1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to this league. I'm cutting in the world of 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: twenty four NBA News. Just dude, you lose. Chris Haines, 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: did go time, Mark Stein, diet show Time, Chris Haines 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: and march Stein. This liague uncutting is underway and on fire. 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: This should be a good one. Yes, indeed on fire 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: tonight with this episode we got mann Stein. We got 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: a special guest today. I mean I hit him up 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: last minute. I hit him up because he he was 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 1: just bestowed upon a great honor, a great i'll call 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: a legendary honor, and I want to get his um. 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear his thoughts on what it's 12 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: like to be in this role that he's gonna take 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: up on an All Star weekend Salt Lake City. It's 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: our guy, our guy. I look, man, this my first 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: year cover in the league. He was in the locker room, 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: the Portland Trail Blasser's locker room, so he was I 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: was a rookie. He was a van at that time, 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: and now he's a rookie in his role that he's in. 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: You're not wearing the big suits no more, though you 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: got Taylor and nobody the other then Jay Crossover himself, 21 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: Jamal Crawford, who is now a colleague of us in 22 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: the media side and the colleague of mine with TNT 23 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: Jamal Crawford, and he just congratulations, brother, you will be 24 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: a judge for the Slam Dunk Contest this coming up weekend. 25 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: Man Chris starn I couldn't believe when I was asked 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: to be a judge because I can barely dunk. I 27 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: may have ten dunks in my career. I said, y'all, 28 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: sure you want me to judges contest, but I may 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: give a fresh perspective because those guys, they can all 30 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: all the other judges can do every dunk imaginable. So 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm being awesome the stuff over since I'm excited. Well, 32 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: you are a student of the game, an unquestioned student 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: of the game, so I'm sure that's why you are 34 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: doing it. But it's funny, Chris said, legendary honor. It's 35 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: also a legendary burden. Now, I have only judged one 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: dunk contest in my life. It was a G League 37 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: dunk contest at this showcase. But you know, on your 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: last on the Tuesday night TNT show, you and Shat 39 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: kind of got into a little bit because Shack was 40 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: saying miss dunks, he automatically grades down. While I think 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: I was from the Shack school. I graded these guys 42 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: so hard and people were booing me. I was like 43 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: the most hated judge in the history. And this was only, 44 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, the G League Showcase. So all eyes are 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: gonna be on you. Are you ready for this? You 46 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: know what? It took some some arm twisting, but my son, 47 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: my twelve year old son JJ and my son Eric, 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: they were like, Dad, you gotta do this. So I said, 49 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: you're right, this is legendary. I've seen so many dunk contests, 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: from the Dominique Jordan to the Vince car in two 51 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: thousand doing the Windmills to the Elbow in the Rim, 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: to the Kobe Bryants to Jared Riders and Zach Levine 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: Eric Gordon showdown. So I've seen so many, and I'm 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: excited about being apartment for sure. I'm not I don't 55 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: know if I'd be as hard on the on the 56 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: talent as you were Stein, but I'm definitely excited. Now, Jamal, 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: let's take me through this process right now. Man. So 58 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: as we record right now, this is Wednesday night, the 59 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Slam Dunk Contest is Saturday. What is your preparation for 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: an event like this? What are you gonna be doing 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: to get yourself geared up and to prepare? And I 62 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: want to know about like, how are you going to 63 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: evaluate when it's time? Yeah, I'm I'm going back and 64 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: watch some old videos obviously, and just see things that 65 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: I may have missed, certain dumps, you know, because you 66 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: want you want originality, you want stuff that's fresh, right, 67 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: So you want to give these guys to reward them 68 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: for that. I don't want to get away all the secrets, 69 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: but it may be something that comes a little different 70 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: that I think the fans may like as far as 71 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: how the judgment's going and how things are kind of 72 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: looked at. So that should be something to look out for. 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not gonna be like Stein and Shock. 74 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: They're from the old school. I'm from the old school, 75 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: but I got a new school labor as well, So 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: I will mix the two together and hopefully as Dumbo 77 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: part comes out right. Oh look, I have serious respect 78 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: for anyone who enters the contest at this point because 79 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: it is it is a thankless job. Everybody wants it 80 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: to be as good as Aaron Gordon versus Zach Lavine 81 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: or some of the old school battles like you mentioned. 82 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: Mean at my my my freshman year in high school 83 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: was the year the NBA brought the Slam Dunk Contest 84 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: back nineteen eighty four, Larry Nance, Doctor Jay. Like at 85 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: my school, there was nothing bigger than All Stars Saturday 86 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: and the Dunk Contest. It was the number for my 87 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: group of friends. It was the number one night of 88 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: the school year. And but at this point, we've i mean, 89 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: we haven't away seen every time. I mean, it's I 90 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: I feel for these guys because they're like, we want 91 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: them to do things that are humanly impossible. Yes, they 92 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: have to jump over like they have to bring out 93 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: a mock fake uh empire state building, their space, need 94 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: to jump over that for us to be like, oh 95 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: that was nice, right, Like we've seen so much stuff 96 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's gonna be a challenge for all 97 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: of them. But I'm gonna tip my hat to him, 98 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: and hopefully you know, I'm not can't give any ideas 99 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: now I'm gonna judge, but I'm hopefully inspired him in 100 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: some ways and hopefully you know, Harold minor and Carl Blow. 101 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: You saw Carl Blows coming out, so it should be especial. 102 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: That's right now, Jamal. Also, for those who don't know, uh, 103 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: there are four participants in this year's Slam Dunk Contest 104 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: Jericho Sounds from the Knicks, Matt mcclough who just signed 105 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: with the Sixers but he was in the G League, 106 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: Trey Murphy the third New Orleans, and Kenyan Martin Junior 107 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: with Houston. Now, since these names have surface, there's been 108 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: a lot, you know, there's been some what's the word 109 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: I should use, uh, people saying that they're not interesting 110 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: in watching these guys play because it's not watching these 111 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: guys before I should say, because it's not the big names. 112 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: Have you been able to see some of these parts? Well, 113 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm to be honest with you, of 114 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: all the four guys, I saw some dunks from Trey 115 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: Murphy and of course Kei Martin he's been dunking ever 116 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: since he got in the league. But that's that's only 117 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: two I'm really familiar with as far as like knowing 118 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: what they're capable of doing. Like, have you seen enough 119 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: of these four guys to know what they're capable of 120 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: doing this. Decided, Yes, I've seen not all four. I've 121 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: seen actually I believe three of the four and I 122 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: haven't seen I'm gonna say who it is, but there's 123 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: one I haven't seen as much, and talking to some people, 124 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: he could be an early favorite. You know, so I 125 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: know you, I know what you're talking about, but go ahead, 126 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: up in his bag. So I'm excited about this because, 127 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: like Shack said yesterday, and like signing a little to 128 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: Saturday Nights everything, that's when you make your name. That's 129 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: when people who don't know much about you learn about you. 130 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: They learn your story. Maybe remember Kenny Skywalker. More people 131 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: start and Deep Brown pucked up his shoes and more 132 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: people start their story and their journey after those. Aaron 133 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: Stansbury in Indiana, we wouldn't have even have known him 134 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: as an NBA player in those days, but he was 135 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: a dunk contest fixture. Was it the Statue of Liberty 136 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: with dunk? Did he have? He had one of those, 137 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: one of those dunks that were ye time. So he 138 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: always learned about those guys and even the guys that 139 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: don't necessarily want it. You learned when Doug West was 140 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: in it before and guys like that. So I'm excited 141 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: about it. Like I said, it's an unbelievable honor. Unbelievable 142 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: you ever judge, if you ever judged the dunk contest 143 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: at any at any level. No, Stein, I actually reft. 144 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: I think my lashing the league, I reft to practice. 145 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to kill those guys. They were complaining so much. 146 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: I said, I'm never doing as kids. Yeah, I'm in 147 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: the hot seat. I'm in the hot seat now, that's 148 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: for sure. So you you mentioned earlier, you're gonna be 149 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: a little mixture of new school old school what you're judging. 150 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: You can't come in save. You can't come in Sawve 151 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: because people know you to be in a nice guy. 152 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: I'm in guys, but when it comes to basketball or 153 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: anything related with that, I take it serious. Now I'm 154 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: not coming in, but I'm not coming in with the 155 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: iron fifty either. It's gonna be somewhere in the middle. 156 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: But it all depends. The dunk can be something like yo, 157 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: I know how difficult that is as well, so it 158 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: mail get a higher score. But my question is gonna 159 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: be if somebody misses eight dunks a lot. Nate Robertson. Yeah, 160 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: am I gonna give him that that that love on 161 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: that knife dunker. I'm gonna say, you know what, we've 162 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: seen it eight times you should have made at this point. Yeah, 163 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: those are the dunks that like, it's a fifty dunk, 164 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: but it took you five, six, seven attempts to get 165 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: to it. And then everybody knows the dunk you're trying 166 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: to execute already, you know what I mean, Like, there's 167 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: no there's nothing to Yeah, there's nothing to the imagination 168 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: at that point. So that's that's what I was like, 169 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: And that's that's what And I wish that all judges, 170 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: and I guess that's the unique thing about it. I 171 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: wish all judges could be on the same page and 172 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: judge that way. Like if you if all you guys say, okay, 173 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: we're going to duck points for missing or four ducks 174 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: in the road before before you start exactly, you know, 175 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: everybody be on the same page. But I don't think 176 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like that. But yeah, and then Jamal, 177 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: are you going so you just knowing? I know you 178 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: don't know everything right now, but some of these dunks, 179 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: you really have to look at the replay before you, Yeah, 180 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: to see everything they did right, Yeah, and I man 181 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: missed something, so you're absolutely right. I'm gonna look at 182 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: the replay. But I'm telling you I'm gonna be I'm 183 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: gonna be firm but fair. I'na be firm over Shack 184 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: slash Steine. I feel like Stein's leading towards Shack on it. Yeah, 185 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, I don't. It's not often that 186 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: I agree with the big man, but on this one, Like, 187 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: to me, if you the minute you miss one dunk, 188 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: like you've lost me. And it's pretty ironic for someone 189 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: five nine to say that, who couldn't dunk without a ladder? 190 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm sorry, Like, if you try to dunk, 191 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: I expect you to make it right. I agree, I 192 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: agree so them all. There's again, there's been a lot 193 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: of pushback on the dunk contest, people saying, man, maybe 194 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: they should go through a hiatus because the big players, 195 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: the big stars, aren't participating. And these are guys that 196 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: most you know, most NBA fans probably wouldn't know about. 197 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: What's your taking? When did you start seeing the trend? 198 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: Because you were playing, when you saw the trend of 199 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: stars participating to non stars participate, and do you think 200 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: the dunk contest can be rejuvenated. I think for these 201 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: guys and everybody coming afterwards. I feel like this is 202 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: opportunity because people are already going into it, like Yellow 203 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: Dunk Contest. It is missing some stars, it's missing a 204 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: little bit of that flavor. This is an opportunity to 205 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: bring it back. I felt like it was heading that way, 206 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: and then you had guys like Zach Lavin and Eric 207 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: Gordon have that classic showdown where people are interested in 208 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: the dunk contests again. You know, the opportunity for these guys. 209 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at it going into it positively, Like 210 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: you know what, you guys have an opportunity to bring 211 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: this back because it's kind of been frowned upon a 212 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: little bit for a while as soon as the stars 213 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: stopped being in Like imagine Lebron and Kobe and these 214 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: guys at their peak, the peak of their power is 215 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: getting these dunk contests, and that that right there alone 216 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: brings a whole nother fan base. It kind of brings 217 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: the world to watch it. So you know, we don't 218 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: have that right now at the moment, so we have 219 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: to do it. Collectively. I mean, you understand the player 220 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: mentality much better than we ever will, so you know, 221 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: just give me your honest take here. I always thought 222 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: there are so many sponsors in this league. If somebody 223 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: put a real a million dollars winner, take off to 224 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: whatever the number is. But just if somebody put a 225 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: crazy number for the dunk contest, would not work. Maybe 226 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: not for Lebron, but wouldn't wouldn't not get stars to 227 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: do it if it was just a seven figure prize. 228 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: I totally agree. But now the way the money's going, 229 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know. If a million will say ten million, 230 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: ten million dollars, everybody out there. I mean, you'll have 231 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: everybody out there at that point. If you go five 232 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: ten million dollars for dunk contests, you have guys who 233 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: ain't dunk in years coming out of retirement and try 234 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: and get that. I think that's what needs to happen. 235 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. They have to kind of 236 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: up it, and if we get sponsors in it and 237 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: then the dunk contest to be at its peak. How 238 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: many times did you participate in the three point contests? None? 239 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: I actually got invited that right, Yeah? None, I got 240 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: invited one time, and I actually got invited for the 241 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: Skills Challenge as well. But I said, if I make 242 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: an All Star game, I'll do everything. But I would 243 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: have gotten dunk contest. I can't even dunk. I had 244 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: two dunks and pulled up lane. But I wanted to go. 245 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: I want to have a reason to go, you know, 246 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: and not just go to do the other stuff. So 247 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: this is my first off ever. Are you so you've 248 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: never been to an All Star Weekend ever? I always 249 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: promised myself I would never go just a party, so 250 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: this is my first one. Wow, I didn't know that, Joe. 251 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: How is it being on the media side of the fence. 252 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you since you've kind of launched into 253 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: all this stuff. All When I hear the name Jamal Crawford, 254 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: I think of two things. He loves blackberries as much 255 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: as me. Even though I got to give him some 256 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: grief for finally giving him putting his aside, thank God, 257 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: and he On Dirk Navitsky's final home game, Jamal Crawford 258 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: sash add and threw up a fifty burger. In Dirk's 259 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: last game, man eyes on me. I had to go 260 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: out with a bang. The funny party is. I didn't 261 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: know that was gonna be in Dirk's last game. That 262 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: was it was. It was believe. I remember having Chris 263 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: come on back with us, Man, I didn't know you 264 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: thought will be You thought it would be one persons 265 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: last game. Both be all hey, I said, were all 266 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: here for burp? They said, oh, we hed for dirt 267 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: in you But no, it was unbelievable. I had ball boys, 268 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: don't get the cameras in my phone out the locker room. 269 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: I just wanted to to take that in because the 270 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: city that day was so electric. It was like they 271 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: knew and they wanted to thank him, And it was 272 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: like even waking up for shoot around, the city was electric. 273 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. And to have that kind of 274 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: game and have Dirk win, I would have no other 275 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: way with him winning that particular game, but having that 276 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: kind of imprint in the game and him mentioning me 277 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: in the speech, and he gave me a jersey that night, 278 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: like it was the perfect send off for both of us. 279 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: What did he say to you after? Do you remember 280 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: he said on the mic? He said, yeah, Jamal trying 281 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: to steal my shoulder night like he tried to steal 282 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: my should to night and I kind of and the 283 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: fans star booing. I kind of grabbed a towel and 284 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: covering my face and laugh. It was all fun. It 285 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: was it was really cool. And on the jersey put 286 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: to Jay Smooth, which is really cool. So he's he's 287 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: unbelievable guy. He doesn't get talked about enough for being 288 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: as great as he was as a player. So it's okay, though, 289 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: if we call you a media member, now you're good 290 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: with that? Uh media member? Forever slash forever Hooper. I 291 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: think I'm so I'm wearing between, but I'm to ask 292 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: you a question. I'm gonna joining it. I love talking 293 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: the game. I was doing this anyway. It's amazing that 294 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: I have this kind of platform now because I was 295 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: just the same thing I've been doing forever. I feel 296 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: like I can talk the game with anybody, and now 297 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: that I'm coaching kids, I find different ways to communicate it. 298 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: So I think everybody can kind of understand where I'm 299 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: coming from and kind of get a point across. And 300 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: they're searing me for the first time. I didn't talk 301 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: so much when I was playing. I try to let 302 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: my players are talking and go home. But now you know, 303 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm talking a lot and I'm enjoying it. A lot 304 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: of people don't understand. For those that don't know Jamal Crawford, 305 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: you can catch them on a Tuesday night NBA games 306 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: on Inside the NBA with TNT crew if Adam Left, Coo, Chemist, 307 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Parker Shot and Jamal Jamal. So tell me about the 308 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: chemistry you guys are forming, because the show is getting 309 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: better and better and I can see you. You know, 310 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: we talked, you know, early, only your first couple of hits, 311 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: and you know, I was just telling you what I 312 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: what I like seeing about you, and then I think 313 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: you're bringing it to a just a whole new light. Man. 314 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: I think people obviously respect your basketball nots, but one 315 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: thing I think a lot of people didn't know was 316 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: your personality. Like you had a personality. So can you 317 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: just tell me about like how you've adjusted with that 318 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: crew and what you guys are ultimately trying to do. Honestly, 319 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: that was the biggest adjustment because, like you said that 320 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: that particular show, it's basketball, but you want to laugh 321 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: too while you're watching it, right, That's what we all watched, 322 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: Chuck and Ernie and Shack and and Kenny. So I'm like, okay. 323 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: The first show, I was like, okay, I'm a little 324 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: too stiff, like just talk like you're at home, like 325 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: and I call it mixtape mall. That's my podcast, mall. 326 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: And I'm just I did fat to make that adjustment. 327 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: It was like, oh, okay, Like we know the basketball stuff, 328 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: but now we're learning about who he is because he 329 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: didn't talk much when he played. And it's just me 330 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: every day. I'm not acting or anything, but in the back, 331 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, we're playing music. Me and Shack are having 332 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: a versus. He killed me last night, by the way, 333 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: but we have first time, but we're having like a 334 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: versus and all those of the things that chemistry off 335 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: the court, so to speak, you can start to see 336 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: it on screen, and I think that's so important. Like 337 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm sitting next to Chemis Parker. Kennis Parker is like 338 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: one of the best players period, man or women. And 339 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm still such a fan of the game, Like, man, 340 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: that's Kennis Parker and left Coo, who's a star in 341 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: his own right right, and then shack Is speaks for itself. 342 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: So it took me a second to kind of get 343 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: over that part and say, yo, these are just friends, 344 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: were talking hoop, and then that chemistry starts to flow 345 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: and everything you start seeing behind the scenes is now 346 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: coming out on the screen. Oh no, real quick versus. 347 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: You guys are freestyling. Oh no, no, we're playing music 348 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: like we'll pick up okay, Like yes, it was nineties 349 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: hip hop. So we're going and we have everybody's in 350 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: the room judging, and it just it makes it a 351 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: free flowing type atmosphere. And that like now I'm like, oh, 352 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: that's your shack's my homie, you know what I mean, 353 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: that's my friend versus and that shoul Quille O'Neill so 354 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: much better with that chemistry. That's dope. So I gotta 355 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: ask you a Tuesday night, there was an epic moment. 356 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: What was the studio reaction when this happened? Kauai? You 357 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: got the West the conference being so statned and a 358 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: win can get you up in the standings dramatically, So 359 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: why is it so important to get on a good 360 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: rhythm these next couple of weeks? Like you said, the 361 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: West records are so close together, so you know, any 362 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: win matters, and we just gotta keep getting better ourselves. Though, Kawi, 363 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate your excitement. Man, thank you. Back to you guys. 364 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: We knew Chris had that TNT blood because it was 365 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: so dead painted, so funny. Everybody started cracking up laughing, 366 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: and it was funny because Left was like, man, Chris 367 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: is such a pro because getting quire to be excited 368 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: about anything, it's something in itself. So it was really 369 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: good and it came off really good. We all start 370 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: laughing for sure. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know 371 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: anything about that. No, that was Kauai. That's a tough 372 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: interview because his answers were so short. Yeah, you gotta 373 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: have that next question, like right, but yeah, but Chris, 374 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: Chris is taking pictures with cool I mean, he's interview 375 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: with Kawhi. He's taking pictures with Kelly Rowland talking about 376 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: I know what y'all did on Valentine's Day. That's right, 377 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: that's right, right, Don't don't disrespect ball, don't disrespect because 378 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: I saw I waited. I let the whole dolls that 379 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: Time's Day play out. I saw everybody posting pictures of 380 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: the couples their relationship. I let it play out. I 381 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: had that Kelly Roland already in the in the bad 382 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: and I wanna wait till the next morning him with that, Yeah, 383 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: you knew everybody's putting all their best stuff out of 384 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: that day. You said, yeah, I'm gonna have my Thanksgiving 385 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: food the next day while y'all well. I was so 386 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: excited when Chris told me we were gonna have you 387 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: on because actually Tuesday night. And this is the highest 388 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: compliment that you can pay to an analyst. And when 389 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: a writer does it, like when a writer writes something 390 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: that I would say, Man, I wish I wrote that. 391 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: That's like the highest compliment you can pay to a writer. 392 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: And now I'm gonna give it to you as an analyst. 393 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: You said health is the best defense that the Phoenix 394 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: Suns will see for the rest of the season. I 395 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: was like, damn, I wish I said that on TV. 396 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: That's good. So are you You are that confident that 397 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: the new Phoenix Suns with Durant joining Devin Book or 398 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: Chris Paul DeAndre Aiden, You're that confident that health is 399 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: the only thing that can stop these guys. I need 400 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. First off, you're a legend 401 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: and everybody in the business knows it. But to be 402 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: honest with you. So that's the ultimate compliment. But to 403 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: be honest with you, that's what I believe with them, Like, 404 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: they won't need the transition time. A lot of teams 405 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: will like, yeah, these next twenty games that win games 406 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: or lose games, I'll figure it out. But with Durant 407 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: already being a finals MVP two times over, with Chris 408 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: and Devin already going to the finals, DeAndre aiden as well, 409 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: they'll figure it out. In any discrepancies, arguments, things they'll have. 410 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: I know all three of them, I played with two 411 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: of the three. Their basketball knowledge, how much they love 412 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: the game, will win out, so the argument will never 413 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: be a bad even don't see eye to eye, their 414 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: love for the game, their love for the sport, and 415 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: their love for winning will actually went out no matter 416 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: what they come across. So I think health is the 417 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: only real defense against those guys. Think about it in 418 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: the playoffs especially, I mean, obviously people frown up on 419 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: the mid range. You have three mid range specialists like 420 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: that are going to be getting those shots over and 421 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: over and over again, and they make them at the 422 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: highest level. Like the playoffs, opposite teams know they're played. 423 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: The opposing teams better. It's played just as bell as 424 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: they do. Right. So now you have three guys who 425 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: can create a mismatch, create a look. And like I 426 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: said last night, yeah they lost some defense. That's that's obvious, 427 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: but it won't be about them stopping guys all game. 428 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: Can you get timely stops? Can you go the next 429 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: five minutes getting you know, six seven, eight straight stops 430 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: because you'll you'll do what you need to do on offense. 431 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: And that's why I think health's their only opponents. No, 432 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with you right there. I think 433 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: health right, if they're healthy, to me, they're a team 434 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: to be And I told you a mind that um 435 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: last night when I run across from at the Lakers 436 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: Clippers game last night, that I did and he disagreed, 437 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: and you know, respectfully. So he believes that. Yeah, he 438 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: believes it should go through them when they're healthy because 439 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: they know their selves and you know, and more power 440 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: to them. But I just think Phoenix is not done. 441 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: I think they're going to keep continue to add something. 442 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: Jamal Stein, I gotta tell you, I gotta I gotta 443 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: story to tell you real quick. Something that happened to 444 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: me as it pertains the All Star Weekend. I kind 445 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: of told Stein over the phone. I didn't tell them 446 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: what happened, but I told him I'm gonna reveal it 447 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: on this pod. So you guys let me know what 448 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: you think. So this is your first All Star Weekend, Jamal, 449 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: hopefully it won't be your last. But every All Star Weekend, 450 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: our brother Kenny Smith has a party. Usually it's a 451 00:22:53,960 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: Friday night party. Always have big rap artists come through perform. 452 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: He's given away, you know, expensive gifts like the who's 453 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: who are people? They come to this event? It's are 454 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: you putting pressure on me? Disclaimer? Here are you? You 455 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: gotta come? You gotta come, I gotta come. I appreciate 456 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: you get something away, but go ahead. I'm sorry. Okay, 457 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: So whatever, So I didn't you know, that's what I 458 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: look forward to, but I didn't get it. Invite, I 459 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: didn't get anything innat email, I didn't get a phone called, nothing. 460 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: So yesterday I text Kenny because I said, hey, Kenny, 461 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: are you having your your event this time around? And 462 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: then he immediately calls me back. So he calls me. 463 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: I pick up. He said, hey, man, Hey, he said, hell, yeah, 464 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm having Hey I'm having my event. Man, we're back 465 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: back when we back, we're doing it. And he was like, um, 466 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: so you didn't get the memo, you didn't get them 467 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: the email or anything. Nobody reached out to you. I'm like, nah, Knny, 468 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: nobody reached out. He's like, okay, well somebody should have 469 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: reached out. He said, because this year we're incorporating a 470 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: poker tournament. And I'm like okay. He was like, an 471 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: it's a celebrity poker tournament and I want you in it. 472 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: I was like what I'm talking like what you won't 473 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: be And I'm thinking this in my head, like yeah, 474 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They want me in it. 475 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm like okay. He started throwing out names, say Adam 476 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: Sandler is gonna be in there. He named some other 477 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: people I've forgotten. I was like, damn. I was like, 478 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, Kenny, if you need me, man, I'm there. 479 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: If you need me, I'm there. And so he's like, 480 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: all right, cool, cool, call my boy. He gave me 481 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: his boys never called my boy. Tell me in You're good, 482 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: all right. The problem is I've never played poker before 483 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: in my life. I have I have no clue for 484 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. So I've arranged when I get when 485 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm done with this pod, my neighbors are coming over 486 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: and they're gonna get me a quick tutorial poker. We 487 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: got an hour slot tonight. I'm getting pizza and wings 488 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: and they're gonna try to teach me how. Jamal Stein, 489 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't say I couldn't say no. He asked me 490 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: to come be a part of his celebrity poker tournament. 491 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: He threw big games out there. You asked it and 492 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: didn't know what you were asking. I was maybe maybe 493 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: he knew you, maybe he knew you never played. And 494 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: they just want to take all your money. They want 495 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: to Now you got all that TNT money, they want 496 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: to take it. Listen, this is the thing. I just 497 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: want to know how to move in the game. I 498 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: don't I don't need to be the best, but I 499 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: don't want to be putting the card down. That's that 500 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: that can't be playing, you know what I'm saying. So 501 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: I just want to know the basics right now. Don't 502 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: don't forget to practice your poker face too, Like that's 503 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. So so wait a second, though, 504 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: in all your trips to when you go to Vegas? 505 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: Do you play anything black anything every year? The only 506 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: thing closest to Gambler that I've ever participated in would 507 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: probably blackjacks. I don't do cars. I don't never have. 508 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: Don't do dice either. I lost the car shooting dice. 509 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 1: What would Michael Jordan don't do that either. Maybe you can, 510 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: just maybe you could just sneak in and kind of 511 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: fade to the background, and maybe you can. You can, 512 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: because I gotta be honest. I don't learning poker in 513 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: one hour that I'm not the Yeah, I don't know. 514 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: Can I at least learn the basics because I just 515 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: want to blend in? I don't. I don't. I don't 516 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: want to dominate. That's not gonna happen. Can I just 517 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: blend in and act like I know what I'm doing 518 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: that hour? That hour you better be locked in, don't 519 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: don't wings until that that that hour's over with, and 520 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: then see if you can go thirty extra man, just 521 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: to test yourself, because just blend, don't embarrass yourself, and 522 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: don't lose all your I see with this with this 523 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: pod being released before the poker tournament, now, I'm pretty 524 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: sure everybody's gonna be asking to set my table. Yeah, 525 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: fresh meat. Why I wouldn't there? Yeah, well listen if 526 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: i'm if I'm eliminated early, hey, I don't lose money. 527 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: And Katy didn't getting the details. He didn't get the details. 528 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: He didn't tell me if it's a buy in or 529 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: how muddy take or maybe maybe on Twitter you'll get 530 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: some poker coaches who actually want to help you even 531 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: more so you can prep even more before you do it. 532 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: I'll take it off, huh. Never. Never. I'm not a 533 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: card I'm not a brilliant card guy. Man. I threw 534 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: some dominoes through some bones. You know, no, none of that, 535 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: none of that, none of that. It's all a familiar territory. Man. 536 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: But I'm going tomorrow. He picked me to be a 537 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: part of the celebrity poker tournament. Well you found him. 538 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 1: And then he just said, okay, you're looking for me. 539 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: You found me. Yeah, get that money. You better be careful. 540 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: Just expect just expensive. Whatever you lose, just expensive. I'my 541 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: dinner dinner with dinner with Kenny. I'm try Yes, one 542 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: last thing, one last thing I want to tell you 543 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: real quick. I'm at the Lakers. Um, excuse me, Clippers 544 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: Warriors game last night, and Q Tips is approaching me. 545 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: Never met Q tip in my life, but you know, 546 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: he's a genius hip hop genius man. What man, He's 547 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: just hip hop genius man whatever. And so I'm looking 548 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: forward because he's approaching me. So he comes over, he 549 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 1: approaches me, and I stopped him, and he asked he's 550 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: with a crew. He's like, somebody's behind him, but I 551 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: don't really know who that is, but he's with a crew, 552 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: and so I stop him and we're talking, Hey, man, 553 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: much love, blah blah blah. He's showing me love back whatever. 554 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: And so there's a guy that's waiting right behind him, 555 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: and I'm not even paying him no mind. I'm just like, 556 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'm stopping q tip and the guys kind 557 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: of waiting for me to stop with q tips so 558 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: they can continue on their path. But this is qute Tip. 559 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm chopping up with q tips. And so anyway, Q 560 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: Tip Leeds, we finished our greeting. Q Tip Leeds. Reggie 561 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: Miller sees q Tip, gives him pound, talks to him, 562 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: and then the guy behind him Regie Miller, Lyell's Leonardo Leonardo. 563 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, Leonardo, he had a mask on, he took 564 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: his mask off. It was Leonardo DiCaprio. I'm like, man, 565 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: I understood Leonardo up. But you know, I'm like, disrespectful. M. 566 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: I disrespectful, m. I. If this is the kind of 567 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: luck you have, don't go to that poker game to you. 568 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: Miss Leonardo DiCaprio. I missed Leonardo DiCaprio, man right there, 569 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: right there. So after I felt like, damn, I feel man. 570 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: I just felt like a straight man. What did missus 571 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: Haynes stay when you told her that story? Well, she wasn't. 572 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: She didn't have a problem with that. She had a 573 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: problem with the Kelly Roland I posted in Kelly Roland. Yeah, 574 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: that's the problem. That was a problem. Chris is walking 575 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: around this dude rag too tighty sales, brainy sale. That's crazy. 576 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: That was the problems. Yea. She was like, I don't 577 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: care about the picture, but you're putting out there like 578 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: that's really your valetipe. And so I'm like, hey, you 579 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: gotta give me a pass on That one made me. 580 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: Y'all was still good because I didn't know what Chris 581 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: was doing with that one. It's something people. You gotta 582 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: get pass. Come on, let me live by fantasy out. 583 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: Come on. Now, that's Kelly Roland. It's better than my wife. 584 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: She was on TNT last night taking shots at my phone. 585 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: Hoster we saw saw everywhere said that gold. Yeah. I 586 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. That was gold. You got lit up? 587 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: You got lit up? I did. I said, you're lucky. 588 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: You already got about the gift because I swear it's 589 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: been candy and flowers. It wouldn't have been no, but everybody. 590 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: Everybody got lit up, man, everybody, everybody. I was all right, 591 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: y'all doing a good job. Jamal, I'm proud of you. Man. 592 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta throw one more player mentality question 593 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: at him, because because I think this is a huge 594 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: part of All Star weekend, I think I will not 595 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: be there. But what I am looking forward to, probably 596 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: more than anything, is the captain's pick. Because from the 597 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: minute we had captains in the All Star Game, I 598 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: was screaming from the rooftops, please let the captains just 599 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: pick these guys at the game. Let's make it like 600 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: a real pickup game. Now, I don't know that it's 601 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: gonna be that good. We still don't know all the details. 602 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: We still don't know if is it really gonna be 603 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: two captains and twenty two other guys. They're like, I 604 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: find that hard to believe, But I want to ask 605 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: you because again, you can you know the NBA player 606 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: mentality far better than I ever will. If you were 607 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: picked last or in the close to last ballpark in 608 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: front of everybody, is that harder to stomach than an 609 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: outsider like me would believe? Yes, there's no doubt about it. 610 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: Because put it this way Stein, if we were in 611 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: a gym and it was nobody there, no cameras there, 612 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: it was just those people there and a couple of 613 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: other people their boys, whatever, and they had to pick, 614 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: and somebody who was picked last, it would feel weird. 615 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: It would feel awkward. Then with the whole world watching 616 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: and you're the last pick, you're immediately you do one 617 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: or two things. There's knowing between you immediately say or whatever, 618 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: and you're embarrassed and you kind of go that way 619 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: and shot away from like man, everybody watched it, Or 620 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: you say I'm about to kick some you know what 621 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: on this TV in front of everybody because you're not 622 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: how dare you picked me? Last, like you have the 623 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: inner competitor in you. It's like, no, no, I'm about 624 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: to steal the show, and you come right out as 625 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: soon as you get in the game whenever that is, 626 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: and you're going at everybody. So if they were so, 627 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: if we did it the way media people like me 628 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,479 Speaker 1: want to do it, two captains and twenty you guys, 629 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: it would legit be disrespectful for the last two guys picked. 630 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: Don you know what? It would almost make it looked 631 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: like those competitive All Star games we yearned for the 632 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: ninety eight game when it was Jordan Kobe, the games 633 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: where iverson those guys went at Kobe and those guys 634 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: like it would be that competitive fire right from the start. 635 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: That would be I hope his fingers crosses like that, 636 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: because that's what we all want to see. That, yeah, 637 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: because it's just to me, it's like if you're the 638 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: last pick but in the game with the twenty four 639 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: best players in the world, Like, is that really a 640 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: slap in the face. But I guess what you're saying 641 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: is it is that's and that's what I always that's 642 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: what I always worried about them going to this picking 643 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: selection because with social media, you know players and not 644 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: just players, but everybody's sensitive to social media. Now, so 645 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: you being that last person pick and and the camera 646 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: possibly zooming in to that person's facial expressions when they 647 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: realize that they're going to be the last guy selected. 648 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: It's like it's good TV. But at the same time, like, 649 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: these are all All Stars. And my concern was, I 650 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: don't think even the twenty fourth All Stars should feel 651 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: bad about being it, or he's an All Star, but 652 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: in this selection standpoint, it puts you in tears, and 653 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: so that was my concern. You're talking logically, you're right, 654 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: big picture, you're an All Star, but not one of 655 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: those All Stars are walking around before the selection saying 656 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: I'm twenty fourth All Star. Just like when the guys 657 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: are replacement an All Star, he's when he comes home 658 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: after that weekend, he's not saying, yeah, I was there 659 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: playing man, I'm an All Star. So they're gonna stick 660 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: out their chest and that prize is gonna kick in. 661 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, the big picture, you're all an All Star? 662 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: Are you want the twenty four best players in the world. 663 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,479 Speaker 1: But right now, this is how this guy feels about 664 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, I always say you're as good or bad 665 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: as your peers sneaky or how they view you. So 666 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: if they view you like that, you better come with 667 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: that fire. And I think it can give the All 668 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: Star Game of Joel right from the start. Yeah. See 669 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: that's why again we don't know the exact I mean 670 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: maybe you guys do because you guys, you guys get 671 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: access to the TNT script. It's just like you said, 672 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: just like that, just like a true pickup game with 673 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: reversible jerseys and all twenty four guys are out there 674 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: would be and just incredible. But something tells me, in 675 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: my gut, we're not like we're gonna have the two 676 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: captains on the court with Ernie or whatever. But something 677 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: tells me it's not gonna be. It's not gonna be. 678 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be a replicating, replicating a playground scene. 679 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: I wish it was. I think that would bring more 680 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: people in it, like you need that. Like everything nowadays 681 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: is too protected. People guys are checking their brand, they're 682 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: protecting this or protecting that. Like that's what Nathan All 683 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: Star Game what it was because it was the best 684 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: players in the world playing at the highest level, and 685 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: that's when they got a chance to separate themselves. So 686 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm really the best. That's what David Stern, remember his 687 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: speech when you give them VP to Kobe or Jordan 688 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: or whoever it is, and amongst the star you were 689 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: the star stars, like you want to separate yourself amongst 690 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: the best. I hope I'm wrong, but let's see. Let's 691 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: see what happens. You got. Look, you guys will get 692 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: the TNT script before I will, so you'll know. But 693 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: I am. I will be watching from a far Sunday night. 694 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: I really am really looking forward to that, Jamal. Before 695 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: you go here, man, I got my neighbor here, Sal 696 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: and his wife and Hellica and their kids here. Man. 697 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm hey, So they they're listening. So I so if 698 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: my audio is a little bit messed up because I 699 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: took my earphones out real quick, Jamal, keep it real, 700 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: keep it one hundred, one hundred. When we first met, 701 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: so it was my first year of covering the league 702 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: two thousand, eleven twelve, and they were saying I was 703 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: washed in Portland. Yeah, they didn't say you were washing Portland. 704 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: They said you wouldn't you wouldn't you go be out 705 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: the league soon? And you played another almost another decade 706 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: after that, right, what was your impression of rookie Chris Hanes. 707 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: My impression of rookie Chris Hanes was he was a 708 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: rookie in some ways. The clothes. I'll never forget the clothes, 709 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: because the clothes worked nice, but it was almost like 710 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: you were just reaching quota, like you just had to 711 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: have it on to play. You really want to do that, 712 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: you really want to do this. I can see it. 713 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: Look in your eyes. You still have the fresh haircut. 714 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: But the clothes looked like me. You and Stein could 715 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: have fitted them because they were so big, but it 716 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: was so genuine. And I said, there's something about that guy. 717 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: He's he's gonna have the future. I didn't know, being honest, 718 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were gonna do all this and 719 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: do all these wonderful things. But I knew you would 720 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: be around because the look in your eye when you 721 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: were you were humble and you were hungry, and that's 722 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: a really good combination for somebody who's trying to chase anything. Hey, 723 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: I always say it in in our circles, in sports 724 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: writer circles, I don't know many sports writers. This is 725 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: my thirtieth season cover in the NBA. I haven't heard 726 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: many stories of where Chris started and where he got 727 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: that are better than the Chris Hayes journey. So even 728 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: if even if his gear was a little off, still 729 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: an absolute legend. But he wanted it, he wanted he 730 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: really wanted everything he has. Now. I'm not even sure 731 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: you saw all this for yourself in the last decade, 732 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: but you really wanted to be great at this and 733 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: I always respected that. Jamal Man, you know you're my 734 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: ace man. You you was a vet when I was. 735 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: When I was a rook man, you were teaching me, 736 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: so I'm sure you're my vet. That's one last thing, 737 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: one last thing before you let to go. Why did 738 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: you give up the BlackBerry? I'm still using one. Why 739 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: did you just decide you couldn't do it anymore? See 740 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: before I answered that, I'm surprised you guys, especially you Stein, 741 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: being in Dallas. I said something that have people in 742 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: an uproar, and I'm surprised you didn't ask me about it. 743 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 1: But I gave it up because Stein, Actually I get 744 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: I get, I get up in the morning and my 745 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 1: my iPhone is like a spaceship. If you hype an iPad, 746 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 1: you have to have an iPhone. It's the same thing. 747 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: You could do everything in your hand. I gave it 748 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: up because I went to T and T and I 749 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: had to get Instagram and all those things, and I 750 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 1: couldn't do it on a BlackBerry. But I have an 751 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: iPhone too, Like I'm doing this pod my iPhone, but 752 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: my BlackBerry will never leap, like I will die with 753 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: it in my hand. There's a very decent chance you 754 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: Obama and Derek I literally have I literally eighteen eighteen 755 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: Derek bro Hey, stop, don't you know Jamal Crawford and 756 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: Derrick Rose that is the all BlackBerry backcourt. Sure, And 757 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: Jamal brought up that thing what he said that when 758 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: Viray's talking about Dallas, he's talking about when he he 759 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: made that remark saying James Harden is doing what Luca 760 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: I would. Jamal, I gotta get you out of here. 761 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: But listen, I was shocked you went there. I was 762 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: shocked you went there because not that I disagreed with you, 763 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: but because now you're taking a position and you know 764 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: you you you know what I mean. Now you take 765 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,479 Speaker 1: a position, you know fifty percent is gonna hate you, 766 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: fifty percent is gonna love your take that ain't what 767 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: you that ain't what you usually do. I didn't know 768 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: such a polarizing quote, and this is now. This is 769 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: the first time I talks about an expand a little 770 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: bit on it, and I gotta go in a few 771 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: minutes too. But I wasn't saying that Luca's not better 772 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: than Hardened. It had nothing to do with Luca itself. 773 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: Luca is unbelievable, Like I love watching him play. He's 774 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: a generational, He's gonna be all time great. What I 775 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 1: was saying was we praised Luca as we should. He 776 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: deserves all the praise. But what I was saying was Hardened. 777 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: Stylistically it's a little bit different, but mentality wise, it's 778 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: kind of the same the way they play as far 779 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: as he's kind of doing his thing. They're shooters all 780 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: around step backs and doing like crazy numbers and crazy things. 781 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: But at the time, even though he won MVP, a 782 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: lot of the masses were like, this is not sustainable, 783 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: This isn't that kind of basketball. It was kind of 784 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: frowned upon amongst a lot of people. So that's all 785 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: I was saying, Like Luca's totally different as far as 786 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: how he plays, he's a magician, how he passes, he's 787 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: he's a suvve. I love watching him play. But I 788 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: was just saying, if we if we're gonna champion Luca, 789 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: we could have championed Hardened a little bit more at 790 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: that time. It's what I was saying. So it was 791 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: no Luca, but it was just more so big enough 792 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: Harden in that way, if if this is what it 793 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: was gonna come to. Even though they played a little 794 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: bit differently stylistically, it's still some of the same thing. 795 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: Some similarities got you well, Jamal Man, listen, brother, I 796 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: really thank you for coming on again. Man. Congratulations. That's 797 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: a big honor to be appreciate, judge. And the Slam 798 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: Dunk Contest is coming up Saturday, your first All Star weekend, 799 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: so we gotta link up, man. I gotta teacher the 800 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: ropes out there, brother, Yeah. Yeah, and find and listen 801 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 1: to your poker your poker players right now. Please. They're 802 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: here right now, man, they're here right now to try 803 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: to show men hook him up taking money. Hey, you 804 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: do it first, so they don't do it. That's a 805 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: good Inva. That's my guy, Sal, that's neighbor Sal right there. 806 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: Stop Jamal Crawford. That was this episode of This League 807 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: Uncut Man, Jamal, thank you for coming on brother man. 808 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: Everybody please subscribe, Tell everybody leave a comment and check 809 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,439 Speaker 1: out our episode. This is a big one, great guest, 810 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: Jamal doing great things on the media side. Peace to everybody, 811 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: take care of Appreciate you guys, and that I'll do 812 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: it for us. See you next time. This League Uncut 813 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: is and I heart Radio Production.