1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Hey, you can't say that you're an analytic guy. You 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: can't say that you gotta go analytics. You can't say wait, wait, 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: there's a team thing and a perpon no way, I 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: thought the guy. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: All Right, we're back with Lance Brazdowski. You can check 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: out his YouTube channel. You can hear him and watch 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: him on Marquee. We'll talk cubs in a little bit. 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: But Lance, great to have you on, man, I'm excited 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: to chat more this evening on playback. We'll do the 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: all cast. Hopefully people will follow along. It's totally free 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: to sign up and watch. But are you ready for 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: a Paul Skiing start? We picked this game weeks ago, 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: so we just got lucky. We hit the lottery tonight. 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. When you guys asked me to do this, I 15 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: was looking and I was like, oh, there's a chance 16 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: Skeens lines up here, which makes this far more interesting. 17 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: So I'm very happy about that. It's gonna be a 18 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: lot of fun. 19 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, So give me your take. You're just big 20 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: picture take on Paul Skeens and his progression and how 21 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: he looks this year compared to last year. 22 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, the big thing. You're here, and I know a 23 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: lot of other people who pointed this out, but he's 24 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: thrown from a lower slot, so he slots down about 25 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: like six seven degrees, which is pretty considerable for a pitcher. 26 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: And the big thing that jumps out to me is 27 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: he's ripping a ton of that sinker splinker thing. He 28 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: jumped that usage first or second pitch of an AB 29 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: up to fifty two percent I think, relative to like 30 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 3: thirty five percent last year. That's a pretty considerable gap. 31 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: I know he talked a little about in spring training 32 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 3: about wanting to pitch like more innings go deeper into games, 33 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: and I wonder whether the slot drop that pitch looking 34 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: a bit better. Him just trying to generate contact early 35 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: incount has really forced him into that, Hey, try to 36 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: lift this pitch. It's really hard to lift. And as 37 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: a result of that, you know, maybe we see him 38 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: push more consistently into like seventh eighth inning, but I 39 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: don't know, Like I'm curious to see whether there's a 40 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: shift back to more strikeouts eventually as this season goes on. 41 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: That's an interesting balance to strike as a pitcher. We're 42 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: seeing like Hunter Green really light the world on fire 43 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: right now. Schemes may log two hundred and twenty innings, 44 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: Like I'd be awesome to see that. He's kind of 45 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: blending some of the New school in the old school, 46 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: which I think is great. 47 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think to stay on Schens here, he 48 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: has the mobility to move the ball wherever he with 49 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: each and every pitch, and with that overpowering fastball. Like 50 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: you talk about all these pitches, what is that one 51 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: pitch right now that you think is getting most guys 52 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 4: out on? Is it the splinker or is it that 53 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 4: nasty running fastball? 54 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: I think so. The thing I remember seeing I think 55 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: this is still applicable this year too. Is like a 56 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: lot of guys pitch backwards. You'll hear that a lot 57 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: on a broadcast. But he had some of the largest 58 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 3: like increase in fastball usages. He progressed into deep count 59 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: situations relative to like anybody in the league. So if 60 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: you're looking for a poster boy of pitching backwards last year, 61 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: it was Paul Skenes, and I think he's still doing 62 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: that this year. But again, I do think that splinker 63 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: is the really the pitch. It just has so much drop, 64 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: he throws it so hard. It's I imagine like for 65 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: a hit or time. It's probably like impossible to lift 66 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: that pitch. It's just I don't understand, like it's a 67 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: Logan Web style thing where it's like you gotta pray 68 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 3: that he gives it up in the zone a little 69 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: and even then you're probably still hitting it, you know, 70 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 3: one hundred and five right into the dirt. And he's 71 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: happy to take that pretty much every single time. 72 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: A flip and philosophy though from him to try to 73 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: go deeper into games because normally, if you if you 74 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: get ground balls, you don't get as many strikeouts, you 75 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: can go deeper into games. So do you think that's 76 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: maybe the difference in this little change that he has. 77 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: I think it is. I think maybe his goal this 78 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: year is to throw like two hundred plus as opposed 79 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: to striking out thirty five percent of the guys that 80 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: he sees. You know, I don't mind it. I mean, 81 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: I think the Pirates need him for as many innings 82 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: as possible given the tumultuous bullpen they had they've had 83 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: each of the last two seasons that he can't seem 84 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: to figure that out. So if he can give you 85 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: seven or eight every time he froze even if maybe 86 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: for him is a picture, it's more optimal from the 87 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: data standpoint to chase the strikeouts. If you think of 88 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: the team context of him, I'd want him throw in 89 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: the eighth inning as opposed to whoever their setup man is. 90 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Hey, you can't say that you're an analytic guy. You 91 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: can't say that you gotta go analytics. You can't say wait, 92 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: there's wait, there's a team thing and a person. No 93 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: way I thought these guys. 94 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: I said, we make the optimal decision with the robots, 95 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: and then you know, we we massage it a little bit. 96 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta have some balance, and. 97 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: Then the players got to try to do the perfect 98 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: time perfect all the time. But have the Cardinals. Have 99 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals figured out schemes? They seem to hit him 100 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: pretty good every time. It was like they had Kershaw's 101 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: number back in the day. Now do they have schemes number? 102 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: They're the one team that seems to do okay against them. 103 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Isn't 104 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: that the saying? That's where I'm gonna go on. 105 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 5: Now there you go. 106 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: As a cup he works with the Cubs. You can't 107 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: say anything nice. 108 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 5: Well, that's fine. 109 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: We can go to the Cubs, So Lance, are you 110 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: buying what they're selling on offense right now? And of 111 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: course we have to get your thoughts on this justin 112 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: Steel injury and how it affects the rotation. 113 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 5: Let's go there first. 114 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: What did you think of the injury and how it 115 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: affects the Cubs the rest of the year here and 116 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: the rotation? 117 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 5: Can they hold up? 118 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 3: It's a brutal injury. Yeah, I mean, prior to the 119 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: season they had two pitchers projected as above average starters 120 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: and it was him and showeda and now you're down 121 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: to one. So I mean, I think this team is good. 122 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: I think offensively they're fantastic. But at the beginning of 123 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: the season, and the concern was always okay, you get 124 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: this team down the stretch into September, you start thinking 125 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: about playoff situations, like who are you rolling out there? 126 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: As starting pitchers. We constantly see like those big starting pitchers, 127 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: those teams with multiple starters, the Dodgers' ability to roll 128 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: Glass now to Yamamoto, et cetera. Those teams are the 129 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: ones that are most intimidating. The Phillies do a great 130 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: job and they have so much rotation depth, and then 131 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: they got Jazusaltar, who looks fantastic. You match from a 132 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: pure pitching standpoint, staff standpoint, the Cubs right now up 133 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: with other teams, I struggle to see how they're going 134 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: to compete in that capacity. Like I think Colin Ray 135 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: is kind of a fun addition, but he's limited in innings. 136 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: Matt Boyd hasn't thrown one hundred and twenty plus in 137 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: what five or six years. Brad Keller's are really fun 138 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: reclamation project. So they have these puzzle pieces that I 139 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: think for now can bridge them to say playoff or 140 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: excuse me, all star break right around that area. But 141 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: I think this team's gonna have a lot of pressure 142 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: come to deadline to make a move and add some 143 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: kind of pitcher that you're a little more confident in. 144 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 6: AJ. 145 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 2: It is time for people to get some new clubs, 146 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: and to do that, they need to go to their 147 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: local PXG for a fitting. 148 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: Right, No doubt, I was there today, I've been there before. 149 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: Last time I was there, they gave me this killer 150 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: gap edge. Look at that sweet spot, Scott, it is 151 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: worn out. That is right in the sweet spot right there. 152 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: So I went and got new clubs today, new irons. 153 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: But more importantly, I got this bad boy. I got 154 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: me a new putter. This is my old putter. It's 155 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 1: on order. Yes, that's my putter cover PXG Mustang putter. 156 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to the Allen putter. They talked me 157 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: into it because I was draining some putts today. Bob, 158 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: the guy who helped me out, he helped me with 159 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: my irons. He got them teed up perfectly. But then 160 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: we went to the putting green. I was draining them 161 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: putts because that's the most important part of golf. 162 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 7: PXG fittings are fun. 163 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: Schedule you're fitting today, as you can hear from AJ 164 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: For a limited time, you could save up to twenty 165 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: percent on your entire order. 166 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 7: Head over to PXG dot com slash foul. That's PXG 167 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 7: dot com slash foul to save up to twenty percent 168 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 7: on your entire order. PXG dot com slash foul restrictions 169 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 7: apply see site for details. 170 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, okay, that's interesting to hear from a Cub fan. 171 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this. The Cub offense. The Cub 172 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: offense now they lead the league and run differential Scott 173 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: says it's the fakest stat of all time. Which one 174 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: is it? Are they the best team of all time 175 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: or are they the fakest team of all time. 176 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: So there's a producer here. His name is Christopher has 177 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: Nacci at Marquis. He's a good friend and he's a 178 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: huge data nerd. We have come to the agreement that 179 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: the way to do run differential is that when you 180 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: win a game by more than five runs in excess 181 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: of the five, those don't count towards your run differential 182 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: because to me, like when you blow a team out 183 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: sixteen plus at some point there you have Miguel Ross 184 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: throwing two innings, like that's just artificially inflating your run differential. 185 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: I just want to know, like when you get above 186 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: that five margin, how good you are? So throw out 187 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: If you're winning eight nothing, nine, ten to nothing, I 188 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: don't think that indicates too much of like the raw 189 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: skill of a given team. And a lot of the 190 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: time on the data side, that's what we're trying to 191 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: get into. It's like we're looking at process, We're looking 192 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: at underlying things that we can allow ourselves to be 193 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: a little bit more confident in predicting players going forward, 194 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: and uh yeah, maybe that's a hot take here. It's 195 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: it's a little bit against what a lot of people 196 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: look at from like the what you want to nerd 197 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: out and say Pythagorea and win where it's like, oh, 198 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: if this team's plus twenty four runs, then they should 199 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: be three games over five hundred or whatever it is. 200 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: But I mean, you're with in sixteen nothing, Like what's 201 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: the difference between sixteen nothing and nine nothing? Especially when 202 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: Mickey Rojas is throwing two innings. 203 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you? 204 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 6: Seven runs? 205 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: Seven runs. Fine, I'm happy to adjust it up. 206 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: If Todd and I drove in those seven we go 207 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: to arbitration, Todd, those seven runs count, don't they Oh 208 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: yeah they don't care. 209 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 5: Yeah they count. 210 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: But when we're evaluating teams, Lance, I am totally with you. 211 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: I haven't heard about that, but I like that much 212 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: more right, because you are trying to get indicators to 213 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: see our teams getting you know, cruise control wins or 214 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: are they constantly sweating out dubs? And yes, one run 215 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: record can fluctuate, although I do like one run record 216 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 2: and just winning close games. 217 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 5: I mean, I do think better bullpens can play to that. 218 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: But it is certainly a much better way to slice it. Lance, 219 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: I think that run differentiallf just gets very lazy when 220 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: we look at, you know, teams that put together, maybe 221 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: especially early in a season, a couple blowout wins and 222 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: then we're like, oh good, you know they beat the 223 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: Pirates seventeen to two. Then another time they beat him 224 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: fifteen to five, and all of a sudden it gets emplayed. 225 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: So anyway, on the offensive side, what do you think 226 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: of the Cubs offense? 227 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: Right? 228 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: You watch almost every game. Do you think it's a 229 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: much better offense this year? And it's the reason primarily 230 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker? Or is there more? 231 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 232 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: I think the reason is primarily Kyle Tucker. It's funny. 233 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: I feel like I don't know what happens off season, AJ, 234 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: but I feel like I've become a lot more turncode 235 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: here and I'm considering the other angles. But offseason, the 236 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: big angle was Okay, they need a star in that lineup, 237 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: and I was like, I mean, I get it, but 238 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: how much of a difference is that actually going to make? 239 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: And then you watch Kyle Tucker for everybody games they 240 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: play like fifteen games or so, and I mean this 241 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 3: guy's a bes are insane, Like he barrels everything that 242 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: he hits. He hits everything hard, really good swing decisions, 243 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: like he commands the zone's It's one of those things 244 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: where it just entirely changes that lineup from my perspective 245 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: in terms of who's hitting around him. That exceptional player, 246 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 3: and I mean there's they're gonna have a lot of 247 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: pressure on them, I think coming this season too or 248 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 3: off season. Excuse me to extend him and keep him 249 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: in Chicago long term? 250 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: Can they do it? Can they do it? 251 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: Not? 252 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Can they? Because we know they will they do it? Oh? 253 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 5: Lance, you got us? Oh I meant you a right here. 254 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: Hi, I am Lance. I'm gonna say that they're going 255 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: to be able to even though Yeah, by the way, 256 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: I did have a question. I didn't really want to 257 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: ask him about Mattchaut because he was their super hyph rookie. 258 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: He's got off to a bad start. I want to 259 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: know what he sees because he watches every game. He's 260 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: got a real funky Todd Have you seen his swing. 261 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: He's got a real funky swing. 262 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 263 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: He set up like I don't know, you know, I 264 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: don't even know how to. 265 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: Call that I don't know what its strange, right, it's 266 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: the big high light kicker. 267 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 6: We talking about the same guy too. 268 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's super closed off and he goes Hi Lake. 269 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 4: He's got the rent Tory, I call it, but with 270 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: the monster like kick. 271 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. 272 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, your timing's got to be really 273 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 4: perfect for that to work. 274 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 6: But he seems to have done a really good job 275 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 6: with it. Yeah. Uh well no, I mean. 276 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 5: To this point, right, he's gotten to this point. He's 277 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: gotten to this. 278 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: Point in the mighty leagues, he was fine. 279 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. Do you do you think that he might have 280 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 5: to change that up in the bigs. 281 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: It's hard to hit in the big league, Scott. 282 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. 283 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: It's hard, man, and the more moving parts you have, 284 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: the harder it is. That's why you see the guys 285 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: that are the best are super simple, super small, you know. 286 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's there's a reason why guys like Barry Bonds. 287 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: I hate to always go back to him, but like, 288 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he was very simple. He was very short, 289 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: boom direct right. The guys that are the shortest in 290 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: the directest, you know, Albert Pools was from here to here, right, 291 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: It's it's when you have a lot of moving parts, 292 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: everything has has to sink up properly. I think it's 293 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: kind of what Tyler Glasnall was talking to talking about 294 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: when he was talking about, you know, get the ball 295 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: like you're shooting three pointers, just get it and shoot. 296 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: He's what six', Eight he's got a lot of moving 297 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: parts that have to. Align when he gets that, feeling 298 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: he just wants the ball and to go, again to go, 299 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: again to go. Again. Right, so, yeah he's got a 300 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: lot of things going, on you got. It it's really 301 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: hard to sink them all. 302 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 5: UP i know. 303 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: That whenever you, see, oh guys having a, breakout you 304 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: already fixed. Something you're never hearing, like oh he got much, 305 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: longer you, know you always hear the same kind of few. Notes, 306 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: right he got more compact and shorter to the, ball 307 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: the whole. Deal lanta hearing. 308 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 3: Us, now, yes, sir sorry about that out? 309 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 6: Right all? 310 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: Right so we wanted to Get matt saw, THOUGHTS, aj 311 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: if you want to tee it. 312 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: Up, NO i was just Asking matt y'aw came up 313 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: with all the hype in the. World he was great 314 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: in the minor leagues And Todd now we're just talking 315 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: about he's got a funky. Stance do you think that 316 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: he'll be able to have the success he had in 317 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: the minor leagues because he's got so much movement with his, 318 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: hands with the way he stands his leg, kick there's 319 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: a lot of things that have to be timed. Up 320 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: can he can he figure this out for The cubs 321 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: and be a weapon for? 322 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: Him he, can BUT i do think it's gonna require some. 323 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: TINKERING i agree with. You it's a weird. Swing it's 324 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: probably one of the weirdest swings in. Baseball they had 325 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: like an overhead kind of bird's eye view of home 326 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: yesterday on The Sunday Night baseball, broadcast and you could, 327 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 3: see like when he strides that front leg almost like 328 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: comes over the plate and then drifts a little. Bit 329 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 3: he lands like super. Close AND i remember talking to 330 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: him in spring training a year ago, actually AND i 331 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: we were talking through his swing AND i was, like, 332 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: man you set up really, closed and he'd, LIKE i 333 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: don't THINK i. Do and THEN i like see him 334 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: And i'm, like, dude you're super, Closed like you, know 335 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: LIKE I Adrian, beltray, like there aren't a lot of 336 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: guys that stand that close in the modern, GAME i 337 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: feel like the stances as a whole become slightly, open 338 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: or guys start open in, step maybe more. Neutral so 339 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: it's gonna require some. Tinkering like he got chewed up 340 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: by breaking balls At TRIPLE a last. Year teams are 341 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: not throwing him a lot of. Fastball he's a really 342 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: good fastball. Hitter it's kind of guy like that inside 343 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: out swing going to right. FIELD i know a guy 344 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: Like James wood does, this and we'll see him on 345 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: the playback stream. Tonight he's super in. Out but woods 346 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: raw backspeed is like insane such that that approach can. 347 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: WORK i wouldn't Say i'm like concerned about the long 348 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: term picture Of Matt, shaw but you know it's he's 349 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: gonna have to make some. Adjustments i'm not sure if 350 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: it's toning down the lake. Kick you guys definitely had 351 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: more thoughts, THERE i, Imagine BUT i don't think like 352 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: the current version Of shaw's the one that in a 353 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: year or two's, time you're, going, yeah he's a great 354 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: piece of the, team good, defender good back to, ball et. 355 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: Cetera there's something that's going to break here that's going 356 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: to allow him to actualize that. 357 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: Upside all, Right, LANCE i want to get some other 358 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: thoughts on pitching around the. League obviously you're watching and 359 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: you're documenting changes for, pitchers anything that you've pointed out, 360 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: recently whether it's a pitch mix change that you're really 361 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: buying for a pitcher to take off the rest of the. 362 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: YEAR i, mean this question always applies to many different, 363 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: fans including ones that even play fantasy, Baseball, like what 364 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: do you like so far in the first few weeks 365 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: that you think has stickiness to? 366 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: It, YEAH i, Mean Hunter green's an interesting. One he 367 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: started last year in a very similar situation where we 368 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: saw the fastballs jump and he added a little vertical, 369 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: break it was, harder et. Cetera this, season what we're 370 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: seeing is he's just throwing it more and throwing it 371 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: directly over the plate and it's blowing through. Hitters and, 372 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: like he's one of the more fascinating guys to, me 373 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: because there aren't a lot of guys in the LEAGUE 374 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: i think that could basically throw two pitches like eighty 375 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: five ninety percent of the, time especially from the right, 376 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: side the right handed, Pitcher, LIKE i feel like a 377 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: lot of those, times a lot of the. Time you 378 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: get that from. LEFTIES i think as showed Y monaga 379 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: on The, cubs and there's probably other names there. Too 380 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: you could kind of go like fastball, change fastball split 381 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: and get through a lineup a couple of. Times green 382 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: is doing it with fastball. Slider. BASICALLY i know he's 383 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: got the splitter in his back, pocket but he doesn't 384 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: use that a. Ton the other One i'll point OUT 385 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: i just wrote. About actually my substack Is Joe. Boyle 386 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: he's got this like crazy sinker, thing AND i know 387 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: the guy's never had. Command he's with The. Athletics last 388 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: year he was throwing like a bunch of breaking, balls 389 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: but it seems like The rays cleaned up some of the. 390 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: Mechanics he's really like fastball shorter slider and this weird 391 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: sinker splitter. Thing it's a wacky pitch like he's thrown 392 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: at ninety. Three he's got a high. Slot it dives a. 393 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: Ton i'm not necessarily sure if he's gonna be like 394 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: a world beater on the command side of, things BUT i, 395 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: mean The rays are a factory in terms of being 396 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: able to turn out these, pitchers and so, FAR i 397 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: Mean i'm pretty encouraged by What i've seen From Joe. 398 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 5: Boyle, yeah you know how it. WORKS i mean it still. 399 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: Applies you get a CALL i don't think any but 400 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: still about a, pitcher and you're, like, mm the rays won. 401 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: Him hold, On actually we're gonna keep. 402 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: Him we're gonna we gotta name, it name the Pitch, 403 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: lance we gotta name The doyle. Pitch WHAT i mean 404 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,119 Speaker 1: the splinker the see. 405 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: His is more of like a true split. GRIP i showed. 406 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: This i'm gonna ACTUALLY i had to tweak it up 407 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: BEFORE i hopped on, here but it's it looks like 408 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: a true splitter to, Me like if you look at 409 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: schemes a, splinker that looks a little more like a true. 410 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: Sinker he's kind OF i don't have a ball near, 411 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: me but he's like right on the inside of the. 412 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: Horseshoe it's a weird. Spot but if you look at, 413 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: boils it's it just looks like a. Splitter So i'm 414 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: not entirely sure how he's able to pick up that 415 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: drop or what he's, doing how his body moves through 416 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: that release to be able to get that amount of 417 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: movement AT vlo and. Stuff but it's really. Impressive kudos 418 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: to him or The, rays and not entirely sure how 419 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: he came up with the, pitch but it's, sick sinky. 420 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 6: Splitter i'm fine with. 421 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: It we're always making a new stuff on the data. 422 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: Side, yeah, yeah, no, NO i, MEAN i don't know 423 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: what how they, feel But i'm a marketing, guy So 424 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: i'm all for naming a variety of. 425 00:16:59,040 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 5: Pitches. 426 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: Right it's like you talk to a kid and you're, like, oh, 427 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: CODE i sing. In they're like ghost fork. Boom we 428 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: need more of. That, Nope so just throwing it out. There, Hey, 429 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 2: Lance we're gonna do a lot more of this. Later 430 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: so rest. Up we'll talk to you on the. 431 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: Game all, Right thanks for having the guys take. 432 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: Care all, right let's move on to the. Athletics so 433 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 2: a couple things from the. Weekend first of, All Luis, 434 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 2: severino who signed With, sacramento said he told The mets 435 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: he was willing to accept less for a return than 436 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: the three year deal he got from The a's worth 437 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: sixty seven million, dollars and he actually gave the number. 438 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: Out he was willing to accept two, years forty million. 439 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: Dollars The mets quote had other plans there's a lot 440 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: to slice up here. Too number, one do you think 441 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: he should have done? 442 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 6: That? 443 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: Righty do you think a player should take twenty seven 444 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 2: million dollars less to. 445 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 5: Sign with The mets because he feels comfortable? There and 446 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 5: should The mets have taken him up on? 447 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: That they should have most definitely they should. Have over 448 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: sixty he said they wanted two for THIRTY i love 449 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 4: everything for. 450 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 5: Forty, no but he. 451 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 4: Came out and said that The mets said they would 452 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: they would do two for thirty. 453 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 5: Four, oh that's what he, Said that's what He so 454 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 5: they were six. 455 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 6: Apart they were six million. DOLLARS i watched the whole. 456 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 5: Thing, wait and do you know? Who they gave that money? 457 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 6: To Frankie montass two years thirty, four that's what they. 458 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 6: Say he said in the. 459 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 4: Interview they wanted to give me A Frankie montass, deal 460 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 4: and he said. No AND i think this would all 461 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 4: be mute if he didn't have a three, year sixty 462 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 4: seven million dollar, contract you know WHAT i? 463 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 6: Mean so he had. That you, KNOW i just don't understand. 464 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 4: It and you, know as a as a, fan you're watching, him, 465 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 4: like but, really over six million? DOLLARS i, mean but 466 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 4: he had sixty seven million in the back. Pocket so, 467 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 4: yeah he's taking twenty, million twenty seven million dollars off 468 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 4: of a. Contract this is, business one oh. One you 469 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 4: got a nickel and dime as much as you. Can 470 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: and guess what he wanted forty, million it's six million dollars. 471 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: MORE i THINK i Think coan made a mistake. Here 472 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 4: if you want the, truth he pitched well last year 473 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: they fixed his his. Tips you, know well he was 474 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 4: leaking when he was. Pitched whatever it was with his 475 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 4: breathing that everybody could tell what he was. Throwing and you, 476 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 4: KNOW i love this because you don't hear this too 477 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 4: often from, players but you, know to come out and 478 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: say that and kind of get it off your chest 479 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 4: a little, bit you, know proud of him for doing. 480 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 4: That but, yeah it, was, uh we were all taking 481 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 4: back a little bit on. 482 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: THAT i love. This we want. Honesty this is what 483 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: we always, ask Don't we always ask, Players, hey who 484 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: else offered? You what did they give? You and players 485 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: LIKE i don't really want to talk about. It good for. 486 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: You Luis, savarino. Awesome you want to say you want 487 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: to throw The mets straight under the. Bus you just did. 488 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: It beep, peep peep, peep and it's backing up peep. 489 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: Peep it went over him and NOW i was backing 490 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: the back up. AGAIN i love? This are you kidding? 491 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: Me this is? 492 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: Awesome tell, people why is it such a secret who 493 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: offered you and what they offered? You why are we 494 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: keeping it? Down you know? What he was happy In New. 495 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: York he wanted to go back for. Less he ended 496 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: up getting more In. Sacramento, yes or The sacramento As 497 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: i'll say, It but it's. AWESOME i think this is. 498 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: GREAT i think it's good for the. Game he lets 499 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: other people know what they're. Thinking and you know everyone that, says, 500 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: oh The mets are you, know spending all this, money 501 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: spend all this money where they're trying to be a 502 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: little thrifty on certain. Guys for a guy that wanted 503 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: to come, back six million dollars isn't a lot for 504 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: a two year, Deal so good on, You. Severino and, 505 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: yeah Like todd, said this doesn't look great on The 506 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: mets because they could have used. Him he was healthy 507 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: for him and he pitched well for, him SO i don't, 508 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: know but he got his, money so even better for. 509 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 4: You, yeah, yeah AND i, think you, know to go 510 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: on your, point you know why players don't do it 511 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: BECAUSE i think most of them they try and whether 512 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 4: they're whatever deal they had and whoever they talk, to 513 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 4: they're hoping that they don't get black ball by other. 514 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 6: Teams like this guy's got the. 515 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 4: Voice we don't want him on there because guess what 516 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 4: he's gonna blurt out our. BUSINESS i think that's probably 517 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: the only. Reason BUT i Think severino understands this is 518 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 4: gonna be his biggest contract and unless all of a 519 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: sudden he comes out and you, know turns Into Nolan 520 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 4: ryan or whatever it. 521 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 6: Is but, yes he's no. 522 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,239 Speaker 5: Idiot good for, him, yeah and for The. 523 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: Mets so, basically they were, like we got thirty four 524 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 2: mil if you if you take, that we'll take. 525 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 5: You otherwise we're giving it To. 526 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: Montas see, no, no, no, yeah they want that what 527 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 4: they Gave montoss. 528 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 6: To they, said we're going to give you The montas. 529 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 6: Deal that's. It takeer to leave it from what he. 530 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: Was, Well i'm sorry they don't have the same track 531 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: record over the past. Year sorry about, it aj to. 532 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: ME i, mean obviously we were hard on them when 533 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: they did that. Deal and it has an opt out 534 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: after your, one which is not going to take now 535 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 2: because he's. Hurt but to, me those pitchers are not 536 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: in the same category right. Now they might be for 537 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: them based ON i don't, know some peripheral numbers they're looking, 538 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: at but to, me they're not in the same. 539 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 8: Category, Listen Luisa reno pitched In New york last, year pitched, 540 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 8: well so they know he can handle it, right pitch 541 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 8: huge playoff games for. 542 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: Him Frankie montoss came over to The yankees and this 543 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: is sad AND i hate saying, this but he didn't. 544 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: Pitch he was, hurt so you don't know how he's 545 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: going to react to being In New york and now 546 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: he's hurt, again and that's a. Shame but you had 547 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: a proven track record guy that was going to sign 548 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: a deal for less, money and you, say, NO i don't, know, 549 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: man that's that's just not the WAY i would want 550 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: to run an. Organization but, again mets, money they can 551 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: do whatever they. Want was Not, Michael but good for 552 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: you Se marino for getting a better. 553 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: Deal and now we're going to track those two even 554 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: more so to see who has you, know the better 555 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: second half because Obviously montas is out for a, minute 556 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: and maybe who factors into the. Playoffs did you guys 557 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: see the minor league bullpen cart run out of steam 558 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: this weekend for The. A'S i think we got, it 559 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: but they had to get another car to backup. Car 560 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: it is minor league, BASEBALL i. THINK i think they 561 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 2: said it on The mets broadcast at, one but they're, 562 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 2: like this is the minor, leagues this is what. 563 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 5: Happens how does that? 564 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: Happen? Though how does it Have i've never how does it? 565 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: Say it's what's a series? On? That WASN'T seri on 566 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: that from when he felled them off his? Shin, yeah 567 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: and they had to. Go they had to go first of, All, 568 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: TODD i don't know about, you but have you ever 569 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: felt the ball for shin so bad you needed a 570 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: bullpen card to take you off the. 571 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 6: Field, Uh. 572 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 4: I've had a bad, one but NOTHING I i've usually 573 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: walked it. 574 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 6: OFF i. 575 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: KNOW i thought that was, funny BUT i mean not. 576 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: Funny it's. Sad he was. Hurt, honey they needed the, 577 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: cart and then of course they call the cart it 578 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: runs out of, Gas, like don't don't they don't they 579 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: check these things before they take them on the. Field, 580 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: SCOTT i don't, know. 581 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: DAMN I i would, hope, SO i would hope so 582 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: you would, think, right, yeah we we got some struggles 583 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: out there in Sack tooe right. NOW i, mean there 584 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: could be worth feeling. 585 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 5: It it could be, worse and it might get worse, 586 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 5: Worse it could be. 587 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: Worse how did you see the pictures they showed to 588 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: the crowds the other? Day there was like nobody at the. 589 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 7: Games yeah, Playing i'm playing The. 590 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: Mets they're playing The. Mets that's a big market team 591 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: with fans, everywhere you, know so far As sacramento they've 592 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: had they've had The, cubs The, padres and The. Mets 593 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: wait till The rockies or someone like that comes into 594 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: town now that they knocking The rockies, Fans but they're. 595 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: Not they don't have the national following that The, cubs 596 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: especially The cubs and The mets and even The padres 597 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: do because they're not that far. Away SO i don't, 598 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: KNOW i DON'T i don't. 599 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 6: Know we'll see not good. 600 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: SONG i genuinely thought that they would have more excitement 601 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: just because they're getting a major league team for a 602 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: little bit of. 603 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 5: Time BUT i think there's a stench going. 604 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: On they didn't want. 605 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 6: It. 606 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: Though if you name it The Sacramento, a's even for 607 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: a couple of, years the people will get behind. It 608 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: but by saying, oh we're not going to claim, you 609 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: we're just using you for a couple of, years people 610 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: In sacramento are. 611 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: Like, What, yeah it's a good call. Things, hey we'll 612 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: get to this part here from The a's as. Well 613 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: this could be good news for. Them Nick kurtz was 614 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: their first round pick last year at a Wake. Forest 615 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: he can really hit. Fourth, overall his position is hit. Her, 616 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 2: okay his first, baseman but hit. Her he'll PROBABLY dh, 617 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 2: yeah and they probably want to call him up pretty SOON, 618 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: Aj but they're going to start to have to play 619 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: a little bit of musical. Chairs rooker hadn't played the 620 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: outfield in a. Year they put him out. There they're 621 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: hoping to have him And butler on the corners because 622 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: then you've Got. Kurtz soderstrom is swinging the crap out 623 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 2: of the the bat right. Now but you can't you 624 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: CAN'T dh. Everybody so If rooker is going to play, 625 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: outfield then you could Put soderstrum And kurts in a 626 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: little mix at first base and one of them at 627 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: THE h seems like that's going to be the, plan 628 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: and probably soon Because kurts can really help. 629 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 5: THEM i think he's ready, now you're. 630 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: Right he can. Swing he's been raking tou and plus 631 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, what he's in TRIPLE, a, RIGHT. 632 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: M i Think i'm almost. Positive, yeah, yeah, okay, YEAH 633 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 5: i thought he. Was so it's either double or. Triple 634 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 5: it's upper miners. 635 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: Like it's either. One it doesn't. Matter, yeah it doesn't. 636 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: Matter he needs to if he can help, triple he 637 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: needs to be. There, yeah he's in TRIPLE, a, right 638 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: he's In. Vegas SO i think that if he needs 639 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: to be, there if he can help, them he needs 640 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: to be. There they're not gaining anything by keeping him 641 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: down service time. WISE i know we don't talk about 642 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: it as much because they've tried to eliminate, it but 643 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: it still is if he's ready to be, there you, 644 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: know service time manipulation is still a thing for. 645 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 3: Teams i'm. 646 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 2: Sorry, Right, Oh so you're saying they're going to keep 647 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: him down for a little bit and wait until the 648 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: well we're already pretty day at that, point right for 649 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: the service time. Clock but you're saying maybe the super 650 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: two o'clock. 651 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: Too all of. It that's what the that's what the 652 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: service time manipulation is to dodge the super, two because 653 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: then you have to an extra year of, arbitration. 654 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: RIGHT i do think Though rooker is a sign that 655 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: they're getting ready for, that that they need to start 656 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 2: getting him some outfield. 657 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 5: Time, again, TRUE a, GREAT a. 658 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: GREAT i don't. KNOW i just think if he can help, 659 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: him he needs to be. There Like i'm a big 660 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: believer as a former, player AND i Think todd would 661 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: feel the same. Way, like if a guy can help us, 662 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: win let's get him. HERE i don't care about service. Time, 663 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: again it's not my, money it's not my service. Time, 664 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: like if a guy can help us in the minor, 665 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: leagues let's bring him, up and let's put him in 666 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: a situation to help, us because there's no tomorrow. Guaranteed. 667 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: No this kid's been the best hitter in the minor 668 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: leagues the first couple of weeks of the. 669 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 5: Year, yeah you, know and. 670 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: He played obviously advanced college fall he was a stud in. 671 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: College and, yeah he looks unfazed so. Far he looks 672 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: like he's. READY i, know it's, quick