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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong

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Speaker 2: Marcus is just sleep.

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Speaker 3: Biden may be keeping a strong face. The headline from

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Speaker 3: Axios Harris stiff arms Biden in the final stretch. Days

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Speaker 3: he's kept open to hit the trail have come and gone,

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Speaker 3: the campaign reportedly saying we'll get back to you.

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Speaker 1: I've done a lot of sorts. If we talk all

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Speaker 1: the time, I'm they're asking me where they think I

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Speaker 1: should be to help them.

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Speaker 3: Most Evidently those calls aren't coming from Harris. The New

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Speaker 3: York Times reports she is gingerly peppered people who are

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Speaker 3: close to mister Biden. How do you think he's doing?

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Speaker 1: She will ask.

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Speaker 3: Biden's allies say he's concerned the campaign is underestimating his

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Speaker 3: appeace among working class voters in the rust Bell.

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Speaker 1: That's a non story in my opinion. It's just, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's an old man whose feelings might be hurt. That

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Speaker 1: he no longer is relevant to the question. But George W.

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Speaker 1: Bush didn't campaign with McCain back in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: eight because he wasn't popular at the time, and he said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. I realized I'd be more of a drag

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Speaker 1: than a help. Maybe Biden's hurt by this, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but Biden would be a drag.

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Speaker 4: Characterized it quite accurately as a sad old man who

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Speaker 4: can't accept that he's now worse than irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: Which has got to be tough when you've been relevant

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Speaker 1: for fifty some years. But you know it happens to

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Speaker 1: all of us. Trump is over an hour into a

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Speaker 1: press conference. Over an hour. Can you imagine Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: standing there with major press taking questions for over an hour? No,

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Speaker 1: neither can I. It'd be the end of her campaign

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Speaker 1: probably if she right. Yeah, so, uh. Trump doesn't get

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Speaker 1: enough credit for that. He takes on adversarial press more

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Speaker 1: than anybody I can remember in modern presidential history, and

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Speaker 4: Part of the reason is because virtually all of the

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Speaker 4: press is adversarial. I saw it actually claimed the other

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Speaker 4: day by CNN or somebody. The Trump has done a

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Speaker 4: number of interviews almost entirely with friendly outlets, which is

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Speaker 4: just given the context of Kamala that is just shame

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Speaker 4: shamelessness is kind.

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Speaker 1: Of their their way of doing business. So here's an

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Speaker 1: interesting thing I saw develop yesterday. And Katie, you can

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Speaker 1: weigh on this as the only woman or I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: a chest feeding person, vagina owning person. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to call you. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get on the wrong side of history.

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Speaker 4: That wasmit worthy. Bonus hole, that's right. I forgot that

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Speaker 4: was the actual term.

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Speaker 1: Ei the woke, that's right. Oh, I forgot for a

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Speaker 1: cup of coffee. They seriously were saying that this emerged yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I heard it a bunch of times, the hesitant Harris

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Speaker 1: voter around abortion. So there's the hesidant Trump voter, which

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Speaker 1: seems to be true several cycles in a roll where

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Speaker 1: Trump does better than the polling, with the idea being

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Speaker 1: their Trump voters are afraid to say it to pollsters

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Speaker 1: or something. I don't know. I've never quite understood. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me that why you'd be afraid

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Speaker 1: to say anything to a polster. But anyway, he has

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Speaker 1: performed better than the polls. There's belief that there's a

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Speaker 1: hesitant Harris voter. Women in specific. They now have ads

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Speaker 1: mentioning this. It's getting mentioned in all kinds of surrogate speeches. Women,

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Speaker 1: Michelle Obama. We should have the clip of this Obama

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Speaker 1: saying this the other night. Women, we know your husbands

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Speaker 1: might get really angry if you go and vote for Harris,

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Speaker 1: but remember you need to stand up for your you know,

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Speaker 1: protecting your body and women's rights and your daughter's rights

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Speaker 1: and all this different sort of crap. It's basically saying,

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Speaker 1: afraid of their husbands that they're claiming they'll vote for Trump,

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Speaker 1: but in secret they're Harris voters. But I guess they

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Speaker 1: feel like their husband's gonna beat them.

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Speaker 4: Up or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't even need to stand it.

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Speaker 4: We need to get the Michelle Obama clip. But what

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Speaker 4: she said was, your husband isn't going to be in

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Speaker 4: the booths with you, right, boyfriend won't be in the

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Speaker 4: booth with you. You can tell them you voted for Trump,

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Speaker 4: but you should vote for Harris to protect yourself.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: She said this Friday night. And now I've seen a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of different Sarah Goods and Kamala herself and

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Speaker 1: all kinds of pundits saying Yeah, there are a bunch

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Speaker 1: allowed to, they would have vote for Harris, but they're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to in their household. What are you trying

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Speaker 1: to say that there are thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds

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Speaker 1: households that are so oppressive. I mean, I have never

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Speaker 1: where you would be scared to say your opinion out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a specific poke at the Trump voter,

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Speaker 2: not just their their relationships, but that you know, these

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Speaker 2: women are married to these Trumpers, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, they've been trying to paint men that are

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Speaker 2: for Trump like monsters this whole time.

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Speaker 1: True, That's very, very true. It might be a they

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Speaker 1: might actually have this view because they have such a distorted,

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Speaker 1: hateful view of anybody who would vote for Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: which has more to do with inflation and the variety

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Speaker 1: of other immigration than it does any of the stuff

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Speaker 1: you think racism and misogyny. But so their evil view

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Speaker 1: of Trump voters as yeah, women just go along with

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Speaker 1: it because they they live in a Trump household, where

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Speaker 1: you have to do with the been once. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever know anybody within one hundred miles of that portrayal?

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Speaker 2: Have you guys seen one of these ads that they're

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Speaker 2: talking about.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: As Yeah, I just I just saw one on YouTube

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Speaker 1: We'll play it at this hour. It's it's really visual.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get the last clip, but it's it's it's

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Speaker 2: definitely showing like the woman would be in some deep

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you that it's a fairly repugnant idea,

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Speaker 4: but I don't I'm not sure I can go as

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Speaker 4: far as you and saying there's nothing there. I think,

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Speaker 4: given the closeness of the Swing States, if you could

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Speaker 4: reach a few suburban women and convince them, hey, say

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Speaker 4: you voted for Trump, just vote for hers. It's it's

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Speaker 4: it's perverse and sick, but I don't think it's totally crazy.

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Speaker 1: But out of fear, like they're physically afraid of their husbands,

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Speaker 4: Just don't want to get to hear the guff they

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Speaker 4: don't want to hear it. Strategically speaking, it's not insane.

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Speaker 1: I think they believe it. I think they think that

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Speaker 1: Trump households are like that Handsmaid's tailed, all that crap

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm, craziness. You're just looking for a dozen votes

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Speaker 4: wherever you can get them. At this point, it's scaring

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Speaker 4: people into voting, and you know, well, I think powering

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Speaker 4: them to defy their oppressive husbands.

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Speaker 1: I guess I would say. I think it's another example

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Speaker 1: of you're doing more harm than good. You're making me

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Speaker 1: think and a lot of people who could I would

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Speaker 1: never vote for Kamala Harris, but people that can't quite

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Speaker 1: handle Trump, who would think? A few people and know

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm like as a Trump voter. My wife

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the right juice what she wants to screw you? Yes,

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Speaker 1: a pattern of never ending condescension, Yes, never ending condescension.

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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty show. It used to be one

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Speaker 1: So ah, what a heck of a croosing argument. You

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Speaker 1: women who are so scared of your husband's vote. This way.

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Speaker 4: The drumbeat of that idiot comedian's idiot joke is the

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Speaker 4: most important issue in America.

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Speaker 1: taking a look at Playbook DC from Politico, which is

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Speaker 1: got to check it if you're a Politico thing, And

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Speaker 1: virtually the entire thing is about that stupid joke or

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Speaker 1: too by that ill advised comedian who took the stage

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Speaker 1: an hour and a quarter before Trump. That's that's crazy

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Speaker 1: ore exit polls. Do people believe in exit polls? I

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Speaker 1: I would love to know if it goes Trump way,

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Speaker 1: either direction it goes, I would like to know what

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Speaker 1: actually what stuff actually mattered and what didn't. I find

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Speaker 1: it very hard to believe that this comedian from Sunday

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Speaker 4: Note from Bob that I thought was pretty good. You

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Speaker 4: act as though the comment about Puerto Rico was the

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Speaker 4: catalyst of something in an outrage that wouldn't have happened

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Speaker 4: what they chose. But it's unquestionable, Bob, that we're just

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Speaker 4: reporting on what the lefties are trying to get going.

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Speaker 4: But he does point out that, you know, if you

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Speaker 1: It was long before Trump took the stage. It was

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Speaker 4: Uh, the media is all in for Harris. They'll spend

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Speaker 4: that the people from Puerto Rico agree they have a

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Speaker 4: massive garbage problem, as I was describing the other day.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess Trump was asked about the

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Speaker 1: rally during his press conference today. If he said anything interesting,

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Speaker 1: we will we'll pass that along to you. So Joe

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Speaker 1: Rogan apparently on his podcast today talked about why Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 1: why that interview fell apart. He was going to interview

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Speaker 1: the talk was she was going to do Joe Rogan.

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Speaker 1: she wanted to limit to an hour, and he said.

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Speaker 4: and she would laime an hour, but then she'd show

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Speaker 4: up twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Late, right like she did with Barbara. Ask Brett Berringer,

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Speaker 1: she wouldn't travel to Austin to be on the show. Nope,

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Speaker 4: Well, then she wanted it to not happen, and right,

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Speaker 4: that's what. Get an hour and you got to bring

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Speaker 4: your crew with you? Yeah, no's that's a poison pill.

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Speaker 4: I think that the hour thing, I think could have

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Speaker 4: just been a we can't have her out there for more.

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Speaker 4: For that long, we're doomed, but you have to come

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Speaker 4: to us. Sounds like a poison pill, Like he won't

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Speaker 1: I would agree.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to do Rogan as Rogan does all his guests

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that would have been a terrible idea with a

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Speaker 1: Well, how many of the journalists who would ever write

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get it. Happens over and over and

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Speaker 4: That for just saying we don't endorse candidates anymore. We

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Speaker 4: A note from our owner, and it says underneath Jeff

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to we need to be leaders. Maybe

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm interested in becoming a Wall Post subscriber already

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Speaker 1: To the specific about the non endorsement, here, writes, presidential

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Speaker 4: The non endorsement was an outrageous abdication of responsibility and

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Speaker 4: a form of craset consent to a fascist whims that's

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Speaker 4: so crazy, I'm sure, well right, yeah, I'm sure Jeff

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Speaker 4: Bezos would say, y'all and that Opinion have been in charge.

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Speaker 4: You lost seventy seven million dollars last year, seventy seven

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Speaker 4: million dollars. So tell me again why I ought to

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Speaker 4: defer to your opinions.

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Speaker 1: Why well right, and his thing about I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be you know, overtaken and become irrelevant to podcasts

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Speaker 1: and other social media barbs. Yeah, that's exactly the case.

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Speaker 1: If nobody cares what your paper thinks, you're not actu

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Speaker 1: doing anything, you weird woke reporters. So what you What

445
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Speaker 1: apparently they'd be happy with is having a very small

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Speaker 1: number of people who agree with everything they say, and

447
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Speaker 1: then they go to cocktail parties and out to eat

448
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Speaker 1: and congratulate themselves. They'd be perfectly happy with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: absolutely true. Let's see, I gotta scroll down. Who's this

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Speaker 1: darcy person.

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Speaker 4: There's a bunch of you know, media insider heavyweight to

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Speaker 4: do his name. I don't know, but I love this.

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Speaker 4: This is the defense, and the prosecution will rest after

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Speaker 4: the defense, which is doing a better job than I could,

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Speaker 4: she said. On one side is an Adolph Hitler praising

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Speaker 4: autocratic wannabee who is vowed to seek retribution against his

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Speaker 4: perceived enemies should he find himself in the back in

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Speaker 4: the oval office. On the other side is a relatively

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Speaker 4: run of the mill democratic politician who respects the rule

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Speaker 4: of law in American Democratic order, right, that is their

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Speaker 4: neutraless of the race.

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Speaker 1: I reach my case, your nuts if you actually believe that. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a problem the first year you don't endorse,

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Speaker 1: because it's pretty easy. I don't. I don't think this

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Speaker 1: is what he's doing at all. But it's pretty easy

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Speaker 1: to the first year the newspapers don't endorse, to think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're for the other side. You just don't want to

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Speaker 1: say it out loud. But after a couple of years

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Speaker 1: it'll become more clear. No, our policy is just we

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Speaker 1: don't endorse, because that would be dumb. Our job is

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Speaker 1: to report the news. If we endorse, by definition, we

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Speaker 1: are more interested in one side the other than the other.

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Speaker 1: How obvious is that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Bezos himself for expressed regret that they didn't do it sooner,

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Speaker 4: not only because it's a good idea, but this close

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Speaker 4: to the election it feels different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, when I when I heard the La Times

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Speaker 1: didn't endorse Harris, my first thought was, Wow, they actually

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Speaker 1: prefer Trump, fairly or unfairly. I think it's important that

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Speaker 1: the two richest people in the world. More importantly, they're

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Speaker 1: both Americans. The two richest people in the United States,

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos seem to be hell bent

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Speaker 1: on more free speech and trying to play it down

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Speaker 1: the middle. And the people on the left think Elon's

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Speaker 1: full of crap, and the people on the right are

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Speaker 1: going to think Bezos is full of crap. But I

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Speaker 1: think they're both closer to that than not of what

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Speaker 1: they want to accomplish.

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Speaker 4: People were putting out that both were men of the

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Speaker 4: center left, only you know, two years ago.

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Speaker 1: Right, they both recognize that the country's doomed. If we

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Speaker 1: don't have some shared news sources, if we all just

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Speaker 1: go to our own podcasts, radio shows, you know, social

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Speaker 1: media followings and stuff like that, we're doomed. I run

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Speaker 1: into people every single day left or right, who say, hey,

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Speaker 1: did you hear about the whatever? And I haven't because

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Speaker 1: they're following some crazy website reporting something that's not true

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Speaker 1: that I haven't even heard of in the many hours

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Speaker 1: of media that I take in every day.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, back at the wah Poe, let us know that

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Speaker 4: democracy dies in darkness. Karen Attiya, who's a Post columnist, said, quote,

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Speaker 4: keeping in mind that the WAPO endorsed the Democrat every

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Speaker 4: single time. Of course, it is since they started endorsing

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Speaker 4: presidential candidates in nineteen seventy six, every single damn time.

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Speaker 4: As Bezos pointed out, nobody cares anyway. She said, today

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Speaker 4: has been an absolute stab in the back. What an

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Speaker 4: insult to those of us who have literally put our

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Speaker 4: careers and lives on the line to call out threats

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Speaker 4: to human rights and democracy.

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Speaker 1: You put your life on the line by writing what

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Speaker 1: everybody in your newsroom and everybody who reads your paper

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Speaker 1: agrees with. Yes, I'm you're.

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Speaker 4: Taking the courageous stand of agreeing with everybody around you.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Wow. And then you go places I'm sure where

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Speaker 1: everybody pat you on the back and agrees with you. Also,

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Speaker 1: how brave of you?

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Speaker 4: And if you don't have the ballstone and newspaper, or

518
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Speaker 4: don't Apparently having the balls to own a newspaper includes

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Speaker 4: putting up with the suicidal policies of your employees to

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Speaker 4: the tune of nearly eighty million dollars in red ink

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Speaker 4: per year. I don't quite see your point, you whining communists.

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Speaker 1: So what is the story? So Bezos owns the paper?

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Speaker 1: So who are the guys he hired from Britain that

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Speaker 1: came in. They're the Rubbisher, the publisher. Anyway, it's a

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Speaker 1: ceo anyway. I remember when the CEOs came in and

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Speaker 1: said that. In the newsroom was complaining and they said, look,

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Speaker 1: nobody's reading your stuff. To me. That was the boo

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Speaker 1: yah kill shot boom goes to dynamite. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing to say beyond that. If you keep going the

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Speaker 1: direction you're going, you're completely irrelevant. What's the point.

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Speaker 4: And that's what's so interesting about the newspaper business. If

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Speaker 4: this was a record company, there's no way that the

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Speaker 4: owner would allow the producers or whatever to continue putting

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Speaker 4: out records nobody wants to listen to.

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Speaker 1: Or we think polka rap is the most important music.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's buying it, nobody's listening to it.

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Speaker 4: If it John Deere, all the shop foremen were insisting

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Speaker 4: on building like bicycle tractors that you have to pedal,

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Speaker 4: and the firm that keeps falling off of them, and

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Speaker 4: nobody freaking wants them, and huge majorities of Americans say

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Speaker 4: that's crap, that's worse than Congress.

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Speaker 1: But John Deere's owners would say, well, what can we do?

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Speaker 4: Our shop foremen will want to build the bicycle tractors.

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Speaker 1: That one example where this could possibly exist because the

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Speaker 1: employees are saying, you don't have the balls to run

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Speaker 1: a tractor company. You shouldn't be doing it. Dude. You

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Speaker 1: didn't get people something they don't want.

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Speaker 4: This is my truth here at ja Lied. We believe

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Speaker 4: in making razors that don't cut whiskers. All of us

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Speaker 4: on the shop floor agree, and the owners have to say, well, okay,

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Speaker 4: I guess we'll.

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Speaker 1: Keep bleeding money.

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Speaker 4: Seriously, sometimes I slapped my forehead. I think what colors

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Speaker 4: does this kai in your world? What does reality look

555
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Speaker 4: like in your world? So it could end up being

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Speaker 4: a big deal in a turning point. I hope it

557
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Speaker 4: is that in a matter of what two years, Elon

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Speaker 4: bought Twitter and Bezos decided that at the Wappo they

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Speaker 4: need to fix everything.

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Speaker 1: I hope. I hope it matters. We will finish strong next.

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Speaker 1: So I made steak and corn last night for me

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Speaker 1: and Henry, kind of a you know, go to sad

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Speaker 1: single dad sort of meal. Steaks on the grill, corn

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Speaker 1: on the cob on the grill, and some bread. That's

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Speaker 1: so fantastic. Yeah, it is fantastic, except if you can

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Speaker 1: only make three things. It gets a little repetitious. But

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Speaker 1: so we bought. We didn't have the corn holders, so

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Speaker 1: we bought the cow. That's right, it's cone. We bought

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Speaker 1: the corn holders. You know, the little things that are

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Speaker 1: shaped like a corn. Huh, how clever is that? And

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Speaker 1: they have the little metal poky things in there and

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Speaker 1: you jam them in the edge of the corn.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I was having trouble getting it in the narrow end

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Speaker 1: of the corn, and I was pushed on it and

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Speaker 1: it slipped and I jabbed it into my other hand,

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Speaker 1: into my finger, deep into my finger. I still have

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Speaker 1: the wood. I have blood squirting out of the two holes,

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Speaker 1: and it's swollen up. Today. I got some sort of

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Speaker 1: corn tetanus going on. I think corn juice tetanus. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's a thing. Oh, it can't be

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Speaker 1: good for you. It hurt shockingly much. And as Henry

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Speaker 1: pointed out, you have salt in your wound. I did.

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Speaker 1: I'd salted the corn already, and so I got salted

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Speaker 1: there good. It was just uite, the quite the off

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Speaker 1: putting thing to have happened right at the dinner table.

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Speaker 1: Are you up to date on your Titanus shots. I

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Speaker 1: was wondering about that. How long do they last? Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's been, like I know at least how long it's

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Speaker 1: been because the last time I got a tetanus shot,

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Speaker 1: I was drunk and tripped climbing over a rusty barbed

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Speaker 1: wire fence, so I had to go get my tennis shot.

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Speaker 1: But I haven't had a drink in eighteen years, so

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Speaker 1: it's been at least eighty. Yeah, keep an eye on that.

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Speaker 1: If my Josh Arsenal lock up and I talk like this,

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Speaker 1: let me know. I don't think there's any curing you.

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Speaker 1: At that point, you'll be dead. Look for the barcessities,

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Speaker 1: the simple fair necessities, like final thoughts to end in

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Speaker 1: the other show in the Mancessity Mother Nature's recipes, like

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Speaker 1: final thoughts from our host Jack and Joe.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's a ukulele. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 4: Let's get a final thought from everybody and the crew

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Speaker 4: to wrap up the show. There is our technical director,

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Speaker 4: Michael lead us Off. Jack.

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Speaker 1: Is it true I saw a tweet that you ate

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Speaker 1: a tower of donuts? Yeah, we got the donut tower

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Speaker 1: at Red Robin the other day. That thing was freaking good.

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Speaker 1: We were all shocked at how those donuts where they're

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Speaker 1: hot and fresh right off the griddle.

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Speaker 4: The donut tower and architectural marvel Katie Green are esteemed

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Speaker 4: newswoman is final thought, Katie All.

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Speaker 2: I responded to that tweet and I said, dot dot dot,

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Speaker 2: but a bag of chips is a step too far.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, speaking of the donut tower at Red Robin,

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Speaker 1: usually we get the ort, the onion ring tower, which

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Speaker 1: we call the ORT, and it is caught on at

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Speaker 1: the restaurant. Now the other waitresses called the ort. But

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Speaker 1: the donut tower comes with hot caramel to dip it

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Speaker 1: in or hot chocolate to dip it in. Fudge. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: that's some good eating.

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Speaker 4: Later today, I'm looking forward to eating a cake condominium.

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Speaker 1: Wait, no, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: My final thought is reading the comments on that Jeff

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Speaker 4: Bezos opinion piece is so revealing. Every single one and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, fifteen comments in every single one is an

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Speaker 4: ad hominem attack, an attack on Bezos is a bad

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Speaker 4: person or a billionaire.

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Speaker 1: Not a single damn one addresses his arguments. What would

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Speaker 1: that's revealing? What would your argument be? Armstrong person? Armstrong

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Speaker 1: in getty rabbing him another grueling four hour workday.

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Speaker 4: So many people who think so little time go to

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Speaker 4: armstrong e giddy dot com.

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Speaker 1: What a great hot lengths for you?

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Speaker 4: Pick up a hot Dogs Are Dogs t shirt and

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Speaker 4: wear it to the Zan Jose State Women's volleyball games

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Speaker 4: where they have a dude playing.

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Speaker 1: I can't keep my weight down. Must be my metabolism

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Speaker 1: or something we'll see tomorrow. God bless America. I'm man

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Speaker 1: enough to enjoy it. I'm strong and getty.

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Speaker 3: I've been thinking that we really all need a trim

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Speaker 3: and hug.

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Speaker 1: About I'm gonna stop you, so let's go with a

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Speaker 1: buy it. It's like a did he freak off. It's

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Speaker 1: they're all.

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Speaker 4: Oiled up in their own unctious lesty morality slash ideology,

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Speaker 4: and they're all having like intellectual orgy sex with each.

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Speaker 1: Other that I know. Thanks you all very much, Armstrong

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Speaker 1: and Yetti