WEBVTT - BREAKING NEWS: Grant Has Entered the Chat

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost Famous listeners. It's been here jumping in for some

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<v Speaker 2>breaking news. Lots of stuff out there on the internet

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<v Speaker 2>right now talking about bachelor. Grant ellis, yes, our most

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<v Speaker 2>recent bachelor. Obviously, there's been a breakup from his season already,

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<v Speaker 2>not a very long lived relationship, but a relationship. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been out quite often now talking about moving on

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<v Speaker 2>since his engagement ending.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I do have a perspective on this. I have

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<v Speaker 3>been in this in a very similar situation on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>A bachelor, have a breakup, try to get out into

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<v Speaker 2>the world however you can. But let me give you

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<v Speaker 2>a little background here, just in case you are unfamiliar.

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<v Speaker 2>Grant got on Instagram. He did a live answering questions

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<v Speaker 2>just from listeners as they came in. We reacted to

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<v Speaker 2>this live, obviously, we jumped on, we talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a big deal. It is a big headline.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime there is a relationship or a relationship ending, it

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<v Speaker 2>does make headwaves. And the thing that stood out to

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<v Speaker 2>me was he said he wasn't heartbroken. Now that feels

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<v Speaker 2>odd to me, So I mean, I don't know their situation. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't see even a lot on the season. There

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a lot of buy in from the audience. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to come at me on that, well,

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<v Speaker 2>look at the ratings from the season, look at the

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<v Speaker 2>response from the season, looking the kind of the news

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<v Speaker 2>from that season. There just wasn't a lot of connection

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<v Speaker 2>with the contestants or with Grant coming off of that season,

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<v Speaker 2>which some would claim is probably why The Bachelor is

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<v Speaker 2>still kind of in hiatus at this point and they've

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<v Speaker 2>moved on to announcing the Golden Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead, But.

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<v Speaker 2>So's I guess. My point is it's hard to really

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<v Speaker 2>understand what's going on in this relationship behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I do know is when a relationship ends

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<v Speaker 2>from the show, there is heartbreak. There's heartbreak for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of reasons, especially when you go into a show

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<v Speaker 2>hoping you can find love, hoping that maybe this environment,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter how weird it is, could bring you your

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<v Speaker 2>forever partner if you go into it with the mindset of, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this could be the avenue in which I find my

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<v Speaker 2>forever love. When it doesn't work out, there is heartbreak,

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<v Speaker 2>There is pain, and then you have the obviously the

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<v Speaker 2>dynamic of the public pouring in their opinions, pouring in

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<v Speaker 2>their comments, and there is more pain because typically when

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<v Speaker 2>there is a breakup, sides are chosen. You pick one side,

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<v Speaker 2>you pick the other. Nobody really sits in the middle,

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<v Speaker 2>just not the way reality television works. And so there's

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<v Speaker 2>pain because you're getting hit from both sides. Well, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think for Grant, I think right now from watching

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<v Speaker 2>the live and then obviously kind of listening to Ashley

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<v Speaker 2>and Trista's reaction to it, I think Grant is in

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<v Speaker 2>a season of protection. I think he is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>protect himself. I don't think the reality has hit him yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this is the ending to his kind of one

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<v Speaker 2>thing that came from the show. If we're honest, this

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<v Speaker 2>was his big moment. This relationship was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that maybe sustained from the show. But with

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<v Speaker 2>this ending, a lot of doors will be closed. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the way breakups work. From the show as well. They

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<v Speaker 2>love you as a couple. When that ends, you're just

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<v Speaker 2>one of many who haven't worked out from the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's fine, but you have to get to that

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<v Speaker 2>reality as quickly as possible. So he's kind of in

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<v Speaker 2>this sea enough protection. I think they're both doing the

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<v Speaker 2>best they can. It's not you can kind of read

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<v Speaker 2>through the lines on Juliana's and his post that there

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<v Speaker 2>was trouble in Paradise. They're both kind of claiming that

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<v Speaker 2>it was all fine and they just didn't work out,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's hard to believe when both are kind of

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<v Speaker 2>moving on quickly and sharing these messages, little messages that

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<v Speaker 2>seem the point that there was a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>trouble than what they're leading on, and maybe we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to the bottom of that over time. I don't love

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<v Speaker 2>when couples break up from the show and they immediately

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<v Speaker 2>come out kind of bashing the other person. Breakups happen,

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<v Speaker 2>they do not everybody gets along. That's the truth of

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<v Speaker 2>the matter, that's relatable for all of us, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't love when they bash right away. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do love when we do get to the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the story over time because we've invested so much in

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<v Speaker 2>their relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's where things get interesting. Giving you the background.

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<v Speaker 2>After Trista and Ashley spoke about his Instagram live and

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<v Speaker 2>shared their thoughts, both positive and critiques, we posted on

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<v Speaker 2>our Instagram. The Almost Famous Podcast Instagram a video of

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley and Trista talking about his Instagram Live Well. Grant

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<v Speaker 2>commented on the post. He saw it and commented, now

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<v Speaker 2>this post that he made has now been deleted. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's an unfair post for him to make,

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<v Speaker 2>but he deleted it. Anyways, this is what it says.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll read it to Grant Ellis posts on The Almost

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<v Speaker 2>Famous Podcast Instagram. He says, everyone is criticizing and I

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<v Speaker 2>get that I did everything I could to try to.

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<v Speaker 3>Make the relationship work. So did Juliana.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, I am able to distance my feelings when

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<v Speaker 2>something isn't for me. A lesson learned over a heartbreak

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<v Speaker 2>any day. Again, I don't think this is an unfair

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<v Speaker 2>comment for him. It does to me. Now this is

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<v Speaker 2>my personal opinion. I want to be clear on that

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<v Speaker 2>it comes off a little cold if just a few

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<v Speaker 2>months ago we were watching not even a few months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>we were watching them come out publicly. They were asking

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<v Speaker 2>for the public support of their relationship. They were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about their futures together, they were talking about moving in together.

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<v Speaker 2>They were claiming that the reason we haven't seen them

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<v Speaker 2>together is because of the distance, but that was going.

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<v Speaker 3>To be a solution here soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley, my co host, had, just like she does oftentimes,

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<v Speaker 2>she had made the assumption that things weren't good between

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<v Speaker 2>the two of them. She'd said that publicly to many

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<v Speaker 2>people's criticism.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though she was right.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're one of those people, you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>go apologize to her. This comes off a little cold,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think it's an unfair comment for him

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<v Speaker 2>to make. Again, I think he's enough season of protection.

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<v Speaker 2>He is trying to move on past this, to try

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what life looks like beyond the relationship

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<v Speaker 2>and beyond the Bachelor. He is trying to get back

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<v Speaker 2>out into the world and date. Why his fire is

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<v Speaker 2>still burning from the show and goodness, gracious, we've had

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation on almost of his podcast. How quickly is

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<v Speaker 2>too quickly to move on from a breakup. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if there's any amount of time that it's too quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you call it quits. Goodness, you can get out

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<v Speaker 2>there and and date around. So I don't blame him

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<v Speaker 2>for trying to get out there and date, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think where the public is getting upset and probably why

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<v Speaker 2>he deleted his post because the comments on it weren't

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<v Speaker 2>super positive. Is because we are still invested in his

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with Juliana. There was one thing to come from

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<v Speaker 2>that season where we were frustrated because of the disconnection

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<v Speaker 2>with the show in itself. We still could have a

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<v Speaker 2>connection to Hey, this couple could work, this couple could

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<v Speaker 2>make something happen, and we would be really excited about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So once that ended, we're like, well, what was all

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<v Speaker 2>this for?

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<v Speaker 3>What was the point?

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<v Speaker 2>We had a season that we didn't connect with any

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<v Speaker 2>of the contestants. Really, we had a season that felt

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<v Speaker 2>like the Bachelor didn't want to be there half the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was many months of our life and a

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<v Speaker 2>really critical season for the show because it was coming

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<v Speaker 2>off a Joey season which was such a success in

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<v Speaker 2>so many ways that it frustrated us because there was

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<v Speaker 2>so much missing and now what we missed from it

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<v Speaker 2>is any love story at all. Anyways, as I made

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<v Speaker 2>he did delete the post, so he obviously was feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that the comments were not going in a direction he appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of have the standard of once I put

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<v Speaker 2>something on in the public, it stays out in the public.

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<v Speaker 2>I want people to hear my thoughts, even if they

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<v Speaker 2>would disagree, but he does have the right to delete it,

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<v Speaker 2>and he did so. It leads us now to this

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<v Speaker 2>moment where the shows producers have asked me to share

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<v Speaker 2>any advice I have.

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<v Speaker 3>For granted, I don't have a lot of advice.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't love to give advice into situations I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>oblivious on I guess my words of wisdom would be this.

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<v Speaker 3>Too shall pass. But also.

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<v Speaker 2>My words of wisdom would be you were the Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 2>which comes with a weight of people investing into your

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<v Speaker 2>relationship and into your life. You agreed to that, if

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<v Speaker 2>nothing else. You agreed for people to have a microscopic

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<v Speaker 2>view for a period of time into your dating and

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<v Speaker 2>into your relationships. And if you wanted to do this

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<v Speaker 2>show for the right reasons, you wanted people to invest

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<v Speaker 2>into you so that they could root for you, they

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<v Speaker 2>could invest into your future, into your love, and so

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sweeping this under moving on so quickly in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ways, feels like a disregard for a

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<v Speaker 2>fan base who was rooting for you. And so maybe

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<v Speaker 2>take a step back and realize that it doesn't sit

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<v Speaker 2>well with an audience that watch you to fall in

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<v Speaker 2>love for you to just brush it under so quickly

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<v Speaker 2>and move on so quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great that you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Able to disassociate your feelings when things don't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean that the people who have supported you

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<v Speaker 2>and rooted for you can do the same. You owe

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<v Speaker 2>them nothing. I think that would be a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people's commentary. You owe them nothing, But you did agree

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<v Speaker 2>to be the Bachelor, which means that you did agree

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<v Speaker 2>to open your life up to a world of all

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<v Speaker 2>of these things for a long period of time. And

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<v Speaker 2>what I want for Grant personally is for him to

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<v Speaker 2>take away from this experience the doors that have been

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<v Speaker 2>opened for him and pursue those things that enhance as

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<v Speaker 2>the advice that was given to me enhance the life

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<v Speaker 2>you already had before. But also to appreciate and respect

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<v Speaker 2>that this franchise invested a lot into him and to

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<v Speaker 2>their relationship, and understand that fans might not just be

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<v Speaker 2>okay with this nonchalant, I'm all good, back out in

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<v Speaker 2>the market kind of mentality so quickly after telling all

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<v Speaker 2>of us that you were moving in with Juliana. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to move on that quickly for us. So but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I hope for both of them that they

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<v Speaker 2>can take a step into whatever love looks like now,

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<v Speaker 2>but also to realize that, yeah, to realize it won't

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<v Speaker 2>be easy because people still remember you from being engaged

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<v Speaker 2>on a show. We hope to hear from Grant. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to talk to him. If we don't get to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to him, I'm sure you can find him on

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram live. Well, that's the breaking news, Grant Ellis has

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<v Speaker 2>commented on the Almost Famous Instagram. That comment has since

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<v Speaker 2>been deleted if you out looking for it. It sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like Grant is trying to protect and that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a weird time to have a public breakup. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been Almost Famous podcast until next time.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been bed.

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