1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome into a money edition of Texans 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: All Access, a Memorial Day addition of Texans All Access, 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: where we remember, honor and give thanks to all of 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: those who have made the sacrifice for our great nation, 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: for the freedoms that we have that those in the 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: military have provided for all of us, the tip of 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: the cap, and a sincere thank you to all of 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: those that have served and those that served and unfortunately 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: perished fighting for this great nation. This show, as all 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: things should be, but this show in particular, is for you. 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter, fresh off four 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: hours earlier in the day with my man be Scott. 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: Brandon Scott and I had a great Southwest Texas Southwest 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Houston takeover edition of In the Loop. That was a 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: fun time. But it's all Texans now, baby, Although it 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: was pretty much all Texans today, well that really we did, 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: got to mix it up a little bit. That was fun. 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: Talk well Astros rockets. But we're talking Texans tonight, and 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from three great Texans, two former Texans 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: and one current text and that current Texan we're gonna 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: hear from just also happens to be from Houston. That's 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Obo Okaron Quo, who sat down with our good friend 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: Deep City. They chopped it up, got a little bit 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: of knowledge about the former LA Ram, former Oklahoma Sooner, 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: and former A League football star. Oh and we also 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: found out it's Obo or it's Obeazy Deepe take it away. 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: It's Deep Scent one on one presented by Xfinity joining 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: me today, Obo Okaron Quo, there you go, all right, 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: And it's Oboway short for so I can call you 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: Obo's welcome, whatever one you'd like. Oh, I like Obeazy. Yeah, 31 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: that's your that's your handle on Instagram and Twitter and everything. Right, 32 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: all right? So Obo is Okaron Quo is Nigerians. You're 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: from Nigeria? Are your parents are? Okay? Well, welcome to 34 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. We just signed you as a free 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: agent here in March. But you're not really new to 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: Houston because you grew up in a league. So what's 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: it like being back in htown after all these years? Oh? 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Miss a dream come true? You know, to be able 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: to go win a super Bowl and then come home 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: like that's like a storybook. It really is. I mean, 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: you were a part of the Rams championship run, you 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: played in all the playoff games. Was making the decision 43 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: to come to Houston? About the location? I mean, what 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: wanted that decision to come? Signed with the Texas just 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: love you some system and he runs here is just 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: very player friendly. It's very d line and past Russier friendly. 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: Then getting to come home. I couldn't. I couldn't pass 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: on those two things. Yeah, I mean, he says it's 49 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: a linebacker friendly defense. You're a linebacker. So what cite 50 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: you the most about playing in this defense? Just being 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: able just to just to go, you know, just to 52 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: react and use the athleticism and run. So although you 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: obviously you play football, you've got a lot of talents 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: as well. And we just wrapped up the twenty twenty 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: two NFL Draft in Vegas and you were a correspondent 56 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: for the NFL. You're out there with your camera. I 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: knew you like to take a lot of pictures. So 58 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: tell me how that all sort of came about you 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: getting to do that for the league. I think somebody 60 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: heard that I'd like to take pictures, so they hit 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: up the Rams, I guess the play personnel people, and 62 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: they were like, oh, he's not here anymore, but we 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: can shoot him the message, you know. So it was 64 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Jack Quaz McClendon from from the Rams. So he texted 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: me like, hey, I have an opportunity for you, you know, 66 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, let me hear it. And 67 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: then he was like, you'll be shooting the red carpet 68 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: for the draft and I'm like, okay, but how do 69 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: they know? How does the league know that your how 70 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: you been taking So during the Super Bowl, Um, I 71 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: wanted to do something really cool because you know, that's 72 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: like it could be a once in a lifetime opportunity. 73 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's not hopefully it won't be Okay. Well, so 74 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: Uninterrupted uh hit me up and wanted wanted me to 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: do like something well with my photography. But because I 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: guess they stumbled up across my page. I'm with Clutch Sports, 77 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: so you know, yeah, so when they I'm gonna cross 78 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: my page, they asked me if I wanted to do something, 79 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: you know with my camera for the Super Bowl. So 80 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: I just you know, slept on it for a couple 81 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: of days. I thought about it, and then I came 82 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: up with the plan to get a bunch of disposable cameras, 83 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: give them to everybody in the locker room, and just 84 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: logged the week through the disposures. So we even logged 85 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: the game, after the game, going to the game, the 86 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: week of practice on the field, out in the locker room, 87 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: and then even in the parade, and then we turned 88 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: in all the pictures and then um, we got to 89 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: as a team looked through all of them and it 90 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: was really amazing. Yeah, what was the best part about 91 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: covering the red carpet at the Draft? I mean, obviously 92 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: I would imagine the super was a little bit more 93 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: stressful because you gotta play a game, but now it's 94 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: like you could just focus on your craft and take pictures. 95 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: What was the most enjoyable moment of just covering the draft? 96 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: I think just seeing the young guys with their families, 97 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, just seeing them enjoy their day. You know, 98 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: it was a lot of just genuine happiness up there. 99 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: It was beautiful, all right. So how did you get 100 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: into photographer? You've been doing this for a long time. Yeah, 101 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: I've been doing it for a while. I think it 102 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: was always a hobby of my but um, a couple 103 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: of years ago I got it. I had like a 104 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: six week injury on my elbow. Okay, it was about 105 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: it was like my second year in the league, and 106 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: when I was down for the for that time, just 107 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: to just to stay up, keep my spirits up, I 108 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: sort of just got into it a little bit more 109 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 1: and then from there it just it just grew bigger 110 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: and bigger. So how much equipment do you have, Because 111 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: I I dabbled in photography like a long time ago. 112 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: It's not cheap, But how how many lenses? What sort 113 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: of aim are we talking about? I got a couple 114 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: of toys I got. I got a what's your camera? 115 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: First of all, Sony A seven R three okay? And 116 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: how many guy, that's so's it's not too pricey, but 117 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: it's a it's a medium like priced camera, okay. And 118 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: then how many how many lenses would you say you have? 119 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: Maybe five? Okay? I got um, I got some prime 120 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: lenses that's just like a just a you know, fifty 121 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: or thirty five. And then I got a lot of 122 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: zoom lenses, you know, just something like give me some 123 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: more depth and and such. Okay. So I saw some 124 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: of your church from the draft. How many lenses did 125 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: you have to take? How much equipment. How long were 126 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: you working? What did the days look like when you 127 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: were there? I worked for about three hours. I brought 128 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: one camera. I brought two cameras, a film camera and 129 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 1: a digital camera, and then two lenses for the digital. Okay, 130 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: so I switched between those, got some for portraits and 131 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: some for just why everybody was just being going. Was 132 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: there any pressure? Did you feel stressed doing that? Like 133 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: did you feel like, oh no, not at all a 134 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: high profile moment like you're trying to capture them all. 135 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: I was just having fun. Honestly, it was really cool, 136 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: you know. Um, it wasn't like so me being on 137 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: the on the red carpet and talking to them is 138 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: different than a regular photographer because they know I've been 139 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: the league for five years. That's true, so you know, 140 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: the way that they received me and talk to me 141 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: is a little differently than they would a regular photographer. 142 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: So we were as having fun, we were talking were 143 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: they were even asking me questions like like that only 144 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: like me and them could hear. It was cool? Okay? 145 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: Did it kind of bring you back to your first 146 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: year in the league and just yeah, just like all 147 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: those question marks, you know, like you know you're gonna 148 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: get drafted. You hope you're gonna get you have to minutes, 149 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: just like it's just a just a bunch of questions afterwards, 150 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: like you know, when do I have to leave? When 151 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: do I have to show up? When I get there? 152 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: Am I going to be in shape? But you know, 153 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: there's all these questions that you have, and then you know, 154 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: it was cool that I could just alleviate some of 155 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: that for them. All right, So I find it interesting 156 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: that you said you only took up photography when you're 157 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: in the league. So growing up I had read somewhere 158 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: that you only started playing football as a sophomore in 159 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: high school. Is that correct? So how did you get 160 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: into football? First of all? Um, so I probably somebody 161 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: saw you and was like this, Yeah I was. I 162 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: wasn't always this build, do you know? Okay, I had 163 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: like a growth spurt. I think that summer going to 164 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: sophomore sophomore year, were you athletic? Did you play other sports? Up? 165 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: And sad? You skateboarded like you weren't playing any team sports. 166 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: And then who saw you and said, you know what, 167 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: the skateboarder looks like he'd make a good football player. 168 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: It was two of my coaches. One of them he 169 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: was like my health teacher, and my coach he's Brian Randall. 170 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: He's a coach out here, your skateboard coach, health teacher, 171 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: he was a health teacher in the coach and then 172 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: um my other coach, coach Lenza. They were just like, hey, man, 173 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: like you're built to play football, And I was like, mmmm, 174 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't know because I hadn't really you know, played 175 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: from that point. I've watched it and my dad was 176 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: like a big fan, but I had never really just 177 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: been I got to just get physical with anybody, you know, 178 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: like ever. So then when I went out there, it 179 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: was fun. It sort of came natural, you know, And 180 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: I played a couple of games, and by the end 181 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: of the year, I had a couple of scholarships to 182 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: go play you know, like really like good schools, and 183 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: that was an opportunity of a lifetime. So yeah, so football, 184 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: like from that point on, like I knew like it 185 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: was gonna be what I need, you know, what I 186 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: what I did to propel my life for before you 187 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: became a football player. If you weren't going to do football, 188 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: what were you planning on doing? I don't want to 189 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: be a social worker. You did, okay, and what propelled 190 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: you into social work as just like giving back to 191 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: my community. Um where I feel like where I'm from, Um, 192 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: it's a little different. A lot of people don't know 193 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: what they want to do after high school. You know. 194 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I just want to be able to 195 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: be a voice and you know, just a guide for 196 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: like children my age who felt how I felt at 197 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: that time. All Right, so you're now you're back in Houston. 198 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: You grew up in a Leaf. What's it like being 199 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: back in Houston after all these years? Man, I'm feeling 200 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: the love. Man, I'm feeling the love in the city. 201 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: You know. It's just it's just great everywhere everywhere to go. 202 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's like I feel like, dude, like do 203 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: these people even know my name? They're calling me champ. 204 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: Did you go back to your old stomping grounds to 205 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: go back to a leaf or check out the high 206 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: school your neighborhood? Now, yeah, I planned on throwing a 207 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: camp soon. Okay, So when I threw that camp, I 208 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: was going to invite like everybody from like a Leaf 209 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: the Southwest, a Leaf area for a camp for the kids. 210 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: All Right, tell us about the camp, When is it, 211 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: where is it, and how do people sign up? So 212 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: no dates yet. We're still working out the logistics because 213 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: I want the D line there. I'm trying to get 214 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: my D line coach there. So we're all just trying 215 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: to find a date that works well for all of us. 216 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: But I'll let you know as soon as I know. 217 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: All Right, So coming out this summer sometime in Houston, 218 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna put on football camps with my kids. I'm 219 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: also going to have like a health day. I'm gonna 220 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: do that with Juice Land. Okay, Yeah, with Juice Land, 221 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to, you know, just promote health. And 222 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think health is like really important, and 223 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: I think that we shared like informed children about health 224 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: before healthy before they're adults. You know, I learned when 225 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: I was adult, but I wish, I wish as a 226 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: young child that somebody would have just showed me what 227 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: health you know, some healthier options. So I'm having a 228 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: health day with Juice Land. We're just gonna just you know, 229 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: just promote wellness. How healthy are you now as an athlete? 230 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: As a professional athlete. I mean I have my cheat days, 231 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: but for the most part, Yeah, for the most part. 232 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm fairly clean when am I eating? All right, So, 233 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: how about this offseason workout for I know you're sort 234 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: of in the middle of it now, but but what 235 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: about for you personally this offseason? What's it been like 236 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: for you? Just getting on your teammates. It's been fun 237 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: me and everybody. There's a lot of personalities in there. 238 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of talent in there. And then the draft. 239 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: We had a knocked the draft out of the park. 240 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm just ready to see it all 241 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: like come together and be cohesive, you know, really excited 242 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: about being here. I love the way that this team works. 243 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: You know, every day I feel like this team is 244 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: just getting a little closer and a little better. I'm 245 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: excited to see what happens is far all right, We're 246 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: excited to see you as well. And maybe we'll see 247 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: some more pictures from you here at like camp or 248 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: throughout the season. Yeah maybe right now right now? Worried 249 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: about winning the championship, all right? I like that. Well, 250 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: you've got experience there as well. So thanks so much 251 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: for joining us, Oboob for sure the tongue pleasure meeting 252 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: you and best elect the season. Thank you been celebrating 253 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: the city of Houston and the people from it all 254 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: day long. Did it with my man b Scott, Now 255 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: doing it with obo ocarron Quo. Now, another guy who 256 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: eventually made Houston his home was Steve McKinney. The Skinny 257 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: with Steve McKinney. That's next a little where are they now? 258 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: With Drew Doherty right here on Texans All Access All Access. 259 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to this Monday edition Texans All Access. I 260 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: feel like I've been talking all all day, and that's 261 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: pretty much because I have. So I'm handing this football 262 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: off and I'm John Harris football and a sideline reporter 263 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: to my good friend Drew Doherty, who is gonna share 264 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: the next few minutes with our good friend Steve McKinney. Now, 265 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: Steve McKinney was one of the first Texans I got 266 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: to know I moved back to Houston. We started our 267 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: radio station in two thousand and seven, and we obviously 268 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: weren't gonna have access to Andre Johnson, Matt Job, etc. 269 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: And so we went looking for people that were gonna 270 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: be great radio, regardless of a position they played where 271 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: they were from. Well, Steve McKinney just happened to be 272 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: a guy we all fell in love with at our 273 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: radio station, so I got a chance to know him, 274 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: loved him, still love him. He is fantastic. He is 275 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: a good ag and he spent some time with Drew Doherty, 276 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: who is a good Mustang and SMU Mustang. So SMU 277 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: and A and M getting together. No talk about a 278 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: trans A and M in this one. There's a lot 279 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: of talk about Steve McKinney in a little where are 280 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: they now? Drew take it away. Well, this is a 281 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: fun one because we've got an og literally figuratively, but 282 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: we got Steve McKinney, offensive guard, offensive lineman, original texts. 283 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean all these things that you can say, But Steve, 284 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: you played for the team two thousand and two to 285 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. You'd already been in the league 286 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: for four years prior with the Indianapolis Colts. And we're 287 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: gonna get into that. But first things first, how are 288 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: you doing and where are you these days? What's going on? Well? 289 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: I am I'm doing great. First of all, you know, 290 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: post COVID life is uh is much better. And yeah, 291 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, I've been been doing McDonald's now for about 292 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: twelve years since I got out of got out of football. 293 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: So that's pretty much all I do. Man, I do. 294 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: I do McDonald's and help my son train to be 295 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: where I'm at one day. And how's that going. It's 296 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: going pretty good. You know, he's only in eighth grade, 297 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: but uh, you know he has he has the desire 298 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: and the work ethics, so you know, the rest is 299 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: in God's hands. I guess. Yeah, that's good stuff. You're 300 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: born in Galveston, You went and played your high school 301 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: ball clear Lake. Where are you these days? Specifically where 302 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: are you living? Okay? Yeah, I live in Montgomery. Actually 303 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: moved out to Montgomery. You know, went to high school 304 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: in clear Lake Centerville prior to that. Actually small town, 305 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: how about that? And you know, when I was playing 306 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: with the Texans, we lived over in Friendswood, mostly because 307 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: it was an area I was familiar with, having you know, 308 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: grown up in clear Lake. And uh, yeah, we moved 309 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: out to Montgomery. Man, right after I got done playing, 310 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: I bought the bought the McDonald's down there in Madisonville 311 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: two ten, and uh couldn't couldn't be driving from Friendswood 312 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: to Madisonville every day, So we moved out to Montgomery, 313 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: which is only about an hour away, you know, that's 314 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: how that's how we ended up. There are planted roots 315 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: and it's been good. You know, it's a very it's 316 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: a nice community, you know, good people, so on the 317 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: edge of the piney woods. And I, uh, you know, 318 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: I went to school in Dallas for a bit and 319 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: lived in Dallas for a bit, so I guarantee I 320 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: stopped that that McDonald's and Madisonville time or two as clause. 321 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: I think I think you got one in Huntsville too, right, 322 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: and that one's not mine? No, okay, okay, sorry, one 323 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: of these days hopefully I'll get that one. But uh yeah, 324 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: we got we got the one in Madisonville, and I 325 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: got you know, a few and Montgomery area and kind 326 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: of all over Euston. At this point, we're pretty pretty 327 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: spread out. That's fantastic. How did you get into that, 328 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: because obviously you're in the NFL for a decade basically, 329 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: and how do you transition from playing football to to 330 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: be in a franchise? E Well, I learned literally in 331 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: my rookie year up in Indianapolis. Uh, that NFL stands 332 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: for not for long and that you better have a 333 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: second career planned out before before that day comes, and 334 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: so I started researching you know, businesses and and franchises 335 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: and things that I could get into from you know, 336 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: dry cleaners to hair salons to subways or whatever. And 337 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: McDonald's was always one of my first. But I looked 338 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: into them pretty quickly and realized that if you're not 339 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: one hundred percent involved in the day to day and 340 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: running the business yourself, that they're not gonna they're not 341 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: gonna let you get in. So I waited and the 342 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: day after I retired or was retired, you know, because 343 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: most of us don't retire, we just get retired. Yeah, 344 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: So that when that day came, that was the first 345 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: place I applied for and actually got rejected, and waited 346 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: a few months, and applied again, got rejected, waited a 347 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: few months, and applied again. After meeting with a gentleman 348 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: that I knew, um from A and LM that used 349 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: to own some McDonald's and so you know, he kind 350 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: of he kind of opened the door run blastly. He 351 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: opened the door for me to to get an interview, 352 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: and I flew. I flew out to Arizona, met with 353 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: the O West Division president, you know, me and my 354 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: wife Tiffany, and uh just really sold him on the 355 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: fact that hey, we're not I'm not looking to be 356 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: an investor. I'm not looking to you know, put my 357 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: money is someplace safe. You know, I want to run it. 358 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: I want to be involved. I want to do whatever 359 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: it takes to own and running McDonald's. And you know, 360 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: I was able to get into program, and it took 361 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: me about a year and a half. Drew. It's a 362 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: it's a brutal program, yeah, but they train you top 363 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: to bottom. Man. You learn how to do everything in 364 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: a restaurant, which is great because I didn't know how 365 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: to do any of it. I knew how to snap 366 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: a football and you know, block defensive linemen, but you know, 367 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: when it came to run in a restaurant operationally and 368 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: in the business side of it, you know, I was clueless. 369 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: So it was it was a great training program. I 370 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: learned a lot, very humbling. I'm not gonna lie, you know, 371 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: because you work in the restaurant. You know, you're putting 372 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: on a crew uniform, you're taking orders in the drive through, 373 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: you're making French fries and hamburgers and dealing with upset 374 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: customers and everything that goes into to working in fast food. 375 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: And I remember one time a guy came through. It 376 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: was right after I had just finished playing and I 377 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: was in the drive through over at the Fairmont McDonald's 378 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: right there, all forty five and but way eight and um. 379 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: He worked at Fox News actually, and was a guy 380 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: that you know, i'd been a cameraman and interviewed me 381 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: and stuff like that in the past. He looked at 382 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: me like, man, you know you've really fallen some hard 383 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: times though, right So I said, no, yeah, I'm in 384 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: the I'm in the training program. You know, I'm trying 385 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: to try to own one of these one day. So 386 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: but it was funny because I would get those looks 387 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: from customers from time to time, you know that really 388 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: followed the Texans and knew who I was, and they 389 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: look at me and double take, wait, what are you 390 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: doing here? It was It was very humbly at times, 391 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: but man, it was It's it's been worth it, you know, 392 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: it's paid off, a been a blessing to me and 393 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: my family. So we love McDonald's. That's great. I don't 394 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: know much about that that end of the business, but 395 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: I've heard stories like yours, like when you become a franchise, 396 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: especially with them, it's a pretty, like you said, grueling process. 397 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: Now I do know. I waited tables at the Mason 398 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: Jar in Houston for two summers, and back then, when 399 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: I was more of a jackass, I thought, this is 400 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: like overwhelming. So just like that small portion of the 401 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: food service industry I have a lot of respect for, 402 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: so I can't imagine having to run the entire thing. 403 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: And was there a was there a more you talk 404 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: about some of the folks senior in the drive through? 405 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: But was there was there another moment where you said 406 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: humbling that really were you were just like, what the 407 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: absolute hell am I doing this for? Like surely that 408 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: came up a time or two, right, Oh man, it did. Yeah, 409 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I mean when you're when you're 410 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: doing that for a year plus and you're not getting paid, right, 411 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: this is all for free and for you know training, 412 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: You're getting paid through the training. But there were plenty 413 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: of times, you know where I'm working a you know, 414 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: late night shift and you know it's ten to eleven 415 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: o'clock at night and I'm walking around the parking a lot, 416 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, picking up pieces of trash here and there, 417 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: and you know, getting home barely seeing my family and 418 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: stuff like that. And there was times where I was like, man, 419 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: is this is this really worth it? You know, this 420 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: is this is a lot you know here, There's probably 421 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: other things I could be doing. You know, I could 422 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: go get a job, work for a big company or something, 423 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: you know, work my way up the ladder, you know. 424 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: So there were there were moments where I had those thoughts, 425 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, but I just kept pressing through. My wife 426 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: just kept pushing me. And you know, when because everybody 427 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: has those weak moments everybody when things get tough, you know, 428 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 1: you you you question things. But I powered through it, 429 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: and you know, thank god I did, you know, because 430 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: there was there was a light at the end of 431 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: the tunnel. And there's times throughout that training where you 432 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: can't see that light. You have no idea how much 433 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: longer you have. There's no there's no hey, you know 434 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: step one, two three, and you're finished at this date. 435 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: There is not none of that. You know, you're kind 436 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: of at their mercy as you're going through this training. 437 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: So there was there was months where I was just 438 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: clueless as to win this whatever end and um, you know, 439 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: very challenged mentally and physically, but I persevered, you know, 440 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: and I think the NFL and football and all my 441 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: training really helped me with that, that mental toughness aspect 442 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: of it of just just grinding through it and just 443 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: embracing the grind and just pushing, pushing through the tough times. Yeah, 444 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: if you can make it through a training camp in 445 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: Houston or you know, summer summer drills at in College Station, 446 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: you can you can definitely make it through that. I'm sure. 447 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: Let's talk about your days as an Aggie. You know, 448 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm sort of around your age, graduated high school ninety six, 449 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: so I remember the Aggies were bullies, man in the 450 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: mid nineties, early nineties, late eighties, still at the end 451 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: of the Southwest Conference and you're kind of there as 452 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: they switch over into the Big Twelve. You were there 453 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: with RC Slocum, who, Holy Moly, that guy can coach. 454 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: And what was it like going to Texas A and 455 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: M when they were at that, you know, at the 456 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 1: peak of those powers, I guess you could say, now, Andrew. 457 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: For me, it was just kind of like a dream 458 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: come truer because I grew up from the age of 459 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: one through sixteen in Centerville, Texas, about an hour from 460 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: College Station. Ye, my grandfather went to A and M. 461 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: We were big aggies growing up. We'd go like games 462 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: every Saturday, you know, probably made it the most home 463 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: games growing up. So I just had a I bled 464 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: maroon bottom line, you know, I was a big A 465 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: and M fan from birth. So for me, I remember it. 466 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: It kind of the light switch kind of went on 467 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: in about seventh I think seventh grade. I remember because 468 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: up until that point, Drew I just wanted to be 469 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: in the band. I just wanted to play trombone or 470 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: tuba or something in the band, you know, because I 471 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: thought that was the coolest thing ever. I didn't really 472 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: think a kid out of Centerville, you know, could ever 473 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: actually step on the Kyle field in a uniform and 474 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: play football. So but I remember in seventh grade, I 475 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: was watching Anyone play Hawaii on their opening game, and 476 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: that's when it just really clicked in my head. I'm like, 477 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: you know what I want to I'm gonna play football 478 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: at AL and that from that day on, that became 479 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: my goal and I worked towards that and my junior year. 480 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: After my junior year, right before my senior year. It 481 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: was back in those days colleges couldn't call you. And 482 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: they called me on the day that they were allowed 483 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: to call me at midnight and called me, and they 484 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: didn't offer me. At that time, I was hoping they would, 485 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: but they didn't offer me. But the fact that they 486 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: had called me, they were my first call, you know, 487 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: made me feel good and felt like I had a chance. 488 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: And then I think it was, you know, probably a 489 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: week or two later, you know, some of these other 490 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: big schools that started offering scholarships. And then sure enough, 491 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: if here comes to the A and M offer, and uh, 492 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, I jumped right on it. And I'm not 493 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: gonna say that I was like any eighteen year old, 494 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: You're getting confused, right, So I committed to A and LM. 495 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: And you know, a couple of months later, you know, 496 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: Notre Dames pushing hard for me, and that this was 497 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: Notre Dame was a bunch of bullies too. You know, 498 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: they were ranked number one in the country all season. 499 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: That was here they lost to Boston College on that 500 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: last second field goal the rudy year. They had just 501 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: beaten Florida State number one of the week exactly. So 502 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I was. You know, Rudy had just come 503 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: out in the theater, you know, like you I went 504 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: up there on a visit and saw a touchdown Jesus 505 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: and met the actual Rudy, and I'm like, how can 506 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: I how can I not go to Notre Dame. You know, 507 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: that's just crazy, you know, And so I ended up 508 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: committing to Notre Dame after after growing up and ague 509 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: my entire life. You know, my parents were like, yeah, 510 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: they were trying to be supportive, but I think they 511 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: were kind of, you know, a little heartbroken inside. You know, 512 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: they didn't really share that with me. But luckily I'm 513 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: sitting there watching A and LM and Notre Dame played 514 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: in the cotton Ball day here. Hell of a game, 515 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: hell of a game. And I was committed to Notre 516 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: Dame during that game, by the way, but I was 517 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: rooting for A and LMA for some reason. And that's 518 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of what, you know, made me realize that, 519 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta go where my heart's at. You know, Yeah, 520 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: Notre Dame may be the cool, new shiny object that 521 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: you know, makes me look cool to everybody, but the 522 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: reality is is that A and M was where my 523 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: heart was, and so I realized that watching that football 524 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: game and A and M lost, and I still wanted 525 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: to go there. So I did end up committing A 526 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: and LM and and signing there, thank god. And it 527 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: was fun. Man. I had a great experience at A 528 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: and LM. It's a dream come true running out on 529 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: Kyle Field. Um. You know, even to this day, I 530 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: go back to games and just love the atmosphere, love 531 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: the love the community, love the love the university. So yeah, 532 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: fun place with you know, so many fun traditions. And 533 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: they got something building now too. With Jimbo Fisher did 534 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: that game, there was there was like a hook and 535 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: ladder to Leland McElroy that didn't almost what was is that? 536 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: How that ended? How that ended? It was? It was 537 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: set up beautifully and unfortunately the guy that caught the 538 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: ball that was supposed to throw the hook um hit 539 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: as he was throwing it, so he just throw it 540 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: off and he missed it. But if he had caught 541 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: it in stride, he'd have been gone. So that was 542 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: That was a pretty exciting game. Kids. If you don't 543 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: know who Leland McElroy is, think like Tyreek Hill or 544 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush, kind of like that. I mean, he was 545 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: that guy was electric. That guy was electric. Yeah, he 546 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 1: was so fast. I remember my I remember watching him 547 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: in the offseason. We'd run forties, right, and they'd have 548 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: these electronic timers or whatever, you know, electronic start, electronic finish. 549 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: You know that's going to make you slow when you 550 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: do that, and he was. I'd never seen anybody run 551 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: that fast. I think he ran like a four to 552 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: three one or something on that. I was just like, goodness, 553 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean you could hear it. It's like just yeah. 554 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: And he had the football moves to match it too. 555 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: He wasn't just a fast like he was a good 556 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: he was a good football player. He was quick, but yeah, 557 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: his straight line speed was just unbelievable. So as somebody 558 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: who grew up around these parts, you know, Centerville, clear Lake, 559 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and you're in the NFL and you're 560 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: still early in your NFL career, how much did you 561 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: notice when you saw a businessman from Houston named Bob McNair, 562 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 1: you know, acquired the rights and hey, Houston is going 563 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: to get a franchise. The Oilers left while you were 564 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: in college. But how much were you paying attention to 565 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: that and cognizant of that. I was probably paying attention 566 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: to it more than anybody really in the whole country, 567 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: because I knew the second they got I knew exactly 568 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: what bobbing there was. I knew the second he got 569 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: the franchise, and I knew the second they were going 570 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: to play in the year two thousand and two, and 571 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: just so happens, that was the same season I was 572 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: going to be an unrestricted free agent. And were you 573 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: lining that up in your mind in nineteen ninety nine 574 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: when it got yeah, yeah, I was like, Wow, I 575 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: was drafted in ninety eight, right. I knew that the 576 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: Colts that the most had four years of my rights 577 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: unless they put the franchise tag on me, which you know, 578 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: I didn't wouldn't expect them to do that to a 579 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: left guard at the time. But as soon as I 580 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: saw ninety nine there, you know, first year is gonna 581 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: be two thousand and two, I'm like, I'm going to 582 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: be an understricted free agent most likely, and you know so, 583 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: and that was always kind of in the back of 584 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: my mind. I'm like, unless Indianapolis, like really just you know, 585 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: backs up a Brinks truck, um, you know, that's gonna be. 586 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: My first priority is trying to get get to Houston. 587 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: So when I did become a fun restricted free agent, 588 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: I had some other offers, you know, I had some 589 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: other a few other teams that were that were on me, 590 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: but Houston was our first call. I told my agent, 591 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: I said, look, I said, just give me the best 592 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: deal you can get me in US and that's where 593 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: I want to be. You know, if they don't want me, 594 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: or you know, they're not willing to, you know, pay 595 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: close to what other people were playing, then we can talk. 596 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: But I said, anything close, anything even in the ballpark 597 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: of what anybody else is offering, Houston's where I want 598 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: to end up. So he knew that, and you know, 599 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: obviously the rest is history because it all worked out. 600 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: You know, this, this was this is where I want 601 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: to be. This is home, you know, win or lose. 602 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: You know, I knew it would be tough sledding in 603 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: the beginning, but at the end of the day, you know, 604 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade it for anything. You know, Euston Houston's 605 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: home and getting to play for your hometown team. There's 606 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: nothing like it. There really isn't. There's nothing like it. 607 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: What was it like, because the expansion you're a free agent, 608 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: so you were you were outside of that expansion draft. 609 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: A lot of those guys came in and they really 610 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: went defense heavy, and yeah, that was a good defense 611 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: those first few years you were with the Texans, really 612 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: really good defense, and they were really good veterans on 613 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: that team. What was that like, you know, being in 614 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: the locker room with all the with those vets, but 615 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: also having a lot of young guys and a lot 616 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: of guys who were sort of on the fringes of 617 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: of the NFL because of you know, you're an expansion team. 618 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: What was that like being in that soup of people 619 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: like gumboth people and and trying to figure out, Hey, 620 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: this is what we gotta do because you talk earlier 621 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: about you gotta practice hundred percent and you'll see the improvement. 622 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't imagine that everyone had that same mindset just 623 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: because they hadn't experienced that, like you what was that like, No, 624 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 1: you're right, Drew, I mean it was it was. It 625 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: was different because I went from being you know, when 626 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: you're you're in Indianapolis, you know, I'm a second, third, 627 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: fourth year player. Yeah, I guess you're a veteran, but 628 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: not really quite a you know, one of the team leaders. 629 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm on a team with you know, guys 630 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: that have been in the league eight, nine, ten, twelve 631 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: years all over the place, right and you go to 632 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: Houston and you look around the locker room and you're like, 633 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: holy crab. You know, I'm one of the oldest guys 634 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: in here. Steve, I know the feeling. It's tough being 635 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: an old guy. You're not old, though. Old is just 636 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: the state of mind, and you're not old. Neither are 637 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: my although I feel old a lot of the times, 638 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: and neither is our next guest. He is not old. 639 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: He is always fresh of mind, fresh in mind, body 640 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: and spirit. And that's Brian Peters. He also don't aware 641 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: are they now? With Drew Dorry. That's next the Texas 642 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: All Access Access Access we go on foul segment of 643 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: this Monday edition, Memorial Day edition of Texans All Access. 644 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris Football Analysts, and we're gonna 645 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: turn it over to one of our favorites, a guy 646 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: that was instrumental in Texas special teams for years, was 647 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: one of the argument one of the best special teams 648 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: players in Texas I've ever had, got to the Texas 649 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: AF they're playing. I'm thinking about eight thousand different professional 650 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: football leagues and was just a gem of a human being. 651 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: And on a day in which we celebrate those in 652 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: the military, I know the military struck very close to 653 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: Brian Peter's heart. And Brian Peters is who we're talking about. 654 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: It's time to go. Where are they now? With BP 655 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: fifty two with our good friend Drew Doherty Drew taken away. 656 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: There are many Houston Texans, but there aren't many like 657 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: this guy, Brian Peters, one of my favorite all time 658 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 1: players for my favorite football team of yours. So Brian 659 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: played linebacker here for about four five years. And first 660 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: things first, what are you doing now? Where are you? 661 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: What's up? I'm in the exotic beaches of Columbus, Ohio, 662 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: But I'm doing a little bit of everything. I'm left 663 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: in living and learning. But I'm a performance consultant now. 664 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: I consult on breathwork and mental skills, a little bit 665 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: of heat and cold exposure for pro athletes college athletes 666 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: in one of one kind of thing, just by a 667 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: select basis. But it's been super fun to dive into 668 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: that and learn like I was obviously into those kind 669 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: of things when I was playing, and then I was 670 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: able to translate it into the business world. And then 671 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: everything keeps me active, learning and lifting. I competed in 672 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: my first powerlifting meat two weeks ago, do some jiu jitsu. 673 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: I stay competitive where I can fit it in, and 674 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: then yeah, then outside of that, I just I do 675 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything to stay busy. I love it. 676 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: There's there's a lot to cover right there. But how 677 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: the event, God, the competition that you just took part in, 678 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: go for you good. The powerlifting is fun. I fell 679 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: into Like transitioning from football, I needed some structure, and 680 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: I fell into this powerlifting group here in Columbus out 681 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: at old School Gym where we train at four in 682 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: the morning. So that structure was medicine for me. Was 683 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: able to get me competitive, competing with myself under heavy 684 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: weight all the time, and then it translated. I ended 685 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: up a deadlifted six h six, squatted five sixty two, 686 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: and my bench I got red lighted a couple of 687 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: times on but it was wait, wait, wait, what is 688 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: red lighting? What's that all about? So like the basis 689 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: the basis of powerlifting, like the competitions is it's all 690 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: formed base Obviously, it's like depth, I mean a listening 691 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: to intention. So you like got to like stabilize to 692 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: wait before you can squat, and the same thing when 693 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: you complete the squat bench you gotta stabilize it. And 694 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: then it's the bench press and power lifting you basically 695 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: have to pause for an extent. It's almost two seconds, 696 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: so you have to be able to control in the weight. 697 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: But so I actually got red lighted because you like, 698 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: I was wearing wrist wraps and I there's like a 699 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: stretchy elastic thing where you use it. You can't use it, 700 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: but most of the guys I trained with do it 701 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: during training, so I didn't know any better. So it 702 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: was a learning experience. But I wrapped my thumb and 703 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: didn't give me any competitive advantage. But they red lighted 704 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: me on my best lift of the day, So my 705 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: bench what was like under par for what I wanted. 706 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: But well, why didn't they just say before you were 707 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: getting on there, like hey, you can't use that, Like 708 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: what how did that come up? It was just it 709 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: was one pretty tedious judge. The other judges are like 710 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: I would have never I would have gave you one 711 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: learning done something. But some this guy read lighted me. 712 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: Some people like are the powerlifting group kind of has 713 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: a little reputation too, so they look for any excuse 714 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: to come after the boys. Four am. Why four am? 715 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: It's more of a separator for his group of people's 716 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: names Corey Gregory who owns and runs the gym. See 717 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: who's committed. Basically Yeah, basically like if you're committed, like 718 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be out boozing or staying up late 719 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: doing things like it's they used to do it at 720 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: like seven am, six am, five am, and then like 721 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: once four am struck like only the dog showed up 722 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: and it turned into a really cool, uh, really cool 723 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: thing they had, Like they're a bunch of the smaller powerlifters. 724 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: They hit like the um can't. It's like one sixty 725 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: one to one ninety eight weight classes and they have 726 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: a couple of world records in the group and the 727 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: RPS training method and then uh yeah, it's it's it's 728 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: a really competitive group. Like pound for pound, these boys 729 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: are strong. Now I've seen powerlifters and there's there's some 730 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: absolute monsters. You're a you're a big guy, I think 731 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: somebody were describing, Hey, he's a big guy, but are 732 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: you one of the bigger ones? Where you one of 733 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: the smaller Where do you? Where are you fall in 734 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: that that structure of that group. I'm still pretty I'm 735 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: pretty much of my playing right around two thirty five. 736 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: But like I'm a I'm definitely like a longer lever guy, 737 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: not really built for powering. Obviously you've you've seen something 738 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: like the big bellies, big bodies, big necks that fall 739 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: on powerlifting. Um, excuse me, but uh yeah, like I'm 740 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: still like one of the heavier weight class guys with us, 741 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: I'm between like the two twenty two forty two weight 742 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: classes kind of deal. Um, but yeah, it's just uh, 743 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: it's more like I could I could care less about 744 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: um my look in the powerlifting world, because like when 745 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, like when you get 746 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: under a heavy bar or any like risk you want 747 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: to take in your life, Like it's like you have 748 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: that self talk where it's like I'm gonna get buried, 749 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna grow. It's like a coin flip of like 750 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: success and failure, and that motivated me massively and like 751 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: just getting a dose of that every morning um. Was 752 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 1: the medicinal formula reminded me of football. It's like doing 753 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: one on ones and things like that, like like are 754 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: you up to the stuff, like are you up to 755 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: the opportunity? Are you up to the challenge? And uh yeah. 756 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: Then I just kept doing it. I've been doing it 757 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: with them a little over a year, a year and 758 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: a half. Now I'm gonna get into a bunch of 759 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: crazier stuff here coming up. Not powerlifting, UM, so all 760 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: phase a little away from that. Yeah, well, so I'm 761 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: doing I'm doing a fifty I'm doing a fifty mile 762 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: ruckum on Memorial Day ruck where you have the backpack 763 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: like a like a soldier basically yeah, yeah yeah. And 764 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: then so we're doing fifty miles around washing DC. We're 765 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: starting at the Veterans Hospital and then ending in Arancing 766 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: that national cemetery supporting the group. The fifty for the 767 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: Fallen is the charity, but it's put on by the 768 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: Special Forces Trust. So, um, some of my coaching has 769 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: stemmed into that world. And the optimal performance and controlling 770 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: your state is military, and they do it at a 771 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: much higher stake than athletes do. So I've been gravitating 772 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: towards them and their stories and their recovery from serving 773 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: and things like that. So it's been, uh, just kind 774 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: of where my life's gone. That's awesome, man, you know. 775 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: And when you were with the Texans, you were kind 776 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: of starting to get into the cold tub plunging and 777 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't that's probably the wrong word for it, but 778 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: that's that stuff. You're you You mentioned your breathing mechanics 779 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: and all that that's incredibly important, especially for snipers. You 780 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: brought up special special forces and whatnot, but you're you're 781 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 1: applying that to everyone, you know, because I don't think 782 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: the general public understands and appreciates the importance of proper 783 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: breathing and breathing exercises right, No, not even close. And 784 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: it's just something that's it's kind of just like a 785 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: missing pillar and human performance, not even like athletic performance, 786 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: um a lot of Like so my doctor sends me 787 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: some cases that like people can't solve with medicine or 788 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: things like that, and breathing ends up helping everybody. It's 789 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: all just like the base root of human existence and 790 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: you can prioritize it how you want, but like every 791 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: other resource, our body needs water food, other things that 792 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: you can survive days without water, weeks without food, all 793 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: those kind of things, but like three minutes without oxygen, 794 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: like it's important. And then like every breath helps or 795 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: hurts you? What body part are you breathing in and 796 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: out of? Is the action getting absorbed? Are you overbreathing? 797 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 1: So if you're overbreathing, your veins and arteries are getting smaller, 798 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: so you're getting worse auction nation like all these compounding things. 799 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: Are you sleep sleeping with your mouth open, so does 800 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: your tongue fall back? And then are you in a 801 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: sympathetic state when you're sleeping so you wake up to 802 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: use the bathroom or wake up with the dry mouth 803 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: and all these things they deteriorate your sleep. And if 804 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: you can't sleep right, you're not going to perform right mentally, physically, 805 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: anything emotionally. Like, so my whole thing is getting people 806 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: out of that sympathetic state, that anxious state that we 807 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: live in because we're overstimulated or stressed out or anxious 808 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: or anything like that. And just kind of how the 809 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: whole mind breathing evolved into every buddy gen pop and 810 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: it like what we teach and what I coach and 811 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: things like that are just like base, very simple things 812 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: that have simple compound effect, Like yeah, we can improve 813 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: FEO two max and push off the delay set of 814 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: lactic acid and things like that for athletes and help 815 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: them recover in between plays or shifts on the ice 816 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: or anything like that. But like every human should adopt 817 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: breathwork or at least an awareness of their understanding because now, 818 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: like you can feel when you're out of control, and 819 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: when like your physiology is out of control, your mind regresses, 820 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: you actually lose blood in the brief prefrontal cortex. It's like, 821 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 1: I want to maintain my wits and my problem solving, 822 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: my communication skills as much as possible, but I really 823 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: just want control, So like if I can, any human 824 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: wants control. We have a negativity bias in our psychology, 825 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: so like, what can I do? And like the simplest thing, 826 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: the lowest hanging fruit, is the breathwork stuff. And it's 827 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: simply you can calm yourself down and rush our traffic 828 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: or before you public speak or anything. It's just it's 829 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: simple and significant. When did you start taking an interest 830 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: in that, because I know it for sure it was 831 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: when you were with the Texans. But how long before 832 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: that did this does all get going for you? Now? 833 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: It was around twenty fifteen when it like it was 834 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 1: over my eyes. I solved my sleep problems by taping 835 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: my mouth in twenty sixteen when I was with the Texans, 836 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: like we had we had the whoops and we had 837 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: the garden. They gave us the garments I think in 838 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: sixteen and I was trying to be a pro in 839 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,240 Speaker 1: sleep nine hours and it was saying I got five 840 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: hours of sleep six hours of sleep. So I was 841 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 1: getting frustrated, where like some of the wearables can cause 842 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: stress because you do have a metric. But um, so 843 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: I started taking my mouth shut and that like my 844 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: sleep problems on the way, And the research behind that 845 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: now is dynamite like people that can adopt nasal breathing, 846 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: which is the forest mouth close, but mouth closed gives 847 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: the tongue and those kind of things. But seventy percent 848 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: of sleep bapnee and wake ups go down if you 849 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: can learn to take your mouth like simple things. What 850 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: do you take you just like regular tape or what 851 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: do you do? Yeah, I mean like you'd be surprised. 852 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: So if you like Amazon mouth tape for sleep, it'll 853 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: blow your mind how many products there are. But I 854 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: use basic three M tape and just go across my list. 855 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: But some people think that's too rough. But yeah, but 856 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: things like that. And then and then I started holding 857 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: my breath in the sensory deprivation chamber that the Texans 858 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: were sponsoring at the time. And I noticed that my like, 859 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: because we came into a scenario when Luke Richardson took 860 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: over as a strength coach and we weren't running for 861 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: the first month, so we were up our functional movement 862 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: like our mobility, core strength, those things like that, and 863 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: I got really into breathing that I was pulling my 864 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: breath like over three minutes at that point because I 865 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: was doing free diving protocols and whim Hoff and things 866 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: like that. Just I was just curious. I had no 867 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: structure to it or didn't understand the tool. But when 868 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: we did come back to running, like I was less 869 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: winned than everybody else, I was running better as far 870 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: as conditioning goes, I was like, all right, there's something here. 871 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: And then I had a buddy in Minnesota that was 872 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: using breath work for mental skills at the time for 873 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: baseball players and hockey players, and we kind of ended 874 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: up making a company around it that I started while 875 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: I was playing, and then it's grown sense, but yeah, 876 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: it's just that's how it grew. But so I was 877 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: like the guinea pig like performance enhancing side of things, 878 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 1: and he was the mental skills and then we kind 879 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: of merged both worlds and created this company in the 880 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: Mind Strung Project. That man, Brian Peters is one of 881 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: the more interesting guys I have ever met in this 882 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: business and may meet in life. And that's no exaggeration. 883 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: He is a unique, intelligent, fun individual to be around. 884 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: So best of luck to him. Big thanks to him, 885 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: big thanks to Drew, to Steve McKinney, to Oboe Karanquo, 886 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 1: my good friend Deep Sinu and all of you for listening. 887 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We'll talk to you tomorrow and 888 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: as always, go Texans, Texans,