaker 1>was a rookie. He was a van at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he's a rookie in his role that he's in.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not wearing the big suits no more, though you

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<v Speaker 1>got Taylor and nobody the other then Jay Crossover himself,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamal Crawford, who is now a colleague of us in

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<v Speaker 1>the media side and the colleague of mine with TNT

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<v Speaker 1>Jamal Crawford, and he just congratulations, brother, you will be

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<v Speaker 1>a judge for the Slam Dunk Contest this coming up weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Man Chris starn I couldn't believe when I was asked

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<v Speaker 1>to be a judge because I can barely dunk. I

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<v Speaker 1>may have ten dunks in my career. I said, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>sure you want me to judges contest, but I may

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<v Speaker 1>give a fresh perspective because those guys, they can all

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<v Speaker 1>all the other judges can do every dunk imaginable. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm being awesome the stuff over since I'm excited. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you are a student of the game, an unquestioned student

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, so I'm sure that's why you are

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. But it's funny, Chris said, legendary honor. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also a legendary burden. Now, I have only judged one

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<v Speaker 1>dunk contest in my life. It was a G League

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<v Speaker 1>dunk contest at this showcase. But you know, on your

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<v Speaker 1>last on the Tuesday night TNT show, you and Shat

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got into a little bit because Shack was

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<v Speaker 1>saying miss dunks, he automatically grades down. While I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was from the Shack school. I graded these guys

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<v Speaker 1>so hard and people were booing me. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>the most hated judge in the history. And this was only,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the G League Showcase. So all eyes are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on you. Are you ready for this? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what? It took some some arm twisting, but my son,

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<v Speaker 1>my twelve year old son JJ and my son Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, Dad, you gotta do this. So I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, this is legendary. I've seen so many dunk contests,

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<v Speaker 1>from the Dominique Jordan to the Vince car in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand doing the Windmills to the Elbow in the Rim,

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<v Speaker 1>to the Kobe Bryants to Jared Riders and Zach Levine

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Gordon showdown. So I've seen so many, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited about being apartment for sure. I'm not I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I'd be as hard on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>talent as you were Stein, but I'm definitely excited. Now, Jamal,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take me through this process right now. Man. So

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<v Speaker 1>as we record right now, this is Wednesday night, the

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<v Speaker 1>Slam Dunk Contest is Saturday. What is your preparation for

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<v Speaker 1>an event like this? What are you gonna be doing

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<v Speaker 1>to get yourself geared up and to prepare? And I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know about like, how are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>evaluate when it's time? Yeah, I'm I'm going back and

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<v Speaker 1>watch some old videos obviously, and just see things that

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<v Speaker 1>I may have missed, certain dumps, you know, because you

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<v Speaker 1>want you want originality, you want stuff that's fresh, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to give these guys to reward them

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<v Speaker 1>for that. I don't want to get away all the secrets,

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<v Speaker 1>but it may be something that comes a little different

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<v Speaker 1>that I think the fans may like as far as

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<v Speaker 1>how the judgment's going and how things are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looked at. So that should be something to look out for.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm not gonna be like Stein and Shock.

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<v Speaker 1>They're from the old school. I'm from the old school,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got a new school labor as well, So

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<v Speaker 1>I will mix the two together and hopefully as Dumbo

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<v Speaker 1>part comes out right. Oh look, I have serious respect

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone who enters the contest at this point because

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<v Speaker 1>it is it is a thankless job. Everybody wants it

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<v Speaker 1>to be as good as Aaron Gordon versus Zach Lavine

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<v Speaker 1>or some of the old school battles like you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean at my my my freshman year in high school

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<v Speaker 1>was the year the NBA brought the Slam Dunk Contest

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<v Speaker 1>back nineteen eighty four, Larry Nance, Doctor Jay. Like at

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<v Speaker 1>my school, there was nothing bigger than All Stars Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dunk Contest. It was the number for my

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<v Speaker 1>group of friends. It was the number one night of

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<v Speaker 1>the school year. And but at this point, we've i mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't away seen every time. I mean, it's I

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<v Speaker 1>I feel for these guys because they're like, we want

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<v Speaker 1>them to do things that are humanly impossible. Yes, they

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<v Speaker 1>have to jump over like they have to bring out

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<v Speaker 1>a mock fake uh empire state building, their space, need

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<v Speaker 1>to jump over that for us to be like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>that was nice, right, Like we've seen so much stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's it's gonna be a challenge for all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. But I'm gonna tip my hat to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully you know, I'm not can't give any ideas

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm gonna judge, but I'm hopefully inspired him in

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<v Speaker 1>some ways and hopefully you know, Harold minor and Carl Blow.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw Carl Blows coming out, so it should be especial.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right now, Jamal. Also, for those who don't know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there are four participants in this year's Slam Dunk Contest

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<v Speaker 1>Jericho Sounds from the Knicks, Matt mcclough who just signed

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<v Speaker 1>with the Sixers but he was in the G League,

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Murphy the third New Orleans, and Kenyan Martin Junior

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<v Speaker 1>with Houston. Now, since these names have surface, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, you know, there's been some what's the word

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<v Speaker 1>I should use, uh, people saying that they're not interesting

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<v Speaker 1>in watching these guys play because it's not watching these

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<v Speaker 1>guys before I should say, because it's not the big names.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been able to see some of these parts? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, I'm to be honest with you, of

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<v Speaker 1>all the four guys, I saw some dunks from Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Murphy and of course Kei Martin he's been dunking ever

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<v Speaker 1>since he got in the league. But that's that's only

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<v Speaker 1>two I'm really familiar with as far as like knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what they're capable of doing. Like, have you seen enough

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<v Speaker 1>of these four guys to know what they're capable of

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. Decided, Yes, I've seen not all four. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen actually I believe three of the four and I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen I'm gonna say who it is, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>one I haven't seen as much, and talking to some people,

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<v Speaker 1>he could be an early favorite. You know, so I

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<v Speaker 1>know you, I know what you're talking about, but go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>up in his bag. So I'm excited about this because,

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<v Speaker 1>like Shack said yesterday, and like signing a little to

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Nights everything, that's when you make your name. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when people who don't know much about you learn about you.

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<v Speaker 1>They learn your story. Maybe remember Kenny Skywalker. More people

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<v Speaker 1>start and Deep Brown pucked up his shoes and more

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<v Speaker 1>people start their story and their journey after those. Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Stansbury in Indiana, we wouldn't have even have known him

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<v Speaker 1>as an NBA player in those days, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>a dunk contest fixture. Was it the Statue of Liberty

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<v Speaker 1>with dunk? Did he have? He had one of those,

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<v Speaker 1>one of those dunks that were ye time. So he

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<v Speaker 1>always learned about those guys and even the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily want it. You learned when Doug West was

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<v Speaker 1>in it before and guys like that. So I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Like I said, it's an unbelievable honor. Unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>you ever judge, if you ever judged the dunk contest

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<v Speaker 1>at any at any level. No, Stein, I actually reft.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my lashing the league, I reft to practice.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to kill those guys. They were complaining so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm never doing as kids. Yeah, I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the hot seat. I'm in the hot seat now, that's

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. So you you mentioned earlier, you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a little mixture of new school old school what you're judging.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't come in save. You can't come in Sawve

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<v Speaker 1>because people know you to be in a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in guys, but when it comes to basketball or

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<v Speaker 1>anything related with that, I take it serious. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not coming in, but I'm not coming in with the

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<v Speaker 1>iron fifty either. It's gonna be somewhere in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>But it all depends. The dunk can be something like yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I know how difficult that is as well, so it

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<v Speaker 1>mail get a higher score. But my question is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be if somebody misses eight dunks a lot. Nate Robertson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>am I gonna give him that that that love on

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<v Speaker 1>that knife dunker. I'm gonna say, you know what, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it eight times you should have made at this point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>those are the dunks that like, it's a fifty dunk,

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<v Speaker 1>but it took you five, six, seven attempts to get

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<v Speaker 1>to it. And then everybody knows the dunk you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to execute already, you know what I mean, Like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no there's nothing to Yeah, there's nothing to the imagination

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<v Speaker 1>at that point. So that's that's what I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's what And I wish that all judges,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess that's the unique thing about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish all judges could be on the same page and

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<v Speaker 1>judge that way. Like if you if all you guys say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to duck points for missing or four ducks

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<v Speaker 1>in the road before before you start exactly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody be on the same page. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be like that. But yeah, and then Jamal,

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<v Speaker 1>are you going so you just knowing? I know you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know everything right now, but some of these dunks,

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<v Speaker 1>you really have to look at the replay before you, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to see everything they did right, Yeah, and I man

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<v Speaker 1>missed something, so you're absolutely right. I'm gonna look at

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<v Speaker 1>the replay. But I'm telling you I'm gonna be I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be firm but fair. I'na be firm over Shack

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<v Speaker 1>slash Steine. I feel like Stein's leading towards Shack on it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm like, I don't. It's not often that

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with the big man, but on this one, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, if you the minute you miss one dunk,

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<v Speaker 1>like you've lost me. And it's pretty ironic for someone

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<v Speaker 1>five nine to say that, who couldn't dunk without a ladder?

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I'm sorry, Like, if you try to dunk,

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<v Speaker 1>I expect you to make it right. I agree, I

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<v Speaker 1>agree so them all. There's again, there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pushback on the dunk contest, people saying, man, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they should go through a hiatus because the big players,

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<v Speaker 1>the big stars, aren't participating. And these are guys that

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<v Speaker 1>most you know, most NBA fans probably wouldn't know about.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your taking? When did you start seeing the trend?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you were playing, when you saw the trend of

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<v Speaker 1>stars participating to non stars participate, and do you think

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<v Speaker 1>the dunk contest can be rejuvenated. I think for these

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<v Speaker 1>guys and everybody coming afterwards. I feel like this is

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity because people are already going into it, like Yellow

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<v Speaker 1>Dunk Contest. It is missing some stars, it's missing a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of that flavor. This is an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>bring it back. I felt like it was heading that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you had guys like Zach Lavin and Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon have that classic showdown where people are interested in

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<v Speaker 1>the dunk contests again. You know, the opportunity for these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking at it going into it positively, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you guys have an opportunity to bring

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<v Speaker 1>this back because it's kind of been frowned upon a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit for a while as soon as the stars

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<v Speaker 1>stopped being in Like imagine Lebron and Kobe and these

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<v Speaker 1>guys at their peak, the peak of their power is

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<v Speaker 1>getting these dunk contests, and that that right there alone

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<v Speaker 1>brings a whole nother fan base. It kind of brings

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<v Speaker 1>the world to watch it. So you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that right now at the moment, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. Collectively. I mean, you understand the player

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<v Speaker 1>mentality much better than we ever will, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just give me your honest take here. I always thought

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many sponsors in this league. If somebody

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<v Speaker 1>put a real a million dollars winner, take off to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the number is. But just if somebody put a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy number for the dunk contest, would not work. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not for Lebron, but wouldn't wouldn't not get stars to

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<v Speaker 1>do it if it was just a seven figure prize.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree. But now the way the money's going,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. If a million will say ten million,

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<v Speaker 1>ten million dollars, everybody out there. I mean, you'll have

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<v Speaker 1>everybody out there at that point. If you go five

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<v Speaker 1>ten million dollars for dunk contests, you have guys who

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<v Speaker 1>ain't dunk in years coming out of retirement and try

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<v Speaker 1>and get that. I think that's what needs to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're absolutely right. They have to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>up it, and if we get sponsors in it and

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<v Speaker 1>then the dunk contest to be at its peak. How

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<v Speaker 1>many times did you participate in the three point contests? None?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually got invited that right, Yeah? None, I got

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<v Speaker 1>invited one time, and I actually got invited for the

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<v Speaker 1>Skills Challenge as well. But I said, if I make

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<v Speaker 1>an All Star game, I'll do everything. But I would

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten dunk contest. I can't even dunk. I had

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<v Speaker 1>two dunks and pulled up lane. But I wanted to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to have a reason to go, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just go to do the other stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is my first off ever. Are you so you've

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<v Speaker 1>never been to an All Star Weekend ever? I always

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<v Speaker 1>promised myself I would never go just a party, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is my first one. Wow, I didn't know that, Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it being on the media side of the fence.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen you since you've kind of launched into

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. All When I hear the name Jamal Crawford,

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<v Speaker 1>I think of two things. He loves blackberries as much

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<v Speaker 1>as me. Even though I got to give him some

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<v Speaker 1>grief for finally giving him putting his aside, thank God,

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<v Speaker 1>and he On Dirk Navitsky's final home game, Jamal Crawford

0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:22.360
<v Speaker 1>sash add and threw up a fifty burger. In Dirk's

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<v Speaker 1>last game, man eyes on me. I had to go

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<v Speaker 1>out with a bang. The funny party is. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that was gonna be in Dirk's last game. That

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<v Speaker 1>was it was. It was believe. I remember having Chris

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<v Speaker 1>come on back with us, Man, I didn't know you

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<v Speaker 1>thought will be You thought it would be one persons

0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.760
<v Speaker 1>last game. Both be all hey, I said, were all

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<v Speaker 1>here for burp? They said, oh, we hed for dirt

0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:55.839
<v Speaker 1>in you But no, it was unbelievable. I had ball boys,

0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.760
<v Speaker 1>don't get the cameras in my phone out the locker room.

0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to to take that in because the

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<v Speaker 1>city that day was so electric. It was like they

0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.560
<v Speaker 1>knew and they wanted to thank him, And it was

0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:09.199
<v Speaker 1>like even waking up for shoot around, the city was electric.

0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget that. And to have that kind of

0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.240
<v Speaker 1>game and have Dirk win, I would have no other

0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.320
<v Speaker 1>way with him winning that particular game, but having that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of imprint in the game and him mentioning me

0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.240
<v Speaker 1>in the speech, and he gave me a jersey that night,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was the perfect send off for both of us.

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<v Speaker 1>What did he say to you after? Do you remember

0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.320
<v Speaker 1>he said on the mic? He said, yeah, Jamal trying

0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to steal my shoulder night like he tried to steal

0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.200
<v Speaker 1>my should to night and I kind of and the

0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.120
<v Speaker 1>fans star booing. I kind of grabbed a towel and

0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.200
<v Speaker 1>covering my face and laugh. It was all fun. It

0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.880
<v Speaker 1>was it was really cool. And on the jersey put

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<v Speaker 1>to Jay Smooth, which is really cool. So he's he's

0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.440
<v Speaker 1>unbelievable guy. He doesn't get talked about enough for being

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<v Speaker 1>as great as he was as a player. So it's okay, though,

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<v Speaker 1>if we call you a media member, now you're good

0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:59.400
<v Speaker 1>with that? Uh media member? Forever slash forever Hooper. I

0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.440
<v Speaker 1>think I'm so I'm wearing between, but I'm to ask

0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.360
<v Speaker 1>you a question. I'm gonna joining it. I love talking

0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the game. I was doing this anyway. It's amazing that

0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I have this kind of platform now because I was

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<v Speaker 1>just the same thing I've been doing forever. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I can talk the game with anybody, and now

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm coaching kids, I find different ways to communicate it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think everybody can kind of understand where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>coming from and kind of get a point across. And

0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:22.760
<v Speaker 1>they're searing me for the first time. I didn't talk

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<v Speaker 1>so much when I was playing. I try to let

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<v Speaker 1>my players are talking and go home. But now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking a lot and I'm enjoying it. A lot

0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.120
<v Speaker 1>of people don't understand. For those that don't know Jamal Crawford,

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<v Speaker 1>you can catch them on a Tuesday night NBA games

0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.400
<v Speaker 1>on Inside the NBA with TNT crew if Adam Left, Coo, Chemist,

0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Parker Shot and Jamal Jamal. So tell me about the

0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.680
<v Speaker 1>chemistry you guys are forming, because the show is getting

0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.800
<v Speaker 1>better and better and I can see you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked, you know, early, only your first couple of hits,

0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I was just telling you what I

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<v Speaker 1>what I like seeing about you, and then I think

0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.720
<v Speaker 1>you're bringing it to a just a whole new light. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people obviously respect your basketball nots, but one

0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:06.640
<v Speaker 1>thing I think a lot of people didn't know was

0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.480
<v Speaker 1>your personality. Like you had a personality. So can you

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<v Speaker 1>just tell me about like how you've adjusted with that

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<v Speaker 1>crew and what you guys are ultimately trying to do. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the biggest adjustment because, like you said that

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<v Speaker 1>that particular show, it's basketball, but you want to laugh

0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:25.920
<v Speaker 1>too while you're watching it, right, That's what we all watched,

0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Chuck and Ernie and Shack and and Kenny. So I'm like, okay.

0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:32.280
<v Speaker 1>The first show, I was like, okay, I'm a little

0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.800
<v Speaker 1>too stiff, like just talk like you're at home, like

0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and I call it mixtape mall. That's my podcast, mall.

0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just I did fat to make that adjustment.

0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.720
<v Speaker 1>It was like, oh, okay, Like we know the basketball stuff,

0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.680
<v Speaker 1>but now we're learning about who he is because he

0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't talk much when he played. And it's just me

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<v Speaker 1>every day. I'm not acting or anything, but in the back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're playing music. Me and Shack are having

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<v Speaker 1>a versus. He killed me last night, by the way,

0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.880
<v Speaker 1>but we have first time, but we're having like a

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<v Speaker 1>versus and all those of the things that chemistry off

0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.240
<v Speaker 1>the court, so to speak, you can start to see

0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.879
<v Speaker 1>it on screen, and I think that's so important. Like

0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting next to Chemis Parker. Kennis Parker is like

0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the best players period, man or women. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still such a fan of the game, Like, man,

0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.439
<v Speaker 1>that's Kennis Parker and left Coo, who's a star in

0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.280
<v Speaker 1>his own right right, and then shack Is speaks for itself.

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<v Speaker 1>So it took me a second to kind of get

0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:23.840
<v Speaker 1>over that part and say, yo, these are just friends,

0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.040
<v Speaker 1>were talking hoop, and then that chemistry starts to flow

0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and everything you start seeing behind the scenes is now

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<v Speaker 1>coming out on the screen. Oh no, real quick versus.

0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.720
<v Speaker 1>You guys are freestyling. Oh no, no, we're playing music

0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:39.520
<v Speaker 1>like we'll pick up okay, Like yes, it was nineties

0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.040
<v Speaker 1>hip hop. So we're going and we have everybody's in

0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.280
<v Speaker 1>the room judging, and it just it makes it a

0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.919
<v Speaker 1>free flowing type atmosphere. And that like now I'm like, oh,

0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:49.399
<v Speaker 1>that's your shack's my homie, you know what I mean,

0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.199
<v Speaker 1>that's my friend versus and that shoul Quille O'Neill so

0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:57.359
<v Speaker 1>much better with that chemistry. That's dope. So I gotta

0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.960
<v Speaker 1>ask you a Tuesday night, there was an epic moment.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the studio reaction when this happened? Kauai? You

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<v Speaker 1>got the West the conference being so statned and a

0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.399
<v Speaker 1>win can get you up in the standings dramatically, So

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<v Speaker 1>why is it so important to get on a good

0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.879
<v Speaker 1>rhythm these next couple of weeks? Like you said, the

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<v Speaker 1>West records are so close together, so you know, any

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<v Speaker 1>win matters, and we just gotta keep getting better ourselves. Though, Kawi,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your excitement. Man, thank you. Back to you guys.

0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.960
<v Speaker 1>We knew Chris had that TNT blood because it was

0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.919
<v Speaker 1>so dead painted, so funny. Everybody started cracking up laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was funny because Left was like, man, Chris

0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.520
<v Speaker 1>is such a pro because getting quire to be excited

0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:47.120
<v Speaker 1>about anything, it's something in itself. So it was really

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<v Speaker 1>good and it came off really good. We all start

0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.359
<v Speaker 1>laughing for sure. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know

0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.520
<v Speaker 1>anything about that. No, that was Kauai. That's a tough

0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:58.440
<v Speaker 1>interview because his answers were so short. Yeah, you gotta

0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:02.800
<v Speaker 1>have that next question, like right, but yeah, but Chris,

0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Chris is taking pictures with cool I mean, he's interview

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.680
<v Speaker 1>with Kawhi. He's taking pictures with Kelly Rowland talking about

0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I know what y'all did on Valentine's Day. That's right,

0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:15.399
<v Speaker 1>that's right, right, Don't don't disrespect ball, don't disrespect because

0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I saw I waited. I let the whole dolls that

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<v Speaker 1>Time's Day play out. I saw everybody posting pictures of

0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.919
<v Speaker 1>the couples their relationship. I let it play out. I

0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.119
<v Speaker 1>had that Kelly Roland already in the in the bad

0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:31.320
<v Speaker 1>and I wanna wait till the next morning him with that, Yeah,

0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.200
<v Speaker 1>you knew everybody's putting all their best stuff out of

0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.200
<v Speaker 1>that day. You said, yeah, I'm gonna have my Thanksgiving

0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:41.560
<v Speaker 1>food the next day while y'all well. I was so

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>excited when Chris told me we were gonna have you

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<v Speaker 1>on because actually Tuesday night. And this is the highest

0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:49.960
<v Speaker 1>compliment that you can pay to an analyst. And when

0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.280
<v Speaker 1>a writer does it, like when a writer writes something

0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that I would say, Man, I wish I wrote that.

0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.480
<v Speaker 1>That's like the highest compliment you can pay to a writer.

0:19:57.720 --> 0:19:59.400
<v Speaker 1>And now I'm gonna give it to you as an analyst.

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<v Speaker 1>You said health is the best defense that the Phoenix

0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Suns will see for the rest of the season. I

0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, damn, I wish I said that on TV.

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:12.000
<v Speaker 1>That's good. So are you You are that confident that

0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the new Phoenix Suns with Durant joining Devin Book or

0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul DeAndre Aiden, You're that confident that health is

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that can stop these guys. I need

0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:22.760
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you. First off, you're a legend

0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and everybody in the business knows it. But to be

0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.359
<v Speaker 1>honest with you. So that's the ultimate compliment. But to

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.320
<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, that's what I believe with them, Like,

0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.560
<v Speaker 1>they won't need the transition time. A lot of teams

0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.840
<v Speaker 1>will like, yeah, these next twenty games that win games

0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.480
<v Speaker 1>or lose games, I'll figure it out. But with Durant

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<v Speaker 1>already being a finals MVP two times over, with Chris

0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and Devin already going to the finals, DeAndre aiden as well,

0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:50.640
<v Speaker 1>they'll figure it out. In any discrepancies, arguments, things they'll have.

0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I know all three of them, I played with two

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.680
<v Speaker 1>of the three. Their basketball knowledge, how much they love

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>the game, will win out, so the argument will never

0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:01.680
<v Speaker 1>be a bad even don't see eye to eye, their

0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.040
<v Speaker 1>love for the game, their love for the sport, and

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.480
<v Speaker 1>their love for winning will actually went out no matter

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.760
<v Speaker 1>what they come across. So I think health is the

0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.240
<v Speaker 1>only real defense against those guys. Think about it in

0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:15.359
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs especially, I mean, obviously people frown up on

0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the mid range. You have three mid range specialists like

0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.600
<v Speaker 1>that are going to be getting those shots over and

0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.840
<v Speaker 1>over and over again, and they make them at the

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.680
<v Speaker 1>highest level. Like the playoffs, opposite teams know they're played.

0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:30.879
<v Speaker 1>The opposing teams better. It's played just as bell as

0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.680
<v Speaker 1>they do. Right. So now you have three guys who

0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:36.919
<v Speaker 1>can create a mismatch, create a look. And like I

0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.680
<v Speaker 1>said last night, yeah they lost some defense. That's that's obvious,

0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.480
<v Speaker 1>but it won't be about them stopping guys all game.

0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Can you get timely stops? Can you go the next

0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:49.359
<v Speaker 1>five minutes getting you know, six seven, eight straight stops

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:51.000
<v Speaker 1>because you'll you'll do what you need to do on offense.

0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think health's their only opponents. No,

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree with you right there. I think

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<v Speaker 1>health right, if they're healthy, to me, they're a team

0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.720
<v Speaker 1>to be And I told you a mind that um

0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:05.919
<v Speaker 1>last night when I run across from at the Lakers

0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Clippers game last night, that I did and he disagreed,

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.639
<v Speaker 1>and you know, respectfully. So he believes that. Yeah, he

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:15.359
<v Speaker 1>believes it should go through them when they're healthy because

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.920
<v Speaker 1>they know their selves and you know, and more power

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:20.920
<v Speaker 1>to them. But I just think Phoenix is not done.

0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to keep continue to add something.

0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Jamal Stein, I gotta tell you, I gotta I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>story to tell you real quick. Something that happened to

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<v Speaker 1>me as it pertains the All Star Weekend. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of told Stein over the phone. I didn't tell them

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, but I told him I'm gonna reveal it

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<v Speaker 1>on this pod. So you guys let me know what

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<v Speaker 1>you think. So this is your first All Star Weekend, Jamal,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully it won't be your last. But every All Star Weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>our brother Kenny Smith has a party. Usually it's a

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night party. Always have big rap artists come through perform.

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<v Speaker 1>He's given away, you know, expensive gifts like the who's

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<v Speaker 1>who are people? They come to this event? It's are

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<v Speaker 1>you putting pressure on me? Disclaimer? Here are you? You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta come? You gotta come, I gotta come. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you get something away, but go ahead. I'm sorry. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So whatever, So I didn't you know, that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to, but I didn't get it. Invite, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get anything innat email, I didn't get a phone called, nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>So yesterday I text Kenny because I said, hey, Kenny,

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<v Speaker 1>are you having your your event this time around? And

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<v Speaker 1>then he immediately calls me back. So he calls me.

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<v Speaker 1>I pick up. He said, hey, man, Hey, he said, hell, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having Hey I'm having my event. Man, we're back

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<v Speaker 1>back when we back, we're doing it. And he was like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>so you didn't get the memo, you didn't get them

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<v Speaker 1>the email or anything. Nobody reached out to you. I'm like, nah, Knny,

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>nobody reached out. He's like, okay, well somebody should have

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.639
<v Speaker 1>reached out. He said, because this year we're incorporating a

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<v Speaker 1>poker tournament. And I'm like okay. He was like, an

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 1>it's a celebrity poker tournament and I want you in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like what I'm talking like what you won't

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<v Speaker 1>be And I'm thinking this in my head, like yeah,

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. They want me in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like okay. He started throwing out names, say Adam

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Sandler is gonna be in there. He named some other

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<v Speaker 1>people I've forgotten. I was like, damn. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Kenny, if you need me, man, I'm there.

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<v Speaker 1>If you need me, I'm there. And so he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, cool, cool, call my boy. He gave me

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>his boys never called my boy. Tell me in You're good,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. The problem is I've never played poker before

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. I have I have no clue for

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing. So I've arranged when I get when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done with this pod, my neighbors are coming over

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna get me a quick tutorial poker. We

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<v Speaker 1>got an hour slot tonight. I'm getting pizza and wings

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna try to teach me how. Jamal Stein,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't say I couldn't say no. He asked me

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<v Speaker 1>to come be a part of his celebrity poker tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>He threw big games out there. You asked it and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what you were asking. I was maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he knew you, maybe he knew you never played. And

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<v Speaker 1>they just want to take all your money. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to Now you got all that TNT money, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to take it. Listen, this is the thing. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to know how to move in the game. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't need to be the best, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be putting the card down. That's that

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<v Speaker 1>that can't be playing, you know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to know the basics right now. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't forget to practice your poker face too, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big deal. So so wait a second, though,

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>in all your trips to when you go to Vegas?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you play anything black anything every year? The only

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<v Speaker 1>thing closest to Gambler that I've ever participated in would

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<v Speaker 1>probably blackjacks. I don't do cars. I don't never have.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do dice either. I lost the car shooting dice.

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<v Speaker 1>What would Michael Jordan don't do that either. Maybe you can,

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe you could just sneak in and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fade to the background, and maybe you can. You can,

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<v Speaker 1>because I gotta be honest. I don't learning poker in

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<v Speaker 1>one hour that I'm not the Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I at least learn the basics because I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to blend in? I don't. I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to dominate. That's not gonna happen. Can I just

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<v Speaker 1>blend in and act like I know what I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>that hour? That hour you better be locked in, don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't wings until that that that hour's over with, and

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<v Speaker 1>then see if you can go thirty extra man, just

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<v Speaker 1>to test yourself, because just blend, don't embarrass yourself, and

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 1>don't lose all your I see with this with this

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<v Speaker 1>pod being released before the poker tournament, now, I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure everybody's gonna be asking to set my table. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fresh meat. Why I wouldn't there? Yeah, well listen if

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<v Speaker 1>i'm if I'm eliminated early, hey, I don't lose money.

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 1>And Katy didn't getting the details. He didn't get the details.

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>He didn't tell me if it's a buy in or

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<v Speaker 1>how muddy take or maybe maybe on Twitter you'll get

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>some poker coaches who actually want to help you even

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<v Speaker 1>more so you can prep even more before you do it.

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll take it off, huh. Never. Never. I'm not a

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>card I'm not a brilliant card guy. Man. I threw

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<v Speaker 1>some dominoes through some bones. You know, no, none of that,

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>none of that, none of that. It's all a familiar territory. Man.

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>But I'm going tomorrow. He picked me to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the celebrity poker tournament. Well you found him.

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:42.719
<v Speaker 1>And then he just said, okay, you're looking for me.

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>You found me. Yeah, get that money. You better be careful.

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Just expect just expensive. Whatever you lose, just expensive. I'my

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<v Speaker 1>dinner dinner with dinner with Kenny. I'm try Yes, one

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<v Speaker 1>last thing, one last thing I want to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>real quick. I'm at the Lakers. Um, excuse me, Clippers

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Warriors game last night, and Q Tips is approaching me.

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Never met Q tip in my life, but you know,

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>he's a genius hip hop genius man. What man, He's

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 1>just hip hop genius man whatever. And so I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward because he's approaching me. So he comes over, he

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.479
<v Speaker 1>approaches me, and I stopped him, and he asked he's

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<v Speaker 1>with a crew. He's like, somebody's behind him, but I

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>don't really know who that is, but he's with a crew,

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 1>and so I stop him and we're talking, Hey, man,

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>much love, blah blah blah. He's showing me love back whatever.

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And so there's a guy that's waiting right behind him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not even paying him no mind. I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm stopping q tip and the guys kind

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<v Speaker 1>of waiting for me to stop with q tips so

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>they can continue on their path. But this is qute Tip.

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm chopping up with q tips. And so anyway, Q

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<v Speaker 1>Tip Leeds, we finished our greeting. Q Tip Leeds. Reggie

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<v Speaker 1>Miller sees q Tip, gives him pound, talks to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the guy behind him Regie Miller, Lyell's Leonardo Leonardo.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Leonardo, he had a mask on, he took

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>his mask off. It was Leonardo DiCaprio. I'm like, man,

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I understood Leonardo up. But you know, I'm like, disrespectful. M.

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I disrespectful, m. I. If this is the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>luck you have, don't go to that poker game to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Leonardo DiCaprio. I missed Leonardo DiCaprio, man right there,

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<v Speaker 1>right there. So after I felt like, damn, I feel man.

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like a straight man. What did missus

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<v Speaker 1>Haynes stay when you told her that story? Well, she wasn't.

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>She didn't have a problem with that. She had a

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>problem with the Kelly Roland I posted in Kelly Roland. Yeah,

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>that's the problem. That was a problem. Chris is walking

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>around this dude rag too tighty sales, brainy sale. That's crazy.

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>That was the problems. Yea. She was like, I don't

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>care about the picture, but you're putting out there like

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that's really your valetipe. And so I'm like, hey, you

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>gotta give me a pass on That one made me.

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Y'all was still good because I didn't know what Chris

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>was doing with that one. It's something people. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get pass. Come on, let me live by fantasy out.

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Come on. Now, that's Kelly Roland. It's better than my wife.

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>She was on TNT last night taking shots at my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Hoster we saw saw everywhere said that gold. Yeah. I

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe it. That was gold. You got lit up?

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>You got lit up? I did. I said, you're lucky.

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>You already got about the gift because I swear it's

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>been candy and flowers. It wouldn't have been no, but everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody got lit up, man, everybody, everybody. I was all right,

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>y'all doing a good job. Jamal, I'm proud of you. Man.

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I gotta I gotta throw one more player mentality question

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>at him, because because I think this is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>part of All Star weekend, I think I will not

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>be there. But what I am looking forward to, probably

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>more than anything, is the captain's pick. Because from the

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>minute we had captains in the All Star Game, I

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>was screaming from the rooftops, please let the captains just

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 1>pick these guys at the game. Let's make it like

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a real pickup game. Now, I don't know that it's

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be that good. We still don't know all the details.

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>We still don't know if is it really gonna be

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>two captains and twenty two other guys. They're like, I

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>find that hard to believe, But I want to ask

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>you because again, you can you know the NBA player

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>mentality far better than I ever will. If you were

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<v Speaker 1>picked last or in the close to last ballpark in

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>front of everybody, is that harder to stomach than an

0:31:55.880 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>outsider like me would believe? Yes, there's no doubt about it.

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Because put it this way Stein, if we were in

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<v Speaker 1>a gym and it was nobody there, no cameras there,

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it was just those people there and a couple of

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>other people their boys, whatever, and they had to pick,

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and somebody who was picked last, it would feel weird.

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>It would feel awkward. Then with the whole world watching

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and you're the last pick, you're immediately you do one

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>or two things. There's knowing between you immediately say or whatever,

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're embarrassed and you kind of go that way

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and shot away from like man, everybody watched it, Or

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you say I'm about to kick some you know what

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>on this TV in front of everybody because you're not

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>how dare you picked me? Last, like you have the

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>inner competitor in you. It's like, no, no, I'm about

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to steal the show, and you come right out as

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>soon as you get in the game whenever that is,

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and you're going at everybody. So if they were so,

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>if we did it the way media people like me

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.479
<v Speaker 1>want to do it, two captains and twenty you guys,

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>it would legit be disrespectful for the last two guys picked.

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Don you know what? It would almost make it looked

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>like those competitive All Star games we yearned for the

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight game when it was Jordan Kobe, the games

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>where iverson those guys went at Kobe and those guys

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>like it would be that competitive fire right from the start.

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>That would be I hope his fingers crosses like that,

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>because that's what we all want to see. That, yeah,

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>because it's just to me, it's like if you're the

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<v Speaker 1>last pick but in the game with the twenty four

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>best players in the world, Like, is that really a

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>slap in the face. But I guess what you're saying

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>is it is that's and that's what I always that's

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>what I always worried about them going to this picking

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>selection because with social media, you know players and not

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>just players, but everybody's sensitive to social media. Now, so

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you being that last person pick and and the camera

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>possibly zooming in to that person's facial expressions when they

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>realize that they're going to be the last guy selected.

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's good TV. But at the same time, like,

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>these are all All Stars. And my concern was, I

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>don't think even the twenty fourth All Stars should feel

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>bad about being it, or he's an All Star, but

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>in this selection standpoint, it puts you in tears, and

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>so that was my concern. You're talking logically, you're right,

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>big picture, you're an All Star, but not one of

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:16.399
<v Speaker 1>those All Stars are walking around before the selection saying

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty fourth All Star. Just like when the guys

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>are replacement an All Star, he's when he comes home

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>after that weekend, he's not saying, yeah, I was there

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>playing man, I'm an All Star. So they're gonna stick

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>out their chest and that prize is gonna kick in.

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the big picture, you're all an All Star?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you want the twenty four best players in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now, this is how this guy feels about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I always say you're as good or bad

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>as your peers sneaky or how they view you. So

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>if they view you like that, you better come with

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<v Speaker 1>that fire. And I think it can give the All

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Star Game of Joel right from the start. Yeah. See

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<v Speaker 1>that's why again we don't know the exact I mean

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you guys do because you guys, you guys get

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>access to the TNT script. It's just like you said,

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>just like that, just like a true pickup game with

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>reversible jerseys and all twenty four guys are out there

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>would be and just incredible. But something tells me, in

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>my gut, we're not like we're gonna have the two

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<v Speaker 1>captains on the court with Ernie or whatever. But something

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 1>tells me it's not gonna be. It's not gonna be.

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna be a replicating, replicating a playground scene.

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I wish it was. I think that would bring more

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>people in it, like you need that. Like everything nowadays

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 1>is too protected. People guys are checking their brand, they're

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>protecting this or protecting that. Like that's what Nathan All

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Star Game what it was because it was the best

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>players in the world playing at the highest level, and

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 1>that's when they got a chance to separate themselves. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really the best. That's what David Stern, remember his

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>speech when you give them VP to Kobe or Jordan

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>or whoever it is, and amongst the star you were

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the star stars, like you want to separate yourself amongst

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>the best. I hope I'm wrong, but let's see. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. You got. Look, you guys will get

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the TNT script before I will, so you'll know. But

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I am. I will be watching from a far Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 1>I really am really looking forward to that, Jamal. Before

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 1>you go here, man, I got my neighbor here, Sal

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 1>and his wife and Hellica and their kids here. Man.

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm hey, So they they're listening. So I so if

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>my audio is a little bit messed up because I

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>took my earphones out real quick, Jamal, keep it real,

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>keep it one hundred, one hundred. When we first met,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was my first year of covering the league

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>two thousand, eleven twelve, and they were saying I was

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 1>washed in Portland. Yeah, they didn't say you were washing Portland.

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 1>They said you wouldn't you wouldn't you go be out

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the league soon? And you played another almost another decade

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 1>after that, right, what was your impression of rookie Chris Hanes.

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>My impression of rookie Chris Hanes was he was a

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.720
<v Speaker 1>rookie in some ways. The clothes. I'll never forget the clothes,

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 1>because the clothes worked nice, but it was almost like

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 1>you were just reaching quota, like you just had to

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>have it on to play. You really want to do that,

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you really want to do this. I can see it.

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Look in your eyes. You still have the fresh haircut.

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>But the clothes looked like me. You and Stein could

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>have fitted them because they were so big, but it

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>was so genuine. And I said, there's something about that guy.

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>He's he's gonna have the future. I didn't know, being honest,

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know you were gonna do all this and

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>do all these wonderful things. But I knew you would

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>be around because the look in your eye when you

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>were you were humble and you were hungry, and that's

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a really good combination for somebody who's trying to chase anything. Hey,

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I always say it in in our circles, in sports

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>writer circles, I don't know many sports writers. This is

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>my thirtieth season cover in the NBA. I haven't heard

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>many stories of where Chris started and where he got

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>that are better than the Chris Hayes journey. So even

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>if even if his gear was a little off, still

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>an absolute legend. But he wanted it, he wanted he

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 1>really wanted everything he has. Now. I'm not even sure

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you saw all this for yourself in the last decade,

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 1>but you really wanted to be great at this and

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I always respected that. Jamal Man, you know you're my

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>ace man. You you was a vet when I was.

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 1>When I was a rook man, you were teaching me,

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 1>so I'm sure you're my vet. That's one last thing,

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>one last thing before you let to go. Why did

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you give up the BlackBerry? I'm still using one. Why

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>did you just decide you couldn't do it anymore? See

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>before I answered that, I'm surprised you guys, especially you Stein,

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>being in Dallas. I said something that have people in

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 1>an uproar, and I'm surprised you didn't ask me about it.

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:39.399
<v Speaker 1>But I gave it up because Stein, Actually I get

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I get, I get up in the morning and my

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.760
<v Speaker 1>my iPhone is like a spaceship. If you hype an iPad,

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.399
<v Speaker 1>you have to have an iPhone. It's the same thing.

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 1>You could do everything in your hand. I gave it

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 1>up because I went to T and T and I

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>had to get Instagram and all those things, and I

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:57.879
<v Speaker 1>couldn't do it on a BlackBerry. But I have an

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 1>iPhone too, Like I'm doing this pod my iPhone, but

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>my BlackBerry will never leap, like I will die with

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it in my hand. There's a very decent chance you

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Obama and Derek I literally have I literally eighteen eighteen

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Derek bro Hey, stop, don't you know Jamal Crawford and

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Derrick Rose that is the all BlackBerry backcourt. Sure, And

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Jamal brought up that thing what he said that when

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Viray's talking about Dallas, he's talking about when he he

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>made that remark saying James Harden is doing what Luca

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I would. Jamal, I gotta get you out of here.

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 1>But listen, I was shocked you went there. I was

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>shocked you went there because not that I disagreed with you,

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>but because now you're taking a position and you know

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 1>you you you know what I mean. Now you take

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:55.479
<v Speaker 1>a position, you know fifty percent is gonna hate you,

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 1>fifty percent is gonna love your take that ain't what

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you that ain't what you usually do. I didn't know

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 1>such a polarizing quote, and this is now. This is

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the first time I talks about an expand a little

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>bit on it, and I gotta go in a few

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 1>minutes too. But I wasn't saying that Luca's not better

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>than Hardened. It had nothing to do with Luca itself.

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Luca is unbelievable, Like I love watching him play. He's

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a generational, He's gonna be all time great. What I

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:24.839
<v Speaker 1>was saying was we praised Luca as we should. He

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 1>deserves all the praise. But what I was saying was Hardened.

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Stylistically it's a little bit different, but mentality wise, it's

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.399
<v Speaker 1>kind of the same the way they play as far

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>as he's kind of doing his thing. They're shooters all

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:41.800
<v Speaker 1>around step backs and doing like crazy numbers and crazy things.

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 1>But at the time, even though he won MVP, a

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of the masses were like, this is not sustainable,

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 1>This isn't that kind of basketball. It was kind of

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>frowned upon amongst a lot of people. So that's all

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I was saying, Like Luca's totally different as far as

0:40:57.800 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>how he plays, he's a magician, how he passes, he's

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>he's a suvve. I love watching him play. But I

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was just saying, if we if we're gonna champion Luca,

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>we could have championed Hardened a little bit more at

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>that time. It's what I was saying. So it was

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 1>no Luca, but it was just more so big enough

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Harden in that way, if if this is what it

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>was gonna come to. Even though they played a little

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>bit differently stylistically, it's still some of the same thing.

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Some similarities got you well, Jamal Man, listen, brother, I

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>really thank you for coming on again. Man. Congratulations. That's

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 1>a big honor to be appreciate, judge. And the Slam

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Dunk Contest is coming up Saturday, your first All Star weekend,

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 1>so we gotta link up, man. I gotta teacher the

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>ropes out there, brother, Yeah. Yeah, and find and listen

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:43.439
<v Speaker 1>to your poker your poker players right now. Please. They're

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>here right now, man, they're here right now to try

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>to show men hook him up taking money. Hey, you

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>do it first, so they don't do it. That's a

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>good Inva. That's my guy, Sal, that's neighbor Sal right there.

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Stop Jamal Crawford. That was this episode of This League

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<v Speaker 1>Uncut Man, Jamal, thank you for coming on brother man.

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Everybody please subscribe, Tell everybody leave a comment and check

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.439
<v Speaker 1>out our episode. This is a big one, great guest,

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Jamal doing great things on the media side. Peace to everybody,

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 1>take care of Appreciate you guys, and that I'll do

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it for us. See you next time. This League Uncut

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