1 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Now you might think of the Mounties as kind of 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: like Dudley do, right, They always get their man. They 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: ride around in the musical ride with their red jackets. 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: The Mountains make no mistake. They are a vicious colonial militia. 5 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: They were formed in order to break the backs of 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: the indigenous resistance on the prairies, to open up the 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: land to railways and western expansion by settlers. And they 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: are still doing that job here on the colonial frontier 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: in Northern VC, except these days they have helicopters and 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: attack dogs and all the rest of it. 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: The response from the authorities, like the police, whenever that 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: I say protests against oil companies, it's always different from 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: how they respond to other protests. 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: After about two hours of a standoff, they just line 15 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: up the riot squad and just marched the mean you know, 16 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: I remember them performing together. Reminded me a bunch of 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: that have puffed up turkeys. I went and then went 18 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: in and surrounded all these poor kids and started arresting 19 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: them and moving on. 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: So technically the investigation is still on and I can't 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 4: plan around it. I can't, and I don't know when 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 4: it's going to end, So I don't know how long 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 4: it will take. 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 5: When the former colonies acquired independence. In the advent of dicolonization, 25 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 5: largely after the Second World War and the advent of 26 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 5: the United Nations, the former imperial powers needed a legal 27 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 5: system to protect the economic interests of their corporations. 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 6: When I went to surrender. 29 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 7: To the FBI, I thought it was going to be kind. 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 6: Of a straightforward, more of a like a clerical matter. 31 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 8: But I ended up being put into shackles and taken 32 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 8: into custody for a good part of the day without 33 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 8: a lot of explanation of. 34 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 6: What was happening or why that was necessary. That was 35 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 6: Kainda Gata in Canada, Fine Faced Dunamini in Nigeria, David 36 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 6: Shubridge in Australia, Disha Robbie in Bangalore, Marcos, Oriana and Chile, 37 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 6: and Joanna Altman Smith in the US. Across the globe, 38 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 6: people advocating for climate action, whether they're students showing up 39 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 6: protests or lawyers arguing in court, are being retaliated against 40 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 6: by industries and politicians that feel threatened by that advocacy. 41 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 6: I'm Amy Westerwald, and over the next several months we 42 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 6: will be following this trend across borders, looking at everything 43 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 6: from the history of environmental protest and the suppression of it, 44 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 6: to the way think tanks help to push legislation that 45 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 6: criminalizes protests, to tactics used by both corporations and law enforcement, 46 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 6: from infiltrating movements to stripping environmental organizations of their nonprofit 47 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 6: status and labeling protesters domestic terrorists. For land and water 48 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 6: defenders around the world, being labeled a criminal can have 49 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 6: severe personal consequences, from social isolation to post traumatic stress, 50 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 6: to years of incarceration, and, at the extreme end, assassination. 51 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 6: Most serious repercussions fall on populations that are already routinely criminalized, 52 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 6: particularly people of color and indigenous people, especially in places 53 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 6: that have experienced colonialism in its most brutal forms. Criminalization 54 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 6: also impacts the broader climate and environmental movements, draining them 55 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 6: of vital resources and key organizers. Ultimately, our ability to 56 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 6: avoid the worst outcomes of the climate crisis depends on 57 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 6: the success of people organizing to protect the land and water. 58 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 6: To edit this series, we've brought on a reporter who's 59 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 6: been covering this issue longer than most, Alleen Brown. You 60 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 6: might recognize her name from her last gig at the Intercept. Now, 61 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 6: Alleen is an independent investigative reporter, contributing to lots of 62 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 6: different publications and publishing her own newsletter too, called Eco Files. 63 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 6: Working with Allen and with reporters on almost every continent, 64 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 6: we'll be bringing you stories that help to trace the 65 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 6: roots of this trend. We're going to highlight successful fights 66 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 6: against it as well and humanize activists that the media 67 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 6: has helped to vilify and dehumanize for far too long. 68 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 6: You might remember us talking about how this trend has 69 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: unfolded in the US in previous episodes, where we've covered 70 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 6: the rollout of so called critical infrastructure laws that increase 71 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 6: both the fines and jail time associated with trespassing near 72 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 6: anything deemed critical infrastructure, which can include anything from a 73 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 6: pipeline to a road. Environmental defenders sometimes use tactics like 74 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 6: non violent direct action or civil disobedience to prevent the 75 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 6: construction and operation of polluting projects that can involve physically 76 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 6: standing in the way of construction equipment or trespassing on 77 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 6: private property. More rarely, some activists physically damage equipment. These 78 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 6: acts cost companies money, and sometimes they lead to arrest 79 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 6: under existing trespass or vandalism laws, but in recent years, 80 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 6: corporations have been pushing for new laws specifically designed to 81 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 6: punish and prevent disruptive environmental protests. These laws add additional 82 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 6: jail time and fines to those already existing trespass and 83 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 6: vandalism laws. The first step towards passing those laws is 84 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 6: defining so called critical infrastructure and making sure that the 85 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 6: definition of critical infrastructure includes harmful projects like new fossil 86 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 6: fuel developments. Framing those projects as critical to the security 87 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 6: of a community or to the country helps to underpin 88 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 6: the efforts to frame opponents of dam's minds, oil pipelines, 89 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 6: or coal plants as criminal threats worthy of harsh laws. 90 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 6: Independent researcher Connor Gibson has been following that trend for 91 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 6: more than five years. 92 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 9: So last time we talked it was I want to say, 93 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 9: late twenty twenty one, early twenty twenty two, and it 94 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 9: sounds like in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three 95 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 9: some more of these fossil fuel backed anti protest bills 96 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 9: have been making their way through state legislatures. So I 97 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 9: want to have you first start with a little bit 98 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 9: of like a lay of the land. 99 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 6: With these new laws that have come into the. 100 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 10: Sure, I think coming out of twenty twenty, I believe 101 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 10: the count was seventeen laws or seventeen states with laws 102 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 10: that upped the penalties for nonviolent acts of protests, usually 103 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 10: extremely targeted at fossil fuel infrastructure protest and protests at 104 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 10: fossil fuel construction sites. And obviously we're talking about the 105 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 10: protests over the Keystone Excel pipeline, the Dakota Access pipeline, 106 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 10: and Bayou Bridge and the Enbridge Line three pipeline. Those 107 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 10: are the main things that the industry had in the 108 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 10: crosshairs when they were devising this strategy to make nonviolent 109 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 10: trespass a very serious felony charge rather than a less 110 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 10: serious misdemeanor, as well as a lot of bills that 111 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 10: target organizations with conspiracy charges and fines if they're affiliated 112 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 10: with these people, in order to broaden that shilling effect. 113 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 10: In twenty twenty two, there was one state that joined 114 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 10: the trend, and that was Alabama. But in twenty twenty three, 115 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 10: now the trend has had a resurgence and two new 116 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 10: states already passed laws this year. The first was Utah 117 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 10: and as of yesterday. A bill that was finalized in 118 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 10: Georgia is now on the governor's desk, and I imagine 119 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 10: that will not be vetoed in the state of Georgia. 120 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 10: So if my count is correct, we now have twenty 121 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 10: states with these kinds of anti protest laws on the books. 122 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 6: That was Gibson bringing me an update in April twenty 123 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 6: twenty three. Four months later, another state joined their ranks, 124 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 6: bringing the total to twenty one states. Those laws began 125 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 6: to proliferate in the wake of the Standing Rock protests, 126 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 6: which began in twenty sixteen and continued into twenty seventeen. 127 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 6: Activists were protesting the Dakota Access Pipeline, which was being 128 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 6: built to transport oil from the back in oil fields 129 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 6: in North Dakota to southern Illinois. It posed a threat 130 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 6: to water resources because it was running beneath the Mississippi 131 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 6: River and the Missouri River near the Standing Rock Indian Reservation. 132 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 11: Criminal book gets your money somewhere else. 133 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 6: In the wake of those protests, fossil fuel lobbyists helped 134 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 6: to write new legislation targeted at criminalizing pipeline protests and 135 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 6: then spread it through the American legislative Exchange Council or ALEC. 136 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 6: ALEC is a nonprofit group that connects state legislators to 137 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 6: industry groups and helps to draft and distribute industry friendly legislation. 138 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: Is really because we have seen more and more dangerous 139 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: and struct attacks going in progress. 140 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 6: This tape is not the greatest. But that's Derek Morgan, 141 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 6: who is the Senior VP of Public Affairs for the 142 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 6: American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers at the time, a trade 143 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 6: group group representing the interests of refinery and pipeline companies, 144 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 6: speaking at a conference about the critical infrastructure legislation that 145 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 6: his group helped to write. Today, he is the executive 146 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 6: vice president of the Heritage Foundation, a right wing think 147 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 6: tank that has also helped to vilify environmental protesters and 148 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 6: fight against climate action. Like others who support these sorts 149 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:27,119 Speaker 6: of laws, Morgan paints things like sabotaging engines and construction 150 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 6: machinery as dangerous. But anti protest legislation is only one 151 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 6: way that governments or industries are trying to suppress environmental protest. 152 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 6: We're going to be back with a global look at 153 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 6: other tactics in just a minute after this quick break. 154 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 6: I MM Welestervelt and this is a new series from 155 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 6: the teams behind Drilled and Damages. The Real free speech 156 00:10:53,400 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 6: threat stay with US. Labeling protesters as terrorists has proven 157 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 6: to be an effective tactic for decades. It's a term 158 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 6: that has the power to transform someone using nonviolent tactics 159 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 6: to protect their ancestral homeland into a threat deserving the 160 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 6: attention of a nation's highest law enforcement or even military officials. 161 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 6: It also comes with sentencing enhancements that can dramatically increase 162 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 6: the jail time someone serves if convicted. The label often 163 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 6: requires first redefining the term violence to cover harm to 164 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 6: property in the US that was underway by the eighties. 165 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 6: Among the initial targets were Earth First anti logging activists 166 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 6: because they deployed monkey wrenching tactics like sitting in trees 167 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 6: to stop them from being cut down and sabotaging logging equipment. 168 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 6: Here's Jeremy Walker, a professor at the U University of Technology, 169 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 6: Sydney who researches various things related to the obstruction of 170 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 6: climate action. 171 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 12: One of the key activists in California was a woman 172 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 12: called Judy Barry. Judy Barry was very successful in mobilizing 173 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 12: you know protests people to come and actually occupy logging 174 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 12: operations and getting the way. And the problem with Judy 175 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 12: Barry was that she was very good at speaking to 176 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 12: the logging company's employees and the unions, and the classic 177 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 12: tactic that was used against environments, of course, saying, oh, 178 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 12: they just want to take your jobs away. But she 179 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 12: managed to win the forestry unions on side and work 180 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 12: with them towards a kind of you know, proposing a 181 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 12: kind of forestry plan. And then at some point Judy 182 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 12: Barry with a partner, got into their car and a 183 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 12: bomb exploded in their car. And interestingly enough, the local 184 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 12: police were quickly put off the case, and someone came 185 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 12: from the FBI and they charged Judy Barry. They said 186 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 12: that they accused her of carrying a bomb to blow 187 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 12: something up, and that her own bomb had gone off 188 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 12: and disabled her. 189 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 6: Barry spent the next few decades maintaining her innocence, asking 190 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 6: the police to investigate what she and her fellow activist 191 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 6: Gerald Churney said was clearly an assassination attempt, and fighting 192 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 6: to force the FBI to preserve the evidence that proved it. 193 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 6: Barry died in nineteen ninety seven, so she wasn't alive 194 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 6: to see the FBI and Oakland police eventually pay Earth 195 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 6: First four point four million dollars for violating their constitutional rights. 196 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 6: But even when activists get justice, or when the charges 197 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 6: don't stick in the first place, accusations of terrorism can 198 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 6: keep people tied up in court for years and have 199 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 6: a general chilling effect on activism. Painting environmentalists as terrorists 200 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 6: took off again in the US with the Earth Liberation 201 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 6: Front and Animal Liberation Front in the nineteen nineties and 202 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 6: early two thousands. Both groups used vandalism and in some cases, 203 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 6: arson to get their point across. Here's Earth Liberation Front 204 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 6: activist Daniel McGowan explaining it in a twenty eleven Frontline documentary. 205 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 6: You saw the mills. 206 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: Are you going into the forest and you stumble upon 207 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:30,479 Speaker 3: a clear cut like it just blew me away. 208 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 6: Just the arrogance of it. I was like, man, this 209 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 6: is butchered. 210 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 11: You know. 211 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 6: It made me think, like, why are we being so gentle? 212 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 12: Why are we so gentle in our activism when this 213 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 12: is what's happening. 214 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 13: You know. 215 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 6: Other LF activists would explain over the years that they 216 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 6: realized that in some cases, burning down a building or 217 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 6: breaking machinery accomplished something that letter writing and other types 218 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 6: of political activism had failed to do for years, shut 219 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 6: down the activity they were trying to protest. By the 220 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 6: time ELF was at its most active, industry groups had 221 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 6: already spent years sharing information on environmental activists and the 222 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 6: movement in general with the FBI and pressuring the agency 223 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 6: to take stronger action against eco sabotage. But it wasn't 224 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 6: until nine to eleven and the launch of a global 225 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 6: war on terrorism that the label of eco terrorists really stuck. 226 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 6: It's a theme that has repeated itself in other places. 227 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 6: When governments cracked down on so called terrorists, environmental defenders 228 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 6: are often netted in the process. The FBI spent decades 229 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 6: hunting down ELF activists. At one point, the Earth Liberation 230 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 6: Front and the Animal Liberation Front were deemed the country's 231 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 6: primary domestic terrorism concern. Activists from those groups were placed 232 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 6: on the FBI's Most Wanted liss right along with Osama 233 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 6: bin Laden. Bin Laden, of course, was wanted in connection 234 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 6: with the September eleventh attacks that killed nearly three thousand people. 235 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 6: By contrast, neither the Earth Liberation Front nor the Animal 236 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 6: Liberation Front ever killed anyone, but the FBI justified chasing 237 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 6: after them by accusing them of a sort of economic 238 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 6: terrorism that kept logging and mining and animal agriculture companies 239 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 6: afraid that they might be the next target, that theirs 240 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 6: might be the next building set ablaze. 241 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 13: Jess's home was rated by the FBI, and then two 242 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 13: years later a federal Grand Jurian dieded Jess on multiple 243 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 13: charges and she was placed on house arrests, and in 244 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 13: her sentencing hearing in twenty twenty one, she received an 245 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 13: eight year prison sentence. 246 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 6: This is Charlotte Grubman, a researcher, abolitionist, and organizer for 247 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 6: the Free Jess Team. Jess is Jessica Resnachek, who's been 248 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 6: in jail for two years now and was laid as 249 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 6: a domestic terrorist for using welding tools to pierce above 250 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 6: ground valves along the Dakota Access Pipeline in Iowa. Many 251 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 6: of the Ochetti Shakuwan water protectors that launched the fight 252 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 6: to stop the Dakota Access Pipeline also faced harsh sentences 253 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 6: and violent police tactics and bore the trauma of watching 254 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 6: their homeland transformed into a militarized zone. With armored personnel carriers, 255 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 6: attack dogs, helicopters flying above, and an army of police, 256 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 6: National Guard members and ex military private security guards, all 257 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 6: working together to protect the pipeline. But Resnachek was one 258 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 6: of the only pipeline opponents actually convicted for terrorism. 259 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 13: And she was a domestic terrorism enhancement and was ordered 260 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 13: to pay three point two million dollars to Energy Transfer Partners, 261 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 13: which owns the Dakota Access pipeline in restitution. 262 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 6: Another activist who joined Resnachek in the sabotage, Ruby Montoya, 263 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 6: received a similar sentence. However, in the midst of the 264 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 6: grueling prosecution, Montoya flipped her defense, arguing that she'd been 265 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 6: coerced into these actions. It's an often overlooked but common 266 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 6: feature of criminalization. Under pressure from the state, movement members 267 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 6: at times turn against their former collaborators and friends, causing 268 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 6: painful and deeply personal divisions within the movement and particular communities. 269 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 6: The trend of labeling environmental defenders terrorists is only continued 270 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 6: after Standing Rock. This year, forest defenders protesting a police 271 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 6: training facility being built in Atlanta, a facility the activists 272 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 6: called copp City, were charged as domestic terrorists under a 273 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 6: Georgia law that was initially designed to respond to mass killings. 274 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 6: They included nine people whose arrest warrants accused them of 275 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 6: little more than trespassing in the woods where the facility 276 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 6: is scheduled to be built and associating with a group 277 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 6: called Defend the Atlanta Forest to Cobb County. Warrants claim 278 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 6: that the Department of Homeland Security classified Defend the Atlanta 279 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 6: Forest as a domestic violent extremist group. They used that 280 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 6: supposed classification to justify the charges against the activists. However, 281 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 6: DHS has claimed that they did not label Defend the 282 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 6: Atlanta Forests as a violent extremist group. This winter, the 283 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 6: criminalization of the Atlanta activists took a tragic turn. 284 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 7: One activist was killed by police in January, and now 285 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 7: officials are accusing others of being quote domestic terrorists. The 286 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 7: use of that charge is alarming civil liberties and human 287 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 7: rights groups across the country. 288 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 6: Some have argued that framing the forest defenders as terrorists 289 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 6: laid the groundwark for police to kill the forest defender 290 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 6: Manuel Paes di Dan, known as Tortugita. An autopsy showed 291 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 6: they were shot more than fifty d times as part 292 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 6: of a police raid on the Forest Defenders Camp. These 293 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 6: sorts of things are not just happening in the US, 294 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 6: of course. 295 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 8: We get contacted by climate activists all over the world. 296 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 6: This is Betsy Apple, a longtime human rights lawyer and 297 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 6: the executive director of a new nonprofit started solely to 298 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 6: deal with this whole global backlash against environmental advocacy. It's 299 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 6: called the Climate Legal Defense Network. 300 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 8: But right now we're working on providing support legal support 301 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 8: to people in Uganda and Tanzania, in the DRC, Democratic 302 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 8: Republic of the Congo, in Liberia, and a little bit Mozambique, 303 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 8: in Canada, in Brazil, we just hired a new person 304 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 8: to do this work. 305 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 14: In the Philippines. 306 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 8: We've provided some advice in Vietnam, fair amount of work 307 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 8: in Europe as well, in the UK and France, in Poland, 308 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 8: a little bit in Germany. And it's an ever expanding list. 309 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 6: And they're not all people getting arrested at protests applesos. 310 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 6: Both the tactics being used and the people they're targeting 311 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 6: are expanding. 312 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 8: The use of the word activists is perhaps ill advised 313 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 8: because there are lots of people who are advocating on 314 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 8: behalf of the climate and in supportive climate justice and 315 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 8: in supportive just transition to renewable and sustainable energy sources, 316 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 8: who don't even consider themselves to be activists. 317 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 14: So these people range from lawyers to journalists, to scientists, 318 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 14: to moms and dads to kids, to sort of ordinary 319 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 14: citizens all around the world who are afraid of what 320 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 14: we've done to our planet and who feel like they 321 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 14: need to take some sort of action to try to 322 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 14: address climate change. 323 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 6: In fact, in some cases, labeling someone as an activist 324 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 6: is another way to silence or blunt their speech, particularly 325 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 6: when that label is applied to journalists, academics, or lawyers. 326 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 8: There's the sort of obvious stuff, the easy stuff for 327 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 8: people to understand when a protester is out in the streets. 328 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 8: For example, this past May, there were the Total which 329 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 8: is a giant French oil company which is involved in 330 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 8: lots of bad fossil fuel projects which contribute significantly to 331 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 8: climate change. Totel had its annual general meeting in France 332 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 8: in May and lots of people went into the streets 333 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 8: to protest Hotel's actions all over the world, and some 334 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 8: of those people are likely to be prosecuted for criminal 335 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 8: activity for protesting illegally. So that's a kind of clear 336 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 8: and easy example of the ways in which people who 337 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 8: are taking action to support the climate are the subject 338 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 8: of legal process. But then there are the less obvious 339 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 8: experiences that people have of the law. For example, you 340 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 8: have four, actually now five people who were advocating for 341 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 8: renewable energy policy in Vietnam and were arrested for tax 342 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 8: evasion and are in jail and have been criminally convicted 343 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 8: for tax evasion, which seems like it has nothing to 344 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 8: do with the climate, but in fact it's a way 345 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 8: that the Vietnamese government has been able to weaponize the 346 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 8: law against people who whose activities they don't like in 347 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 8: the context of the climate. And then I guess a 348 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 8: third example would be you have a youth activist in 349 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 8: Western Canada and British Columbia who is a. 350 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 14: Citizen of a South. 351 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 8: Asian country, but he's been a student in Western Canada 352 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 8: and he was a real climate leader in trying to 353 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 8: stop the destruction of old growth forests and the expansion 354 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 8: of fossil fuel infrastructure in Canada. He's been arrested multiple times, 355 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 8: and after his most recent arrest, the Canadian government decided 356 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 8: that they were going to deport him back to his 357 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 8: home country, where he indeed may face legal peril there. 358 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 8: So he's actually experiencing not only criminal process, but he's 359 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 8: experiencing immigration problems as a result of his climate activism. 360 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 6: In Central America, human rights defenders have argued that repression 361 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 6: of land and water defenders can start with defamation within 362 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 6: a community, often on social media. Sometimes that defamation is 363 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 6: ceded by outside interests. Once it starts on social media, 364 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 6: it can escalate to inflated criminal charges that force people 365 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 6: to go into hiding, and in some case it culminates 366 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 6: in an assassination made to look like an accident or 367 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 6: everyday crime. In places where the justice system is plagued 368 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 6: by corruption and impunity rules, the assassination may be shrugged 369 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 6: off by the state country by country, case by case. 370 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 6: We've watched over the past few years as governments influenced 371 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 6: by extractive industries cracked down on protests against those industries. 372 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 6: In some places it's been the norm for decades. 373 00:25:53,280 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 11: There were threats, you know, constant surveillance following people, and 374 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 11: in these struggles, many people were assassinated, many people were wounded, 375 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 11: amongst them my mother, Berta Casseres. She was murdered in 376 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 11: twenty sixteen. 377 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 6: Berta Casseres was fighting against dams and mining projects in 378 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 6: Honduras when she was killed. Although Cassettis's murder in twenty 379 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 6: sixteen was initially framed as just a robbery gone wrong, 380 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty two several executives from the company that 381 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 6: was building the damn Caseis was protesting against were convicted 382 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 6: of organizing her murder and sentenced to thirty to fifty 383 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 6: years in prison. As in Barrie's case and many others, 384 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 6: justice was a long time coming for Cassetis. What happens 385 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 6: in a lot of environmental defenders cases is that irreparable 386 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 6: damage is caused long before any kind of justice is served, 387 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 6: and even when justice does come, damage to the movement 388 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 6: in general, and the chilling effect that these sorts of 389 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 6: actions have on protest and criticism and free speech in 390 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 6: general has set in. In some countries, Fossil fuel and 391 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 6: mining interests are just such a big part of the 392 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 6: economy and have been for so long that some politicians 393 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 6: are more concerned about angering the companies leading those industries 394 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 6: than whatever backlash they may face for stripping citizens of 395 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 6: their rights. This is fine faced nominee talking about how 396 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 6: that plays out in Nigeria. 397 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: When there is a protect against oil company because they 398 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 2: have the resources they pay to the security operatives to 399 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: go and dislaunch the people that have come to carry 400 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: out protests against them, and as a result of that, 401 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: you have them abusing the rights of the people in 402 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: the process of that. 403 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 6: And here's former Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison showing just 404 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 6: how in the pocket of industry some politicians can be. 405 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 15: A new braid of radical activism is on the match 406 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 15: apocalyptic in Town Brooks and I compromise all or nothing, 407 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 15: alternative views not permitted. A dogma the pit cities against 408 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 15: regional Australia, one that cannot resist sneering at wealth creating 409 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 15: and job creating industries. 410 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 6: In France, long thought of as a bastion of rebellion, 411 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 6: a raised fist and solidarity with protest movements everywhere, industrial 412 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 6: agriculture interests have been leaning on the government to deal 413 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 6: with water protector protests. 414 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 16: It was at twelve thirty that we saw the gendame 415 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 16: coming to face the Blue convoy and they were driving 416 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 16: quads with motorcycle helmets on it and weapons, and when 417 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 16: they fully faced, the convoy of the quad's got off 418 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 16: to face the protestors. 419 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 6: As you'll hear in an upcoming episode, the centuries old 420 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 6: standoff between colonizers and indigenous peoples adds another dimension to 421 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 6: this fight. 422 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 17: In most countries, there are certain moments that really stand 423 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 17: out when you see, like there's a sign behind that 424 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 17: says protected wetland that has an Emberge symbol on it, 425 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 17: there's a DNR officer standing in front of it, and 426 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 17: then there's just this like gaping scar that's been placed 427 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 17: into the earth right next to it, clearly destroying that wetland, 428 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 17: you know, and there's the DNR right there and telling 429 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 17: you to step back. 430 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 6: But while the context and particulars may vary from place 431 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 6: to place, there are a lot of commonalities too. Suppression 432 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 6: tactics that just keep popping up almost everywhere that protests 433 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 6: are happening, and. 434 00:29:53,960 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 11: Surveillance, weaponize litigation and legal strategies, security operates, tax evasion 435 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 11: and being got charged with sedition because it was seen 436 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 11: as a big conspiracy rico. 437 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 6: Hovering above all the tactics and strategies and details is 438 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 6: a global face off. Governments are being asked to choose 439 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 6: between protecting the public, fighting for the common good, or 440 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 6: protecting capital, and so far, by and large, they're choosing 441 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 6: to protect capital and arrest the citizens who threaten it. 442 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 6: Today we released the first two episodes of this series. 443 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 6: Go listen to the other one. It's an interview with 444 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 6: youth climate activist Disha Ravi in Bangalore about her experience 445 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 6: becoming the face of radical activism in India and being 446 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 6: charged with conspiring against the government at just twenty two 447 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 6: years old. One key part of the effort to criminalize 448 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 6: environmental as activism is to dehumanize the activists themselves, to 449 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 6: paint them as fringe radicals living on the edge of society, 450 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 6: threatening us all from the shadows. It's important in that 451 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 6: context to tell the real stories of the very relatable 452 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 6: and often quite inspiring humans who are devoting their time 453 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 6: and energy, and in many cases putting their lives on 454 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 6: the line to protect the future of the next generation. 455 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 6: We've got a lot of stories for you in this series. 456 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 6: Come back next week for more. 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