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Speaker 1: To teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camradge Edge.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Flashback with Teddy

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Speaker 2: and Cameron. This is the finale and the reunion.

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Speaker 3: Of Orange County Season two, episode nine. Back in the day,

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Speaker 3: there was only nine episodes. Shortly after that it went

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Speaker 3: to eighteens, and it went to twenty five, and now

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Speaker 3: I think they were averaging about twenty.

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Speaker 2: This air date was March thirteenth, two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 3: The not doing in two thousand and seven, Teddy br.

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Speaker 2: One thousand and seven, You're still I was? I was

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Speaker 2: still in the womb. No, I was living out here.

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Speaker 2: I was riding horses for a living. I was married

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Speaker 2: to my first husband.

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Speaker 3: Was you know, can we get your first husband on

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Speaker 3: the pod?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely not. He would be like, are you on glue?

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Speaker 3: What do you get mine? And you get yours? We

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Speaker 3: can do a whole podcast about it.

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Speaker 2: All right. The synopsis of this episode is Joe and

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Speaker 2: Slade attended therapy session. Shane ponders a career in baseball.

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Speaker 2: Hasn't even been pondering that for a while. Sophia and

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Speaker 2: Sophie and George throw a joint birthday party for their daughters,

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Speaker 2: Vicky and down look to reconnect. Okay, so it starts

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Speaker 2: out with Laurie having a birthday party for her daughter

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Speaker 2: and George's daughter. Their families have perfectly bonded together like

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Speaker 2: the Brady Bunch, except for Ashley. Ashley seems pissed all

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 3: She's just hating life. But she's probably at the age

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Speaker 3: where everything's so annoying, you know, like, oh, but.

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Speaker 2: I have to I'd be in a pissed off mood

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Speaker 2: all the time if I had to sleep or with Cat.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's her choice, yeah, I mean, but definitely her choice.

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Speaker 3: But back in the day when they had birthday parties

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Speaker 3: and bowling alleys, I.

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Speaker 2: Had Dove's birthday party was at a bowling alley this year,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's a new type of bowling alley. Was

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Speaker 3: it cosmic bowllying or I think.

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Speaker 2: There was no, but it was. It is a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a There wasn't a separate room, there's tables,

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Speaker 2: there's all the things. I mean this pretty much how

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Speaker 2: I throw a birthday party is I'm like, listen, I

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Speaker 2: need to know who friend of whatever kid the birthday

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Speaker 3: He skates a half. Yeah, Ava just had a birthday

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Speaker 3: party and it was at roller skating rink. Oh see,

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Speaker 3: we're bringing it back, bringing back to old school.

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Speaker 2: So we're back at the birthday party at the bowling Alley.

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Speaker 2: Ashley says that no matter what, Josh is not moving in.

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Speaker 2: Josh says that he does not get to decide that.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that being on the show had an

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Speaker 2: extra negative impact on Josh or you think it was

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Speaker 2: gonna be hard for him regardless.

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Speaker 3: I think it was gonna be hard for him regardless.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to say it really is. I think that

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Speaker 3: he's been troubled even to this day. It's really sad. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's I mean, probably TV didn't help him.

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Speaker 2: But I do love seeing their family kind of grow

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Speaker 2: and build together. Knowing that they're still together, they're still

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Speaker 2: each other. That's huge.

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Speaker 3: We need to get Lori on the pod next. I

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Speaker 3: know she's on next season. Oh you know what her

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Speaker 3: wedding might be next season season three. I attended her

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Speaker 3: wedding with my ex and it was beautiful. It was

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Speaker 3: in their backyard. They have grounds in San Luan.

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Speaker 2: Because we'll be well before we get into covering season three,

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Speaker 2: we go back to cover Beverly Hills. Yeah, so are

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Speaker 2: we on season two of Beverly Hills for next flashback?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Oh that is correct, Teddy Joe, correct.

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Speaker 2: That is correct. A moon though. Then we are back

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Speaker 2: in Codo to watch Joe cooking for Slate with her

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Speaker 2: baby voice. Slade says Joe doesn't need her anymore and

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Speaker 2: that they don't feel like boyfriend and girlfriend anymore. Slade

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Speaker 2: it or leave it. We're going to have Joe on

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Speaker 2: next week so we can ask her additional questions about

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Speaker 2: the relationship. But I do you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Like she regrets that relationship. No, I think.

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Speaker 2: It's dysfunctional as it seemed. I think that there must

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Speaker 3: Reality TV or she doesn't, which is really surprising for

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Speaker 2: But she probably didn't know that. I mean, hell, she's

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but even I mean, I just feel

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Speaker 2: But I think she thought her music career was going

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Speaker 2: to probably take over from that, you know, that was

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Speaker 2: resting from his back injury. It's been a wake up

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Speaker 2: call not having baseball in his life anymore. Gina worries

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Speaker 2: Shane won't have the skills to fall back on something

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Speaker 2: of his baseball career fails. Do you think that Gena's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do. I mean the dad definitely not.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think Shane's career ever took off in baseball,

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Speaker 2: Then Vicky and Gina go out to dinner. Gina tells

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Speaker 2: and they both need to make changes. Gina treats Matt

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Speaker 2: Then Vicky says she is independent and doesn't think she

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Speaker 2: What is he doing two hundred nights of the year

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Speaker 3: That is one thing I'm not quite clear on. I

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Speaker 3: Poor Don. I mean, he really is a great guy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a great husband. He's a

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Speaker 2: Well, watching Vicky say she would never cheat on Don,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think at this moment Vicky started talking

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Speaker 2: How long was Brooks in the picture, because remember I

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Speaker 3: No, they had known each other for a long time,

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Speaker 3: that they would meet up when they traveled. Oh, I

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Speaker 3: neither one of them were great. In fact, I was

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Speaker 3: used to work at home Depot with Down. He was

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Speaker 3: my god, he's so great, because he's great, but let

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Speaker 2: Oh so you think they were both stay.

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Speaker 3: Oh with the other bostum on.

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Speaker 2: But you see when they go out to their dinner,

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Speaker 2: Don planned something for them that you do see that

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Speaker 2: they're kind of having Levey Devey moments. They go to Catalina,

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Speaker 2: Don says He's made all the plans. Vicky's so happy

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Speaker 2: about that. But kind of watching it back, does it

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Speaker 2: make you think that they could have made it work?

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Speaker 3: No? No, no, it was Their relationship is long gone.

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Speaker 3: I mean to see them hold hands on camera is like,

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Speaker 3: I don't think I ever even saw them kiss or anything.

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Speaker 2: How many seasons were you on with them as a

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Speaker 3: Had to have been at least three or four. So

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Speaker 3: I was on with Simon for three years and I

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Speaker 2: I can't believe we're going to get into all that.

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Speaker 3: I never even thought about the Simon part of it.

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Speaker 3: I was just thinking about my bad white, broken off hair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, were your banks banks?

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Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying, And my baby wait,

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Speaker 2: Then Joe en Slade plan on seeing a relationship counselor,

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Speaker 3: I am so, I mean just goes to show. They've

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think therapy is an important thing

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Speaker 2: But Slade says he's fifty percent committed and Joe is

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Speaker 2: not committed at all. She's a two out of ten.

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Speaker 2: Then she says that she's a nine, an eight or

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Speaker 2: are showing different. Do you think Slade is more worried

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Speaker 3: He said, he quit the show. Andy said, dude, you

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't quit you.

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Speaker 2: Like Listen, the one thing that I do know for

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Speaker 2: being on television Season two County, and that's what they

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Speaker 2: showed us here. Then we get to the barbecue. Joe

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Speaker 2: arrives alone to Vicky's barbecue and Slade brings a date, Janice.

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Speaker 3: Who or yes, Janie? What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: What somebody dick move? Well not just a dick move,

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Speaker 2: but what are your thoughts when you are like the

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Speaker 2: and just try to be like the cool casual background.

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Speaker 3: I know now, if you were Joe, would have you

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch that. Apparently it's called Date

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Speaker 3: Well me too. Vicky is controlling. That's who she is.

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Speaker 2: Shane recently returned to the Oakland A's minor league team.

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Speaker 2: He and Joe continue to talk. However, they both insist

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Speaker 3: We need to have a feeling those friends with j Yeah,

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Speaker 3: play the music, and now Tamra's happily ever after living

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Speaker 2: Well, before we even get to that question, because Gina's

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Speaker 3: No? No, they were not together like when you see

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well, the end credits still were. Gina and

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that ever happened.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe this to be true. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Lourie and George planning to get married in the spring.

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Speaker 2: Ashley still lives in Laurie's townhouse, only now she pays

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Speaker 2: That may also not be true. Tammy and Duff remain

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Speaker 2: broken up. She's still dating the new guy she brought

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Speaker 3: She dated him a while and I'm trying when I

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Speaker 3: his name.

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Speaker 2: I think I would have picked deaf.

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Speaker 2: Megan and Roman never got back together. All those has

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Speaker 3: But but the riveting, riveting TV of a reunion and

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Speaker 3: they don't even call it reunion. They call it watch

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Speaker 3: what happened? We want to watch reunion? Yeah, which which

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Speaker 3: I think sparked what what Happens Live?

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing I have a question about is how

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm not sure. How was it last year? The

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Speaker 3: first season? Did they do it in Vicky's backyard?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But Andy wasn't even there.

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Speaker 3: Andy wasn't there, That's right, they were just being asked

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Speaker 3: questions by the producer. So two thousand and seven was

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Speaker 3: Andy's very first reunion.

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Speaker 2: I mean between Andy's hair and saying Bravo TV dot

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Speaker 3: Because everything was done through the website. We didn't have

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was just hilarious. Well, Bravo TV dot

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Speaker 3: Think that's where people would send in their questions.

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Speaker 2: That's so funny. But nobody seems to grow old in OC.

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Speaker 2: Vicky says there's a pressure to stay young looking and

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Speaker 2: Joe has blonde hair, but she's also regretful of her

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Speaker 2: boob job and is getting reduction. Vicky had a boob

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Speaker 2: reduction three years ago. Tammy thinks you should wait until

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Speaker 2: you're older to decide if you want a boob job.

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Speaker 2: What do you think the appropriate age to get a

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think it's ideal to have a

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Speaker 3: girls in their twenties and not really going to have

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Speaker 3: power to them. I just think that they should, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's totally consistent to Andy always asking the ladies what

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Speaker 2: broken up but remain friends. Joe says, Slade called himself

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Speaker 2: the sixth housewife. This is even more embarrassing than somebody

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't that give you just an ick feeling if

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Speaker 3: your man called himself the sixth housewife? Ugh, yuck, You're like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god. And the douche award goes too well.

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Speaker 2: The douche word was kind of a combo between Slade

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Speaker 2: and Shane. But Shane, Yeah, they say that. Joe says,

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Speaker 2: nothing went on with Shane.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it either. Vicky says she's in control

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Speaker 2: and she hopes the people in her life just know

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Speaker 2: Honestly Vicky's saying, I am saying, I'm just I'm not controlling.

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Speaker 3: I'm just it's just the way you guys, It's just

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Speaker 2: I'm curious, do you have like a type that you

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Speaker 2: like Tam that you really because apparently you like control freaks.

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Speaker 3: I like everybody. I'm an equal opportunist.

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Speaker 2: When I think Tam or I think somebody that loves everyone.

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Speaker 3: I would I would not want to be with a

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Speaker 3: control freak. No, it would. Eddie's definitely more controlling than

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: But like I I got to tell you, if somebody

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Speaker 3: No. No, Eddie cooks. Yes, he can over that job.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't like to cook.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to micromanage any household.

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Speaker 3: But he doesn't do dishes. Oh he will not. He'll cook,

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Speaker 2: Then, Gina says she was offended in shocked to see

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Speaker 3: I had a character for him.

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Speaker 2: I was confused. But then also, I love all the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't drink until well into my twenties.

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Speaker 2: Oh I did. I drank in high school.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, I mean I had one time where I drank

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Speaker 2: That lasted Lourie. She is her children's friend and she

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Speaker 2: needs to parent more. Laurie says Josh is very unstable

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Speaker 2: right now and they have barely been in contact since

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Speaker 2: he turned to eighteen. Laurie gave him a car and

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Speaker 2: no drugs, no parties, no whatever he wants.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say, every single kid on that show got

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Speaker 2: Well, Gina's daughter really grew on me.

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Speaker 3: Gina's daughter has all ways always been the best kid

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Speaker 2: Like she's funny, Shels, deprecating, she can be enough of

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Speaker 2: I like her, and then at the reunion she was

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Speaker 2: funny too. The fact that they bring all the kids

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Speaker 2: onto the reunion.

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Speaker 3: That is crazy. Now if you ever, like, I follow

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Speaker 3: Kara and like she she's a writer. She just writes

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Speaker 3: and writes just beautifully on her Instagram. Okay, a lot

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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 5: She she lost her baby at birth, oh no, a

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Speaker 5: few years ago, and just the stuff that she would

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Speaker 3: God, such a great writer. I heard she was writing

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Speaker 3: a book.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I need to follow her and see. But

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Speaker 2: it's essentially The Real Kids of OC joined. That's Kara, Shane, Ashley, Lindsay, Michael,

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Speaker 2: and Brianna. Brianna says that Vicky is still controlling even

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Speaker 2: though she's a sophomore in college. Michael says he was

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Speaker 2: smart to move Colorado. Shane says he's no longer a virgin.

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Speaker 2: Things I didn't need to know, Shane. He also claims

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Speaker 2: that nothing has happened between him and Joe.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that.

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Speaker 2: Would you have wanted your kids like by the time

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Speaker 2: you joined, were the kids still involved?

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Speaker 3: Well, you have to remember shows like Laguna Beach and

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Speaker 3: The Hills were very, very popular at that time, So

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Speaker 3: Bravo was trying to do a show called The Real

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Speaker 3: Kids of OC and I don't know if they ever

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Speaker 3: shot anything, but it just never took off. And I

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Speaker 3: think this was their attempt to start launching it is

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Speaker 3: to have the kids at the reunion.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to know how much the kids were

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Speaker 2: getting paid to be at the reunion, because Shane's rocks

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Speaker 2: and his ears actually offended me, like those huge diamonds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know for a fact that Ryan got paid

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Speaker 3: season three. When we started, kids eighteen and older would

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Speaker 3: get four thousand dollars every time they filmed.

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Speaker 2: Four thousand dollars every time they filmed. Yeah, what about husbands?

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Speaker 3: I think it was Wait, am I mistaken?

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Speaker 2: That seems like a lot.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot. I would say Ryan made anywhere

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Speaker 3: from forty to sixty thousand dollars a year filming. But

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Speaker 3: that has changed, that has stopped. So it was really weird.

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Speaker 3: It was good at the time, but the husbands didn't

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Speaker 3: get paid.

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Speaker 2: That get paid.

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Speaker 3: No, only children over eighteen got paid. Oh wow, then, actually,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. No, it was a flat rate. It was

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Speaker 3: a flat rate of like forty thousand for the year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's what it was. Either way, it's kind of

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Speaker 2: it was a lot of the kids got paid and

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Speaker 2: not the husband's. Then we get into the Joe got

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Speaker 2: a music publishing deal with Sony and is negotiating with labels.

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Speaker 2: Joe says, if she could have one person's career, it

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Speaker 2: would be Jessica Simpson. Like, Joe, I mean, out of

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Speaker 2: all could you not have picked like, yeah, Brettney or Christina.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, out of all the pop stars, Jessica Simpson. But

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Speaker 3: she kind of I feel like she channeled her Jessica

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Speaker 3: Simpson on the show, Oh for.

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Speaker 2: Sure, and like playing like she didn't know, Like she's

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Speaker 2: very smart, that gal, Like I don't know if they're smart. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then Andy asks what advice they have for housewives across

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Speaker 2: America who watch this is hilarious. Vicky says, people admire

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Speaker 2: but this this. He asked what advice they have? But

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Speaker 2: this is not advice, Vicky, I love you, but it's

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Speaker 2: not advice. But Vicky says, people admire their strength and independence.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Tammy says she wishes she had someone like them to

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Speaker 2: watch growing up. Really Tammy. Joe says they redefined what

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Speaker 2: it means to be a housewife. Laurie hopes the wives

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Speaker 2: watching can relate to at least one of them. They

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Speaker 2: all have the same hopes and fears, and they all

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Speaker 2: love their kids.

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Speaker 3: That was probably the best answer right there.

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Speaker 2: That being said that no one person provides any bit

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Speaker 2: of advice, So you can say.

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Speaker 4: What do you have?

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Speaker 3: A hard question? Like to answer? What would you say?

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Speaker 2: What advice would I have?

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Speaker 4: That?

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Speaker 2: You can't judge a book by its cover, you know,

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Speaker 2: Like that's why it's so important to watch these shows

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Speaker 2: because you can see the good and the bad and

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Speaker 2: the ugly. We all have highs and lows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I will say this is the end of

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Speaker 3: season two. Starting season three, it's a whole new show

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Speaker 3: because Tamra's completely new show. There's a new bleach blonde

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Speaker 3: with broken dyed hair that is going to change everything.

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Speaker 3: Who's gonna come change that?

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Speaker 2: She is an iconic queen and I cannot wait to

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Speaker 2: find out who it is.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't know why. I just came

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Speaker 3: in and fought with everybody.

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Speaker 2: So like me. So weird that that happened.

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Speaker 3: I know, I don't even know how that happened.

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Speaker 2: But before we get into recapping Beverly Hills season two,

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Speaker 2: we are gonna have Joe Delarosa on and then we

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Speaker 2: will get into Beverly Hills, So make sure that you

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Speaker 2: guys keep tuning in to Flashback with the Twats