1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Almost Famous listeners. It's been here jumping in for some 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: breaking news. Lots of stuff out there on the internet 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: right now talking about bachelor. Grant ellis, yes, our most 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: recent bachelor. Obviously, there's been a breakup from his season already, 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: not a very long lived relationship, but a relationship. Nonetheless, 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: he's been out quite often now talking about moving on 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: since his engagement ending. 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: Now, I do have a perspective on this. I have 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: been in this in a very similar situation on the show. 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: A bachelor, have a breakup, try to get out into 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: the world however you can. But let me give you 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: a little background here, just in case you are unfamiliar. 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: Grant got on Instagram. He did a live answering questions 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: just from listeners as they came in. We reacted to 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: this live, obviously, we jumped on, we talked about it. 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: It is a big deal. It is a big headline. 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: Anytime there is a relationship or a relationship ending, it 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: does make headwaves. And the thing that stood out to 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: me was he said he wasn't heartbroken. Now that feels 22 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: odd to me, So I mean, I don't know their situation. Obviously, 23 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: we didn't see even a lot on the season. There 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: wasn't a lot of buy in from the audience. And 25 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: if you want to come at me on that, well, 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: look at the ratings from the season, look at the 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: response from the season, looking the kind of the news 28 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: from that season. There just wasn't a lot of connection 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: with the contestants or with Grant coming off of that season, 30 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: which some would claim is probably why The Bachelor is 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: still kind of in hiatus at this point and they've 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: moved on to announcing the Golden Bachelor. 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: Instead, But. 34 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: So's I guess. My point is it's hard to really 35 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: understand what's going on in this relationship behind the scenes. 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: But what I do know is when a relationship ends 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: from the show, there is heartbreak. There's heartbreak for a 38 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: lot of reasons, especially when you go into a show 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 2: hoping you can find love, hoping that maybe this environment, 40 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: no matter how weird it is, could bring you your 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: forever partner if you go into it with the mindset of, hey, 42 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: this could be the avenue in which I find my 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: forever love. When it doesn't work out, there is heartbreak, 44 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: There is pain, and then you have the obviously the 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: dynamic of the public pouring in their opinions, pouring in 46 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: their comments, and there is more pain because typically when 47 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: there is a breakup, sides are chosen. You pick one side, 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: you pick the other. Nobody really sits in the middle, 49 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: just not the way reality television works. And so there's 50 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: pain because you're getting hit from both sides. Well, so 51 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: I think for Grant, I think right now from watching 52 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: the live and then obviously kind of listening to Ashley 53 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: and Trista's reaction to it, I think Grant is in 54 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: a season of protection. I think he is trying to 55 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: protect himself. I don't think the reality has hit him yet. 56 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: Of this is the ending to his kind of one 57 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: thing that came from the show. If we're honest, this 58 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: was his big moment. This relationship was going to be 59 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: the thing that maybe sustained from the show. But with 60 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: this ending, a lot of doors will be closed. It's 61 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: the way breakups work. From the show as well. They 62 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: love you as a couple. When that ends, you're just 63 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: one of many who haven't worked out from the show, 64 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: and that's fine, but you have to get to that 65 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: reality as quickly as possible. So he's kind of in 66 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: this sea enough protection. I think they're both doing the 67 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: best they can. It's not you can kind of read 68 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: through the lines on Juliana's and his post that there 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: was trouble in Paradise. They're both kind of claiming that 70 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: it was all fine and they just didn't work out, 71 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: and that's hard to believe when both are kind of 72 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: moving on quickly and sharing these messages, little messages that 73 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: seem the point that there was a little bit more 74 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: trouble than what they're leading on, and maybe we'll get 75 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: to the bottom of that over time. I don't love 76 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: when couples break up from the show and they immediately 77 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: come out kind of bashing the other person. Breakups happen, 78 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 2: they do not everybody gets along. That's the truth of 79 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: the matter, that's relatable for all of us, and so 80 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: I don't love when they bash right away. But I 81 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: do love when we do get to the bottom of 82 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: the story over time because we've invested so much in 83 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: their relationship. 84 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: Here's where things get interesting. Giving you the background. 85 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: After Trista and Ashley spoke about his Instagram live and 86 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: shared their thoughts, both positive and critiques, we posted on 87 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: our Instagram. The Almost Famous Podcast Instagram a video of 88 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: Ashley and Trista talking about his Instagram Live Well. Grant 89 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: commented on the post. He saw it and commented, now 90 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: this post that he made has now been deleted. I 91 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: don't think it's an unfair post for him to make, 92 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: but he deleted it. Anyways, this is what it says. 93 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: I'll read it to Grant Ellis posts on The Almost 94 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: Famous Podcast Instagram. He says, everyone is criticizing and I 95 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: get that I did everything I could to try to. 96 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: Make the relationship work. So did Juliana. 97 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: He says, I am able to distance my feelings when 98 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: something isn't for me. A lesson learned over a heartbreak 99 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: any day. Again, I don't think this is an unfair 100 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: comment for him. It does to me. Now this is 101 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: my personal opinion. I want to be clear on that 102 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 2: it comes off a little cold if just a few 103 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: months ago we were watching not even a few months ago, 104 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: we were watching them come out publicly. They were asking 105 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: for the public support of their relationship. They were talking 106 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: about their futures together, they were talking about moving in together. 107 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: They were claiming that the reason we haven't seen them 108 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: together is because of the distance, but that was going. 109 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: To be a solution here soon. 110 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: Ashley, my co host, had, just like she does oftentimes, 111 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: she had made the assumption that things weren't good between 112 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: the two of them. She'd said that publicly to many 113 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: people's criticism. 114 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: Even though she was right. 115 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: So if you're one of those people, you've got to 116 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: go apologize to her. This comes off a little cold, 117 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: but I don't think it's an unfair comment for him 118 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: to make. Again, I think he's enough season of protection. 119 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: He is trying to move on past this, to try 120 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: to figure out what life looks like beyond the relationship 121 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: and beyond the Bachelor. He is trying to get back 122 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: out into the world and date. Why his fire is 123 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: still burning from the show and goodness, gracious, we've had 124 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: this conversation on almost of his podcast. How quickly is 125 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: too quickly to move on from a breakup. I don't 126 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: know if there's any amount of time that it's too quick. 127 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: Once you call it quits. Goodness, you can get out 128 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: there and and date around. So I don't blame him 129 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: for trying to get out there and date, but I 130 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: think where the public is getting upset and probably why 131 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: he deleted his post because the comments on it weren't 132 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: super positive. Is because we are still invested in his 133 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: relationship with Juliana. There was one thing to come from 134 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: that season where we were frustrated because of the disconnection 135 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: with the show in itself. We still could have a 136 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: connection to Hey, this couple could work, this couple could 137 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: make something happen, and we would be really excited about that. 138 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: So once that ended, we're like, well, what was all 139 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: this for? 140 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: What was the point? 141 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 2: We had a season that we didn't connect with any 142 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: of the contestants. Really, we had a season that felt 143 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: like the Bachelor didn't want to be there half the time, 144 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: and it was many months of our life and a 145 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: really critical season for the show because it was coming 146 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: off a Joey season which was such a success in 147 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: so many ways that it frustrated us because there was 148 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: so much missing and now what we missed from it 149 00:08:54,840 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: is any love story at all. Anyways, as I made 150 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: he did delete the post, so he obviously was feeling 151 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: that the comments were not going in a direction he appreciated. 152 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: I kind of have the standard of once I put 153 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: something on in the public, it stays out in the public. 154 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: I want people to hear my thoughts, even if they 155 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 2: would disagree, but he does have the right to delete it, 156 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: and he did so. It leads us now to this 157 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: moment where the shows producers have asked me to share 158 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: any advice I have. 159 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: For granted, I don't have a lot of advice. 160 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: I don't love to give advice into situations I'm so 161 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: oblivious on I guess my words of wisdom would be this. 162 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,479 Speaker 3: Too shall pass. But also. 163 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: My words of wisdom would be you were the Bachelor, 164 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: which comes with a weight of people investing into your 165 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: relationship and into your life. You agreed to that, if 166 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: nothing else. You agreed for people to have a microscopic 167 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: view for a period of time into your dating and 168 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: into your relationships. And if you wanted to do this 169 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: show for the right reasons, you wanted people to invest 170 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: into you so that they could root for you, they 171 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: could invest into your future, into your love, and so 172 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: kind of sweeping this under moving on so quickly in 173 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: a lot of ways, feels like a disregard for a 174 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: fan base who was rooting for you. And so maybe 175 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: take a step back and realize that it doesn't sit 176 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: well with an audience that watch you to fall in 177 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 2: love for you to just brush it under so quickly 178 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: and move on so quickly. 179 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: It's great that you're. 180 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: Able to disassociate your feelings when things don't work out. 181 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that the people who have supported you 182 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 2: and rooted for you can do the same. You owe 183 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: them nothing. I think that would be a lot of 184 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: people's commentary. You owe them nothing, But you did agree 185 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: to be the Bachelor, which means that you did agree 186 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: to open your life up to a world of all 187 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: of these things for a long period of time. And 188 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: what I want for Grant personally is for him to 189 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: take away from this experience the doors that have been 190 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: opened for him and pursue those things that enhance as 191 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: the advice that was given to me enhance the life 192 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: you already had before. But also to appreciate and respect 193 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: that this franchise invested a lot into him and to 194 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: their relationship, and understand that fans might not just be 195 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 2: okay with this nonchalant, I'm all good, back out in 196 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: the market kind of mentality so quickly after telling all 197 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: of us that you were moving in with Juliana. It's 198 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: hard to move on that quickly for us. So but 199 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: you know, I hope for both of them that they 200 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 2: can take a step into whatever love looks like now, 201 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: but also to realize that, yeah, to realize it won't 202 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: be easy because people still remember you from being engaged 203 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: on a show. We hope to hear from Grant. I'd 204 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: love to talk to him. If we don't get to 205 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: talk to him, I'm sure you can find him on 206 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: Instagram live. Well, that's the breaking news, Grant Ellis has 207 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: commented on the Almost Famous Instagram. That comment has since 208 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: been deleted if you out looking for it. It sounds 209 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: like Grant is trying to protect and that makes sense. 210 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: It's a weird time to have a public breakup. It's 211 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: been Almost Famous podcast until next time. 212 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: I've been bed. 213 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 214 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.