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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Sometimes you need

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Speaker 1: another glorious morning, the second day of this divisional round,

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Speaker 1: I remind you that the Cowboys, Bears, Jaguars, Jets, and

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Speaker 1: Giants played just one fewer game than the fifteen win

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions this year.

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Speaker 2: That's low. That's a low blow.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: It's a cheap shot.

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Speaker 1: Hey did I not warn folks a month ago? You

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Speaker 1: get cute, the football gods will smite you. First down

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Speaker 1: after moving the ball twenty two yards very quickly. Two plays. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Jameis and Williams ran with the ball

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Speaker 1: really well on a reverse. Let's throw it. Let's take

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Speaker 1: the ball out of Jared Goff's hands. How much confidence

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Speaker 1: do we have in him? Give the ball to Jameson

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Speaker 1: Williams to throw it. He plays sixty six yards later

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Speaker 1: it's a seventeen point Washington lead.

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Speaker 2: Boy, I couldn't sound like happy. You almost like it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I got to throw it in the face of

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith because I picked the Commanders to win on

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Speaker 1: Friday night and all he did was mock me for

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Speaker 1: four hours about it. Wow, So I'm taking a leak.

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Speaker 1: And he could never go back to Detroit now like

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Speaker 1: he vacations in Detroit. That's where his wife's family's all from.

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Speaker 1: So like for him, it's it's a world to hurt,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. Mike Carbon alongside Andy Furman, Bucky

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Speaker 1: Brooks with you here had Andy Furman, fs are had

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. Let's call it what it is. It's like

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Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors. You were either on board by

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Speaker 1: the end of the second year they were running around

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Speaker 1: shooting threes and changing the game, or you got tired

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Speaker 1: of it. Right with the Lions, I'm not gonna lie,

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Speaker 1: it got a bit overweighted, So I got a little

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Speaker 1: bit tired of it. Especially. I mean go back to

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Speaker 1: when they're calling first down runs for pinay Seool against

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Speaker 1: the Bears on Thanksgiving, comes back on it comes back

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Speaker 1: on you. Your disrespect for your opponent comes back on you.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to go back. I was blessed. I

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Speaker 1: got here a couple of minutes early, guys, as I do.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see Mark and Shay and see how

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Speaker 1: they're doing in the overnight here, make sure if they

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Speaker 1: needed me to go get them a cup of coffee,

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Speaker 1: that I could do that. But I got to hear

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Speaker 1: Andy Furman's interview with the late great Bob Buker, and

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Speaker 1: it's everything that's great about this business and why we

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Speaker 1: respect Andy Furman and why we love Bob Bucker.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't it to view I was a punching bag,

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Speaker 2: but that's fine, no, no, But.

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Speaker 1: It's the idea that you don't take yourself too seriously.

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Speaker 1: Right in the end, we're talking about sports. They are games,

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Speaker 1: and having lived did it in Los Angeles, in the

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Speaker 1: greater Los Angeles area all these years, and what's gone

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Speaker 1: on the last couple of weeks, it's about perspective, right,

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Speaker 1: It's about keeping things right now. It doesn't mean we

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Speaker 1: don't take our sports seriously, right, the ins and outs,

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Speaker 1: the x's and o's and all of that stuff. But

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Speaker 1: sometimes I think in our business, and in the business

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Speaker 1: of sports, we may take ourselves a bit too seriously.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the things I loved about Ker. It's

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Speaker 1: one of the things I loved about Harry carry Ken, Harrelson,

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Speaker 1: go on down the line. That generation of broadcasters. They

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Speaker 1: gave you the nuts and bolts. They lived and died

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Speaker 1: with their teams, but in the end they were having fun,

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Speaker 1: knowing it was an outlet for everybody to relax. And

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Speaker 1: for you, Andy Furman, the way you graciously took and

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Speaker 1: absorbed all those body body blows and rabbit punches. That's

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Speaker 1: the way you approach radio and why I've always respected

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Speaker 1: and loved working with you. Bucky's same thing, right, It's

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Speaker 1: what we do here. We take the topic seriously. But

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Speaker 1: little bit, it's gonna be a tough business, m right, true,

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Speaker 1: all right, And that and that was the thing I

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Speaker 1: think I love most about you, right, the mister baseball

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Speaker 1: and obviously the quick wit. I am glad you still

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Speaker 1: have that autograph, plaque, hall of Famer, all of those things.

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Speaker 1: As a Hall of famer that you are, Andy Furman

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Speaker 1: and Andy Fermans are.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Really, we got to wash them up.

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Speaker 2: It's only sports. I mean, people go crazy. And look,

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Speaker 2: of a change. It's kind of morphed into not so

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Speaker 2: a sports talk show on radio, I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: in a college lecture hole. They're telling me what to do.

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Speaker 2: And you know, some of these hosts behind the microphones

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Speaker 2: of teams, really, don't you think, Buck? Really?

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Speaker 1: Although if you listen to what they say, Bucky, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna guess that ninety nine percent of it backfires. And

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Speaker 1: while they talk a good game, exe cution is really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, execution is where it's at. But I think that's

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Speaker 2: You know, I would say, a good sports talk holst

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Speaker 2: and maybe I'm way off based should be very similar

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Speaker 2: to a top column list in a newspaper. You have

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Speaker 2: an opinion, you state your opinion, give some facts whatever

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Speaker 2: it may be, and stand by it. But there's difference

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Speaker 2: in my mind between an opinion and rating players and

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Speaker 2: mean that that's the technical end of it, which I

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Speaker 2: A guy like Bucket Brook could talk about it. I'm

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Speaker 2: not qualified to talk about that. I never played the game.

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Speaker 2: I'm more I'm nothing more than a fan with an opinion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not saying that, like the only people

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Speaker 3: But I think that's some of that is the sale. Uh,

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Speaker 3: some of that is the packaging in which we wrapped

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Speaker 3: those opinions in. That's part of it, and I think

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Speaker 3: we now have a better understanding. But before shock jock

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Speaker 3: culture certainly was that it shocked us. Yeah, people would

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Speaker 3: have these strong opinions. Now it's just white noise in

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Speaker 4: That's kind of what we're used to.

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Speaker 3: That's the environment that we're in in the secure and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all about trying to pull the strings right.

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Speaker 1: You want to bring in everybody's collective experiences, because in

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Speaker 1: the end, we're all fans. Whether you played the game

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Speaker 1: fan of the game. Now, yes, there's some percentage of

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Speaker 1: cold calculation of Hey, I'm six five three twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I don't particularly like football, but maybe there's a path

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Speaker 1: here if I'm just good enough, you know, for an education,

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Speaker 1: or maybe a couple of bucks, or go on down

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Speaker 1: with any other sport. Right, you find your way. But

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Speaker 1: protests that he's not a fan of the game, the players, whatever,

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Speaker 1: I raised my hand and say, well, what are you

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Speaker 1: that as we come into a day like today, we've

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Speaker 1: got two great games, at least on paper. The second

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Speaker 1: game has all the marks of greatness, with all the

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Speaker 1: great storylines. I heard you guys getting into it a

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Speaker 1: little bit, with Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. Let's face it,

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Speaker 1: I started with the Iron Chic. It comes back to it.

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Speaker 1: It's a loser leaves Town match, right. The loser is

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Speaker 1: going to have a full off season of questions, finger wagging,

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Speaker 1: finger pointing, and all of the would have, could have,

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Speaker 1: What we're doing with Jared Goff and Sam Darnold, Right,

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Speaker 1: they had two great seasons, but on the big stage

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Speaker 1: they failed. So what happens? Acid tongues, poison pens and

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Speaker 1: what do you go and get? I remind you the

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Speaker 1: free agent crop out there is either forty year old

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Speaker 1: guy were thrown away by their past teams, one guy

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Speaker 1: was auditioning for the broadcast booth yesterday and Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: it's pretty good, by the way, wasn't too bad. But

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Speaker 1: all of that to say, what else are you gonna

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Speaker 1: go find as you go through? But you know, as

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Speaker 1: you guys watched watch the games yesterday, We'll get into

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Speaker 1: the Sunday games in Earnest a little bit later. Andy,

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Speaker 1: did you did you start throwing imaginary penalty flags or

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: Look, I think that the situation with the Kansas City

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Speaker 2: that they lost the game because of the officiating, I

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Speaker 2: get it. There was some questionable calls, several questionable calls,

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Speaker 2: but I do think that they imploded on themselves with

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Speaker 2: the game, don't you agree.

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Speaker 3: I think you can say that, but I think you

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Speaker 3: also can point out the fact that there were a

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Speaker 3: and it certainly hurt them in those moments. The first one,

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Speaker 3: Will Anderson hitting Pat Mahomes. The official who threw the

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Speaker 3: Will Anderson didn't hit him in the face. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: He hit his shoulder pad on the front shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Later, Pat Mahomes dancing around and playing nice and running

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Speaker 3: flopping the slide, and then he gets hit and they

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Speaker 3: give him another fifteen yards. Pat Mahomes taking his time

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Speaker 3: running out of bounds and being like a driver on

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Speaker 3: the four or five who slightly taps his brakes hoping

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Speaker 3: Mahomes does all that, and every one of those things

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Speaker 3: led to a call, with the exception of the out

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Speaker 3: City's thing, right that they seem like all of these

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Speaker 4: The victor goes to sports.

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Speaker 3: When you're a championship team, you do all this like, look, man,

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Speaker 3: sometimes you make your own luck. But it certainly does

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Speaker 3: appear that lady luck with the officials.

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Speaker 4: Is always on the kan City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Side at home.

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Speaker 2: And that sounds great. But let me just say this,

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Speaker 2: all right, here's the bottom line. Texans eight penalties, miss

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Speaker 2: block shots, missfield goals CJ. Stroud. That could about got

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Speaker 2: sacked day times. Come on, really, I mean, they played

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Speaker 2: poorly and they deserve to lose. They lost to a

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Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, wait manute you said they played poorly.

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Speaker 3: They outgained the Kansas City Chiefs by more than one

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Speaker 4: They couldn't have many turnovers.

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Speaker 4: Croft got knocked around the pressure almost every snap pressures.

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Speaker 3: the game on special teams, kickoff return, were talking about

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Speaker 4: That's why they won.

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Speaker 3: But the officiating certainly helped them score.

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Speaker 2: It was a little bit of a help. It's true

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Speaker 1: They're going to what is that fifteen straight games with

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Speaker 1: your shot chart for Patrick Mahomes, including the falling down play.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: If you can imagine someone driving to the hole and

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Speaker 3: then they show the replay and you're like, I don't

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Speaker 3: still the star goes to the line. Patrick Mahomes is

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Speaker 3: that's the thing because we watched the last game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: That guy might have gotten ejected.

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Speaker 3: I'm you and so, and so that's the thing that

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Speaker 1: The other thing with that is he was at home

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Speaker 2: You guys are right, and the officiating left suddy to

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Speaker 2: but it would have been a lot better if I

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Speaker 2: Look so you could watch it and see with your

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Speaker 2: own eyes. There was some questionable calls. I don't need

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Speaker 1: Well, but it was one of the narratives around the game, Andy,

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Speaker 1: that's been part of the media narrative. I mean, hell,

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Speaker 3: You know it's part of the game. And well, a

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Speaker 3: couple of things. One, I think Will Anderson should be honest.

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Speaker 3: If you asked a question about how do you feel

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Speaker 2: But if you would have said that there were some

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Speaker 2: But he said he knew going into the game is

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Speaker 3: And then I think if you're Demiko Ryans, given the

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Speaker 4: You have to tell them amen.

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Speaker 3: For us to knock them off, we're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: Things can go that way. We got to lock in

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Speaker 3: We can't be discouraged by some calls that may not

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Speaker 4: We just got to keep playing.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you have to put that seed in your team's

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Speaker 4: Calls that may go against you.

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Speaker 3: You just got to continue to play one player at

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Speaker 3: you kind of lay that foundation so they know what

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Speaker 2: Okay, The truth of the matter is one of the

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Speaker 1: But like all of it, like I'm sure plenty of

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Speaker 3: It is the salty Bears guy that doesn't want to

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Speaker 4: We don't like it.

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Speaker 1: No, no, but it's it's reasons and excuses and look,

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Speaker 4: You got to be able to play with whoever you get.

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Speaker 1: Explain to the kids who oral moral is? Wow, Google,

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Speaker 1: there was your chance to do the lecture. Come on, professor,

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Speaker 1: Bob Buker. Please, you gotta love it. No, it's it's look,

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Speaker 1: If you're playing along the edges and you don't execute you,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were there. They were controlling the game.

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Speaker 3: feel like the momentum killer, the buzz kill, was to

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Speaker 3: miss pat where the game could have been even at

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Speaker 3: thirteen thirteen.

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Speaker 4: They missed a pat and you just saw the.

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Speaker 3: Collective faces on the sideline like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, and.

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Speaker 3: I say that there's a mistake to the Kansaity Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: That reminds me of the Patriots and what they had

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Speaker 3: for twenty years. You are always looking for the other

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Speaker 3: shoot to drop. And when those things happen, it kind

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Speaker 3: of plays into the narrative and the folk lore and

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Speaker 3: the urban legend that the Kancity Chiefs have become because

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Speaker 3: it just seems like everything is going against you. And

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Speaker 3: you know, sometimes perception becomes reality because you do little

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Speaker 3: things that allows the Cancity Chiefs to continue to hold

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Speaker 3: onto that mystique.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me and I said, look, the Lions will

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Speaker 2: not win because of the curse of Bobby Lane.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: That's and I mentioned this to Bucky earlier today. Back

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Speaker 2: in nineteen fifty eight, the Detroit Lions trade Bobby Lane,

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Speaker 2: a quarterback, to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and an angry Bobby

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Speaker 2: Lane said at the time allegedly declared the Lions would

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Speaker 2: not win a title for fifty years.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's basically it. So they're on the clock

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Speaker 1: for another couple of years, all right. Final the pole

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Speaker 1: question of the day, who took a bigger hit? Jared

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Speaker 1: Yaw or Frank Ross, special teams coordinator for the Houston Tensans.

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Speaker 4: Geez, I mean there was a nice there's a nice.

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Speaker 3: Hicks Chris Boyd put on the special teams coach, But

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Speaker 3: I mean it surprised him, for sure. He was very

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Speaker 3: aggressive coming in, but it was almost like a punch

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Speaker 3: of taste in the jab.

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Speaker 4: He backed up.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, okay, gotta go with where the energy is flowing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he was coming, he knew was coming.

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Speaker 1: I think that some extra though, right right off the jumps, like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: what kind of practice week did you guys have together?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Holy cow? All right, that's Andy Furman over there at

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Speaker 1: Andy Ferman FSR. Find Bucky at Bucky Brooks Readham NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com, Foxsports dot com. Andy's got links to everything

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Speaker 1: he's writing in his radio appearances as well. Find me

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Speaker 1: over at Swollen Dome. As we roll forward, we've got

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Speaker 1: a couple of games later on today, but we'd be

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Speaker 1: remiss if we didn't go into the coaching carousel because

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Speaker 1: you know that Lions loss makes things a lot more interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, they can go back and interview today. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to wait anymore. We'll talk about it next

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Speaker 1: year on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: with you this fine morning as we get ready for

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Speaker 1: You'll see the show posted right after we get off

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Speaker 1: the air. Hey you guys, yesterday Jay Glazer a little

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Speaker 1: bit of break news, good friend in the show. He's

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Speaker 1: got his efforts. He's out there. He was displaced with

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Speaker 1: the fires. He was evacuated three times in like six weeks.

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Speaker 1: So Fox out there doing the good things. They set

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Speaker 1: up alter to mobile places where folks on breaks can

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Speaker 1: pause while fighting the fires and cleaning up rubble and

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Speaker 1: everything to watch the games. But he had the news

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Speaker 1: that Northwestern graduate Eddie George see what I did there

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Speaker 1: Northwestern graduate Eddie George, executive NBA. Obviously, you know, big

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Speaker 1: time running back. And now a coach is going to

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Speaker 1: interview with the Bears, becoming the ninety seventh person I

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Speaker 1: kid to interview for the job. I'm not far off

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Speaker 1: at this point. We'll revisit this because, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: between them and the Jets, I think they're leaving no

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Speaker 1: stone unturned, Andy Furman, is that a good hiring practice

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Speaker 1: or not?

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Speaker 2: Well, let me go back and say they're leaving those stones,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think there's many people that really want

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Speaker 2: those jobs. That's the problem. I mean, talk about the Jets.

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Speaker 2: I think Rex Ryan's going to get the job, so

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Speaker 2: because say, I don't know how many people want it,

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Speaker 2: and be he's probably the only one who could deal

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Speaker 2: with Woody Johnson. He's been there, done that. He knows

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Speaker 2: the inner workings of that ball club. As far as

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Speaker 2: the basic concern, don't you think you want to have

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Speaker 2: a guy who's had some sort of experience. I think

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Speaker 2: that Mike McCarthy probably is the guy in the front

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Speaker 2: runner for that job, don't you think. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: thought McCarthy is going to get his interviewed. But again,

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Speaker 2: I think people somehow have doubts because of the way

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Speaker 2: that front office is run in Chicago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean I think there's certainly some doubts in both situations.

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Speaker 3: There's a reason why both teams are searching for a coach.

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Speaker 3: It's not always just on the head coach. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 3: the lack of alignment from the top down. As we

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Speaker 3: specifically talk about the Chicago Bears, you.

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Speaker 4: Kind of wonder who's running things.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Poles may be leading the search, but everyone knows

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Speaker 3: that Kevin Warren, the president, looms in the background. How

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Speaker 3: successful can you be with so many cooks in the kitchen?

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Speaker 3: It's really hard for a coach to come in and

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Speaker 3: implement this coach if you have others who also have voices,

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Speaker 3: that may dissuade everyone from fully buying in. With the Jets,

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Speaker 3: I mean the Jets, you can say the same thing.

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Speaker 3: We've seen the dysfunctional culture that is the Jets, that

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Speaker 3: has popped up, the leaks in the building when it

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Speaker 3: came to media sources. Maybe the lack of fool support

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Speaker 3: behind the head coach and the front office. All of

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Speaker 3: those things matter, and at a time where people are

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Speaker 3: really looking for the culture builders. Culture builders are also

552
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Speaker 3: looking to see, will I have a legitimate chance to

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Speaker 3: implement a culture if I have so many roadblocks that

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Speaker 3: could prevent me from being able to get some of

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Speaker 3: the things done that I want to get done.

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Speaker 1: Well, I made my alliances and my friends back in

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Speaker 1: Chicago love the fact that I keep calling Ryan Pulls

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Speaker 1: an empty suit. He's there conveniently to be fired if

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Speaker 1: this doesn't go right. But for all appearances and for everything,

560
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Speaker 1: Kevin Warren keeps saying he's the guy that's going to

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Speaker 1: make the choice. His track record in terms of decision

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Speaker 1: making now, look, it's so great and will remind folks

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Speaker 1: that Dan Quinn remember the end of last year he

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Speaker 1: was being clowned for giving up one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: eight point three quarterback rating to Jordan Love in a

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Speaker 1: playoff game as a defensive coordinator for the Cowboys. But

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Speaker 1: to your point, Bucket, it's something that Jason and I

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Speaker 1: talked about on our show on Friday, is going away

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Speaker 1: from coordinators and going back to guys. And it's the

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Speaker 1: euphemism that a lot of the Bears players had used,

571
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Speaker 1: kind of ripping the way they've done things is the

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Speaker 1: leader of men is sometimes seen, you know, like the

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Speaker 1: word synergy for a long time would make people cringe,

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Speaker 1: but it's but it's actually something you need in your business.

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Speaker 1: You may not like the term, but everybody in theory

576
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Speaker 1: should be you know, not of that you're always holding

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Speaker 1: hands and singing kumba. Yeah, but everybody should know what

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Speaker 1: the hell's going on, and you should lean into each

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Speaker 1: other's strengths. Likewise, you know, here when we're talking about

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Speaker 1: you know, the leaders of men, like you need a

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Speaker 1: locker room that's not divided, that you've got all three

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Speaker 1: phases of the football team together and it's not. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, that guy's a really good coordinator, which

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Speaker 1: is why the sexy coordinator still has its place, but

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Speaker 1: maybe not as much when we start talking about you know,

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, dan Quinn, some of these other guys getting

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Speaker 1: their shot, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something to be said for that, right, And

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up to dan quinn. Thing like,

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Speaker 3: in terms of a coach getting his second opportunity at it.

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Speaker 3: For so long we have talked about how hard it

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Speaker 3: is to be a head coach because there's no manual

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Speaker 3: in terms of what you should do and how you

594
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Speaker 3: should do it when you make the jump from being

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Speaker 3: positioned coach or coordinator to head coach the second time around.

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Speaker 4: Particularly for Dan Quinn, he.

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Speaker 3: Talked about the clarity that he ended a job with

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Speaker 3: what's important, what's not important? If I get a chance

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Speaker 3: to do it again, how would I remake myself to

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Speaker 3: make sure that I do it better the second time around.

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Speaker 3: I can appreciate that Mike McCarthy having been one successful

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Speaker 3: three straight twelve win seasons in Dallas before it fell

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Speaker 3: off last year. He's been successful, won in Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: In those things I understan and why there's interest there,

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Speaker 3: not gonna lie. I'm still kind of trying to figure

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Speaker 3: out what ron We're very so hot on the circuit

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Speaker 3: right now. I can't understand it because I've seen the

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Speaker 3: Washington franchise kind of fall apart up under him. He

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Speaker 3: has some successful moments and some highs, two time Coach

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Speaker 3: of the Year in Carolina, but there were a lot

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Speaker 3: of losses, a lot of losing there.

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Speaker 4: So I'm bafful But.

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Speaker 3: I do understand why there is a fascination between someone

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Speaker 3: who's done it before, because at least they know.

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Speaker 4: The layer of the land.

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Speaker 3: Now it's about can you help them get it up

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Speaker 3: and going by giving them the players that they need

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Speaker 3: to be able to be successful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Bears. I believe McCarthy's going to get

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Speaker 2: the job. You know why because if I'm making that pick,

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Speaker 2: it's a safe pick. It's a safe choice. Why, he's

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Speaker 2: got the resume, been there, done that. You bring up

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Speaker 2: that guy Eddie Eddie Eddie Jordan, Eddie George, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: and he hasn't done it. You know, been there, done that.

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy has been there, done that. So basically, the

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Speaker 2: person who's making that decision in Chicago, whoever it may be,

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Speaker 2: he's got a safety net.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: McCarthy's done that, been there, he's won. Ron Rivera not

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Speaker 2: so much. But my question is this, I've always thought

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Speaker 2: that Marvin Lewis were going a second chance. How come

632
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Speaker 2: he's never gotten a second chance? I thought he did

633
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Speaker 2: a decent job in Cincinnati, changed that so called culture,

634
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Speaker 2: went to the playoffs five consecutive years, did win a

635
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Speaker 2: playoff game, But why can't he get back into it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean that's a good question. You know, this only

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Speaker 3: one that owners like now. I would say the time

639
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Speaker 3: has passed where he won't get that opportunity ever, right, Like,

640
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 3: just too much time has passed since he was a coach.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine him getting the opportunity to really do it.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was helping out in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: He's in Vegas. Oh yeah, he is.

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Speaker 4: He was in Vegas with Antonio Pearce.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying in terms of time, it's been a

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Speaker 3: long time since he was the last head coach, you know,

647
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Speaker 3: and so.

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Speaker 4: People forget how hard the job.

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Speaker 3: Was when he took it, the success that he had

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Speaker 3: on the job, despite lacking a playoff win, all of

651
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Speaker 3: those things. And so I don't know if you ever

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Speaker 3: get the credit that he deserves for being the type

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Speaker 3: of coach that he was. But yeah, some of these

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Speaker 3: guys getting second opportunities, that's it. But I think it

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Speaker 3: also speaks to maybe how underwhelming the hot coordinator candidates

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Speaker 3: have been. Yep, in terms of when you got in

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Speaker 3: the room and asked him the hard questions about leading

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Speaker 3: the entire team as opposed to the play sheet, That

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Speaker 3: to me is what stands out, and this maybe owners

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Speaker 3: are getting better at asking the questions as it relates

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Speaker 3: to being a head coach compared to just a give

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Speaker 3: me the best play call, and I'm gonna give him

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Speaker 3: the keys to the kingdom.

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Speaker 1: So I think some of it will go back to

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Speaker 1: the Marvin Lewis comment and guys of his ilk Andy,

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Speaker 1: and you know where you've had the ability to maybe

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Speaker 1: build some infrastructure and take a team forward. You know,

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Speaker 1: I will always talked about it going A to B

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Speaker 1: and then B two C. Right, I can get a

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Speaker 1: guy that can get me consistently winning. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: where Mike, Mike Tomlin is right now. But can he

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Speaker 1: get me over the top anymore? Love Smith? In Chicago,

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Speaker 1: they had that one run, the most improbable run ever, right,

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Speaker 1: Rex Grossman as quarterback, Devin Hester and the special teams

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Speaker 1: and every ball that hit the floor or hit somebody's

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Speaker 1: hands and popped into the air was caught in return

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Speaker 1: for touchdowns. So most improbable season in it. But love

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Speaker 1: Smith was a great leader of men. Couldn't win division

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Speaker 1: or late season games, so eventually he's out, But he

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Speaker 1: builds a base for you that in theory, you can

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Speaker 1: build on, like Lewis did in Cincinnati, and we we

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Speaker 1: want guys going from straight from A to c Now

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Speaker 1: we're expecting that miraculous turnaround and recovery so quickly, I

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Speaker 1: think with the way things consumed right now. But you

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Speaker 1: look at all the jobs that are available. Every one

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Speaker 1: of those owners gives you a really big question mark

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Speaker 1: as you walk into the room. I want to interview

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Speaker 1: them as much as I would the candidate.

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Speaker 2: You know, you bring up a good question, and Bucket

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Speaker 2: may have the answer to this. You say, all these owners,

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Speaker 2: do the owners actually interview the potential coach or is

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Speaker 2: it the GM? How does that work? Because the owner

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Speaker 2: may want, say Whatody Johnson may want Rex Ryan, But

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Speaker 2: is he he knows Rex Ryan. Is he going to

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Speaker 2: do the interviewing or is it the new GM will

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Speaker 2: be doing the How does that work?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: I mean, ultimately, the the owners are involved in the process.

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Speaker 3: They have to be involved in the process. That's a

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Speaker 3: big part of how it's done. H The general manager

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Speaker 3: may lead it in terms of like les's identify the candidates.

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Speaker 3: I'll lead the line of questions, but the owner certainly

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Speaker 3: has to be aware of who's about to trust the

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Speaker 3: power of the franchise too. The thing about these cycles

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Speaker 3: and those things, and I'll just say it and watching

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Speaker 3: how some of it's played out. A lot of times,

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Speaker 3: what you have is the perspective candidate is the smartest

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Speaker 3: guy in the room when.

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Speaker 4: It comes to football, and.

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Speaker 3: So he's trying to convince people who don't know football

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Speaker 3: that he is the one that understands football.

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Speaker 4: It's a delicate balance that you have.

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Speaker 3: To toe the line in terms of trying to let

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Speaker 3: people know here's what I know, while also not I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna say this dumming it down so they really understand

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Speaker 3: where you're coming from.

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Speaker 1: M make it digestible, just like we do here every Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Fox Football Sunday. We are with you in spirit and

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Speaker 1: embody in mind. That's Andy Furman over there at Andy

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Speaker 1: Furman FSR. Over, There's Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks find

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Speaker 1: me over at Swollen Domes. We continue, guys. We have

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Speaker 1: three big games to talk about to today and of

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Speaker 1: course that pesky National Title game, and we'll do it

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Speaker 1: next here on Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Radio. Hey, welcome back in Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio from the Tirerack dot Com Studios. Mike Carmen,

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, Andy Furman. You know as a talking to

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Speaker 1: Mark and Shay. One of the promos ran, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to talk baseball and earnest for a while, guys,

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Speaker 1: but I know you're both big seamheads. Sasaki to the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Anybody want to cry fall or make a complaint with

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Speaker 1: the Commissioner's office.

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Speaker 4: Uh No, I'm good. It's Dodgs fan.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with I'm good.

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Speaker 1: To Brooklyn, I see it nicely done.

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Speaker 4: Great opportunity for him to get better.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that they're saying they're going to lodge

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Speaker 1: complaints thinking there was some funny business since he eschewed

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Speaker 1: the money to go to Toronto.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That and Padre fans are just generally angry, all right.

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Speaker 1: So we got a couple of games left on the docket.

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Speaker 1: Later on today, we'll get to the Buffalo Baltimore. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that is your headline, or that is your main event.

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Speaker 1: That is the cage match to be all to end all.

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Speaker 1: Rams are six and a half point underdogs forty one

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Speaker 1: and a half. Little snow, a little precipitation there in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Can this Rams defense slow down? Jalen hurts in the book,

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Speaker 1: reading AJ Brown enough to go steal a victory. Also,

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Speaker 1: can they plug the holes to keep Saquon Barkley from

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Speaker 1: running for another two hundred yards? Monky, you go first.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough. Now.

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Speaker 3: I would expect that they will keep him und one

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Speaker 3: hundred yards on the ground. It would be the point

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Speaker 3: of emphasis that's been talked about. They've watched the film.

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Speaker 3: They're embarrassed, So pride is going to enable them to

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Speaker 3: keep him under wraps.

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Speaker 4: But can they keep him under wraps.

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Speaker 3: And neutralize everything else that the Eagles want to do

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Speaker 3: on offense? Jalen Hurst running, Jalen Hurst, Thorn, Devonte Smith,

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Speaker 3: AJ Brown, Dallas Goddard.

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Speaker 4: A lot of firepower that you're dealing with.

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Speaker 3: And before you even get to that, can you deal

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Speaker 3: with them in the trenches with that offensive line?

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Speaker 4: Man, it's a tall task.

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Speaker 3: The Rams were feisty and ready, and all of La

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Speaker 3: La Strong was behind them.

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Speaker 4: This is a different bull of wax. It's gonna be

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Speaker 4: hard for him.

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Speaker 2: You hit it right on the head, Buck when you

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Speaker 2: said the Rams. The Eagles just have too many weapons

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Speaker 2: for the Rams to handle. On way back, I think

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Speaker 2: it was week twelve or wherever it was, the Rams

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Speaker 2: lost to the Eagles thirty seven to twenty in LA

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Speaker 2: and Barkley had two fifty five that game in that

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Speaker 2: thirty seven twenty win. However, you look at the Rams defense.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this earlier today. They're averaging or allowing

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Speaker 2: like thirteen points a game over the last four regular

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Speaker 2: season games. With Sean Bickfay, They've turned it around a

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Speaker 2: little bit. I just don't think that they have enough

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Speaker 2: firepower to be depos I really don't.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore one point favorite on the road, fifty one and

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Speaker 1: a half the total reperee crew eleven and three in

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Speaker 1: playoff games go to the under. Just use that as

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Speaker 1: you will. A lot of snow expected chaos, Andy Furman,

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Speaker 1: you get first DIBs.

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Speaker 2: Ravens beat the Bills thirty five to ten in Week four.

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Speaker 2: That was earlier in the season, obviously, But I think

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Speaker 2: the duo of Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson has to

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Speaker 2: give Baltimore the age.

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Speaker 1: It just has to.

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Speaker 2: I think Baltimore wins this game.

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Speaker 4: Make it easy for you. I got Baltimore in this game.

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Speaker 3: I think they eventually wear the Buffalo Bills down in

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Speaker 3: the second half. I think the challenge of dealing with

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Speaker 3: the heavyweight and Derrick Henry slow star for Henry. But

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Speaker 3: I think in the third and fourth quarter you begin

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Speaker 3: to see the big Fillo run roughshot over the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I picked the Eagles Bills for the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: so I'm a stubborn man. I can't go against that. Finally,

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Speaker 1: the National Title Game eight and a half, the number

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Speaker 1: Ohio State favored. Can the Notre Dame. All the prayers

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Speaker 1: from the faithful rise up here? Bucky?

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm gonna go with Notre Dame in

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Speaker 4: this one.

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Speaker 3: And the reason why I'm gonna go is the familiarity

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Speaker 3: between the two teams. They played I think a year

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Speaker 3: ago and Marcus Freeman and Notre Dame did a really

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Speaker 3: good job on Marvin Harrison Junior. I know that Ohio

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Speaker 3: State has a ton of firepower on the perimeter, but

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Speaker 3: there's something about this Notre Dame team. Maybe it's the

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Speaker 3: sweat equity to toughness.

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Speaker 4: I'm going with Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I love Marcus Freeman. I'm a

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Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman guy. I loved to see Notre Dame win,

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Speaker 2: but Canota Dame defense cause they stopped the run of

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Speaker 2: Ohio State. Ohio State Hell Texas the fifty eight rushing yards,

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Speaker 2: they forced two turnovers.

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Speaker 1: It's tough.

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Speaker 2: You're playing the best football of the season right now.

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Speaker 2: I think Ohio State wins, but I'm really, really, really

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Speaker 2: pulling for Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: In other words, you're taking the eight and a half.

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Speaker 1: He's Andy Furmer and Furman FSR. That's Bucky Brooks Bucket.

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Speaker 1: I continue. We love you Andy, You're a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame too. Greetings and welcome in another hour Fox Football Sunday,

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Speaker 1: got to hear a clip of him earlier with Bucky

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Speaker 1: of an old interview with Bob Yucker. You basically just

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Speaker 1: a writer, he is a coach. Man about town. It's

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Speaker 1: our guy. He's Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks. It's going out, Buddy.

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Speaker 1: It's uh where we only have five more games? Uh

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Speaker 1: to break down here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean it's crazy. The season has

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Speaker 3: kind of come down to this. But man, what a

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Speaker 3: fantastic weekend of football. We just got a little appetizer yesterday.

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Speaker 3: The Kansity Chief Houston game wasn't exactly what we wanted.

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Speaker 4: It was. It was close, but it wasn't a lot

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Speaker 4: of excitement.

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Speaker 3: But man, that that that nightcap, that final game was

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Speaker 3: everything that fans enjoy. A lot of scoring, a lot

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Speaker 3: of high power stuff, some selective and opportunistic defense, and

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, man, the underdog wins.

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Speaker 3: And you know, American we love an.

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Speaker 1: Underdog, generally love an underdog, and especially you know, as

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Speaker 1: we were talking about Chris Purfett tags in for our

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Speaker 1: guy Mark On a technical producer, all right, he does

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Speaker 1: work with the lines and talking about narratives and where

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Speaker 1: these things flow, right as as we do U. You know,

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Speaker 1: we we love the the underdog part of the thing.

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Speaker 1: Watch Detroit historically the underdog now the heavyweight with Washington,

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Speaker 1: it was more about people saying, how will Dan Snyder

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Speaker 1: take credit for any of us? Right? Talking about culture

868
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Speaker 1: and changing things out, Magic Johnson now one of your

869
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: faces of the squad, all of those things. But you know,

870
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: a celebration and I'll take it to you know, its

871
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: obvious turn, you know, whoever's in the seat. However, it

872
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: affects their teams because people like to, you know, punch

873
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: at us since the Bears are such a cluster in

874
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: many ways. Uh talked about the coaching hiring process, who's

875
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: really in charge? How great a job is it when

876
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: you've got to deal with who's in charge? All of

877
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: those things. But the Jaden Daniels Caleb Williams referendum on

878
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: full display as that game unfolded as it has from

879
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: much of the year. Right, a lot of side by

880
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: side graphics of their stats, and Caleb had a lot

881
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: of fourth quarter numbers that people would say, look at

882
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: those Oftentimes they were deep, deep in the hole in

883
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: those games, whereas Jaden Daniels five straight one last possession

884
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: wins coming into this game against Detroit and then was

885
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: just magnificent at every turn yesterday, I had a ton

886
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: of answers for anything Glenn tried to throw up with

887
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: that defense.

888
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, he absolutely did.

889
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: And Anglen kind of tried it out a similar game

890
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: plan that he used against Minnesota, and they played a

891
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: lot of Manda Man. They would challenging those guys on

892
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: the outside, and what they discovered is Jayden Daniels understood

893
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 3: what this assignment was. He had the answers to the test,

894
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: and they were in attack mode and they attacked. The

895
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 3: Lion's defense attacked him. They had better people on the outside,

896
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 3: and he had his way.

897
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: And the thing that is.

898
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: I would say remarkable about Jade and Daniels as a

899
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: young quarterback. The poe, the poise, the composure, the confidence

900
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: to make the plays, but also, as you've seen it,

901
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: the judgment, the understanding of the game and when to

902
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: kind of insert himself into the game with some of

903
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 3: these high risk throws and when to just take the

904
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: check down or throw it away. He is playing like

905
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: a ten year vet in a Rocky's body. It's just

906
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: something that is rare to see.

907
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: Sixteen carries, fifty one yards behind Brian Robinson finally healthy,

908
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: fifteen seventy seven and two for him. Eckler gets his

909
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: smattering of touches ten touches over all, four catches out

910
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: of the backfield. The throw and catch for me, if

911
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: we're going to highlight the offensive size of it, I

912
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: mean the McLaurin catch and run right, sprint to daylight,

913
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: duck down and go through. Big play obviously finds the house.

914
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: But that throw and catch to Diami Brown down the

915
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: field where he had the hand in the face and

916
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: still was able to bring the ball in. I'm watching

917
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: it with my daughter, right, the soccer player and indulges

918
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: dad with football as a second screen experience for her.

919
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: She was watching with me and she just looked at go,

920
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: how does he do that? Ago? That's why he's a

921
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: paid professional, and it's now making his bones right. And

922
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: a lot's been made about that draft class and what

923
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: you have and everything else. Finding a second option to McLaurin,

924
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: and that's been Zach Ertz for much of the year,

925
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: but being able to go down the field and make

926
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: that throw and catch, I mean that was one of

927
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: the highlights of the day for me for sure.

928
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, he was on point.

929
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 3: And I think that's the thing when we talk about

930
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: elite quarterbacks and quarterbacks that have the goods is their

931
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: ability to put the ball in the right spot away

932
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: from the defender. So much of what a quarterback is

933
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: supposed to do is he's supposed to communicate with the

934
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: receiver based on the ball placement. I learned as a

935
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: young player in the league. When the quarterback puts the

936
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 3: ball a certain place, he's telling you whether turn where

937
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 3: to move away from the defense.

938
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: So just go with the ball.

939
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: Jade and Daniels ball placement and accuracy is unbelievable. You

940
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: add the fact that he brings another dimension to the

941
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 3: table as a dual threat playmaker who can make it

942
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: happen with his legs or his arm, talent inside and

943
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: outside of the pocket man. He's the ultimate cheat code.

944
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: And I've said this in terms of he could be

945
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: the best dual threat quarterback that we've seen. I'm saying

946
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 3: that because he can give you everything that you want

947
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: to see from the pocket, but he also has to

948
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: build a dazzle as a runner.

949
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: He's slender.

950
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 3: And I know the people talk about Lamar Jackson and

951
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 3: those things, and Mike Tomlin warned us not to make

952
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 3: comparisons to mister Jackson, a three time or maybe soon

953
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: to be three times MVP, But man, how can you

954
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: not make the comparison with Jaden Daniels and Lamar Jackson

955
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: When you watch him play, you look at the frame

956
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: and you just think of what could be.

957
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 4: Man, this dude is terrific. He's an elite player.

958
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: Fact that he recovered as well as he did. From

959
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: let's face it, he got tenderized quite often throughout the year,

960
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: but certainly mid season the rib injury affecting some of

961
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: the throws, and even in that game against the Bears,

962
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: that ill fated thing that really seemed to have jump

963
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: started things. So I guess the Bears have a hand

964
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: in something positive. Is that hail Mary play where he

965
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: couldn't even get it to the end zone, right, compromise, tip, drill,

966
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. But conversation Smith and I had

967
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: the other day, which I'd be curious is to your

968
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: take on this, because you start getting into arguments and

969
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: into the weeds pretty fast? Does he come in at

970
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: like number five? Like I get it's a recency bias,

971
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: it's one year of track record. But if we're talking

972
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: about where we're at and ranking quarterbacks already, Mahomes obviously

973
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: just win baby, We love Joe Burrow, Allan and Lamar

974
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: later will have the war to settle the score. But

975
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: did Jaden Daniels rise up that high that fast?

976
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 4: Why?

977
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: Kenny I tweeted out before the playoffs that I felt like,

978
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 3: of all the playoff quarterbacks, there are four guys that

979
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: were elite, right, It was.

980
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 4: The usual suspects.

981
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 3: It was Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and then Jayden

982
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 3: Daniels was the fourth one included.

983
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 4: In that list. You can check my time this there.

984
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels is different.

985
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 3: He's unique in terms of the poise, the maturity, the

986
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 3: emotional control to the exhibits on top.

987
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 4: Of all the skills that he has.

988
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: What's going to be a fascinating conversation and one of

989
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: the things that you have to talk about we talked

990
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 3: about the Chicago Bears coaching search, is did the Bears

991
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 3: take the right quarterback at number one. Everyone is going

992
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: to pin Kayla williams failures early season on the coaching

993
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: staff and those things.

994
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 4: But these dudes will be linked.

995
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: Forever number one and number two, and they had started that.

996
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels has on Kayla Williams a lot of ground

997
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: to make up for the number one overall pick.

998
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you look at the way they operated it,

999
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: and this is, you know, not to make it a

1000
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Bears conversation, but when they promoted Thomas Brown to head coach,

1001
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was the most foolhardy thing that you

1002
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: could do. Not that he didn't necessarily earn the respect

1003
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: of everybody in the building. And you wanted to do that,

1004
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: but you'd literally just started to find some continuity in

1005
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: your offense. And now you're tasking a guy less than

1006
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: two and a half weeks later to go from one

1007
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: job to the next job to the head job. Right

1008
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: as he's got the communication and the offense is showing

1009
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: some semblance of consistency, now he's got to go run

1010
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: Everything seems kind.

1011
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: Of a lot. Yeah, Yeah, it's a lot.

1012
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 3: I mean it's a lot to be able to handle

1013
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: and navigate just trying to figure out a way to

1014
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: call the game, trying to make the quarterback comfortable while

1015
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 3: also having all the other response abilities that hey, coach

1016
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: must manage. Man, it's crazy, you know it is. It

1017
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: is a crazy deal to see. And that's why this

1018
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: coaching search with all of these guys, it's gonna be

1019
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: fascinating to uts.

1020
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: It has been a crazy run. Obviously vrabel installed had

1021
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: his presser and everything else. But it's funny because certainly

1022
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: the scars are there in Chicago as they try to

1023
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: find another head coach, but also people with Patrick Mahomes

1024
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: winning again, it's the convenient narrative of the twenty seventeen draft. Again,

1025
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: if you were going based on all evaluations, the guy

1026
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: that would have ended up in Chicago was Deshaun Watson.

1027
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: It was never Patrick Mahomes. And every person that wants

1028
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: to run that narrative eventually just needs to go and

1029
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: put their computer away and go play video games or

1030
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: do something else, because it's convenient narrative to go back

1031
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: and say, well, yeah, I mean you could have had Mahomes, Like, yeah,

1032
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: you could have, but reason did anybody have Patrick Mahomes

1033
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: as the guy?

1034
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 4: Well, no one knew that.

1035
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: Everyone was fascinated by the stuff and aver vision. And

1036
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: since you will have all these people talking about yeah,

1037
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 3: we knew who's going to be that. But I would

1038
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: say Patrick Mahomes perfect storm, right, Andy Reid's track record with.

1039
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: All quarterbacks lick up.

1040
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 3: But that's the other cour Aj Feeley like, that's what

1041
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: he that's what he did. You're right, And it's the

1042
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: same thing with Kayler Williams and Jaden Daniels. Would it

1043
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 3: play out the same Cliff Kingsbury who had a history

1044
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: with mobile quarterbacks that were unique dual threats. Look at

1045
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: the work that he did with Caler Murray, offensive rookie

1046
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 3: on his watch, multiple time Pro bowler under his watch.

1047
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 4: That stuff matters. The experience matters, and.

1048
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 3: The Bears could have had that guy calling place for

1049
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: Kayler Williams but didn't work out.

1050
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: No, but that's just it right hiring processes Again, That's

1051
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: just where we get back to do you trust who's

1052
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: in charge, who's picking the groceries and setting the table.

1053
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: All of those things matter before you sit down, say

1054
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: grace and start glutton eye. So the apples to apples

1055
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: thing is never a real conversation. As much as we

1056
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: try to make it one to one. Jaden Daniels comes

1057
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: in there into Chicago, and look, it might have gone smoother.

1058
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I've watched enough football and enough

1059
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: organizations to know that there is a vast difference of

1060
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: how they're run and why you're looking for guys. Why

1061
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 1: dan Quinn worked after getting fired in Dallas, right, why

1062
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't come back. Zimmer becomes the guy, and after

1063
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: what he did against the Packers, he gets the head

1064
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: coaching job, and you're building culture, building things around. As

1065
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: you cite the experience with Kingsbury versus unknowns, I mean,

1066
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: the waldron Hier didn't make any sense at the time,

1067
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: and it certainly made less as you watched it unfold.

1068
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: Say nothing of eber Flues. That's a whole other thing.

1069
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: He'll be a fine defensive cordon or somewhere. But you know,

1070
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: you're just assuming this guy was going to be the

1071
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: elixir that was going to fix everything. It takes a culture,

1072
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: it takes a squad, It takes a roster and a

1073
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: coaching structure to really make things work in this league.

1074
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: And I don't think that can be understated and underscored enough.

1075
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes all of those things, and I think,

1076
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 3: what's interesting and we're finding this out, and I'm hopeful

1077
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: and listening to the fallout from some of these processes

1078
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: that people are going to focus more on the culture

1079
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 3: and the leadership things. I think I heard the clip

1080
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 3: from your show with Jason Smith and how people are

1081
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 3: asking more leadership questions, how you're you going to handle

1082
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: certain situations and problems. Because one of the things that

1083
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure you are hearing, all of the losing teams

1084
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 3: all point to, hey, we need more discipline, we need

1085
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: more structure.

1086
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 4: We get guys coming in late. Guys aren't doing this stuff.

1087
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 4: Guys aren't studying.

1088
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if my guys are all the way

1089
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 3: bought in and the coaches are allowing it to happen.

1090
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 4: But they're finding them, but they're not taking action. Mike

1091
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 4: McDaniel saying, what can I do? I can only find them.

1092
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 3: No, you can lead them, you can impact them in

1093
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: different ways. You can take their playing time away. So

1094
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: there does appear to be an emphasis on culture more

1095
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: than play calling. That's why I can't wait to see

1096
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 3: how these dance cards fill out. I don't think it's

1097
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 3: gonna be as many play calls as we once thought,

1098
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: we're gonna be guys that end up getting some of

1099
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 3: these top jobs.

1100
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then again it's not Chicago centric. But let's

1101
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: face it, a lot of media breath heading there because

1102
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: of well, just what a cluster that it's been on

1103
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: the field and off glimpses of hope, which you know,

1104
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: I've always said with the Shawshank gives you both sides

1105
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 1: of the hope glass. I try to be the positive guy,

1106
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: but you know, Red Red talks about how dangerous it is,

1107
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: one of the great lines from Morgan Freeman. But it's

1108
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: just that idea of as much as you want the

1109
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: shiny thing and think that a coordinator can come and

1110
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 1: fix it, and maybe he could, Like in that clip,

1111
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: My part of it was pushing back saying that the

1112
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: leadership part of the equation is very apt. If a

1113
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: person has never been a head coach before, I mean,

1114
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: it's app for any of them, certainly if I mean

1115
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: players in Chicago were having those conversations in the media

1116
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: in week five before Eberflus was ever fired. Go back

1117
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: and listen to some of their local appearances. They pulled

1118
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: no punches the stuff down in Miami. Some of the

1119
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: stuff coming out with the Jets. Notice it's those same

1120
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: squads Jacksonville. You had that weird ass zoom call with

1121
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: Shod Khan and Trent Balkey. Yeah, if the guy comes

1122
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: in and makes the right pitch as he's sitting there

1123
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: on the zoom call right next to him and he's

1124
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: looking at him like wait what. So I mean all

1125
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: of that to say that, Yeah, you're trying to change

1126
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: business is conducted differently than it was back in the day,

1127
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: and you're trying to make sure you're more buttoned up.

1128
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: So while there are euphemisms that we don't like, and

1129
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: I use the term synergy as a as an example

1130
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: last hour, it's a very true thing of all right,

1131
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: you may not like the buzzwords. You may not like

1132
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: the terminology. Doesn't make the concept any and relegated to obsolescence.

1133
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 4: No, and you know, no one likes the buzzwords. No

1134
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 4: one wants to hear about it. But that's really what

1135
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 4: it talks about.

1136
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard Mikey Sandra Steele's interview

1137
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 3: after the game and he tries to show out, yeah,

1138
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 3: I mean he just talked about the brotherhood, right, talked

1139
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 3: about the Brotherhood in Washington, and it's kind of corny

1140
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 3: when people talk about it, particularly at the pro level,

1141
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 3: like the chemistry, the connectivity, the bonds that you have in.

1142
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 4: The locker room. But dan Quinn learned about that.

1143
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 3: He understood the value that from his first time in Atlanta,

1144
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: how they were able to us that that brotherhood that

1145
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 3: bond to go to a Super Bowl, and ultimately how

1146
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 3: the things that transferred into Super Bowl fractured the brotherhood

1147
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: going forward, and how he had to make amends for

1148
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 3: it by making sure he put more of an emphasis

1149
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 3: on being accountable, not only holding players accountable, being accountable

1150
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: to your own shortcomings as a head coach, and how

1151
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 3: that's being transformative. And when you hear a young player,

1152
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: a rookie player talk about the older Vests and how

1153
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 3: they came in and they took them in and they

1154
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 3: talked about the culture and doing all that other stuff.

1155
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 3: To me, that's fascinating because dan Quinn's only been there

1156
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 3: a year. So when they're talking about a culture and

1157
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: how the Vets took the younger guys in, he had

1158
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: to quickly get everybody on the same page and everybody

1159
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 3: kind of viewing the game the same and having the

1160
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: same value system. That's a tremendous job by a leader

1161
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 3: to get everyone to buy in that quickly.

1162
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Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks on Mike Carmon here, Fox Football Sunday,

1163
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. As we continue a couple of games

1164
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: to look at for later on today, the re ferendum,

1165
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: the straw poll of I don't know what this game

1166
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: really means in NFL history. As we talk about the

1167
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: night cap, we'll do that and we'll continue a talking

1168
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Speaker 1: divisional round here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, welcome back

1169
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: in Fox Football Sunday. Here Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carmon

1170
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: alongside Bucky Brooks. Hey, football fans, keep it locked in

1171
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: all day long. We've got you covered for the second

1172
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: half of these divisional games, but coming up in thirty

1173
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: five minutes from now, as they are every Sunday morning,

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Speaker 1: ten o'clock Easter, seven o'clock Pacific, It's Countdown to Kickoff,

1175
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: presented by bet MGM, Ryan No, Jeff Schwartz, Professional Better

1176
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Speaker 1: Bill Krackenberger. They've got you covered three hours before kickoff.

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Speaker 1: Every Sunday morning, listen to Countdown to Kickoff, presented by

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Speaker 1: bet MGM. Right here on Fox Sports Radio and the

1179
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. I saw one of Bill's tweets last night

1180
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: immediately talking about how the books might have gotten beaten

1181
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: up here there wherever by the public, but all those parlays,

1182
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: futures and everything else on the Detroit Lions help get

1183
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: them back in the black, as it were. Bucky Brooks.

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00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's a look, I would hate to live

1185
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 3: that life, like living on the edge. Just just so

1186
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 3: many little things that happen at the end of the

1187
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 3: games to drive you crazy.

1188
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 1: You know, like taking a safety in that first game. Yeah,

1189
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: nine and a half was the number there, Bucky.

1190
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 3: Brooks just just giving away stuff, and I just can

1191
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 3: see the betters all around the country, like.

1192
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,959
Speaker 4: No, what are we doing?

1193
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: That also was a from a football standpoint. I can't

1194
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: say that I necessarily understood it either. You know, I

1195
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: get the run around and loss of eighteen and all.

1196
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it to a point, but yeah,

1197
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: it's it certainly did not sit well. What You've already

1198
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: got people questioning all sorts of officiating stuff in that game. Anyway,

1199
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Speaker 1: Now you get the number thrown in to where the

1200
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: booth has to allude to it, they make the Obliga

1201
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: torri Al Michael's reference. But Bucky, as we're talking about

1202
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: these divisional games, we'd be remiss. We've got our guy,

1203
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: Chris Prefet with us. It's still raw, still coming off

1204
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: of this and all the narratives flowing. I know he

1205
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: was live last night Pride to Detroit at Chris Purfett

1206
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: where you find him. We've got a guy that covers

1207
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: this team inside and out, day to day, Bucky. So

1208
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: we throw it up to Chris. Initial response positive negative,

1209
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: season wise, I mean, how do you walk away from

1210
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: that one? It's tough.

1211
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Speaker 6: It's tough because I feel like you just had one

1212
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 6: of your best seasons out there. You had, you know,

1213
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 6: people talking about the best division in football, go and

1214
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 6: you know, collectively zero and three in the playoffs show yeah, yeah, yeah.

1215
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Speaker 6: I think all all the teams look terrible, which is

1216
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 6: the really shocking part. And for the Lions, it's like

1217
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 6: you three things killed him. There is number one. Injuries

1218
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 6: finally did catch up to you. And like I know

1219
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 6: we always say injuries are an excuse, but I'm sorry,

1220
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 6: Like I want someone to tell me who Maurice Norris was.

1221
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 6: No disrespecting Mariice Nors but like we're down the Lions

1222
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 6: are down to that stub of it A Meek Robertson

1223
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 6: going out in the third play is the kind of

1224
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 6: bag of luck the Lions have had all year. So

1225
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 6: suddenly you don't have the personnel to rush for, you

1226
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 6: don't have the personnel to blitz. You just you have

1227
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 6: a personnel to do nothing except just get beat by

1228
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 6: a team who's pitching lights out and the Commanders, who

1229
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 6: did play an extremely stellar game on top of that,

1230
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 6: Jared Goff, you know what was it, twenty one points

1231
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 6: over off of turn turnovers, just one of his worst

1232
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 6: games in Detroit since probably the twenty twenty one season.

1233
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Speaker 6: And then yeah, just some very uncharacteristic mistakes, a lot

1234
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 6: of penalties, and the twelve men on the field like

1235
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 6: just mentally the worst game they've probably had, and it

1236
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 6: just comes at probably the worst time. And that's the playoffs.

1237
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Speaker 6: That's the playoffs, and that's how you lose, and you

1238
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 6: kind of you kind of struggle with it considering all

1239
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 6: the good you had in the season. But you know,

1240
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Speaker 6: I I think the team still in a good spot.

1241
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 6: They're going to probably lose both one or both of

1242
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 6: their coordinators and just going to have to figure out

1243
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 6: how to bring this back the next year.

1244
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know a couple of things.

1245
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 3: When I think about it, it was their worst game,

1246
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 3: worst performance, or whatever. I will say that some of

1247
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: the clues were available in the Minnesota game when it

1248
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 3: looks when you look at how the Washington Commanders attacked

1249
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 3: them for all of the credit that Aaron Glynn got

1250
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 3: received for knocking off Sam Donald in Minnesota Vikings, I

1251
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 3: had colleagues who told me, if you really look at

1252
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 3: the tape, there were guys running open. Yeah, it's just

1253
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 3: that Sam Donald was getting hit and couldn't get the

1254
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: ball to them. And what we saw was a better

1255
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 3: quarterback take advantage of some of the openings when it

1256
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 3: came to the vulnerable secondary for the Lions. The other

1257
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 3: thing that I wanted, and no one can ever like

1258
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: quantify this, but the distraction of conducting multiple interviews throughout

1259
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Speaker 3: the course of a practice week.

1260
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Speaker 4: And I know that people.

1261
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Speaker 3: Say that you can handle it, it's virtual, what's the

1262
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: big deal, But man, it's just hard when we talk

1263
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 3: about playoff focus and being locked in and all of

1264
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 3: these things that coaches are asking players to do, but

1265
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 3: the coaches themselves can't do. I have to think that

1266
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 3: it's not a coincidence that on both sides of the

1267
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 3: ball that we saw things that we haven't seen from

1268
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 3: the lines in terms of execution in those things, even

1269
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 3: though the offense was executing at a high level, the

1270
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: fun stuff was there, the quarterback didn't play great. I

1271
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 3: do wonder how much of the constant pulling of the

1272
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 3: coordinators in these different directions with interviews might have impacted

1273
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 3: their ability to do their job on Saturday night.

1274
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Speaker 1: It is.

1275
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Speaker 2: It's a valid question.

1276
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Speaker 6: I don't want to doubt anything about the guys, but

1277
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 6: I know Dan Campbell took a lot of it on

1278
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 6: his own shoulders about not having it ready, and I

1279
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 6: mean it ultimately falls up to him right at the

1280
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 6: end of the day. Like I do, think there is

1281
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 6: something to the interviews. I will say on a least

1282
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 6: positive note, and I was talking about this with with

1283
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 6: Mike Dirry with during the break, is that you at

1284
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 6: least saw even more out of Jami or Gibbs last

1285
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 6: night that makes you just really really excited for the

1286
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 6: rest of this man's career.

1287
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: Bucky already got him as your keeper running back over

1288
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: there or what I mean.

1289
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 3: He's an easy one to keep and what I'm really

1290
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 3: what I really like about all this is like we

1291
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 3: had all the smarter yardies tell us for about a

1292
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 3: four year period that you can't go heavy with running

1293
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 3: backs and don't do this with running backs and why

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Speaker 3: would you do it?

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Speaker 4: And I just find it so fascinating.

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Speaker 3: That Jamie Gibbs, who was scoffed at people, said what

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Speaker 3: are they doing? Twelfth overall pick and he by far

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Speaker 3: was the best player on.

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Speaker 4: The field for the Lions, like he is terrific.

1300
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Speaker 3: And then when you go with Sakwon Barkley and Derrick

1301
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 3: Henry and Josh Jay all those guys in the playoffs,

1302
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 3: the running back position is real and how essential it

1303
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 3: is to have someone that can balance out the heavy.

1304
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Speaker 4: Load on the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Because for all the things that I love about Jerry Golf,

1306
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 3: I also know that you don't want to put it

1307
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 3: on his plate. Fifty plus pass attempts in a game

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01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 3: and he didn't have his best game, but being able

1309
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: to lean into the running game kind of alleviate some

1310
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: of the pressure on him to have his a game

1311
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Speaker 3: each and every time. Did he trusts out on the field.

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Speaker 1: What was the immediate response Chris with the Jared Goff

1313
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: side of it. You can get to the Gibs, but

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Speaker 1: certainly the Jared Goff. I gotta imagine the chat room

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01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: was not safe for work with.

1316
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 6: Nice of all, I think I think most people do

1317
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 6: focus on Aaron Glenn among Lions fans, and they've not

1318
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 6: been happy with him for quite a while now. And

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01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 6: I've kind of argued usually on his side, just because

1320
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 6: like twenty twenty three he just did not have cornerbacks

1321
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 6: and this year like it's just been, you know, a

1322
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 6: mash unit on defense. But on Jared Goff, like Bucky's right,

1323
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 6: the signs were kind of there with Jared Goff. Both

1324
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 6: the forty nine Ers game and the Vikings game, Jared

1325
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 6: Goff had multiple turnovers and some really weird decisions. I

1326
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 6: think some a lot of Lions fans and some people

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01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 6: in lines media kind of brushed off because Jared Goff

1328
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 6: also had a five turnover game against Houston that he

1329
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 6: won this year, right, Like, you've seen good Jared Goff

1330
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 6: and we kind of had some bad Jared Goff that

1331
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 6: kind of that the team was able to still win

1332
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 6: in spite of. But I think you're onto something like

1333
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 6: you don't want Jared Goff throwing the ball fifty times.

1334
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Speaker 6: That's how you lost the Tampa Bay game early in

1335
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 6: the year, where it was all on Jared Goff's shoulders.

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Speaker 6: And we know that it looked like there was definitely

1337
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 6: points in the game where he was trying to stretch

1338
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 6: the field and maybe that's to try to help set

1339
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 6: up for the for a run game that the Washington

1340
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 6: was starting to clamp down on, but like it just

1341
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 6: was not working. They the Saints still was playing out

1342
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 6: of his mind and like you just you had Washington

1343
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 6: defenders just really clamping down on anything and any kind

1344
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 6: of contested ball was just going to be a threat

1345
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 6: and just went the wrong way for him. Yeah, we'd

1346
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 6: some real questions.

1347
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had the inn and the yang of friends

1348
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: of the show. Smith and I had a chance to

1349
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: talk to Sandra's still after the title game last year

1350
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: with Michigan and so all positive things for him. And

1351
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: then we had David Montgomery on weeks ago before his

1352
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: injury and Jason pitched him on a promotion with a

1353
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: Burger joint what he's vegetarian. So you know, it's the

1354
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: yin and yang of things. And generally when Jason really

1355
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: hypes somebody up, we go the other way, so I'd

1356
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: fade him if I were to go through there. Thanks

1357
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: Chris for the inside. I'm sure you'll be leaned on

1358
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: as the day goes on. Lots to come out of

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01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 1: this one.

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Speaker 6: Maybe maybe Steve Hartman will let me talk. We'll see.

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01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 6: It's always I get three words and then all of

1362
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 6: a sudden, it just immediately slammed the door.

1363
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: Well, Steve has been known to do that. Isaac started laughing.

1364
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: He just did a spit take over in the updates studio,

1365
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: So why don't we go for him.

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01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 7: I'd see what he's got to say this morning. Hello, Hello,

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01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 7: Hello everyone, not breaking news. Steve Hartman will not let

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01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 7: anyone not named Steve Hartman talk.

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01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he actually draws breath.

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01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 6: It's it's something that he's perfected, it coming in through

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01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 6: the nose.

1372
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: Oh, is that it?

1373
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:03,959
Speaker 2: Yes?

1374
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: And lucky you got any other theories as a prime

1375
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: athlete among us?

1376
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 4: No theories. I don't have any theories. I can't understand it.

1377
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 7: Who knows he is considered a physiological phenomenal. In fact,

1378
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 7: the Central Intelligence Agency a few people know this. In fact,

1379
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 7: I probably shouldn't be telling.

1380
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: You I tell you got to look out.

1381
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 7: They actually tried to utilize him as someone who could

1382
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 7: perform underwater intelligence. World about that for them because of that,

1383
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 7: but he wouldn't stop talking, so they eventually had to

1384
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 7: scrap the project. Someone who's not a team, who's not

1385
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 7: scrapping the project. The twenty twenty four Washington Commanders as

1386
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 7: On Saturday night, they advanced to the NFC Championship Game

1387
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,759
Speaker 7: for the first time in thirty three years by beating

1388
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 7: the Detroit Lions forty five to thirty one. That ends

1389
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 7: the longest active conference championship game drought in the NFL.

1390
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 7: Commander's rookie quarterback Jaden Daniels twenty two of thirty one

1391
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 7: for two ninety nine, two touchdown passes, no interceptions. Washington

1392
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 7: will visit the winner of today's Eagles Rams game in

1393
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 7: the NFC Championship Game. Philled Oltia host the Rams today

1394
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 7: at three pm Eastern. Earlier Saturday, the Kansas City Chiefs

1395
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 7: defeated the Houston Texans twenty three to fourteen. Despite the

1396
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 7: following Houston out gaining the Chiefs by one hundred and

1397
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 7: twenty four yards. Houston had four more first downs than

1398
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 7: the Chiefs, and they also had a seven minute advantage

1399
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,879
Speaker 7: in time of possession, but despite that, the Chiefs advanced

1400
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 7: to their seventh straight AFC Championship game. They will host

1401
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 7: either the Buffalo Bills or Baltimore Ravens. Those two teams

1402
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,799
Speaker 7: faced one another in Buffalo at six thirty Eastern. Finally,

1403
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,879
Speaker 7: this one's for you, Mike Fox Sports Jay Glazer reporting

1404
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 7: late Saturday night that the Chicago Bears will interview former

1405
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 7: NFL running back Eddie George for their head coaching job today.

1406
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,759
Speaker 7: George has been the head coach at FCS Tennessee State

1407
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 7: the past four seasons, with a record of twenty four

1408
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 7: and twenty two, including nine and four this past season.

1409
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 2: Back to you.

1410
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: Banks, Ilo, ed Isaac Ohencrod. You know, il, he's one

1411
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 1: of those guys I claim, fuck you. You'll appreciate this.

1412
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: You know it's White Sox Hall of Famer Tom Seaver

1413
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: White Sox Hall of Famer Ken Griffey Junior, Northwestern University's

1414
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: very own. Eddie George got that executive NBA, so we're

1415
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,879
Speaker 1: gonna gonna claim him. I got Brett Musberger on my side,

1416
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: Warren Batty and Margaret and me, Me and all those luminaries.

1417
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: Oh and Swimmer. Now that Goosebumps is a hit obviously, friends,

1418
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 1: But you know, I keep on going down the line, Colbert.

1419
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I could do this for days, which is

1420
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: why they don't need my money, because these guys have

1421
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: plenty more of it. Julia Louis Drivius, she had a

1422
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: kid on a basketball team. I mean all of those

1423
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: to say that. Coaching jobs though, Bucky, just to punctuate

1424
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: that one. As we roll through, I mean Detroit one

1425
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: or both coordinators or do they stay? Wow? And Johnson

1426
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,879
Speaker 1: gonna go to the Raiders After that very weird exchange

1427
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: between Kevin Burkhart and Tom Brady.

1428
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 3: Oh, they were talking about all this stuff. You know,

1429
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 3: I wonder because you know, does he want to take

1430
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 3: on the challenge of the Raiders. The thing about the

1431
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 3: Raiders that he won't have He doesn't have a quarterback

1432
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: and there's not really a path to getting a quarterback

1433
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 3: in the draft. Does that mean you're gonna take on

1434
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 3: someone in free agency? Like everything is great until you

1435
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: don't have someone who's the trigger man. And so I

1436
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 3: think Ben Johnson has to be very careful with the

1437
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 3: job that he takes. But if he wants full control,

1438
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 3: to be able to bring in the personnel man and

1439
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 3: those things. The Raiders are certainly going to be an option,

1440
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 3: but there may be some other options out there for him.

1441
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 3: But I'm fascinated to see what he does. I do

1442
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 3: believe Aaron Glenn is gone. Things appear to line up

1443
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 3: like maybe he gets the Saints' job given his relationship

1444
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 3: and that stuff there time of till. We'll find out

1445
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 3: quickly though, because they're out so they have plenty of

1446
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 3: time to interview.

1447
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: Well, they can get back to interviewing. Now, Ben Johnson

1448
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: down to Jacksonville and be the guy that unleashes the beast,

1449
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 1: you know, the generational thing that we heard about Trevor Lawrence.

1450
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 3: Maybe so, I mean, I certainly believe that he's gonna

1451
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 3: be in play. They have their eyes on him. Can

1452
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 3: they get it done? What exactly is Ben Johnson looking

1453
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 3: for as a head coach? All of those things will

1454
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 3: impact how this goes, you know, because if he really

1455
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 3: is set on having some level of control when it

1456
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 3: comes to personnel, how he builds the team and those things, yes,

1457
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 3: you know it's gonna be a big part of it.

1458
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's part of one of the

1459
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: many hats you wear. But is he a guy with

1460
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: the juice enough to come in and force the issue

1461
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: If he wants to pluck someone from say the Personnel

1462
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: Department of Detroit to help run things, look.

1463
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 3: It certainly could be a big part of the conversation

1464
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 3: and situation to make sure he has the people that

1465
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 3: he wants. And with Ben Johnson to dame that you're

1466
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,839
Speaker 3: gonna hear link to him as Lance Newmark, the assistant

1467
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 3: general manager for the Washington Commander, spent a long time

1468
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 3: in Detroit. They could be a package. We'll see, We'll

1469
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 3: see how this thing plays out.

1470
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: And in my self serving way, the Jason Wright who

1471
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: is running things and helped steady the ship there in Washington,

1472
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: now out of that job and into his next ventures.

1473
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: He was posting videos about what it was like to

1474
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: just watch as a fan, because it's far more enjoyable

1475
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: as a fan than having to watch that in a booth,

1476
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: living and dying with either each of those decisions, you know,

1477
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 1: knowing every one of those decisions is off a decision

1478
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: you had made. At Bucky Brooks where you find him

1479
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: on Twitter, read them foxsports dot com at fl dot com,

1480
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: see him all over the place, Man of the people.

1481
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: Find me over at Swollandome. You find Bucky also on

1482
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: Instagram at Big Play Football. I'm at Swollen Dome there

1483
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: as well. As we continue, we'll turn our attention back

1484
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 1: into today's games. See are we done with the coaching carousel?

1485
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: Because you know the hot seat could rev up here?

1486
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: Can it rev up after Monday night? We'll see. We'll

1487
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: talk about it next to on Fox.

1488
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: Oh.

1489
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: I love the conversations the halls. We talk Divisional round

1490
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: two more games later on today. Welcome back in Fox

1491
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: Football Sunday, Mike Carmen, Bucky Brooks with you coming up

1492
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: in ten minutes. You got Countdown to kick Off presented

1493
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,480
Speaker 1: by bet MGM. They'll talk about all of the angles

1494
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: that you need to look at. Prop Bets parlays the

1495
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: fallout from yesterear yesterday and trying to put some numbers

1496
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: around it when you talk about the safety in the

1497
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: Chiefs Texans game nine and a half, the number nine,

1498
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: the finish and obviously the fallout for the books and

1499
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: better coming off of the big Washington upset last night.

1500
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: But Bucky, we've got three more huge games coming up

1501
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: over the course of the weekend out here in Los Angeles,

1502
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: the feel good story of the Rams winning last week. Obviously,

1503
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 1: if I had a nickel for every time now since

1504
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 1: last night, the meme of I'll see you in two

1505
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: weeks between O'Connell and Campbell, I'd be a wealthy man.

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01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: Might have a little island of my own at this

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01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:31,839
Speaker 1: point coming off of that. But Matthew Stafford and that

1508
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: that offense against the Philly d We've talked about their

1509
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: back seven quite a bit. We know the the Eagles

1510
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: always strong in the trenches, but looking at Nick Sirianni

1511
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: and the aj Brown thing was interesting. I know you

1512
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: and Andy talked about if folks can find that in

1513
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: the podcast, but trying to get that offense and passing

1514
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: game jump started. Is there any possibility? And he's won

1515
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 1: a lot to the where they be a little bit

1516
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: of with Sirianni and a late addition to the coaching carousel.

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01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 3: Man, I just can't imagine someone who has won. I mean,

1518
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 3: this dude just wont a ton of games. I think

1519
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 3: he's at seventy percent.

1520
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: Oh, it's ridiculous. Yes, it's like the questions we have

1521
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: with Ryan Day right with Ohio State I mean, whether

1522
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: it's the fringe or whatever.

1523
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just can't imagine them wanting to move

1524
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 3: on from him.

1525
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 4: He's quirky or whatever. But it works in Philly, and.

1526
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 3: Even the I would say the dysfunction that appears on

1527
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 3: the surface is not It is kind of part of

1528
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 3: the city, right. It's just very contentious and confrontational and different.

1529
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 3: And he doesn't mind embracing the locker room that has

1530
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 3: strong personalities, that they go back and forth and they

1531
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 3: do some of those things and it's worked for them.

1532
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 3: Is that a Kelly No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1533
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 3: not even at all.

1534
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 4: I didn't even think about chipping a thing.

1535
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 3: But I just think it's interesting to see how they

1536
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 3: do have some of these things that show up, yet

1537
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 3: they continue to play well. Like all of that stuff

1538
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 3: is pretty fascinating when you think about it on the

1539
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 3: bigger picture.

1540
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: Now, they are one of the more fascinating squads for

1541
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts a lot of questions about his ability to

1542
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: get these guys involved, because you certainly do have plenty

1543
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: of weapons at your disposal, and let alone just doing

1544
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: the two step to Saquon Barkley all day long. Matthew

1545
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:28,520
Speaker 1: Stafford an uneven year, but with the injuries to wide receivers,

1546
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: but Hookin Nakua certainly something special. Can they get Cooper Cup?

1547
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: Can he be a hero just for one day against

1548
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: that Philly secondary to give them a chance.

1549
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 3: They have a chance now the cole Weather is going

1550
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 3: to be a fact of the big thing for the

1551
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 3: Rams is can they slow down Saquon Barkley and make

1552
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 3: it a game where Jalen Hurst has to throw and

1553
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 3: he has to throw thirty to thirty five times.

1554
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 4: If they can do that, they have a chance.

1555
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 3: The big thing for the Eagles is taking away Karen

1556
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 3: Williams in the running game and making this a drop

1557
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 3: back passing game in a way to put some double

1558
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 3: team selectively on Poka Nakula and Cooper Cup and crucier moments.

1559
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 3: If they can do that, then they'll have their weight

1560
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 3: with him. But the Eagles are a better team. But

1561
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 3: the Rams are hot man. They found that identity. Their

1562
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 3: young defense is playing well. They're kind of feisty and scrappy,

1563
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 3: and so if they allow the Rams to hang in

1564
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 3: there the first half, you don't want to deal with

1565
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford in the fourth court.

1566
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: Always enjoy the word scrappy finding its way into the

1567
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: conversation Marcus Freeman against Ryan Day in the National Title game.

1568
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: We talked about it a little bit last hour. I did.

1569
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: I picked the Notre Dame of Fighting Irish as well.

1570
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: So I ask you for Buffalo and for Baltimore. Who

1571
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: is going to be the butt of all the hot

1572
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 1: take nonsense as the Bloviators take the air later on

1573
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: tonight and tomorrow.

1574
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, there's gonna be a lot of

1575
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 3: conversation about Lamar Jackson, and you know, I think did

1576
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 3: have to wait until next week before we have a

1577
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 3: referendum on who he is and what his career is like.

1578
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 3: To me, I think this is a hard one for

1579
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 3: Josh Allen. They don't have the same talent and even

1580
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 3: though the second game would be different than the first one,

1581
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 3: thirty five to ten was a resounding defeat, and I

1582
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 3: know it was in Baltimore, but they get a chance

1583
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 3: to play it on the road.

1584
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 4: But I think the talent shows up.

1585
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 3: This would be the game where they miss Stefan Diggs,

1586
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 3: where we see the lack of premiermeter talent show up.

1587
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 3: Because right now the Ravens have more talent than the

1588
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bill.

1589
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: See if you get a little more from Rashad Bateman.

1590
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: Some of those secondary options there, Ze Flowers still listed

1591
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: as doubtful. We'll get an update as we roll forward.

1592
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: I picked the Bills in the Eagle, so I got

1593
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: to stick with it and sweat out whether I'm just

1594
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: picking losers anymore. Bucky, enjoy the games. We'll talk to

1595
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: you next week. Countdown to kick off his next on Fox.