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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome in, Doug Gottlieb All Ball Podcast. Man, we

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Speaker 1: got two really good guests for you. My man Mike

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Speaker 1: also some dozen games for ESPN. He's got fabulous insight

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Speaker 1: and we'll get you kind of caught up on the

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Speaker 1: Duke loss or maybe more importantly the Stephen F. Austin win.

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Speaker 1: And then Teddy Greenstein is gonna join us. Great friend

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Speaker 1: of mine, longtime writer for the Chicago Tribune. You can

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Speaker 1: read his work at Chicago Sports dot com and um,

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Speaker 1: good dude, and I I just I want his perspective.

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Speaker 1: He was at the Bulls Lakers game being a guy

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Speaker 1: and just just say his thoughts on that. I want

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Speaker 1: to give you a couple of quick thoughts, like Duke loses,

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Speaker 1: and there's some lessons here. We have lots of college

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Speaker 1: basketball coaches, high school coaches just hoop people who watch

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Speaker 1: and I am I spent some time with Jim Laronega.

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Speaker 1: This is like man four or five years ago, and

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Speaker 1: other league teams they played and other teams playing against Duke,

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Speaker 1: And so I asked him, like, what's the secret, and

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Speaker 1: he's like, middle ball screen, middle ball screen. I was like,

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Speaker 1: well that's it. It's like, well, look the way Duke plays,

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Speaker 1: you can't run offense, especially when you play at their place.

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Speaker 1: They get away with just being physical and moving you

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Speaker 1: all over the place. And uh, look, if you want

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Speaker 1: to do though, is they usually have, you know, a

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Speaker 1: big guy they've had. They've had a lot of talented

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Speaker 1: guys playing center um oftentimes big, sometimes big white stiff,

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Speaker 1: sometimes the big white athlete, big athlete who is an

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Speaker 1: NBA player, doesn't matter. But what we want is we

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Speaker 1: want to engage that guy in a hundred ball screens.

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Speaker 1: If we can do that, we can wear him down,

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Speaker 1: we can get him into foul trouble and we don't

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Speaker 1: have to run offense. We just had to get our

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Speaker 1: best downhill player, best ball screen player and attack on

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Speaker 1: those middle ball screens. Because they don't want to help,

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Speaker 1: they want to get steals. They want to get out

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Speaker 1: and get dunks. That's how they play. Did you watch

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Speaker 1: what Steven F. Austin did yesterday? They got their best

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Speaker 1: player in middle ball screens. I'm sorry that this is

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Speaker 1: by the time this recording that will be two nights

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Speaker 1: sometimes there's one you can't play to, you know, would

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Speaker 1: help that for Stephen F. Austin defensively climbing into him.

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Speaker 1: That is their style. They didn't have to change who

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Speaker 1: They just played middle ball screen, middles ball screen, middleall screen,

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Speaker 1: and it was enough. So I think that's unfascinating too.

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Speaker 1: It's a Jim larnega idea, and I I know Kyle

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Speaker 1: Kelor didn't call Jim larnega. And three, when you're looking

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Speaker 1: for teams that can beat Duke, the teams that have

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Speaker 1: the Devil's not gonna happen. I also think that there's

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Speaker 1: something else fascinating that's happened that game and revolves around

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Speaker 1: Nathan Baine, and it also relates to Anthony Edwards. Let

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Speaker 1: then we'll go to Edwards. So Nathan Baine made the

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Speaker 1: game winning layup for Stephen f. Austin against Duke And look,

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Speaker 1: I know the coach Stephen of Auston, Kyle Keller, is

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Speaker 1: hurricane and his parents house, their church, their school was

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Speaker 1: Didn't know. Since the win, the go fund me page

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Speaker 1: any of us who know basketball like I did this.

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Speaker 1: There's a camp, the Pengos Camp, Dinos Tregonis runs it.

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Speaker 1: college basketball does for you in terms of your profile.

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Speaker 1: If we if we eliminate even the education, which I

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Speaker 1: now when it's hyper hyper competitive, and we just look

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Speaker 1: at the basketball side to it. Forget the training, forget

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Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards. Had you heard of him? Had you seen

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Speaker 1: But this is what we do now. Every shot that

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Speaker 1: highlight going forward. It'll make you want to watch head forward.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's fabulous. But I also think that's

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Speaker 1: promotion of these players, which helps them by uh benefit financially.

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Speaker 1: And anybody who says otherwise, I'll just call you a liar,

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Speaker 1: like you hadn't heard of many of these guys, if

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Speaker 1: who Obi Toppin was twenty four and eight when they

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Speaker 1: playing in the Maui Invitational is great promotion for his brand. Again,

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Speaker 1: that's what college basketball does. So we can sit here

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Speaker 1: makes stars. All right, Let's get to the NBA. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: talking about Luca and at the time of its recording

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Speaker 1: much else to his game and he is still so

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Speaker 1: be Steph Curry light. I'm not sure he'll ever be

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry, I mean to be a two time MVP.

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Speaker 1: Probably not. Luca, on the other hand, could be this

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Speaker 1: era's Larry Bird. Let's sarahs Larry Bird. And I know

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Speaker 1: That's Luca Doncher. Be sure to catch the live edition

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio a app. All right, let's welcome to Michael

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Speaker 1: Donald joins us in the All Ball Podcast. Mike, Uh,

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Speaker 1: let me start with last night. What's your reaction to

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Speaker 1: Duke getting beaten at home by Stephen F. Austin. Uh,

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Speaker 1: your parody and college basketball loved it, um. And you know,

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Speaker 1: this is just a terrible upset by Duke. Stephen F.

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Speaker 1: Austin leads the country and three in uh in fource

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Speaker 1: turnovers per game. And I thought it's interesting. I kind

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Speaker 1: I asked him about that. I asked, I asked the

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Speaker 1: their s I d I asked their coach, Earl Clark,

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Speaker 1: who's a fantastic coach, um, and they said he's so

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Speaker 1: committed to College of Charleston and getting back to the

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Speaker 1: Inn sub Light Tournament that he didn't want any distractions

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Speaker 1: during the summer. I mean, this is he was. He

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Speaker 1: was an NBA prospect last season. The last year's draft

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Speaker 1: was loaded, and I get it, but this is like this,

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Speaker 1: he's a rare, really quiet, humble kid. Um. That's I

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Speaker 1: don't think we've seen very often to where he cares

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Speaker 1: about College of Charleston just as much about getting his

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Speaker 1: points up, kind of a rare thing called shoops, um.

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Speaker 1: And I think that hurt him as not getting tested,

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Speaker 1: kind of getting an idea. But late first round, Doug,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you that will be to steal the draft

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Speaker 1: is Grant Thriller of College of Charleston. Awesome stuff. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right. The last thing the high major team that's

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Speaker 1: not getting enough love. Ah Man, I think I don't

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Speaker 1: think we're talking about Auburn enough in the SEC. I

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thought they were gonna be this good,

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Speaker 1: and the way that they're competing on the defensions end

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Speaker 1: is kind of we take a step back and we

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Speaker 1: look at it, and you lose all those pieces from

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Speaker 1: that awesome run last season, and they say, there's no

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Speaker 1: way coach Pearl ConTroll it off. There's no way with

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Speaker 1: all the controversy around the program that they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to avoid distractions and all is going to be

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Speaker 1: a legit factor in the SEC because Florida is overrated,

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Speaker 1: Kentucky is still really good, UM Tennessee is always good

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Speaker 1: on a Rick Barnes, But I think Auburn might be

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Speaker 1: the second or third best team in the SEC. They're

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Speaker 1: playing that well. UM SEC is kind of a weird

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Speaker 1: conference because just as much as I'm saying about Auburn,

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Speaker 1: I could say the same thing about Arkansas. Is musliman

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Speaker 1: inherited a team that had a few pieces. Isaiah Joe,

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Speaker 1: who is a UM actually one of the best three

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Speaker 1: point shooters in the country. But Arkansas their defense is legits.

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Speaker 1: I think they're the best defensive team in the SEC

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Speaker 1: from a half court standpoint UM. But I think Auburn,

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Speaker 1: the way that they score their offensive smooth and they

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Speaker 1: run and run and run and just completely kind of

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Speaker 1: demoralize you from their conditioning and effort standpoint, I think

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Speaker 1: we're not talking about Auburn enough. Yeah, and then thoroughly

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Speaker 1: embarrassed in Mexico they beat a really good and previously

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Speaker 1: undefeated Richmond squad. I still think, you know, look, we'll

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Speaker 1: see step up and level of competition once they get

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Speaker 1: into conference play, right Like St. Louis is decent um

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Speaker 1: and she Stayed is decent. But we don't see them

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Speaker 1: go against anybody legit until Florida on the road in January.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's because Bruce knew he was gonna

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Speaker 1: have to read tool things. But with all these veterans

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Speaker 1: to go along with the freshman um, you know, he

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Speaker 1: may be you know, and Isaaca Coro is gonna come

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Speaker 1: along like he continues to take leaps and bounds. I

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Speaker 1: think they got a chance to be pretty damn good.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're as good as their record

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Speaker 1: because the level of competition and some of those seniors

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Speaker 1: are ahead of the curve. But I think they're really good.

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Speaker 1: But there's something to be said, Doug, and you know

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Speaker 1: that's from the scheduling standpoint. You know that's a smart

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Speaker 1: move by Bruce Pearl. I mean there are pieces there

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Speaker 1: that that team can be really good. But you know

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Speaker 1: how important confidences and college troops. That's why it's different

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Speaker 1: than college football. You get the team in a rhythm

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Speaker 1: and you get confidence playing you lead that into conference play.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's cliche. It matters if you're

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Speaker 1: playing officially and you're having fun, and that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a big deal leading against especially the grind of the SEC. Mike,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much of your time, and look look forward

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Speaker 1: to senior during that during that game, and and thanks

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Speaker 1: for being our guest. Happy to hell, appreciate it. Dog,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Be sure to catch the live edition of

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Speaker 1: the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m.

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Speaker 1: Easter noon Pacific. Let's welcome in from the Chicago Tribune.

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Speaker 1: Teddy Greenstein joins us, and uh, Teddy, you you went

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Speaker 1: to the Lakers Bulls game. You've worked How long have

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Speaker 1: you worked for the paper? It's like twenty years now, right,

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Speaker 1: Well we we we mark my tribune beginning from the

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Speaker 1: time I called you, seriously, man, you were one of

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Speaker 1: my first stories. Oh Man twenty three years. So again,

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Speaker 1: and and if you I here's what I remember about

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Speaker 1: that year was while I was at Notre Dame, the

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Speaker 1: Bulls actually played an exhibition game at the Joyce Center, right,

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Speaker 1: remember that against against against the Sonics. So here's my question.

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Speaker 1: What was it like? Like what I know what a

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Speaker 1: Lakers variances like in l a as people are there's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a renaissance here and then there's

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Speaker 1: the oh my gosh, maybe I like the Clippers better.

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Speaker 1: What was it like to be in the house that

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Speaker 1: Jordan's built when Lebron comes in wearing with this third team. Well, first,

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Speaker 1: I'm tempted to ask you who you had in that

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Speaker 1: Bulls Sonic scrimmage. I think the Bulls were favored by

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Speaker 1: fourteen and a half. So that was you know, that's

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Speaker 1: a memory. Um, it was amazing, And I just can't say,

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Speaker 1: like one of the cool things about covering Bulls games

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Speaker 1: is they have the media on the end line, like

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Speaker 1: in a lot of places where you know, up in

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Speaker 1: the two D three hundred, five hundred level or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but in this case we're down on the floor. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty amazing to be twenty feet from

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Speaker 1: you know, both Lebron and Anthony Davis when that show

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Speaker 1: comes to town. Now, the Bulls obviously had their way

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Speaker 1: early and it was like, wow, is this going to

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Speaker 1: be the game that that flips their season? And then

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Speaker 1: l A just shut it down with sixteen point sixteen

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Speaker 1: point run there to start the fourth quarter, and it

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Speaker 1: was back to the kind of L O L Bowls,

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Speaker 1: which is how they've been this year. But yeah, there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of sizzle in that arena and you

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Speaker 1: do feel honored in a lot of ways when you're

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Speaker 1: seeing Lebron live. Yeah, and any idea. Anthony Davis had

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Speaker 1: some weird comments about wanting to play in Chicago being

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Speaker 1: a being ad agent. Was was that just being nice? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know, he went to an event the day before

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Speaker 1: that game, Doug, and he was speaking to I think

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Speaker 1: maybe some school kids, and one of them asked him and, uh,

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Speaker 1: like what she's supposed to what's supposed say? When the

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Speaker 1: school kids is like, do you want to come back

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Speaker 1: home and play? Like, no, kid, I don't like your town,

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Speaker 1: it's too cold, your team stinks. I'm playing for the

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Speaker 1: Lakers now exactly. I think he was just being a

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Speaker 1: nice guy and just kind of nodding along and saying, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we all love coming home. So the next day we're

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Speaker 1: at the shoot around and the first question to Anthony is, oh,

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Speaker 1: yesterday you said you'd be open to coming back here,

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Speaker 1: and his response was like, no, I didn't. So I

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Speaker 1: think we know. I think we know from uh seeing

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Speaker 1: the recent past. Uh, not a lot of guys want

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Speaker 1: to play for the Bulls. It's it's been struggling. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's been telling, it's been troubling, and it's been

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Speaker 1: a problem. Like you think they all want to come

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Speaker 1: back and see if they can try to relive the

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Speaker 1: glory days that you know, the Pippin Horace Grant Jordan

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Speaker 1: glory days, and not a lot of guys want to

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Speaker 1: do it, which is why they were stuck with, you know,

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Speaker 1: signing Carlos Boozer a bunch of years ago instead of

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Speaker 1: a bigger name. So now I don't think we'll be

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Speaker 1: seeing Anthony Davis back home. Yeah. You know, what's what's

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Speaker 1: fascinating about it is that they, uh, those guys weren't

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Speaker 1: alive right, Like some of those guys weren't alive during

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Speaker 1: at least the first run, if not the second run

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Speaker 1: of the Bulls. Yeah, so there's that, and I just

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Speaker 1: think that people feel like there's dysfunction in the Bulls

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Speaker 1: front office. And uh, you know, they have Fred Hoiberg.

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Speaker 1: They really don't even give him a shot because he

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Speaker 1: coaches a bunch of teams that are either not space

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Speaker 1: and pace type teams or that have injuries. And then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the team is getting healthy last

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Speaker 1: year and they fire him. So they bring in Jim Boylan.

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Speaker 1: Jim Boylan immediately, you know, it starts going to these

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Speaker 1: sort of old school methods in practice. They're joking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, calisthenics and push ups and set ups and

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, and there's a team rebellion

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Speaker 1: in the first forty eight hours. So I think free

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Speaker 1: agents are just kind of like, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of that. Uh. Last thing, Zach Levine.

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Speaker 1: He obviously has a world of talent. Yes, can they

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Speaker 1: win because of that talent? I mean, I like Zach Um.

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Speaker 1: He's had a lot of bad games this year. He

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Speaker 1: also obviously had the ridiculous game in Charlotte the other

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Speaker 1: day where he hit I think three threes in the

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Speaker 1: final forty something seconds. He's got the talent, he's got

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Speaker 1: the offensive ability. You know. The thing with him is

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Speaker 1: he's just tagged as a poor defensive player. It's not

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Speaker 1: so much on the ball defense, it's more just off

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Speaker 1: the ball defense where he kind of falls asleep and

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Speaker 1: sometimes lets his guys just you know, cut to the hoop.

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Speaker 1: So I'd like to think they can win with Zach.

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Speaker 1: He is a great personality. He'd be really good for

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Speaker 1: Chicago as a star or a superstar. Obviously loved to

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Speaker 1: be an All Star this year with the game being

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Speaker 1: in Chicago, the All Star Game, but it just hasn't

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Speaker 1: happened yet. He's a second tier guy and needs to

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Speaker 1: do some things to become a better overall player. Awesome stuff, Teddy,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the perspective and joining joining us. Last last thing, Um,

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Speaker 1: are you allowed to vote Lebron? If I go Jordan

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Speaker 1: and Lebron? I mean, if I want to survive the weekend?

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Speaker 1: I don't think I am, But I guess my thought

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Speaker 1: is maybe Lebron's is a slightly better individual player. But

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Speaker 1: I'm still going, uh, you know, I'm still going on

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Speaker 1: big picture m J man. Uh. I think he did

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Speaker 1: it in an era when it was so much harder

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Speaker 1: to score. And uh, that's my story and I'm sticking

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Speaker 1: to it fair enough while you write stories and they're

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Speaker 1: they're they're all true too, they're not they're not not fiction.

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Speaker 1: Thanks thanks for Joy's get back to covering that incredible

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Speaker 1: Northwestern football team and even better north even better and

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Speaker 1: more enigmatic and Northwestern basketball team. And I hope to

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Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Sounds great, dou could be well,

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Speaker 1: buddy h This is from Brian at Wrigley Hawk. Who

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Speaker 1: should be number one in in men's hoops? My answer

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Speaker 1: is Louisville. Here's why if you haven't been paying attention,

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Speaker 1: David Johnson and Malik Williams. David Johnson's barely played, Malik

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Speaker 1: Williams is gonna play. Malik Williams their best defender. David

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Speaker 1: Johnson is gonna be a pro. And I think Louisville

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Speaker 1: is good and they're going to get better. One of

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Speaker 1: the things you'll hear this year in college pass was

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Speaker 1: there's no dominant team. I think the translation that is

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Speaker 1: Duke's not dominant, Carolina is not dominant, right, Michigan State's

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Speaker 1: not dominant, Kentucky is not dominant, Kansas is not dominant.

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Speaker 1: But I think that Louisville remember number one recruiting class

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Speaker 1: in the country going back to last year. You also

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Speaker 1: bring back two or three of your best players from

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Speaker 1: from last season. Wara, I love Stephen Enoch. You add

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Speaker 1: in fresh Kimball, and then eventually you have David Johnson

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Speaker 1: Malick Williams playing at minimum twenty minutes of game each Louisville.

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Speaker 1: That's why they've been my number one team so far

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Speaker 1: this season. All this question again, you can ask any

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Speaker 1: of these questions at Gottlieb Show. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on LaMelo Ball as a prospect? All right, here's the

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Speaker 1: deal with LaMelo. I think his dad hurts him. He

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Speaker 1: won't be the number one overall pick no matter how

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Speaker 1: good he is, and he's playing really well in Australia

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Speaker 1: no matter how good he is. We're not blind to

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Speaker 1: this that his dad really hurt Alonzo's relationships with the

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Speaker 1: l A Lakers. He just did. He wouldn't shut up.

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Speaker 1: They kept telling him to shut up. Now his dad

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Speaker 1: has been completely out of the spotlight this year, and

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Speaker 1: there's a reason to it, because he's gotten the feedback

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Speaker 1: of Hey, nobody wants to deal with you. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: hurt your kid, and he's smartly stepped aside and by

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Speaker 1: the way, sent him and play in Australia. Great because

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Speaker 1: they're coaching him and he's he's a magician off the

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Speaker 1: ball screen. He plays with great ease and great pace,

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Speaker 1: and um, there's gonna be questions about whether or not

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Speaker 1: he will play defense. He's obviously much much longer and

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Speaker 1: appears to shoot the ball better than his other doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the pronounced hitching his shot Like I think LaMelo

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Speaker 1: Ball is gonna be a top five pick. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he'll be the number one and pick. And people

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Speaker 1: who are avoiding the elephant in the room, which is

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Speaker 1: his dad's a pain in the ass. People don't want

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Speaker 1: to deal with him. The last thing you want to

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Speaker 1: do is have a top prospect you draft and you're

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Speaker 1: trying to work with him and the dad gets in

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Speaker 1: on the commentary. They don't want to do with it.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna have to be the right organization. But

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Speaker 1: I do think that the talent is hard to deny. Um.

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Speaker 1: I would also say that part of our infatuation with

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Speaker 1: he's been the only top prospect playing that we can see.

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Speaker 1: Now that's just see Cole Anthony and Anthony Edwards and

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Speaker 1: James Wiseman and and some of the others. You start

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Speaker 1: to go like, oh, those are that's the group that

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Speaker 1: will produce the number one overall pick. But the dad

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Speaker 1: hurts him. I don't think anybody thinks otherwise. Even if

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Speaker 1: six ft seven point guard can handle it, can pass,

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Speaker 1: it can shoot, it, can he guard And what happens

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Speaker 1: when people get into him you really don't see. But

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Speaker 1: he is playing against grown men and do well in Australia. Hey,

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