1 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Hello, my beautiful people. 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: It's Monday, which means it's time for a brand new 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: episode of your favorite podcast, Cheese in Chill. I don't 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: know if I've mentioned this before, but I actually love Mondays. 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: I know a lot of people don't because it means 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: the weekend is over. But I really like Mondays because 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: it's a fresh start, and I love fresh starts. Today 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: we're talking about a topic that was inspired by a 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: listener named Tony. He left a voice note for us 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: on Dear Cheeky's asking me about my thoughts on Latino 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: toxic culture, specifically when it comes to comparing and contrasting 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: family members. And since this is something I've personally experienced 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: and something I've tried to put a stop to in 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 2: my own family, I thought it would be a good 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: idea to do a longer episode on this topic because 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: I do have quite a bit to say about it. 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: Let's start with my personal experience guy as a Latina, 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: as a public figure, as an entrepreneur, as a daughter, 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: a sister, a friend, I have felt the sting of 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: being talked about, compared, and torn down, not just by strangers, 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: but sometimes by people in my own community. I've heard 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: and I've read comments like gin Secre, she thinks she's 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: all that cuma ma saigulin to get there, you know, 24 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: the whole thing, or yes, Vienne, Like I have heard 25 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: so many different things, guys, I have felt it, and 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: I know I'm not alone. And sometimes the hardest battles 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: aren't with outsiders, they're with our own people, and that 28 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: kind of pain, it just it cuts different. I'm trying 29 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 2: to figure out where to start because I don't want 30 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: to make anyone look bad. But this whole idea also, 31 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: like after listening to Tony's question on to your Cheeky's 32 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: also has been something that I have kept within and 33 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: I have only talked to people that I absolutely trust. 34 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: But I've noticed with a lot of Latina influencers, how 35 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: there's like this competition or like this mean girl like 36 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: group and they expect you to support their stuff, but 37 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: when it comes to them supporting your stuff, they don't. 38 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: And I'm talking about me my stuff because I am 39 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: not one to just talk. 40 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: I am about my people. 41 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 2: I am want to always support small businesses, whether they're 42 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: Latino or not, Especiallyatino women, small businesses, women owned businesses, 43 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: and I love to see other latinas grow and I've 44 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: been in the game for a long time. And if 45 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: you guys go back on my YouTube page on Cheeky's Online, 46 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: I have videos. In two thousand, oh my gosh, I 47 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: was living at my mom's house and Encino in two 48 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: thousand and nine twenty ten, I can honestly say I 49 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: was one of the pioneers in the influencer space. It 50 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: didn't have a label then, but I was sharing all 51 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: my secrets. I would even call it Cheeky Secrets or 52 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: Cheeky's Approved, and I would share things that work for 53 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: me and it could be fajas, it could be a 54 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: self tanning thing like I did so many of them. 55 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: I was thinking about it the other day and anyway, 56 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: Then I went into becoming a singer, and apparently, or supposedly, 57 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: you can't do both. It's one or the other. And 58 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: if you're an influencer, quote unquote, you can't be a 59 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: respected singer. I've broken all the rules. I've bet them. 60 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: I've been like, no, I'm going to do whatever I 61 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: want to do. All this to say that since I 62 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: know what it's about and I wasn't getting paid then 63 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: I was on YouTube and I wasn't making a lot 64 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: of money, like I was just like wanting to share, 65 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: like I've always wanted to share everything, like you know, 66 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: like my personal experiences and just everything that works for me. 67 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not a gatekeeper, and I've noticed 68 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: that now it's different. Sometimes I feel like certain influencers 69 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: think they are better or bigger or more famous, or 70 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: they think that they are, yeah, like more than an artist, 71 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: like I not mean particular, like I don't, I really 72 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: don't care. It just makes me that instead of coming 73 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: together and making the Latino community and highlighting each other 74 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: and uplifting each other, it's like a one way street 75 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: and it's not cool and it's sad because I feel 76 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: like God has given me this platform to help other people, 77 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: and I really truly believe in sharing the blessings because 78 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: it's paying it forward. It's an energy, it's an energy exchange, guys. 79 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: And the reason I'm bringing this up because it's just 80 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: recently happened. With my book, I helped out a certain 81 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: influencer and again I have a lot of love and 82 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: respect for her, and I'm not going to say her name, 83 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: it's not necessary, but she personally reached out and said, Hey, 84 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: I'm coming out with so and so product and I 85 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: want to send it to you, and I was like, oh, 86 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: of course. 87 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: She sent it to me. 88 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: I posted it, and I was happy to post it. 89 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: I loved what she sent me. She did that twice. 90 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: She yeah, we'll just leave it at that. 91 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: She did it twice. 92 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say more because I don't want you, guys, 93 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: speculating or trying to put things together. 94 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: It's not important. 95 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: The important part is how we are going to heal this, 96 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: because it's not cool anyway. 97 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: I did it. 98 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: I supported her with her brands wholeheartedly. She didn't ask 99 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: me to necessarily, but when it came around, and I 100 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: never do this, guys, it's hard for me to. I 101 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: feel like people should do it out of the kindness 102 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: of their heart. But since she had already asked me 103 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: and reached out personally, I thought, Okay, well, my book 104 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: is coming out. She has kids. I'm going to send 105 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: her the book because it makes sense. I'll send her 106 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: a little pr package. I asked for her address. I 107 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: sent it to her and that was a month ago 108 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: and she hasn't posted it. And that's fine. I don't 109 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: need her to post it. Thank god it did well. 110 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: It's the principle, and I think why why? And this 111 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: is not the first time it happens, And it had 112 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: me thinking, am I the problem? And here I go 113 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: back to these like toxic things that we were taught 114 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: and that were. 115 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: Instilled in us. 116 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh wait wait, I'm not going 117 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: to let this affect me in that way. I know 118 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: who I am, I know where my heart is. That's 119 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: not a me problem, that's a them problem. And it's 120 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: not my business. I have to just out of mine, 121 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: out of sight and just say okay, cool now I know. 122 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: Now. Am I not going to support her next thing? 123 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 124 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to cross that bridge when I get there, 125 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: but I will tell you I'm not going to necessarily 126 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: forget that because it wasn't like it's a children's book. 127 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: It's something beautiful. It's not like a product. 128 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: Like I understand they can't post certain things because I'm 129 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: not paying them, you know, and they have other brands 130 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: that they need to prioritize. But this is a children's 131 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: book and you have kids. So it just made me sad, 132 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: and it got me thinking about this question that Tony 133 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: sent us and I'm sure you guys know the story 134 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: of the of the gangakos, which are crabs in English, 135 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: right that if you put them in a bucket and 136 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: once trying to get out, another crab comes and pulls 137 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: it down and doesn't allow it. And I feel, unfortunately 138 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: and very sadly, I have noticed, especially in my industry 139 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: as a singer, instead of helping each other rise and 140 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: that little like crab helping the other crab get out, 141 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: because then hopefully it's like a chain effect, you know, 142 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: or a domino effect, should I say a domino effect, 143 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 2: we pull each other down, either by actions or words 144 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: or talking bad. And I'm not even gonna put myself 145 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: in that because I'm not because I'm not like that, 146 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: and I do my best not to like, I'm not 147 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: gonna say we. But I have seen in the Latino community, 148 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: and I have experienced that you make it to a 149 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: certain point and instead of saying damn, that person came 150 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: from nothing and made it there. 151 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: That's tight. 152 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 2: Heck, yeah, that's awesome, it's more of like, oh, y, 153 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: you know, they're not like about it anymore. They're lost 154 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: in the sauce. And mind you, it does happen. I've 155 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: seen it, you know, but it's not with everyone. And 156 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: I think we could say, hey, if someone made it 157 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: to that point and they're able to buy themselves that 158 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: three hundred one thousand dollars car, that's tight. Hey I 159 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't necessarily do that with my money, but hey, if 160 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: that's what they want to do, that's tight. Like they 161 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: made it out of the hood or out of the barrio, 162 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. And I've noticed that. 163 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: And it's not only with that guys, it's also with 164 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: in family. It's you can't be better than me, you 165 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: can't accomplish more than I've accomplished, and it should be 166 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: the complete opposite. I want my little sister Jenica to 167 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: be better than me. I want my little sister Jackie 168 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: to be better than me. And I think that's how 169 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: parents should be as well. And it's not always like that. 170 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: And I kind of experienced it with my mom in 171 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: certain ways, and I think it was more subconscious from 172 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: her part. And I saw that in my family a lot. 173 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: And this is a very delicate subject because obviously my 174 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: mom is not here to defend herself. I think my 175 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: mom was going to support my career as a singer, 176 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: and I know the part of her as a mother 177 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: was trying to protect me and said, look, that's not 178 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: the kind of career I want for you, because I 179 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: know how hard it is, and she was right, in 180 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: our genre, it is very difficult. But then there was 181 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: that woman's side of her mind. You we were only 182 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: fifteen years apart, so I get it to a certain 183 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: extent of yeah, but I don't want there to be 184 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: a competition. It was like a It was more of 185 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: like seen as competition versus let's help each other. And 186 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 2: that happens a lot in the industry. And I'll get 187 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: back to the family thing right now, but that happens 188 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: a lot in the industry, especially in my genre. In 189 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: regional Mexican music, there has always been this idea of 190 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: there's only one spot for a woman, only one, which 191 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: is why it was so hard for me. Not only 192 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: because when I first started, I wasn't the best at singing. 193 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: I was just. 194 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: Starting, duh, but but because my mom was this monster 195 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: beast of a singer and a personality, and this persona 196 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: that people constantly compared me to her, and they weren't 197 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: giving me the opportunity of like, Okay, my mom had 198 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 2: twenty years under her belt. Of course she's sang beautifully, 199 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: but she didn't always sing that way, and so people 200 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: were very hard on me, and it was like, oh, 201 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: you want to like take your mom's place. No, I don't, 202 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: and I never will, and no one will ever take 203 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: Selena's place or Juan Gabrielle's place, or Michael Jackson's place 204 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: or John Lennon, like it just will never happen. Those 205 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: are one of one. I just want to come here 206 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: and do my own thing. But why does it have 207 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: to be that? Why the comparison? Why can't I just 208 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: be me and my mom be her? And putting that 209 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: to the side. Then once I got over that little hump, 210 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, cool, like I'm kind of 211 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: over that. Like I know my mom, if she was here, 212 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: she would freaking be the first to defend me, the 213 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: first to support me, like I know it. But then 214 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: I get in the industry, and then there are other 215 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: women that are older and have been in the game 216 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: that won't do collabse with you, or won't support you publicly, 217 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: or they talk bad about you behind your back and 218 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: give you this nice little smile in front of you. 219 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: But they're saying all these things behind your back because 220 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: you're the fresh meet. You know, you're the new kid 221 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: on the block, and it freaking sucks. The amount of 222 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: women that turn their back or turn the other cheek 223 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: or didn't want to give me the opportunity. It's crazy, 224 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: which is why I made it part of my mission 225 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: to help upcoming artists and people that I see, especially women, 226 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 2: because there has to be more of that in our community. 227 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: And I love my Latino people, don't get me wrong, 228 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: but this is not to shame our community. This is 229 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: to hopefully change and heal it because it's really freaking sad. 230 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: But that's why I was like, I'm going to mark 231 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: the difference with the music that I'm making. I want 232 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: to highlight Latinos. I want to help people. I want 233 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: to highlight the hardworking people so that hopefully I start something, 234 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 2: you know, and just to go back, because not all 235 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: women were like that, I will tell you, and someone 236 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: like Becky G. Who's Becky G. Becky G is known 237 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 2: internationally and as soon as I asked her for a collab, 238 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: there was no hesitation. And I'm so grateful for people 239 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: like that because she didn't have to and I don't 240 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: have all the streams she has. But Becky's like, yeah, 241 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: let's find the right song. And she just didn't say 242 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: it like other people do. She said it, I sent 243 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: the song and she said, out of these two songs, 244 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: this is the one I like, let's do this one 245 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: that was Jolene. Then we did with Ato cause she's like, okay, cool, 246 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: we did Joline and she put me on her album. 247 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: That is collaboration. That is true collaboration. It's not like, oh, 248 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: you're less than me, you don't have the streams I have. 249 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: Like no, she was. 250 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: About like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do this. I like her, 251 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: I appreciate her, I love her whatever the case may be. 252 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 253 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm not I can't speak for her. 254 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: But the point is she did it another and I 255 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: call her the Madrina of my. 256 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: Care is Gloria Trevi. 257 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: Gloria Trevi medio and said, hey, and I think I've 258 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: told this story here before. But on one of my 259 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: first presentations, or one of like the first ones, one 260 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: of like the the big award shows, I think it 261 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: was Permos went to, we did plosuelto because I love 262 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: that song Plo. 263 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: I know you guys know that song. If you don't 264 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: go listen to it, it's so amazing. 265 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: Anyway, I grew up listening to that song. I did 266 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: a remake and she not only allowed me to sing 267 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: her song, which is one of her popular songs, she 268 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: gave me a song, which is La Malcaria. She said, here, 269 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: I wrote this song and I want to give it 270 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: to you. Here, go do something with it. And it's 271 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: one of my popular songs. And she went and flew 272 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: to Miami and sang the song with me, and it 273 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: was one of my most iconic performances till this day, 274 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: one of my favorites. And you know, she told me, 275 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: she said, look, I know you're just starting, but I'm 276 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: not gonna make myself smaller for you, which means you 277 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: need to. 278 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: Step it up. 279 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: And I took that as like, damn, that's a mother, 280 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: that's someone that cares, that says I'm here, but I'm 281 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: going to go out there and perform my ass off, 282 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: so you better do the same. And it was such 283 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: a beautiful lesson because she didn't shrink, but she told 284 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: me come on, like she taught me something. And till 285 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: this day, I can count on that woman for anything like, 286 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: she is just amazing. So I know there are good 287 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: people in the world, there are good people in the industry. 288 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: So again I'm not talking about everyone, and there isn't 289 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: any need to drop names or try to shame anyone, 290 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: because that's not what I want to do. I just 291 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: am speaking from a place of reflection because now, thank god, 292 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: I'm strong enough to just shake it off. But there 293 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: was a time when it really did affect me and 294 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: it made me really sad, and I'm like, how can 295 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: I change this? How can I mark the difference? How 296 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: can I be better? 297 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: Now? 298 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: I'm doing it with my podcast, with my books, with 299 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 2: my music. Guys, Once you guys see the visuals for 300 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: the music, you're gonna understand it's all going to come together. 301 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: And even with this episode, guys like this is my 302 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: way of hopefully changing things, because it is a problem, 303 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: whether we want to accept it or not. And maybe 304 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: you have experienced it personally, maybe you haven't, and I 305 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: hope you have it. But we have to be better 306 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: as a community. We have to uplift one another, support 307 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: each other, and even if it's privately, doesn't have to 308 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: be publicly, but to really just embrace one another. And 309 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: not feel like this person is going to take my 310 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: place or my light, or like no. 311 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: The sun, and. 312 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: The sun comes out for all of us. We all 313 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: have a special gift. We all have something to to 314 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: give in this world that is very different from the 315 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: other person. Like we don't have to always compete. And 316 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe that's just me, it's a wish, 317 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: it's wishful thinking, but I really feel that we can 318 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: get to a place of peace when it comes to that, 319 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: and know that we can do things together without dimming 320 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: each other's light or without feeling the need to shrink ourselves. 321 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: It's not necessary. And I really feel this in my 322 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: heart because I don't want my child to go through 323 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: what I've experienced, and of course I don't can't control that, 324 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: but at least we're talking about it, and sometimes it 325 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: is a little uncomfortable to talk about it. It's not 326 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 2: always cute and pretty and peaches and cream, but this 327 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: is real stuff that is happening in the world, and 328 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 2: stuff that we need to express and deal with it 329 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: and fix it ultimately. Now let me go back to 330 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: my notes. This is why I think this happens in 331 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: our community. I think it could be colonial trauma. I 332 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: think it is. This is from freaking years and centuries 333 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: before us. So this is why we have to. 334 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: Be different. 335 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: The scarcity mindset, guys, is insane in our community, and 336 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: we have to change that. Many of us grew up 337 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: thinking there's only one seat at the table, that if 338 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: someone else wins. Exactly what we just talked about. Even 339 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: when it comes to money, it's like I constantly. 340 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: Hear I'm broke. I no, I don't, I don't, I don't, And. 341 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: I get you, like, we don't always have the funds 342 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: to get everything we want. But it's like the more 343 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: like we think we don't have enough, we don't have enough, 344 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: we will never have enough. And that's a whole that's 345 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: another episode, but anyway, let me let me keep going. 346 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: Lighter skin is praised. We've talked about that before. I 347 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 2: think I told you guys a story about my friend 348 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: Brianna and how she posted a TikTok. She has three 349 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: boys and she is light skin and you guys, I 350 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: think saw her here on the podcast when I had 351 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: the visual before. 352 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: But she's light. 353 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: She has blonde hair and she has blue eyes, and 354 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: her husband is a little darker complexed and they have 355 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: three boys, and the eldest looks a lot like his dad. 356 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 2: He's darker, brown eyes, and then the other two are 357 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: a little lighter and they have colored eyes. And she 358 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: said that she realized or noticed, should I say, when 359 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: they would go out, they would just look at the lighter, green, 360 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: blue eyed boys and kind of ignore Charlie, your oldest. 361 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: And she was talking about how much it hurt her 362 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: and how it just sucks, how we do have to 363 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: be better as a community, and it's true. 364 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean I noticed it. 365 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: Dang. I don't know if I should say this, guys, 366 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: because this is in my family. I'll just say that 367 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: in my family, with certain family members, my mom's kids 368 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: were favored because we were lighter and we were beautiful 369 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: because we were lighter versus other kids. Some of my 370 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 2: cousins and our family were called brietos or weren't loved 371 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: on as much because they were darker. And that's some 372 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: crazy ass shit, guys, Like i I'm just like, what, 373 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: it's crazy. I don't know why that is, but that 374 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: needs to stop, guys. That is insane, Like it's really 375 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: sad and we need to do better. Like that stuff 376 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 2: affects people forever. It's not cool anyway. I'm moving on 377 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: gender roles. You guys were taught to compete instead of 378 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: collaborate to be the best daughter, the wife, sister, and 379 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 2: the mom. Generational pain. Our families didn't always have the 380 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: tools to process in security, so it came out as control, 381 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: comparison or criticism. These are all things that we're breaking 382 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: down why we think that this is happening in our community. Okay, 383 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: this is inherited, it's learned, but it can be unlearned. Okay, 384 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: and this is what we're doing now. We're unlearning, we're 385 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: reprogramming because it's probably even something that happens subconsciously and 386 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: we don't mean to do it. But I think if 387 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: we speak about it the way we're doing today, it 388 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: can really start changing, hopefully God willing. You know, sometimes 389 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 2: it's subtle, sometimes it's loud, but that's what it is. 390 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: Backhanded compliments. 391 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: Hmmm. 392 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: You know, we hear a lot like or Prieto or 393 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: you know, like a lot of the Latino communities that's 394 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: kind of belitting and it's like, oh, this is just 395 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: a way of showing my love Esuncarino. It's like a 396 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: nickname out of love but like, why not call them, 397 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, like something else, something more positive. 398 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 2: I can't even think about what. But anyway, gossip is 399 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: a huge thing that is disguised as concern. Like the 400 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: gossip is crazy, guys. But this is all stuff that 401 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: adds to what I'm talking about that we need to 402 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: just be more mindful about. Dismissing another Latina success. We've 403 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: talked about that as well, competing over who has more followers, 404 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 2: more money, more beauty, more validation, more likes. Ugh, so 405 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: over that judging someone for how they talk, how they dress, 406 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: how they heal. 407 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: None of your business. 408 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: That's one thing that my life coach is teaching me again, 409 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: it's not your business what they say, what they think 410 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: about you, like, it's not your business. If they like 411 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: you or not, it's not your business. 412 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: She's right. 413 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: And it's not my business. How they do their thing 414 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: or not do their thing, it's not my business. I 415 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: gotta focus on my stuff. That's what we got to do, 416 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: you know. And these are all wounds, not facts, and 417 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 2: recognizing them is the first step to healing, guys, which 418 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: is why I wanted to talk to you guys about 419 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: this and how do we heal real quick before we end, 420 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: Before we conclude this episode, how do we heal some examples. Okay, 421 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: we shift the culture by shifting ourselves. We shift ourselves first. 422 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: It starts with ourselves. We celebrate others even when we're 423 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: still on our own journey. Check your own jealousy. Do 424 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: a heart check with compassion not shame. Say okay, wait, 425 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 2: am I jealous? 426 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: And it's okay. We all feel a little bit of jealousy. 427 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: It's okay. It's recognizing it and not letting that grow. 428 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: I get it. 429 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: I understand sometimes you feel little insecure because there's a 430 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: prettier girl standing next to us, or it's okay, we 431 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: have something special and they're beautiful and so are we 432 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: in our own way. Okay, support Latina owned businesses. Music 433 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: are healing spaces. Catch yourself when you compare and choose 434 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: curiosity instead. Go to therapy. Y'all know I'm a huge 435 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: advocate for therapy. Journal love, journaling, you pray, and we 436 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: are breaking cycles. 437 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: Guys. 438 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: We have to be intentional in wanting to break these 439 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: cycles and be better not only for ourselves and for today, 440 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: but for the generations to come. We have to keep 441 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: that in mind. Guys, and just know that our success 442 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: or your success does not threaten mine. Your success does 443 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: not threaten mine. In fact, when you win, we all win, guys. 444 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: And I know this might sound a little cliche and 445 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: a little bit like, I don't know, mystical or whatever 446 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 2: you want to call it, but it's true, guys, Like 447 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: we got to see it that way, Like it's like 448 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: when someone in the community wins. 449 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: Like that's tied. 450 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: We all freaking win, Like that's amazing, and there is 451 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: room again, there is room for all of us, and 452 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: we are so much stronger when we rise together united, 453 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: we stand divided, we fall. So anyway, guys, that's it. 454 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: That's this episode. I hope you guys enjoyed it. I 455 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: know I have a lot to say, but all these 456 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 2: topics are very important and very true to me, and 457 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: I just I'm here to help in any way that 458 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 2: I possibly can. And yeah, I mean, my vision for 459 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: our culture, starting with myself, is ending the fake support guys, 460 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: ending silent envy, and healing what our parents and grandparents 461 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: never could. Now to conclude, guys, if you have ever 462 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: felt unsupported, judged, or criticized by your own people, I 463 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: want you to know it's not your faults and you're 464 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: not alone. I see you, I love you, I'm proud 465 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: of you. I'm here, and I'll be waiting here, right 466 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: here on this chair for the next episode of Cheeky's 467 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: and Chill. Let's do better guys together, Love you. 468 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: This is a. 469 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: Production of iHeartRadio and the Michael Dura podcast Network. Follow 470 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: us on Instagram at Michael Doura Podcasts, then follow me Cheeky's, 471 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: That's c h I q U I s. 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