1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: This is the Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: It is good. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: All right. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Here we go. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Throwing him job spectacular. I'm saying it to catch to star. 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 3: We see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 3: go to win. 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: God, that's incredible. Big bank, small bank. 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: I like to make money. 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: All right. This is the ultimate kabata. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: And we are underway. 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, and welcome to the Action Network Podcast. I'm 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: your host, Chris Raybond, and this is your NFL Week 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: twelve betting preview with odds courtesy of bet MGM, the 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: official odds provider of the Action Network Podcast. I am 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: joined as always by my Action Network colleague, the Prime 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: Minister of Degenerate Nation, Stucky, Happy holiday, Stut. What's going on? 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: Not much, just fresh off of an another sweep. 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: Born a row for the pods. I think two by 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: mere than two by you, So. 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to get that elusive the double. Yes two. 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: You know it's Thanksgiving that I want to say two 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: things that I'm thankful for. One, all of the listeners 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: out there. We do appreciate all of you and hope 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: you enjoy the holiday, and hopefully we can bring you 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: some winners here. 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving gamblers, We're thankful for you. 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: And then also I'm thankful for the fact that I 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: don't believe the Cardinals play this weekend, which means that 30 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: I won't beat the clothes by a touchdown and lose money. 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: My guy did last week. Essentially, Yeah, that was my 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: biggest bet. 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: My biggest bet too. I would have taken it. I 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: had a plus two money line. It's happened three times 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: last four weeks. I can't I mean, I don't think 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: it might not ever happen again. I'm looking at the board. Yeah, 37 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: there's no I don't think there's a quarterback crushed by 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: figures that I'll get word that's out and then beat 39 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: the close by seven. So that was frustrating. They didn't 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: even cover the tease. 41 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: Nope, nope, But. 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: You know, squeaked out a winning Sunday thanks to the 43 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: Steelers which got there for us. 44 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: And miracle that. 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we are on to week twelve. Let's get into it. 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: Let's do it, and we'll start by previewing the Thanksgiving slate, 47 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: so we'll do all three games. We'll talk about those. 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: I actually do have bets on all three, so we 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: can get into that, and then we'll go through our 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: normal Sunday six Pack presented by the Athletic Brewing Company, 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: and our totals, our teasers, all that good stuff. Before 52 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: we kick things off, a few quick reminders. First, if 53 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: you planned to bet on any sport ever and you 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: still haven't downloaded the free, award winning Action Network app, 55 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: what are you doing. 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So thank you for 65 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 1: making us a part of your Thanksgiving week. Let's give 66 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: this money, all right, stuck, Let's get into Thanksgiving Day football. 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: We're on the bus getting ready to broadcast the traditional 68 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Day game between the Lions and the Bears this year. 69 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: And John, as you think about all the people around 70 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: the country sitting down to enjoy Thanksgiving with their friends 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: and their families. 72 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: We indeed have a lot to be thankful for. 73 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: The first Thanksgiving Day game ever played was here in 74 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: Detroit to Chicago Bears at Detroit, And to me, there's 75 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: nothing better. There's just certain things that go together, you know, 76 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: the turkey, the family, the tradition, football, and we have 77 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: it all today. 78 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: So Thanksgiving starts bright and early with maybe the ugliest 79 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: game of the week, Chicago going to Detroit. The Bears 80 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: three and a half point favorites, a total down to 81 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: forty one and a half. What do you think about 82 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: this one? 83 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: I actually played the Lions plus three and a half. 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 4: Hello Detroit. 85 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: You know, and if you're looking to avoid family talk, 86 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: because this is a game where if you don't have 87 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: any money on it, you're like, oh, I got to 88 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: catch up with my hand here because there's no reason 89 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: to watch what might be Jared Goff, what might be 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: our boy Tim Boyle against what looks like will be 91 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: Andy Dalton. And by the way, the Bears currently have 92 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: the longest winless streak in the NFL right now, despite 93 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: the Lions not having a win, they have a tie 94 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: in there, and the Bears have lost five straight. And 95 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: if you go back to the first time at these 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: two teams played, the Lions were right in it, right 97 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: they were. I believe their first four drives went down 98 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: into the red zone and they only scored once. I 99 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: mean that you had like fluky snaps and golf fumbles 100 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: and they were able to actually move the ball in 101 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: that game in Chicago. The Bears were minus three with 102 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: justin fields at home against Jared Goff a few weeks ago, 103 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: and the Bears ended up winning that game. Well, what 104 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: has changed since? Now? The Bears are minus three and 105 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: a half on the road at Detroit, and what has 106 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: changed since? Okay, I mean they both have covered in 107 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: close games, right, So I've really downgraded both of them. 108 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: And most importantly, I don't see a big difference between 109 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: fields Dalton. Actually think it's a slight upgrade, but you 110 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: lose the leg component and Dalton's not going to crush 111 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: you downfield and take advantage of this line secondary, especially 112 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: with what looks like no Alan Robinson. I also don't 113 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: think there's a big drop off between whether it's Golfer 114 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: or Tim Boyle, and the have suffered a lot of injuries. 115 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: I mentioned Robinson Khalil Mack is out for the year. 116 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: You know they recovered three fumbles in that game. He 117 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: recovered one of them. It doesn't look like a Keem 118 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: Hicks will play. I mean, they just have injuries across 119 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: the board. This is most likely the last chance for 120 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 2: the lines to get a win this year. I expect 121 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: you get their best effort again, pulling out all the stops. 122 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: You've seen the lines do this to start games and 123 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: trick plays. And look, the Bears just lost to Tyler 124 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: Huntley in excruciating fashion. They're three and seven. They're going 125 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: to Detroit like a team they already beat a winless team. 126 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: I think this team is done. I think Naggie's done. 127 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: I think this is the final nail in Naggie's coffin. 128 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: I'm rolling with the lines plus three and a half. 129 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: I make this game. You know there's some injury uncertainty 130 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: with the quarterbacks, but it's not going to swing it 131 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: one way or the other even if you started on 132 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: one of the teams. I make this closer to to 133 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: one one and a half and I'm rolling with Detroit. 134 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: Ties will work here. 135 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: Al I hope not. Because I have the spoy word. 136 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: I have to the Bears and my survivor pick this 137 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: week because there's really there's nothing to take here. But yeah, 138 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: it's a really shaky spot for Chicago. I played the 139 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: under in this game. You're not gonna see many points. 140 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: Both of these teams are three and seven towards the 141 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: under this year, and there's a reason for that. You 142 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: know you said you downgraded them a lot. Well, I'm 143 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: sure a lot of that happened on offense. I know 144 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: the Bears have some injuries on defense, but you saw 145 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: what kind of games they both played last week sixteen 146 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: thirteen for the Bears with a backup quarterback the Lions 147 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: with you know, a backup quarterback themselves and then playing 148 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: a backup Cowiberg quarterback because Baker Mayfield ain't right, and 149 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: they played a thirteen to ten game. So I expect 150 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: more of the same. It's a divisional game, wait in 151 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: the year, second divisional game. I expect it to be tight. 152 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't expect I don't expect the offenses to be 153 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: able to put in too many wrinkles just because it 154 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: is a short week. So I think you're gonna get 155 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: just a straight up game played by both teams. It 156 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: probably will be close, but I don't see it high score, 157 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: and so like the under on this one even more 158 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: than I like even more than I like a side, 159 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: just because the Lions they just always find a way 160 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: to screw things up. But I can't disagree with that necessarily, 161 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: especially when you're getting the hook at three and a half. 162 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: But under is my favorite playing this one. 163 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: This should be the night game, the eight o'clock after 164 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: the family's all gone, you have all your food, and 165 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: you can nap in and out throughout the whole game. 166 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: It should just be the you know in Maddie, you 167 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: could just quick sim at Super sim just to the 168 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: end of the game, just like it shouldn't have to 169 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: play this one, just like, just like, play this on 170 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: Madden and tell us what happened again. 171 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: I have the Thanksgiving We got a tour ducking right, Yeah, this. 172 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 4: Thing here is a D bone duck stuffed in a 173 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 4: D bone chicken stuffed in a D bone turkey. We're 174 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: stuffing now, you're talking. 175 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Vegas at Dallas. So this 176 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: is actually the biggest spread of the week. Dallas is 177 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: favored by seven and a half. The totals fifty one 178 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: Dallas without Amari Cooper due to COVID, likely without cd waam. 179 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: I know there's some reports that he may play. I 180 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be able to clear the protocol 181 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: on a quick turnaround. But what do you think of 182 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: this game? 183 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: Really? What makes you say that? Because that's that's an 184 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: important aspect of this. 185 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: The initial reports were that he wasn't and then like 186 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: there was like team like people within the team were like, Oh, 187 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: he's doing well, he's in meetings, like but like, look 188 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: at team optimism is like a little different from the 189 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: initial reports or that he's gonna miss the game. So 190 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: I still think he might not be able to get cleared. 191 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: You hardly ever see a guy get cleared for a 192 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: Thursday from a Sunday game, So I mean, we'll see. 193 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it obviously is big, but I'm 194 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: not expecting him to be cleared. 195 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: I make this right around seven, assuming you know, with 196 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: some of the injury uncertainty, the Cowboys potentially could get 197 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: de Marcus Lawrence back. That's up in the air as well. 198 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: I think Tyron Smith is gonna come back. From what 199 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: I'm hearing, it looks like he's good to go. That's 200 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: big to get him back in the fold, especially in 201 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: this matchup. I mean, that's basically what the Raiders have 202 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: to rely on. Now. You know they have two corners 203 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: that are that are playing pretty well. Yeah, but everything 204 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: starts with the pressure that they're able to generate. Makes 205 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 2: job easier on the back end. You know, if Dak's 206 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: able to get time here, even without Lamb, he should 207 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: have success in the short to intermediary term. You know, 208 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: you have Gallop back in the mix, and the Cowboys 209 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: can go run heavy here and have success running against 210 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 2: the Raiders. And I was actually really impressed with the 211 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: Cowboys defense last week without Lawrence, without Gregory, they held 212 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: up pretty well. Their numbers continue to be up toward 213 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: the top of the league. And the longer you go, 214 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: the bigger sample size, that's it's more meaningful. Michael Parson 215 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: is just unbelievable. I mean, you just the Cowboys are 216 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: going to be really scary obviously once they get Cooper 217 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: and you know, lambback, and their offensive line is healthy, 218 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: and then this defense has all their pieces because you 219 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: can have Gregory, who's one of the top He's been 220 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: one of the best edg rushers in the NFL lawrence 221 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: and then like you can. I mean, Parsons is playing 222 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: it at like a top five level just as an 223 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: edge rusher. But you can use him as an edge rusher. 224 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: You can move him all around the field when you 225 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: have long and that's a step becomes really scary and 226 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: tough for teams to defend using him as a chess piece. 227 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: That just his speed is unbelievable to watch. But I 228 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: think Dallas should bounce back here at home. There's something 229 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: off with the Raiders. I generally like them as an 230 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: underdog and CAR they just seem like one of those 231 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: teams that plays up and down to teams. But I 232 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: just haven't liked the way that this team is trending. 233 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: Maybe all of the things that they've had to deal 234 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: with the coaching and drugs and it's just caught up 235 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: to them and they're tired. But there's probably the offensive 236 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: line as issues. I think Dallas has shown that they 237 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: can generate pressure without blitzing using Parsons. That's how you 238 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: get to CAR. I think Dallas wins this game. Decent 239 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: teaser piece, decent money online prolaite piece. I think the 240 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: line is about right with bumpet a little bit if 241 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: Lamp comes back at and Smith and Lawrence. But I 242 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: think regardless, it'll be right around. 243 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: Seven playing the under in this game. I think it's 244 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: a couple of points too high, kind of because of 245 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: what you mentioned. I think people look at these two 246 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: teams and a vision kind of a shootout. Bad defenses. 247 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: But Dallas is number four in defensive DVOA. And remember 248 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: that schedule adjustice they did hel with the Chiefs to 249 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: nineteen last week, you know, just when it looked like 250 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: the Chiefs were getting it back together, their ninth in 251 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: pressure rate even without you know a lot of their 252 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: top pressure guys that you would think would be their 253 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: top pressure guys on the d line for much of 254 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: the year. Vegas is also you know fifteenth. They have 255 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: in Gokway and Crosby. They're they're getting pressure. I think, 256 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think Dallas can control the game, but 257 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be one of those 258 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: games where you know, both teams getting the shootout. I 259 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: think they're at least one of these offenses, if not 260 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: both are liveble to be a little bit under expectation. Again, 261 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm not expecting Lamb to play, and that is big 262 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he's not going to practice probably 263 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: either way. He sat out of practice Tuesday as we 264 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: record this, so he's only got you know, estimated out Monday, 265 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, Tuesday no practice, so you know they're not 266 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: going to do anything crazy with him. I think it helps, 267 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, when when Dak doesn't have practice time lay 268 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: and he may not have you know, his full complement 269 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: of weapons, because what are the Raiders do. They play 270 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: a lot of single high so you know, missing you 271 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: know already Cooper, but then potentially another one year way weapons. 272 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: You know, that's not good for Dallas. So I think 273 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: I think this is the under game. I think the 274 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: public is probably going to come in on the over, 275 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: so you may, you know, if Lamb is ruled in 276 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: or whatever not, you may get to a fifty one 277 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: and a half, maybe a fifty two. I played it 278 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: at UH at fifty one because I you know, I'm 279 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: just going off the report that Lamb wasn't going to 280 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: play initially, But either way, you probably could wait and 281 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: get an even better number if he isn't de ruled in. 282 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: Me either way, I like the under in this game. 283 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: I'm assuming that with Smith back or even without Smith back, 284 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 2: you know, and say, if Lamb is not playing, Cooper 285 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 2: is out, the offensive line should have a major advantage 286 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: in run blocking up front. So I think Dallas will 287 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: go pretty run heavy here. They did this, They did 288 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: that against the Chargers and that game went way under 289 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: I think you could see a really run heavy game 290 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: script here if you look at some of the advanced metrics. 291 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: I think you could see Dallas controlling the clock with 292 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: a now fully healthy offensive line in those two backs 293 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: and then setting up the short passes so you could 294 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: have the clock bleeding throughout here. 295 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: And the reason we're getting such a high total, you 296 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: know it is it is indoors. You know, That's the 297 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: thing about all these games. So I think that's another 298 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: thing that you get a little bit of value here 299 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: on some of these totals because they're getting bumped up 300 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: a little bit because, as you know, they're playing them 301 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: indoors for so people can stay warm on Thanksgiving. 302 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: By the way, it's very interesting that all six teams 303 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: that are playing on Thanksgiving lost on Sunday. They're all 304 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: coming off of a loss. I don't know why this is, 305 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: Maybe you have an opinion on it, but Thanksgiving NFL 306 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: favorites are thirty two and fourteen against the spread since 307 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: two thousand and five, thirty two and fourteen. If you 308 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: look at favorites of seven or more, they've also crushed. 309 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily another reason other than we have seen 310 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: favorites on Thursdays, yep, dominate short weeks, So I think 311 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: that's more talented team generally has the events and the 312 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: teams that are usually heavier favorites most more times than not, 313 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: they have a better coaching staff. Something to keep in 314 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: my favorites have crushed on Thanksgiving historically over the past 315 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: fifteen years. 316 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: And also I think a big part of that the 317 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: Lions play on Thanksgiving every year, so you know that, 318 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure that plays into it. Try all right, let's 319 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: go to the final game. The primetime game here, Buffalo 320 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: at New Orleans. Game is a little more interesting, maybe 321 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: than we thought it was going to be, just because 322 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo is kind of nailing and clawing for playoff positioning. 323 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: Now they just dropped one to Indy New Orleans. You know, 324 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: they were in a good position after they beat the 325 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: Bucks a few weeks ago, and now they've lost what 326 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: three straight games, So yeah, it's been tough for both 327 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: of these teams, both of them are desperate for a win. 328 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: It's another one where I like the under. I mean, 329 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: you have two average offenses, Buffalo's fourteenth and in offensive DVOA. 330 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: New Orleans is fifteenth and not even as good as 331 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: that when you consider what's going on with Simeon and 332 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: maybe those tart tas them who they just paid. And 333 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: but you have two average offenses against two elite defenses. 334 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: Buffalo's first. New Orleans is sixth. The total has dropped, 335 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's been steamed by some sharps. Dropped one 336 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: in a half points, you know from open and when 337 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: a primetime total drops one and a half points, because 338 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: usually primetime games, you know you're gonna see the public 339 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: coming heavy on the over. But when primetime games have 340 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: dropped one and a half points, when there's been enough 341 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: money to move that down fifty six percent, you know 342 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: over you know a few hundred games sample size in 343 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: our bet Labs database going back to two thousand and three. 344 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: So there's another one where you know, I like the under. 345 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: I know New Arrens has been getting into some odd 346 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: shootouts because they've been getting down and then kind of 347 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: having to close their way out of it. But I 348 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: just think Buffalo. I just think you get a really 349 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: focused defensive effort from Buffalo. And you know, Sean Payton, 350 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: what is he really good at? You know, master schemer, 351 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: offensive schemer. Short week, I just don't know how much 352 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: he's going to be able to install here. So I mean, 353 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: the Saints got their hands tied. Ingram's out of practice, 354 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: Camara's out of practice. I mean, who's touching the ball 355 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: for the Saints this week? 356 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 2: Jones? These guys are Jones? 357 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: Is the Yeah, Tony Jones, Junior, Dwayne Washington, Time Montgomery. 358 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean like it could get ugly for the Saints. 359 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: You could just get an egg from the Saints offense 360 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: and just win this comfortably, you know, with the under, 361 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: if the Bills just show up at all. But I 362 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: also think you get a really focused defensive effort, and 363 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: both of these seems really good at stopping to run. 364 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: So it's like you're gonna see a lot of second 365 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: and long, third and long, perfect situation for an under. 366 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: So that's how I'm looking at it. What do you think? 367 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here to tell her whether the Bills are 368 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: going to be fine? Everyone, If you haven't didn't get 369 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl future. Ow In there, I got some 370 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: fourteen to one. You might be able to find a 371 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: good number. Now, everyone that's panicking about the Bills sounds 372 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: like the people that were panicking about the Bucks last year, 373 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: the Chiefs four weeks ago. This is the league. It 374 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 2: goes in cycles. And I'm here to tell you that 375 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: the Bills they have a couple issues right now, but 376 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: I'll talk through really quickly. But they've just been really unlucky. 377 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: A good article and I'm the athletic about this today. 378 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: But look, they're twenty seventh in penalties EPA. They're three 379 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: for ten on fourth down league average, about fifty percent. 380 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 2: Last year they were eighty. They're the second worst fourth 381 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: down team from an EPA perspective in the entire league. 382 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: Allen twenty ninth out of thirty seven quarterbacks and EPA 383 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: per interception. So that just means you know, interceptions are bad. 384 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: Is interception rate ticked up a little bit? Cover two. 385 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: A lot of teams are running this year, seeing them 386 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: do it against Mahomes, You're seeing them. It's giving them. 387 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: The Bills a little bit of trouble. But they've the 388 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: interceptions are coming just at a really poor time. So 389 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 2: do you know if you turn it over in someone 390 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: else's territory compared to if you've turned it over at midfield? 391 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. They're also on in three and one 392 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: possession games. Last year there were four and one in 393 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: one posession games. Allen slips at the five against the Titans. Right, 394 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: All all their losses before last week were won by 395 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: one possession. Easily could have won the games they're all 396 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: six of their wins were blowouts, and you could say, yeah, 397 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: the schedule has been easy, but it's not easy to 398 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: blow out teams by two. In the NFL, there's still 399 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: number one DBA defense. Their offense is ticked down. It's 400 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: about league average. Why offensive line injuries have been killer? 401 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: You have like Ford in there, Spencer Brown COVID list 402 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: he's out. You know, you have Feliciano's out. You move 403 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: Dawkins to tackle and it's just a disaster. He's so 404 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: much better at guard to the offensive line has been bad, 405 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: getting a lot of pressure, Cole Beasley dealing with a 406 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: rib injury. Emmanuel Sanders just doesn't look great, and then 407 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: Josh Allen isn't as accurate this year. That's up that 408 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: he has to fix in the intermediary routes because teams 409 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: are running a lot of two deep safety and saying 410 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: we're going to take away the deflay on top of that, 411 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: they're able to get a lot of pressure because the 412 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: offensive line is a mess. Look at the Jags game, 413 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: it's exactly what they did. Too deep safety, got a 414 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: lot of pressure. Colts that's their base defense, and they 415 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: both slowed down this build's offense. But Allen left from 416 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: second in completion percentage of expectation last year now sixteen, 417 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: and that's a major difference. There's also red zone struggles. 418 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: But there's a lot of things going on with the offense. 419 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: The defense is still a lead. Last week they didn't 420 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: have Star but too Lally and I, you know, before 421 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 2: the season, I said how key he is to their 422 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: run defense, to everything, to everyone kind of sliding into 423 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: place in the defensive line. Tremaine Edmonds didn't also play. 424 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: So their defense is gonna be fine. It's still a 425 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: little bit vulnerable to power run games. But the Saints 426 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: banged up offensive line, banged up running backs. I don't 427 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: know how they've really moved the ball here. And then 428 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: after what Peyton saw last week, He's yeah, all those 429 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: picks go. Look at that game. By the way, you 430 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: saw that score. It's like thirty yard drive, twenty yard drive, 431 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: ten yard drive. They just pick six. He doesn't want 432 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: Simeon to lose this game. I do have a bit 433 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: of concern about the Saints defense, Like I have a 434 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: great elite but Darnold has a career day against them, 435 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: Matt Ryan has a career day against them, and that 436 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 2: Falcons offense the Giants, So they have like these really 437 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: good performances then these really head scratching performances. So I'm 438 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: trying to dig in to find out what's going on. 439 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: But I expect to bounce back performance here. They have 440 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: bounced back pretty well this year. The Bills all offense 441 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: is just off right now. I mean, Spencer Brown is 442 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: probably going to be out again with Covid Luciano still out, 443 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: so you're going that offensive line probably going to get 444 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: dominated up front by the Saints. Saints still up good 445 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 2: good secondary here that can compete, and I don't think 446 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 2: the Bills are going to fix their offensive problems overnight. 447 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: I think this long extended break before the Patriots, I 448 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 2: think on a Monday night. Oh maybe, especially if they 449 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: lose this game in the Pats wind be a great spot. 450 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that the Saints. I don't see 451 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 2: the Saints doing much because they can't really take advantage 452 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: of this the weakness right now without Star up front 453 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: and Simeon's not going to move the ball. Bills defense 454 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: should I mean they were embarrassed. You listen to all 455 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: their oppressors. Saints defense should bounce back as well. Peyton, 456 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: by the way off and lost fifty twenty seven against 457 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: the spread, sixty five percent, covering by almost four points 458 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: per game, second behind only Belichick, and as an underdog 459 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: always said the underdog God forty five twenty six and 460 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: two sixty three point four percent, only behind tomlin. 461 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: Loo's the greatest of all time. Look at your work. 462 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: But I don't want to get involved in this game. 463 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: From a side perspective, I agree with you the under 464 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: I think both defenses. I know the Bills are really 465 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: pad We did ask more than any team in the league, 466 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: but I think this is a game where both defenses 467 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: show up. Both offenses still have major questions and injuries, 468 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: and this is a desperation game for both teams. Both 469 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: well coached. So the line is ticking up right now 470 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: because of the injuries to Kamara and mark Ingram. If 471 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 2: it got to seven, I would have to probably consider 472 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: the Saints. But for me it's I agree with you, 473 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: it's on the under and the Bills. Will we find 474 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 2: everyone and if they lose, they're still gonna make the playoffs. 475 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: That'll give us a great opportunity to back them against 476 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: New England next week. 477 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I thought about it too, like the 478 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: Peyton spot, Like this is just the Peyton spot off 479 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: a loss, if a multi game streak as a dog 480 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: home dog, no less, but yeah, Like it's what scares 481 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: me is the Bills are also off a loss. You're 482 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: gonna get their best effort, you know. I think another 483 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: thing that's been an issue for the Bills offense. Obviously 484 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: Josh Allen hasn't been as accurate, but Cole Beasley's been 485 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: a will more bang up than usual this year. It's yeah, 486 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: and if you look at his yeah, well yeah, but 487 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: like Beasley's yards per catch first two years in Buffalo 488 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: eleven point six, eleven point eight this year eight point 489 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: five average, you have to target his first year eight 490 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: his second year seven point eight this year, five point 491 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: five yard task to catch four point nine first year 492 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: four point three to second year three point eight this year. 493 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: So it's like Beasley's been relegated to like underneath, like 494 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: check down but like first down maker, to just a 495 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: guy who's catching like a two yard pass and not 496 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: really doing anything with it. So like Josh Allen doesn't 497 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: have that safety blanket, because that's when Josh Allen really 498 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: started improving as a passer when he got a guy 499 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: like Beasley instead of just having to chuck it deep 500 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: to like Jay Jones and Robert Foster and John Brown 501 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: all you know what I mean. Like he it's not 502 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: as productive this year. So yeah, we'll see what happens. 503 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: But I expect this to be just a close defensive game. 504 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: Saints crowd should be loud. Don't expect the Bills, like 505 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: you said, to correct everything in a week, but I 506 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: do expect both teams to show up. 507 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: The same thing. With Digs, sixty nine percent throws are 508 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: on target to Diggs this year. Last year it was 509 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: eighty three, and that's why he had a monster here 510 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: that sick down. An accuracy makes a huge difference. It's 511 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: one of the best staffs in all of NFL. They 512 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: will figure it out by the end of the year. 513 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: They have to make some adjustments, you see it so 514 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: week to week league in the NFL DC number I 515 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: make it around four. But it's the same if the 516 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 2: Bills get up right, like if they make a big play, 517 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: hit a big play, and they get up like seven, ten, fourteen, 518 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: it's over for the Saints. So they're just incapable of 519 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: coming back with With Trevor Simeon, I'll. 520 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: Tell you about this stuff. Was looking good and smelling 521 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: good and tasting good. We got to dig in and 522 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 4: start eating. 523 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 3: Now it is good, but you got a hurry because 524 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: it's hitting close to game time and we just like 525 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: to say Happy Thanksgiving to you guys back in the studio. 526 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's give the people what they want. Let's 527 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: open the week twelve Sunday six Pack presented by our 528 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: friends at Athletic Brewing Company. Thirsty for action, Let's crack 529 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: open the Sunday six pack. All right, stuck rough couple 530 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: of weeks for me, so we're back to tie up 531 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: at thirty six a piece. Somehow Pittsburgh got that miracle 532 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: cover didn't even expect them to do that. I almost 533 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: turned that game off in the fourth quarter. That's how 534 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: over I thought it was. 535 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 2: But Chargers game is never over. 536 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: Never, it's same thing. It's nuts how it's the same. 537 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: It's like, it's like it's kind of the same thing. 538 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: It's up. 539 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: They're winning some of them. They used to lose pretty 540 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: much all of those. But I am up first this week. 541 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: So for my first pick of the week twelve Sunday 542 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: six pack, the first overall pick of the week twelve 543 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: Sunday six pack, I am going with the Pittsburgh Steelers 544 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: plus four and a half at the Cincinnati Bengals at 545 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: bet MGM. I think this number is just too big. 546 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: I think it's closer to a field goal game. Pittsburgh 547 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: has been just ugly all year. But because they've been 548 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: just ugly enough to be underdogs, and you know in 549 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: a lot of these games, and you know, we're kind 550 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: of getting a lot of value on their lines. I 551 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: mean this is in DVA overall DVA, and remember the 552 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: schedule adjusted, we're ten weeks into the season, eleven weeks 553 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: into the season now, Pittsburgh twenty second, Cincinnati twenty first, 554 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: So these are pretty even. We match teams. This shouldn't 555 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: How does this get to four and a half? Like, 556 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: I know, Pittsburgh's been ugly, but Pittsburgh actually has the 557 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: better offense in terms of DVOA twenty first versus the 558 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: Bengals twenty third. For all the talent Cincinnati has on offense, 559 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: something's not quite right. I think it's the play calling, honestly. 560 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: I like, you know, Joe Burrow just tends to make 561 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: like one or two key mistakes under pressure every game. 562 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: The offensive line isn't great Pittsburgh, you know they're not 563 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: quite at full strength, but we still know they're going 564 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: to be able to cause some disruption up front. I mean, 565 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: I mean Cam Hayward was a man possessed in that 566 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: charging I pretty much could thank single handed. We thank 567 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: him for the cover. You know, Pittsburgh's even getting pressure 568 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: on punts. But Cincinnati, their offense, they've just been better 569 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: situationally than overall. And you just worry about that kind 570 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: of regressing a little bit because you know, the twenty 571 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: first in offense overall, but the fifteenth on third down, 572 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: the fourth in the red zone. Well, Pittsburgh seventh on 573 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: third down defense, fourth in red zone defense. So it's 574 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: not going to be easy here. Also, again with Pittsburgh, 575 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: a lot of these plays aren't based on just the matchup, 576 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: you know in the numbers. It's based on a motivation here, 577 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh is one of the best teams to play 578 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: based on motivation. This is a big revenge spot for Pittsburgh. 579 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: Cincinnati came into Pittsburgh early in the year when we 580 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: had really didn't have impressions of either team yet and 581 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: they spanked them. And not only that, but they I 582 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: think it was Tyler Boyd told the whole world that 583 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: they gave up. That Pittsburgh just gave up. Ben Roethlisberger 584 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: had that embarrassing like short of the sticks through to 585 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: Naji Harris on fourth down and then the Bengals is off. 586 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh gave up in their own building. It was sad 587 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: this that you think Mike Tomlin was not going to 588 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: have that clip on repeat over and over and over again. 589 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn, babe, Let's day. This in 590 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: addition to the fact that this is just yet another 591 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: Rara spot for Tomlin. What a raw ran Mike Tomlin spot. 592 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,239 Speaker 4: We win the game with this prove of bodies right 593 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: here today, bring y'all game today. 594 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: Divisional opponent on the road, underdog as a dog from 595 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: week three on thirty six, fifteen to two against the 596 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: spread seventy two as a dog versus an opponent with 597 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: an equal or better winning percentage twenty nine seven and 598 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: one eighty two percent against the spread on a sample 599 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: of thirty seven games. Mike Tomlin as an underdog coming 600 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: off a loss fourteen and six against the spread seventy percent. 601 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: And Tomlin has always owned Cincinnati until you know, this year. 602 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: He's twenty and eight coming into this year, now twenty 603 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: nine with the law against the spread sixty nine percent. 604 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: Still Mike tom went against Cincinnati. So I mean, this 605 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: is just the perfect spot. Beyond the fact that the 606 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: number is just too big, you know, in this game, 607 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: this is just the perfect motivational spot for Pittsburgh. So 608 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: gone with Pittsburgh plus four and a half at Cincy. 609 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: You're also back with Ben Roethlisberger, the King of Ohio. 610 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: All he does is win at Cleveland and Cincinnati. We're 611 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: recording this on Tuesday night, so you guys can have 612 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: it out Wednesday. We have Thursday games and Thanksgiving, so 613 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: there's a couple of games out there where, there's a 614 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: lot of injury uncertainty. The Steelers defense last week was 615 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: obviously really shorthanded. Now they're traveling. It was an exhaustive effort. 616 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: Is Hayden Fitzpatrick Lott. We don't know that as of 617 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: right now. 618 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm hoping we get at least one or 619 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: two of those guys back, you know, I think the 620 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: most likely. But you know, if we just get one 621 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: or two of those guys back in this spot, I 622 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: think it'd be a good look. 623 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't can't fall to the spot. And yeah, 624 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: it is the play calls that's holding back this Bengals offense. 625 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: And I mean they're either on first down just running 626 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: it like basic runs, inefficient basic runs, or they're just 627 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: going spread five wide and it's like all right now, 628 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: I know you're gonna throw. Like there's just lack of 629 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: a lot of motion and play action and they're just 630 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: not putting Burrow in great spots to succeed. So yeah, 631 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: I don't mind a classic Thomas spot. 632 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 4: My kids want to have a good course. 633 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: That's taxes and the Tomins spot, So don't hate that 634 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: at all. For my first pick of the week, twelve, 635 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: Sunday six pack and the second overall, I'm going with 636 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams plus one at bet MGM against 637 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. It's funny now Packers fans all 638 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: think I hate them because I've bet against them the 639 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: past couple of weeks and two years ago on this podcast, 640 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: at the end of every episode, I said, go pack 641 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: go with my Packers future. 642 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: A week week leagues stuck, it's a week tweak. 643 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: I love Packers fans, some of the most passionate in 644 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: all of sports. I hope to get up to Lando 645 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: and I have some beer with some of you one day. 646 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 2: So I bucked this, so that actually never ever been 647 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: But look, the Packers are a really good team. Nev 648 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. You're gonna have a chance to win when 649 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: you're fully healthy. And then look, I said, this is 650 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: going into the Minnesota game, the defense was playing an 651 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: elite level. But I was like, there's no way they 652 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: can sustain this with Kevin King, Russell Douglas and you 653 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: know Stokes and Shannon Sullivan and look, Kirk Cousins went 654 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: off last week, and so I think that there's still 655 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: more regression coming for this defense, which is still banged up. Look, 656 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: I mean you lose Gyr Alexander, He's one of the 657 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: best corners in the NFLU, los Atarius Smith, you know, 658 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: Rashaun Gary's banged up, and you gotta keep in mind 659 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: there's a buye coming up next week for Green Band 660 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: much need to buy and they're the most one of 661 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: the most cautious teams in the NFL when it comes 662 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: to injuries. But here's it's just a great matchup for 663 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: the Rams. They went out and got von Miller for 664 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: these teams, not for the Diners. Right, still don't match 665 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: up well with these power running teams. 666 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. 667 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Green Bay comes out and you know, you 668 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: see a lot of aj Dillon. I think the Rams 669 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: would take that. Keep the ball out of Roger's hands. 670 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: With book they are an elite pass defense because they 671 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: can get after the quarterback, they can disrupt the pocket, 672 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: and they have a really good secondary led by Jalen Ramsey, 673 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: who people think he's going to cover shadow Devanta Adams. 674 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: He's not really doing that this year. 675 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: I can see him doing it though. That's the thing. 676 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: They've wanted to get him up closer to the line 677 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. 678 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: And star, a star round star. 679 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but not every team like like, yeah, the teams 680 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: have number one receivers, but not every team has a 681 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: number one receiver worth shadowing if you think about it, right, 682 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: But like the Packers do, like unquestionably without a doubt, 683 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: absolutely due. 684 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he'll be on Adams sometimes and yeah, 685 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: maybe they do shadow I think it would be smart here. 686 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: I know Rams fans are clamoring for that, but it's 687 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: a really good matchup for the Rams, especially when you 688 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: consider here's the projected starting offensive line for the Packers 689 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: on Sunday, Nijeman at left tackle, John run Lucas, Patrick 690 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: Royce Newman, and Billy Turner. That's it. Backyard has had 691 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: another surgery. He's al Alton Jenkins, who's elite, just went 692 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: I are they lost their center who was playing really well. 693 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: He went on IR a couple of weeks ago. At 694 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: this offensive line is a makeshift unit. And now Aaron Rodgers, 695 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: who's has a toe injury that he says he can't 696 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: wait to get to the buy for he's not even 697 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: I don't think he's practicing much at all during the week, 698 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 2: And now you have all these new offensive line pieces 699 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 2: going up against Aaron Donald and now you're throwing von 700 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: Miller in there. This spells trouble for Rogers and I 701 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: don't know you could see. I hope that Rogers doesn't 702 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: get hurt. And some of the throws he makes, he's 703 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: so fun to watch. So just a great matchup for 704 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: the Rams. And then also on the other side of 705 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: the ball, it's talk about the russion on the defense. 706 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: The Rams have the offensive firepower to take advantage of this. 707 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: And speaking of bye weeks, it'll serve the Packers really 708 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: well next week get a lot healthier. Well, the Rams 709 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: really needed there by a week, mainly because Matt Stafford 710 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: was dealing with a back injury and ankle injury. Now 711 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: he's reportedly back to a hundred he's reportedly back to 712 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. He wasn't even practicing before some of 713 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: the games. His back was clearly bothering. You saw some 714 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: of the throws that he made in the past two games. 715 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: So I expect a very sharp Stafford here against the 716 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: secondary that the Rams should be able to attack, should 717 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 2: be able to run on this defense as well. Sean 718 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 2: McVay great in this spot. Fourteen to seven and one 719 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 2: against the spread off a loss sixty six point seven 720 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: percent average margin of over three points per game. So 721 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: I think this is a great bounce back spot for 722 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 2: the Rams off of a by against a beat up 723 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: Packers team. This is just the right matchup for the 724 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: Rams and the right spot and opportunity. Rogers won't make 725 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: it easy, but I think the Rams get home here. 726 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and on the road off a loss, he's nine 727 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: and three against the spread with a cover margin, not 728 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: even a margin victory, a cover margin of seven points. 729 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: He's covered by a touchdown in twelve games on the 730 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: road off all off. 731 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah that margin by the way that I said to 732 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 2: the three point when that's the cover margin as well. 733 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: So yeah and seven on the road. Geeesh. So yeah, 734 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: it's a great spot for the Rams. 735 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: What do you think about the line moving? Because I 736 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: will probably be joining you on this one. I know 737 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: the Packers tend to be a public team. Right now, 738 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: we have tracked fifty five percent of the tickets on 739 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: the Packers, but sixty six percent of the money's on 740 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: the Rams. So are we getting anything better than a 741 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: one here? As I might as well just kind of 742 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: hop right now? 743 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: I don't think so. The Rams are pretty much healthy 744 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: the Packers. I mean there could be better. There only 745 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: could be worse news for the Packers with Gary or 746 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 2: you know, potentially Rogers. I mean, he hasd this this 747 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: foot injury that's apparently really bothering him. Didn't see the mind, 748 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 2: didn't see them bothering last week during the Vikings game. 749 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: But there's a buy on deck. Packers extremely cautious as 750 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 2: an organization when it comes to injuries. So yeah, I 751 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 2: don't think you're getting better than one. 752 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 4: To know. 753 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 2: The Packers are a public team. From what I've seen 754 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 2: in the market. Could be wrong, but I think one 755 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: is the one is the graph here. 756 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: I just bet it, Tota. Let me just put that 757 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: in the apps. This is what I was looking at too. 758 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: I would have picked this one probably as one of 759 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: my picks if you had. And I just think it is, 760 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: like you said, a great matchup for the Rams, just 761 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, they got von Miller for this. 762 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: Don't have Odell a little more acclimated, you know, this 763 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: week two? I think that's big going against this package and. 764 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: Everything starts with a run on their offense, and you 765 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 2: can run on this screen. Baby. 766 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: Well, my second pick and the third overall of the 767 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: week twelve Sunday six pack, I'm going with the Minnesota 768 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: Vikings plus three at the San Francisco forty nine ers. 769 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer This is another good spot for him. But 770 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: this is another one of those matchups where it's just 771 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: two teams pretty evenly matched. You know, San Francisco a 772 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: couple of ticks better in dvaway there's seventh, Minnesota's eleventh. 773 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: Both teams have six point seven estimated wins according to 774 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: Football Outsiders, which looks at that you know the DVOA 775 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 1: rnals and point differentials and all that stuff, So pretty 776 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: even we match game. I think it should be inside 777 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: of field though, so you know, as long as you 778 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: can get it at three or more. I know it 779 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: was at two and a half at one point. I 780 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: think this is one of those wet down spots for 781 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: San Francisco. You know, they're coming off a couple of 782 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: strong performances. Uh, you know, they handle the Rams easily. 783 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: Then they get a gimme an easy one against the Jaguars, 784 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: don't really put up much of a fight. They pick 785 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: up the first quarter on one of their drives. But 786 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: now you got this Minnesota team coming to town, their 787 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: defense is playing well. You know they're they're deep on defense. 788 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: They can throw the ball, they can run it, even 789 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: though they're underlying run metrics aren't that good. But you 790 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: just look at these spots in the past when you 791 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: know Kyle Shanahan's been here, and you say, okay, forty 792 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: nine ers at home against a similar team should be 793 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: able to take care of business. Kyle Shanahan just nine 794 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 1: nineteen and one thirty two percent against the spread as 795 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: a favorite in games where he's not coming off to 796 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: buy so as long AS's on normal rest nine to 797 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: nineteen and one as a home favorite, two thirteen and 798 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: one against the spread is Kyle Shanahan when not coming 799 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: off of buy two and thirteen, he's covering thirteen percent 800 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: of his games as a home favorite. And then you 801 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: look at the forty nine ers. They're coming off a 802 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: blowout win, so it's a letdown spot home teams that 803 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: are five hundred or below. So teams that are no 804 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 1: better than five hundred coming off a win of sixteen 805 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: plus just seventeen and twenty nine with two pushes against 806 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: the spread just thirty seven percent since two thousand and three, 807 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: according to our Action webs database. And then you look 808 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: at San Francisco this year, they're just one and four 809 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: at home. That Rams win was their first home win 810 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: all year. And I don't even need to go into 811 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 1: the numbers of just a Levi stadium curse. Like most 812 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: forty nine Spans stick, the stadium is cursed. You know, 813 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: you go in the comments that like the Athletic or 814 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: you know any place where you know the forty nine 815 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: ers bugs and all the fans tick the stadium's cursed. 816 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: It's for whatever reason they haven't played well there. So 817 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: you know, I'm you know, two even we matched teams, 818 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm getting a field goal and it's a bigger wet 819 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: down spot for San Francisco. Mike Zimmer usually does well 820 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: in these spots. We talk about it all the time 821 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: as a favorite, kind of like Shanahan, but as an 822 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 1: underdog thirty three and twenty sixty two percent against the spread. 823 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, back in Mike Zimmer. It seems like every week, 824 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: same picks Pittsburgh Minnesota, Pittsburgh Minnesota. So we're going with 825 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: We're going with Minnesota here, just a wet down spot 826 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 1: for the forty nine Ers, but against the Minnesota team 827 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: that's just it's very good too. Both of these teams 828 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: are playing good football. But so I'm just taking the 829 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: points here. 830 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll touch with this game later, but uh, fort 831 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 2: nine ers, they've really picked it off here as a team. 832 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily as the team I'm going to be 833 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 2: looking to back down the stretch, especially within their division. 834 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 2: They were just getting really unlucky. That had a lot 835 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 2: of injuries. Again, their first in their offenses, first in 836 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 2: the paper play over the past month. Uh, in the 837 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: entire NFL, they're really starting to get rolling. They've just 838 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 2: been unlucky. They're a lot better than the record. Same 839 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 2: thing with the Vikings. By the way, these two teams 840 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 2: are very similar. And now this is a huge game 841 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 2: that could potentially determine which one of these teams gets 842 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 2: that seventh spot, that final wild card, because this will 843 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 2: be a head to head tiebreaker and be a team 844 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 2: that no one wants to play. That two seed does 845 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 2: not want to play the seventh seed if it's either 846 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 2: San Francisco or Minnesota. But I'll touch more on this 847 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 2: game later. By the way, Kirk Cousins playing just at 848 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 2: a phenomenal level. 849 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like he doesn't get the credit, right. It's 850 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: like he has a one bad game in there and 851 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: then you know I maybe had two, but you know, 852 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: every other game, I mean, he's making throws and he 853 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: should be. I mean he's got two great receivers so 854 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 1: and a great running back. But yeah, who you going 855 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: for your second? All right? 856 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: For my second pick in the fourth overall of the 857 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 2: week twelve NFL Sunday six pack, I'm going with the 858 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers minus one and a half at be MGM 859 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 2: at the Miami Dolphins. What I don't love necessarily love 860 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 2: this number. It's not like I make Carolina minus four 861 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 2: four and a half. I'd chow a bit of value 862 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 2: on Karada, and I just love the matchup here. One. 863 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 2: I don't think either team's gonna be able to throw 864 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 2: the ball in this particular matchup, so Carolina can't really 865 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: throw the ball. Miami's defense is playing really well, really aggressive. 866 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 2: They have good corners. Pass defensive metrics have been a 867 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 2: little disappointing, but this is a team that can still 868 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: defend the pass. Carolina one of the best pass defenses 869 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 2: in the NFL. So it's gonna come down to who 870 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: can run the balls. A game I think is gonna 871 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 2: be low scoring. Who can run the ball more successfully? Well, 872 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: the Dolphins can't run the ball. Rush EPA offense Panthers eighteenth, 873 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 2: Dolphins thirtieth, Rush success rate Panthers fourteenth, Dolphins thirtieth. The 874 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: Panthers will have be able to sustain a few more 875 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 2: drives than the Dolphins because the Dolphins can't run the ball. 876 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: What's gonna happen. It's gonna come down to Tua behind 877 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: what I think is the league's worst offensive line trying 878 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 2: to contain a pass hutch that's number one in the 879 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 2: NFL and adjusted sack rate. That's not gonna end well. 880 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 2: So I think that you know, you'll see some mistake 881 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 2: from Tua. Yeah, I mean, I can't run it. This 882 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 2: is just all out attack the quarterback. This secondary is 883 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 2: playing at a high level, and I think on both 884 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 2: sides of the ball, Caroline is a bit undervalued right 885 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 2: now because their season long metrics include some Sam Donald 886 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 2: which is never a good thing, and no McCaffrey. McCaffrey back. 887 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 2: Now on the other side of the ball, you know, 888 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 2: Shaq Thompson was out, you added Gilmore, you had a 889 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: lot of other injuries in the defensive backfield, and you know, 890 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 2: they were still playing pretty well, but they've added a 891 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 2: lot of new pieces. They got rid of Donald, which 892 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 2: is always a net positive. They're going to go run 893 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 2: heavy here. I don't expect them to put up a 894 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,439 Speaker 2: ton of points, but I think that they'll be able 895 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 2: to sustain just a few more drives than Miami. I 896 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 2: think that their defense will make a few more plays 897 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 2: on two who will most likely be in more passing 898 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 2: situations because they can't run it at all. And that's 899 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,479 Speaker 2: when I think this Carolina defense feats. So I really 900 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 2: like this matchup here for the Panthers. I will take 901 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: them minus one and a half here. 902 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with the defense. I love this Panthers defense. 903 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 1: And the Dolphins have a real trouble running the ball 904 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: against pretty much everyone except the Jets. So if they 905 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: can't run the ball, you know they really they only 906 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: have like one I mean, they have two good receivers. 907 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: I guess you call Gasiki a receiver, but I mean 908 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 1: Carolina's so deep in the secondary that they can literally 909 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: treat Gasiki like a receiver and put a corner on 910 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 1: him if they so please. They look, Carolina on defense 911 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: is going to lock up, and I agree that they 912 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: are the better offense in this game. Cam Newton gives 913 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: them something that you know that Sam Donald didn't give them, 914 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: that PJ. Walker didn't give them, and they're still going 915 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: to be fired up, you know. Now they're coming off 916 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: a loss. I mean, they're still in the playoff hunt too, 917 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: so I think you're gonna get a motivated effort from Carolina. 918 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 1: And Miami's averaging just six yards per target against man 919 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: coverage compared to seven point three against zone. And like 920 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 1: you said, Carolina has more than enough personnel to play 921 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: man coverage in this spot and just you know, blitz 922 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,959 Speaker 1: the quarterback, so it could get ugly. 923 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're graded out top three in the league 924 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 2: against tight ends for the get sickie matchups. So yeah, 925 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 2: give me the Panthers. 926 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: Here, all right. For my third pick and the fifth 927 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: overall in the Sunday six pack, I'm going with the 928 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers minus three at Indianapolis. And listen, Indianapolis 929 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: playing some great football. You know they really are. There 930 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: are a couple of overtime games away from being on 931 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: a pretty huge winning streak right now, they're kind of 932 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: back to that level. That we saw them last year 933 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: when they you know, they were a little bit healthier, 934 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: they had Rivers at quarterback. But I don't think it's 935 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: a good matchup for Indianapolis at all for a couple 936 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: of reasons. First and foremost, Tom Brady. Everyone says, looking 937 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 1: at you know, the Bucks this year, what's the narrative 938 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: they can't play on the road. That might be true, 939 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean, played poorly on the road. Their point differential 940 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: is what like plus it's like twenty eight points better 941 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: on the at home than on the road. But this 942 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 1: isn't a normal road matchup for a couple of reasons. 943 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: Number one, it's indoors, So no, Brady a little bit older. 944 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: You know, some of these outdoor games, some of these 945 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: road games, I think a little tougher, but there's no pressure. 946 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: There's no the Coats aren't getting pressure. So you got 947 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: an indoor game where the Coats aren't getting pressured. There 948 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: third from the bottom of the league in pressure percentage 949 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: at eighteen point four percent, and we saw what happening 950 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 1: against the Giants, who are also in the bottom five. 951 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: You know, it was just the Bucks could have put 952 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: up forty five in that matchup, and then On the 953 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: other side, Johnson terror has been an absolute beast. The Bucks. 954 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: They still they don't have Vitavea, they probably won't be 955 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: getting it back, but still one of the better run 956 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 1: defenses in the league. So you know, you expect them 957 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: to be able to slow him down a little bit 958 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: more than some of these other teams that if there's 959 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: such a thing. But Tampa Bay's defense, they're getting a 960 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: little bit healthier. You know, Murphy Bunting is back, and 961 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: you know defense is up to seventh in DVA. You know, 962 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 1: despite all the injuries, there's still seventh, and that schedule adjusted, 963 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: so their offense is first and their defense to seventh, 964 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: and their first in overall DVOA. Indianapolis is eighth in 965 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: in DVA, eleventh on offense and ninth on defense. So 966 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay still got the better unit on both sides 967 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: of the ball. I got a two and a half. 968 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: If you can get it two and a half for 969 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: minus one twenty or less, I think it would be 970 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: worth it. Here could be a close game. The Coats 971 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 1: have been competitive, but I could also see Tampa Bay 972 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: blowing him out here. Tom Brady's still not happy about 973 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: that losing streak. He still knows he has work to do. 974 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: You know, they didn't just completely blow out the Giants, 975 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: which I think may have been good because it'll keep 976 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: them focused and things to improve on. Gronk back I 977 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: think really opens up that offense because it gives Brady 978 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: another option over the middle of the field to just 979 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: jam it into another big guy. And Brake's playing well. 980 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: Maybe they even get Antonio Brown back here. And I 981 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 1: just don't know that the Coats have enough outside of 982 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: Tailor to keep up with the Bucks, you know, and 983 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: getting to shootut out here. I think the Coats good 984 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,959 Speaker 1: match up against the Bills. The Holts like to drop 985 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: back in the zone. They played two high safety Josh 986 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 1: Allen struggling with accuracy, so maybe we should have saw 987 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: that coming. But Tom Brady's not going to struggle with accuracy. 988 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 1: He's going to know exactly where to go with the football, 989 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: and I think he's going to make the Colts kind 990 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: of score on the other side, and that's where they 991 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: start getting into trouble where they just can't hand it 992 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: to Jonathan Taylor, you know, thirty times a game where 993 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: Wentz has to make some plays. So give me the 994 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: Bucks minus three Frank Reich at home hasn't been great, 995 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, thirteen and sixteen, forty five percent against the spread, 996 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: just one in five against the spread is a home underdog, 997 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 1: so it's been rare. But when the Colts are home underdogs, 998 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: it's usually the market's usually been right about that. So 999 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: give me the Bucks minus three at Indeed, I do 1000 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: have to. 1001 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,240 Speaker 2: Give some credit to Quity Pay who's playing really well, 1002 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 2: so he is generated some pressure. And then there's a 1003 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 2: lot of promise with this kid. O'danggo that both of 1004 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 2: them were draft picks of the Colts in this most 1005 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 2: recent draft, and he's he's only played four games, but 1006 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,879 Speaker 2: he's looked pretty good. But yeah, I agree, I don't 1007 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,280 Speaker 2: think the defense is idea here to face the Bucks. 1008 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 2: Uh Yeah. I was actually gonna be like looking into Okay, 1009 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 2: can Jonathan Taylor have a lot of success here? Yes, 1010 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 2: he's just been tearing it up and well Quintin Nelson's 1011 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 2: day to day and I'll break some news for you 1012 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 2: here on the pod. B to ba is good to 1013 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 2: go or Bruce Jans No really? Yeah, so that's that's 1014 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 2: amazing wonder worth about a half a point. 1015 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to three yeah, it's going to three everywhere. 1016 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: I actually did not know that when I bet. I 1017 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 1: just liked the matchup for the offense. I wasn't kind of, 1018 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: but that's big news because yeah, I saw Quintin Nelson 1019 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: in a heat, so that didn't look good. I mean, 1020 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,399 Speaker 1: hopefully he's day to day. 1021 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 2: Just Nelson Candy is back. I mean that is just 1022 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 2: so elite at one of the primer reasons why. I 1023 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: mean the scheme too, but just him in the middle 1024 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 2: makes this team impossible to run against. I do show 1025 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 2: value here, so I don't disagree with you. For my 1026 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 2: third pick in the sixth overall of the week twelve 1027 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 2: NFL Sunday six pat, I'm going with the Oh boy 1028 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 2: Houston Texans MIN two and a half at BETAMGM at 1029 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 2: home against the New York Jets. Look, it's slim pickens 1030 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 2: out there this weekend. There's three games on Thanksgiving. But 1031 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 2: this is the third side that I did play, and 1032 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 2: I do like it. I don't you know the number. 1033 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 2: It's not the greatest value in the world, but I 1034 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 2: actually do make this three. And here's why there's gonna 1035 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 2: be a simple handicap. As of right now, I actually 1036 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 2: have the Jets rated worse than the Texans. Believe that 1037 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 2: or not. Believe it or not from an overall roster perspective, 1038 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 2: assuming and there's not a huge drop off regardless, but 1039 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 2: assuming that Zach Wilson is going to start. That is 1040 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 2: the word. The most recent word is Zach Wilson's a go. 1041 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 2: I think he's the worst quarterback in the NFL as 1042 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 2: of right now. He can still you know, turn into 1043 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 2: a decent quarterback. But if you look at any metric 1044 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,959 Speaker 2: across the board, he has been the worst rookie. He's 1045 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 2: just been horrendous. What have we also seen this year? 1046 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 2: We've seen quarterbacks come back from injury, right, and you 1047 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 2: look awful. There's rust. It takes a while to get 1048 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 2: back into the flow a struggling rookie coming back from injury. Look, 1049 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,760 Speaker 2: I have no problem taking the Texans, why barely ahead 1050 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 2: of the Jets if they had Flacco. Jets really gonna 1051 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 2: get up for this game, don't I don't know. But 1052 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 2: the Texans have Tyrod Taylor, the Jets have Zach Wilson. 1053 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 2: That's pretty much as simple as a handicap as I 1054 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 2: can give you. I'm getting the home team under three 1055 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 2: with a quarterback who has shown me nothing so far. 1056 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 2: He got us to the window in Tennessee with some 1057 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 2: lucky throws, but other than that he's been horrendous. Might 1058 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 2: be a huge bust. We'll find out. But give me 1059 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 2: Tyrod Taylor and his legs at defense. I got some 1060 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 2: confidence last week with that Tennessee win, picking off Towne 1061 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 2: Hill four times, just went to three. Would not play 1062 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 2: it two and a half, no advanced handicap. Just give 1063 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 2: me the Texans. 1064 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna sit back in that covered Tampa two. And 1065 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 1: that seems like not what you want. Zach Wilson. You know, 1066 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 1: a guy who likes to throw down the field and 1067 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: struggles three defenses, probably not what you want. So yeah, 1068 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I kind of make it right in 1069 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: that two and a half three range. So I don't 1070 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 1: have a strong feel for this game. I mean, this 1071 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: is just two bad teams. Maybe if this is later 1072 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: in the weekend we were recording it, I would have 1073 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: a stronger take. But yeah, it's not much I can 1074 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 1: add other than they finally started playing Elijah more so 1075 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: our pep talk work. 1076 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 2: He looks great. Yeah, he looks great. 1077 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for our week twelve 1078 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: Sunday six pack to recap, Stucky is going with the 1079 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 1: Rams plus one, the Panthers minus one and a half, 1080 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: and the Texans minus two and a half. 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I'm totally embarrassed and totally ashamed. 1100 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: This week's Coaches pep Talk comes from Steve Martin in 1101 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety film My Blue Heaven, And just like 1102 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: we did last Thanksgiving, we're dedicating it to America's most 1103 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: famous Italian American quarterback, Jimmy Garoppolo. Just hope he doesn't cover. 1104 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: I was in a hurry. 1105 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 5: I was on my way to church to say a 1106 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 5: few Nolvena's for Thanksgiving. 1107 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is not a Catholic holiday. 1108 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 5: Thanksgiving is very big with the Italians. Turkey catcher Tory 1109 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 5: sweep with Theta Parmerjan. 1110 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 1: There is no such thing as Thanksgiving in Italy. 1111 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,320 Speaker 2: It is an American holiday. 1112 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 5: Ever been to Sicily by any chance? No, Thanksgiving is 1113 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 5: very big in Sicily on account of the large number 1114 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 5: of Sicilians who went to America and then got thrown 1115 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 5: back out. 1116 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into our favorite total of the week. Buck. 1117 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 1: I went first with the six packs. Where are you 1118 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 1: going for the total. 1119 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm going with the New England Patriots and Tennessee Titans 1120 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 2: under forty four and a half at MGM. The Titans 1121 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 2: are an underteen people, they're now an under team. That's 1122 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 2: string of overs. 1123 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 1: That's oh yeah, they're like twenty one and four or 1124 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 1: something like that. Something. Well, I have. 1125 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,839 Speaker 2: News for the Titans are now defensive team. Uh. Their 1126 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 2: defense is really impressed me. They're getting a lot of 1127 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 2: pressure up front. You know, you have a couple of 1128 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 2: these guys, I mean, Buyer's playing at an all pro 1129 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 2: level of safety, but guys like Foldner coming on in 1130 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 2: a corner. But the pressure that they're able to generate 1131 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 2: up front is really making a huge difference for this defense. 1132 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 2: And they're able to do it without blitzing. Uh. Here's 1133 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,760 Speaker 2: the Titans profile for you. Twenty second DVOA offense, twelfth 1134 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 2: in defense. Uh, they're you know, sixteenth in EPA per 1135 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 2: play offense. If you ever play defense better eleven or twelfth. 1136 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 2: This defense is way ahead of the offense. 1137 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: Now. 1138 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 2: In fairness, the offense is dealt with offensive line injuries. 1139 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 2: There's no Derrick Henry olia Jones is on ir A. J. 1140 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 2: Brown is banged up and guess what was a buy. 1141 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 2: Next week the Titans, and they're sitting in pretty good 1142 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 2: position for the playoffs. They are coming off a loss, 1143 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 2: but you might air on the side of caution with 1144 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,399 Speaker 2: some of the injuries here, and their defense is playing up, 1145 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 2: and their defense is playing really well. I mean last 1146 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 2: week they lost to the Texans because their offense was 1147 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 2: that bad, right, I mean they had four picks. I 1148 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 2: don't think the Texans got the two hundred yards. So 1149 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 2: you go back to that Rams game, it looks like 1150 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 2: they scored a lot of points. It was all off 1151 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 2: the defense. They couldn't do anything on offense. How about 1152 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 2: the last five games in Titans total scores, total combine 1153 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 2: points thirty five, forty four, forty four, thirty and then 1154 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 2: sixty five in the overtime game against the Colts in 1155 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 2: again it was twenty four to twenty four at the 1156 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 2: end of regulation. But now that this Titan steve, this 1157 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 2: Titan's offense is a shelf itself. If AJ Brown does 1158 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 2: go Bill Belichick, get one job, get dick away A J. Brown, 1159 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,439 Speaker 2: no one better at doing that. So I just don't 1160 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 2: see how this Titans offense has much success here. The 1161 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,800 Speaker 2: whole offense is now just I mean, you know, obviously 1162 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 2: on the Polio Jones and you know A Brown's been 1163 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,439 Speaker 2: banged up too, but the whole offense is built off 1164 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 2: of Derrick Henry running the ball and then the fear 1165 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 2: of defenses and having to react to that, and then 1166 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 2: the play action off of it. It's just a broken 1167 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 2: offense right now, and the defense is playing up. I 1168 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,760 Speaker 2: don't think the market is respecting this Titans defense enough 1169 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 2: and took me a while to come around as well. 1170 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 2: And on the other side of the ball, the Patriots 1171 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,720 Speaker 2: defense is bawling right now on all levels. They should 1172 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 2: shut down this Titans offense and these two teams that 1173 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 2: are twenty third and twenty fourth in situation mutual praise. 1174 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 2: I don't see the Titans getting to fourteen, past fourteen 1175 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 2: or seventeen in this game with the state of their 1176 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 2: offense right now. So I'll take my chances with the 1177 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 2: Titans defense, which is playing extremely well, holding the Patriots 1178 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 2: to say, you know, under twenty eight to thirty, which 1179 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 2: I think they can do, so give me the under here. 1180 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this Titan's the I know they put 1181 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 1: up yardage after we on Houston in a losing effort. 1182 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 1: Kind of one of those floopy games where they outgain 1183 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: Houston by a ton for twenty to one ninety but 1184 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 1: other you know, Rams they get one hundred ninety four 1185 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: yards of total offense. The Saints they get, you know, 1186 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty four. Now, those games are kind 1187 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: of the opposite game scripts a little bit, But I 1188 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: have real concerns about the Titans just generating yardage on 1189 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 1: a play to play in week to week basis going forward. 1190 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't disagree. I may join you here 1191 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: for my total. I was thinking about Denver and Chargers, 1192 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 1: but I think I'm actually gonna go with Carolina Miami 1193 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: under forty two at bet MGM, and you kind of 1194 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: hit on a lot of the key points. Miami offense 1195 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 1: going to struggle to get going because they can't run 1196 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: the ball, and on the other side, Carolina is not 1197 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 1: going to really have much interest in throwing it. So 1198 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: I think you're just going to see a kind of 1199 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 1: low scoring game with a lot of defensive plays. Carolina 1200 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,439 Speaker 1: is twenty ninth in offensive DVOA, Miami's twenty eighth. Now, 1201 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: like you said, probably not, Carolina up a couple of 1202 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 1: ticks there because they have been playing with you know, 1203 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: not a full deck or as suppose it is now 1204 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: for much of the year. But still Miami's defense playing 1205 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,959 Speaker 1: really well. Like you mentioned, Miami has given up nine, 1206 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 1: ten and seventeen points over the last three games. Yeah, 1207 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: one of them is against the Texans, one of them 1208 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: is against the Jets, but they also have the Ravens 1209 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 1: to ten points. This defense is really coming on strong. 1210 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: And you know, we saw Miami make a run last year. 1211 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: Brian Flores, it is a guy that I think defensively 1212 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: knows a little bit. So I just don't see this game, 1213 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, getting to where both of these teams are 1214 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: in the twenties, you know, and that's pretty much what 1215 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 1: it comes down to. So give me the Panthers and 1216 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 1: the Dolphins under forty two. This is more like a 1217 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 1: forty thirty nine to forty type of total for me. 1218 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: And we could have a lot of humidity. I think 1219 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: we are in Miami, humidity is high. That usually helps 1220 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: the unders as well. All right, with the recap, stucky 1221 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: gooing Patriots type under forty four and a half, I'm 1222 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: going Panthers Dolphins under forty two. Nowa it's time for 1223 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 1: our favorite teaser of the week. Oh yeah, six point teasers. Team, 1224 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 1: don't change, don't tease me, try to please. You're unfamiliar 1225 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: with teasers. It's when you get an additional amount of 1226 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: points towards the spread allocated when you make two or 1227 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: more bets. So, for example, an eight point favorite would 1228 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 1: become just a two point favorite, and an eight point 1229 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 1: underdog would become a fourteen point underdog if you had 1230 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 1: a six point teaser, which is the standard. Stuck has 1231 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 1: a lot of great content out on teasers. You could 1232 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 1: just google Stucky and teasers or search it on Action 1233 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: network dot com. Stuck. Where you're going with your teaser? 1234 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,439 Speaker 2: Four week twelve, Yeah, keep it simple here. I don't 1235 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 2: mind combining the Cowboys with one of these teams, but 1236 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 2: for just Sunday purposes, I will be on this teaser 1237 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 2: teasing the Vikings up from two and a half or 1238 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 2: from three to nine, and the Broncos up from two 1239 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 2: and a half to eight and a half against the Chargers, 1240 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Broncos coming off of a bye, Chargers coming off that 1241 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 2: emotional game, and all the Charges do is play one 1242 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 2: posession games and guess what that's all the Vikings do 1243 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 2: is play one session games. Vikings have yet to play 1244 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 2: a game that has not been decided by one possession. 1245 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Charges have only had two. So all these teams do 1246 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 2: is play close games. I expect both of these games 1247 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 2: to be close to just a war in in that 1248 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 2: San Francisco Minnesota game for playoff positioning with two teams 1249 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 2: playing really well, should be a very competitive game. You know, 1250 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 2: if you need cousins to go down and get a 1251 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 2: backdoor against this, you know the San Francisco secondary, which 1252 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 2: hasn't been great late playing prevent you should be able 1253 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 2: to get that too. Also, with the Broncos, as I mentioned, 1254 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 2: coming off of a bye here, arguably playing for their 1255 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 2: playoff lives at home, all Chargers do is play close games. 1256 01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 2: Their special teams will keep you in it if their 1257 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 2: run defense can't. But this, I think this Broncos team 1258 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 2: can be is able to attack this Staley defense through 1259 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 2: the run through some short passes with Bridgewater Bridgewater underdog 1260 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 2: goat by the way, So I think the Broncos can 1261 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 2: keep this close in the division game. So I think 1262 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 2: those are the two most logical sides to tease this weekend. 1263 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going with the Broncos as well, and I'm 1264 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: gonna go with the Rams here just because you get 1265 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 1: them the plus one up to plus seven. I just 1266 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win this game, but I don't 1267 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 1: see them losing by more than a touchdown either way. Like, 1268 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna hang right in it, maybe get 1269 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: unlucky with like an overtime and Packers win on like 1270 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: a long bout of the Scantling bomb or something like that. Hope, 1271 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 1: not because I bet the Rams, but I'll go Rams 1272 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 1: plus one and plus seven and the Broncos for the 1273 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: same reason you said. I think it's Chargers team. You know, 1274 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: I love I like Staley. I think he's a good coach, 1275 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: but he still seems a little bit overrated. I mean, 1276 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 1: every week they're playing coast games, they're surviving on if 1277 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: they're down luck. Herbert looks amazing one moment, in the 1278 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: next moment its making like a head scratching play. So yeah, 1279 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 1: eight special teams still stay Yeah in Mile High. Wait 1280 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 1: in the season Broncos coming off of bye. I mean, 1281 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 1: if this guy's the three, is a good argument to 1282 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 1: just play the Broncos here. But it's two and a half, 1283 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 1: so we will tease it up so yeah, that's what. 1284 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,440 Speaker 2: We're Yeah, and by the way, it's a good it's 1285 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,439 Speaker 2: a well timed bye week for Denver as well. It's 1286 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,919 Speaker 2: a team that, hey, take a look at what they 1287 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 2: had their defense, their projected starting defense coming into the air, 1288 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 2: and then take a look at the defense now, especially 1289 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 2: at linebacker. You know, some guys in the secondary also 1290 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 2: brought the chuck will be back this week. But having 1291 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,439 Speaker 2: Fangio take those two weeks and figure some things out, 1292 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 2: work out some kinks with a lot of the new pieces, 1293 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 2: I think you'll see a sharper defense out of the 1294 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 2: by here. 1295 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I thought about the total in this game. 1296 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: You know, he did good things. 1297 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 2: He did what he did last weekend. If you look 1298 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 2: at the defense out great out last year, like and 1299 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 2: it was a shell unit of all those injuries. So yeah, 1300 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,479 Speaker 2: I don't mind the underlook either. 1301 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, may end up playing that one as well. You know, 1302 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 1: it's just the Fangio and Stale. You got the two 1303 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, deep safety gods, kind of fair and off 1304 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: against each other. So this could be in like a 1305 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen another twenty seventeen type game, even though the 1306 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 1: offenses have been better than the defenses for both for 1307 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: both teams this year, all right, that's gonna do it. 1308 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 1: For our favorite teaser, Stucky is going with Minnesota plus 1309 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 1: three up to plus nine and Denver plus two and 1310 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 1: a half up to plus eight and a half. And 1311 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm going with the Rams plus one to plus seven 1312 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: and the Broncos plus two and a half to plus 1313 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 1: eight and a half. Now it's time for our money 1314 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 1: line underdog parlay. 1315 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 2: Turning good weekends into great weekends. It's time for the 1316 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 2: money line parlay. 1317 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:54,240 Speaker 1: All right, almost almost had had the Pittsburgh Steelers do it, 1318 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: and the same statement. They weren't very close, but alas 1319 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: we got to get back and hit another one. These 1320 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 1: have been doing pretty good this year. Where are you 1321 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,439 Speaker 1: going for your moneyline dog this week? 1322 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 2: I am gonna go with the Jacksonville Jaguars against the 1323 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons. This Jacksonville Jaguars defensive front is really underrated. 1324 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 2: I've checked them out a lot. I mean, look at 1325 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 2: the run defensive metrics, like they're able to get some pressure. 1326 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 2: The Bills are having a like triple team. Take them. 1327 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 2: Brian and the Falcons just stink, and I make the Jags. 1328 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm so surprised by this based on where I started 1329 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 2: both teams at the beginning of the year. But I 1330 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 2: make the Jags a slight favorite here. The Falcons are 1331 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 2: just awful. They look lifeless. There's just nothing going great 1332 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 2: for them. I'll take a shot with the Jags here 1333 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 2: and Trevor Lawrence. This Falcons team is bad. Aj Terrell 1334 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 2: is turning into a hell of a player at corner 1335 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 2: and like the next crop of really good corners, and 1336 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 2: Quadrell Patterson, Kordell Patterson is unbelievable to watch. Pitts will 1337 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 2: eventually be good at it's good now, but I mean 1338 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 2: like a really good Premiere tight end. Their kicker is good. 1339 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 2: That's about it. Those are the only positive things I 1340 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 2: could say about this Falcons team. And they don't get 1341 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 2: any pressure at all, so Lawrence won't have to worry 1342 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 2: about that. And I think that he can make enough 1343 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 2: plays here. And I don't know, I think the tell 1344 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 2: of the shot to win this game, and I think 1345 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 2: they should be a small favorites so we can we 1346 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 2: can roll with Urban. 1347 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually don't hate it. I you know, the Falcons. 1348 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus, if Cordero doesn't play, then it's a smash, 1349 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 1: butot I mean that they almost have no chance. It's 1350 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 1: like they just can't generate offense. The defense isn't really 1351 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 1: doing much of anything. I mean what it was forty 1352 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 1: three to three and then twenty five to nothing without 1353 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 1: the last two scores that they lost by sixty eight 1354 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 1: to three over the last two weeks. That's they might 1355 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 1: be the worst team in the week. I mean, forget 1356 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: the Jets, forget the Jags, forget the Texans. Falcon have 1357 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 1: a good case for it for my moneyline dog. You 1358 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: know where I'm going with this, Mike tom Win Pittsburgh 1359 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 1: plus one sixty at bet mgm tom Win on the 1360 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 1: money line from October on as an un dog twenty 1361 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: eight and twenty one fifty seven percent, as a dog 1362 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 1: off a loss twelve and eight straight up sixty percent, 1363 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,880 Speaker 1: He's winning, you know, more than half of these games 1364 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: as a money line dog straight up. So you know, 1365 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 1: divisional game, like you mentioned, Big Ben tends to own 1366 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: these divisional opponents in Ohio. Revenge game for the Steelers, 1367 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 1: ra Ra Tomlins spot. You ain't new to us no more, now, 1368 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Steelers. You know, first time 1369 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: they lost in like over a month. Last week, you're 1370 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna be focused. Bengals a little bit of a 1371 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 1: letdown spot coming off a blowout win in the Raiders, 1372 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 1: So give me Pittsburgh plus one sixty and if you 1373 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 1: parlay those together, it's a just a little over a 1374 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 1: four x payout. So if you put in one hundred hours, 1375 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: you get back five oh seven sixty two for a 1376 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,600 Speaker 1: profit of four oh seven sixty two. 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Let's get back to the. 1409 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 1: Show all right now as time for best of the rest, 1410 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 1: which are the games we didn't break down in any 1411 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 1: other segment. First up, we got Phillies at the Giants. 1412 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: Three and a half is what Philly's laying on the 1413 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,680 Speaker 1: road with a total of forty six. 1414 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 2: By the way, the Philly offense, they went really run heavy. 1415 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 2: We were saying early near run the ball more. Over 1416 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 2: the past four games, they've been the number one rush 1417 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,599 Speaker 2: heavy team. Yeah, in on early downs and what has 1418 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,280 Speaker 2: their offense done? Second in EPA per play over the 1419 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 2: past four weeks, top five in both rush and dropback 1420 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 2: EPA since going run heavy four weeks ago. Happened after 1421 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,639 Speaker 2: that Raiders game. Eagles defense, by the way over that stretch, 1422 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 2: third in EPA from play, Corners are playing really well. 1423 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 2: They're starting to figure this out. Band spot for the Giants, 1424 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,720 Speaker 2: you know they're coming up a short week. You know 1425 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 2: they were on the road, they're coming back home. Daniel 1426 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 2: Jones is never great at home. But something else keep 1427 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 2: to worth owning Giants thirtieth and DVO against the run 1428 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,879 Speaker 2: thirtieth in EPA per rush on defense and This Eagles 1429 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 2: offense is rolling right now. Competition wasn't great for those 1430 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,680 Speaker 2: first three games, and then they played the Saints and 1431 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,520 Speaker 2: ran all over the Saints who were having a historically 1432 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 2: great season from a run defense perspective. So, yeah, we 1433 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,240 Speaker 2: were wondering about this staff. Now I'm a little bit 1434 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 2: more optimistic about some of the things that I'm seeing. 1435 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,799 Speaker 2: Line is inflated based on what the Eagles have done lately, 1436 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 2: But I'm not sure I want any part of the 1437 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 2: Giants here. They seem like a team that's falling apart. 1438 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 2: Joe Judge calling out coaches and Jason Garrett and that 1439 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 2: the Eagles look good here, But I think the line's 1440 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,439 Speaker 2: a little inflated. No interest for me. 1441 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to be a stay away. I mean, 1442 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is six and twelve, thirty three percent against 1443 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,439 Speaker 1: the spread at home, Giants twenty fifth and early down 1444 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 1: success rate against the run on defense. You mentioned the 1445 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 1: thirtieth and DVA, but I'm still not weighing three and 1446 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 1: a half points on the road divisional game late in 1447 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 1: the year. It's just just a line that there's really 1448 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it because you want to play 1449 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles, but the number is just there's no value 1450 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,879 Speaker 1: on the number. And the other game, we have Cleveland 1451 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:52,599 Speaker 1: at Baltimore Ravens four point favorites, the total forty six. 1452 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,920 Speaker 2: It's Baltimore, gentlemen, the gods will not save you. 1453 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 1: I'm assuming Lamar Jackson is going to be back for 1454 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,840 Speaker 1: this one. Sunday night football has a little, you know, 1455 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 1: a couple extra hours to rest up here. What are 1456 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this one? 1457 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Tuesday night and this is games on Sunday night, 1458 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,840 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of injury uncertainty. I think it 1459 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 2: looks like Conklin's going to be back. It looks like 1460 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,719 Speaker 2: a Hunt might be back for the Browns. The Ravens 1461 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,360 Speaker 2: have a lot of injuries across the board, receiver and 1462 01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,479 Speaker 2: the secondary. I think on the surface right now, from 1463 01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 2: what I know, this line looks about right and I 1464 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,840 Speaker 2: have no interest. But a lot can change between now 1465 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 2: that in the week I will have this game written up. 1466 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,439 Speaker 2: I'll probably go way too in depth about it because 1467 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 2: it's a Ravens game and I'm looking forward to this one, 1468 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,320 Speaker 2: but I don't see any value right now. A lot 1469 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,679 Speaker 2: to change, a lot to figure out from an injury perspective, 1470 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,720 Speaker 2: so make sure you check out actionwork dot com and 1471 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,120 Speaker 2: the Action of Work ap later in the week in 1472 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,240 Speaker 2: all the full right up for that game. 1473 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Ravens have been doing decently in run defense. 1474 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 1: There are six to DVOA, so they're gonna need that. 1475 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree, just too many injuries throughly know 1476 01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 1: what's going on at this point. 1477 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 2: The Browns Rounds run defense has been slipping lately. I'm 1478 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,840 Speaker 2: trying to figure out what's going on with that, and 1479 01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 2: I mean the Lions ran all over them. Penalties have 1480 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,679 Speaker 2: been an issue. Baker Mayfield's not fully healthy, so there's 1481 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 2: a lot of uncertainty on both sides of the ball. 1482 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,880 Speaker 2: But the penalties for the Browns, I mean, they have 1483 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 2: been really bet their number. I think they've yeah, their 1484 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 2: number one in the NFL, and penalty yards they've been 1485 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 2: killing the Browns as well. But Mayfield doesn't look comfortable. 1486 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,360 Speaker 2: A lot of things going on on both sides of 1487 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,080 Speaker 2: the ball here, So yeah, I'll be interested to break 1488 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 2: this one down later in the week. 1489 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,439 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to our Survivor Pool Pick of 1490 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:47,439 Speaker 1: the week. The Survivorpool Pick of the Week. You are 1491 01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 1: still alive in your Survivor pool. I'm guessing, so I 1492 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 1: know you're going with Dallas this week. 1493 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 2: Right, got a bad feeling about the Titans last week. 1494 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 2: I'm glad I went with the Box, kind of like 1495 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 2: the gut feeling out with the Dolphin. Hopefully it's going 1496 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 2: to be down to one thirty two six million take 1497 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 2: all this week. You got to pick one on Thanksgiving 1498 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,280 Speaker 2: and one on Sunday. Brutal. I have to take the 1499 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 2: Cowboys here. I thought about going Raiders and then just 1500 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,840 Speaker 2: trying to take the pot home or lines, but there's 1501 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,559 Speaker 2: only one hundred and thirty people left. Have to just 1502 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 2: move on. I'm set up well with a lot of 1503 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 2: good teams left. Sunday is the hardest day left of 1504 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 2: the year. Yeah, I don't know who to take. I'm 1505 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,000 Speaker 2: actually considering the Texans. So if you're just in a 1506 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 2: regular survival, I would take Dallas if you haven't even 1507 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:30,559 Speaker 2: following me. But I'm thinking I'm getting the advice about 1508 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,679 Speaker 2: the Ravens right now. But there's a lot that could 1509 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 2: change with injuries, and there's also a lot that could 1510 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,320 Speaker 2: change with quarterback injuries and COVID, So I don't know 1511 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 2: my second pick's going to be As of right now, 1512 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 2: it's either going to be the Texans or the Ravens. 1513 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,720 Speaker 2: Six million in line, I might be going with the Texans. 1514 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,919 Speaker 2: I did it with the Dolphins and Persette against the Texans. 1515 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 2: Tyrod hooked me up with some picks. Maybe Tyro I 1516 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 2: can took me some touchdowns this week. So yeah, I'll 1517 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,040 Speaker 2: let everyone know on Twitter, but Dallas would be my 1518 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:58,799 Speaker 2: number one IVI I pick. I'm going with them on Thursday, 1519 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,160 Speaker 2: and then it's either between the Raceagans and UH and 1520 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 2: the Texans less off to changes from an injury or 1521 01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:05,120 Speaker 2: COVID perspective. 1522 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm in a similar spot, and this 1523 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:12,880 Speaker 1: podcast obviously not no stakes similar, but uh, I mean 1524 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 1: I think I want to go Chicago. I wanted to 1525 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:16,960 Speaker 1: go Chicago with the more I think about it, I 1526 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 1: mean divisional game home you know, home Dog is Detroit games. 1527 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,000 Speaker 1: I usually don't. Yeah, it's usually I don't. But then 1528 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 1: I kind of have to go with the Texans. The Browns. 1529 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,240 Speaker 1: You can't go brown I don't think you can go 1530 01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:34,720 Speaker 1: Ravens at this point. You know, another divisional game just uncertainty. 1531 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 1: You know who practices all week for them? Oh, let's 1532 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 1: go Texans. 1533 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1534 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like we got we can root for 1535 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:47,000 Speaker 1: the same thing. God, yeah, I don't want any part 1536 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:47,479 Speaker 1: of the Bears. 1537 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 2: I might be a mess on Sunday, and then if 1538 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,960 Speaker 2: the Texans lose, I'll have to like root against the 1539 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,519 Speaker 2: Ravens in a way so I won't be regretting it. 1540 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, I mean, good luck, man, that's that's 1541 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 1: impress I mean even getting down to one thirty three 1542 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,720 Speaker 1: obviously impressive. And you're twelve and oh or eleven and 1543 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,880 Speaker 1: o on the on the show so far this year, 1544 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 1: so let's keep it going. 1545 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 2: Yep, all right, Happy Thanksgiving brother, and enjoy your holiday, 1546 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,479 Speaker 2: and it's uh looking forward to keeping this going till 1547 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 2: the end of the year. 1548 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:18,920 Speaker 1: There, Happy thank you for having to you and yours, 1549 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 1: and same thing goes for everyone out there. Thank you 1550 01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 1: guys again for listening, and enjoy the holidays. Be safe 1551 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 1: out there. 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