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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Mickey Spagnola. Well, the sun really didn't come up today.
Speaker 1: Here hid inside the s to BBC podcast studio. Somehow
Speaker 1: we made it through the wintry weather. No it's not over. Well, no,
Speaker 1: we've made it here to the studio. No, no, we haven't. No,
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about the drive home. Yes, snow for real
Speaker 1: to the north. It's late afternoon to the north of us.
Speaker 1: Well we're north, yeah, yeah, to the north of us though,
Speaker 1: we're kind of on that line. So will we miss
Speaker 1: the weather man? Will we be in? Well? Do you
Speaker 1: trust whether people with their prognostications? If you trust whether
Speaker 1: people with their prognostications, it's not going to hit the Metroplex.
Speaker 1: Apparently the ground that has changed. It's the ground as
Speaker 1: far as creating um bad driving driving conditions because the
Speaker 1: ground is too far. I tried. But the point is, yes,
Speaker 1: the sun did not come up today. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to ask you. I figured out there were it came up. Addition,
Speaker 1: come out there were there were seven. Let me see
Speaker 1: my list too old fashion newspaper. Look at Mickey, he's
Speaker 1: got the old newspaper that costs three dollars on the
Speaker 1: news standing seven teams had twelve wins or more. Okay,
Speaker 1: how many of those teams are people asking questions of
Speaker 1: about the head coach's job? One? Yes, just us? Just one?
Speaker 1: No Buffalo, no right, no, Minnesota, no Minnesota No. Just
Speaker 1: how many with two straight seasons of twelve wins or
Speaker 1: more are the one? I'm gonna guess. Just watch. I
Speaker 1: didn't do the research, but just one. Amazing, isn't it?
Speaker 1: It really is? And not just that. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can take the quarterback on out of there with you.
Speaker 1: Cousins is probably still, you know, enjoying that big contract.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Josh Allen, Oh man, he's the darler. He
Speaker 1: got commercials to make you know. I hadn't seen the
Speaker 1: guy so blessed and so coveted in a long time.
Speaker 1: I Mean, we talk about the Cowboys and their problems,
Speaker 1: Buffalo losing at home in their own snow. They had
Speaker 1: their own snow like that their own Yeah, snow, they
Speaker 1: deserved their own manufacture snow and Buffalo, and they still
Speaker 1: couldn't win, still couldn't win at home. And they're used
Speaker 1: to it, right, and and everybody's still talking about that.
Speaker 1: Nobody's talking about Josh. Nobody's talking about it is amazing.
Speaker 1: They love Josh. As a matter of fact, I saw
Speaker 1: some headline and they used a picture of Brett Maher
Speaker 1: and part the first part of the story that have
Speaker 1: nothing to do with them. I think I think Brett
Speaker 1: just kind of typifies the well, what competence. So someplace
Speaker 1: it's so when I read finally down, someplace called super
Speaker 1: Book placed odds on five to one if he would
Speaker 1: make his first extra point, Wow, if he would make
Speaker 1: the not if he misses. It wasn't about they get blocked. Uh,
Speaker 1: it counted because, as everyone pointed out, it was gonna
Speaker 1: miss anyone. The largest, the largest bet at five. There
Speaker 1: were so many people putting money on it that they
Speaker 1: reduced it to three to one. Wow. But somebody that
Speaker 1: had five to one put a thousand dollars on it,
Speaker 1: and he collected that's an easy person collect an easy
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, that's an easy bet. They'll be nervous.
Speaker 1: All right, this mattress mac, Yes, saw that Houston? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you see that? Yeah? What was it? A two million dollars?
Speaker 1: He uh, he had two million dollars at Caesar's in
Speaker 1: New York. He placed it on the Cowboys to win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well they didn't. But he also had a promotion offer
Speaker 1: that if customers spent three thousand dollars with him and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys won, he'd give them their money back. So
Speaker 1: nobody got Yeah, all right. He did the same thing
Speaker 1: for TCU or against tc OR. He was four TCU,
Speaker 1: he bet he bet four TCU in the National Championship
Speaker 1: game against Georgia. Does I know he does it all
Speaker 1: the time? Money with the Astros, Right, he's a Houston guy. Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can he stay out of our business here at Dallas.
Speaker 1: The thing with that guys along along with the governor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm sorry, Chris, I was gonna say. Is
Speaker 1: the way he does it is is like before the seasons,
Speaker 1: like the Houston wins the World Series, you get your
Speaker 1: your money back on the mattresses. So he plays the
Speaker 1: odds where like how many people he has to get
Speaker 1: the money back to, and he does the reverse on
Speaker 1: the other side. Does that make sense? You can pay them.
Speaker 1: But how about this one, Now, this was a really
Speaker 1: good one. Some place had a you had to play
Speaker 1: five dollars. It was a five dollar bet and you
Speaker 1: had to pick the first person in each of those,
Speaker 1: each of the playoff games to score a touchdown. And
Speaker 1: when Schultz scored, yeah, guy collected seventy two thousand in
Speaker 1: seven huns. He got it right. Game. Oh you're not
Speaker 1: a better but it's called a parlay. Yeah, well, well
Speaker 1: what's the difference. It's a bet. I don't even care
Speaker 1: what the name is. Yeah, but I mean that that
Speaker 1: that that you know speaks to the payout. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you have to well, if you get one right, you
Speaker 1: don't get anything. Yeah, okay, yeah, I said they had
Speaker 1: to get all four right. Yeah, it's like picking four
Speaker 1: horses in a race in a race, right, m hmm.
Speaker 1: A lot of times where they'll do with those. I
Speaker 1: saw it on Twitter, Mack that someone had the first
Speaker 1: touchdown on our game was the forty nine ers tight end. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Obviously he didn't hit that one, so but I had
Speaker 1: to wait till the fourth. So usually it's a two
Speaker 1: day It's been a two day bet. On those lot
Speaker 1: times you can if you're the first two hit, you
Speaker 1: can pay out like they'll offer you. They'll offer you, okay,
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars right now if you guys, if you
Speaker 1: gonna take the money, he or you or you ride.
Speaker 1: So this doesn't even know about parlay, But I know
Speaker 1: what a parlay is. No, you don't. Just like he
Speaker 1: just said, it had not been to the horse tracks before, okay,
Speaker 1: the horse track. Yeah, And I've seen parlays in college
Speaker 1: football that you had to pick like three because you
Speaker 1: act like you didn't know it first. No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just didn't use the word I got all right.
Speaker 1: So U So, what's the latest on whether who's going
Speaker 1: to be the head coach of this team that season?
Speaker 1: I think the cancer on Sunday was no, no, no, Well,
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator right, anybody out there looking for an offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator because they are really are, Like half the league
Speaker 1: is looking for an offensive coordinator. Right. There's a been
Speaker 1: about about fifteen teams that have either uh fire their
Speaker 1: head coach or fire their offensive coordinator. I think we
Speaker 1: would we would quick it. You would probably see Quinn
Speaker 1: leaving or getting courted more than you would in the
Speaker 1: second interview today with Arizona. Really and you know what
Speaker 1: if you think, by the way Kellen Moore with Carolina right, interesting,
Speaker 1: there's five teams needing head coaches. Four of them for
Speaker 1: sure need a quarterback. Well, three because they can't get
Speaker 1: out of it in Denver. Right, he's you're inherent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's Russell Wilson. Yeah, he's done, he's he's Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: might be the only incumbent that you're saying, I gotta
Speaker 1: figure out what to do with him. But the rest
Speaker 1: of them are all looking for quarterbacks. So what's the
Speaker 1: you know, common denominator there. So you don't have a
Speaker 1: good quarterback, you're getting fired. What if we lose our
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator? Who steps up? That's something that we have
Speaker 1: never talked about. Do we go out there looking for
Speaker 1: another offensive on NAT? Do we promote in house? Do
Speaker 1: you tell Mike McCarthy he's the offensive coordinator. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind it at all. You're saying, the offensive coordinator, the
Speaker 1: defensive quarter offensive offensive, Yeah, because you know how we
Speaker 1: could replaced Kelly Moore. You know, we always talk about
Speaker 1: losing him, We'll never talk about replacing him. Well, the
Speaker 1: greater chance is losing dan Quinn, wouldn't you agree, right? Okay?
Speaker 1: So then even though even though Kelly Moore is interviewing
Speaker 1: at Carolina right now or supposedly today, So then if
Speaker 1: they know dan Quinn is out there taking interviews, then
Speaker 1: who are we looking at to take over as a
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator? Well, I think the first question you got
Speaker 1: to ask is there's somebody out there that's better, right
Speaker 1: than what you have in house? Because as we saw
Speaker 1: in training camp that one year, Joe Witt junior, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would think a candidate. I would think George Edwards
Speaker 1: would be a candidate if you wanted to continue what
Speaker 1: you had going right, which was pretty darn good right
Speaker 1: wins to it two years and ago. Yeah, and the
Speaker 1: defense has gotten better improved. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: want somebody to come in and change the whole concept
Speaker 1: of what you got going defensively, maybe somebody else comes
Speaker 1: in and has a whole to different idea what they
Speaker 1: want to do. With Michael Parsons, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: But if you just said, okay, Joe Witt juniors are
Speaker 1: ready to go, and they've always said that, right, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. No, I did not yeah, okay, well
Speaker 1: they of course head coach of the defensive coordinator. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and George Edwards has been a long time defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: So now can you find somebody? And here so here's
Speaker 1: the key too. Somebody has to be available, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We might go, you don't get the just
Speaker 1: steal somebody, right, They got to be available, and why
Speaker 1: are they available? You know their head coach probably got
Speaker 1: fired staffs, so that that always factors into the equation.
Speaker 1: Would you rather be the defensive coordinator or the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys or the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals? Very
Speaker 1: good quest. That's a good question. You have an answer
Speaker 1: to your own question. I think myself I would I'd
Speaker 1: like being the defensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys, especially
Speaker 1: you're being compensated handsomely right right, And with the situation
Speaker 1: in Arizona right now, you got to look at it
Speaker 1: right now, the team and the defensive coordinator here doesn't
Speaker 1: have the headache that the head coach will in Arizona
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what do I do with Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray because they're sort of stuff, especially when you're a
Speaker 1: defensive coach. Yes, because you got a defensive head coach.
Speaker 1: You get how you got to hire someone because your
Speaker 1: quarterback is this long term contract and I would amain
Speaker 1: the skill set is not right, doesn't seem to be
Speaker 1: suitable for just every offensive coordinator. So if I'm interviewing
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, my first question is who's your offensive coordinator?
Speaker 1: And he's got to have an answer. Yeah, And he's
Speaker 1: got to have an answer that he knows he can
Speaker 1: get the person right. That's a tough one. So what's
Speaker 1: the temperature in the coaches not the locker room, but
Speaker 1: the coach's rooms. Does it feel like this is the
Speaker 1: time to bail? Does it seem like the marriage is over?
Speaker 1: The experiment, consider the failure, and let's move on. What's
Speaker 1: the temperature? Does it feel like Quinn wants to go?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have a feel for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking if I'm gonna get that job the
Speaker 1: second time, it's gonna have to be a perfect situation.
Speaker 1: I'm not like the first time head coach that I
Speaker 1: can't turn this down. There they want me to be
Speaker 1: the head coach. But if I got a job, I
Speaker 1: like I'm getting paid. Well, I got to be the
Speaker 1: right situation, and unfortunately, usually the reason they're looking for
Speaker 1: a new head coach is number one, they were pitiful,
Speaker 1: and number two they didn't have a quarterback. So Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore back on Quinn all right. The other thing with Quinn, right,
Speaker 1: he's fifty two years old right now. I mean, there
Speaker 1: there comes a point where age wise, where there's a
Speaker 1: threshold where now you're considered too old or whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: but he's fifty two, which is not of the young ideas, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look around the league and the guys
Speaker 1: that look at two's still alive in the playoffs right now.
Speaker 1: You've got Zach Taylor younger coach and Cincinnati. You've got
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan younger coach San Francisco, Nick Sirianni younger coach Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: and then you got Andy Reid McVeagh. He's still i mean,
Speaker 1: still alive in the playoffs. Right But but but to
Speaker 1: that point, mcvagh is another one. Let's keep coaching. Yeah,
Speaker 1: righty gonna take off a year, didn't he take off
Speaker 1: some time? So the forty year old range is kind
Speaker 1: of the sweet spot. You know that owners they love
Speaker 1: getting that guy that's you know, so Kellen Morris makes
Speaker 1: him look real smart when they hire someone who's Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore in the spot. Yeah yeah, So, And what's been
Speaker 1: the temperature with him? I mean, has he thought about it?
Speaker 1: Has he mentioned it? Have he interviewed him? Who has
Speaker 1: the media talk to him? Has been in Carolina? I
Speaker 1: think I haven't heard his name come up elsewhere. I
Speaker 1: haven't either, So it's been Carolina. I think his name
Speaker 1: came up more so about fourteen months ago when Tony
Speaker 1: Romo was saying, this guy's going to give me a
Speaker 1: head coach next year and didn't happen for twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: and now his name is not mentioned as much for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, trying to be which gets to the
Speaker 1: point of what, like Quinn, okay, is this the sweet
Speaker 1: spot for him finding a head coaching job too? I'm
Speaker 1: where Okay, he's got two straight seasons where he's led
Speaker 1: the league in takeaways, and so what are the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have coming back on defense to make him have a
Speaker 1: third straight season where he's got this kind of top
Speaker 1: five type defense in the league. But you say, you
Speaker 1: gotta way, Okay, what what are the Cowboys losing in
Speaker 1: free agency? I mean think you think if you think
Speaker 1: if he gets a gets a job, that he would
Speaker 1: take Kellen Moore with him. Was that possibility because he's
Speaker 1: under contract? Okay, that would be a lateral move. Yes,
Speaker 1: so you would have to have the blessing of Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: which I don't think that's happening. No. So, and you
Speaker 1: do want to go and try to develop another quarterback
Speaker 1: that has somewhat failed coming off an injury that you
Speaker 1: don't know if he's ready. Yeah, even the next year, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's right. You got to consider those things. And it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, as long as Quinn continues to coach, well,
Speaker 1: his name will continue to come up. So you gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta wait it always. I always go back to
Speaker 1: Sean Payton when he got interviewed for the Raiders head
Speaker 1: coaching job and he turned it down. They were going
Speaker 1: to give it to him. They didn't say that after it,
Speaker 1: but they offered it to him. He turned it down
Speaker 1: and came back one more year as the Cowboys. Whatever
Speaker 1: Bill had him offensive coordinator pass game coordinator because he
Speaker 1: didn't feel right about the quarterback situation there. They were
Speaker 1: kind of in between, and he thought, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And I remember someone wrote that he just committed professional
Speaker 1: suicide by not by turning down, of all people, Al Davis, right,
Speaker 1: turned it down, came back here one more year and
Speaker 1: then got the Saints job and how's going well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he ended up being very successful taking that job,
Speaker 1: where I think he was looking at what was going
Speaker 1: on with the Raiders at that time. All right, here's
Speaker 1: a great trivia question. So that was two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: It would have been two thousand and six season five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was here's your trivia question. Who who was the
Speaker 1: quarterback of the Oakland Raiders in two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: So that's what you're talking about. Sean Payton didn't like
Speaker 1: what the what they had at quarterback, the quarterback situation,
Speaker 1: all right. Andrew Walter started eight games, went two and six.
Speaker 1: And Aaron Brooks, who was probably the starter to start
Speaker 1: the year. He came over from New Orleans. Aaron Brooks,
Speaker 1: remember he was at the Saints. He had eight starts.
Speaker 1: He was thirty years old at the time. He had
Speaker 1: eight starts and went oh and eight. Who was a
Speaker 1: quarterback in two thousand and five? Five? It was coming
Speaker 1: off the old five season. Maybe when he well Art
Speaker 1: Shall oh yeah, because north Turner was the head coach
Speaker 1: of the Raiders in Old five. He was let go
Speaker 1: after a four and two well seasons, so that's when
Speaker 1: they would have been looking. They hired Art Shell uh
Speaker 1: and their quarterback in OH five was Carry Collins. They
Speaker 1: went and he went four and eleven as a starter.
Speaker 1: When when he was thirty three years old, when it
Speaker 1: was Shawn's first year with the with the Saints seven,
Speaker 1: because I was thinking was oh six and maybe it was.
Speaker 1: It was all right, let me check that out. Whoops.
Speaker 1: I think he came back here in OH five and
Speaker 1: then became the Saints quarterback. Okay, so then it was
Speaker 1: Kerry Collins. Let's see signed Drew Brees from San Diego, right,
Speaker 1: he was a free agent. Miami turned him down because
Speaker 1: they didn't like the looks of his his show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Peyton was first year with the Saints was OH six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was the O five season when they offered
Speaker 1: him the head coach. So Carry Collins was the quarterback
Speaker 1: of the Raiders and yeah, and so he made a
Speaker 1: pretty wise decision. But north Turner was the head coach
Speaker 1: there with the Raiders in OH five, Well, maybe they
Speaker 1: promoted him or steal the head coach. I think it
Speaker 1: was a one year deal. I thought one more move
Speaker 1: here testing my old memory, and turner was in oh
Speaker 1: four and oh five. They went five and eleven and
Speaker 1: oh four, and in four and twelve and oh five.
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Speaker 1: have some impending free agents. We have quite a number
Speaker 1: of impending free agents, both unrestricted and restricted, that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys will be assessing over the next month. Well, the
Speaker 1: surest thing about all these is the restricted one. Tarence
Speaker 1: Steele will be back right then. They will pick his up,
Speaker 1: and it's probably they will get him if they don't
Speaker 1: get a long term deal one year and probably restricted
Speaker 1: at the first round pick probably around three or four
Speaker 1: million dollars, which will be more money than he's made
Speaker 1: in his first three years combined in the league. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting because sometimes when they get in
Speaker 1: that situation, they can sign a guide to a longer
Speaker 1: term deal with a signing bonus to lower the salary
Speaker 1: cap hit the first year. Explain again how that works.
Speaker 1: As far as the first round tender, yeah, he was
Speaker 1: an undraft did guy right and go ahead? So if
Speaker 1: you tendered him at his original round, there wasn't an
Speaker 1: original round walls round. Yeah, it's real low, and so somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody could sign him and the Cowboys would get if
Speaker 1: they didn't match it, they would get nothing. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you can you can restrict them as a first round,
Speaker 1: a second round or original round. I would imagine he
Speaker 1: would have to be a first yes, but if you
Speaker 1: didn't get a deal done long term with him. So
Speaker 1: the money on that is will be determined a month
Speaker 1: or so from now right on what the first round
Speaker 1: tender money is, and I'm guessing it's getting close to
Speaker 1: four or five million. And if another team made an
Speaker 1: offer and signed him, they would owe the Cowboys a
Speaker 1: first round draft pick, yes, absolutely, and then the other
Speaker 1: ones ric O'Donnell who ended up on injured reserve. You know,
Speaker 1: I was surprised that they didn't use Malik Davis a
Speaker 1: little bit more in this game after they lost Polo,
Speaker 1: because he's been pretty good when they've given him an opportunity,
Speaker 1: and he's got a little of that wiggle to him
Speaker 1: like Pollard and he's not as big, but he's pretty fast.
Speaker 1: He knows how to hit the whole. Yeah, he hits
Speaker 1: it hard, just like polar something for someone his size,
Speaker 1: he's able to split. And I have very surprised as well,
Speaker 1: simply because you know, Zeke wasn't ready fun entire game.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean, how many reps would
Speaker 1: he have had in practice leading up to that game?
Speaker 1: Probably not very many. That that probably was more had
Speaker 1: to do with it then. And if you know a
Speaker 1: week in advance that Tony Pollard's going to be out
Speaker 1: for this game, then Malik Davis is in that role
Speaker 1: in practice and he's getting reps in r And I
Speaker 1: had a feeling that was the case. But you know,
Speaker 1: everything that we were doing was being met with much resistance.
Speaker 1: So as far as I was concerned, if you're going
Speaker 1: to put him in there, that's got the be a
Speaker 1: simple game plan that can be right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So let's let's use that because nothing we
Speaker 1: were using was working. You know, the offensive line was struggling,
Speaker 1: right right, So I mean, I don't know, I know
Speaker 1: he knows basic offense he ended he could have been
Speaker 1: the least given Zeke. Well, he ended up with three
Speaker 1: offensive snaps, but he had sixteen special team snaps. And well,
Speaker 1: and think about it. Third quarter. Here's here's what happened
Speaker 1: in the third quarter of the game, and we'll get
Speaker 1: back to the free agency. All right, Cowboys had the ball,
Speaker 1: they got one first down, Zeke had a couple of carries,
Speaker 1: they punted, and then they had the fumble on the
Speaker 1: pump return. So Dallas has it at the twenty one
Speaker 1: yard line. It was a CD run. So there's your
Speaker 1: Pollard play, okay for two yards, A completion to CD,
Speaker 1: a completion to Schultz. Now you got second and goal
Speaker 1: at the six, Zeke minus one, third and goal at
Speaker 1: the seven income plate. You're kicking a field goal. Now
Speaker 1: you're it's a nine nine game. You get the ball
Speaker 1: back the next time you complete from the nine yard line,
Speaker 1: the forty six yard or to CD. Then you went
Speaker 1: incomplete Zeke plus five, incomplete punt, and now San Francisco
Speaker 1: goes on a six minute drive. It's now fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: You're down sixteen to nine, and Zeke had two carries
Speaker 1: on the next position that ended in a field goal.
Speaker 1: So those are the possessions that Cowboys had throughout the third,
Speaker 1: throughout a quarter and a half, and then Oakland, I
Speaker 1: mean Oakland San Francisco gets the ball back and they
Speaker 1: go on eight minute drive from eleven oh three to
Speaker 1: three h four left in the game. You're just throwing
Speaker 1: throwing right, right, So Pollard would have been used obviously
Speaker 1: in that. But at that point, there weren't that many opportunities,
Speaker 1: really that many possessions other than you could have thrown
Speaker 1: them the ball, and they did a lot of that
Speaker 1: because they were trying. We're having trouble with the pass rush, right,
Speaker 1: that's while you saw those smoke screens. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I bet half of CDs catches were smoke screens. They
Speaker 1: probably will because they were trying to run the ball
Speaker 1: from that position. It was and it was it was.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's pretty good about slithering his way through, right,
Speaker 1: He's a he's a dog man. I love him. Which
Speaker 1: one thing about that game, there weren't very many possessions
Speaker 1: for either team, and there were Cowboys had four possessions
Speaker 1: in the first half, and then basically they were gifted
Speaker 1: an extra possession with a fumbled punt return to start
Speaker 1: the half. But otherwise, when when San Francisco goes as
Speaker 1: well as the defense played in the second half. San
Speaker 1: Francisco was able to mount in two drives fourteen minutes
Speaker 1: worth a time of possession, so they ate up a
Speaker 1: whole quarter there on two possessions a six minute drive
Speaker 1: in an eight minute drive. Actually it was thirteen fifty
Speaker 1: dis Yeah, right, the Cowboys, if you'd don't count the
Speaker 1: last possession, that was what forty five seconds? They had
Speaker 1: nine possessions. Normally I think average is around twelve, and
Speaker 1: San Francisco only had nine, So yeah, there wasn't a
Speaker 1: lot of possessions. You're right, all right. As the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have twenty unrestricted free agents. I think The Morning News
Speaker 1: had twenty one, but they released trayvon Mullen and he
Speaker 1: would have been one, so they've got twenty of note
Speaker 1: guys that played a lot. Anthony Barr this is alphabetical
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, who's injured but was a starter, Noah Brown,
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler, Luke Gifford, C. CJ. Goodwin. So your two
Speaker 1: special teams aces Jonathan Hankins, t Y Hilton A right,
Speaker 1: that was kind of an addition. Connor McGovern's a starter,
Speaker 1: Brett Mayers a starter, Jake McQuaid was a starter, so
Speaker 1: you can make a half there because McQuaid and Overton
Speaker 1: shared the job. Jason Peters was a backup, Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: starter starter, Cooper Rush Dalton shower for five games, Vanders
Speaker 1: the starter, Carlos Watkins, he's a starter, Donovan Wilson. That's
Speaker 1: ten starters if you count the two special teamers as
Speaker 1: one kicker in the long stamp. Yeah, sixteen players, ten
Speaker 1: starters something like that, twenty twenty, so half of them
Speaker 1: are starters basically. And you know you're and you already
Speaker 1: which by the way I looked it up, at this point,
Speaker 1: you already have nine million dollars in dead money, and
Speaker 1: trey Von is going into his contract year yes, which
Speaker 1: you probably won't be happy about, and I mean, welcome
Speaker 1: to the cow much time and other big contracts. So CD, yep,
Speaker 1: you have to make the fifty fifth year. If they will,
Speaker 1: they will, they will. So he's got two years under control, right,
Speaker 1: and Parsons is three years under control. But you're getting
Speaker 1: to the point in Parsons contract where you got to
Speaker 1: start looking at extending him. Dak has two years left
Speaker 1: on his deal. How does that work? On the extra years,
Speaker 1: avoidable years, whatever. Yeah, I'd have to look. But to
Speaker 1: the point is those huge contracts that you're looking at
Speaker 1: when you make decisions on these guys, and seeing everybody
Speaker 1: wants to bring up Zeke Um because of his contract.
Speaker 1: His base salary for this year for this coming year
Speaker 1: is ten point nine million, so it's eleven million, but
Speaker 1: but they have to account for eleven point eight six
Speaker 1: million yet on his dead money in his contract. So
Speaker 1: if you said no, Zeke were done, you can save
Speaker 1: ten point nine but it's going to cost you eleven
Speaker 1: point eight six regardless if you do it all now
Speaker 1: or half now, half next year. So you know, there's
Speaker 1: all this talk about him restructuring his deal. Okay, well
Speaker 1: what are you going to You don't want to restructure it.
Speaker 1: You got to start from scratch like they did with
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, right, because if you restructure it, then there's
Speaker 1: usually a restructured bonus to get him his money, but
Speaker 1: at not all costs at once ten point nine million.
Speaker 1: So what they did with Lawrence is they reduced, they
Speaker 1: got rid of basically his contract and signed him to
Speaker 1: a three year deal that would add up to what
Speaker 1: he was supposed to make this year, but they spread
Speaker 1: it out over three years and guaranteed it. So he
Speaker 1: decided he would take the guaranteed money instead of just
Speaker 1: playing on a one year deal. Basically, So it comes
Speaker 1: down to economics and what a guy wants to do
Speaker 1: at this point. You know, Zeke can say, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to be here, Okay, well let's see how badly
Speaker 1: you want to be here. And so that's going to
Speaker 1: be in I mean, it already was a headline story
Speaker 1: in the morning news today, so we'll see where that
Speaker 1: one goes. But like I said, when you start putting
Speaker 1: money into you know, dead money and it carries over,
Speaker 1: it's like, like, you know, the biggest amount of dead
Speaker 1: money this coming twenty twenty three season will be Layold Collins.
Speaker 1: You don't just wash your hands of people when you
Speaker 1: owe You've got to It's not like you owe them money,
Speaker 1: but you got to account for the money you're already
Speaker 1: paid them in bonus and restruct your bonus. So and
Speaker 1: you know, with Polo being hurt, that really kind of
Speaker 1: complicates the right a little bit, not just for Polot individually, right,
Speaker 1: but for how do we approach the offseason when it
Speaker 1: comes to the running back position, yeah, or how do
Speaker 1: you approach Pollard to try to keep him? Do you
Speaker 1: want to keep him? And then how much? You know,
Speaker 1: because you got to see something and I don't know
Speaker 1: what other A lot of it has to do what
Speaker 1: other teams do, Right, what do they think of Pollard? Right?
Speaker 1: You know, and knowing that he I think today he
Speaker 1: was supposed to have the surgery and it's a fractured fibula,
Speaker 1: and we still hadn't talked about the ankle, and the
Speaker 1: ankle they had to. I haven't heard what the MRI
Speaker 1: said on his ankle, okay, so there could be something there.
Speaker 1: So he's probably looking at three or four months of rehab. Right.
Speaker 1: Here's another thing that I mean, you think of a
Speaker 1: guy like Tyrn Smith who has decision to make himself
Speaker 1: on right. You know, he's approaching retirement age and I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's got money that needs to still be accounted
Speaker 1: for in you know, I mean you talk about those
Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents. Other guys will make decisions on their
Speaker 1: their own decisions on their future. That's true too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: same thing with like you know Peters as he want
Speaker 1: to play at forty one with a bad hip. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And bad hip for forty year olds and not a
Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah, that's t y Hill. Does Hilton want
Speaker 1: to play? Did he show enough? Did somebody else see you? Oh?
Speaker 1: We could use him and we're gonna pay him more.
Speaker 1: Um So there's always those decisions. I think Tyrn's going
Speaker 1: into his contract here, I think twenty three. I'm looking
Speaker 1: this is correct on hire. He's got avoidable year in
Speaker 1: twenty four. But so Tyrn Smith, Yeah, Tyrn that this
Speaker 1: could be his last. Yeah, so that they got to
Speaker 1: account for him. Yeah. Right, So so at this point,
Speaker 1: probably most of his restructure money is all well, they
Speaker 1: restructured him, I thought. So, I don't know if all
Speaker 1: his money is still accounted for or not. That'll be
Speaker 1: one way we have to look into. You can see
Speaker 1: how important it was to to win this year. Well,
Speaker 1: to draft Tyler Smith. Oh okay, yes, to draft Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith last day. It's always important, always, But but what
Speaker 1: when when you got this many free agents? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know that plays into a dan Quinn decision. If
Speaker 1: he gets offered the Arizona job or whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: if you doll plays into it. Okay, what are the
Speaker 1: chances that Cowboys can get back to so how many
Speaker 1: how many defensive starters did I mention one? Two, three?
Speaker 1: Well you had Hankins, vander Esh, Donovan Wilson, Carlos Watkins, bar,
Speaker 1: there's five right there and then and you've mentioned Vanderesh right, yea,
Speaker 1: so yeah, five out of eleven that's pretty significant. Ye
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Speaker 1: driving that thing. I mastered the gas pedal and the
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Speaker 1: heel both days are long, platform Bell Bottoms go. So
Speaker 1: who are your priorities on that free agent list? Well,
Speaker 1: vander esh would be one of them, and I think, um, well,
Speaker 1: it comes down to money. But Donovan Wilson's been pretty
Speaker 1: darn good this year. And it was Lansing Wood in
Speaker 1: the game. Yes, wow, I was playing, so for sure. Um,
Speaker 1: those two guys. Um, you know, poor Anthony Brown, he's
Speaker 1: in a difficult situation and having to come back from
Speaker 1: them and at his age now too right and his
Speaker 1: position by the way, because you got a back pedal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh so I'm not sure what will happen there. You know,
Speaker 1: it could be uh and this is not to diminish
Speaker 1: his value, but you know, not knowing, Um, you might say, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give you a one year deal and you know,
Speaker 1: kind of a prove it deal because I don't know
Speaker 1: how everybody else in the league will value him. Also
Speaker 1: not a free agent. But what about Jordan Lewis, how's
Speaker 1: he doing? Uh, he's under contracts Okay, they're good now.
Speaker 1: It was Lis franc injury fractured Lis Frank. Um, he
Speaker 1: was moving along pretty good last time I saw him
Speaker 1: in the locker room. Uh, Anthony Brown actually went to
Speaker 1: these last two playoff games, but he was in a
Speaker 1: big old boot, uh, and he was in the process.
Speaker 1: And I know this very well, because they want to
Speaker 1: elevate your heel, right, So there's three levels of elevations,
Speaker 1: and every week after a certain time, you take one
Speaker 1: out and then you take the next one out. Then
Speaker 1: you take the next one out, and you're flat. Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown just turned twenty nine in December. Jordan Lewis is
Speaker 1: twenty seven. He'll be twenty eight end of August. So
Speaker 1: from an age standpoint, for instance, Xavier Rhodes early thirties, guy,
Speaker 1: do you see how men snaps he got in the
Speaker 1: game zero? Well the day, Yeah, they elevate him off
Speaker 1: the practice squad and that didn't use him. So and
Speaker 1: I know we're getting way ahead of ourselves. But if
Speaker 1: you're looking at needs, which I assume going back on roads,
Speaker 1: one of the reasons then that he got in the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay game, which likely because of curses injury, even
Speaker 1: though curse is a safety what you know kind of
Speaker 1: right not? And what they were going to do at
Speaker 1: the different quarterback inety positions. Yeah, No, I was saying,
Speaker 1: this is getting way ahead of yourself. But if you're
Speaker 1: looking at definite needs, you know, not knowing at this
Speaker 1: point you managed Lewis and where Brown is probably need
Speaker 1: a cornerback. I mean, yeah, think about the San Francisco game.
Speaker 1: How many true cornerbacks did they use in that game? Yeah? Two?
Speaker 1: And they digs and Bland and they were right. They
Speaker 1: were playing a lot of safeties at corner right, or
Speaker 1: they were playing zone like the one zone that they
Speaker 1: went San Francisco went empty. And then in the slot
Speaker 1: you see Anthony Barr against one I think it was
Speaker 1: Ayouk and it's like, well, that's not fair. And then
Speaker 1: it was worse because if you watch and we talked
Speaker 1: about it yesterday, where they had Purty throwing the football,
Speaker 1: it was almost between the hash mark the whole time.
Speaker 1: And when Barr lined up, he lined up outside. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna throw it outside, He's gonna throw it inside. Right.
Speaker 1: But think about the person and l that Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: and Joe Witt Junior had to work with at the
Speaker 1: cornerback yes position in that game and against Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: and the scheme that they were able to come up
Speaker 1: with and using their safeties in the versatility of those
Speaker 1: safeties I think that was for that because they felt
Speaker 1: that San Francisco was probably going to use the running
Speaker 1: back a little bit more, right, and then you know,
Speaker 1: passing the ball. Yeah. Well, and and they don't aren't
Speaker 1: dictating what they're going to do with their They with
Speaker 1: deebo and McCaffrey, who can both play running back or receiver. Uh,
Speaker 1: you don't know what the snap whether, and they might
Speaker 1: they might have found something with mcquomo too, because he
Speaker 1: was a corner. They moved him to safety, but they
Speaker 1: could play slot and he as big as he was, right,
Speaker 1: he was able to play the slot receiver very well. Right, Yes,
Speaker 1: so yeah, uh, cornerback right, Um, that could be that
Speaker 1: could be a safe you're right there, mkombo. And well
Speaker 1: and but it's not like they haven't drafted cornerbacks. Oh well,
Speaker 1: but you got a second you got a second rounder
Speaker 1: from you gotta hope that and then a third rounder
Speaker 1: from that same draft. He figures it out. I mean,
Speaker 1: godsend was bland, right, because you don't rush on your
Speaker 1: fifth round pick being a starter. So to me, yeah,
Speaker 1: well yeah, I wouldn't even say his name. You need
Speaker 1: you need to go, guy, guy, guy, dude, you need
Speaker 1: to go work. You need to go work. You know
Speaker 1: what the worst part about about his situation. He didn't
Speaker 1: play that much at LSU. Then he sits out ghost
Speaker 1: at Kentucky played nine games right comes here. Hardly played
Speaker 1: corner last year at all, and this year he got
Speaker 1: an opportunity and showed that his instincts weren't that great.
Speaker 1: But he hasn't played that much football. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: do you just like, okay, force feeded or what we
Speaker 1: got somebody lurking on? We can we can save this
Speaker 1: to when we return next Monday. But wide receiver, I
Speaker 1: think is a big need. Yes, because if you look
Speaker 1: at it, master of the obvious here, and my point is,
Speaker 1: if you look at how the wide receivers played this
Speaker 1: year history, Lamb could start for anybody who else. And
Speaker 1: in fact, if you just look at the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: the Niners roster, it's Debo and Lamb they're they're your
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Top two wide receivers right in that game. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then the tight end m hm, who by the way,
Speaker 1: is not on Oh yes, he was, okay, and he's
Speaker 1: on this list twenty guys, And you got to figure
Speaker 1: out what you do there because now the franchise tag.
Speaker 1: Although I did figure out though, if you franchised him,
Speaker 1: franchised him two years in a row, that two year
Speaker 1: total would match what those other tight ends that were
Speaker 1: franchise or signed to long term deals this year. You
Speaker 1: would have a very disgruntled tight end. Yes, that what happened. Well,
Speaker 1: he was disgruntled already, yeah, yeah, all right, so we
Speaker 1: got we got good stuff to talk about draft show, right,
Speaker 1: So you don't want to talk about Dalton at the
Speaker 1: end of the game the other day. The two plays
Speaker 1: on the side of what he did it off the
Speaker 1: air yesterday. He was whispering about it yesterday. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you why. To the security going out here on the show.
Speaker 1: I had to come in and bust in on the conversation.
Speaker 1: That saved this for the show. That was not a
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Speaker 1: up that guy too, but not a good look at all.
Speaker 1: You won that one guy seventy two thousand dollars, right,
Speaker 1: that's right, all right, And so going forward this offseason,
Speaker 1: we will convene for mixed shots on Mondays at eleven
Speaker 1: ams and if you need a long weekend and take
Speaker 1: Thursday Friday, not Monday. There you go for us, for us? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, so Mondays at eleven am. Starting
Speaker 1: next Monday, we'll be wrapping up. Oh, we'll have the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl mat who's gonna be playing in the Super Bowl? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who can? Come on? Come on, make your picks. This
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Speaker 1: who's winning the San Francisco Philly Game? Cincinnati film with
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