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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, the show that takes

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment,

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Speaker 1: and culture. The discussion starts with headline news and journeys

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Speaker 1: into deeper conversations, highlighting the life lessons that are presented

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Speaker 1: in every story. I'm Marcelo's Wally, that dude, and today

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Speaker 1: I want to chop up some wood in the NFL

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Speaker 1: with one of my favorite Wildly isms. This is one

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Speaker 1: of the best Wily isms for sports. It's not how

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Speaker 1: good you are, but how well you play. Let's say

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Speaker 1: it again. Sound like coach Bill Belichick over here is something.

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Speaker 1: It's not how good you are, but how well you play?

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Speaker 1: How good are the Cowboys? How good are the Vikings?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know how well the Cowboys played.

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Speaker 1: Spanked them Vikings. What y'all record look like? Take another ail?

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Speaker 1: That's what happened in that one, Lions beating the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Nobody expected that one except people in Detroit maybe. And

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Speaker 1: then you saw the Eagles get way too damn close

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Speaker 1: to losing to the coachs huh. Not bad for an

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Speaker 1: unqualified coach like Jeff Saturday Boy. Y'all need to stop

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Speaker 1: So when you come back to that Wiley is um

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Speaker 1: and look at it through that lens, it's not how

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Speaker 1: good you are, but how well you play, then everything

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Speaker 1: makes sense. Because I tell my son this all the time,

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Speaker 1: a little seven year old boy just getting introduced to sports,

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Speaker 1: competitive sports, football, etcetera. And he cannot believe when a

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Speaker 1: sorry team by record beats a good team like he

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Speaker 1: doesn't understand, can't fathom what an underdog is, like, Daddy,

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Speaker 1: how did they win? And he's still amazed that the

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Speaker 1: Rams keep losing games because he's like, yo, they're the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl champions. They shouldn't lose any games. And we

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Speaker 1: know better because we're smarter, we're older, we get it,

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Speaker 1: we have perspective. But sometimes even us at our age,

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Speaker 1: no matter who you are, you lose perspective of what

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Speaker 1: competitive sports is. You gotta earn everything out there. You

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Speaker 1: only eat what you kill. And the Cowboys went out

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Speaker 1: there and killed the Vikings banking. That was crazy to see,

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Speaker 1: but it happens all the time. So you gotta understand

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Speaker 1: that it's not just about your roster, your talent, what

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Speaker 1: you show up with, how big, how fast, how strong

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Speaker 1: you guys are. This is the way I break football

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Speaker 1: down and I saw it on display this weekend. It's

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Speaker 1: a great game of skill, but a greater game of will.

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Speaker 1: Cause that it's a great game of skill being fast, strong,

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Speaker 1: but it's a greater game of will. Will you do

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Speaker 1: the little things? Will you go the extra mouth? Will

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Speaker 1: you run through that next wall that is presented on

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Speaker 1: that next play. See, that's one thing about football. Every

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Speaker 1: single play is another opportunity presented with adversity because when

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Speaker 1: you're playing football, you're trying to move a grown ass

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Speaker 1: across this field against your will. So the only thing

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Speaker 1: that's gonna really make that happen is my will because

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Speaker 1: our skill level, it's probably going to be comparable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got some extremes, you've got some access on the margins,

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Speaker 1: but most guys are just black belts with different degrees.

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Speaker 1: Most guys in NFL is just a different degree of

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Speaker 1: black belt. So how am I gonna make you move

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Speaker 1: against your will? My will has to be stronger. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at all these teams out here right now as

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Speaker 1: we approach the end of the season, trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out their way, trying to see are we that good?

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Speaker 1: Are we are? Are we our record? Uh? Are we are? Expectations?

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Speaker 1: Are we super Bowl contenders? Man, comes down to those walls,

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Speaker 1: like and it's crazy because it's not a visible wall.

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Speaker 1: At times, it's a mental wall at time is just

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Speaker 1: an emotional wall. At times it's a physical wall, but

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Speaker 1: in human form. And you gotta go through all of

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Speaker 1: not the guarantee of the prize, not the guarantee of victory,

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Speaker 1: not the guarantee of outcome of winning performance. Like to

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Speaker 1: and everybody's circumstances, everybody's obstacles, they're different. Like Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Right now, that dude is off. Let me say what

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Speaker 1: it mental? Is it physical? Is it roster? Fool? Make

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Speaker 1: about it from that perspective. Aaron Rodgers. Is he is

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Speaker 1: invested in this team this year as he's been his

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Speaker 1: right You could actually think you're as invested in something

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Speaker 1: y'all catch that so you can show up to work. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I always come at six o'clock. Well this year, I'm

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Speaker 1: I always start off in the weight room, then I

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Speaker 1: You may be checking those same boxes, but where's your

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Speaker 1: those endeavors. Are you all in or are you just

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Speaker 1: they're hoping that all see you inside that building? And

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Speaker 1: that's what it is. Man Like Aaron Rodgers had to

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Speaker 1: He doesn't believe it will all pay off. If you

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Speaker 1: add all of that stuff up, I don't think you

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Speaker 1: Rodgers has fallen off, even though that was drastically exaggerated,

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Speaker 1: And that's what it looks like. It's like a balance

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Speaker 1: lying to yourself like yeah, I am fool, what do do

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Speaker 1: ain't right right. But you know what is right? What

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Speaker 1: I saw in Washington with the commanders and drinking on

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this rule because it wasn't always a

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Speaker 1: rule written or unwritten. It wasn't always a part of

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Speaker 1: where we lived in a completely different way, different direction.

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Speaker 1: So we're drinking. We're drinking, and I didn't even put

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Speaker 1: called doctors door roxolene. Remind you that they're hitting together,

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Speaker 1: Our biggest issue literally was stopped speeding on the way home,

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Speaker 1: grass and turf. Last time I checked, there's a hundred

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Speaker 1: You don't even have to overthink it. You're gonna get

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Speaker 1: had a good score. We didn't do shit. Our score

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Speaker 1: you know, same old locker room kind of stuff. Oh, man,

422
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: as long as my wife tell me all look good,

423
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: as long as my wife sends me the text I

424
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: look good, Oh I ain't tripping, And then co host

425
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: hit him, you know, with the oaky joked about, oh,

426
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: that ain't the text I got from her something like that. Now, remember, y'all,

427
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: we live in a post slapper world, right, this is

428
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: post Will Smith slapping. Cats act different nowadays. Cats be

429
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: acting like they and they feelings nowadays, like we'en surviving

430
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: that locker room and thrive in that locker room. Like

431
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: we don't know those sensibilities. We're in a different world.

432
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because when these jokes get taken seriously,

433
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: where are you because you don't know you. It's a joke, Like, literally,

434
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: I am throwing a joke, so I expect you to

435
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: catch a joke, right, Like if I saw a little

436
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: kid and I had a nerf ball, I'm throwing him

437
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: a soft nerf football. He should catch a soft nerve football.

438
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: I didn't throw him a soft nerve football, and then

439
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: it turns into a Wilson NFL hit him in the

440
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: mouth pickskin like you know what I mean? And I

441
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: think that's what's happening. Like these cats are throwing off

442
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: softballs and they are getting hit and landing like they're hardballs.

443
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: Like what true? How do you take that? I ain't

444
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: built like these cats? Like I love being watching what

445
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: he stands for. He is a man of character. I

446
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: say that, But damn dog, how does a joke gets

447
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: misinterpreted like that? And more so? One was by a

448
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: comedian Will Smith and one was by your co host,

449
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: who I hope you know his intentions. Now. I don't

450
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: know what happened, but they went to commercial Barker. They

451
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: came back from commercial break, and they lost half the

452
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: crew like being one there another dude one, Like what

453
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: is going on in this world? Upside down? Man? Let's

454
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: wich gears and talk NBA boy with some juice coming

455
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: out the NBA. Damn, I wish I could play basketball.

456
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: I tell you all the time that the pyramid of

457
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: athleticism starts at the top with basketball. That is where

458
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: the purest athletes are. The best athletes are there. I

459
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: know track and fields in the back my head, I'm like,

460
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: damn track dude, but I'm talking about agility, speed control,

461
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: body awareness, everything jump in the building, like, come on,

462
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: NBA basketball players, right, But I saw something come out

463
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: of there with mantres Hero and Jannice. What was that scenario?

464
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: What was that situation? Let me tell you what happened.

465
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: What happened wasn't just a beef over. Let me get

466
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: some mixed shot shot through the game because I can't

467
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: make no free throws. No, it wasn't that. This was

468
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: a couple of power plays at play. First one was

469
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: an m v P versus a backup at least and

470
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: Joannice's head like dude, come on, come on, man, And

471
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: that affects the written rules and the unwritten rules, especially

472
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: in sports. You see it all day, all the time.

473
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: Like I think Jannie knows that either he was on

474
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: the line or he crossed the line, he was wrong.

475
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't know when he found out. I don't know

476
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: when it really hit him. Maybe when he pushed the

477
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: ladder and it fell over. I don't know. But the

478
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: point is he knew he wasn't all the way in

479
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: the right. Maybe he wasn't convicted of being wrong, but

480
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: certainly was battling those thoughts. Maybe I ain't right, Maybe

481
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: I ain't wrong. I don't know somewhere in there right.

482
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: But what happened was I may be wrong if I'm honest.

483
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: But Montres harold, Oh, you ain't the one to enforce

484
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: it or tell me I'm wrong. Bam, that's where we are.

485
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: It was Montres, You're not the guy. Your game is

486
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: not good enough. I don't respect you enough for you

487
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: to tell me I'm wrong. Now, Ain't that crazy? Like

488
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: I was? I was raised. I grew up right as right.

489
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: Wrong is wrong? Remember that people used to say that,

490
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: you do people still say that or tweet that nobody no.

491
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: And Jannice is like caught up in more who's telling

492
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: him versus what they're telling him? And Traveler just basically like,

493
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: hey dog, they gotta go climb up to the scoreboard

494
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: and the shot clock and they gotta turn over the court,

495
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: and hey bro, what you're doing? Like move on, man?

496
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: Like you get some free throw practice. I know you

497
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 1: got a gym at the crib and then you got

498
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: a gym at the facilities, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. What you're doing?

499
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: But it's crazy. I wonder if and the All Star

500
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: comes out there, you know what I mean a baller

501
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: comes out there and just like y honestly, you know,

502
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: game recognized game. So I could tell you right now

503
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: is not the time or place. So that whole situation

504
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: really just boiled down to wrong enforcer of what may

505
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: have been. Right now, let's talk about the ultimate speaking

506
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: of enforcers. Now, he may not be the best player

507
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: in the game. I know, I get I'm off my

508
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: high horse talking about Kevin Durant is the best player

509
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: in the game, even though he's still my favorite player,

510
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: even though I still think chips on the line, all

511
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: things equal and considered, he's the best player. But you

512
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: gotta do it, Fatty too. I get it. You gotta

513
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: do it in the playoffs. I get it. You gotta

514
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: show some recent championship contention or success. I get it.

515
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: But k D to me still the best. I can't

516
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: even say you're the best basketball player in the game.

517
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: Damn it. Freud caught me slipping. But he has some

518
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: interesting quotes, y'all cast those quotes talking about, man, look

519
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: at my starting five. The hell y'all talking about we

520
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: got on this starting five? What Sumner O'Neill, Harris Claxton

521
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: to him, he like says, I'm out here, y'all think

522
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna win. We're about to win with these dudes,

523
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: and sports fans kind of lost it on that one.

524
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: That's horrible leadership? Um, well, is it horrible leadership? Living

525
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: in reality given realistic expectations and actually saying names and

526
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: numbers like he could leave me. I don't know if

527
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: he can lead, y'all. But uh no, lines detected as

528
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: I heard that sound bite and read those press clippings.

529
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: Why because Kevin Durant is trying to tell you I

530
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: don't believe in this team, and I'm with these dudes,

531
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: and I'm one of these dudes. Side to hell, y'all

532
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: on the outside gonna try and to put some absurd

533
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: expectations on us, on me and expect me to go

534
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: out there and cook up some magic. It doesn't work

535
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: that way. Coaches, notice, Like when you're a coach, you

536
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: realize how helpless you are. Like you got this talkboard

537
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: full of amazing plays, and you got a diagram sheet

538
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: and play call sheet that looks insane amazing. But if

539
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: you ain't got the dudes, you don't have the horses.

540
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh the jockey doesn't matter. K D. Like dog. We

541
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: don't have the horses we need, Kyrie, we need Ben Simmons.

542
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: I thought that was not the best version of leadership,

543
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: but based on their circumstances and where they are, kind

544
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: of the smartest way to play it. Like, look, y'all

545
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: need to relax out there and look at us for

546
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: who we really are. And y'all in here need to

547
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: feel challenged because I don't think you're all good like

548
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: for me, based on where they are. Nothing bad can

549
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: come from this because you can't lie to yourself. The

550
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: mirror already tells you who you are. Your record already

551
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: tells you who you are. Why can't k D echo

552
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: exactly what that is? So for me? All y'all out

553
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: there saying k D showed horrible leadership must never been

554
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: led out of a dire situation, and a dire situation

555
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: and speaking of leading yourself from it, Kyrie irving mhm,

556
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: speaking of leading yourself out of a dire situation. Kyrie

557
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: irving his back, y'all, he's back because he apologized and

558
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: he apologized, and he said he was sorry. Did he

559
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: apologized and he said he was sorry again? And I

560
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: know y'all, like, man, what do you have to apologize

561
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: for I'm with that camp, somewhat with that camp, but

562
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm with this camp even more. If you're a self

563
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: reflecting human being and you hurt someone or they said

564
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: that they were hurt by you, you need to apologize.

565
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why. And I know why, y'all like,

566
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: what the hell are you talking about food? Let me

567
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: tell you why, because there's two types of apologies. And

568
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm from the old school, and I'm from probably the

569
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: school of thought like you, that you only apologize when

570
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: you're wrong. And I grew up what maybe forty five

571
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: years of my life thinking that, and that only I'm

572
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: only apologizing if I did something wrong. If I ain't

573
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: do nothing wrong, you ain't hearing my lips puck her

574
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: up and say I am so. But then I guess

575
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: I evolved or got more mature. Basically, my wife she

576
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: schooled me on this one. My wife and my therapist

577
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: broke it down that there are two types of apologies.

578
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: The conventional one, the one that we probably all were

579
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: raised doing, which is apologize when you're wrong. But the

580
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: second one is apologize when someone says that they were

581
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: hurt by your actions or your words. Now, I can

582
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: see right now is starting to merge with the first one. Hey,

583
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: but what if my words weren't wrong? Look at us?

584
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: We all to say, Um, what if I said something

585
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: that you shouldn't even taken as wrong? I didn't say that.

586
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: Let's separate church and state. The first one is you

587
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: actually did something wrong, like you caught yourself like, damn,

588
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: I did I hurt that food? I heard him, I

589
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: don't mean to I adn't mean to do that. I'm sorry.

590
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: The other one, you're going to dig a little deeper, y'all,

591
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: because it's not from your intentions, it's not from your spirit,

592
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: it's not always even from your actions. It's their reception.

593
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 1: And if you care about them, if you care about them,

594
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: you allegedly supposedly hurt guess what you do no matter

595
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: who they are, you apologize who it's. It's even tough

596
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: for me to say this because it takes a full

597
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: maturation level to really accept that and to say it

598
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: early and say it often. And I think that's what

599
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: Kyrie got caught up in, not the traditional way, because

600
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: Kyrie was like, Yo, did I do something wrong? Really? Like?

601
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: How deeply was I wrong? In terms of what I did?

602
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: And he stayed there for a while, right, But then somehow,

603
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: some way, And I don't know if it was the

604
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: list of demands. I don't think it's that. I think

605
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: he's more authentic than that. I think he dug deeper

606
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: than that, because basically he could have said, forget your

607
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: list of demands, let's go thraw a line, and they're saying,

608
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: let's go to war. Now he already had lost a

609
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: lot and still could have lost even more. But he

610
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: didn't go to that place. He went to this place,

611
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: some self discovery, some realization, some wow. I'm Kyrie Irving,

612
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: who really cares about the human race, as he says,

613
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: as he professes, And I heard some people in the

614
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: human I heard Jewish people. Whether I think I was

615
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: wrong or not, whether I did it with a wrong

616
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: intention or not, whether I did it with the greatest

617
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:09,479
Speaker 1: of intention and spirit. They were hurt. And I know

618
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: how this sounds, and I know how this feels. But

619
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: if you do care, as he always says, he cares

620
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: about humanity, and then a part of humanity says that

621
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: they were hurt, a simple apology can do wonders for

622
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: those people. Now here's the rub, Why did it takes

623
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: so long, because evolving from Model one to Model two

624
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: took me forty five years. To Kyrie, what four or

625
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: five days? Like? Good for Kyrie? Applause? You know, I

626
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: applause that applause, man is hard. Y'all. We're all in

627
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: this together trying to figure this thing out, and imagine

628
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: having that level of platform. What all the noise is

629
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: coming in? You can't even separate the signal from the

630
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: noise in that situation. I know it was a tough dynamic,

631
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: but I know people are saying, you gotta be combative

632
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: in this moment, you know, stick to your guns. Kyrie.

633
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: I think he actually gave himself more ammunition, more firepower

634
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: by apologizing for hurting people that he cares about respect.

635
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: But talk about not being able to separate the signal

636
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: from the noise. Y'all catch this story about Charles Barkley

637
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: and quote unquote, I guess black people are the worst

638
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: when it comes to treating gay people. M hmm. Everybody

639
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: sees the first error of Charles's ways and this one.

640
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: Stop generalizing, Okay, party people, we gotta get out of

641
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: this generalization conversation that we love to have about every

642
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: single thing. One black people. You mean one, there are

643
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: black people that are gay. Um, that's we're talking self. Hey,

644
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: I think they treat gay people. Fine, one, two gay people. Um,

645
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: there are I guess a myriad infinite amount of personalities

646
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: and treatments towards any group, black or a game. So

647
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: where is Charles really trying to go with this? In general?

648
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: He's trying to say black people are more homophobic than

649
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: any other group race, ethnicity. Damn, how do you measure that?

650
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: What's the indicator of that? Is it because your proximity,

651
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: because you are black and you get to hear all

652
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: the intimate, dirty, nasty secrets and conversations and ill feelings

653
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: towards gay people because you are black? Or is it

654
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: you're looking at it from the outside perspective of just saying,

655
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: if I had to rank, black people are the worst

656
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: towards gay people, how do you say that? What's the scoreboard?

657
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: What do you use as a measurement? Man, I can't

658
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: stand it. Let me use one example forget measurement that

659
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: I went through to show you that black people are

660
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: not the worst. Um, I had a gay teammate. He

661
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: wasn't the first openly gay NFL player because he wasn't

662
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: open and being gay, but he was gay. He was

663
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: my teammate, Ezra to Walla. If you guys google them,

664
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: you look him up. Think you played for the Vikings

665
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: and he played with me when I was with the

666
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Okay, why didn't he come out the closet?

667
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: Why didn't he come out because of probably the same

668
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: generalization that Charles Barkley has subscribed to black people football

669
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: players like. It's so funny because I talked to Ezra

670
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: after that, I saw him on a special and then

671
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: ran across him. I was like, dog, like, you could

672
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: have came out to me been just like, I ain't

673
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: got a problem with it. Why don't I a problem

674
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: with it? Because dude, we play football together. There are

675
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: all types of people in that locker room, and all

676
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: kind of personalities in that locker room, all over the

677
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: place in that locker room, some saying some not dog.

678
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: I am here to ball and that's it. Everything else

679
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: is gonna come with it. And I wish that he

680
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: felt the freedom to do that. But I wish also

681
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: that we didn't have that stigma football players. I also

682
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: wish that Barkley didn't place that stigma on black people

683
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: because all this grouping is the issue that got Kanye

684
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: in trouble, Kyrie in trouble, Like everybody is like into

685
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: this whole. I know five, I know fifteen, I know fifties,

686
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: so therefore I know all. None of us can speak

687
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: for all of us. So if you're a black person,

688
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: you can't speak for all black people, so put the

689
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: mic down. If you're a gay person, you ain't speaking

690
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: for all gay people, So stop talking about all gay people.

691
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: Let's stop this all conversation because that's what's getting us

692
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: all in trumble. This what's gears. Let's get the culture. Oh,

693
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you all story um rest in peace,

694
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: take off and that story about the me goals and

695
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: what happened to takeoff getting killed in Houston reminded me

696
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: of an interview I did twenty years ago with Big You.

697
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: If you guys don't know, Big You is um gangster

698
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: former gangster. I don't know, I don't know what the

699
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: title is. But I grew up in his neighborhood. But

700
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: obviously he's older than me. But I grew up in

701
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: his neighborhood and his reputation proceeded him. Big Year went

702
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: to prison in etcetera. And he was O G triple

703
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: O G to me, Um, just the dude that I

704
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: had heard of, heard of, heard of, And finally I'm

705
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: starting off in the media. I think this is like

706
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: early two thousands, and I was doing some correspondent work

707
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: with the NFL network as it just opened, and I

708
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: was doing interviews and I interviewed Big You, Lord Lord one.

709
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: This interview never aired. The producer saw this interview and said, oh, hell,

710
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: now this is not coming out. Let me tell you

711
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: what the interview was about, the same conversation that we're

712
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 1: having twenty years later. Checking in. Big You was telling

713
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: me stories and I'm gonna try and keep these names

714
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: out of the conversation to protect the guilty. But Big

715
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: You and I were walking down Crenshaw cameras on talking

716
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: and we were talking about what happened. And like two

717
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: celebrities to athletes when they come to l A and

718
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: think they got free reign to just do whatever they

719
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: want to do. Now, I thought that they did, because

720
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: why everywhere I went I had free reign because I

721
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: didn't play that game. Even though I'm from gang neighborhoods

722
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: and grew up in Compton grew up off Slawston and

723
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: over Hills and grew up in sixties neighborhood and all that.

724
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: Palmer Block Comton Crip was the two neighborhoods that I

725
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: resided in. But I was never from those gangs. I

726
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: never was repping those games because I never wanted to

727
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: be a gangster, but obviously had friends, family people in

728
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: those gangs. I have free reign everywhere I went, just

729
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: because that's the type of dude I was. That was

730
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: my personality. But talking to Big You and talking to

731
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: them some of the cats that I talked to that

732
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: had issues in l A twenty years ago, y'all, Oh,

733
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: I learned something different and it's still happening. So what

734
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: Big You was telling me is like he would get

735
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: phone calls sometimes too green light or red light a

736
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: certain situation. You imagine that, You imagine that, like real

737
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: real story, real talk player X is at the club.

738
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: He high signed, he's shining, he popping bottles, he's doing

739
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: the most. He got all the jewels on, he got

740
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: everything he owns on his neck and wrists right, and

741
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 1: he chilling, and he in this city and he ain't

742
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: from this city, and he taking over the club and

743
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: he winning. This is before fireworks, but the lights are

744
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: on and they're on him. Right, how did your wife

745
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: hid your kids, hid your girl? Because she's she's side ironto,

746
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: but her side, I her side, eyes right, like one

747
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: of those I've seen it, I've been it. Here we

748
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: go and then the young homies are in there, the

749
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: dudes from the from the hood, from the set, you know,

750
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: the little robbers, the little ones who want to you know,

751
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: get they wrap up and they see some and so

752
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: they're probably a fan of you. However, when they feel

753
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: the lack of respect or disrespected, and I think we

754
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: only get caught up into disrespect. Disrespect is one thing

755
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: like you just bump into him, like move foo or

756
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: move dude, or man, what's up? Like all right, we're

757
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: about to have some disrespect, But what about lack of

758
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: respect like this quote unquote, Oh, I'm in your neighborhood

759
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: or I'm in your section, or I'm in your spot. Uh,

760
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say hi to you. I'm gonna give your

761
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: eye contact, or I'm gonna show respect, some kind of reverence, deference,

762
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: something to show you. Oh I know that I'm in

763
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: your spot too. And this is when he used to

764
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: get the calls. He used to get the calls, not

765
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: for the disrespect more, but it felt like the lack

766
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: of respect, which turned into checking in. So cats were

767
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: starting to realize, oh, to avoid that issue and having

768
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: somebody come at me and trying to check me, let

769
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: me check in. And I'm sitting there like, this is

770
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: just two damn MUDs. What happened is just pulling up valet,

771
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: spend your money, go home with her without her, and

772
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: do it again, rest and repeat next day. Right, what

773
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: happened to that club? What kind of club is this? Now?

774
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: You gotta check in? But I remember him telling me vividly.

775
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: He will be on the phone and be like, who

776
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: oh do they play for them? Oh? No, no, no, no,

777
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: he good, he good, Let him be, Let him be

778
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, whether the dude checked in or not,

779
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: whether he liked to do or not, whatever reason. Sometimes

780
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: he'd be like, yah nah, you can't mess with that dude.

781
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: And then sometimes I think it went the other way,

782
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: but I can't lie. I don't have the interview to

783
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: tell y'all. I have the receipts, but as memory serves me,

784
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: and I still talk to big you. So if you

785
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: catch this. When you catch this, let me know if

786
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: I'm misquoting you, are quoting you properly, because I don't

787
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: want to check in for real. Um, sometimes it was

788
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: the green light, sometimes it was the red light. Let's

789
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: talk about the red light. Let's talk about something that

790
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: needs to stop. One savage. You need to stop with

791
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: this whole Na Saint relevant stuff. I don't even know

792
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: how you're gonna define relevant. He tried to define relevant

793
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: by his terms, not websters, not even like what what

794
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: the consensus is or the streets thing. He was just like,

795
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: oh no, he just got a loyal fan base, but

796
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: he ain't relevant. Huh, that's kind of relevant to me.

797
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: I just saw NAS performed too at the Hollywood Bowl,

798
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: sold out. Wu Tang was there as well. Sol Ow

799
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: look relevant to me. But to me, this conversation is

800
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: not about arguing over the definition of relevance, and it's

801
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: not as relevant or not. We know that answer. He

802
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: probably just got caught off. The real conversation is how

803
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: today youngsters detached and disrespect their elders, where when I

804
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: grew up, we would just simply detach. We wanted to

805
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: go in disrespect, not in general. Stop generalizing mars DEMI,

806
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: didn't you just say something about generalizing? We me I

807
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 1: would detach from an elder, but I wouldn't disrespect an elder.

808
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: Why is that important? Beyond cliche? Don't disrespect your elders,

809
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 1: you know, respect your elders. Forget that you cut off

810
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: your valve to knowledge, experience, resources, human capital, like you

811
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: cut off your valve to be connected, to be in

812
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: flow with all of those attributes when you not only detached,

813
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: but more so disrespect your elders. What's coming in some

814
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: form or fashion, in different degrees, maybe different displays. That's

815
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: what happens when the young detached and disrespect their elders.

816
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: Because now you got this schism now, and you got

817
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: this divide, You got this this widening between what you're

818
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: going through and what he went through when he could

819
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: tell you, oh, what you about to see? It's something

820
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: I already saw. Yeah, imagine somebody giving the cheek cold

821
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: like that. But you're like na, na, I don't want

822
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: the open book tests, even though you're gonna have to

823
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: write every answer for yourself. No one's taking that away

824
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: from you. We're just saying, dog, now he's got a

825
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: cheat sheet and They may not answer every single question

826
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: on your test, but in your life of being thirty

827
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: years young and future in front of you, it wouldn't

828
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: hurt to take a peek at it, right, It wouldn't

829
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: hurt to say I wasn't number thirty eight. But these

830
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: dudes be getting so caught up and focused on I'm

831
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: gonna do me. Na's probably sitting there saying, hey, bro,

832
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna do we like. NAS just seemed like he's

833
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: trying to open up them arms wide twenty one like Nabby,

834
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: you must forgot I'm a savage. Whatever, let's talk to us,

835
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: talk about the beast. I got one too. I got

836
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: three Testla's not because I'm rich or bragging, just because

837
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: I think it's the best car, and I would literally

838
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 1: save every penny to get it to my daughter. Got

839
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: there a little I don't even know what it is,

840
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: the little itty bitty one model model s Maybe no,

841
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Speaker 1: I don't know, you're gonna correct me, but she got

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Speaker 1: the bone. When I get you know, batteries, it has

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Speaker 1: his battery from Tesla, but then also double A batteries

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Speaker 1: in it a little more. But me and my wife

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Speaker 1: have Tesla's as well. Love them love them. Oh best

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Speaker 1: car ever by far. It's like the Jetsons. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not talking about Elon Musk because of his

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Speaker 1: great invention, Tesla. I'm talking about Twitter. What's going on

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Speaker 1: with Twitter? Do y'all like Twitter? I think most of

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Speaker 1: us have that love hate relationship with it, right, that

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Speaker 1: necessary evil relationship with it. Here's my thing. I love

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Speaker 1: Twitter for the access. Yeah, take me around the globe

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Speaker 1: instantly and let me find out what they thinking in Japan.

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Speaker 1: What I hate about Twitter, and it's probably more than

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Speaker 1: what I love about Twitter, is that it made it

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Speaker 1: too damn easy to be opinionated, even for me. Like before,

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Speaker 1: when you're opinionated, you had to do some homework or

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Speaker 1: you actually had to do some footwork because you had

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Speaker 1: to be around people to tell them what you thought,

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Speaker 1: or you actually I had to do some work and

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Speaker 1: research to say it because we were around each other. Dude,

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Speaker 1: I know the real from the fake. I can check

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Speaker 1: you on what you just said, but on Twitter, you

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Speaker 1: can't check somebody for real. You can dispute what they're

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Speaker 1: saying by writing in response something nasty or negative or

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Speaker 1: something that just undermines what they said, or you can

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Speaker 1: refute what they said, but we're both doing that from

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Speaker 1: the comfort of our homes with a rob on. Ain't

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Speaker 1: lifted one foot in terms of effort and research. Don't

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Speaker 1: have to deal with anybody in our real social space

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Speaker 1: in your face to respond to to have true dialogue,

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Speaker 1: and more importantly, whatever they say, all I gotta do

873
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Speaker 1: is just lift the finger and try and blow up

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Speaker 1: their spot. It's crazy. I'm like, damn, but that really

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Speaker 1: lends itself to how our world is right now. It's

876
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Speaker 1: just too damn simple, to damn easy to blast off

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Speaker 1: an opinion, which leads to the other reason why I

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Speaker 1: could live without Twitter if y'all lived without Twitter. But

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Speaker 1: I get it, we gotta chop it up. Is that,

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Speaker 1: um like, people's actions become absent from whatever their activism is.

881
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: That's what I hate. And I'm not talking political activism.

882
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about whatever the hell you are active about,

883
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: you don't have to support it with actions. They could

884
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Speaker 1: be absent, like you can literally live what is it

885
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Speaker 1: now two forty character life that you ain't living. It's

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Speaker 1: what the hell are these dudes doing? And I saw

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Speaker 1: that pole they had up about Trump. Here's my thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Trump. First of all, he won the pole. I

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Speaker 1: wonder if he had lost the pole where they still

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Speaker 1: let him have an account like that almost felt like

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Speaker 1: a no lose pole, Like all right if he wins, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trump's back. If he loses, well, I can't let you

893
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Speaker 1: guys run my company for me. So Tran's back, like Eli,

894
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Speaker 1: you fool you, ain't you, ain't you ain't fooling us.

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Speaker 1: I saw HPCU volleyball team Talladega College that received racially

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Speaker 1: charged and motivated pictures or racially motivated picture. They say,

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Speaker 1: quit a tournament and leave a banquet. Ah. I didn't

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Speaker 1: see the picture, but I will say this that we

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Speaker 1: have to make sure in this moment if you're dealing

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Speaker 1: with those young adults, as the response was, I support

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Speaker 1: them in the PLoud their bravery. I just want to

902
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Speaker 1: make sure that people know that words have power, images

903
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: have power, but people shouldn't have that much power through

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00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: those words and images to stop you from expressing your

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00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: greatest powers, which are your abilities, your passions, your commitments,

906
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: your greatness. Just imagine if yesteryear forefathers and is there

907
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: such thing as four mothers? Oh that's coming? Um? What

908
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: if mm hmm they would have approached it the same way.

909
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: Not only would they leave any situation and circumstances where

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00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: they felt disrespected, but they wouldn't further participate in it.

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00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: Imagine Jackie Robinson it and I know that's an extreme,

912
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Speaker 1: but it just takes me there like wow. When confronted

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Speaker 1: with hate, disrespect, evil, you always have to weigh out

914
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Speaker 1: what do you really want? Are you so consumed in

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Speaker 1: this battle of the moment? Are you really engaging in

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00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: the greater battles of that war? And that war is

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Speaker 1: the forever war, love versus hate, good versus evil, and

918
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Speaker 1: as we're all in possession of both sides. Yeah, you too.

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Speaker 1: You've been hateful, you've been loving, you've been good, and

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Speaker 1: your ass has been evil. I want you to be

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Speaker 1: mindful of the fact that you can't let people take

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Speaker 1: you out of your greatness, and your greatness has to

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Speaker 1: be expressed. You know, you can't talk about it. You

924
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: gotta be about it. And it's gonna come with its

925
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Speaker 1: own adversity. It's gonna come with its own of the

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Speaker 1: circumstances that won't feel good. But if I were that

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Speaker 1: coach of that HBCU team or on that staff, oh

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Speaker 1: We're gonna show you a response to your hate, a

929
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: loving response to your hate. We about to spike this

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Speaker 1: ball on y'all head every single game, every single way,

931
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Speaker 1: every single play. I am not succumbing to your ignorance

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Speaker 1: in any form or fashion. Alright, it's time for our

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Speaker 1: weekly question for y'all avid listeners out there. Y'all know

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Speaker 1: it's ticky time. My sister O g Haneylow Tiggy. The

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Speaker 1: question this week is what are you not very good at? Now?

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Speaker 1: She may not be good at English, because I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's how you're supposed to ask that question.

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Speaker 1: What are you not very good at? The first thing

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Speaker 1: that comes to mind from me is handwriting? I suck

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Speaker 1: at hand Thank god. We text now and write everything

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Speaker 1: down on a computer. You know, some gadget. We don't

942
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: use pins and pencils anymore like do we. I had

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Speaker 1: one D, one D, not n F a D on

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Speaker 1: a report card my entire upbringing before college. I'm gonna

945
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Speaker 1: tell you my college grades. Good Lord, Colombia was hard, y'all.

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Speaker 1: But um I had a D one D, never another

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Speaker 1: D in any other course except handwriting. So that's one

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Speaker 1: but worse than my handwriting. Man, I'm an asshole when

949
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: it comes to this. I ain't gonna lie to y'all.

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Speaker 1: I don't suffer fools gladly. I'm really bad at that,

951
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Speaker 1: and I hate that it feels and sounds so judgmental,

952
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: Like who am I like? I'm the wisest one, I

953
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: am the art thou you know? But if you're a

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01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: fool dumb what where the hell are you gonna say?

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01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: Whatever way I can convey that, I can't stuffer you, bro,

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01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: let me tell you why. It's not because they may

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Speaker 1: be uninformed, ill informed, wrong, whatever that may be, or

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Speaker 1: even me at the time. You know I'm the one

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01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: that's wrong. It's not that. It's because they or me

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Speaker 1: more than likely didn't take the time, didn't care enough,

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Speaker 1: weren't concerned enough to be informed. Like that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Is not that you are wrong, it's the fact that

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Speaker 1: you're sitting here and you're wrong and you don't even

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01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: try to be right. I'm like dog, and then they

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Speaker 1: attack you, because that's what happens when you wounded, when

966
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: you know you're wrong and you didn't give effort. You

967
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: just passed. And now I'm just arguing over fish sticks

968
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: arguing over dumb stuff just because you didn't even take

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Speaker 1: the time or at times me to even get it right.

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Speaker 1: Let's end this show. What a wily ism. Y'all know

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Speaker 1: how we do always end this show. What a wily ism.

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Speaker 1: Today's wily ism is. Attention is invention. You know me,

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Speaker 1: I love me some literation. Attention is invention. Close your eyes, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you want to see when you open your eyes

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Speaker 1: while your eyes are closed, right now, give it attention.

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01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: Oh no, we're not going holistic up in here. Ope

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Speaker 1: your eyes now. I can't tell if y'all close them

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Speaker 1: in the first place. But in all seriousness, if you

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Speaker 1: want to see something in this outer world in full

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Speaker 1: display manifestation invention. You want to invent something in this world,

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Speaker 1: give it attention, eyes closed or eyes open. Attention is invention.

982
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Speaker 1: You wanna be, you wanna become. All you have to

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Speaker 1: do is give it your time, energy, commitment, attention. Basically,

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Speaker 1: it's a paraphrase of glad Well saying ten thousand hours,

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Speaker 1: which is one way to give it attention, just manually

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Speaker 1: give it time. But attention is more than just the time.

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Speaker 1: It's the investment in that same time that's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: For More to It, check the show notes for all

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Speaker 1: the information on our topics today. You want to keep

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Speaker 1: the conversation going, let's talk. Find me on all socials

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Speaker 1: that Marcellus Wiley at Marcellus Wiley. More to It is

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Speaker 1: a production of Dan Patrick Productions, That Dude Entertainment and

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Speaker 1: Workhouse Media. The show is executive produced by Dan Patrick,

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Speaker 1: Marcellis Wily, Paul Anderson, and Nick Patanella. Marcellus Wally, thank

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Speaker 1: you all for listening and thanks for those reviews. Please

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Speaker 1: please please keep them coming. There's more coming from More

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