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Speaker 5: It is Wednesday, September twenty seventh, twenty twenty three, season nineteen,
Speaker 5: episode number forty. Welcome to the late's edition of The Break.
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Speaker 5: We're bringing the energy today. It'll be we will start
Speaker 5: getting you guys ready for Cowboys versus Patriots, and we're
Speaker 5: moving past all that negativity from last weekend. It's time
Speaker 5: to move forward and we'll see where this goes. Hopefully,
Speaker 5: hopefully the Cowboys learned their lesson last week was a
Speaker 5: nice shot in the mouth, and hopefully they wake up
Speaker 5: and get themselves back on track this week. Brian in
Speaker 5: the show today is going to give us a good
Speaker 5: overview of Cowboys offense for No Atriots defense. We're going
Speaker 5: to talk a little bit about some things that went
Speaker 5: right last weekend. We didn't really do that this week.
Speaker 5: On Monday and Tuesday, we spent a lot of time
Speaker 5: on what went wrong, but there were a couple of
Speaker 5: things that were really good from the Cowboys standpoint in
Speaker 5: that game. On Sunday, we'll detail some of those. And
Speaker 5: let's start first though, with updates on where we are
Speaker 5: from the standpoint of injuries. Patrick Walkers through what we're
Speaker 5: what we're looking for this week, what we who are
Speaker 5: the players that we need to keep an eye on
Speaker 5: with regards to injuries.
Speaker 7: Well, we're talking about first and foremost of three starting
Speaker 7: offensive linemen Tyron Smith, Tyler Battish and Zach Martin.
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones.
Speaker 7: This morning, he was tight lipped about it on one
Speaker 7: O five three FM The Fan. Mike McCarthy was tight
Speaker 7: lipped about it in the press conference on you yesterday,
Speaker 7: and I expect he will be again this morning. Which
Speaker 7: waiting to see what happens. Today's gonna be the first
Speaker 7: week of practice, a first day of practice, I'm sorry
Speaker 7: for Week four against the Patriots. We'll see who's expected
Speaker 7: to do what and who does what. But there's a
Speaker 7: chance if you go back to what Stephen Jones told
Speaker 7: one O five three FM The Fan a couple of
Speaker 7: days ago, it is possible that the Cowboys see a
Speaker 7: whole offensive line going in against the Patriots. He did
Speaker 7: kind of give a caveat and saying, you know, let's
Speaker 7: see how the week goes. Obviously that goes without saying,
Speaker 7: but he did make that clear. But he did say,
Speaker 7: quote unquote, there's a possibility. So I do expect that,
Speaker 7: you know, multiple guys on that three man front we're
Speaker 7: talking about Tyler, Tyron and and Zach will get some work,
Speaker 7: maybe as early as today. But we'll see as far
Speaker 7: as any other injuries, they're all in the same breath
Speaker 7: right now. We're just waiting and see and but those
Speaker 7: are the top three guys. Obviously, Donald came back last week,
Speaker 7: and you know, he had his ups and downs. Make sense,
Speaker 7: he hadn't played, you know, since he suffered the CAF
Speaker 7: strain in early in training camp. But yeah, so offensive lineman,
Speaker 7: we saw what happened when they were out. Offensive line
Speaker 7: didn't lose the game, but it impacted McCarthy's play callings.
Speaker 7: So hopefully those guys get back so we can see
Speaker 7: this verticality with this Texas Coast offense.
Speaker 3: Worry about Beyondish in this one, you know, because of
Speaker 3: Patrick's right, we'll see. But we've also thought about with
Speaker 3: Tyler Smith, if you're just playing the game of how
Speaker 3: things have kind of worked, you know through three weeks
Speaker 3: of the season, when it comes to these injuries and
Speaker 3: it's a hamstring and it's this and that, and you're
Speaker 3: just like, oh, it's minor, it's okay, it's you know,
Speaker 3: we'll be fine here, Yeah, it will. But we've also
Speaker 3: seen these guys miss two three games also, so I
Speaker 3: would keep an eye on Beyondish this week and see
Speaker 3: how much did he really practices like that Smith and Martin,
Speaker 3: you know, those are the ones I think that are
Speaker 3: probably further along than what Tyler Beyodish is.
Speaker 8: So with one of the comments that have prompted this
Speaker 8: whole injuriesuation, with McCarthy saying, I forgot exactly what he said,
Speaker 8: but something in the lines of the backups needing more
Speaker 8: practice time, yeah, and feeling comfortable, which is that was
Speaker 8: That's just my initial assumption with any backups, you're getting
Speaker 8: quote unquote the amount, type, or quantity of reps that
Speaker 8: you would need in case you have to go into
Speaker 8: a game, but as far as and I doubt it's
Speaker 8: this week because a lot of those injuries are on standby,
Speaker 8: but moving forward, once they become healthy and you got
Speaker 8: the starters again, in case a scenario like this happens again,
Speaker 8: like how do you manage like how do you split
Speaker 8: the the reps in practice and to give everybody the
Speaker 8: amount rep?
Speaker 3: Okay, this is this is what happened. And I think
Speaker 3: I think McCarthy got caught short on all the injuries
Speaker 3: happened late in the week, So now he's thinking, Okay,
Speaker 3: well I'm gonna have my guys to do this, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden it's like, oh wait, you know
Speaker 3: Martin's out, us out. Now he's compromised. Now his game
Speaker 3: plans compromised. Now he's thinking like, well, damn, I didn't
Speaker 3: get the other guys ready. What happens when you watch
Speaker 3: practice is they'll have it's broken down to where they'll
Speaker 3: have a red zone period. Offense gets eight snaps in
Speaker 3: the red zone. Defense gets eight snaps in the red zone,
Speaker 3: and they kind of work with each other the practice there.
Speaker 3: The problem with that is usually when the starters are
Speaker 3: involved with the eight snaps in the red zone, it's
Speaker 3: seven and one. McCarthy's probably now to a point like, listen,
Speaker 3: I can't do seven and one. I have to think
Speaker 3: about five and three, four and four. You know, with
Speaker 3: the way his offensive line is and the way they've
Speaker 3: had problems with it, it's kind of a wake up
Speaker 3: call for all his positions. You know, we need to
Speaker 3: have more guys ready. It's amazing how this team has
Speaker 3: had to deal already with injuries late in the week,
Speaker 3: and he's like, well, if this is going to be
Speaker 3: the trend for us right now, I could do something
Speaker 3: about it the way I give these guys reps. And
Speaker 3: so that's where I think he's going. If there's eight
Speaker 3: plays are gonna run, you're gonna see a five and
Speaker 3: a three or four and a four. It's not gonna
Speaker 3: be seven and one anymore.
Speaker 7: And there's also a transaction that kind of hints at
Speaker 7: what Brian is saying. As far as Beatish is concerned.
Speaker 7: I mean, you depends on how you want to read
Speaker 7: the tea leaves. But the Cowboys signed center Billy Price
Speaker 7: to the practice squad this morning, and when you look
Speaker 7: at Price, Price was well decorated coming out of Ohio.
Speaker 2: State first round pick. Yeah, first round pick.
Speaker 7: He also earned PFWA All Rookie Team honors in his
Speaker 7: first year twenty eighteen, I believe. So you know some
Speaker 7: definitely some veteran talent coming to the practice squad. Okay,
Speaker 7: so that begs. So now then the question the available,
Speaker 7: Like I said, it depends on how you read the
Speaker 7: tea leaves because on one note, you can say, well,
Speaker 7: why is he still available? Obviously there's probably some some
Speaker 7: struggles there and he's not one of the premier obviously
Speaker 7: offensive linemen that are still that you know, hit the
Speaker 7: free agency market this offseason. Otherwise he's not available to
Speaker 7: be picked up in late September. But then the other
Speaker 7: side of that is you're adding a veteran IQ to
Speaker 7: that backup offensive line situation, whereas you have a ton
Speaker 7: of youth who've mostly played well when thrown into the fire,
Speaker 7: but at the same time they could stand to learn,
Speaker 7: you know, from a guy like Billy Price. But then
Speaker 7: the other side of that three side, the other side
Speaker 7: of that is what does this mean anything for Tomer
Speaker 7: b Beatish's potential availability against the Patriots? Because you also
Speaker 7: have the brock Hoffman equations. Because Hoffman has been now
Speaker 7: elevated three times, so there's also that could just be
Speaker 7: transaction to transactions. So you know, again, we'll see how
Speaker 7: it goes. But I'm also with Amber when it comes
Speaker 7: to these late week injuries. We're having this conversation on Wednesday.
Speaker 7: I don't like Thursdays anymore. So you know, let's I'm
Speaker 7: not going to dig into any optimism or anything like
Speaker 7: that until we have Friday morning show and I see
Speaker 7: that there was not some.
Speaker 2: Mystical Thursday injury that largely.
Speaker 8: Impact with Zach retiring with Saturday, well, but even with
Speaker 8: Zach all week in practice, but we still we're hearing, oh.
Speaker 3: No, he's on our show on one O five three
Speaker 3: the Fan on Thursdays and everything's good exactly. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: everything's good, and everything's fine, and so you honestly, you
Speaker 3: don't know until you guys get on the plane Saturday
Speaker 3: or they practice on and that and that's and and
Speaker 3: I just think that this is a this is a
Speaker 3: this is a difficult trend. You know, this has happened.
Speaker 3: Now we're before the season and now you've had to
Speaker 3: deal with late week injuries, and I don't I don't
Speaker 3: think it's anything McCarthy's doing practice wise. Heck, he gives
Speaker 3: him Fridays off. You know, he really doesn't practice. I
Speaker 3: mean he does a walkthrough on Saturday. So yeah, there
Speaker 3: are things that he he likes to go out there
Speaker 3: and practice pads and they're outside today. It's a warm day,
Speaker 3: so you know he's into that kind of stuff. But man,
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to practice. You know, if you're
Speaker 3: stepping on other guy trying to get a ball, and
Speaker 3: you're stepping on a guy's foot, you know that caused
Speaker 3: you your ankle to be bad or blot your knee.
Speaker 3: Is that on mccarth football.
Speaker 5: There's injuries built into the game.
Speaker 3: But there's things he could do to help his backup guys.
Speaker 3: I don't like giving them more work.
Speaker 7: I don't want Ambar mad at me anymore. That's the
Speaker 7: bottom line. But real quick, McCarthy, whose press conference is
Speaker 7: running concurrent with what we're doing right now, just got
Speaker 7: an update that Tyler I'm sorry. Yeah, Tyler Baddish, Tyrone Smith,
Speaker 7: and Zach Martin will all start with the rehab group today.
Speaker 7: Cowboys will see how they feel after that. Maybe they
Speaker 7: get some limited reps, maybe not. I don't think that
Speaker 7: they would on Wednesday. I think tomorrow will be you know,
Speaker 7: potential ramp up.
Speaker 2: I see the look on your face. Oh sorry, yeah,
Speaker 2: that came out. That was written all over your sorry.
Speaker 7: So so expect those three to be in the rehab
Speaker 7: group on Wednesday, and again we'll see what things look
Speaker 7: like on Thursday.
Speaker 2: And if they come out clean and better on Thursday.
Speaker 8: I will say this, it's impressive to me. Yes, there's
Speaker 8: work to be done, but like you mentioned earlier, the
Speaker 8: game wasn't lost because of the O line and the
Speaker 8: backups and what they did. They were still able to
Speaker 8: manage it. It affected how McCarthy called the place and
Speaker 8: all that, but all in all, talent wise, we've seen
Speaker 8: it years before when you only got one guy out
Speaker 8: usually tyrons, and that was it you If you were screwed,
Speaker 8: that's you know, that's going to be a terrible game.
Speaker 8: But the crazy part, or the impressive part, I should say,
Speaker 8: with this coaching staff, despite all these changes, all these moves,
Speaker 8: they're still surviving and making it work. So we've come
Speaker 8: a long way from back in the day. And you
Speaker 8: lose one guy, you lose one guy, Atlanta.
Speaker 5: Port real quick before we go to break I would
Speaker 5: like to get an assessment of what you guys thought
Speaker 5: of brock Kaufman, particularly in this game. And I want
Speaker 5: to talk not not just from the standpoint of how
Speaker 5: he played as a center, but also he's I assume
Speaker 5: he was still responsible maybe for making the call, absolutely,
Speaker 5: but but what did you see there? Do you see
Speaker 5: anything that stood out to you good or bad?
Speaker 3: I think the thing with brock Hoffman is that he's
Speaker 3: limited athletically, but he makes up for it in toughness.
Speaker 3: I was worried about him them putting a guy right
Speaker 3: on him the whole time and him having to make
Speaker 3: calls and all that. You didn't see any massive breakdowns
Speaker 3: in scheme when it came to the rush. Everything was
Speaker 3: picked up. The one problem they had on fourth down
Speaker 3: really felt like Dak. They let the furthest guy from
Speaker 3: the ball go. That's Dak's man. Hey, Dak, we've got
Speaker 3: everybody in front of us covered. You got to take
Speaker 3: care of that guy. So I didn't see anything where
Speaker 3: it was just you know, the twist stunts in front.
Speaker 3: Usually guys have problems with, you know, to be able
Speaker 3: to pass the stunts working with other guys. Didn't see
Speaker 3: that at all. With this guy, you know, he is
Speaker 3: limited to what he can do because Biondis can get
Speaker 3: second level blocks and Hoffman's more. But kind of a
Speaker 3: take the guy right at the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 3: then make sure that's secure and then hope for the
Speaker 3: best if he can get to the second level. But
Speaker 3: his play was was There was some apprehension me about it,
Speaker 3: but I think if you had to plug him back in,
Speaker 3: he showed himself pretty well there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean, of the pressures that were allowed by the
Speaker 7: Cowboys on Sunday in Arizona, not a lot of those
Speaker 7: pressures came up the middle. Not a lot of those
Speaker 7: pressures were allowed by Hoffman the backup center. So I
Speaker 7: mean that's my clean assessment of him. I mean, could
Speaker 7: he have been cleaner and some of his reps absolutely
Speaker 7: could have. I mean you also look at his age
Speaker 7: and him being thrown into the fire. But all things considered,
Speaker 7: I was right there with Brian. I mean, you're lining
Speaker 7: up nose to nose with you know, a guy who
Speaker 7: has many more reps in the NFL than you. You
Speaker 7: would think that Hoffman probably would get blown off the
Speaker 7: ball at the time or two. I didn't see any
Speaker 7: reps where he absolutely got decimated at all.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it was an impressive out of
Speaker 2: for that look.
Speaker 3: With a running game hit too. There were some plays
Speaker 3: that went inside the tackle box there that he was
Speaker 3: able to. You know, those guys did a nice job inside.
Speaker 3: It's a shame though that they get a sack because
Speaker 3: of the waggle, the boot, the naked you know, they
Speaker 3: don't get Savior Collins coming down. That's a sack. And
Speaker 3: then the other one was a dooga. They're trying to
Speaker 3: double move. So the two sacks that were giving up
Speaker 3: in that game were really kind of you know, hey,
Speaker 3: we're gonna try and tricky over here. It didn't work.
Speaker 3: We're gonna try double move over here. Your tackle, you know,
Speaker 3: struggles a little bit, and then then your guard struggles
Speaker 3: a little bit. But other than that, they were pretty
Speaker 3: clean the way they played.
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Speaker 5: we go. Let's start first where we start every week
Speaker 5: on a Wednesday. I want you guys to go around
Speaker 5: the table. Give me your biggest storyline for the Cowboys
Speaker 5: heading into Week four of the NFL season. Brian, let's
Speaker 5: start with.
Speaker 3: You, Bill Belichick against Mike McCarthy, defensive guru versus play caller.
Speaker 3: That's back in the mix. So that's my storyline this week.
Speaker 3: Can the Cowboys find a way to kind of put
Speaker 3: together a really nice game plan to combat a defense
Speaker 3: that's probably gonna throw a lot of different looks at you.
Speaker 3: And that's the great thing about playing Belichick. He's always
Speaker 3: going to have something for you that you didn't see before.
Speaker 3: Can Mike McCarthy and the staff figure it out move
Speaker 3: the football this week?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, same same concern or storyline offensively as it's been
Speaker 8: since pretty much Week one after week one, but now
Speaker 8: it's mhanced to another level. I'm not concerned defensively.
Speaker 3: We we did.
Speaker 8: See how they were able to adjust in the second
Speaker 8: half against the Cardinals, so I trust what Dan Quinn
Speaker 8: and everybody else can do defensively. But on offense, it's
Speaker 8: hard to say. I want to see it clicking because
Speaker 8: I think I'm still unsure that we'll have every single
Speaker 8: piece of starters out there. It's that's a hard one.
Speaker 8: That's gonna be tough.
Speaker 5: Here's our injury guys.
Speaker 8: Uh No, But hopefully we can if I can see
Speaker 8: some improvement at least like creatively, if McCarthy can just
Speaker 8: kind of change the playbooks a little bit, play more
Speaker 8: with a lot more confidence, and be a little bit
Speaker 8: more creative, that's I think the storyline for me what
Speaker 8: I'm looking for this week.
Speaker 7: For me, and again consistency in the run defense. You
Speaker 7: did it two out of three times. But here we go.
Speaker 7: Ezekiel ellis homecoming and a combo between him and Ramandre Stevenson.
Speaker 7: Stevenson is is a player, he's a gamer. So can
Speaker 7: this Cowboys run defense bounce back from an atrocious game
Speaker 7: where they allowed over one hundred and forty yards in
Speaker 7: the first half against the Cardinals in a quality backfield.
Speaker 7: And then, of course you have the emotional component of
Speaker 7: Ezekiel Elliott and he's you know, Jerry didn't want to
Speaker 7: spoil it today in one oh five three the Fan,
Speaker 7: But there is likely some type of honoring that's going
Speaker 7: to happen for Ezekiel Elliott's ring.
Speaker 3: Of honor already ahead of Jimmy Hey, why not?
Speaker 2: So you never know.
Speaker 7: So, I mean, there's gonna be that emotional component for
Speaker 7: Ezekiel Elliott alongside his talent and ability to make plays,
Speaker 7: particularly in the red zone. Stevenson he can do it all.
Speaker 7: He's a home run hitter as well. So for me,
Speaker 7: it's run defense. How can they bounce back or will
Speaker 7: they bounce back? And what does that look like against
Speaker 7: Ezekiel Elliott and his homecoming in Ramondre Steve.
Speaker 5: Yeah, good one, all right, what serious? Well, actually it's
Speaker 5: the same thing of the running running defense, actually was
Speaker 5: I was just looking this up. Do you guys think
Speaker 5: the best running back duo they faced so far was
Speaker 5: Week two against the Jets? Because Bresol and I was like,
Speaker 5: that's the test, and they passed that test. I immediately thought, Okay,
Speaker 5: they've solved this problem. And this is what also makes
Speaker 5: me think they didn't maybe take this running game as
Speaker 5: seriously as maybe they took the Jets running game. They
Speaker 5: showed me they could do it against the Jets, and
Speaker 5: I think the Jets have a better running game. The
Speaker 5: fact that it didn't look like that this week makes
Speaker 5: me think they didn't put the level of focus on
Speaker 5: their running game of stopping their running game that they
Speaker 5: did against the Jets. You guys agree with that, I.
Speaker 3: Think the way I think you're to the point the thing,
Speaker 3: I think that Arizona has a better scheme and the
Speaker 3: way they run the ball, I think with the pin
Speaker 3: and poll stuff, I don't know why more teams don't
Speaker 3: try that. And when you get to Philadelphia, because I
Speaker 3: was watching Philadelphia play New England, last night, You're going
Speaker 3: to see a lot of the Penn and Poll stuff.
Speaker 3: And I I think movement affects the Cowboys the way
Speaker 3: they play run defense. I think it affects their eyes
Speaker 3: when when they see something going one way, they're taught
Speaker 3: get downhill as fast as you can. It be a
Speaker 3: part of the play at the point of attack, and
Speaker 3: then the ball will bend back and you're like going,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, where's the backside help here? Where's the
Speaker 3: discipline to play? So I think it was more of
Speaker 3: a disciplined problem with Arizona. But the way that Arizona
Speaker 3: scheme runs the ball, I think that's something if I'm
Speaker 3: playing the Cowboys, I'm like, man, maybe we could steal
Speaker 3: a couple of plays here, just trying to you know,
Speaker 3: our alignment or not having to block these guys one
Speaker 3: on one. We kind of can do some things to
Speaker 3: make them take advantage of how aggressive they are trying
Speaker 3: to get there.
Speaker 5: Do you think also, because Dallas tends to do a
Speaker 5: lot of slants and a lot of stunts, it also
Speaker 5: when you know those pin and points, Yeah, it actually
Speaker 5: runs them into bad situations, like they are rushing toward
Speaker 5: being in a bad situation and can't recover.
Speaker 3: We talked about the long run that they had when
Speaker 3: they when they put more in the backfield the receiver.
Speaker 3: What happened, Sam Williams is like flying up the field
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, then you're not set up front,
Speaker 3: and now you're there's there's like there's hesitation up front.
Speaker 3: Sam's already up and now you get the guard on
Speaker 3: the Mike linebacker. There's nobody there. They're playing too deep
Speaker 3: you know, I mean too deep coverage, not too deep there,
Speaker 3: but literally there's nobody sitting right there. So I I, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that it's to me if that's the one
Speaker 3: thing about guys like when you would Tank you appreciate
Speaker 3: about him playing the run game. Tank is not going
Speaker 3: to let you fool him. You know, he's going to
Speaker 3: stay like if the ball's going inside, he's going to
Speaker 3: be able to position where he can make the play
Speaker 3: where he could you know, he could work back in.
Speaker 3: He's not four steps up the field and then trying
Speaker 3: to redirect to get back as the ball's gone. He's
Speaker 3: going to play the scheme. He knows he knows how
Speaker 3: to read a scheme, but he knows how to close
Speaker 3: down and then when he has to make a play
Speaker 3: or he's chasing from the back side, he knows how
Speaker 3: to stay flat and then go get the ball. But
Speaker 3: he sometimes you have to have a feel of how
Speaker 3: you're supposed to play run defense as opposed and knowing
Speaker 3: where your fits are, knowing where the guys around your
Speaker 3: need to be as well.
Speaker 7: You can believe Bill Belichick will look at that Arizona
Speaker 7: Cardinals for sure, borrow what works.
Speaker 2: I'll try to integrate that into everybody else.
Speaker 5: That's no doubt everybody's.
Speaker 3: Philadelphia plays that way. Philadelphia will test you that.
Speaker 5: That's the NFL. All right, So here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 5: Let's jump into the Cowboys offense for the versus the
Speaker 5: Patriots defense real quick, Brian, before you jump into that,
Speaker 5: I just want to lay some numbers out there for
Speaker 5: for our listeners. The Patriots defense right now, very good defense.
Speaker 5: First of all, they are fifth in yards allowed, only
Speaker 5: giving up two hundred and seventy yards per game. They
Speaker 5: are fifth in past yards allowed, only giving up one
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy seven yards per game. Through the year,
Speaker 5: they are ninth and rush yards per attempt, only giving
Speaker 5: up three point six per rush and ninth in points allowed,
Speaker 5: only giving up twenty points per game. Brian, tell me
Speaker 5: why they're so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is gonna be an odd front again for you.
Speaker 3: It's a three man line. They could adjust the front
Speaker 3: do to their linebackers' ability to play along the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage. The majority of their coverages have been Cover three,
Speaker 3: which is a zone coverage that they use. They'll play
Speaker 3: Cover one, which is a man coverage. We'll get into
Speaker 3: that a little bit. Cover two we always talk about
Speaker 3: it's a safety to two safety split, so we're going
Speaker 3: to see a little maybe too deep. These are the
Speaker 3: top three coverages that they'll want run. The zone coverage,
Speaker 3: the man coverage, and then that too deep look right there.
Speaker 3: They did play what we call Cover six, which is
Speaker 3: against the Dolphins. It's kind of a combo of the
Speaker 3: two and the four. That's how you get the six.
Speaker 3: It splits the field in half and it's a good
Speaker 3: blend of zone and man. So they're kind of trying
Speaker 3: to show you one thing, but it's really on the
Speaker 3: other side they're playing another. So you're kind of like, oh,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, this looks like a cover too. No, wait,
Speaker 3: it's they're playing zone. Oh they're actually playing man over here.
Speaker 3: It's really good when it helps you defend the run,
Speaker 3: you know, because there's but against like a short passing
Speaker 3: game like the Cowboys have, it's kind of a coverage
Speaker 3: could get them in trouble. They did it against the Dolphins,
Speaker 3: didn't do it against the Eagles, or didn't do it
Speaker 3: against the Jets. So there was something that they were
Speaker 3: worried about in the Dolphins game that allowed them to say, Okay,
Speaker 3: we got to play a little bit of this mix
Speaker 3: of man and zone right there. It's the defensive line
Speaker 3: you mentioned it. It's not one of these really household
Speaker 3: names of guys, you know. It's Goutshaw who he hurt
Speaker 3: his ankle. He's a defensive tackle, Devid Goushaw. He heard
Speaker 3: his ankle in the Jets game. He was knocked out
Speaker 3: of the game. It'll be interested to see if he
Speaker 3: could play this week. Lawrence guy's a good player for
Speaker 3: them up front. Big guy Christian Barmore is another guy.
Speaker 3: Barmore had four pressures four quarterback hits in that Dolphins game.
Speaker 3: So there's a defensive tackle that can win inside and
Speaker 3: then get pressure on your quarterback. So I think you
Speaker 3: need to kind of account for him in that area. Well.
Speaker 3: Dietrich Wise is a long, rangy veteran, kind of an
Speaker 3: edge player. He's a better one player than he is passed.
Speaker 3: So if you're running the ball to one side, maybe
Speaker 3: you want to run it away from Dietrich Wise. He's
Speaker 3: a little bit one of those guys that kind of
Speaker 3: has a feel for how to play. The linebackers are
Speaker 3: the heart of this defense, and it starts with Matthew
Speaker 3: Jerdon Jerdn. He's listed as a linebacker. He's kind of
Speaker 3: more of an edge but he's very similar to what
Speaker 3: they do with Micah Parsons, and he's gonna move around
Speaker 3: all over the place. They're gonna find the best possible
Speaker 3: matchup for him. You'll see him rushing from all those
Speaker 3: different spots. He can attack the edge, he can win
Speaker 3: against blocks. He's got some power to his game. He
Speaker 3: could be a little slippery in the way he plays,
Speaker 3: and they put him inside, he can kind of like
Speaker 3: go and then avoid and then get in on the play.
Speaker 3: They're gonna need to account for him on a lot
Speaker 3: of different fronts when he's lined up again. He's like
Speaker 3: Micah in the way they move him around. They did.
Speaker 3: He did a great job in that Dolphins game I
Speaker 3: mentioned two sacks, two quarterback hits. Josh Ucci is another
Speaker 3: player that is a linebacker, very explosive. He has the
Speaker 3: ability to get up the field in a hurry. Like Jordan,
Speaker 3: he could be really disruptive in the way he goes
Speaker 3: about lining up all over the field. He gets the
Speaker 3: blocker on his first step. He causes problems in that way.
Speaker 3: So he's a guy that got a couple of guys
Speaker 3: that can rush the passer. Juwan Bentley is the veteran linebacker.
Speaker 3: He's the thumper, He's the big guy. He's the guy
Speaker 3: that plays with some pop. He's a downhill player. He's
Speaker 3: always attacking the line of scrimmage. He's always got to
Speaker 3: be careful about him. He could read it, shoot the
Speaker 3: gap and then make a tackle for loss. So physical,
Speaker 3: you know, be ready if you not just go up
Speaker 3: and try and just bump him. This guy's going to
Speaker 3: try and run over you in that regard. So does
Speaker 3: a good job of finishing when he gets in position.
Speaker 3: The Patriots secondary is an interesting one because they got
Speaker 3: a star in the making with a rookie Christian Gonzalez,
Speaker 3: who was from Oregon. Actually he's a local kid. I
Speaker 3: think he's from Hebron High School over here. But he's
Speaker 3: a tech. His kid starting Colorado and then went to Oregon,
Speaker 3: and but he is a The Patriots are the staff
Speaker 3: as they've put him in some seriously high leverage spots
Speaker 3: when it comes to coverage with this. In the Jets game,
Speaker 3: he shadowed Garrett Wilson sixty percent of the game. He
Speaker 3: played press man coverage and Nam forty three percent of
Speaker 3: the time in those games. So there you go, right there,
Speaker 3: big time coverage to rekill the week before, he shadowed
Speaker 3: him sixty percent of the time of the game twenty
Speaker 3: nine percent press man coverage in those games. The Eagles
Speaker 3: went after him. In the first game, they targeted him
Speaker 3: twelve times. They had eight receptions ninety for ninety nine yards.
Speaker 3: I would expect that Gonzalez is going to travel with
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb in this matchup. You'll see it. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's it's it's clear. They just said, okay, you go
Speaker 3: with him, and you know what, it doesn't matter if
Speaker 3: Lamb goes in the slot, Gonzales will go in the
Speaker 3: slot with it. So it's not just like, oh wait,
Speaker 3: we can get him off him if we put Lamb
Speaker 3: in the slot. No, Gonzales will go down inside and
Speaker 3: play there. So this guy's a sticky, relentless cover man.
Speaker 3: He's got movement, he's got elite ball skills, really really
Speaker 3: good player. Miles Bryant plays on the other side, opposite.
Speaker 3: He's gonna flip when they travel, and he'll also kick
Speaker 3: inside in the slot when the Patriots go nickel. He
Speaker 3: defends the ball well. He puts himself in good position
Speaker 3: to make plays. Movement, redirection skills are solid with this guy.
Speaker 3: You got to be aware of him blitzing off the slot.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they'll play him tight and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: it's a slot blitz. That's how they get some they
Speaker 3: get some additional pressure that way. Their safeties are Kyle Dugger,
Speaker 3: I think is better than what Jabrill Peppers is. Dugger
Speaker 3: is better of the two. Like I said, the staff
Speaker 3: uses him in a unique way. He'll play deep like
Speaker 3: half the time, he'll play down in the box a
Speaker 3: quarter of the time, and then sometimes you'll see him
Speaker 3: actually go in the slot and play. So they feel
Speaker 3: like that he could cover in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 3: Before he was they didn't use him that This is
Speaker 3: kind of new for how they've used him, and you'll
Speaker 3: occasionally get him on the blitz. So that's you know,
Speaker 3: Jabrill Peppers, I mentioned him. He's a veteran player. He's
Speaker 3: got a number of tackles, but you'll also see times
Speaker 3: where he misses tackles. He'll be in space and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, the balls come in to the edge
Speaker 3: and he's trying to wrap up and he gets knocked
Speaker 3: off and then he's on the ground. That's happened to
Speaker 3: him a couple of different times. So, but he's the
Speaker 3: one guy that they like to bring on the blitz.
Speaker 3: I mentioned about Kyle Duggart coming, but Peppers is the
Speaker 3: guy that they'll rush generally opposite though they'll try to
Speaker 3: stunt and then they'll bring him off the edge. So
Speaker 3: it's a good defense. It doesn't have a lot of
Speaker 3: household names, but the one you need to know about
Speaker 3: is Christian Gonzales, the corner from Oregon. He is a
Speaker 3: very very talented player that again they use in a
Speaker 3: lot of those high leverage situations.
Speaker 7: No, I was gonna say, it's a defense that as
Speaker 7: great as they are, the weakness there is they don't
Speaker 7: excel at taking the ball away. They don't take the
Speaker 7: ball that we will. They have only two takeaways over
Speaker 7: the first three weeks. One is a Christian Gonzales interception.
Speaker 7: Unthough there's the fumble recovery against Jalen Hurts to open
Speaker 7: the season. So they are good at all three levels.
Speaker 7: Like Brian said, linebacker corps very good, most certainly the
Speaker 7: heart of that. But they also are still without Jonathan Jones.
Speaker 7: We'll see if Jonathan Jones, the cornerback, returns this week.
Speaker 7: He's not played since Week one as he deals with
Speaker 7: an ankle injury. So they're down one of their outside
Speaker 7: starting corners there, so maybe a point of attack there,
Speaker 7: particularly if you see that Belichick is deploying a strategy
Speaker 7: that has Gonzales shading cd lamb. Okay, well, here's Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 7: It's time for a big game, and this is where
Speaker 7: you have optimism after. This is where you also have
Speaker 7: optimism after seeing Michael Gallup come on strong against the Cardinals,
Speaker 7: because now it seems like the Cowboys have figured out
Speaker 7: what Gallup looks like in the Texas Coast offense, which
Speaker 7: was a question that we had you know, last week
Speaker 7: or a couple of episodes or so ago. So I
Speaker 7: think that outside of Gonzales and I tweeted this after
Speaker 7: that interception, Gonzales is as advertised, you are going to
Speaker 7: have to be careful with targeting him. But if Jonathan
Speaker 7: Jones is inactive, and then that brings up backups on
Speaker 7: the outside, on the other outside, maybe you target them,
Speaker 7: have Cooks line up against him and say beat them
Speaker 7: to death, right, Michael Gallup, beat your guy to death.
Speaker 7: So the secondary, like you talked about with Jabrill Peppers,
Speaker 7: he'll take risks, it'll cause him to be over aggressive
Speaker 7: in his tackling angles, he'll miss those tackles and ceedee.
Speaker 7: Lamb has some some real history with Jalen Mills with
Speaker 7: the Wave. You remember that, Yeah, right, So, I mean
Speaker 7: you know he can Jalen Mills can be had as well.
Speaker 2: He got fined fined something.
Speaker 5: Because it was at the end of the Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So the point of attack the Cowboys offense, hopefully
Speaker 7: they have you know, if they're not holding on the
Speaker 7: offensive line, hopefully they have at least two of those
Speaker 7: guys back, which would be Zach and Tiring is what
Speaker 7: it looks like, right, now because you're going to have
Speaker 7: a challenge with that defensive front, but you can attack
Speaker 7: the secondary anyone not named Christian Gonzales.
Speaker 5: How is Gonzalez in the slot because obviously if you're
Speaker 5: gonna if he's gonna travel with with CDs, he's gonna
Speaker 5: be in the spot a lot.
Speaker 3: The ball didn't go his way. I mean, that's it.
Speaker 3: They bring Tarik Hill down there in the slot, and
Speaker 3: that's where he was, and he's able to stay with
Speaker 3: him the move.
Speaker 5: He's stay, he stay, He'll go to the slot and
Speaker 5: he'll play it well, he'll play it.
Speaker 3: He'll absolutely he's just a really good defender. Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: comfortable playing it. Any spots you can't run away from him, you.
Speaker 2: Can't get away long and his stride.
Speaker 3: This is the fun thing, though, if you go back
Speaker 3: and I looked at something because of the next gen
Speaker 3: opportunity that we have here in our building. I love
Speaker 3: this because I went back and looked at Dak Prescott
Speaker 3: and how when they played the Patriots, and that's just
Speaker 3: one of Dak's best games I think he's ever played.
Speaker 3: He was thirty six of fifty one for four hundred
Speaker 3: and forty five yards. The overtime game. Remember he hurt
Speaker 3: the calf on the last play. I was curious about
Speaker 3: how they played him, how they played coverage against him,
Speaker 3: just to see if Belichick's like, listen, we can't do this.
Speaker 3: This guy killed us in this area they had. He
Speaker 3: dealt with nineteen pressures in this game, no sacks. They
Speaker 3: played fifty five percent man coverage in the game. Dak
Speaker 3: was seventeen of twenty eight for one to ninety three,
Speaker 3: three touchdowns in the game, had the lone interception there
Speaker 3: forty five percent zone coverage. He was nineteen of twenty
Speaker 3: three for two point fifty two. He played Cover one
Speaker 3: against him. That's that single high look. They played Cover
Speaker 3: three with him, which is we talked about is kind
Speaker 3: of a zone coverage area. They played Cover two only
Speaker 3: twelve percent of time. They played this Cover zero, which
Speaker 3: was no safety help man all the way across the board.
Speaker 3: Prescott had three touchdowns in that game when he played
Speaker 3: against and then only played the coverage ten percent of
Speaker 3: the time. Dak played it perfectly in that game. No
Speaker 3: safety help, no help in the middle of the field,
Speaker 3: true man to man defense. It's designed to get a
Speaker 3: lot of pressure. They didn't get the pressure, they didn't
Speaker 3: get the sacks and Dak ate them alives Belichicks might
Speaker 3: look back at that game in life, Hm, maybe we
Speaker 3: don't want to do this to this guy in this
Speaker 3: protect time. One of the best games that Dak's played
Speaker 3: in his career.
Speaker 5: Traditionally, when you see cover zero, that means there's also
Speaker 5: blitzing going on. Yeah, and one thing we know about
Speaker 5: Dak is traditionally Dak is really good against the blitz.
Speaker 5: He usually plays really good against the blitz. So that
Speaker 5: doesn't shock me. I hope they bring the blitz. You
Speaker 5: actually want them to bring the blitz against this quarterback
Speaker 5: because I think he's really good in those situations. All Right,
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Speaker 5: meant to this offense last year and if the Cowboys
Speaker 5: may in some respects miss him this season with the
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Speaker 5: Let's talk a little bit about Zeke Elliott. He will
Speaker 5: be returning this week with the New England Patriots. It
Speaker 5: was a really I mean, you look at Zeke's career here,
Speaker 5: I think cowboys got everything that they wanted out of him.
Speaker 5: I think you can, you can question the contracts and
Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff, but I think while he
Speaker 5: was here, he was a very, very very productive running
Speaker 5: back for them. But check out some of these numbers
Speaker 5: I looked at. I looked up from the standpoint of
Speaker 5: gold to go situations. Last year. There were thirteen times
Speaker 5: when he got the ball in goal to go situations.
Speaker 5: Eight of those times he was in the end zone
Speaker 5: at a sixty two percent. It's way better than where
Speaker 5: they are right now when they're in goal to go situations.
Speaker 5: He was only stuffed one time, which is another stat
Speaker 5: you look at, was he hit behind the line scrimmage?
Speaker 5: Tackle behind line scrimmage? He's only stuffed one time, but
Speaker 5: eight of the thirteen times he ended up in the
Speaker 5: end zone. That would have made him third in the
Speaker 5: league behind Jamal Williams and Jalen hurtson what they do
Speaker 5: in Philadelphia where they just basically push the Christian zone. Right,
Speaker 5: that being said, does Dallas miss Ezequielae this year?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a simple question or simple answer. Absolutely. We
Speaker 8: talk about I mean everything that you just mentioned right now.
Speaker 8: There's nothing else I need to point out other than
Speaker 8: what you said, the stats and everything that we've seen
Speaker 8: in the red zone, I think that I don't know
Speaker 8: the total amount of times, but I think they would
Speaker 8: have been a lot more effective in the red zone
Speaker 8: if Ezekiel Elliott was there as a running back. Now
Speaker 8: that's not to say that the guys that they currently
Speaker 8: have are not doing a good job, because they are
Speaker 8: in credit to them, but it's a totally different type
Speaker 8: of running back, and I think that's why last year
Speaker 8: it worked so well him with the combination of Tony
Speaker 8: Poler and then finally being able to find the right
Speaker 8: balance between the two and playing them to what their
Speaker 8: strength are, because we know Zeke doesn't have the same
Speaker 8: type of explosiveness anymore as a guy like Tony Poller
Speaker 8: and being too able to make those cuts escape, but
Speaker 8: vice versa, like Tony doesn't have the same strength that
Speaker 8: Zeke has. So I do think they miss him. I
Speaker 8: still don't think going back and looking at it now,
Speaker 8: it would change like you had to make that decision.
Speaker 8: It's what I'm trying to say, like it had to
Speaker 8: be that way, But they do miss a guy like Ezekulative.
Speaker 8: But I think with the talent that they currently have,
Speaker 8: if they start scheming things differently and coming up with
Speaker 8: different plays, I still think that they can be more
Speaker 8: effective and make it work with the guys that they
Speaker 8: currently have. So at some point I don't think you
Speaker 8: would need a guy like Zeke if you change things up,
Speaker 8: but currently, yes, it would be freaking nice to have.
Speaker 7: I'll first say that, you know, I love Zeke to death,
Speaker 7: and I was a proponent of keeping him on this team.
Speaker 7: But given and it's a small sample size, it's only
Speaker 7: three games, I think that what they missed from Ezekiel
Speaker 7: Elliott is that comfort, that security blanket and knowing that
Speaker 7: this is the situation goal to go, this is who
Speaker 7: we're going to hand it off, and they haven't figured
Speaker 7: out yet who that person will be. That's where I
Speaker 7: think the issue is not necessarily that you missed Ezekiel
Speaker 7: Elliott down there, but we talked about, for example, handing
Speaker 7: it off to Peyton Hindershot instead of maybe giving it
Speaker 7: to Hunter lip Key.
Speaker 3: There's there's my who.
Speaker 7: Has the power, who has the stature to give you
Speaker 7: that short yardage. So when I start seeing that, if
Speaker 7: I start seeing that, then I can say, Okay, well
Speaker 7: what's the hunter, what's Hunter lip Key's effectiveness and success
Speaker 7: rate with Gold and Gold in short yardage versus Ezekiel
Speaker 7: Elliott's success rate, and then we could say, well, they
Speaker 7: do or they do not miss Ezekiel Elliott. So for
Speaker 7: me right now, I just think that they missed the
Speaker 7: comfort of knowing that if you're in gold to gold,
Speaker 7: if you're in short yardage, you just hand it to
Speaker 7: the hammer. But the reality is they haven't established who
Speaker 7: the hammer is, and I think it might and should
Speaker 7: be Hunter Lipke.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is how much is your goal
Speaker 3: line and that red zone package or a short yardage package?
Speaker 3: Where is it worth? Fourteen fifteen sixteen million dollars a
Speaker 3: year too?
Speaker 2: That's really what it came down to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean all of a sudden, you know, and now, okay,
Speaker 3: then you move on from him, and then you want
Speaker 3: to resign him. Say well, okay, you resign him for
Speaker 3: four million. Well he's already counting eight millions in dead money,
Speaker 3: maybe more than that. So you're basically paying like twelve
Speaker 3: million dollars to have Ezekiel e La back here. I
Speaker 3: don't know why, And I think we're going to come
Speaker 3: to this point where to me, they're going to hand
Speaker 3: the ball to Hunter Lipkey. Hunter Lipkey is in to me.
Speaker 3: I there are things about Key when they've talked about
Speaker 3: him being a fullback that I'm like, I've never seen
Speaker 3: this guy block. And there's times where he's been a
Speaker 3: good blocker and there's other times where he's not been
Speaker 3: as good. But the one thing you can't discredit Hunter
Speaker 3: Lipky for is his toughness and carrying the football. Third
Speaker 3: and one, nine yard run with a loaded box, He's
Speaker 3: going to find a way to go forward. He's going
Speaker 3: to find a way to knife through there, get a yard,
Speaker 3: get two yards, get whatever he has to do. They could,
Speaker 3: as Ambar says, they could scheme up things, but you
Speaker 3: can also, like I say, just hand him to Dan
Speaker 3: ball going straight ahead. He's proven to me just watching
Speaker 3: him play, whether it's the game against the Raiders in
Speaker 3: the postseason where not the postseason, but the preseason where
Speaker 3: he had all those carries. He's his vision, His ability
Speaker 3: to make things happen is impressive in his power, and
Speaker 3: the power is impressive. You don't need to hand the
Speaker 3: ball to Ezekiel Elliott at four million dollars a year
Speaker 3: when you got a guy that's very very capable of
Speaker 3: doing the same thing. And I'm I think we're gonna
Speaker 3: get to the point where Hunter Lipkey is going to
Speaker 3: become that guy where they you put him in the
Speaker 3: backfield just like the Eagles run the tush push. You know,
Speaker 3: we're gonna You're gonna put Hunter Lypkey in the backfield
Speaker 3: and he's gonna be the guy. That's That's where it's
Speaker 3: gonna come to North Dakota State again. The state of
Speaker 3: North Dakota love you. Not happy with me a lot.
Speaker 3: The state of California is another one that doesn't like
Speaker 3: me very much, especially in the Bay Area. It's not
Speaker 3: a fan of mine.
Speaker 5: I agree with you guys. I don't think they're trusting
Speaker 5: their power run game enough. You look at this last game.
Speaker 5: There was one play it was it ended up in it.
Speaker 5: I think it was a negative two yards, but basically
Speaker 5: they decided they were going to take the left guard
Speaker 5: and the left tackle and try to basically try to
Speaker 5: pull them into the center rather than going forward, and
Speaker 5: basically they left the defensive end unblocked. He runs nice
Speaker 5: right in and tackles Polo for two yard loss, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, that's just getting cute for no reason, like
Speaker 5: you want to power ahead. You're in goal to go situations,
Speaker 5: power the ball in. And I don't think they trust that.
Speaker 5: They don't trust the backs, they don't trust the offensive line,
Speaker 5: whatever is. They're not trusting enough in their ability to
Speaker 5: just power the ball ahead.
Speaker 3: And I want to see some of that, and let's.
Speaker 5: See if you really miss Zeke Elliott or is a
Speaker 5: situation where you don't trust these other factors right now,
Speaker 5: and that's why the problems are existing.
Speaker 3: I do remember a game last year, and I think
Speaker 3: I've talked about it on air, where they tried to
Speaker 3: hand the ball to Pollard on the goal line three
Speaker 3: straight times and they got stopped all three and then
Speaker 3: they said they brought Zeke in and it was fourth
Speaker 3: down and there's a touchdown, right, you know that there's
Speaker 3: something to that. There's something I think I just do.
Speaker 3: I think Hunter Lukey has a feel for how to
Speaker 3: find you one or two yards, you know, and and
Speaker 3: it's just just give him the opportunity. He will make
Speaker 3: do for you if you if you give him that opportunity.
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Speaker 5: Patriots offense versus the Cowboys defense. Still then for Patrick
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