WEBVTT - The Corporate Push to Criminalize Speech

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<v Speaker 1>Now you might think of the Mounties as kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like Dudley do, right, They always get their man. They

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<v Speaker 1>ride around in the musical ride with their red jackets.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mountains make no mistake. They are a vicious colonial militia.

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<v Speaker 1>They were formed in order to break the backs of

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<v Speaker 1>the indigenous resistance on the prairies, to open up the

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<v Speaker 1>land to railways and western expansion by settlers. And they

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<v Speaker 1>are still doing that job here on the colonial frontier

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<v Speaker 1>in Northern VC, except these days they have helicopters and

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<v Speaker 1>attack dogs and all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>The response from the authorities, like the police, whenever that

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<v Speaker 2>I say protests against oil companies, it's always different from

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<v Speaker 2>how they respond to other protests.

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<v Speaker 3>After about two hours of a standoff, they just line

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<v Speaker 3>up the riot squad and just marched the mean you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember them performing together. Reminded me a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>that have puffed up turkeys. I went and then went

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<v Speaker 3>in and surrounded all these poor kids and started arresting

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<v Speaker 3>them and moving on.

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<v Speaker 4>So technically the investigation is still on and I can't

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<v Speaker 4>plan around it. I can't, and I don't know when

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to end, So I don't know how long

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<v Speaker 4>it will take.

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<v Speaker 5>When the former colonies acquired independence. In the advent of dicolonization,

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<v Speaker 5>largely after the Second World War and the advent of

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<v Speaker 5>the United Nations, the former imperial powers needed a legal

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<v Speaker 5>system to protect the economic interests of their corporations.

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<v Speaker 6>When I went to surrender.

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<v Speaker 7>To the FBI, I thought it was going to be kind.

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<v Speaker 6>Of a straightforward, more of a like a clerical matter.

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<v Speaker 8>But I ended up being put into shackles and taken

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<v Speaker 8>into custody for a good part of the day without

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of explanation of.

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<v Speaker 6>What was happening or why that was necessary. That was

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<v Speaker 6>Kainda Gata in Canada, Fine Faced Dunamini in Nigeria, David

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<v Speaker 6>Shubridge in Australia, Disha Robbie in Bangalore, Marcos, Oriana and Chile,

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<v Speaker 6>and Joanna Altman Smith in the US. Across the globe,

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<v Speaker 6>people advocating for climate action, whether they're students showing up

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<v Speaker 6>protests or lawyers arguing in court, are being retaliated against

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<v Speaker 6>by industries and politicians that feel threatened by that advocacy.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Amy Westerwald, and over the next several months we

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<v Speaker 6>will be following this trend across borders, looking at everything

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<v Speaker 6>from the history of environmental protest and the suppression of it,

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<v Speaker 6>to the way think tanks help to push legislation that

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<v Speaker 6>criminalizes protests, to tactics used by both corporations and law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 6>from infiltrating movements to stripping environmental organizations of their nonprofit

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<v Speaker 6>status and labeling protesters domestic terrorists. For land and water

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<v Speaker 6>defenders around the world, being labeled a criminal can have

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<v Speaker 6>severe personal consequences, from social isolation to post traumatic stress,

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<v Speaker 6>to years of incarceration, and, at the extreme end, assassination.

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<v Speaker 6>Most serious repercussions fall on populations that are already routinely criminalized,

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<v Speaker 6>particularly people of color and indigenous people, especially in places

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<v Speaker 6>that have experienced colonialism in its most brutal forms. Criminalization

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<v Speaker 6>also impacts the broader climate and environmental movements, draining them

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<v Speaker 6>of vital resources and key organizers. Ultimately, our ability to

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<v Speaker 6>avoid the worst outcomes of the climate crisis depends on

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<v Speaker 6>the success of people organizing to protect the land and water.

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<v Speaker 6>To edit this series, we've brought on a reporter who's

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<v Speaker 6>been covering this issue longer than most, Alleen Brown. You

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<v Speaker 6>might recognize her name from her last gig at the Intercept. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>Alleen is an independent investigative reporter, contributing to lots of

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<v Speaker 6>different publications and publishing her own newsletter too, called Eco Files.

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<v Speaker 6>Working with Allen and with reporters on almost every continent,

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<v Speaker 6>we'll be bringing you stories that help to trace the

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<v Speaker 6>roots of this trend. We're going to highlight successful fights

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<v Speaker 6>against it as well and humanize activists that the media

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<v Speaker 6>has helped to vilify and dehumanize for far too long.

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<v Speaker 6>You might remember us talking about how this trend has

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<v Speaker 6>unfolded in the US in previous episodes, where we've covered

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<v Speaker 6>the rollout of so called critical infrastructure laws that increase

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<v Speaker 6>both the fines and jail time associated with trespassing near

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<v Speaker 6>anything deemed critical infrastructure, which can include anything from a

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<v Speaker 6>pipeline to a road. Environmental defenders sometimes use tactics like

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<v Speaker 6>non violent direct action or civil disobedience to prevent the

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<v Speaker 6>construction and operation of polluting projects that can involve physically

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<v Speaker 6>standing in the way of construction equipment or trespassing on

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<v Speaker 6>private property. More rarely, some activists physically damage equipment. These

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<v Speaker 6>acts cost companies money, and sometimes they lead to arrest

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<v Speaker 6>under existing trespass or vandalism laws, but in recent years,

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<v Speaker 6>corporations have been pushing for new laws specifically designed to

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<v Speaker 6>punish and prevent disruptive environmental protests. These laws add additional

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<v Speaker 6>jail time and fines to those already existing trespass and

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<v Speaker 6>vandalism laws. The first step towards passing those laws is

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<v Speaker 6>defining so called critical infrastructure and making sure that the

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<v Speaker 6>definition of critical infrastructure includes harmful projects like new fossil

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<v Speaker 6>fuel developments. Framing those projects as critical to the security

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<v Speaker 6>of a community or to the country helps to underpin

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<v Speaker 6>the efforts to frame opponents of dam's minds, oil pipelines,

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<v Speaker 6>or coal plants as criminal threats worthy of harsh laws.

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<v Speaker 6>Independent researcher Connor Gibson has been following that trend for

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<v Speaker 6>more than five years.

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<v Speaker 9>So last time we talked it was I want to say,

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<v Speaker 9>late twenty twenty one, early twenty twenty two, and it

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<v Speaker 9>sounds like in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 9>some more of these fossil fuel backed anti protest bills

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<v Speaker 9>have been making their way through state legislatures. So I

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<v Speaker 9>want to have you first start with a little bit

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<v Speaker 9>of like a lay of the land.

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<v Speaker 6>With these new laws that have come into the.

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<v Speaker 10>Sure, I think coming out of twenty twenty, I believe

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<v Speaker 10>the count was seventeen laws or seventeen states with laws

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<v Speaker 10>that upped the penalties for nonviolent acts of protests, usually

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<v Speaker 10>extremely targeted at fossil fuel infrastructure protest and protests at

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<v Speaker 10>fossil fuel construction sites. And obviously we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 10>protests over the Keystone Excel pipeline, the Dakota Access pipeline,

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<v Speaker 10>and Bayou Bridge and the Enbridge Line three pipeline. Those

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<v Speaker 10>are the main things that the industry had in the

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<v Speaker 10>crosshairs when they were devising this strategy to make nonviolent

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<v Speaker 10>trespass a very serious felony charge rather than a less

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<v Speaker 10>serious misdemeanor, as well as a lot of bills that

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<v Speaker 10>target organizations with conspiracy charges and fines if they're affiliated

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<v Speaker 10>with these people, in order to broaden that shilling effect.

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<v Speaker 10>In twenty twenty two, there was one state that joined

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<v Speaker 10>the trend, and that was Alabama. But in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 10>now the trend has had a resurgence and two new

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<v Speaker 10>states already passed laws this year. The first was Utah

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<v Speaker 10>and as of yesterday. A bill that was finalized in

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<v Speaker 10>Georgia is now on the governor's desk, and I imagine

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<v Speaker 10>that will not be vetoed in the state of Georgia.

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<v Speaker 10>So if my count is correct, we now have twenty

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<v Speaker 10>states with these kinds of anti protest laws on the books.

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<v Speaker 6>That was Gibson bringing me an update in April twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty three. Four months later, another state joined their ranks,

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<v Speaker 6>bringing the total to twenty one states. Those laws began

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<v Speaker 6>to proliferate in the wake of the Standing Rock protests,

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<v Speaker 6>which began in twenty sixteen and continued into twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 6>Activists were protesting the Dakota Access Pipeline, which was being

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<v Speaker 6>built to transport oil from the back in oil fields

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<v Speaker 6>in North Dakota to southern Illinois. It posed a threat

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<v Speaker 6>to water resources because it was running beneath the Mississippi

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<v Speaker 6>River and the Missouri River near the Standing Rock Indian Reservation.

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<v Speaker 11>Criminal book gets your money somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 6>In the wake of those protests, fossil fuel lobbyists helped

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<v Speaker 6>to write new legislation targeted at criminalizing pipeline protests and

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<v Speaker 6>then spread it through the American legislative Exchange Council or ALEC.

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<v Speaker 6>ALEC is a nonprofit group that connects state legislators to

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<v Speaker 6>industry groups and helps to draft and distribute industry friendly legislation.

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<v Speaker 3>Is really because we have seen more and more dangerous

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<v Speaker 3>and struct attacks going in progress.

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<v Speaker 6>This tape is not the greatest. But that's Derek Morgan,

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<v Speaker 6>who is the Senior VP of Public Affairs for the

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<v Speaker 6>American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers at the time, a trade

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<v Speaker 6>group group representing the interests of refinery and pipeline companies,

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<v Speaker 6>speaking at a conference about the critical infrastructure legislation that

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<v Speaker 6>his group helped to write. Today, he is the executive

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<v Speaker 6>vice president of the Heritage Foundation, a right wing think

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<v Speaker 6>tank that has also helped to vilify environmental protesters and

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<v Speaker 6>fight against climate action. Like others who support these sorts

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<v Speaker 6>of laws, Morgan paints things like sabotaging engines and construction

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<v Speaker 6>machinery as dangerous. But anti protest legislation is only one

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<v Speaker 6>way that governments or industries are trying to suppress environmental protest.

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<v Speaker 6>We're going to be back with a global look at

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<v Speaker 6>other tactics in just a minute after this quick break.

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<v Speaker 6>I MM Welestervelt and this is a new series from

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<v Speaker 6>the teams behind Drilled and Damages. The Real free speech

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<v Speaker 6>threat stay with US. Labeling protesters as terrorists has proven

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<v Speaker 6>to be an effective tactic for decades. It's a term

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<v Speaker 6>that has the power to transform someone using nonviolent tactics

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<v Speaker 6>to protect their ancestral homeland into a threat deserving the

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<v Speaker 6>attention of a nation's highest law enforcement or even military officials.

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<v Speaker 6>It also comes with sentencing enhancements that can dramatically increase

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<v Speaker 6>the jail time someone serves if convicted. The label often

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<v Speaker 6>requires first redefining the term violence to cover harm to

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<v Speaker 6>property in the US that was underway by the eighties.

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<v Speaker 6>Among the initial targets were Earth First anti logging activists

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<v Speaker 6>because they deployed monkey wrenching tactics like sitting in trees

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<v Speaker 6>to stop them from being cut down and sabotaging logging equipment.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's Jeremy Walker, a professor at the U University of Technology,

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<v Speaker 6>Sydney who researches various things related to the obstruction of

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<v Speaker 6>climate action.

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<v Speaker 12>One of the key activists in California was a woman

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<v Speaker 12>called Judy Barry. Judy Barry was very successful in mobilizing

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<v Speaker 12>you know protests people to come and actually occupy logging

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<v Speaker 12>operations and getting the way. And the problem with Judy

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<v Speaker 12>Barry was that she was very good at speaking to

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<v Speaker 12>the logging company's employees and the unions, and the classic

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<v Speaker 12>tactic that was used against environments, of course, saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 12>they just want to take your jobs away. But she

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<v Speaker 12>managed to win the forestry unions on side and work

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<v Speaker 12>with them towards a kind of you know, proposing a

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<v Speaker 12>kind of forestry plan. And then at some point Judy

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<v Speaker 12>Barry with a partner, got into their car and a

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<v Speaker 12>bomb exploded in their car. And interestingly enough, the local

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<v Speaker 12>police were quickly put off the case, and someone came

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<v Speaker 12>from the FBI and they charged Judy Barry. They said

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<v Speaker 12>that they accused her of carrying a bomb to blow

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<v Speaker 12>something up, and that her own bomb had gone off

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<v Speaker 12>and disabled her.

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<v Speaker 6>Barry spent the next few decades maintaining her innocence, asking

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<v Speaker 6>the police to investigate what she and her fellow activist

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<v Speaker 6>Gerald Churney said was clearly an assassination attempt, and fighting

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<v Speaker 6>to force the FBI to preserve the evidence that proved it.

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<v Speaker 6>Barry died in nineteen ninety seven, so she wasn't alive

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<v Speaker 6>to see the FBI and Oakland police eventually pay Earth

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<v Speaker 6>First four point four million dollars for violating their constitutional rights.

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<v Speaker 6>But even when activists get justice, or when the charges

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<v Speaker 6>don't stick in the first place, accusations of terrorism can

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<v Speaker 6>keep people tied up in court for years and have

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<v Speaker 6>a general chilling effect on activism. Painting environmentalists as terrorists

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<v Speaker 6>took off again in the US with the Earth Liberation

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<v Speaker 6>Front and Animal Liberation Front in the nineteen nineties and

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<v Speaker 6>early two thousands. Both groups used vandalism and in some cases,

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<v Speaker 6>arson to get their point across. Here's Earth Liberation Front

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<v Speaker 6>activist Daniel McGowan explaining it in a twenty eleven Frontline documentary.

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<v Speaker 6>You saw the mills.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you going into the forest and you stumble upon

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<v Speaker 3>a clear cut like it just blew me away.

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<v Speaker 6>Just the arrogance of it. I was like, man, this

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<v Speaker 6>is butchered.

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<v Speaker 11>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>It made me think, like, why are we being so gentle?

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<v Speaker 12>Why are we so gentle in our activism when this

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<v Speaker 12>is what's happening.

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<v Speaker 13>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>Other LF activists would explain over the years that they

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<v Speaker 6>realized that in some cases, burning down a building or

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<v Speaker 6>breaking machinery accomplished something that letter writing and other types

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<v Speaker 6>of political activism had failed to do for years, shut

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<v Speaker 6>down the activity they were trying to protest. By the

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<v Speaker 6>time ELF was at its most active, industry groups had

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<v Speaker 6>already spent years sharing information on environmental activists and the

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<v Speaker 6>movement in general with the FBI and pressuring the agency

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<v Speaker 6>to take stronger action against eco sabotage. But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>until nine to eleven and the launch of a global

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<v Speaker 6>war on terrorism that the label of eco terrorists really stuck.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a theme that has repeated itself in other places.

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<v Speaker 6>When governments cracked down on so called terrorists, environmental defenders

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<v Speaker 6>are often netted in the process. The FBI spent decades

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<v Speaker 6>hunting down ELF activists. At one point, the Earth Liberation

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<v Speaker 6>Front and the Animal Liberation Front were deemed the country's

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<v Speaker 6>primary domestic terrorism concern. Activists from those groups were placed

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<v Speaker 6>on the FBI's Most Wanted liss right along with Osama

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<v Speaker 6>bin Laden. Bin Laden, of course, was wanted in connection

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<v Speaker 6>with the September eleventh attacks that killed nearly three thousand people.

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<v Speaker 6>By contrast, neither the Earth Liberation Front nor the Animal

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<v Speaker 6>Liberation Front ever killed anyone, but the FBI justified chasing

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<v Speaker 6>after them by accusing them of a sort of economic

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<v Speaker 6>terrorism that kept logging and mining and animal agriculture companies

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<v Speaker 6>afraid that they might be the next target, that theirs

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<v Speaker 6>might be the next building set ablaze.

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<v Speaker 13>Jess's home was rated by the FBI, and then two

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<v Speaker 13>years later a federal Grand Jurian dieded Jess on multiple

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<v Speaker 13>charges and she was placed on house arrests, and in

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<v Speaker 13>her sentencing hearing in twenty twenty one, she received an

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<v Speaker 13>eight year prison sentence.

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<v Speaker 6>This is Charlotte Grubman, a researcher, abolitionist, and organizer for

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<v Speaker 6>the Free Jess Team. Jess is Jessica Resnachek, who's been

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<v Speaker 6>in jail for two years now and was laid as

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<v Speaker 6>a domestic terrorist for using welding tools to pierce above

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<v Speaker 6>ground valves along the Dakota Access Pipeline in Iowa. Many

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<v Speaker 6>of the Ochetti Shakuwan water protectors that launched the fight

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<v Speaker 6>to stop the Dakota Access Pipeline also faced harsh sentences

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<v Speaker 6>and violent police tactics and bore the trauma of watching

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<v Speaker 6>their homeland transformed into a militarized zone. With armored personnel carriers,

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<v Speaker 6>attack dogs, helicopters flying above, and an army of police,

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<v Speaker 6>National Guard members and ex military private security guards, all

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<v Speaker 6>working together to protect the pipeline. But Resnachek was one

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<v Speaker 6>of the only pipeline opponents actually convicted for terrorism.

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<v Speaker 13>And she was a domestic terrorism enhancement and was ordered

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<v Speaker 13>to pay three point two million dollars to Energy Transfer Partners,

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<v Speaker 13>which owns the Dakota Access pipeline in restitution.

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<v Speaker 6>Another activist who joined Resnachek in the sabotage, Ruby Montoya,

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<v Speaker 6>received a similar sentence. However, in the midst of the

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<v Speaker 6>grueling prosecution, Montoya flipped her defense, arguing that she'd been

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<v Speaker 6>coerced into these actions. It's an often overlooked but common

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<v Speaker 6>feature of criminalization. Under pressure from the state, movement members

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<v Speaker 6>at times turn against their former collaborators and friends, causing

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<v Speaker 6>painful and deeply personal divisions within the movement and particular communities.

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<v Speaker 6>The trend of labeling environmental defenders terrorists is only continued

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<v Speaker 6>after Standing Rock. This year, forest defenders protesting a police

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<v Speaker 6>training facility being built in Atlanta, a facility the activists

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<v Speaker 6>called copp City, were charged as domestic terrorists under a

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<v Speaker 6>Georgia law that was initially designed to respond to mass killings.

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<v Speaker 6>They included nine people whose arrest warrants accused them of

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<v Speaker 6>little more than trespassing in the woods where the facility

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<v Speaker 6>is scheduled to be built and associating with a group

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<v Speaker 6>called Defend the Atlanta Forest to Cobb County. Warrants claim

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<v Speaker 6>that the Department of Homeland Security classified Defend the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 6>Forest as a domestic violent extremist group. They used that

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<v Speaker 6>supposed classification to justify the charges against the activists. However,

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<v Speaker 6>DHS has claimed that they did not label Defend the

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<v Speaker 6>Atlanta Forests as a violent extremist group. This winter, the

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<v Speaker 6>criminalization of the Atlanta activists took a tragic turn.

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<v Speaker 7>One activist was killed by police in January, and now

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<v Speaker 7>officials are accusing others of being quote domestic terrorists. The

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<v Speaker 7>use of that charge is alarming civil liberties and human

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<v Speaker 7>rights groups across the country.

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<v Speaker 6>Some have argued that framing the forest defenders as terrorists

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<v Speaker 6>laid the groundwark for police to kill the forest defender

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<v Speaker 6>Manuel Paes di Dan, known as Tortugita. An autopsy showed

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<v Speaker 6>they were shot more than fifty d times as part

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<v Speaker 6>of a police raid on the Forest Defenders Camp. These

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<v Speaker 6>sorts of things are not just happening in the US,

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<v Speaker 6>of course.

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<v Speaker 8>We get contacted by climate activists all over the world.

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<v Speaker 6>This is Betsy Apple, a longtime human rights lawyer and

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<v Speaker 6>the executive director of a new nonprofit started solely to

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<v Speaker 6>deal with this whole global backlash against environmental advocacy. It's

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<v Speaker 6>called the Climate Legal Defense Network.

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<v Speaker 8>But right now we're working on providing support legal support

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<v Speaker 8>to people in Uganda and Tanzania, in the DRC, Democratic

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<v Speaker 8>Republic of the Congo, in Liberia, and a little bit Mozambique,

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<v Speaker 8>in Canada, in Brazil, we just hired a new person

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<v Speaker 8>to do this work.

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<v Speaker 14>In the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 8>We've provided some advice in Vietnam, fair amount of work

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<v Speaker 8>in Europe as well, in the UK and France, in Poland,

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit in Germany. And it's an ever expanding list.

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<v Speaker 6>And they're not all people getting arrested at protests applesos.

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<v Speaker 6>Both the tactics being used and the people they're targeting

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<v Speaker 6>are expanding.

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<v Speaker 8>The use of the word activists is perhaps ill advised

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<v Speaker 8>because there are lots of people who are advocating on

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<v Speaker 8>behalf of the climate and in supportive climate justice and

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<v Speaker 8>in supportive just transition to renewable and sustainable energy sources,

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<v Speaker 8>who don't even consider themselves to be activists.

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<v Speaker 14>So these people range from lawyers to journalists, to scientists,

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<v Speaker 14>to moms and dads to kids, to sort of ordinary

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<v Speaker 14>citizens all around the world who are afraid of what

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<v Speaker 14>we've done to our planet and who feel like they

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<v Speaker 14>need to take some sort of action to try to

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<v Speaker 14>address climate change.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, in some cases, labeling someone as an activist

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<v Speaker 6>is another way to silence or blunt their speech, particularly

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<v Speaker 6>when that label is applied to journalists, academics, or lawyers.

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<v Speaker 8>There's the sort of obvious stuff, the easy stuff for

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<v Speaker 8>people to understand when a protester is out in the streets.

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<v Speaker 8>For example, this past May, there were the Total which

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<v Speaker 8>is a giant French oil company which is involved in

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<v Speaker 8>lots of bad fossil fuel projects which contribute significantly to

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<v Speaker 8>climate change. Totel had its annual general meeting in France

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<v Speaker 8>in May and lots of people went into the streets

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<v Speaker 8>to protest Hotel's actions all over the world, and some

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<v Speaker 8>of those people are likely to be prosecuted for criminal

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<v Speaker 8>activity for protesting illegally. So that's a kind of clear

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<v Speaker 8>and easy example of the ways in which people who

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<v Speaker 8>are taking action to support the climate are the subject

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<v Speaker 8>of legal process. But then there are the less obvious

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<v Speaker 8>experiences that people have of the law. For example, you

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<v Speaker 8>have four, actually now five people who were advocating for

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<v Speaker 8>renewable energy policy in Vietnam and were arrested for tax

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<v Speaker 8>evasion and are in jail and have been criminally convicted

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<v Speaker 8>for tax evasion, which seems like it has nothing to

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<v Speaker 8>do with the climate, but in fact it's a way

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<v Speaker 8>that the Vietnamese government has been able to weaponize the

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<v Speaker 8>law against people who whose activities they don't like in

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<v Speaker 8>the context of the climate. And then I guess a

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<v Speaker 8>third example would be you have a youth activist in

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<v Speaker 8>Western Canada and British Columbia who is a.

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<v Speaker 14>Citizen of a South.

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<v Speaker 8>Asian country, but he's been a student in Western Canada

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<v Speaker 8>and he was a real climate leader in trying to

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<v Speaker 8>stop the destruction of old growth forests and the expansion

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<v Speaker 8>of fossil fuel infrastructure in Canada. He's been arrested multiple times,

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<v Speaker 8>and after his most recent arrest, the Canadian government decided

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<v Speaker 8>that they were going to deport him back to his

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<v Speaker 8>home country, where he indeed may face legal peril there.

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<v Speaker 8>So he's actually experiencing not only criminal process, but he's

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<v Speaker 8>experiencing immigration problems as a result of his climate activism.

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<v Speaker 6>In Central America, human rights defenders have argued that repression

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<v Speaker 6>of land and water defenders can start with defamation within

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<v Speaker 6>a community, often on social media. Sometimes that defamation is

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<v Speaker 6>ceded by outside interests. Once it starts on social media,

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<v Speaker 6>it can escalate to inflated criminal charges that force people

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<v Speaker 6>to go into hiding, and in some case it culminates

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<v Speaker 6>in an assassination made to look like an accident or

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<v Speaker 6>everyday crime. In places where the justice system is plagued

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<v Speaker 6>by corruption and impunity rules, the assassination may be shrugged

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<v Speaker 6>off by the state country by country, case by case.

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<v Speaker 6>We've watched over the past few years as governments influenced

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<v Speaker 6>by extractive industries cracked down on protests against those industries.

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<v Speaker 6>In some places it's been the norm for decades.

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<v Speaker 11>There were threats, you know, constant surveillance following people, and

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<v Speaker 11>in these struggles, many people were assassinated, many people were wounded,

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<v Speaker 11>amongst them my mother, Berta Casseres. She was murdered in

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<v Speaker 11>twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Berta Casseres was fighting against dams and mining projects in

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<v Speaker 6>Honduras when she was killed. Although Cassettis's murder in twenty

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<v Speaker 6>sixteen was initially framed as just a robbery gone wrong,

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<v Speaker 6>in twenty twenty two several executives from the company that

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<v Speaker 6>was building the damn Caseis was protesting against were convicted

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<v Speaker 6>of organizing her murder and sentenced to thirty to fifty

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<v Speaker 6>years in prison. As in Barrie's case and many others,

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<v Speaker 6>justice was a long time coming for Cassetis. What happens

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<v Speaker 6>in a lot of environmental defenders cases is that irreparable

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<v Speaker 6>damage is caused long before any kind of justice is served,

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<v Speaker 6>and even when justice does come, damage to the movement

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<v Speaker 6>in general, and the chilling effect that these sorts of

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<v Speaker 6>actions have on protest and criticism and free speech in

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<v Speaker 6>general has set in. In some countries, Fossil fuel and

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<v Speaker 6>mining interests are just such a big part of the

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<v Speaker 6>economy and have been for so long that some politicians

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<v Speaker 6>are more concerned about angering the companies leading those industries

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<v Speaker 6>than whatever backlash they may face for stripping citizens of

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<v Speaker 6>their rights. This is fine faced nominee talking about how

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<v Speaker 6>that plays out in Nigeria.

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<v Speaker 2>When there is a protect against oil company because they

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<v Speaker 2>have the resources they pay to the security operatives to

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<v Speaker 2>go and dislaunch the people that have come to carry

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<v Speaker 2>out protests against them, and as a result of that,

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<v Speaker 2>you have them abusing the rights of the people in

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<v Speaker 2>the process of that.

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<v Speaker 6>And here's former Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison showing just

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<v Speaker 6>how in the pocket of industry some politicians can be.

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<v Speaker 15>A new braid of radical activism is on the match

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<v Speaker 15>apocalyptic in Town Brooks and I compromise all or nothing,

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<v Speaker 15>alternative views not permitted. A dogma the pit cities against

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<v Speaker 15>regional Australia, one that cannot resist sneering at wealth creating

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<v Speaker 15>and job creating industries.

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<v Speaker 6>In France, long thought of as a bastion of rebellion,

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<v Speaker 6>a raised fist and solidarity with protest movements everywhere, industrial

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<v Speaker 6>agriculture interests have been leaning on the government to deal

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<v Speaker 6>with water protector protests.

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<v Speaker 16>It was at twelve thirty that we saw the gendame

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<v Speaker 16>coming to face the Blue convoy and they were driving

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<v Speaker 16>quads with motorcycle helmets on it and weapons, and when

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<v Speaker 16>they fully faced, the convoy of the quad's got off

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<v Speaker 16>to face the protestors.

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<v Speaker 6>As you'll hear in an upcoming episode, the centuries old

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 6>standoff between colonizers and indigenous peoples adds another dimension to

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<v Speaker 6>this fight.

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<v Speaker 17>In most countries, there are certain moments that really stand

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<v Speaker 17>out when you see, like there's a sign behind that

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<v Speaker 17>says protected wetland that has an Emberge symbol on it,

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<v Speaker 17>there's a DNR officer standing in front of it, and

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<v Speaker 17>then there's just this like gaping scar that's been placed

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<v Speaker 17>into the earth right next to it, clearly destroying that wetland,

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<v Speaker 17>you know, and there's the DNR right there and telling

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<v Speaker 17>you to step back.

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<v Speaker 6>But while the context and particulars may vary from place

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<v Speaker 6>to place, there are a lot of commonalities too. Suppression

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<v Speaker 6>tactics that just keep popping up almost everywhere that protests

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<v Speaker 6>are happening, and.

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<v Speaker 11>Surveillance, weaponize litigation and legal strategies, security operates, tax evasion

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<v Speaker 11>and being got charged with sedition because it was seen

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<v Speaker 11>as a big conspiracy rico.

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<v Speaker 6>Hovering above all the tactics and strategies and details is

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<v Speaker 6>a global face off. Governments are being asked to choose

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<v Speaker 6>between protecting the public, fighting for the common good, or

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<v Speaker 6>protecting capital, and so far, by and large, they're choosing

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<v Speaker 6>to protect capital and arrest the citizens who threaten it.

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<v Speaker 6>Today we released the first two episodes of this series.

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<v Speaker 6>Go listen to the other one. It's an interview with

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<v Speaker 6>youth climate activist Disha Ravi in Bangalore about her experience

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<v Speaker 6>becoming the face of radical activism in India and being

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<v Speaker 6>charged with conspiring against the government at just twenty two

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<v Speaker 6>years old. One key part of the effort to criminalize

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<v Speaker 6>environmental as activism is to dehumanize the activists themselves, to

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<v Speaker 6>paint them as fringe radicals living on the edge of society,

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<v Speaker 6>threatening us all from the shadows. It's important in that

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<v Speaker 6>context to tell the real stories of the very relatable

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<v Speaker 6>and often quite inspiring humans who are devoting their time

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<v Speaker 6>and energy, and in many cases putting their lives on

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<v Speaker 6>the line to protect the future of the next generation.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got a lot of stories for you in this series.

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<v Speaker 6>Come back next week for more. The Real Free Speech

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<v Speaker 6>Threat is a cross border reporting project from our newly

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<v Speaker 6>expanded drilled global team. Our senior editor for the series

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<v Speaker 6>is Alan Brown. Sarah Entry is our senior producer and editor.

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