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Speaker 1: My name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for tuning in. Together.

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Speaker 1: A while back, Australia famously banned guns after mass shooting

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Speaker 1: I thought this was a hilarious, hilarious in a horrifying

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Speaker 13: From the first of September, when the ban on machetes

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Speaker 14: People can come and lawfully dispose of any machete that

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Speaker 1: Yep, it's it's the knives. I hate it when my

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Speaker 1: Australians in the state of Victoria have until September one

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Speaker 4: Well, I just think it's hilarious that this benevolent government

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Speaker 4: I wonder what they're gonna do with the giant spiders though.

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Speaker 4: I do think you need machetes to handle some of

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Speaker 4: so many other countries. How long until they start doing

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Speaker 2: Been the knife?

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Speaker 4: This always seems to happen that evil people are gonna

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Speaker 1: I think they're trying to get there from a green

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Speaker 1: Why why do you think that is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, again, it is a cultural problem. Try fixing the

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Speaker 5: You know, I really was a huge culture shock the

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Speaker 5: So this is done on purpose to try to make

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Speaker 1: and they, yeah, they couldn't recoup all of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that they were lending stuff out for because you can't

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Speaker 1: repoll it. Like Chris, you can repoe a car, you

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Speaker 1: can evict somebody from a house and foreclothes on it.

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Speaker 1: You can't repoe a burrito unless you're weird and into

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Speaker 1: some pretty sadistic stuff, you know. To Alex's point, do

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Speaker 1: you think this is kind of like on purpose to

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Speaker 1: kind of diminish people's ability to finance bigger and more

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Speaker 1: necessary necessary things in the future. You'll you'll own nothing

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Speaker 1: and enjoy it type of mentality.

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Speaker 4: I think Alex actually makes a great point. Debt slavery

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Speaker 4: is not a conspiracy theory. We see it happen to

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Speaker 4: college kids every year as they walk across that aisle

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Speaker 4: for graduation. I would go a step further and I

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Speaker 4: would say, you know, take away even the buy now,

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Speaker 4: pay later. Poor people shouldn't be using Uber Eats and

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Speaker 4: door Dash for starters.

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Speaker 2: Go pick it up on your own. Let's be perfect

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Speaker 2: less make a sandwich.

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Speaker 4: I remember when I was struggling in radio and trying

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Speaker 4: to make it.

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Speaker 2: I went for a week eating.

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Speaker 4: Stale taco shells in salsa, and like you had to.

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Speaker 2: Go through that.

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Speaker 4: You had to experience that, and it got me to

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Speaker 4: a better place. If I could have financed a burrito,

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Speaker 4: I would have and I would have been in debt

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Speaker 4: and I wouldn't have been able to climb that ladder

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Speaker 4: to where I am now, owning.

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Speaker 2: A home, having a wife, having kids.

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Speaker 4: No, you shouldn't be using any of this stuff period,

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Speaker 4: if you're not financially stable, let alone the buy now,

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Speaker 4: pay later.

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Speaker 2: Aspect of it.

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Speaker 4: You're screwing yourself if you were a college kid, if

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Speaker 4: you're a young person, because that's who they're targeting. Really,

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Speaker 4: you're screwing yourself using this stuff, whether it's buy now,

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Speaker 4: pay later, or using it just at face value.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what I heard from that is having a wife

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Speaker 1: as a financial decision. Interesting and I don't necessarily disagree,

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Speaker 1: but a topic for a different time. Alex and Chris, guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for your input. Really appreciate you taking

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Speaker 6: Thanks, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 15: Every day I get asked, Alex when it comes to

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Speaker 15: eating better, living cleaner, I'm overwhelmed. I don't know where

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Speaker 15: to start. And it also can't be too expensive and

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Speaker 15: it can't be too complicated. So what is your answer

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Speaker 15: for people like.

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Speaker 16: That make sustainable habits, create a program that works for you,

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Speaker 16: that works for your family, that fits your budget. I

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Speaker 16: will say the first week is always going to be

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Speaker 16: more expensive. Adding in those seeds, in those healthy oils.

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Speaker 16: There's a cost to that, but they last and so

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Speaker 16: after that usually the grocery list evens out, and that's

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Speaker 16: something I'm really considerate of with people. Repeat meals, don't

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Speaker 16: let anything go to waste. That's the key sustainable habits.

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Speaker 15: What is an integrative nutritionist and what is your food philosophy?

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Speaker 16: I think anybody you ask would probably give you a

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Speaker 16: different answer, But my answer what an integrative nutrition is

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Speaker 16: means I'm looking at the mind, the body, and the spirit.

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Speaker 16: And sometimes when I work with somebody, it's all spiritual.

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Speaker 16: Sometimes when I work with somebody, it's all emotional. Sometimes

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Speaker 16: when I work with somebody, it's all clinical. So the

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Speaker 16: bioindividualized approach using all different kinds of quote unquote medicine,

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Speaker 16: anything from like Chinese iervidic, biomolecular.

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Speaker 17: To traditional functional. I say traditional functional because functional medicine.

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Speaker 16: Has been so popular and I don't even like the

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Speaker 16: word medicine necessarily, but that's what it's referred to as.

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Speaker 16: So I really integrate what people need to support their

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Speaker 16: whole body. One of my favorite methods, which I hope

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Speaker 16: we get into later, is iovidic because I want to

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Speaker 16: tell you more about yourself.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I don't know any word. I don't even know

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Speaker 15: what it means.

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Speaker 16: Okay, so Irvidic is ancient medicine. It comes from like

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Speaker 16: six thousand years ago. It was written not even in scrolls,

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Speaker 16: but like in trees. But my favorite part of iervidic

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Speaker 16: is that we're responsible for supporting our bodies, for bringing

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Speaker 16: balance to the body, and so many people bypass that

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Speaker 16: by trying to supplement symptoms or supplement in general. So

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Speaker 16: Irvidic is like, how do we restore the body that

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Speaker 16: we're given with the elements that the body is And

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Speaker 16: so it sounds like woo woo when you think of

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Speaker 16: it that way, but even Western culture adopted the philosophy

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Speaker 16: when it came to assessing criminals. So there's a irevidic

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Speaker 16: Dosha body type, and then there's this somatic body type

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Speaker 16: or not somatic, that's nervous system somo typing when it

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Speaker 16: comes to assessing criminals. So it's ironic that we adopted

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Speaker 16: this body type when it comes to assessing criminals. But

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Speaker 16: there's three different body types and they are each made

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Speaker 16: up of different elements, and based on the elements that

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Speaker 16: the body type is made up with, is how you

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Speaker 16: rebalance and restore the body like, certain body types should

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Speaker 16: never in a million year's cold plunge ever, ever, ever,

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Speaker 16: who I knew it?

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Speaker 17: I knew it.

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Speaker 15: I have been infected this from day one, that cold

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Speaker 15: plunge will be terrible for me. And I've and telling

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Speaker 15: people I don't think, oh women should be cold plunging.

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Speaker 16: Exactly, And you're a hundred percent right, a Vata woman,

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Speaker 16: you long lean air is your element, should never cold punch.

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Speaker 15: Ever, would that be the case for anybody with autoimmune

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Speaker 15: I will.

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Speaker 16: Say that most thyroid hashimotos and other autoimmune related to

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Speaker 16: that are Vata body types, so they all they do

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Speaker 16: go hand in hand. Yes, for most people with certain

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Speaker 16: autoimmune they shouldn't. But the pitta and the kaffa, those

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Speaker 16: are the other two body types. A pitta is really strong.

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Speaker 16: A lot of business owners go getters. Fire is the element, okay,

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Speaker 16: and then the kafa is wood water goes with the flow,

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Speaker 16: always pleasing others, but tends to be a little bit bulkier.

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Speaker 17: They can cold pune, okay. The pitta needs a cold plunch.

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Speaker 16: That's why those are the people that are raping about

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Speaker 16: it and trying to get everybody to buy one, because

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Speaker 16: they're a pitta and they need to put their fire out,

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Speaker 16: but a vata and air doesn't need to be any

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Speaker 16: colder than you already are.

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Speaker 15: Okay, this is fascinating, Yet I feel like you could

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Speaker 15: do a whole episode just on this.

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Speaker 16: I know, and I was like holding out on telling you.

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Speaker 16: So my food philosophy in the feel good way that

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Speaker 16: you will find that I've been teaching for seventeen years.

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Speaker 16: Part of what I learned was because I was a

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Speaker 16: female college athlete and I wanted to take that performance

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Speaker 16: energy into everyday life because I thought, doesn't everybody.

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Speaker 17: Want to perform?

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Speaker 16: And the more I'm around people that are business owners

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Speaker 16: or you know, want to feel good at their daily jobs.

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Speaker 17: Everybody wants to perform. Everybody wants to have energy.

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Speaker 16: So I built the feel good philosophy seventeen years ago

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Speaker 16: and it still stands. So it's eating within the hour

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Speaker 16: of waking up, always combining all three macros carbs, fats, proteins.

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Speaker 16: My philosophy for a cycling woman is fifty percent carbs,

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Speaker 16: twenty to thirty percent fat, twenty to thirty percent protein.

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Speaker 16: And the way this looks is the palm of the

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Speaker 16: hand carbs, the fists, protein, and the thumb fat because

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Speaker 16: the fat is twice as nutrient dense. Oh and I'm

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Speaker 16: not saying we should limit ourselves to that. This is

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Speaker 16: a range, it's a road map, but not necessarily hard

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Speaker 16: fast rules. I just think that cycling women tend to

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Speaker 16: under eat carbs because it's kind of the trend.

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Speaker 15: So that's definitely what I'm doing, and it's not my choice.

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Speaker 15: It's just I think I'm struggling getting enough carbs because

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Speaker 15: I was told by so many people I need to

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Speaker 15: be gluten free. So then I'm not eating a lot

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Speaker 15: of bread, right, And I feel like I am somebody

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Speaker 15: that would love a huge, heaping pile of grass fed

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Speaker 15: butter on top of some bread and soured oat bread,

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Speaker 15: and now I can't eat that. So it's just like, Okay,

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Speaker 15: is it potatoes or is it rice?

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Speaker 17: I mean, what are my actions?

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Speaker 15: I'm trying, But it's just like every meal.

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Speaker 16: I mean, there is a bread company that I love

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Speaker 16: out of Colorado that's like so worth ordering as much

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Speaker 16: as you can fit in your freezer.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, tell me outside the bread box. Okay, they have

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Speaker 17: vegan oat.

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Speaker 16: If you do good with oats, I don't do good

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Speaker 16: with oats as oatmeal personally, but I do good with

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Speaker 16: oats baked in things.

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Speaker 17: Got their bread tastes like a croissant. I'm not joking.

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Speaker 17: Okayches with it. You can do all kinds of things.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 15: I love AWG. I've talked about them on the show

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Speaker 15: before that she makes a phenomenal gluten free bread that's

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Speaker 15: actually it is the only gluten free bread that I

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Speaker 15: will eat.

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Speaker 17: Every all of them I.

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Speaker 15: Think are the nasty carbs. But yeah, so that doesn't

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Speaker 15: count as carbs. So and then I had this woman,

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Speaker 15: Sue Becker, who was wildly popular, saying it's not gluten

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Speaker 15: nobody has to be gluten free. You have to mill

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Speaker 15: your own flour, right, And I don't disagree with that. Okay,

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Speaker 15: So you think that there could be truth to that.

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Speaker 16: I think there could be truth to that for people

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Speaker 16: that are intolerant and people that aren't trying to be

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Speaker 16: in a healing phase. So there's a difference between like

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Speaker 16: being in a healing phase and being all in on

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Speaker 16: your choices with your food and maintaining. So if you

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Speaker 16: were to get because are you Hashi motos, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 16: So if you were to get that in remission, then

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Speaker 16: I would say that you could totally have it, and

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Speaker 16: I would even say that you could have long fermented sour.

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Speaker 17: Though that's the trend that icy in my own community.

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Speaker 16: At least eating within the hour of waking up, always

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Speaker 16: regulating your blood sugar BITTI all three macros together, eating

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Speaker 16: every four hours. Again, women still cycling postmounopause can get

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Speaker 16: away with five hours, so it's going to be three

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Speaker 16: to four meals a day for most women. Keeping meal

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Speaker 16: size is consistent. This is one thing I don't see.

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Speaker 16: The only exception if you're going all in on iervidic

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Speaker 16: and your Dosha body type is some of us need

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Speaker 16: a way bulkier lunch than any other meal, which is

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Speaker 16: ironic because we're told to bulk the breakfast. But I've

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Speaker 16: noticed a huge shift in my afternoon energy by bulking

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Speaker 16: the lunch. And when I say bulking, I mean like

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Speaker 16: one hundred calories extra. So keeping meal size is consistent,

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Speaker 16: no small snacks. Eating five different colors a day. Having

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Speaker 16: the different colors fills your gut with a diverse microbiome,

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Speaker 16: but also different antioxidants and different phytonutrients. Each different color

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Speaker 16: has its own set of nutrients that it's offering. So

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Speaker 16: eating the different colors of the rainbow makes a big

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Speaker 16: difference for anti aging, for energy, for gut diversity, and

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Speaker 16: all these amazing things.

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Speaker 15: Okay, So on that kind of a weird question that

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Speaker 15: just popped into my head. Would sometimes it be good

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Speaker 15: to opt for the purple potatoes rather than the yellow potatoes.

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Speaker 17: So that really does make a difference. It does make

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Speaker 17: a difference.

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Speaker 16: And the other fun thing about potatoes and like apples,

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Speaker 16: is the flesh and the.

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Speaker 17: Flesh and the skin both count as the skin the

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Speaker 17: corpse all in flesh and skin. Okay, it's two different colors.

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Speaker 16: If they are two different colors, don't go eating your

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Speaker 16: banana peels, okay.

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Speaker 15: And then also, this is interesting to me that you

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Speaker 15: said about the a thumb size of fat with every meal.

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Speaker 15: So to me, I'm like, oh my gosh, I have

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Speaker 15: to eat like a whole avocado to get my fat.

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Speaker 15: But you're saying it's it was double, your fat is

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Speaker 15: double and neutreat and density or something like that.

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Speaker 12: Okay.

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Speaker 15: So then for a meal, if I just cook the

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Speaker 15: protein and beef tallow, does that count.

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Speaker 17: For fat or no? Yes, it does count for fat, okay.

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Speaker 16: And it's like Again, it's not a hard fast rule,

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Speaker 16: but I do feel like it helps for people to

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Speaker 16: have a visual of what their plate is supposed to

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Speaker 16: look like. Yes, so they're not measuring their food, they're

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Speaker 16: not counting, they're not obsessing over it.

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Speaker 17: It's more intuitive.

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Speaker 12: Okay.

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Speaker 15: So literally, I don't know anything about fat. It is butter, Yeah, butter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so butter, beef towel.

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Speaker 17: I'll cut what else? Seeds all of our oils? What

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Speaker 17: does that mean?

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Speaker 16: Seeds like pepita or pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, hemp seeds,

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Speaker 16: you know, stuff we sprinkle on top of our meals

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Speaker 16: or add to our smooth these flax seeds, all of that.

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Speaker 15: Kind of okay, fat, How do you put seeds on

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Speaker 15: just like a you know, a regular dinner plate.

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Speaker 16: So like a surfry Okay, I don't know if you

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Speaker 16: ever make a surfry. It's five minute dinner. It's one

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Speaker 16: of our go to's in our house, or a sheet

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Speaker 16: pan dinner. And then sprinkle it with some hemp seeds

698
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Speaker 16: or sesame seeds or even cashoes crumbled up cashews. That's

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Speaker 16: another way to get in your fat. I know some

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Speaker 16: people don't necessarily cook with their fat because they'd rather

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Speaker 16: add it and have a little bit more control over it.

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Speaker 16: I'm not that obsessive when it comes to like the ranges.

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Speaker 16: I just know that for a fact that if we

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Speaker 16: don't combine our carbs with our fats and our protein

705
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Speaker 16: every single time we eat, we're gonna be dealing with

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Speaker 16: an irregular blood sugar. And when it comes to our bodies,

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Speaker 16: the key to maintaining metabolic health is blood sugar. And

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Speaker 16: it's mind blowing that God gave us these bodies with

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Speaker 16: no guide, and this is such a vital way to live,

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Speaker 16: but people do it all the time everywhere I go.

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Speaker 16: I'm like, it's so hard for me to not observe,

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Speaker 16: especially kids, because I have four kids, and I'm with

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Speaker 16: kids all the time eating carbs by themselves, and an

714
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Speaker 16: unstable blood sugar leads to metabolic dysfunction majorly, but minorly,

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Speaker 16: it leads to mood swings, it leads to hormone issues,

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Speaker 16: it leads to heightened emotions, it leads to stored fat.

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Speaker 17: It has to be to low energy.

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Speaker 1: love seeing all the videos and all the things that

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Speaker 1: Land's highest court. So anyways, email tpt at tpusa dot com. Now,

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Speaker 1: there's we had a little bit of a filming issue.

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Speaker 1: I think it was on Wednesday. There was a live

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Speaker 1: event going on. It kind of overlapped our show, and

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Speaker 1: that's totally fine, that happens, It's TV. What are you

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Speaker 1: gonna do? But there were several videos that I think

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Speaker 1: we aired there that I really really wanted to make

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Speaker 1: sure we got on and so I want to play

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Speaker 1: them for you today. And if you've seen them twice,

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Speaker 1: you've seen them on social media. Sorry, but it's just

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Speaker 1: they were too good to pass up. This first clip

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Speaker 1: is of a it looks like a brother and a

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Speaker 1: sister talking about real life things in terms of men

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Speaker 1: and women. And I can't tell what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: I'm completely honest with you. I'm not sure if he's joking,

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Speaker 1: or if she is really like, oh, this whole thing

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00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, or if he doesn't know that she's

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Speaker 1: at it's a whole kind of concluded thing. I don't

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Speaker 1: entirely know how to take it in. All that I

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Speaker 1: know is that it's great that this has happened. I

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Speaker 1: watched this.

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Speaker 18: Should men and women both be drafted in the war.

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Speaker 18: If there's a World War three that happens. I guess

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Speaker 18: you think both should be drafted.

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Speaker 8: Draft It means like you have.

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Speaker 1: To I know, I know what drafted is.

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Speaker 18: Oh okay, I mean like equality. I guess so, so

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Speaker 18: you think they should just drop off a form at

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Speaker 18: everybody's store and be like, if your kid's over eighteen,

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Speaker 18: they have to go to war.

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Speaker 1: Good wanted this though?

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Speaker 13: Who did the women?

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Speaker 18: No thing didn't want it.

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Speaker 19: Equal rights.

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Speaker 1: If somebody can vote, they can vote.

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Speaker 17: If someone goes to war, which is hard, someone.

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Speaker 1: Goes for but men are bigger.

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Speaker 18: So then they're like, like, so, now you're being sexist.

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Speaker 2: What No, in theory, you're right, but no.

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Speaker 18: Theory, it could also be wrong.

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Speaker 8: You're a sexist girl.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sum right In rewatching it, I think think what's

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Speaker 1: actually happening is both of them, thankfully, are stumbling their

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Speaker 1: way into the reality that the whole woke ideology is

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Speaker 1: just ridiculous. He is going hold on, hold on, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: all of these people at my school, and unfortunately keeps

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Speaker 1: telling me that everybody is exactly the same. There's no

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Speaker 1: difference between men and women. Anything that a man can

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Speaker 1: do a woman can do, and anything a woman can

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Speaker 1: do a man can do, including give birth. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: you should go to war and get drafted. And I

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Speaker 1: think she is realizing this looks like his sister going, no,

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Speaker 1: whoa hold on, we want to you know, all the

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Speaker 1: same thing. But except for that, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do that because well that if I'm smaller than men,

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Speaker 1: And regardless of if either of them are joking or serious, again,

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Speaker 1: I can't really tell. I think the main point is

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00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: that they're both finding their way to reality, which isn't

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Speaker 1: that what conservatism is the acknowledgment that it reality exists

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Speaker 1: and trying to maneuver policy and lifestyle and culture in

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Speaker 1: a way that fits into what already exists in reality

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Speaker 1: and in human nature. And you kind of find that

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Speaker 1: out by going through life, and you kind of figure

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Speaker 1: that out organically. If you just questioned the mantras of

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Speaker 1: the lives, men and women are exactly the same. There's

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Speaker 1: no physical differences. A man can be a woman, abortion

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Speaker 1: isn't murder. All of these things that they say. The

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Speaker 1: more that you puzzle through them, the more that you

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Speaker 1: start to realize, holy cow, none of it actually makes

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Speaker 1: any sense. I gotta get to this next clip. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry for having to make you listen to forty seconds

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Speaker 1: of Jasmine Crockett, but watch till the very end. I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure Congresswoman Crockett forgot this lady's name. Just just

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Speaker 1: watch it. I want to know if you agree with me.

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Speaker 1: Check it out.

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Speaker 20: I am Texas Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, but I am standing

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Speaker 20: here with one.

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Speaker 17: Of my faves.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, listen and guess what.

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Speaker 20: Neither one of us are in Texas. You know why,

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Speaker 20: because we know that it is time to stand up,

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Speaker 20: rise up, and fight back against these fools that think

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Speaker 20: that we're weak. One thing that they should know when

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Speaker 20: it comes to a black woman and a Latina, that's right,

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Speaker 20: they are about to get a little spice, okay, And

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Speaker 20: that's exactly what they got. So right now, we are

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Speaker 20: fighting for our rights in this country. We are fighting

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Speaker 20: for democracy, and I just want you all to know

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Speaker 20: that I'm standing ten toes down with my homie be

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Speaker 20: representative from the great state of Texas.

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Speaker 17: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think she clearly forgot that woman's name, and

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Speaker 1: I don't blame her for having to take the video.

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Speaker 1: You kind of in these situations you kind of you

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00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: talk about different things with different people, and some people

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00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: are lying, some people aren't. I understand all of that,

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00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: but clearly that was the situation that happened there. And

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Speaker 1: in the process of doing this video, poor old Congresswoman

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Speaker 1: Jasmine Crockett just completely forgot that lady's name. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what, I don't know her name either. This is

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter and that's you know, that's that. But

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Speaker 1: that's going to do it for us here at turning

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Speaker 1: point tonight. Have a great weekend. We'll see a Monday.

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Speaker 1: Charlie's gone take us out. God bless America and.

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Speaker 2: Russell.

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Speaker 8: Great to see you. Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 12: It's so lovely to see you. So I've so much

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Speaker 12: to talk about.

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Speaker 8: Here are you hearing around a Bible?

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Speaker 19: That's my Bible in one year from our daily readings,

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Speaker 19: and I thought it was very apposite that today we've

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Speaker 19: transitioned out of Acts and into Romans one because on

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Speaker 19: our previous conversation, which was in Milwaukee the RNC, you

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Speaker 19: said to me that Romans is the Christian constitution.

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Speaker 12: This is from my friend Jay John. I like it.

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Speaker 19: It's old and New Testament. It's very easy to carry

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Speaker 19: around and read. These are just some of my notes

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Speaker 19: in preparation for the interview. Note one in sure Guantanamo

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Speaker 19: gator present in front row.

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Speaker 12: This will distract Charlie.

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Speaker 19: No, there's just like lots of actually notes about Rome

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Speaker 19: itself and Caravagia and stuff like that. So yeah, I

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Speaker 19: carry two Bibles which recognize it's quite cumbersome. But I've

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Speaker 19: not been Christian very long, so what do you expect?

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Speaker 8: And so, Russell, you have a phenomenal story, and thank

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Speaker 8: you for taking time to travel to this conference.

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Speaker 2: It's terrific.

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Speaker 12: Thanks for paying me to come.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, absolutely well, thank you for gladly accepting. So

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Speaker 8: you were in public eye. You still are in a

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Speaker 8: non Christian lifestyle, is that fair to say?

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Speaker 12: Almost anti Christian in some ways?

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Speaker 8: Walk us through the journey as you're comfortable sharing from

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Speaker 8: that lifestyle to now giving your life to Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 19: Well, you know, in a sense, we have no choice

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Speaker 19: but to worship something. And my devoutness and devotion was

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Speaker 19: effortlessly directed by the culture and by my conditions I

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Speaker 19: mean familial and psychological as well as social towards worship

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Speaker 19: and reverence of the individual, which I see as being

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Speaker 19: the nexus of false idolatry. Really, as long as you're

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Speaker 19: trapped in self worshiping yourself, aspects of yourself, self aggrandizement,

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Speaker 19: pursuit of personal glory, you're very easily.

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Speaker 12: Contained by the culture.

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Speaker 19: In a sense, I've started to recognize that the culture

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Speaker 19: once it's in a state of self centered bewilderment. When

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Speaker 19: you're in that state, you're very easy to manage and manipulate.

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Speaker 19: I really thought that I was autonomous and had a

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Speaker 19: great deal of personal authority. In fact, I would have

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Speaker 19: believed in the kind of rags to riches idea that

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Speaker 19: I come from a pretty modest background and through success

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Speaker 19: and endeavor and hard work, and through personal excellence and

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Speaker 19: nobility and charm moxy, call it what you will, I

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Speaker 19: fought against the odds to become a Hollywood star and

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Speaker 19: marry Katie Perry and be on red carpets all over

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Speaker 19: the place for a brief while I lived with the guantanamogator.

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Speaker 12: It was a complicated era.

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Speaker 19: That's how I would have characterized it, Charlie as I

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Speaker 19: loved that one, Yeah, and I kept it quite as embarrassed.

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Speaker 19: I would have characterized it as a sort of a

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Speaker 19: story of personal success, and I didn't.

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Speaker 12: This is how I came to realize this. I was

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Speaker 12: looking at the work of u.

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Speaker 19: Val know Harari, the writer of Sapiens, which I've found

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Speaker 19: perfectly enjoyable, till it became clear to me it was

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Speaker 19: an atheistic trope that was geared towards directing people towards

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Speaker 19: surrender and subjugation, towards ai force idol.

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Speaker 12: That's what it was. It was, wasn't it. And I thought, Oh,

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Speaker 12: the reason this guy is such.

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Speaker 19: Popular and accredited intellectual is because his message and agenda

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Speaker 19: fits very neatly into the agenda of powerful elites who

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Speaker 19: determine which cultural artifacts get celebrated and popularized. I didn't

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Speaker 19: realize that at first. And then afore, I wonder if

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Speaker 19: you were that. I wonder if there was something about

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Speaker 19: your success, Russell, that was telling the culture a story

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Speaker 19: that he wanted to hear. And then I thought about

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Speaker 19: it for a while, because it is, after all, my

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Speaker 19: favorite subject me. And while I was thinking about that,

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Speaker 19: fort oh, yeah, it was my personal hedonism and my

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Speaker 19: sense of myself as self actualizing through excess.

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Speaker 12: That's a story the culture likes to tell.

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Speaker 19: Itself, So really you were just the useful sort of

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Speaker 19: vessel or expression of a particular set of cultural ideas.

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Speaker 19: I came to Christ the way that some people do

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Speaker 19: who don't have the benefit of Christianity in early life,

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Speaker 19: although it happened obviously at the perfect time, through a

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Speaker 19: variety of collapses in my private and public life. Sort

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Speaker 19: of a personal difficulty with the birth of my son,

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Speaker 19: who's sort of beautiful and incredible and in doing very well,

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Speaker 19: but certainly was a crisis in our family for a minute,

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Speaker 19: and through false allegations of sexual misconduct, which gave me

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Speaker 19: great pause for reflection on the way that I'd lived

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Speaker 19: for a lot of time and the impact of that lifestyle.

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Speaker 12: And I suppose in the midst of.

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Speaker 19: All that confusion, the clarity of Christ came in a

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Speaker 19: way that's still difficult to describe. But most recently I

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Speaker 19: felt Charlie when reading I was looking at Acts, and

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Speaker 19: it talked about the meeting of Paul and Peter, So

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Speaker 19: I went to check it in Galatians, the same encounter,

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Speaker 19: and I thought, in that encounter between Paul and Peter,

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Speaker 19: you've got someone who knew Christ. While alone, I even

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Speaker 19: met the resurrected Christ, as well as Paul, who has

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Speaker 19: this profound, incredible vision re encounter with him thought, and

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Speaker 19: I had that kind of visceral wave of the reality

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Speaker 19: and truth of the historical Christ, not just the mythic

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Speaker 19: Christ that we need to use as a sort of

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Speaker 19: an inner constellation for personal guidance.

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Speaker 12: But oh, my god, it actually happened. It actually happened.

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Speaker 19: And when I feel that, it brings me out of

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Speaker 19: the hum drum, it brings me out of the central

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Speaker 19: and it puts me in the supernatural, where I believe

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Speaker 19: we must to some degree live in.

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Speaker 12: The world, not of yes.

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Speaker 8: And so I'm sure you tried Buddhism or did you

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Speaker 8: experiment with Easter and stuff? What made Christianity different?

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Speaker 12: The reason I was repulsed by.

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Speaker 19: Christianity initially was because I felt like, this is the

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Speaker 19: religion of like, you know, like any ordinary American or

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Speaker 19: my grandmother or my wife is accessible to everyone. I

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Speaker 19: must have something a little more esoteric, a little rarer,

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Speaker 19: a little more hard or gnostic, a little more gnostic

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Speaker 19: and a little less conformist. I felt that, you know,

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Speaker 19: Christianity and maybe instant an argument that could be had

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Speaker 19: about whether institutional Christianity is used as a kind of

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Speaker 19: panacea to prevent people being the radical revolutionaries that I

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Speaker 19: believe our Lord would have us be. And I when

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Speaker 19: I like with things like Buddhism and Sufism, not then

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Speaker 19: claiming to have had a deep understanding of these faiths,

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Speaker 19: just an autodidactic perusal of the books of Sufiism and

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Speaker 19: Hinduism and Buddhism and philosophy, although there were many, many

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Speaker 19: truths that were discovered in them texts at the center

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Speaker 19: of those truths, Charlie, there, I was.

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Speaker 12: Still trapped in self.

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Speaker 19: When I surrendered kind of voluntarily yet exhausted to the

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Speaker 19: man Christ, the flesh Christ, I realized, Ah.

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Speaker 12: I wanted to be Jesus.

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Speaker 19: I wanted to be the center, the Son of God,

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Speaker 19: the apex that.

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Speaker 12: Yet I can't do miracles.

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Speaker 19: I'm not willing to be crucified now, since it's surrendering

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Speaker 19: to Him, accepting Him, bowing at the foot of his

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Speaker 19: cross on my knee, shoulder shoulder with any one.

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Speaker 12: Of you that accepts Jesus alongside me.

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Speaker 19: I feel relieved, I feel unburdened, I feel empowered, And

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Speaker 19: I realized that the person that I used to be

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Speaker 19: was not an error or a mistake, but part of

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Speaker 19: the unfolding way, as the early Christians called it. And

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Speaker 19: I find it interesting that a lot of these ideas

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Speaker 19: that I investigated, Dear Charlie, like Taoism, say, have embodied

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Speaker 19: in them even semantically, notions that can be discovered in Christianity.

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Speaker 7: Got to admire what you've been able to do, not

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Speaker 7: to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses.

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Speaker 8: making a real difference.

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Speaker 12: Help us keep the momentum going.

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