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Speaker 1: Rod and carried her heart.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackout Test podcast.

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Speaker 2: Find us everywhere you find podcasts. I'm your host. Rod

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Speaker 2: joined us always on my co host and we are

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Speaker 2: live on a Monday night. Okay, I took a nap,

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Speaker 2: so you got a late start. I know how tired

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Speaker 2: I was, butn't sound like me. Yeah, that is what

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Speaker 2: Karen says every time she takes a namp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you lay down and you be like okay, and

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Speaker 1: then is you know they said online and it's kind

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Speaker 1: of hilarious. They was like they do some dangers. They

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Speaker 1: lay down and don't sit in alarm cause Joe not

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Speaker 1: gonna be fifteen minutes, thirty minutes, three hours or tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: You never know.

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Speaker 4: That's true. I was tired.

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Speaker 2: I did I've been doing this upper body workout and

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Speaker 2: I did it two days in a row, and I

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Speaker 2: and then uh this today when I did it, I

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Speaker 2: I was like, I can finish it.

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Speaker 4: And I finished it.

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Speaker 2: But I think from that point on, I just was like, man,

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Speaker 2: My body was like you ready to go to sleep?

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Speaker 4: We need to recover from this.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So I had we had an early dinner.

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Speaker 2: It was like four o'clock or something because I hadn't

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Speaker 2: eaten basically most of the day, right, And then my

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Speaker 2: body was like, all right, man, so what are we

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Speaker 3: I don't mind eating old people lunch.

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Speaker 4: Four dinner, Yeah, old people dinner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know they like them early bird specials five five,

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Speaker 3: let's rip it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So oh boy.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, we're here, find us everywhere you get podcast.

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Speaker 2: The official weapon of the show is polting chair and

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Speaker 2: the unofficial sport what bullet bar?

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Speaker 4: Extreme? Extreme? Extreme? All right, do you have any banter? Okay,

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Speaker 4: here we go. Do you have any talk to me?

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Speaker 4: Do you have any Do you have any banter? Banter? Banter? Banter? Banter?

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Speaker 4: Do you have any banter?

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Speaker 3: Talk to me?

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Speaker 4: Do you have any banter? Banter? All right?

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Speaker 1: My first banter. I don't know why I do this,

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Speaker 1: and Roger corrected me several times, but my brain is like,

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Speaker 1: anytime you have any form of like an egg and

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Speaker 1: cheese on the muffins.

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Speaker 3: It's a nick muffin.

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Speaker 1: Because I went to a place and I had one

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Speaker 1: of the sausage, egg and cheese on a muffin, and

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Speaker 1: I kept saying, yeah, I want that sausage that can

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Speaker 3: I trit that ship like like fall, Like a little

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Speaker 1: You know how you use some things you say yes,

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Speaker 1: I want that McMuffin, like it's not a McMuffin. I

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Speaker 1: and it's bacon, egg and cheese or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It's a McMuffin. Now, I'm not tripping. My brain won't

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Speaker 3: get the mick out of out of it. It's like

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Speaker 3: McDonald's just own that it's a mick.

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Speaker 1: Whatever the hell out I had in my mind, and

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Speaker 1: no matter how many Tassie correct me, it was a

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Speaker 1: mixed sausage McMuffin.

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Speaker 3: I mean McMuffin, mick muffin, sausage.

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Speaker 4: A sausage McMuffin.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know what you married.

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Speaker 2: If Mark Maron doesn't use his last episode to finally

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Speaker 2: reveal WTF, I'm gonna be so upset with him. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the fuck with Mark Man?

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Speaker 3: You've been doing it for a very long time, sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Years, I think fifteen or sixteen. But anyway, he's ending it.

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Speaker 2: And I've listened to the episodes and I've never heard him.

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Speaker 4: Say what the fuck? Like, what is the fuck?

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Speaker 2: Nope, So hopefully this last episode he can just finally

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Speaker 2: like tell us that, because I don't want to end

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Speaker 2: know and then Lost and them being like, oh, it's

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Speaker 2: I wanted to know the answer to what had happened, So.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, let us know.

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Speaker 3: My next one was just my last one. Oh my tablet.

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Speaker 1: Roger has some Ricky Mordy comics and they're like not

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Speaker 1: And I was reading it and I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I will forever be tend in my heart. They went

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Speaker 1: almost two pages of ball jokes, and it was all.

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Speaker 3: About balls and the whole time.

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Speaker 1: That was the funniest shit in the world to me

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Speaker 1: I got to the end and Rick was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: talking a lot of balls, and I don't know, that

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Speaker 1: was just a last to me. I would never get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, immature jokes still work. Sometimes they work the best,

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Speaker 2: Anybody remember when Will Smith dropped a new rap album recently?

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Speaker 4: Me neither, Okay, I did not listen to that.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell y'all something, man, I know this is

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Speaker 2: gonna be blasting me to a lot of y'all because

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Speaker 2: y'all can't help y'allselves, and a lot of y'all aren't

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Speaker 2: real in my opinion. I shouldn't say real, but y'all

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Speaker 2: don't keep up with new hip hop music. Y'all just

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Speaker 2: just not my cup of tea. I'm ready to progress

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Speaker 4: They get, y'all. That's how they get, y'all.

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Speaker 2: That's why y'all listening to Andre three thousand flu album

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Speaker 2: him fucking around. That's why y'all listening to Will Smith

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Speaker 4: Like, and I'm not against old rappers like either.

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Speaker 2: Some old rappers have put out some dope ass albums

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, but y'all don't ever be talking about them,

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Speaker 2: y'all don't listen to them.

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Speaker 3: Nope.

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Speaker 2: If I've mentioned like an old rapper, that's that's doing

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Speaker 1: What el Cooj put out an album and that shit

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Speaker 1: was flames l COOJ.

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Speaker 2: The force that joint was was good, like real good,

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Speaker 2: better than it had any right being like, it's just

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Speaker 2: interesting when people decide to tap in and like, I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying there's nothing wrong with even old man rap.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Common had recently put out old Man

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Speaker 2: that's my favorite Common album.

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Speaker 1: And ain't it though? You was playing and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's my I thought about that. I was like, that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they dropped the twentieth anniversary the other day, and

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Speaker 2: it's worth going back to revisit. It's got a bunch

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Speaker 2: But but also like he you know, comment did the

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Speaker 2: taking a walk and throwing the auditorium, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, it's nothing wrong with that. I was

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Speaker 2: listening to another album the other day of.

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Speaker 4: Who was it?

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Speaker 2: I want to say it was Doodoo Buck. Yeah, doodle Bug,

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Speaker 2: who y'all guys might remember from you might remember doodle

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Speaker 2: Bug from a Diggable Planets, Okay, And He has an

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Speaker 2: album called a Galactic Love Supreme.

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Speaker 4: It's a real laid back, mature album. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like, so like, I'm not anti old rapper, is

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Speaker 2: Well you out here, like, let me get this Will

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Speaker 2: Smith a spin. Now you know that Willard is not

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Speaker 4: He's not finn to burn it all down.

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Speaker 2: And I do appreciate the collective amnesia we have because

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Speaker 2: But come on, Brody, you knew it was double wood

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Speaker 2: off of the nostalgia of old rappers, y'all is killing us.

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Speaker 1: It's some really dope ass people out here, and some

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Speaker 1: that's the shit nobody ever talks about.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading this book Black Broadway in Washington, DC. Is

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Speaker 2: really good, very informative. It's kind of like it's a

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Speaker 2: much just information information, you know, anecdotal stories and stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's not necessarily trying to tie together the strongest narratives

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Speaker 2: Many of us are experiencing something right now that I

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Speaker 2: you know, the marches did this and all that America

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Speaker 2: it is almost eerie. How basically a hundred years ago,

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Speaker 2: Like I'm at a part wherever talking about GYMP because

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Speaker 2: whether it's alike a clique, a listen, a donation, a subscription,

440
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 2: or whatever, that we are super serving a group of

441
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 2: people in the community that want to see us exist

442
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: because of how what we represent, what we how it

443
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 2: makes them feel great. Then there's this other model that

444
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 2: is selling your blackness to whiteness. And I don't mean

445
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 2: that as everybody's some type of sellout. I mean these

446
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: are just business models. You could be a righteous person,

447
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 2: but your job depends on some white people that's an executive,

448
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 2: some white people that's at a company, some white people

449
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: that are sponsors. And if those people say you are

450
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 2: no longer tenable, now you need to either figure out

451
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: a way to survive in out of the community, or

452
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: you're out of business.

453
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 4: Right right.

454
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: That's what Jim Crow did to a lot of black people,

455
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: Meaning there was an elite type of black person that

456
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: was how nobbing and moving in white spaces because that's

457
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: what that eight years of reconstruction allowed, Like, hey, you

458
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: can go be a politician, you can be a business,

459
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: you can do this. And it wasn't until the North

460
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: and the United States government abandoned black people in the

461
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: South that you get the most lynchings ever in like

462
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: eight years, Like it's just consecutive year year at the year,

463
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: just like vigilanti justice, all this stuff, like just intimidation, racism,

464
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. But it took the government going, man,

465
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: we don't see what's happening down there. Good luck, We're

466
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 2: not sending any troops. All right, Okay, So my point being,

467
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: those business models persisted this day. Those people who were

468
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: robbed of their ability to move within whiteness and to

469
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: get close to the white money and white power structures

470
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 2: and stuff, those people had by necessity to be pushed

471
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: into the community. Meaning, yes, if you owned a bank,

472
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: white people were not coming to your bank, and you

473
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: could not get a loan from white people.

474
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 4: To keep your bank afloat, you had to go serve

475
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 4: the black community.

476
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: You had to the idea of that nostalgic view of

477
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: utape of like black people where we were just building

478
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: so much power. It's kind of built on the falsehood

479
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: that everyone was with it. It was there were a

480
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: lot of people who like could not stand under black people,

481
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: But what the fuck were they gonna do.

482
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: Where where they gonna go.

483
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, like white people weren't allowing some black people to

484
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: be cool. It was like, no, even if you agree

485
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: with us one hundred percent, you could agree with white supremacy,

486
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 2: we're not respecting you or treating you as an equal

487
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: right Booker T. Washington did all that Atlanta compromise shit of, like, listen,

488
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: we need to stop making ways white people getting mad,

489
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: And Woodrow Wilson was still like and fuck him too,

490
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 2: Like he come up here and I'll still tell him

491
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: fuck him to his face basically and send his ass

492
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: back down to the South and be like, I'm not

493
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: changing the goddamn thing.

494
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 3: Right.

495
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: So it's just funny like colorism, a lot of that

496
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: comes out of this era right where darker skin black

497
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: people will consider like your outdoors people and stuff. But

498
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: it's once you get back into this community where we're

499
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: forced to be together, it's like, well, we're gonna institu

500
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: another hiarchy. Light skinn people are the white people of

501
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: black people now, like we are going to treat this

502
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: talented tenth is a very light skin talented tenth, and

503
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: we're making a decision for the rest of you negroes

504
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: obviously based on a lot of psychological shit.

505
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 4: Dealing with slavery and colorism and all that.

506
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: But it just made me think about you still see

507
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: those echoes to this day, and I think it kind

508
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 2: of you can feel it in the decisions that have

509
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: to be made right So like, creatively, financially, whatever decisions,

510
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: what's your base in the black community or with blackness.

511
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: If your move is I just need to please my

512
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: bosses at ESPN to keep my check, then it makes

513
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: sense that maybe you're shitting on Kaepernick a little bit

514
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: harder than you know somebody else would in that position,

515
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: because to you, it's like my responsibility when it ultimately

516
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: comes down to it, I don't have to please all

517
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: y'all right, you know you see you having all the

518
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: time where people pull the like listen, I don't care

519
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: what the black people saying. I'm gonna be the one

520
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: to say and like, to me, there's like a tongue

521
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: in cheek thing of it, Like it's funny sometimes and

522
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: it makes sense sometimes if you know, when we like

523
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: with our stuff, we are holding to the black community.

524
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: So like when we say those things, we either mean

525
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: it or we just are understanding, Like, hey, I know,

526
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: black people don't agree with this, but Popeyes ain't that

527
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: good or whatever, you know, whatever, But there's a type

528
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: of authoritarian like I'm telling you blacks this paternalistic like, yeah,

529
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: believe I.

530
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: Almost looking down what y'all need to be doing.

531
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 2: It's kind of your check ain't really from us in

532
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: that way. You don't need that percentage of the community

533
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: co signing what you're doing. And so when you start

534
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: moving funny, it's just like, well, they moving funny, But

535
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 2: what are.

536
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: We gonna do? Stop their YouTube deal? They're gonna get

537
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 4: that YouTube deal.

538
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: What are we gonna do stop them from being on

539
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: you know, some right wing like podcast circuit or whatever.

540
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: You can't you can't do, like you can't stop Say

541
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: Still Say Still needs to impress a handful of white

542
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: people to stay a folk.

543
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 4: She's made her decision.

544
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 2: Right, and then every single black person not liking her

545
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: is actually capital for her.

546
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 4: It's like, hey, black people don't like me, can I

547
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: get a check?

548
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: You know? So it's just weird that over one hundred

549
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: years ago, you know, Jim Crow, like this shit has

550
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: effects to this day.

551
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: Jim Crow being gone quote unquote, you.

552
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: Know, like this like we've had civil rights, and but

553
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: that business model has not changed for people. It's you

554
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: either get your money from a handful of white folks

555
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: or you get your money from the black community. If

556
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: you're black and you're talking about blackness, that's it.

557
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: I agree.

558
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: And it's also one of those things like when you

559
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: look at it, a lot of the the quote unquote

560
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: division that people see within blackness that's always been there too,

561
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: and that's hard for people to understand.

562
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 3: Why are we unified?

563
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: It was never one hundred percent unification and because of slavery,

564
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: You've always have had a percentage. Because of their life

565
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: experiences that they've been through, they never want to ruff

566
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: with white people feathers. Ever, no matter what the decision is,

567
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: they're always gonna be like, what's the path of least resistance?

568
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: Because I don't want if y'all niggas go out there

569
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: and act the food, I have to live with the

570
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: consequences of repercussions of it. Even if the person is like, hey, dog,

571
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: this will benefit us all, they don't care. And I

572
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: get it because to an extent, it's fear is the

573
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: white supremacy, it's slavery.

574
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: Like it's a mixed bag of shit.

575
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: Everybody didn't like Matin, Luther King, everybody didn't like Michael X,

576
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: everybody didn't like all that marching. It was some people

577
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: that told them niggas sit yall ass down. I'm fine,

578
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: just like I am. I would eat the scraps off

579
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: the floor, whatever it takes just to get by and survive.

580
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: And those people exist to today.

581
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: So that's one of those things like whenever you do

582
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,239
Speaker 1: certain things, you have to be like, well, I have

583
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: to ignore you because you don't see the bigger picture

584
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: because you're talking to me out of fear. You're talking

585
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: to me because you're scared. I know you never with march.

586
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: I know you never would protest. I know you would

587
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: consistently say everything I'm doing is making these white folks.

588
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: Man.

589
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: I get that, but I still have to do these

590
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: things on your behalf. And so there are people that

591
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: are in places where they can and they opt not to,

592
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 1: and that's like, that's their choice. But I have a

593
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: microphone and I have a voice, and I'm not gonna

594
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: just sit back and let this injustice happen and act

595
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: like the shit don't exist, you know, for whatever reason,

596
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: Like it's just something within me that just will not

597
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: allow that to happen because I have the platform I

598
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: can do those things.

599
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's part of it.

600
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: But you know also like even within that structure, there's

601
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: things I'm willing to do, things I'm not willing to do. So,

602
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: like everybody has to make their choices, but the justifications

603
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: for it is interesting, and a lot of it does

604
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: come down the way do you see yourself in this

605
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: like ecosystem of how you get your how you make

606
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: your living. You know, most people are not really willing

607
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: to risk how they make a living, you know, so

608
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: there's like a privilege, but also like a level of

609
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: restriction around it also just for those that romanticize that

610
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: separate but equal time. I think it's very important to

611
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: point this out because I think most of the people

612
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: that say that stuff are not very educated on what

613
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: it was. And I think a lot of people, once again,

614
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: we were educated in theory. We didn't get to see

615
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: this stuff play out, we didn't live it, so a

616
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: lot of us will think it's very revolutionary to be

617
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: like black people were better off under segregation or whatever. Right,

618
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: Can I tell you some of these rules from Jim

619
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: pro I'm gonna just read. Some blacks were not allowed

620
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: to show public affection towards one another in public, especially kissing,

621
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: because it offended whites. Meaning the same way something y'all

622
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: feel about gay people. For the record, but you couldn't

623
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: like hold your hand with your wife. You were not

624
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: free in that way. You cannot kiss your wife, your husband.

625
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: You were not.

626
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: Free to be loved in public by each other. We're

627
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: not talking about interracial love, just black people existing in

628
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: primarily majority black cities. Even it was like, nah, we

629
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: even fuck you up for that, Jim Crow. Etiquette prescribed

630
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: that blacks were introduced to whites, never whites to blacks.

631
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: For example, mister Peters, the white person. This is Charlie,

632
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: the black person. What I spoke to you about you

633
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: Notice what else happened in there? Mister Peters the white person.

634
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: This is Charlie, the black person, right, not mister Jones.

635
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: Charlie. You don't have to respect that.

636
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: Whites did not use courtesy titles or of respect that

637
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: when referring to blacks, for example, mister and missus, miss sir,

638
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: or ma'am. Instead, blacks were called by their first names.

639
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: Blacks had to use courtesy titles on referring to whites

640
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: and were not allowed to call them by their first names.

641
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: This is like some children shit, like how your child

642
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: can call you mama, but they can't call you, you know, Pam.

643
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 4: That kind of shit.

644
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: Except any white person, any white person walking down the street,

645
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: they got to be mister or missus something, and you

646
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: gotta be road or Karen. If a black person rode

647
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: in a car driven by a white person, the black person.

648
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 4: Sat in the back seat or the back of a truck.

649
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: Now that's just uber now, but at the time it

650
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: was a sign of disrespect because sitting in the passenger.

651
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: Seat meant we were equals. We're having conversation.

652
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: It's like no boy getting the back like like you know,

653
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: a piece of luggage or equipment. White motorists had the

654
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: right of way at all intersections. That was the craziest

655
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: one to me because it's already enough. They probably have

656
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: a lot of street lights back then, but it's already

657
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: enough to be at a four way intersection and be like, wait,

658
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: I'm making a left.

659
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 4: That means I wait for everyone, then it's my turn.

660
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: Imagine you just get to an intersection it's white people

661
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: and you just don't get to go.

662
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: You don't get to go. You have to wait that

663
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: till all the traffic fucking clear.

664
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: That like whenever the white people are not there, and

665
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: these white folks was enjoying that privilege. Quote unquote, a

666
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: black male could not offer his hand to shake hands

667
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: with a white male because it implied being socially equal. Obviously,

668
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: a black male could not offer his hand to any

669
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: other or any other part of his body to a

670
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: white woman because then the rest being accused of right.

671
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: Blacks and whites were not supposed to eat together. That

672
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: they did eat together. Whites were to be served first,

673
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: and you had to put a petition between them, meaning

674
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: white people and black people cannot be in this saying

675
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: it's like this, the white section is the black section,

676
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: and the foods come out. The white people had to

677
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: get their food first, no matter what order they came in.

678
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: None of that shit.

679
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: This seems These are the most trivial, silly, bullshit things.

680
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: But just imagine how inconvenient this is for everyone who thinks,

681
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: but we was better off under segregation and equal.

682
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: You know this is that separate but equal.

683
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: But your textbooks are white hand me down pet hooks,

684
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: do it holes and pages missing from five years ago,

685
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: and your school is running down and you don't got

686
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: none of the stuff that they got. But then they say,

687
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: at least you got your own school. What the fuck

688
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: do that mean, Doc, You're not giving me a fair resources.

689
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: Under no circumstance was a black male to offer to

690
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: light the cigarette of a white female because that gesture

691
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: implied intimacy.

692
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's just some of them.

693
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And as somebody from the South, and as somebody

694
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: who got family members, I have an aunt that was

695
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: a small child during this era, and she will tell

696
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: you she you know, And I've sit down and talked

697
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: to hers. She's and and and this is why I

698
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: don't believe this shit has made up, because you can

699
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 1: tell when you talk to people and they be like really, yes, bitch, real,

700
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: like like this shit wouldn't made up.

701
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 4: Like me made up? Who thinks?

702
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: Not really made up?

703
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: But when you talk to people and you tell people

704
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: about the Jim Crow, it goes back to it's hard

705
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: for people to fathom that because they didn't live it

706
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: and experience it, and they don't have people around them

707
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: sometimes to actually tell them like that, actually, I am

708
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: a living witness that these things happen kind of worldly

709
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: to keep to keep these things in the forefront of

710
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: people's mind.

711
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think made up necessarily is the

712
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: right word, but I hear you. I think what it

713
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: is is that people think is distant.

714
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: That's a better word. They don't think that people are

715
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: among us that experience these things. They don't think that

716
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: like and the other thing, I think the biggest part

717
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: that has done us a hugeest service is that people

718
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: believe there's this linear progress of America that if you

719
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: look at it tomorrow be better than it was the

720
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: day before.

721
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: And that's It's been a roller coaster a progress. It's

722
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 2: been black people, gay people, women, somebody wins some freedom

723
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: that is not a group of just white men, and

724
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: then white men try to take it down to the

725
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 2: studs take it all back, and that backlash is real

726
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: and prolonged. Jim Crow last it I think a hundred

727
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: years before you get the civil rights movement like these

728
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: are not short like this idea you can take a

729
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: little bit of backstep like I. You know, it's one

730
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: of the things I always thought was so arrogant and

731
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: privileged about to burn it down people. I was like,

732
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: you've never had it burned.

733
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: Down, No, because and then what then what.

734
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: The ancestral DNA doesn't live in you that says, burned

735
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: down my protections? Right, because everything that's been built up

736
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: black people had to build up in this country and

737
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: then erect some level of protection around it that we

738
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: are not able to do by our own our loansome

739
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: that thirteen percent spread throughout the country is not able

740
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: to enforce these things.

741
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 4: You do need a government.

742
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 2: You need some people that will You need a hand

743
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 2: in the White House that will send down federal troops.

744
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: You need somebody at the DJ that will investigate that

745
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: black death, but that the boy the police.

746
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 4: You need it.

747
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: People just think they don't need it because they think

748
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: their safety rails on And a large part of that

749
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: is from the propaganda of our education system that make

750
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: people think this was all just a linear slow hey man,

751
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 2: somebody had to put the bullet in to shoot Martin

752
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: Luther King.

753
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: He ain't die of old age, and he ain't he.

754
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: Wasn't mourned immediately by everybody. So like, you need to

755
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: know these things and your and I think this is

756
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: where I will say and I don't mean to, uh,

757
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: you know it don't take I hopefully don't take too

758
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: much offense to it.

759
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 4: But this is.

760
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: Where everybody's need to feel good all the time.

761
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: Hurts us as a community, as a people.

762
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: And I don't mean just black people, I mean American people,

763
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: people in the world. Your escapism, your I need to

764
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: be entertained, your I don't want to revisit anything painful.

765
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 2: I don't want to learn anything that makes me feel bad.

766
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: That's where they get you. The same people banning the

767
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: books about history are happy that you are like I

768
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: don't want to read by knows, like I don't won't

769
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: read by no.

770
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: Civil rights bullshit. They're happy for that.

771
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: They're happy that the only way you're you're gonna learn

772
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: is through entertainment. You know that it takes an episode

773
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: of The Watchmen to teach America about Tulsa, Like they

774
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: glad you didn't crack a book open and find out

775
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 2: about Tulsa on your own.

776
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: They love that.

777
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: They want you to feel that escape because when they

778
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: banned the books about Tulsa and all you have left

779
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: is the TV shows, no one's learning about it anymore.

780
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: So I just find it to be like, it's very

781
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: convenient how these strange motivations, one to kind of escape

782
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: trauma and the other to bring the things that were

783
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: traumatic back into societal forefront. Both of these exists at

784
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: the same time from two groups that are opposite, equal,

785
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: opposite each other, and yet it gets us here where

786
00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: we are right now.

787
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: Right and to kind of piggyback on some of the

788
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: things you just said, going back to my family member,

789
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: myunt who raised me and my mama, because like you say,

790
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: the word I use was incorrect, but like you said,

791
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: at distance, because I was never able to distance myself

792
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: from it, because I had people that are allowed today

793
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: that were blinking their eyes, that could look me in

794
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: my face, and I could see the hurt and the

795
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: pain and the disappointment in this country. I could see,

796
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: you know, them within their heart having to forgive a

797
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: lot of white people for the shit that they did

798
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: to their family members and their loved ones. You know,

799
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: hearing my mama talk about family members that had to

800
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: leave in the middle of a night and shit like that.

801
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: You know, listen to my mama talk about being a

802
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: child and black only white only, you know, being a

803
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: child and going to the back of the restaurant, being

804
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: a child and.

805
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: Working out in the fields.

806
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: And my mama she was telling me, she was saying

807
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: that she was so thankful when they passed the laws

808
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: that said that you could not keep children out of school,

809
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: but so many days. See his just repeating itself because

810
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: now they're trying to strip all that shit away, and

811
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: so it's very important.

812
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: But the story intends are very important.

813
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: Because years ago that law about their children having to

814
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: miss so many days, you know, parents get tired of

815
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: that shit.

816
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 3: That wasn't always a law.

817
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: So because my family worked down south in the cotton

818
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: field and shit like that, worked out on.

819
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: The farm, my mama used to tell me that doing.

820
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: Like cotton season, they wouldn't go to school for mutts

821
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: on end and then all of a sudden they thrust

822
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: back into school.

823
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: They don't know what the fuck going on. They're don't

824
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: miss subjects and shit like this, and they basically passed

825
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: them through.

826
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: And when they made the law like they did, it

827
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: got mad. But she was like, thank god, I don't

828
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: have to be out here doing this fucking hard ass labor.

829
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: But which their daddy was doing to protect them, right,

830
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: may he ain't have a choice. Like that's another thing,

831
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: like a lot of times we personalize the choices, not

832
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: that you just didn't, but just in general, people look

833
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: back on history and they personalize these choices and the like.

834
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: And then black people thought they should wear suits and

835
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: they were in racism.

836
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: No, they didn't. They wanted to live. They wanted to survive.

837
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: That was the revolution at the time when they were

838
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: telling you black people wear tattered rags and they're all dumb,

839
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: and they're all ignorant, and they can't speak English, and

840
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: they can't write, and they can't ready, they were actually

841
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: the people risking their lives when they made that newspaper.

842
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 2: They were gonna fucking get burned, get it burned down

843
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: where they were serving that community like that. And and

844
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: I'll say, this is the last thing that we can

845
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: move into something else. But this is one of the

846
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: things I think is to disconnect even today in America

847
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: from those of us who live in the South versus

848
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: those of us that live other places. Those of us

849
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: that live in the South, we live in the crime scene, right,

850
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: Like we walk among the skeletons and the knives, you

851
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like we are he witnessing.

852
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: How close we are to being right.

853
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: Back right, that's so adamant about it in other parts

854
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: of the country don't understand that.

855
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: It's why I'm I'm glad we have this show so

856
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 2: that people can hear the passion in our voices, because

857
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: it's often trivialized in other spaces. The black people who

858
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: are like, no, we do need to vote, and we're

859
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: we're we're risking a lot with this whole, Like I'm

860
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: so revolutionary, I'm gonna be okay either way.

861
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 4: We won't be okay.

862
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: We will not like this like we're we're we're here

863
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: by the bridge, is where the water hoses are at,

864
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 2: and the dogs will let loose. We're you know, we're

865
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: we're we're here by the people. We're here with the

866
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: ancestors of the people that killed and took over black.

867
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: Government in Wilmington.

868
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 2: Yes, like that, that is in our ancestral DNA and

869
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: the it's not a fear that you're hearing it.

870
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: It is a energy of fighting.

871
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: But we fight with every tool we have, and part

872
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: of those tools have been historically stuff like getting rules

873
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: and laws passed and then enforced to protect us. It

874
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 2: hasn't all just been the romanticized version and.

875
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 3: Like and.

876
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 4: Part of the way that.

877
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, sadly, part of what has really hurt that idea

878
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: in America of like, hey, you do need some institutional

879
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: guardrails that help protect you so you have the right

880
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: to protest enforce right.

881
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 4: Part, sadly, part of what I.

882
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: Think fucked that up was a lot of integration with whiteness,

883
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: meaning white people don't have any ancestral memory of the fight.

884
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: They fight as ollies, of course, and we love that,

885
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: but they fight in a way that is not tied

886
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: to survival for them. It doesn't mean that are white

887
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: people that died for it, but like it's like saying this,

888
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: white people died during the Civil War to free you them.

889
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: White people didn't die for that reason. There was there

890
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: were some that I'm sure there was a handful, but

891
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 2: the majority didn't just wake up and go I'm sick

892
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 2: of black slavery.

893
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: That's not what happened.

894
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: They were the most the majority of the money making

895
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: states in America were like, we fin to make our

896
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 2: own country, fuck y'all, And they went, know the fuck,

897
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: you ain't come back.

898
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 4: You're not gonna divide the country. That's what it was.

899
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 4: But what did we teach our what do we teach

900
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: our kids. It was because they care so much.

901
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: About slavery, right, we allow that type of misinformation to exists.

902
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: But also when you combine that coalition, you end up

903
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: with people that think burn it all down, right, because

904
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: you ain't never had nothing burned down it's you.

905
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: You're a burner, you know what I mean.

906
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 2: Damn, that's a very huge irony with the Bernie Sandor

907
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: shit we've been talking lately. But you're a burner, Like

908
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: you're a person that whether even if you think like

909
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: your idea, your thought isn't, burning shit is wrong.

910
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: It's we just burned the wrong shit.

911
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: And it's like, now, what we're saying is if if

912
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 2: white people catch a cold, we get the flu, meaning

913
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: if you burn it all down there, it'll be even

914
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: worse for us, But you don't live here, you go

915
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: back to your house. It's those when we saw the

916
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: protest during the pandemic and those white people came to

917
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: DC and they were in the street burning shit, and

918
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: then black people from the community had to come and

919
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: put the fires out and tell them get the fuck

920
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: out of here.

921
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 4: And people was like, oh, why see this was wrong

922
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 4: with black people.

923
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: They're not being revolutionary enough, it's like, no, I live here,

924
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: that that that means something for me.

925
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: You get to go back home where the police don't

926
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 4: fuck you up. I don't.

927
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: So you burn it and then you go back to

928
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: Seattle and I'm stuck and now and now what because

929
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: your freedom and your whatever this was your displayed was

930
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: not a real consequence to you.

931
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 4: It was it was tourism for you.

932
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: And so I think a lot in a lot of cases,

933
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 2: that's how we end up in this in this idea

934
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: of like the real coward is you know, the black

935
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: people in South Carolina that wanted Bien, They're the real cowards.

936
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: And I'm like, those are the only brave people in

937
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 4: this process.

938
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: They're the only brave people because they put it on

939
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: the line and they knew, like, hey, y'all talk a

940
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: good game, y'all won't live it, and we'll just end

941
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: up like y'all did with Hillary, will end up like

942
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: what happened with Kamala, Like y'all actually don't really believe

943
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 2: this shit, and we just know because we would actually

944
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: have to live with the consequences in a way you don't.

945
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: Like.

946
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: I was listening to a podcast at the time. It's

947
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 2: two black people talking, but you know, they got money,

948
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 2: they're doing well.

949
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 4: But after the election, their analysis is very much like

950
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: ball up top.

951
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: Hey, you know things we get And I'm like, right,

952
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: but I'll never be able to feel that way. My

953
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: entire livelihood is based on the community. It's not a hey,

954
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: white people, write me a check, do my show.

955
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 4: I'll be all right. No, I won't be all right.

956
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 2: And not just but just also on a deeper level,

957
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: we have to stay connected to that community.

958
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 4: But what we do, we're.

959
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: Not just handing out opinions and then looking at the

960
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: numbers on the sheet, like the community lets us know

961
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: what they think about what we have to say. Like

962
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: so it's an ecosystem that we're in. But yeah, it's

963
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: just all that stuff was what I was thinking.

964
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: About, right, And it's also I think for me, it's

965
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: one of the things, one of the most important things

966
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: that you just said. And I think this is why

967
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm very adamant and I feel very strongly and like

968
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: you said, when you talk to people know the parts

969
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: of the country, they don't have to deal with this.

970
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 1: A lot of times they just think we're too quote

971
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: unquote radical down South.

972
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, because I feel like what I'm

973
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: saying is there's a type of person that does not think.

974
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 4: We are radical enough.

975
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: They think we are low information, powardly black voters who

976
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 2: voted for an old white man and Joe Biden.

977
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 4: That's what they think, right.

978
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 2: They think real radical is voting for Bernie Sanders, who

979
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: has no plans for blackness.

980
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 4: Like, right, that's what they think.

981
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: So I don't even think, yeah, I don't think they

982
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: think we're radical. They have tricked themselves into thinking what

983
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: our position is though not radical in.

984
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: Right, And it's and it's also one of those things

985
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: to where because sometimes because sometimes I think because of

986
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: the disconnect.

987
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 3: Everybody, the people that are to the.

988
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: Extremists, sometimes the things that they want they feel like

989
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: they either it's all or nothing and they're not realistic.

990
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: And that's a white gamble, right, that's a very or nothing. Right,

991
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: And I'm like, let's let's slowly chip at it.

992
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: It's ball up top, it's a check up like we

993
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: lost that day, It'll be all right.

994
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 4: I expect to be here in four.

995
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 3: Years, right.

996
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where for me I

997
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: look at it completely different. And the most important thing

998
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: you said is we live in the crime scene. I

999
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: think that matters if you live somewhere where you possibly

1000
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: could be living on top of your your ancestors grave,

1001
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: you could be living on top of an old plantation,

1002
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: you could be living on top of an old slave

1003
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: house and not even know where you could be living,

1004
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: or you know, on top of a mass grave and

1005
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: have no idea that's what they built these things where

1006
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: you live on top of not really sometimes even knowing

1007
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: the history of some of these cities and why they

1008
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: named what they named, and it's some weird name, and

1009
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: come to find out that's some Confederate person back in

1010
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: such and such and such and such a And it's

1011
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: one of those things where when you live in areas

1012
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: like that, you're very adamant because you go, it's a

1013
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: crime scene. You're going, you know, it could be a

1014
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: crime scene again like like like there's there's nothing stopping.

1015
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: The bodies are buried here, right, the mass grave, and

1016
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: we ride over it every day, and but people are

1017
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: telling us that it's not that bad, that it right,

1018
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: go back to that that was a long time ago.

1019
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 4: We'll be all right, what are you worried about?

1020
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna bounce back and be more progressive than

1021
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: we were before.

1022
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: It's like, no, bitch, that's not really, that's not realistic.

1023
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: And also I want to talk about what you were

1024
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: saying about the burn it all down people. The thing

1025
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: is they never have a core. They never can properly

1026
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: answer questions. And that's what's frustrating to me. That's why,

1027
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: that's why when people say burn it all down, I just,

1028
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: I just, I just I don't want to hear that.

1029
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: You got to say, hey, because I look at you,

1030
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: and then what and then what? Where's my protection? What

1031
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: happens to me when crimes are committed against me? What

1032
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: happens when the klan rises again? How do I protect myself?

1033
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 1: You don't have answers for that. All you're saying is, bitch,

1034
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: burn it down. A system will take its place, A

1035
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: system will come around because of how people are. A

1036
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: system will take its place. Right, And so you can't

1037
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: tell me to burn it all down and then you

1038
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: and then you can't give me a rational and a

1039
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: reasonable and a logical explanation and expect me to follow you.

1040
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 3: Fuck you.

1041
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: I just want you to know that we started this

1042
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: podcast at like ten o'clock at night in our apartment

1043
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: downstairs during quiet hours. Sorry, uh, you know what, that's

1044
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: politics till we get mad.

1045
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: Let's just make oh yeah, yeah, everybody get a hundred.

1046
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully no one comes knocking on our door even

1047
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 2: started on this level. But I just have been thinking

1048
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: about this for a while. So that's what happened, all right.

1049
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 4: Gender wars, we're going to war.

1050
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 5: War is a war going on outsids. War is a

1051
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 5: war going on outside war.

1052
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: I just know our neighbors upstairs absolutely think you'd be

1053
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: down here cussing me out.

1054
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: Abusing me, like, oh I worried about that young that

1055
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: young black couple of.

1056
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: One day, you're gonna have somebody pull you, sir? Are

1057
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: you okay? Are you all right?

1058
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 4: I'm trying to share my screen, guys.

1059
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna see how this works out and and and

1060
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: if y'all can hear it, because I'm back in Firefox,

1061
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: so I'm not sure it's sharing it right.

1062
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,959
Speaker 4: Is it's showing me? Is it showing YouTube? I mean Twitter?

1063
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 4: Right now?

1064
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: I see Twitter?

1065
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Now we need to see if it lets the

1066
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 2: sound play because I don't and Chrome it wasn't allowing

1067
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: the sound to play.

1068
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 4: So let me know if y'all can.

1069
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: Hear, ladies, this man right here is broke. He's broke.

1070
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 4: Clear? Okay, did y'all hear any of that in the chat?

1071
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 4: I just need to know if if y'all heard that? Yes? Okay, cool?

1072
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 4: So firefox works, all right.

1073
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: So this gender war the subtitle is or the head

1074
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: of his girl gets mad because he took her to

1075
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: Starbucks on their first day. Okay, and it looks like

1076
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: maybe a white girl and a brother is in the car.

1077
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 4: Uh for some reason, says motivating it. Okay, all right,

1078
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: so here we go, ladies.

1079
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 2: Oh it's Vegas girl got mad on her man for

1080
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: taking her to Starbucks. Okay, it's definitely. Oh so we

1081
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: don't get this a lot interracial gender war.

1082
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: I don't know that that kind of that. That's a

1083
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: different level agenda. Hey, that mixes gender hand race.

1084
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 4: Hey, don't get no ideas out here. But I'm saying, here.

1085
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 3: Is broke, he's broke.

1086
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 6: Look at him, Look at him.

1087
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 7: Let me take you, leta take you back on. I

1088
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 7: take you back.

1089
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 6: In your car right now, and you want to take

1090
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 6: me home?

1091
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: You sure about that?

1092
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 5: Oh?

1093
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1094
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely? And you can you can get any other day,

1095
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 4: right just like you said.

1096
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 7: You can get any dude, you come and pay for

1097
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 7: your meal and take you like money. Done right.

1098
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: I appreciate the music they obviously added in post of

1099
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: this sad whatever this music is, it is very dramatic.

1100
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: Also, I like that she got.

1101
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: Her face in it, like, look, I look like this.

1102
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: You know that's what was missing from that that wag

1103
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: ass airport. You gotta turn the camera so we can

1104
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: see both of y'all so we can start making our analysis.

1105
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: The third thing, I like that he's not dressed up

1106
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: for a day, Like he looked like he just going

1107
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: to the gym, came from the gym running errands or something,

1108
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: so like he looked mad, casual, and she's like, I'm

1109
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: over here looking cute and look at what he's doing.

1110
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 7: You can you can get that.

1111
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 6: So now we're not going on the date because you

1112
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 6: don't want to pay more than Starbucks.

1113
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 4: Oh it's not bad, no option. So if money's no

1114
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 4: money is no option, I think noney is no object.

1115
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 6: But okay, all right, and then why aren't we going

1116
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 6: on the date, like an actual date, because one you're

1117
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 6: trying to.

1118
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 4: Put me on blasts. Honestly, money no option is a

1119
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 4: great fordying slip.

1120
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: Money and no option for a cheap nigga is actually

1121
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: like put that on the T shirt. Yeah, because I'll

1122
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: give you. I guarantee you that I confused quite a

1123
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: few people.

1124
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: I want to know how to respond to that one.

1125
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, money is no object. Mean I'm finn to put

1126
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: these bands out here.

1127
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 4: Don't worry.

1128
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: I got you, girl, Money is no option. It's like, girl,

1129
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: I hope you like coffee. I hope you like that

1130
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: three for five, right, you in the you in the

1131
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: teen McNuggets.

1132
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: You into three for twenty D because one you're trying

1133
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: to put me on as like you got your phone

1134
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: out of filming this interaction.

1135
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: Love that he that he recognized that the big elephant

1136
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: room and talked about the phone, the phone, and acknowledged

1137
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: that it was too many people think they outthink themselves

1138
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: and they go, no, if it was a TV show,

1139
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: we act like the camera wasn't there. It's not a

1140
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: TV show. It's making a viral video that's trying to

1141
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: convince us that this is real.

1142
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 3: So you need to acknowledge that the audience is there.

1143
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: Right and you're having a fight, which definitely somebody does

1144
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: not want on film. If both parties are okay with

1145
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: it being filmed, and that's a that's a weird fight.

1146
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 3: They did a strange fight.

1147
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I thought I.

1148
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 6: Was getting praiked at this point, like it feels like

1149
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 6: it's not real because I've never had a grown man

1150
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 6: take me to Starbucks for a date?

1151
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 7: What you never had a grown man in general? Because uh,

1152
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 7: you know you acting really like you expect me to

1153
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 7: take some restaurant right out the game. You know what,

1154
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 7: I'm gonna do you one better. I'm not even gonna

1155
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 7: take your phone. Any any dude can coming to get

1156
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 7: you and take you out right. Okay, let me let

1157
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 7: me go ahead and make sure that's the case.

1158
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: Are you serious?

1159
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 4: Are you?

1160
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 3: You know what?

1161
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1162
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 3: Whatever, you're pfout, pick you out, baby.

1163
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 4: That was good. That was actually really good.

1164
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: That was a great ending, getting her telling get out

1165
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: the car, her getting out.

1166
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was you know what? All right? Zero to ten? Caroll?

1167
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 4: Would you write this gender war?

1168
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually get this one at eight? This one

1169
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: was really really good. Not quite ten, your no.

1170
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 4: It's not quite ten.

1171
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: I guess it's not quite ten, but eight because they

1172
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: hit all of it. You I it's one of those

1173
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: things where, like you said, you've seen the face.

1174
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 3: They had an interaction.

1175
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: You don't always have to yield, but their energy was

1176
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: the same, if that makes sense. You didn't have one

1177
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: person's energy kind of overshadow the other person.

1178
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: And then honestly, their energy felt right for a first date.

1179
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 2: We're not really like we're this is the middle of

1180
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: a relationship, right, we're having a dispute, but we don't

1181
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: know each other like that.

1182
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 4: They got fifteen point two million views.

1183
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 3: That makes sense.

1184
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: This is from June ninth year ago, so this is

1185
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: an old one. I just this new to me. And

1186
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: the comments, you know, there's a lot. There's five almost

1187
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: six thousand replies.

1188
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think for the fact that it was

1189
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: mixed interracial kind of bumps it up too, because then

1190
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, you have everybody from both sides fussing, because,

1191
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: like you said, the thing is for the comment section.

1192
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: A lot of the comment section is going to be like, yeah, hey, brother,

1193
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: you're dealing with this white girl. White girl's dangerous, and

1194
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: then you know, and then you're gonna have sisters come

1195
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: in and go, hey brother, you deal it with this

1196
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: white girl.

1197
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 3: We don't like white girls. I will say over the case, maybe.

1198
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: I will say what fucked this up on you on

1199
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: the comment section. It's not their fau it's Twitter's far

1200
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: with under Elon Musk. They let people with blue checks

1201
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: the worst people on the fucking site at this point,

1202
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: they let them have their replies moved up to the

1203
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: top of the responses, and so it's mostly other people

1204
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: trying to go viral with other videos, trying to be like,

1205
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: oh look, here's here's a video of something else.

1206
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 4: Hey, look check this out.

1207
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: And so unfortunately we can't really get the gauge on

1208
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: just how people felt at the time because there's gonna

1209
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: be a lot of people like you have to keep

1210
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: scrolling to get to like somebody that's just saying it

1211
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: just playing.

1212
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 4: But there's just not a lot and especially now because

1213
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 4: you can hide.

1214
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: Your blue check mark, so there's people in the comments that,

1215
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm probably a thousand comments down there's still

1216
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: blue check mark people. So I don't know if this

1217
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 2: caught on at the time, but fifteen point three mini views,

1218
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna assume it.

1219
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 4: Caught on at the time. It did, And yeah, eight.

1220
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: Out of ten, good job everybody involved, very solid effort. Yeah,

1221
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: it wasn't ten out of ten, obviously, but man, and

1222
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: I just and I'm so curious about the party you

1223
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: brought up.

1224
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 4: How did this break down racially?

1225
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: Because I feel like, what a lot of times with

1226
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: the gender wars, we see it as black men versus

1227
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: black women, which it is a lot of times, but

1228
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: in certain a white woman turns it into another type

1229
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: of black men versus black women thing of like, oh

1230
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 2: you got you a white girl. I bet you thought

1231
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: I thought they were supposed to be docile and nice,

1232
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: like oh so good, good, good job. Everyone, Just take

1233
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: a bout eight out of ten. We hate to see it,

1234
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: but we love to see it.

1235
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

1236
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 4: And of course I'm not arguing about the principle of it.

1237
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck what y'all do on y'all

1238
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: first date, still day, Okay, the all one got live

1239
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: in this world, not me, I agreed. All right, let's

1240
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 2: get into one more fun thing and then we'll wrap

1241
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: it up. I know we said we wouldn't go along today,

1242
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 2: so let's do some guests.

1243
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 4: The race. It's hard to guess the race. It's time

1244
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:13,959
Speaker 4: to race. It's time to catch the race. It's time

1245
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 4: to guess the race. All right, guess the race.

1246
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: Time go around to go find different articles, guess the

1247
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 2: race of the people involved. Karen plays along, chatroom plays along,

1248
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: and that's it. And someone was like, Rod, can you

1249
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: make these harder by not telling Karen enough information and

1250
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: all this stuff?

1251
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:34,479
Speaker 4: Honestly, guys know, I I don't. The point of guess

1252
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 4: the race is not to be.

1253
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: Difficult, and it's honestly, if I start, if I start,

1254
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: if I start hedging too much, like like, obviously there's

1255
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: sometimes where I have to like it. If the article

1256
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: says subject is a suspect was a blackmle, obviously I

1257
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: won't read that. But I can't hedge too much because

1258
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: then you're just reading my hedges, which is not about

1259
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: the game at all, and you'll be able to read

1260
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: me and be like, oh, he's not saying this because

1261
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: that's a white person. He don't want this information to

1262
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: give it away. So no, the game is the same,

1263
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: and and honestly, it's much It makes it much more

1264
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: fun when y'all do all get it wrong, yes, like because.

1265
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 3: You stuff for your stereotypes kind of kind of.

1266
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, none of y'all can say he tricked me or

1267
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: he just made it too difficult.

1268
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 4: No, this is what the article said.

1269
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: This the information, and you assumed some some ship and

1270
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: you was wrong because you're racist. After after finaling ferret

1271
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: suspect stole weasel.

1272
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 3: Oh no, is that that I say?

1273
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 4: Is it a roting?

1274
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: I'm assuming it is.

1275
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: I think, so, okay, Yeah, I don't know with the squirrels,

1276
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: but I don't know.

1277
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about the genus of either. But

1278
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: I guess he couldn't weasel this way out of this one.

1279
01:01:59,720 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

1280
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 4: Police are searching.

1281
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: For I guess it couldn't pop out of that situation.

1282
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: Police are searching for the Florida man who suffered who's stuffed,

1283
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, stuffed a six hundred and fifty dollars ferret

1284
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: into the front of his shorts and smuggled the prolonged

1285
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: weasel out of a Petland store.

1286
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn, that's an expensive ass weasel.

1287
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1288
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: The ferret heist, cops say, occurred Tuesday afternoon in Jacksonville.

1289
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: Sipe, no swiping.

1290
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: The swipe birl weasel. I think, so, yes, good, that's good.

1291
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't I just don't know. I just didn't know.

1292
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: Yes, shout out the door the explorer. I know somebody

1293
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: with that kids just busted out laughing.

1294
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: Security cameras captured them and while he browsed the ferret

1295
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: section of the store and findles the fare for quite

1296
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: some time, the man didn't shove the ferry to his

1297
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: shorts and departed Petland. As he left the business, the

1298
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 2: man seen in the adjacent railings footage health the crotch

1299
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: area of his shorts to support the ferret as he

1300
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: walks past all points sale points of sale without paying.

1301
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 2: So he's like, I'm just holding my big ass dick.

1302
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: Guys just wiggling around. Nothing to see here.

1303
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 3: I know, Dick's movement able to move like that, Like, sir,

1304
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 3: you need to get that checked out.

1305
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: Recognizing that the suspect was fleeing with the ferret, a

1306
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: Petland manager gave chase, but was damn they be caring

1307
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: about them animals who.

1308
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 4: Was unable to get the man license on the.

1309
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 3: Man was six hundred and fifty dollars.

1310
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 2: He wasn't able to get the man the license on

1311
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: the man's vehicle, which is described in the report as

1312
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: white work van with multiple ladders on the top.

1313
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 4: The Ferret Thief.

1314
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: The Ferret Thief Investigators reporter has a unique long mustache

1315
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 2: and was wearing a blue underarmoored shirt and shorts with

1316
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: a navy logo. They haven't recognized him through an automated

1317
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: facial recognition system. Maybe he was wearing a fake mustache.

1318
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: Have you thought about that pencil that mustache out? Guys,

1319
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: try again, But they do have good surveillance images of him.

1320
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 4: We don't have a name. Karen, guess the race of

1321
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 4: the ferret? Bandit?

1322
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 3: White?

1323
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: All right, Karen says white. Let's check the chat room

1324
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: and see what they believe.

1325
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 3: When we go to pat stores, we get dogs and cats.

1326
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 4: I mean, this dude literally ferreted away. That's crazy.

1327
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: Let's see, Uh, don't see a lot of guesses in

1328
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: the chat Is that Ricky Ticky in your pocket?

1329
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 4: Or you just happy to see me? White? White? And white?

1330
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 4: Is the van wasn't packing packed a ferret? White? The

1331
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 4: correct answer is white? Y'all got it? Yeah?

1332
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: I mean obviously, as a black man, I wouldn't want

1333
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 2: to put it down my pants because it might assume

1334
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: that it was down there with a rival.

1335
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

1336
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 4: That's how we do, brothers. We all have and look.

1337
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 3: If you have a dick print like that. Good God.

1338
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably why he really did it, to trick

1339
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 4: the ladies. Gentleman with that mustache. Actually maybe the gentleman.

1340
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you never know.

1341
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: He might like might have them chaps, but he doesn't.

1342
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: He got that pouring mustache.

1343
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, that buddy was wow, but he was really you on.

1344
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 3: One right, I need is a cowboy hat.

1345
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 4: Let's go to the next one. Let's see. Uh, whoops,

1346
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 4: hit the wrong button?

1347
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 2: All right, next one X con falls victim to the

1348
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: hot chip challenge. A convicted felon who engaged in the

1349
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: hot chip challenge is behind bars, charged with violating his

1350
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 2: parole by swinging from a bottle of beer due to

1351
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 2: the chip being so hot. Darren, it looks like Dilks.

1352
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: Darren Dilkes, thirty six, was arrested yesterday for allegedly violating

1353
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 2: parole terms that bar him from using a or possessing

1354
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: alcohol or free equiting and establishment with the primary purpose of.

1355
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 4: The cell of alcohol. Oh so like a bar, Yeah, Paul,

1356
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 4: he's not supposed to drink.

1357
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: The parole conditions were part of Dilk's sentencing in Colorado

1358
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: in connection with a felony stalking conviction, so he probably like,

1359
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 2: I aly stalked it because I got drunk, and then.

1360
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 4: It's like we can't.

1361
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 3: We'll fix that problem.

1362
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 4: He lives in Florida.

1363
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 2: He was bussy yesterday during the meeting with the probation

1364
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: officers who had reviewed a video shown him with a

1365
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 2: corona in his hand.

1366
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 4: Oh, man, I.

1367
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: Corona got him on social media?

1368
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 4: Dog they snitching?

1369
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 5: Is?

1370
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: They say he's risked himself and others with any further

1371
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 2: alcohol use.

1372
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: Uh.

1373
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 2: The video, reportedly recorded in late March, showed him doing

1374
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 2: the hot chip challenge.

1375
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 4: He confronted with the chip.

1376
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: He admitted to taking a swig of the corona due

1377
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: to the chip being so hot. That feels like an

1378
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 2: alibi he came up with as an excuse to drink.

1379
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: I feel like he left the house. Like, if I

1380
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 2: do the hot chip challenge, I can get drunk as

1381
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 2: I want, and it's by necessity. How can you prove

1382
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: that I wasn't just trying.

1383
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 4: Not to die?

1384
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: That like Sir's sweet Tea soda, waters out a lot

1385
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 3: of other options in here.

1386
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: Court records do not indicate how probation officers learned about

1387
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: the video. Those social media accounts and phones of those

1388
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: being supervised are often reviewed. While there have been several

1389
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: versions of the challenge, each has involved a consumption of

1390
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: tortilla chip covered with chili spices and approach the upper

1391
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 2: reaches of the Scoville scale. In addition to his alleged

1392
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 2: beer consumption. He was sighted earlier this month with violating

1393
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: the parole requirement to carry a tracking device.

1394
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 4: So he was wild. He was like, that's also the

1395
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 4: chip challenge.

1396
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 2: I was so hot, I had to take off my

1397
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: ankle brace his rap, shooting clues, convictions for dealing in

1398
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 2: stolen property, cocaine sells, grand theft, credit card fraud, heroin possession,

1399
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: cocaine possession, theft, burglary and violating domestic violence protection order,

1400
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: and a partridge in a pear tree.

1401
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 4: Good damn all right, Karen guessed the race.

1402
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 3: Did they say his name Dilks. Darren Dilks is white.

1403
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 4: Darren Dilks is white, says Carol. Let's check the chat room.

1404
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 2: And see what they really pal l white all those

1405
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 2: charges and out white black like the Air Force ones.

1406
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 4: He was wearing white. The correct answer is he was white.

1407
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 4: One person did miss it?

1408
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: You child, telling me you wanted the real challenge. The

1409
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: chip should have had the flaming eyeball chicken on it.

1410
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it says fear of the Reaper on it. What

1411
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 2: I think is interesting is his last name is dilks.

1412
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 4: DEI l k e s. So his last name has

1413
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 4: de e I in it. But he's still a white man.

1414
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: Ain't that wild?

1415
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: Although he does kind of give me a certain chet

1416
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 2: Hayes vibe.

1417
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 3: Don't listen to what people same.

1418
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, the B and John B stands for beer anymore?

1419
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 3: You are not, sir?

1420
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 4: He doing buddy? All right? Caring is two for two.

1421
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 4: So let's go to the next week.

1422
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 3: Why I am racist?

1423
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: How can I be racist about anybody or anything in

1424
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: my life?

1425
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,560
Speaker 4: How can I call them niggas? Just call them niggas?

1426
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 4: This time to.

1427
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 3: Change Skinny Monkey Boon, big.

1428
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 5: High jumping speed chucking three hundred and sixty degree basketball.

1429
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: A registered sex offender who calls himself Master Bader, has

1430
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 2: again been arrested for indecent exposure.

1431
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 3: This time. I don't know what they got me.

1432
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 4: This time is out of a grocery store in Seattle, Washington.

1433
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 3: Oh No, living up to the name, ain't it. Yeah?

1434
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 2: That survived as a prolific public masturbator by prosecutors. Keenan Pearson,

1435
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: forty six, was collared earlier this month after being observed

1436
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: by witnesses openly masturbating in front of numerous members of

1437
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 2: the public, including children. When confronted by I love how

1438
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: it is the children, It's like, well, not the children.

1439
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 3: You masturbate.

1440
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 4: You're masturbating in front of a bunch of adults.

1441
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: Like, regardless if they want to see it or not.

1442
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: Okay, a bunch of disgusted adults who are just not

1443
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 2: consent at all.

1444
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: Right, who was just playing it on? Going grocery shopping

1445
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: for some chips? Look up onto the left and see it, dick.

1446
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: When confronted by cops, Pearson reportedly confessed that he was

1447
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: stroking inside the store.

1448
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was stroking, That's what he be doing.

1449
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 4: Apparently Clarence Thomins Carter, Clarence Tarter Carter.

1450
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: That's different than Clarence Thomas, different type of different type

1451
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 2: of jack off there. According to a probable cause affidavit,

1452
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: while speaking with officers, he was actively looking at women

1453
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: and saying how they should be in his show and

1454
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 2: could stroke it. So he was not doing a lot

1455
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 2: to protect himself from with his Miranda rights. Okay, they

1456
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: was like, right to be silent. He was like, actually,

1457
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 2: these women could also use to see some of this stroking.

1458
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 2: Pearson's extensive rap sheet includes convictions for assaft, voy rism, burglary,

1459
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 2: domestic violence because that's not a daily weapon, and multiple

1460
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,560
Speaker 2: convictions for a decent exposure the States. The Sex for

1461
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: Offender of Registry currently lists Pierson as non compliant.

1462
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He won't.

1463
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: He's like, that's the one thing I won't do in public.

1464
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 2: Sign up for this registry and be compliant.

1465
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 4: Trust me.

1466
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: They know I'm a sex offender. I am walking around

1467
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 2: offending people with my sex. I'm not Andrew dice Clay

1468
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 2: of offensive sex.

1469
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 3: That's what I do. Don't just catch you tell by.

1470
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 2: The name Pierson locked up in the county jail, a

1471
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 2: little one hundred and fifty thousand dollars scheduled to be

1472
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 2: arraigned today. Now my real question is when he's in jail,

1473
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 2: is he also still jacking off in front of everybody else?

1474
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 2: He can control it when it's a bunch of men

1475
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 2: in jail, He's like, well, obviously not here.

1476
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 4: That's ridiculous, right, do that.

1477
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 3: Just somebody around, always around to make sure you keep

1478
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 3: his pants on.

1479
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's my question. I don't know, all right, Karen,

1480
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,919
Speaker 2: guess the race of mister Keenan Pearson.

1481
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 3: I'm going white.

1482
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 4: Karen's going white for the master Bader. Let's check.

1483
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 3: The chat room said it was a white Dick Pierson.

1484
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 2: At everybody black, yank master three thousand, says miss smart,

1485
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: Black says Trey. So two blacks that ender to start it.

1486
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 2: Keenan is black, says fool's paradise Karen. At this point

1487
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 2: the only white, uh am, I wrong? Hold on, Nobody

1488
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: else is guessing black and packing four in a row blacks.

1489
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 3: Y'all gonna make me reconsidered it.

1490
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 4: What's his name again, Keenan Pearson?

1491
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 3: You know what with the last name Pierson, Keenan. Keenan

1492
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 3: is a black name. I don't know, know white.

1493
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 2: Keenan in the chat room, caring with two R says white.

1494
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: So you got one new person that agrees. Just Annie

1495
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 2: says black. Someone says k I n a n or

1496
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 2: k e e n a n. It's the second one,

1497
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: k e e n a n Kean.

1498
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 3: Oh black and I'm gonna go piercing cuse, so you're.

1499
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 4: Going black now, yes, okay, the correct answer is black.

1500
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 4: You got it and one person missed it.

1501
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: That was a brother, and I was like, you're jacking

1502
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 1: off and public like that, isn't it right? And store

1503
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: right in my mind, I was like, well, we don't

1504
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: do that ship, but apparently we do.

1505
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 4: I don't say what black people can't do. Representation matters.

1506
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 3: I guess it does.

1507
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 4: I guess.

1508
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: I guess he wanted to see if his cucumber was

1509
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 1: as long as a real cucumber.

1510
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, let's get to I think it would be

1511
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 4: an eggplant.

1512
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: But yes, oh, I'm thinking about limp just egg plant

1513
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 1: for penis. Yes, oh, banana, but his didn't split.

1514
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 4: Someone said he did that ship.

1515
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 2: Yes, he did look like he did that. Sh I

1516
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 2: didn't need the picture, honestly. The article said, he's telling

1517
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 2: the cops he did that ship, and he was on filming.

1518
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 2: He's probably jacking it off in the muddy. His dick

1519
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 2: is out while they're taking that picture. Right there, you

1520
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 2: probably man jail for brandishing sword and kamloops intersection while

1521
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 2: high on meth.

1522
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: Oh no, white, a.

1523
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: Man who was hould met at armed with a sword

1524
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 2: when he approached a woman stopped in her car at

1525
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: the kamal Loops intersection. Has been ordered to spend ten

1526
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 2: days in jail. Elias Joseph Thompson, twenty seven was sentenced

1527
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 2: Thursday in Kamloops Provincial Court after pleading guilty the two

1528
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:13,839
Speaker 2: counts of breach of probation.

1529
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 4: I wonder if he knew to him. Oh, wait, no probation,

1530
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 4: So maybe I was thinking breach of a restraining order.

1531
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 4: But probation.

1532
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 2: Maybe he's just been told to stay away from people.

1533
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 2: A woman pulled up to the intersection around six am.

1534
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 2: She was approached by man brandishing the weapon she saw.

1535
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: Man later identified mister Thompson, approaching her while holding a

1536
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 2: small store. Mister Thompson was quite frantic, rambling on. He

1537
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: talked about shots being fired. He said he was in

1538
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 2: the bush all night. The woman asked him to put

1539
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 2: the sword down and he complied. Thompson was on condition

1540
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: at the time pro beheviting him from possessing weapons stemming from.

1541
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 4: An assault in twenty twenty two.

1542
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 2: He also breached a no weapons condition May twenty third

1543
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four when he showed up at the

1544
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 2: North Kamloops RCMP office on Seventh.

1545
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 4: Street, claiming he was being chased.

1546
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 2: He was arrested for mischief, after which time police he

1547
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 2: found a large knife in his possession. Later they told

1548
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 2: police he was how meth maybe stopped doing the myth.

1549
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 3: I think that might be that might be the root

1550
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 3: cause of the problem. Yeah.

1551
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 2: The main and really only aggravating factor in this case

1552
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 2: is the dangerous combination of methamphetamine of weapons.

1553
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 4: Uh said, Uh, who is gulette? Does that? Like the

1554
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 4: police sergeant or some shit? Let's be anyway.

1555
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

1556
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: Uh.

1557
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: He was using math at the time, which led to

1558
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: significant paranoid events, uh, said his lawyer. Uh, that said,

1559
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 2: mister Thompson has been doing some counsel while and becusey

1560
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 2: he's been sober since he's been in which is almost

1561
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: a year now.

1562
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean because he's that's not where the

1563
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 4: myth is. Ah, I ain't into jail, yeah.

1564
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 2: Kamloo's Provincial Court judge Roy Dicky went along with the

1565
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: proposal for a ten day sentence, but Thompson won't be

1566
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: getting out of jail anytime soon. He's been hind bars

1567
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,799
Speaker 2: on charges of aggravator assault from last summer in connection

1568
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 2: with stabbing outside of a home.

1569
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 3: So oh so they was like, we got you in here,

1570
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 3: let's go ahead, and yeah this is just that that.

1571
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 4: That robot from fucking Futurama, Roberto I think his.

1572
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 2: Name up Thompson is slated to return to court next month,

1573
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 2: So there you go, there you go.

1574
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 3: All right.

1575
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 2: We started on a very serious, somber note, but I

1576
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: feel like we we picked it up a little.

1577
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 4: Humor in here for y'all.

1578
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 3: Yes, a little weasily.

1579
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for listening, everybody. We appreciate you, and uh,

1580
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: until next time, I love you.

1581
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Speaker 1: You w