Speaker 1: To teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camradge Edge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Flashback with Teddy
Speaker 2: and Cameron. This is the finale and the reunion.
Speaker 3: Of Orange County Season two, episode nine. Back in the day,
Speaker 3: there was only nine episodes. Shortly after that it went
Speaker 3: to eighteens, and it went to twenty five, and now
Speaker 3: I think they were averaging about twenty.
Speaker 2: This air date was March thirteenth, two thousand and seven.
Speaker 3: The not doing in two thousand and seven, Teddy br.
Speaker 2: One thousand and seven, You're still I was? I was
Speaker 2: still in the womb. No, I was living out here.
Speaker 2: I was riding horses for a living. I was married
Speaker 2: to my first husband.
Speaker 3: Was you know, can we get your first husband on
Speaker 3: the pod?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely not. He would be like, are you on glue?
Speaker 3: What do you get mine? And you get yours? We
Speaker 3: can do a whole podcast about it.
Speaker 2: All right. The synopsis of this episode is Joe and
Speaker 2: Slade attended therapy session. Shane ponders a career in baseball.
Speaker 2: Hasn't even been pondering that for a while. Sophia and
Speaker 2: Sophie and George throw a joint birthday party for their daughters,
Speaker 2: Vicky and down look to reconnect. Okay, so it starts
Speaker 2: out with Laurie having a birthday party for her daughter
Speaker 2: and George's daughter. Their families have perfectly bonded together like
Speaker 2: the Brady Bunch, except for Ashley. Ashley seems pissed all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 3: She's just hating life. But she's probably at the age
Speaker 3: where everything's so annoying, you know, like, oh, but.
Speaker 2: I have to I'd be in a pissed off mood
Speaker 2: all the time if I had to sleep or with Cat.
Speaker 3: Well, that's her choice, yeah, I mean, but definitely her choice.
Speaker 3: But back in the day when they had birthday parties
Speaker 3: and bowling alleys, I.
Speaker 2: Had Dove's birthday party was at a bowling alley this year,
Speaker 2: was it.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's a new type of bowling alley. Was
Speaker 3: it cosmic bowllying or I think.
Speaker 2: There was no, but it was. It is a little
Speaker 2: bit of a There wasn't a separate room, there's tables,
Speaker 2: there's all the things. I mean this pretty much how
Speaker 2: I throw a birthday party is I'm like, listen, I
Speaker 2: need to know who friend of whatever kid the birthday
Speaker 2: that I'm having is the same time, and then I'm
Speaker 2: going to latch onto it so I don't have to
Speaker 2: throw the party myself.
Speaker 3: He skates a half. Yeah, Ava just had a birthday
Speaker 3: party and it was at roller skating rink. Oh see,
Speaker 3: we're bringing it back, bringing back to old school.
Speaker 2: So we're back at the birthday party at the bowling Alley.
Speaker 2: Ashley says that no matter what, Josh is not moving in.
Speaker 2: Josh says that he does not get to decide that.
Speaker 2: Do you think that being on the show had an
Speaker 2: extra negative impact on Josh or you think it was
Speaker 2: gonna be hard for him regardless.
Speaker 3: I think it was gonna be hard for him regardless.
Speaker 3: It's hard to say it really is. I think that
Speaker 3: he's been troubled even to this day. It's really sad. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's I mean, probably TV didn't help him.
Speaker 2: But I do love seeing their family kind of grow
Speaker 2: and build together. Knowing that they're still together, they're still
Speaker 2: each other. That's huge.
Speaker 3: We need to get Lori on the pod next. I
Speaker 3: know she's on next season. Oh you know what her
Speaker 3: wedding might be next season season three. I attended her
Speaker 3: wedding with my ex and it was beautiful. It was
Speaker 3: in their backyard. They have grounds in San Luan.
Speaker 2: Because we'll be well before we get into covering season three,
Speaker 2: we go back to cover Beverly Hills. Yeah, so are
Speaker 2: we on season two of Beverly Hills for next flashback?
Speaker 3: Yes? Oh that is correct, Teddy Joe, correct.
Speaker 2: That is correct. A moon though. Then we are back
Speaker 2: in Codo to watch Joe cooking for Slate with her
Speaker 2: baby voice. Slade says Joe doesn't need her anymore and
Speaker 2: that they don't feel like boyfriend and girlfriend anymore. Slade
Speaker 2: tells Joe that she's been treating him like crap and
Speaker 2: that she doesn't care about anything he does for her
Speaker 2: and that she doesn't respect him. He also says Joe
Speaker 2: is a different person now. Joe tells him to love
Speaker 2: it or leave it. We're going to have Joe on
Speaker 2: next week so we can ask her additional questions about
Speaker 2: the relationship. But I do you know, I.
Speaker 3: Like she regrets that relationship. No, I think.
Speaker 2: It's dysfunctional as it seemed. I think that there must
Speaker 2: have been good parts of it for her to even
Speaker 2: be there, because she doesn't seem super interested in being on.
Speaker 3: Reality TV or she doesn't, which is really surprising for
Speaker 3: a twenty five year old girl to be on reality
Speaker 3: TV and basically just choose to go live in LA
Speaker 3: and you know, walk away from what is now a
Speaker 3: very popular reality show.
Speaker 2: But she probably didn't know that. I mean, hell, she's
Speaker 2: sitting there whipping up a bullegn aze white dressed in
Speaker 2: scarf and uggs like she didn't know what was going
Speaker 2: to come of this.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but even I mean, I just feel
Speaker 3: like anybody that's never been on TV and they get
Speaker 3: on TV show, they're like, oh my god, I'm famous.
Speaker 2: But I think she thought her music career was going
Speaker 2: to probably take over from that, you know, that was
Speaker 2: going to be the bigger thing. Then Shane is home
Speaker 2: resting from his back injury. It's been a wake up
Speaker 2: call not having baseball in his life anymore. Gina worries
Speaker 2: Shane won't have the skills to fall back on something
Speaker 2: of his baseball career fails. Do you think that Gena's
Speaker 2: too lenient towards Shane?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do. I mean the dad definitely not.
Speaker 3: But I don't think Shane's career ever took off in baseball,
Speaker 3: and he had so much pressure.
Speaker 2: Then Vicky and Gina go out to dinner. Gina tells
Speaker 2: Vicky that she treats Don the way she treats Matt
Speaker 2: and they both need to make changes. Gina treats Matt
Speaker 2: like the mail man. I don't necessarily agree with Gina
Speaker 2: on this. I from what I've seen, it seems like
Speaker 2: Matt isn't very kind to Gina and she's just ignoring it.
Speaker 2: Then Vicky says she is independent and doesn't think she
Speaker 2: needs a man, but knows Don is her rock and
Speaker 2: she needs him in her life. Gina says, Matt sman's
Speaker 2: two hundred nights of the year in a hotel. When
Speaker 2: he gets home, he just wants to sit at home.
Speaker 2: What is he doing two hundred nights of the year
Speaker 2: in a hotel?
Speaker 3: That is one thing I'm not quite clear on. I
Speaker 3: don't know what he was doing to be in a
Speaker 3: hotel all the time. But let's just talk about Don.
Speaker 3: Poor Don. I mean, he really is a great guy.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a great husband. He's a
Speaker 3: great guy, and I know Vicky wished it would have
Speaker 3: worked out after.
Speaker 2: Well, watching Vicky say she would never cheat on Don,
Speaker 2: but then finding out that she cheats on on with Brooks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think at this moment Vicky started talking
Speaker 3: with Brooks and carrying on with Brooks. And I think
Speaker 3: at one point like her daughter got wind of it,
Speaker 3: like I saw a message or herd a call or something.
Speaker 2: How long was Brooks in the picture, because remember I
Speaker 2: didn't watch all these originally, so it's like my first
Speaker 2: time watching. I thought Books just came that season. Now.
Speaker 3: No, they had known each other for a long time,
Speaker 3: and I think that Brooks was in the insurance business too,
Speaker 3: so they Vicky would travel a lot, so I think
Speaker 3: that they would meet up when they traveled. Oh, I
Speaker 3: neither one of them were great. In fact, I was
Speaker 3: in dig Bear over the weekend and I was with
Speaker 3: a woman and Bitlve's out there and she said, I
Speaker 3: used to work at home Depot with Down. He was
Speaker 3: like an executive for Home Depot. And I go, oh,
Speaker 3: my god, he's so great, because he's great, but let
Speaker 3: me tell you was not a good husband.
Speaker 2: Oh so you think they were both stay.
Speaker 3: Oh with the other bostum on.
Speaker 2: But you see when they go out to their dinner,
Speaker 2: this part was sweet, Like how excited Vicky was that
Speaker 2: Don planned something for them that you do see that
Speaker 2: like that happens in a lot of relationships where you
Speaker 2: just want the other person to like take initiative. And
Speaker 2: they're kind of having Levey Devey moments. They go to Catalina,
Speaker 2: Don says He's made all the plans. Vicky's so happy
Speaker 2: about that. But kind of watching it back, does it
Speaker 2: make you think that they could have made it work?
Speaker 3: No? No, no, it was Their relationship is long gone.
Speaker 3: I mean to see them hold hands on camera is like,
Speaker 3: I don't think I ever even saw them kiss or anything.
Speaker 2: How many seasons were you on with them as a
Speaker 2: married couple.
Speaker 3: Had to have been at least three or four. So
Speaker 3: I was on with Simon for three years and I
Speaker 3: divorced him before she divorced Dawn.
Speaker 2: I can't believe we're going to get into all that.
Speaker 2: I can't. I cannot.
Speaker 3: I never even thought about the Simon part of it.
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about my bad white, broken off hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, were your banks banks?
Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying, And my baby wait,
Speaker 3: because Sophia was only like, I don't know, a year
Speaker 3: and a half when I started filming Crazy.
Speaker 4: It was that long ago. That is crazy.
Speaker 2: Then Joe en Slade plan on seeing a relationship counselor,
Speaker 2: which this relationship counselor like gave me anxiety?
Speaker 3: I am so, I mean just goes to show. They've
Speaker 3: even been showing therapy sessions and counseling sessions on Housewives
Speaker 3: for eighteen years.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think therapy is an important thing
Speaker 2: that people I don't want to see it, but when
Speaker 2: it so your very first appointment and your very last appointment,
Speaker 2: it doesn't really track. Like if you're authentically going to
Speaker 2: therapy and the person knows you, but if not. This
Speaker 2: gal just seemed like she was friends of Slade and
Speaker 2: she came on to make Joe feel like an asshole.
Speaker 2: But Slade says he's fifty percent committed and Joe is
Speaker 2: not committed at all. She's a two out of ten.
Speaker 2: Then she says that she's a nine, an eight or
Speaker 2: nine committed, and I'm like, huh, no, girl, your actions
Speaker 2: are showing different. Do you think Slade is more worried
Speaker 2: about staying on the show than breaking up because if
Speaker 2: he broke up with Joe, his job is over. However,
Speaker 2: on one of the reunions, and I can't wait to
Speaker 2: get to it.
Speaker 3: He said, he quit the show. Andy said, dude, you
Speaker 3: didn't quit the show.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't quit you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you weren't with anybody on the show, but I
Speaker 3: quit no.
Speaker 2: Like Listen, the one thing that I do know for
Speaker 2: sure is they both were one hundred percent committed to
Speaker 2: being on television Season two County, and that's what they
Speaker 2: showed us here. Then we get to the barbecue. Joe
Speaker 2: arrives alone to Vicky's barbecue and Slade brings a date, Janice.
Speaker 3: Who or yes, Janie? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: What somebody dick move? Well not just a dick move,
Speaker 2: but what are your thoughts when you are like the
Speaker 2: other woman and you come in and you're dressed like
Speaker 2: so over the top? Like, what would you do if
Speaker 2: you were the other woman and you were coming in
Speaker 2: you were in that situation, would you come in like
Speaker 2: sexy and over the top or would you come in
Speaker 2: and just try to be like the cool casual background.
Speaker 3: I would try to be the cool casual with a
Speaker 3: little bit of sex appeal, and I would have had
Speaker 3: my makeup done.
Speaker 2: Slade says, you know they're not a couple. Joe says,
Speaker 2: she didn't bring a date out of respect to Slade.
Speaker 2: Laurie says, Slade thrives on drama. He thinks he's the
Speaker 2: next housewife. Which it's funny that they even that back.
Speaker 3: Back then, right, and then I mean, how long had
Speaker 3: it been since they really officially broke up? That this
Speaker 3: backyard barbecue is happening for the season finale and he
Speaker 3: decided to bring a date.
Speaker 2: Well, he decides to bring a date, and then Gina
Speaker 2: asks if the date is a rented date, and Vicky
Speaker 2: says he thinks he paid for I wonder what you
Speaker 2: know Janice is thinking watching this back.
Speaker 3: I know now, if you were Joe, would have you
Speaker 3: introduced yourself to Janie?
Speaker 2: I maybe would have, but I absolutely would not have
Speaker 2: done it the way that she did it, with the
Speaker 2: dog and the baby voice and the awkward waving with
Speaker 2: the thing. I would have just been like, Hi, hi, slide,
Speaker 2: good to see you, Nice to meet you. I'm Joe
Speaker 2: and moved it along.
Speaker 3: But I think she took her Louis Vuitton that was
Speaker 3: all beat up, and she says she's walking, she's leaving,
Speaker 3: and the next thing you know, we see her in
Speaker 3: the grotto with Shane.
Speaker 2: It was it was very confusing to me, the timing,
Speaker 2: but no, the whole hello, Like I was like, no, Joe, yes,
Speaker 2: you can go up and say hi if you want
Speaker 2: to kind of stick it to him like that you're
Speaker 2: the bigger person. But then don't pretend that you're not
Speaker 2: awkward doing it for just a second.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But and that was her exit out of the show,
Speaker 3: and then she did get a spinoff. Bravo was clearly
Speaker 3: not done with her.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch that. Apparently it's called Date
Speaker 2: My Ex, which.
Speaker 3: I thought meant that not a bad concept, not.
Speaker 2: A bad concept. But they often talk about at this party,
Speaker 2: Vicky at the party, trying to get people to drink
Speaker 2: and wanting to control the cooking. This is the Vicky
Speaker 2: I love to see.
Speaker 3: Well me too. Vicky is controlling. That's who she is.
Speaker 3: There's no changing in her. And I love a girl
Speaker 3: that has a plan. That's the one thing. One thing
Speaker 3: that me and Vicky have always bonded over is we're
Speaker 3: both really good with her money. We're both very organized.
Speaker 3: We don't make frivolous you know, purcha Yeah, like we're
Speaker 3: just really I don't know, I mean, we're not that
Speaker 3: close in age, but you know, more geared towards the future,
Speaker 3: saving money. So I like that about her.
Speaker 2: No, I like it. And as we get into the reunion,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about kind of her recaps on watching herself,
Speaker 2: But then it's already over. We're at the end credits.
Speaker 2: Shane recently returned to the Oakland A's minor league team.
Speaker 2: He and Joe continue to talk. However, they both insist
Speaker 2: they are just friends. Gina and Matt are still together,
Speaker 2: living under the same roof. Joe has moved out of
Speaker 2: the apartment with JJ and now lives alone in La
Speaker 2: She is still looking for a recording deal.
Speaker 3: We need to have a feeling those friends with j Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I have a feeling that he had a falling out. Now,
Speaker 3: did you notice that everybody got their own eulogy? I
Speaker 3: was called the eulogy. I know it's always called but everybody,
Speaker 3: even the kids, they give an update at the you know,
Speaker 3: nowadays it's just the housewife. They show the picture, they
Speaker 3: play the music, and now Tamra's happily ever after living
Speaker 3: in her house in San Clemente. You know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like every single kid got ever.
Speaker 2: Well, before we even get to that question, because Gina's
Speaker 2: daughter kept saying she never has seen Gina and well
Speaker 2: her mom and dad kissed, and that she kept saying
Speaker 2: that she should leave him. Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 2: Did you ever see them kiss?
Speaker 3: No? No, they were not together like when you see
Speaker 3: them filming. They're really not together. He just has an
Speaker 3: injury and has a room at the house and she
Speaker 3: kind of keeps an eye on him.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well, the end credits still were. Gina and
Speaker 2: Matt are still together, living under the same roof. Slade
Speaker 2: is now Joe's manager. He planned what he plans to
Speaker 2: move to la into his own apartment. I miss this part.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that ever happened.
Speaker 2: I don't believe this to be true. Yeah, he was
Speaker 2: just hoping that would be in the OC Burden Way compation.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Lourie and George planning to get married in the spring.
Speaker 2: Ashley still lives in Laurie's townhouse, only now she pays
Speaker 2: the rent, the water bell and cleans up after the cat.
Speaker 2: That may also not be true. Tammy and Duff remain
Speaker 2: broken up. She's still dating the new guy she brought
Speaker 2: to Vicky's party.
Speaker 3: She dated him a while and I'm trying when I
Speaker 3: saw him, like, oh god, how do I know? I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. They did date a while, and I
Speaker 3: remember seeing them out together. I think I wouldn't break
Speaker 3: his name.
Speaker 2: I think I would have picked deaf.
Speaker 3: Deaf is kind of goofy.
Speaker 2: Megan and Roman never got back together. All those has
Speaker 2: the tattoo about the pitbulls, and then Vicky is trying
Speaker 2: to control her control issues. That is the end of
Speaker 2: season two.
Speaker 3: But but the riveting, riveting TV of a reunion and
Speaker 3: they don't even call it reunion. They call it watch
Speaker 3: what happened? We want to watch reunion? Yeah, which which
Speaker 3: I think sparked what what Happens Live?
Speaker 2: Well, the thing I have a question about is how
Speaker 2: mad do we think Vicky was that she was fourth
Speaker 2: down the line in seats or was this before any
Speaker 2: seat hierarchy started?
Speaker 3: Oh I'm not sure. How was it last year? The
Speaker 3: first season? Did they do it in Vicky's backyard?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But Andy wasn't even there.
Speaker 3: Andy wasn't there, That's right, they were just being asked
Speaker 3: questions by the producer. So two thousand and seven was
Speaker 3: Andy's very first reunion.
Speaker 2: I mean between Andy's hair and saying Bravo TV dot
Speaker 2: Com eighty two times.
Speaker 3: Because everything was done through the website. We didn't have
Speaker 3: we had we were MySpace transitioning into Facebook in two
Speaker 3: thousand and seven. I believe.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just hilarious. Well, Bravo TV dot
Speaker 2: Com said, and Bravo TV. I'm like Bravo TV dot
Speaker 2: com the t before TMZ. Yeah, but I.
Speaker 3: Think that's where people would send in their questions.
Speaker 2: That's so funny. But nobody seems to grow old in OC.
Speaker 2: Vicky says there's a pressure to stay young looking and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of competition. In OC. Joe is regretful.
Speaker 2: Joe has blonde hair, but she's also regretful of her
Speaker 2: boob job and is getting reduction. Vicky had a boob
Speaker 2: reduction three years ago. Tammy thinks you should wait until
Speaker 2: you're older to decide if you want a boob job.
Speaker 2: What do you think the appropriate age to get a
Speaker 2: boob job is?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think it's ideal to have a
Speaker 3: boob job after you have kids. But you know, some
Speaker 3: girls in their twenties and not really going to have
Speaker 3: kids still the later and they want boob jobs. More
Speaker 3: power to them. I just think that they should, you know,
Speaker 3: be over the age of eighteen. For sure.
Speaker 2: It's totally consistent to Andy always asking the ladies what
Speaker 2: work they have had done, So even back then, he
Speaker 2: was the question. Joe says she and Slade are still
Speaker 2: broken up but remain friends. Joe says, Slade called himself
Speaker 2: the sixth housewife. This is even more embarrassing than somebody
Speaker 2: calling you I want to be housewife.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't that give you just an ick feeling if
Speaker 3: your man called himself the sixth housewife? Ugh, yuck, You're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. And the douche award goes too well.
Speaker 2: The douche word was kind of a combo between Slade
Speaker 2: and Shane. But Shane, Yeah, they say that. Joe says,
Speaker 2: nothing went on with Shane.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that.
Speaker 2: I don't believe it either. Vicky says she's in control
Speaker 2: and she hopes the people in her life just know
Speaker 2: she just wants what's best for them. You know what,
Speaker 2: Honestly Vicky's saying, I am saying, I'm just I'm not controlling.
Speaker 3: I'm just it's just the way you guys, It's just
Speaker 3: the way you guys go about it now.
Speaker 2: I'm curious, do you have like a type that you
Speaker 2: like Tam that you really because apparently you like control freaks.
Speaker 3: I like everybody. I'm an equal opportunist.
Speaker 5: Mm hm.
Speaker 2: When I think Tam or I think somebody that loves everyone.
Speaker 3: I would I would not want to be with a
Speaker 3: control freak. No, it would. Eddie's definitely more controlling than
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: But like I I got to tell you, if somebody
Speaker 2: was cooking, I wouldn't be controlling that.
Speaker 3: No. No, Eddie cooks. Yes, he can over that job.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't like to cook.
Speaker 2: I don't need to micromanage any household.
Speaker 3: But he doesn't do dishes. Oh he will not. He'll cook,
Speaker 3: but he does not do the dishes.
Speaker 2: Then, Gina says she was offended in shocked to see
Speaker 2: Shane called Tammy tits and that it was out of
Speaker 2: character for him.
Speaker 3: I had a character for him.
Speaker 2: I was confused. But then also, I love all the
Speaker 2: discussion about the underage kids drinking. I'm like time some change. Granted,
Speaker 2: we probably drank around that same age, so it's not
Speaker 2: shocking that they drank. It's just shocking that we watch
Speaker 2: it and debate it on television.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't drink until well into my twenties.
Speaker 2: Oh I did. I drank in high school.
Speaker 3: Thanks, I mean I had one time where I drank
Speaker 3: and threw up, and so I'm never doing this again.
Speaker 2: That lasted Lourie. She is her children's friend and she
Speaker 2: needs to parent more. Laurie says Josh is very unstable
Speaker 2: right now and they have barely been in contact since
Speaker 2: he turned to eighteen. Laurie gave him a car and
Speaker 2: let him live in the towhouse. But two weeks and
Speaker 2: he had broken every rule, which is like no drinking,
Speaker 2: no drugs, no parties, no whatever he wants.
Speaker 3: Let's just say, every single kid on that show got
Speaker 3: away with way too much. And I don't know if
Speaker 3: it was just acting up for the cameras or they
Speaker 3: were just entitled little breads.
Speaker 2: Well, Gina's daughter really grew on me.
Speaker 3: Gina's daughter has all ways always been the best kid
Speaker 3: on the show.
Speaker 2: Like she's funny, Shels, deprecating, she can be enough of
Speaker 2: an asshole like all of it. Like I was like,
Speaker 2: I like her, and then at the reunion she was
Speaker 2: funny too. The fact that they bring all the kids
Speaker 2: onto the reunion.
Speaker 3: That is crazy. Now if you ever, like, I follow
Speaker 3: Kara and like she she's a writer. She just writes
Speaker 3: and writes just beautifully on her Instagram. Okay, a lot
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 5: She she lost her baby at birth, oh no, a
Speaker 5: few years ago, and just the stuff that she would
Speaker 5: write about him, it was just, oh my.
Speaker 3: God, such a great writer. I heard she was writing
Speaker 3: a book.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I need to follow her and see. But
Speaker 2: it's essentially The Real Kids of OC joined. That's Kara, Shane, Ashley, Lindsay, Michael,
Speaker 2: and Brianna. Brianna says that Vicky is still controlling even
Speaker 2: though she's a sophomore in college. Michael says he was
Speaker 2: smart to move Colorado. Shane says he's no longer a virgin.
Speaker 2: Things I didn't need to know, Shane. He also claims
Speaker 2: that nothing has happened between him and Joe.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that.
Speaker 2: Would you have wanted your kids like by the time
Speaker 2: you joined, were the kids still involved?
Speaker 3: Well, you have to remember shows like Laguna Beach and
Speaker 3: The Hills were very, very popular at that time, So
Speaker 3: Bravo was trying to do a show called The Real
Speaker 3: Kids of OC and I don't know if they ever
Speaker 3: shot anything, but it just never took off. And I
Speaker 3: think this was their attempt to start launching it is
Speaker 3: to have the kids at the reunion.
Speaker 2: Well, I want to know how much the kids were
Speaker 2: getting paid to be at the reunion, because Shane's rocks
Speaker 2: and his ears actually offended me, like those huge diamonds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know for a fact that Ryan got paid
Speaker 3: season three. When we started, kids eighteen and older would
Speaker 3: get four thousand dollars every time they filmed.
Speaker 2: Four thousand dollars every time they filmed. Yeah, what about husbands?
Speaker 3: I think it was Wait, am I mistaken?
Speaker 2: That seems like a lot.
Speaker 3: It was a lot. I would say Ryan made anywhere
Speaker 3: from forty to sixty thousand dollars a year filming. But
Speaker 3: that has changed, that has stopped. So it was really weird.
Speaker 3: It was good at the time, but the husbands didn't
Speaker 3: get paid.
Speaker 2: That get paid.
Speaker 3: No, only children over eighteen got paid. Oh wow, then, actually,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. No, it was a flat rate. It was
Speaker 3: a flat rate of like forty thousand for the year.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what it was. Either way, it's kind of
Speaker 2: it was a lot of the kids got paid and
Speaker 2: not the husband's. Then we get into the Joe got
Speaker 2: a music publishing deal with Sony and is negotiating with labels.
Speaker 2: Joe says, if she could have one person's career, it
Speaker 2: would be Jessica Simpson. Like, Joe, I mean, out of
Speaker 2: all could you not have picked like, yeah, Brettney or Christina.
Speaker 3: Yeah, out of all the pop stars, Jessica Simpson. But
Speaker 3: she kind of I feel like she channeled her Jessica
Speaker 3: Simpson on the show, Oh for.
Speaker 2: Sure, and like playing like she didn't know, Like she's
Speaker 2: very smart, that gal, Like I don't know if they're smart. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then Andy asks what advice they have for housewives across
Speaker 2: America who watch this is hilarious. Vicky says, people admire
Speaker 2: but this this. He asked what advice they have? But
Speaker 2: this is not advice, Vicky, I love you, but it's
Speaker 2: not advice. But Vicky says, people admire their strength and independence.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Tammy says she wishes she had someone like them to
Speaker 2: watch growing up. Really Tammy. Joe says they redefined what
Speaker 2: it means to be a housewife. Laurie hopes the wives
Speaker 2: watching can relate to at least one of them. They
Speaker 2: all have the same hopes and fears, and they all
Speaker 2: love their kids.
Speaker 3: That was probably the best answer right there.
Speaker 2: That being said that no one person provides any bit
Speaker 2: of advice, So you can say.
Speaker 4: What do you have?
Speaker 3: A hard question? Like to answer? What would you say?
Speaker 2: What advice would I have?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 2: You can't judge a book by its cover, you know,
Speaker 2: Like that's why it's so important to watch these shows
Speaker 2: because you can see the good and the bad and
Speaker 2: the ugly. We all have highs and lows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I will say this is the end of
Speaker 3: season two. Starting season three, it's a whole new show
Speaker 3: because Tamra's completely new show. There's a new bleach blonde
Speaker 3: with broken dyed hair that is going to change everything.
Speaker 3: Who's gonna come change that?
Speaker 2: She is an iconic queen and I cannot wait to
Speaker 2: find out who it is.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't know why. I just came
Speaker 3: in and fought with everybody.
Speaker 2: So like me. So weird that that happened.
Speaker 3: I know, I don't even know how that happened.
Speaker 2: But before we get into recapping Beverly Hills season two,
Speaker 2: we are gonna have Joe Delarosa on and then we
Speaker 2: will get into Beverly Hills, So make sure that you
Speaker 2: guys keep tuning in to Flashback with the Twats