1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak here for this Wednesday, the twenty 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: ninth of March in London. Coming up today, Back to 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: the future, UBS brings in former CEO Sergio and Marty 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: to take on the top job banking on an overhaul. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Financial officials outlined plans for our after regulatory changes and 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: raided French banks could face more than a billion dollars 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: in fines in a tax forward probe, a UK green tax, 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: putting the brake on a combustion engine ban, and the 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: job's most at risk from chat GPT. Those are the 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: stories we're looking at in today's papers. And I'm Leanne 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Geron's plus the five million euro Deutsche Bank trade that 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: may have triggered Friday's global rout. That's all straight ahead 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. The business news you need to 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: start your day in just one fifteen minute podcast on Apple, Spotify, 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business App and everywhere you get your podcasts. 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Caroline Hetger. Here are the stories we're 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: following today. UBS has named Sergio Amotti as its new CEO. 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: The news comes a week after the bank stepped in 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: to buy troubled lender Credit Suez for three point three 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: billion dollars. Bloomberg's finance reporter Stefania Bianche reacted to the 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: news that the current CEO, Ralph Hammers, will step down. 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: I think this is this is a surprise. We know 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: now that Ralph Hammers will stay on. He will be 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: working alongside Amotti and he will be consulting, so he 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: will still be there, but at the end of the 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: day it will be Amotti in charge. Bloombog's financial reporters 27 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: Stefania Bianche well A Marti previously held the top job 28 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: at the bank for nine years and repositioned the lender 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: away from riskier trading and towards managing money. Following the 30 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: global financial crisis. In terms of the banking industry more broadly, though, 31 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: top US financial officials have outlined major plans to of 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: all regulations in the banking sector. Answering questions from the 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: US lawmakers, the FED Vice Chair for Supervision Michael Barr 34 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: suggested that capital and liquidity standards would need to be strengthened. 35 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: The Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren quized officials have a listen 36 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: to this telling. Exchange Vice Chair bar let me start 37 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: with you, do you believe we should strengthen our financial 38 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: rules going forward. Yes, I do, Senator Chairman Gruenberg. What 39 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: about you? Do you agree with President Biden that we 40 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: need to strengthen our banking rules. I do agree, Senator 41 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: Under Secretary Liang? Do you agree with the President on this? 42 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: Senator I agree that we do need to prevent these 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: types of bank failures. Well, I'm asking you, of course, 44 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: we need to prevent them by supervision. But that's not 45 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: by simply wishing it. It's by stronger regulation. Is that right? 46 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: I agree? Senator Okay, good, Senator Warren there speaking to 47 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: the FED Vice Chair for Supervision Michael Barr, FDIC Chair 48 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: motto In Greenberg, and the Treasury Under Secretary for Domestic 49 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: Finance Neddie Liang. Now any proposals, though, will be met 50 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: with stiff opposition from Republicans who say that regulators fail 51 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: to oversee foresee the dangers of high inflation and rising 52 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: interest rates. Meanwhile, the UK's Chief Secretary to the Treasury 53 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: has once again sought to reassure markets over the stability 54 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: of this country's banking sector. Speaking to Bloomberg, John Glenn 55 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: says that it's not wrong to assume that the challenges 56 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: facing the US banking sector also apply to Britain. The 57 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: structure is very different. We've got a small number of 58 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: very large banks and their capital requirements are very rigorously 59 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: enforced by our regulators, who obviously had a step change 60 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: after the financial crisis fifteen years ago. So I don't 61 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: want to be complacent, but I do think that that 62 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: means that we're in good shape. But obviously we've got 63 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: to keep aware of all the challenges in different banks, 64 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: and the different profile of concentration of customers, the different 65 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: liquidity challenges and issues that they all face in different ways. 66 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: John Glen there speaking to Bloomberg's and Marie Hordern in Washington. 67 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: This as US bets against European banks have hit a 68 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: seven year high and reflecting on those trades, the Bank 69 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: of England Governor Andrew Bailey yesterday told MPs that markets 70 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: are testing the sector for any signs of trouble. But 71 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: very strong for you with the UK banking system is 72 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: that it is in a strong position. But capital and 73 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: liquidity wise, I think there are moves and markets if 74 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: you like, test out firms. I would not want to 75 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: say that those, in my estimation are based on identified 76 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: weaknesses more than testing out. I mean there is quite 77 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: a bit of testing outgoing on at the moment. I 78 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: Speaking to the UK's Treasury Committee, Bailey also echoed John 79 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: Glenn's view of the UK banking system, saying that it 80 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: remains in a very strong position. He also described the 81 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: collapse of Silicon Valley Bank as the fastest passage from 82 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: health to death since Bearings Now. Regulators believe that it 83 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: is a single five million euro bet on Deutsche Bank 84 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: credit default swaps that triggered Friday's global market route. The 85 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: trade launched a sell off that wiped one point six 86 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: billion euros off Deutsche Bank's market cap and more than 87 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: thirty billion euros off European banking stocks. Overall, it's unclear 88 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: who placed the relevant bet. There's no evidence so far 89 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: of anything nefarious about that trade. And just lastly, French 90 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: banks including BNP, Parry Beat and Socit General are facing 91 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: fines totaling more than one billion euros after an investigation 92 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: into tax fraud and money laundering. It follows raids relating 93 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: to a dividend strategy where shareholders transferred stock from a 94 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: short period two investors based abroad. All of that in 95 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: order to avoid a dividend tax. Now Bloomberg has approached 96 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: the five banks named full comment, no comment just as yet, 97 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: but a very interesting story around that issue of dividend 98 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: tax and how to avoid it in terms of those 99 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: top stories. That's it. But another really great story on 100 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: the terminal that caught my eye away from all of 101 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: the banking news, which we'll bring you more details of 102 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: in a moment with Francy Lakua and Nabila Ahmed. Is 103 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: this one hands up anyone who has lost a yacht. 104 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: There is a mystery surrounding a yot that is docked 105 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: in Antigua and Barbuda. It's been there for a year 106 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: with a five person crew. Bloomberg reports that it's racked 107 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 1: up a bill of half a million dollars. But now 108 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: the authorities in Antigo and Barbudo are saying they're going 109 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: to sell off the yacht because the person who people 110 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: thought it was owned by a Russian billionaire, Andrei Guriev, says, 111 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: according to his lawyers, that he doesn't own the vessel. 112 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: He only used it from time to time leased it 113 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: and so now Antigo and Barbudo are going to sell 114 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: off this yacht. So it's the Alpha Narrow is the 115 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: name of It's going to be apparently a put up 116 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: for auction after the thirty first of March. A look 117 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: at this on the Bloomberg terminal. Sounds like an amazing yacht. 118 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: It's got an infinity pool as well. But look, seriously, 119 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: this is the kind of issue with the fallout of sanctions. 120 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: It would seem potentially, although we don't know the owner 121 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: of the yacht, but it seems like that maybe the 122 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: issue that story on the terminal. Okay, back to matters 123 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: more serious. Sitting down with me now is Bloomberg's editor 124 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: at large facing lackwork to see you nice and early, 125 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Fran said, good morning. So surprise announcement that UBS has 126 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: named Sergio and Morty as new CEO, replacing Ralph Harmers. 127 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: So this is the return of someone that we're very 128 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: familiar with. Of course, it's a very big move two 129 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: weeks after the deal to buy Credit Spees it is 130 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: and I think it means that they just mean business. 131 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: So we had heard that they wanted someone who was 132 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: very capable. We know that Serger and Mardy is also 133 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: considered one of the most capable, brightest bankers of his generation. 134 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: By some he's really considered all sort of shirt because 135 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: he gets straight to business and does dilly dally. The 136 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: fact that he was brought in less than two weeks 137 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: is actually quite incredible. But if you look at the 138 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: task that UBS has, I would say it's twofold. First 139 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: of all, what do they keep? How do they manage 140 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: this mega merger? We know that what we know that 141 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: their complications possibly with the Investment Bank in terms of 142 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: of winding some of the things there. We know what 143 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: they want to do with the Swiss Universal Bank. We 144 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: don't really know what they do with leverage in markets 145 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: and things like that. The other question is he needs 146 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: to preserve Sir Jermadi what Ubs has been right Ubs, 147 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: if you speak to shareholders, they liked it because look, 148 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: as a Swiss boring wealth manager, they had some risk, 149 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: was definitely not as much risk as Kretti Sweeze, and 150 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: they gave back to shareholders via dividends and share buy bank. 151 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: So he's also going to have the task to make 152 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: sure that he, you know, he goes back to those 153 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: glory days. And remember he not only knows Ubs for 154 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: nine years, he also tried to beat Kretti sweee for 155 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: those nine years, every day of his life. So it 156 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: does give him a massive competitors advantage. Yeah, I mean 157 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: the long time especially can't have ended up buying credit swee. 158 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: So this is certainly a huge change. I mean, Ralph 159 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: Thomas is going to stay on an advisory role. But yeah, 160 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: the big challenge is for Matty, isn't it. Yeah, it's 161 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: a Marty that I think will set the strategy with 162 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: the chairman who also when you speak to people that 163 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: have worked with him at Morgan Stanley say, look, he 164 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: takes no prisoners. He's aggressive in his thinking and again 165 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't cut any corners. I think you need at 166 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: this point really the a team to try and see 167 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: who they can sell to things quickly and carve out 168 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: really you know what's good and what's nut. What will 169 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: you be as keep Again many questions on leverage finance, 170 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: a couple of things that they maybe want to sell 171 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: to Apollo. The broader question is really some of the 172 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: ugly stuff that's in the investment bank. And then we 173 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: hear not confirmed that there's a couple of things, for example, 174 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: in the algorithm trading platforms that they would like to 175 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: keep that could be very surprising, but so again, if 176 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: you need, if you know someone who knows both companies intimately, 177 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: then they're going to make the right decisions because they 178 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: don't they don't have a lot of time to get 179 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: this done. Caroline, No, absolutely, I think it's going to 180 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: be so interesting. We have to see what happens with 181 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: the chef ice this morning in terms of how investors 182 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: react to it. Thank you so much for coming in studio, 183 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: Franci lack Waplan Bog's editor at large. They're giving us 184 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: some well initial thoughts really around this surprise announcement for 185 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: UBS bringing back surgery and what she obviously an old town, 186 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: very familiar to Bloomberg and to investors. But the pressure 187 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: will be on in terms of how ubs, amalgamates and 188 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: managers credit Swie going forwards. But of course the regulatory 189 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: backdrop worldwide in terms of banking may alter also quite 190 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: significantly incoming years. Capital rules boiled down the hearings about 191 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank in the US and 192 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: in the UK on Tuesday. More US hearings have come today, 193 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: of course, and so far the op shot is whether 194 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: there will be more stringent rules around bank liquidity and 195 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: capital requirements, but that didn't mean that regulators avoided criticism 196 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of questions about whether they were really 197 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: paying enough attention when it came to the collapse of 198 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: SVB and indeed credit swees after that. Joining me now 199 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: to discuss this as were put in Abila armored Nabila, 200 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: good morning. Thank you so much for being back with me. 201 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: Just on the hearings. First of all, what were the 202 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: key points in your view? We had a little bit 203 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: from Elizabeth while and there was quite a lot of questions, 204 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: quite testy exchanges. Yes, it was all very strongly worded. 205 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: Wasn't a Caroline So we heard words throwing around like hubris, entitlement. 206 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: Agreed that there was a textbook case of mismanagement. There 207 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: was a lot of finger pointing. You had the Republicans 208 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: say that it was not their decision to water down 209 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: some of the post crisis era rules that led to this. 210 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: The Democrats obviously disagree. Some of the things that came 211 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: out of it. Really was there's a big push on 212 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: to try to understand exactly what went wrong. I'm not 213 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: sure that we're that much closer to understanding that as 214 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: of yet, but that is something that the lawmakers are 215 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: trying to hone in on and then what needs to 216 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: happen next to prevent this happening again. Yeah, absolutely so 217 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: in terms of the collapse of SVB, will banks now 218 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: have to deal with tougher US regulations, What are the 219 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: options on the table, and will they really have political support? Certainly, 220 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: the regulators that were before Congress yesterday have said that 221 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: they do anticipate the need to strengthen capital and liquidity standards. 222 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: For example, banks are facing some tougher regulations. Again, some 223 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: of these regulations had been introduced post crisis and then 224 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: watered down under the Trump era, so there's calls to 225 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: reinstate some of that. We can understand. We understand that, 226 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: you know, we can expect the stress testing of banks, 227 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: for example, will be strengthened because at the moment they 228 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: weren't really stress testing for what happens in an interest 229 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: rate rising scenario, and this is what brought down SVB. 230 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: They're also proposing liquidity rules to be explored to improve resiliency. 231 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: They're talking about a long term debt requirement for big 232 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: banks that aren't designated as global systemically important, so that 233 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: they have a cushion of loss absorbing resources. We're talking 234 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: about more regulation for bags that have more than one 235 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars worth of assets, and SVB, you'll remember, 236 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: had about two hundred and nine billion dollars worth of 237 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: assets as of last year. Okay, And this, I suppose 238 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: is where it's important to sort of separate and separate 239 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: out the US versus the UK. So Andrew Bailey saying 240 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: that svb's collapse was the fastest passage from health to 241 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: death since Bearings, which was back in nineteen ninety five, 242 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: and that was also in a matter of days. But 243 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: then John Glenn and Bailey saying that the UK is 244 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: a very different environment but underlying tougher the rules are 245 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: here in the UK exactly, and they're saying that the 246 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: UK banking six to sector is very very strong. But 247 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: they do say that the markets are really testing out 248 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: what's you know, testing out lenders and seeing looking for weaknesses. 249 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: But even having said that, they think that we're nowhere 250 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: near where we were before the two thousand and eight crisis, 251 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: for example. And they're talking about the issues around SVB 252 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: being very idiosyncratic, and you know, finance find global finance 253 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: is very very interconnected right now, but tougher regulations obviously 254 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: do help. And the UK is a much smaller system 255 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: and the banking system there is much much smaller than 256 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: the US two which probably also helps. Okay, there are 257 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: two other issues though that I'd love to get your 258 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: comment on though, the concern around the speed of withdrawals 259 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: from SVB, and we got some numbers on just how 260 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: spet it ports which are eyewatering, but then also throw 261 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: into that climate goals. There's a bit of criticism around 262 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: that perhaps the regulators were not fully focused on the banks, 263 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: that's the accusation anyway, because they're thinking about kind of 264 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: climate change green issues. That's exactly right. Look, that's not 265 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: a new accusation towards the regulators. And you know, we're 266 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: looking at a situation where inflation has rocketed in more 267 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: than five times the Bank of England's target of two percent. 268 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: So there are questions about why this has happened. But 269 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: the Bank of England has already said that they planned 270 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: to cut spending on climate change work. A lot of 271 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: that was driven by Mark Karney, remember when he was 272 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: governor from twenty thirteen to twenty twenty, and it was 273 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: about stress testing commercial lenders to ensure that they were 274 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: taking the long term impact of rising global temperatures into account, 275 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: for example, and he really kindly did put climate related 276 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: risks to the economy at the heart of Bowe's financial 277 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: stability mandate. And the questions that are being asked now 278 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: is that was too much work done on that and 279 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: was at a big distraction and not enough done on 280 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: inflation and budget tree pressures etc. And whether that some 281 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: of that money would be diverted. But as I say, 282 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: Bank of England already earlier this month Bloomberg reported that 283 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: were redirecting some of that money to call functions because 284 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: of the rising pressures on its costs and its budget 285 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: as well. But why you can't do both, I'm not sure. Yes, 286 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: good questions, Okay, I think that's the good points on 287 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: which Nabila thank you so much for being with us, 288 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: our finance reporter, Nobila Armed then just kind of digesting 289 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: and thinking about those US hearings UK testimony into the 290 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: collapse of Silicon Valley Bank. There are of course more 291 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: US hearings to come today now up next a UK 292 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: green tax, putting the brakes on a combustion engine ban 293 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: and the jobs most at risk from chat GPT now 294 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: the paper review on blue Bird Day Break Europe. The 295 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: news you need to know from today's papers and Journey 296 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: this morning has been based to leanne Gerin so the 297 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: time's headline lean the UK to impose a green tax 298 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: on imports from polluting factories. Yes, indeed, caroline and in 299 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: the energy industry is actually bracing for the UK's Green 300 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: Day which is happening tomorrow, and grant shaps have courses. 301 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: The Energy Secretary is announcing new climate measures and this 302 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: will all be part of a package of proposals that 303 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: will be unveiled tomorrow. As I said on Energy Security Day, now, 304 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: under new government plans, it's all to hit net zero 305 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: by twenty fifty. Caroline, which we've been hearing about cheap 306 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: imported products made in polluting factories overseas could face these 307 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: new green import taxes. And another shift is that middle 308 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: income families will be given grants to make their homes 309 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: and more energy efficient. Those grants have been available to 310 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: lower income families, so there will be the shift and 311 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: the scheme is basically going to mirror a really similar 312 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: plan which has been implemented at the moment by the 313 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: European Union, Okay, And what it's saying is that countries 314 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: with lacks environmental rules will be prevented from undercutting UK 315 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: producers who now have to comply with these increasingly stringent 316 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: environmental regulations that are in place. Only questions on this, Yeah, 317 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: surely that is inflationary. Surely you can't do that because 318 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: of WTO rules if you slap kind of imports tariffs 319 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: onto other countries. And also, I mean I do think 320 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: there'll be attention if individual households get some money to 321 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: try to kind of climate proof their homes. But the 322 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: government's had two goals that it failed miserably, and there's 323 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: been loads of criticism. For example, just today from the 324 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: Independent Climate Change Committee, they published their semi annual report. 325 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they're totally damning on the government's failures to 326 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: prepare for extreme weather. So I've got lots of questions 327 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: on this story. And Caroline, you're absolutely right. This report 328 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 1: says Britain is strikingly unprepared for a changing climate and 329 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: could face disruptions to energy, food supply, transport communications if 330 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: it fails to adapt quickly. So I guess what they're 331 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: saying when it comes to making homes more energy efficient. 332 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: That will help save on those end bills that we've 333 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: seen increased so dramatically. And also, remember, Caroline, we were 334 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: burning through electric weren't we last year when it was 335 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: forty degrees in this country? Can remember? I think Caroline 336 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: bought full disclosure. Don't say that that is terrible, that's 337 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: not part of my environmentally friendly attude. Well, let's look 338 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: at the Telegraph Net zero ban on petrol cars in 339 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: chaos after the Brussels climbed up. There's a UK angle 340 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: to this, there is, indeed, And look, Caroline, we've just 341 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: been talking about energy and how contentious it is and 342 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: how difficult it is to bring in these climate measures, 343 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: haven't we. And this is just maybe another blow for 344 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: grant shaps ahead of tomorrow. So a looming British ban 345 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars could 346 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: actually really be under threat now, Caroline. This comes after 347 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: Brussels watered down its own restrictions, and this comes amid 348 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: such a stiff opposition from the German auto industry. We 349 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: know it's absolutely massive, brings so much to the economy. 350 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: Experts and politicians here in the UK are now warning 351 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: that it's untenable following this climb down for US to 352 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: ban these combustion engines by twenty thirty. They're just saying 353 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: it's not not possible. If Europe doesn't do it, we 354 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: can't do it either. I think that's interesting The Wall 355 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: Street Journal headline, the job's most exposed to chat GPT, Well, 356 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: I do think one thing you tell me about chat GDP, like, 357 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: you got some really interesting information only because a friend 358 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: of mine yesterday plugged in, you know, to chat GPT 359 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: a question about who I was, and so it sent 360 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: me a little blurb It was Yeah, I was reasonably pleased. 361 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: Actually that was. But that's as an aside. Which sectors 362 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: might be for the chop then with chat? Yeah, Caroline, 363 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: quite a few sectors actually. So. A new study finds 364 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: at AI tools could more quickly handle at least half 365 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: of the task that auditors, interpreters, and writers do now. 366 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: But accountants are apparently the professionals who are most exposed 367 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: to the capabilities of artificial intelligence. And this is all 368 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: according to new research. If found at least half of 369 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: accountancy task could be completed much faster with technology. 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