WEBVTT - Bigg D 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.000 R and B Money. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:06.120 We are. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:15.800 Thanks take maligized. We are the authorities on R and 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.560 B Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank. 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.079 This is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:29.319 on all things R and B Miami Edition. 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.000 Where were my miam Me? 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.680 As when you come down to the three oh five, 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:37.760 you know what you gotta do, and you want to 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.199 talk that music? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.240 want to talk that musician. Ship it's a man. It's 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.279 a Man's a man. It's a name that comes up. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:46.800 Yeah. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:52.720 Ten out of ten times, sir, hit records are listen 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.000 to R and B Live before R and B Live 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.040 All the Lawn edit. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.760 I was with you, man, you with me? Make some noise? 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:06.920 Ward brother, big be in the building. Man, come on, man, wow, 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:12.160 that was yeah you big day. 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.759 Like, man, I don't even be you know, I don't 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:16.479 be doing a whole lot of talk. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:21.399 I just about that. Actually, I just do a whole 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.920 lot of work and I'm on it. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.360 Man. Just to be sitting here with y'all. Man, it's like, 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.200 I really don't do this, Like this is like kind 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.120 of new for me. Just sit sitting down, you know, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.240 interviewing and talking to the podcast, man, like, I love 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.520 what y'all doing, man, and thank you man. I'm just 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:44.839 trying to recoup from the intro. That was incredible. 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:45.080 Man. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.200 But I just heah, I appreciate you all for having me. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.160 Yeah, but listen, I think you know us knowing you 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:55.400 for as long as we have us knowing, us, knowing 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.440 the work, us knowing the spirit. You know what I'm 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.720 saying of a man like this is you. You're somebody 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.880 who people need to hear from. You know what I'm saying, 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.040 and understand that they've been hearing from you. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.400 They just just know it. We're gonna make the connection. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.320 Oh that's him. That's him. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.760 I remember singing at your uh, your arm, you're live. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:21.880 Who else? 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:27.600 Somebody was there? Kicky Wyatt? It was ki Ki Wyatt, yo, 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.079 like when I was there. Yeah, I think she might 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:31.920 have called me on stage or something, and you called 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.519 me on stage or something and we got we got 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.799 to get into it. But it's like every time I 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.040 see here's the crazy part and we and we you know, 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:41.760 we always go back to the beginning because we want 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:42.600 to know where it started. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.320 But every time I see. 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:49.720 You, you've had major success in the music business, you've 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.320 had hit records after hit it, you have hit records. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:58.040 You do not have to be a working traveling musician. 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.240 You do not have to B and I will. You 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.880 will be in the most Randoms at a wedding Ross 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.520 Randoms bus as the lead musician. 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:21.680 Like rocking like music you really love you really love 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:22.480 the music. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.600 Yeah, this is listen, this is all I know. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:24.959 Man. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:29.320 You know I came out to church. You know, my 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:34.920 mother she raised two boys, me and my brother. My 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.480 brother's two years younger than younger than me. God bless 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.800 it there. Like he passed in ninety six. He was 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.520 on the Value Jet flight that went down in Evergladesh. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:42.920 Wow. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.440 And and that was my only brother. My brother was 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:51.320 a keyboard player. He was the musical director for Vanessa 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.600 No no, no, congratulations. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.880 What's that girl? The lady Williams. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.960 Yeah, my brother was her m d. He was the 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:02.560 day and then my brother used to travel with B. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:03.120 B and C. C. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:07.880 Winings and I was traveling with Shirley Caesar and I. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:11.480 Was traveling with the Winings. You're traveling with Shirley seas. 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:16.200 Like like I was with Shirley for years when I 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.080 was young, like seventeen years coming out of high school, 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.640 I started traveling and I went out with her, you 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:23.160 know what I mean? Then when I with her, and 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.680 then I went out with with with the Winings, and 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.280 and that's that's like like I grew up that kind 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:31.279 of music, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:36.000 So like, but let's not let's not just gloss over 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:42.280 to Shirley, Caesar and the Winings, because that was the top, 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.080 real that was the top of the food chain at 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.760 that time, and you're not no regular musician going on 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:50.599 the road with them. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:51.880 I grew I grew up under that. 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.880 I grew up You gotta be special, Yeah, I grew 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.440 up under. I grew up under that. The Shirley Season, 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.440 James Cleveland Clark System. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:00.640 Yeah, I grew up on. 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.839 The under that type of Yeah you was a guy, yeah, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:03.159 you know. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:03.520 What I mean. 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.719 So that's so it's just always been in me like that. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:07.000 Man. 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.920 So it's like like like even to even to this day, 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.839 like my me me doing live music against my that's 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.000 that's what I love to do. Like I love to 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:21.159 be on stage playing, you know, doing live performances. That's 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.680 my passion. That's so it's all it's just in me, man, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.200 Like That's all I know. So how do you go 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:34.080 from Shirley Caesar and the Whinings to then becoming a 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:35.280 super producer? 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.800 How do you? How does how do you make that transition? 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:38.800 I'm gonna tell you. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.400 I'm gonna tell you for me, this how it started 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:44.240 for me, Like my mother used to always. First of all, 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.560 my dad was a was a singer. My mother was 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.839 a piano player. So I used to grow up on 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:58.120 listening to real music, like like like my mom used 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.200 to play the the emotion all the time. She used 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.680 to play I forgot she used to play this song 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:10.720 the time is right, I forgot who the artist is. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.640 But I grew up just on all that type of stuff. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.800 I grew up on the Eagles, I grew up on Chicago, 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:18.920 the Group of Chicago, you know what I mean. So 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.680 I was I was always into music like that, you 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.520 know what I'm saying. Growing up and coming out of 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.480 Miami that was different because Miami music is bass music. 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:31.640 I came up in that, like you know what I'm saying. 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:35.400 So we wasn't known for R and B music. And 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.640 you know our R and B hero was Michael Sterling 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:43.599 and Miss b Betty Wright. That's our hero in music 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.120 in R and B, you know what I'm saying. So 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:49.120 it's like, you know, I came up like that, you know, 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:55.000 doing music, so you know, to make the transition, you know, 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:59.480 learning how to do rap music with That's when I 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:03.640 became I started working with Trick Daddy and and Trina 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.279 and and and my mindset. It's like, man, I don't 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:07.640 really understand this rap. 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.960 Ship when you first jumped in it. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.960 Yeah, because I just knew music like Earth, Winn and 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.720 Fire was like like my Jimmy Jammer, Terriss Lewis. 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:16.760 Lewis was my idol. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.280 I always like always want I say, man, I always 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:22.960 I want to beat them dudes. I want to produce 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.280 like them cats, like I something about like they sound. 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:26.520 It was. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:30.720 It was Jimmy jam Terry Lewis and Maurice White, like 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.960 like the way they produced, the way the sound. I said, man, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.240 I want my music to sound like that. I don't 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.200 know how, you know what I mean. So that's how 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.040 I came up, you know what I mean. And and 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:44.160 I just took that all land and tried to, you know, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:50.720 navigate through this Miami scene of music. And that's that's 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.840 pretty much how I kind of got started. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.840 So ultimately there were no R and B singers, no 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:56.760 out here at that point. 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:01.080 No, not in Miami. It was all dope dealers and rappers. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.080 Like I grew up. I grew up around killers, dope 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.520 dealers and rappers. Like that's all I know. 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.200 So are you producing just like for the neighborhood rappers 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:11.920 at this point. 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:15.600 Or how do you get producing your first record? My 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:16.800 first message? 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.080 I mean my first I would say my first major 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:21.720 record was Trick Daddy. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:26.760 Let's go, okay, what's your first place? What's your first 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.560 first placement? I know it was a brown bag like 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:33.240 a paper bag. Somebody brought you. Somebody brought you a place. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.280 It is a place, somebody paid you money your podcast exactly. 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.160 I had a lot of brown bag you know what 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:45.240 I'm saying, street casts coming up, like you would like 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.439 if you you, if you, if you from you know, 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.720 like like the G Shorties they call it G Shorties 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.480 and they was like some some cases cats out of Miami, 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.240 and they was like, really my first bag bag, you 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.320 know what I'm saying, So and and and what's what's 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.160 that run about? The G Show is right? Like I 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.120 didn't know how to produce rap music at all. They 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:12.160 just love my music that I was. I was producing. 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.920 Music, man. They was. 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.959 They were from forty fourth Street and Seventh Avenue, and 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:20.880 they were like, d Man, we want you to do 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:21.320 our ship. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:21.600 Man. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.439 I say, oh, man, I don't know ship about rap music. Man. 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.240 Nah Man, you figured out then They was like, man, 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.120 listen to that swave house ship. So I started listening 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.080 to you know what I'm saying, that was musical to 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.640 and then they felt like my music was like that 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:39.360 type of ship. 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.320 So I was like, who the swave was was? 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:45.320 So I started listening to that, man, and and you know, 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.320 That's how I kind of try to put in my 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:48.280 music game. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:49.680 What were you using to produce? 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.760 I was short live ship, like you know what I'm saying. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:59.679 Back back then we was on with Daity Yeah yeah, yeah, ca. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.679 It was the rolling rolling. 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:08.600 It was a deal rolling. It was rolling something. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.880 I can't remember what. You didn't have no studio or nothing. Nah, 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.040 I was just going in different studios and you. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.280 Were just laying down track for track live. 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.800 Yeah, I didn't. I didn't really have my own studio 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:27.920 until like like in the early nineties, and I built 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.679 my own little studio I didn't. I didn't have it. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:32.400 I didn't have my own studio till the end, you 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.480 know what I mean. So it wasn't until it wasn't 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.760 until like and I was still like getting I was 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.040 still getting the brown paper bags. I wasn'tetting no placements 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.360 and that like that. I didn't know what that was, right, 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:43.840 I didn't know how to do it. I was making 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.000 so much money doing street records, and I ain't know how. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.360 I ain't know what the other ship was until you know, 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.720 I ran in the trick and ted ted to ce 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:57.199 Off Slipper Slide and and started working with them. 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.040 That record was a smash. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.880 Let's go as a smash, I used to this day. 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.480 You can't go into an arena and not here Let's go, 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:07.200 I used to. 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:11.640 I was just always playing guitars, my main musician, my 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.959 main instrument. So I would create all my music from 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.520 the guitar. So I used to always love that Ozzie 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.439 Osborne and and so I just stopped, you know what 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.600 I'm saying. So we're in the studio, me and Jim Johnson. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.559 We were just we just stopped, you said, me and 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.719 Jim Johnson, how do you and Jim Johnson get in 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:29.160 the studio. 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.760 That's a legend. That's that's that's a legendary. I'm gonna 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:35.360 tell you the sturb. 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:40.520 Me and Jim, Right. So, Jim used to produce this 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:44.120 group at the time. There wasn't Pretty Ricky. It was 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.400 they was called something Pretty Ricky and the Mavericks, and 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:52.920 they were doing rap music. So Jim was producing their 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.319 rap music. This was before Pleasure. Pleasure wasn't in the 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.760 group's at this point. It's all They all rappers, and 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:04.680 so Jim was producing them or whatever. And so so 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.760 I was doing my little R and B thing or whatever. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.640 So Blue, Baby Blue came to me and said, man, we 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.559 need some beats. Man, can you send us some beasts 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.400 or whatever? So I was like, all right, man, I mean, 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.280 y'all rappers, So I don't know where I could send you, 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.280 but I just seen you, uh some stuff or whatever. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.920 So Baby Blue heard the grind, the grind. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:28.600 On me music, you know what I'm saying, And and 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:32.680 and and when he heard that, he called, I guess 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:36.199 he called Pleasure or whatever. And Pleasure. When Pleasure heard it, 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.600 Pleasure just started sucking with the vibe of and putting 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:40.600 the hook on it and that. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:40.959 Type of thing. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.760 And he wasn't even in the group. He just came 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.640 up with a hook when he he blue was going 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.199 through different beasts and Pleasure told him play that one 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.960 right there, and and it was grind on Me and 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.200 and and that's really so that's how me and generally 0:12:55.200 --> 0:13:00.680 started working together. Because when when grind on Me was 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.280 their single, Power ninety six kind of blew it up 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.480 on the radio or whatever. So when Craig Common came 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:09.480 down to see the group pretty ricky, he was like, well, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.800 let me hear some more music. So the other music 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.960 was a lot of rap music because no one expected 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.760 them to be an R and B group and Pleasure 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.160 ple was gonna be the lead singer. It wasn't they didn't. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.160 It wasn't set up that way. It was set up 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.720 for them to be a rap group. So when Craig 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.720 Common heard grind on Me, he was like, well, who 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.600 did this? Who did this record or whatever? And so 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.280 they was like, man, Big D, he produced that or whatever. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.839 So man Craig was like, what I want to that's 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.520 what I want to meet. I want to meet Big D. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:44.559 So they flew me to New York and me Craig. 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.520 Jim sat down and Craig was like, listen, man, this 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:51.160 is their sound right here, grinding me. I need y'all to. 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.240 He was talking to me and Jim to create this 0:13:54.800 --> 0:14:00.640 for their project. And that's what we did. Reduction Team. 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.440 No wow, we're not even a product. Craig put me 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:05.160 and Jim together. 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.839 That's great. He put us together. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:14.040 Science science, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I respect him 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.480 for it too much. Like he had that vision, he 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.680 was able to see it and put it together. And 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.000 and then he sent He said, I'm gonna send a writer. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.200 I'm I'm gonna introduce y'all to this writer whatever. So 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:29.560 he sent Static Major and me, Jim and Static did 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.080 pretty ricky album in thirty days. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:34.400 Thirty days. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:38.120 We did the whole album, just back to back to back, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.119 that whole Blue Star album, Ground on Me Your Body, 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.040 all of that, we did all that, and we just 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:46.120 we just. 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:51.040 DIDI Classics, BRO Classics. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:54.160 And the and the sauce was. I would always come 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.440 up with the melodies and everything. Jim was the he 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.080 he had the the the the beat, he had the 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.720 eight o eight sound, so he had that bottom and 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.800 I would come up with the melodies. So I was like, 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.200 I had melodies for days because I just I had 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.240 all this music in my head and I always wanted 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.240 to bring it out some kind of way anyway. So 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.400 I would just come up with the melodies and whatever 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:16.920 and just how we created the songs. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:18.360 That's crazy. 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.480 It's funny when he say Jim Johnson, because it was 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:24.480 like I would hear the name Jim Johnson and I'd 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.280 be like like this, like, whoever this is Jim Johnson is? 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.040 I knew. I knew Big D. I seen Big Day. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.200 I was like, but I don't know who Jim Johnson 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.680 is it, But Jim Johnson probably you know what I'm saying. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.440 Jim Johnson probably from them trenches, you know what I'm saying. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.840 He wanted niggas like man, Jim John's like, hey man, 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:48.640 you you yeah yeah. But when I say he had it, 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.360 oh man, y'all two together. 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.160 He was like the king of the as down here. Yeah, 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.000 that's what his thing was, the ato as. And here 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:03.560 Miami that's that Miami bass he had had. And that's 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.200 how we put our thing together. 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.680 So tell me this, you guys. Now, you guys, I 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.440 mean major success now, y'all, y'all on them charts now, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.360 so there's something different. I mean, well, let me go 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:22.480 back to trick Daddy was, Yeah, that's what's the next 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:23.240 move after that? 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:24.920 And do you get your own studio after that? 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.480 And then Ja Jay's famous question is now that the 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.080 checks are rolling in, but before he. 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.880 Even gets to that, what he hits you'all for? What 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:35.160 hits you all for? 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:35.280 On? 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:35.680 Let's go. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:40.600 You know you're gonna be surprised, right, So everybody kept saying, 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.040 we was not gonna get this Samper clip, right, we 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:44.640 was not gonna get this Samper clip. 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:45.800 Yo. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:55.080 Ozzie Osbourne son h is a trick Daddy fan. Go figure, 0:16:55.880 --> 0:17:00.600 why not Burn's son is a trick Daddy fan. When 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.360 it got when they heard the record or whatever, Yo, 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.760 this was when I tell you this, when it came back. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.360 Thus that man only took fifty percent. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.240 Wow, wow, fifty. 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:17.960 Yeah because them samples give me ninety Yeah, I did 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:18.639 you a favorite, give me. 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.080 Give men need a you know, a little bag on 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:23.760 the side of did like. 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.800 This, no problem, no stress, no none of that man 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.080 only because he ain't I didn't know who, but but 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.000 it saw them was like, oh, like you got to 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.760 clear this dad, And and that. 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.639 Yeah, and Trick was on fire. Wow, Trick love of kids? 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.000 Do you think do you get a nice bag for 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:44.520 producing that? A good advance? 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.159 It was, you know, it was you know after that, 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:55.280 we met Big John. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:17:54.840 --> 0:18:00.359 That's one of the Big Bus just saw you ago. 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:05.920 We talked about you show. You've changed so many lives. 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:12.639 Man, Yo, Big John is the godfather your Big John. Listen, nobody, 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.040 nobody got an eye for talent. 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:15.520 Like Big John. 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.840 Big John is that dude man like like Big John 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:25.160 taught me so much coming out coming from the bottom 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:29.200 here in Miami. We don't know nothing about this, this 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:33.200 music world, this music ship. We we just we're down 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.960 here getting it. Big John was the one that really 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.399 taught me a lot and how to maneuver. And because 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.600 when when I first thought I was young and real 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.399 strong minded and just I was real militant, Like I 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.880 just felt like everybody was against me. Everybody that ain't 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.960 me was against me. So I'm coming in with that 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.440 mentality coming out of Miami whatever, so I'm not really 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.600 knowing how to Big John was the one that kind 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.840 of taught me how yeah you know what I'm saying, 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:06.600 and tone my thing down and not be so what 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:10.800 they I guess they's say intimidating or whatever, because you people, 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.600 you can roll people the wrong way in this game. 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.800 But you come up around that too though, So you 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.720 you got to have a certain you when you're dealing 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.320 with it. You know, what's what's the boys you was 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.320 dealing with the young show. 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:27.000 You gotta have. 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.800 All I know is like like the street. All I 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:35.120 know is so so this music, this music game was different, 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:37.480 you know. I mean even though I love music and 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.920 I just know I can do it, but the game. 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:41.680 Of business side, business. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.320 Side of it was a whole the world, a whole 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:44.760 other world. 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:45.760 And people don't understand that. 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.959 They think that you can, that you can apply some 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.199 of the same tactics and. 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.119 Yeah, they'll get you ab out of this ship. You 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:55.640 know what I'm saying. 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.200 It's not about all you know, don't be so real, 0:19:58.320 --> 0:19:59.840 don't be that. But it's just like, no, no, no, 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.400 understand that this is a business. You have to move 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.000 in the business a different way than how you would 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:05.920 move in the street. 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:07.080 They're gonna move you out of. 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:08.520 This thing, you know what I'm saying, Like it's just 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:10.679 it's just not designed that way. 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.800 And you know, I'm glad you. I'm glad you said 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:15.920 that because. 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.800 A lot of the younger creatives that are coming up 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.359 and almost man, you keep doing all that. 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.440 Yeah, that door is gonna be closed. It's going to 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:27.520 be closed a lot of doors. 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:31.359 I just felt like that that that because I'm young 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.840 and and me coming out of minament, I missed a 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.080 lot of opportunities that I felt like that that was, 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.119 you know, always say what God has a miss for me, 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.680 But there's still some things like the opportunity I feel 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.760 like I missed because of my lack of knowledge and 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:49.640 lack of not knowing how. 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.720 To move in the game. I used to get. 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:53.840 I used to get an that tone people you say, well, 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.760 you know, they're gonna take a percentage of your public 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:01.520 take what you heard, take right, nobody taking a motherfucker 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.440 thing over here. I'm like on that, you know, and 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.439 I'm so I'm like, no, no, that's not how we 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:11.040 do it. So I'm not I'm growing. I'm not knowing you. 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:12.680 This is the way you do it. You got the 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:18.200 you got this, you know, you know. It wasn't time 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:20.440 I grew and grew into this thing or that di 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:25.600 I learned. Okay, so you know, like I like I 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:27.200 tell a lot of the young cast, like you said, 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.800 that's coming up, Yo, you have to move a certain way. 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:34.160 This music game is a fraternity if if if anybody 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:37.080 could do it, everybody will be doing it right, you 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.160 know what I'm saying. So it's like it's a little 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:42.080 fraternity man. So it's like the way you're moving this 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:43.720 game is how successful you can be. 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:45.360 That's how I was looking. 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:47.720 Shout out again the Big John. He's been again into 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.000 my publishing career. Wow ninety eight. 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.399 Yeah yeah see, but my I think I think my 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:59.320 publishing thing was before. Yeah, yeah, he was there. Big 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:03.200 John was there me day one. Wow, he was there 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:04.920 for me that he gave me and Jim my first 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:05.560 publishing deal. 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:10.760 Real, that's amazing. And we went on to become. 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:16.359 Two thousand, two thousand and six, we got being Mine 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:21.520 right yeah yeah. 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:26.240 Not a year, yeah, a year, crag a year. But 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:30.800 that's that's after. Yeah, that's that's that's after. The Jamie 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:36.639 Fox thought to go back to figure out what he 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:37.200 brought to though. 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.959 Yeah, so what what when you get your first legit 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.439 not brown paper, when you first get to you know, 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.720 the wire or that check what's the first thing you got. 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:56.960 To celebrate yourself. I bought a Bentley. Yeah should Yeah. 0:22:57.119 --> 0:23:02.080 I think everybody bought a billing when they got their first. 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:03.600 My business manager talked me out of it. 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.560 I wish I asked somebody to like, that's what thing. 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.080 That's one thing I didn't have. I didn't have nobody 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.639 really teach me how to do the business thing I 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:13.480 just got bought. 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:16.800 I was just went crazy. Listen, you had to see you. 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:17.600 You get the cool? 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:21.720 Did you get that? You got that big boy? I 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:26.280 got the big boy. Yeah, I got the big before. 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:29.080 That's what That's what you have to have. I wanted 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:29.880 that cool. Yeah. 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:36.880 Yeahestatic had a couple of them. Yeahestatic was moving around. 0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:40.000 I was like, wow, that's what you're doing. 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.840 I had. I bought Rams and. 0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:47.040 Quite body Biley the already had like I had the 0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:48.200 Lexus g S. 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:53.240 But it's still a nice car. I bought. I put 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:55.479 rims on the conversations a little bit. 0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:55.920 Whatever. 0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:00.520 Check was a little bigger than mine. Deal what I 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:05.679 could you was stunned. 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:20.960 It was mentally crazy for me. H. I'dne been all 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:24.520 over the world travel. I've never been no place like Miami. 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.000 Nowhere like Miami, you know what I mean. 0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.359 So it's like miamis to keep me a float. Yeah, 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:33.879 messing with Smitty Green Eyes. 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:41.159 Oh yeah, float yeah, come on, come on to me. 0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:46.160 Need you. I bring you down next week. That's real. 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:49.640 That's let me tell you. That's that's my dog. Where 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:50.720 that's Minty dog? 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:51.080 Bro? 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:53.800 Trust me? What's he? What's he? Green? 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:54.000 Like? 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:56.359 It's all I got you next week? You can come 0:24:56.400 --> 0:25:01.560 down here next week. That's Smitty playing everybody's business? Yeah yeah. 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.159 Is it a good time to get to Jamie Fox? Unpredictable? 0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.399 Is it a good time to get to that girl? 0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:12.479 Get comfortable about to do some things you've never done before? 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.920 Come on, Harold Lily Baby, not the usual big date tonight, 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.160 we getting unpredictable job. 0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:29.560 I told this, I told Harold Lily this. 0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.040 I don't even know if you saw the episode, but 0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.320 I got to tell you this because since you're part 0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:35.400 of that record. 0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:39.800 Y'all saved my life. Hmm. Wow. 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.840 When I was down here helping him finish that album, 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:50.359 I had nothing. He was literally going into his safe 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:54.600 at the hotel and just giving me handfuls of money 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.080 so I could just make it through the week. 0:25:58.359 --> 0:25:59.640 That's crazy. I had nothing. 0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:03.280 That's crazy because I would saying this. I remember you 0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:06.760 in the studio. I was sitting with Brionn said, man, 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:08.200 that Nigga's bad. 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:12.080 I'm just there trying to be of service because nothing bro. 0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.080 And when that album came out, because of that, that 0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:19.119 number one single and the seven hundred thousand records the 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.120 first week, first week, Hey hey them people call me 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:23.639 first week, Hey man, he. 0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:25.080 Remember your number? You back? 0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:30.880 What can we give you a Lamborghini? You could give 0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:34.560 me a Lamborghini? They say no, no, but what about 0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:36.439 the money. You will fear it out. I need a 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:37.760 Lamborghini and. 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:39.879 I wanted in yellow, and I wanted in yellow. 0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:46.560 How you staying that yeller? Because they have to see me. Wow, 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:50.640 they have to see that I'm back. Y'all saved my life. 0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:55.560 You know man, listen, man, that was nothing, but God, 0:26:56.280 --> 0:27:01.080 let me tell you, like, first of all, that sample, 0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.440 my mama used to play that all the time. 0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:10.880 A wild child, what she is? Sweet as well? Let 0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:12.359 it ray fall down? 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:19.720 Uh, it's the sample sweetend to flower growing around. So 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.160 I used to hear that in my head all the time. 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:29.240 I said, damn, man, that shits so hard and we 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:31.639 and it started with I took that part out of 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:34.600 the sample, and that's how we created a song just 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:38.520 from that bom bob. 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.280 And we created it. We created a record from that. 0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:41.880 And then. 0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:49.760 I called Brion. I wasn't even thinking about Jamie Fox. 0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.520 I just called Brion because I used to let Bren 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.760 here all my beats. I said, Brian, Man, we just 0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.240 did a we just did a dope beat. 0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:58.320 Man. You gotta hear this. 0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.480 I ain't thinking and I ain't thinking Jamie Fox, and 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.120 I just I'm like, I'm every beat I do, I'm 0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:06.399 thinking the rap artist. 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:09.480 You know what. I'm got that ear? Yeah, got that 0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:10.600 ear yeah. 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.320 So we meet up down here on South to be somewhere. 0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.880 Sitting in the car, I played the record, I played 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:20.520 the beat. Brion just went at it. Oh, I hear 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.159 this for Jamie and he said, I'm gonna get this 0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:28.160 nigga Harold Lily to write it. 0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:32.159 I ain't know who was. I say, don't worry about that, 0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:34.080 you just stick to the music. I got this. 0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:38.400 That's like, man, I'm gonna get hair Leal to write 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.920 it and Jamie gonna sing it. 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:42.520 Yo, it's out of here. 0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:48.080 I said, all right, in that order, in that order 0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:50.480 he's He's like, man, it's out of here. 0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.280 I ain't man, I don't know nothing. 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.960 I'm just like, man, let's do it, and the rest 0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:59.000 is what it is, man, Jamie. Jamie went on that 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:04.480 that wrong with that Ray Charles thing timing was when 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:07.480 I tell you, I ain't never seen a setup like that, Like, 0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:11.440 I ain't never had a setup like that pertaining any 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:12.000 record that. 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:16.120 I was a part of. A rollout, they call it rollout. 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:19.480 I have never seen a rollout like that. An oscar 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:19.920 to that. 0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:24.400 Yeah, yes, it doesn't stopping that train. It doesn't happen. 0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:33.400 It don't happen. I was like this, Oh Jesus, Jesus, 0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:41.920 my god. In this band, you had like lies. 0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:45.600 In an arena. Yeah, that record is out of the 0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:50.360 kicks in man. No, that was. 0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:56.480 I played every instrument on that record, the baseline, all that. 0:29:56.440 --> 0:30:03.720 Cutes, Champagne, if you get some food up, pull it up. 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:06.880 Played every instrument on that record. Yeah. 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:12.320 I played most of the instruments on on all the records. Yeah, Guitar, bass, drums, keyboard, 0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:15.440 training with the Kelly Rolling song Here we Go, I 0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.960 played the p on I played the keyboards on here 0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:20.720 we go, Real. 0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:22.160 Church Boy, Real church Boy. 0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:30.400 Actually that song was for sim D's Tender Love. So 0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.360 my brother, he was a keyboard player, so I always 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:34.840 wanted to learn how to play that song on the key. 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:36.560 So my brother taught me how to play that that 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:40.080 particular record on key on the keyboards. So I always 0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.880 knew how to play. So when when we did a beat, 0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.720 I was playing in the studio one day, just playing 0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:47.280 with it. So Jim said, man, let's do the beat 0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:51.280 to that, and that was the train at Kelly Rolling. 0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.600 Here we go record. Wow, we didn't even sample. We 0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:58.040 just played everything from that. We didn't sample for some ds. 0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.560 Every every song, I mean, every part of that record 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.080 was straight instrumental, straight I played. 0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.840 So now you're now you got these massive records and 0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:08.040 everybody's calling. 0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:13.560 Yeah. Then jay Z calls, Oh, let me tell you 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:19.280 how this man, This this story is crazy, right, This, 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.880 this story is crazy because this is how my career 0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.440 has gone. My career is going, not not so much 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:29.000 through relationships in the industry, but just God just making 0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:35.960 things happen for me. You know, lo Wayne, When when 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.840 me and Jim, Jim went started doing his thing, I 0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.640 started doing my thing. Was so Lo Wayne was the 0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.520 person that he was the only person really of his 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:48.720 status that restopped me and say, D Man, I need you, 0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:52.400 I need you to send me some beasts like damn man, 0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.800 so Lo Wayne. So so I would just send low 0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.840 Wayne be and send Lowayne beast and then he would 0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.880 he would be working at the Hit at the Hit factory, 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.240 so I would go there and take him a beat 0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.160 CD or whatever. So he'll be in a booth and 0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.520 he'll stop his session as soon as I walk in. 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:13.960 He'll stop his session and tele engine that you'll put 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:18.800 big D beats on whenever he's doing. Like I mean, 0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:20.680 this is this is why I love little Wayne to 0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.280 this day. Like this man like he just I don't know, 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.440 I don't know. He just took an he took an 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.240 interest to me to like, man, I got you D 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.760 So he was just going through me. So Wayne would 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.840 just get on my beast like he'll just he'll just 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.480 me and Wayne got we finally got a double album 0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.520 right now, I got my catalog. I got records that 0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:45.840 Lawayne cut that's not even out. So this particular beat 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:50.200 was the Hello Brooklyn. I did this beat with fabulous 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:54.200 in mind. Hello Brooklyn. How you doing. I was thinking 0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.200 the fabulous. I want to get this beat the fabulous. 0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.560 And that's another thing like when you're producing Miami, especially 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.640 y'all your producers, not just in Miami. But it's our 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.360 problem be how do we get the music to the artist, 0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.520 And so all we have is a dream. When we're 0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:15.520 doing a beat, we're saying, damn, I hit is for fabulous. 0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.400 I ain't never I don't know nobody who know fabulous. 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.920 I ain't never been to New York. I don't know nothing. 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.960 I never been to Brooklyn. I just love to beat. 0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.280 I just stopped messing with the beat in this Hello Brooklyn, 0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:31.120 so Lowayne got on it, and lo Wayne just he 0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.240 was just rapping to it, Hello Brooklyn, and and and 0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.160 and and and it became one of the songs in 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.200 his catalog. So I ain't never thinking nothing of it. 0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.320 I just know low Wayne cut a lot of my beats, 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:43.880 a lot of I don't know if it's ever gonna 0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:45.560 come out or whatever. Man, I got a call one 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:52.920 day from Big John John and some kind of way 0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:57.200 jay Z heard Hello Brooklyn when he was with Wayne 0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.440 one day in the studio and Wayne playing it for 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.200 him whatever, and some kind of way. 0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:03.640 Jay Z say I need. 0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:08.520 That, and Wayne gave it to him. He gave he 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:12.240 gave it to him for the It was this movie 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:18.799 that the Gainster movie, American Gangster, American Gangster. Yeah, jay 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.360 Z was doing the American Gangsters and he wanted it 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:25.440 for that movie. Man, I never met jay Z none 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:28.640 of that to this day. Oh I met him after, 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.160 but before the ND I didn't. I didn't meet him 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.080 or anything. It's just I just got a call from 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:36.720 John said, jay Z want the record. 0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:38.200 He wanted that beat, he wanted. 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:42.200 It and and Wayne, and this happened to be the 0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.879 first record that Wayne and jay Z ever did together. 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:50.040 This was the first one they ever did together. Hello Brooklyn. 0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.080 And that's how that's how it happened for me. 0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.280 Just the Lord, just just god man. 0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.080 But also the goodness of like you know again, speak 0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.680 of that relationship you Wayne and Wayne and. 0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.520 Been like oh yeah, for my for my guy. 0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.640 Because you know how people can be when they got 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:07.480 records and and they got they don't. 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:09.719 Yeah, he didn't even have to play it. 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.759 That's why I love way to people asking, man, who's 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.719 one of your faans, I say, Wayne my favorite to 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.880 this day because because he believed in me. That that 0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.719 was a low part. I think that that. I think 0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.640 then this when my brother passed and I think that 0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.360 it was in ninety six, So around that time I 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.279 lost my brother, I didn't want to do music no more. 0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:34.120 I was really going through it. It was a low 0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:38.880 time for me. So like Wayne was just one of 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:43.040 the people that that that I just there was just 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:46.839 death for me, like him, not just Wayne, but cash Money, Family. 0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:48.680 Baby, Slim. 0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:52.120 They really did when they moved to Miami, they they 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.000 really looked out for Big D. They looked out for 0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:58.000 Big D, so they do. They knew my background, they 0:35:58.040 --> 0:35:59.960 knew my story, they knew about my brother and everything. 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.799 So they just really reached out to me and really 0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.719 looked out for me. So I never got nothing bad 0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:06.720 to say about the boys. 0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:12.040 Never man out the cash Money Yeah yeah, yeah, Baby 0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:12.920 is one of those guys. 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.359 Yeah yeah, definitely Man Baby and Slim Man, Slim and 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:20.160 Slim the one like like he he don't say much, 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:23.760 but that's that boy, the one. 0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:26.960 We talked about. 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.759 We talked about that that guy don't say a whole 0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.879 lot people, but I promise you. 0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:38.759 Let me tell you Slim that that's the one, right there, yeah, man, So. 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:45.399 Then you end up we fast forward, yeah, and then 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.759 you end up pretty much your your songs are the 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.720 songs that broke the City Girls. 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.480 Wow hmm, come on. 0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:55.160 I mean, like I had never heard about the City 0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.680 Girls too. Some girl was talking about I Take Your 0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:02.480 Man and what a bad yet yeah man, And I'm like, 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:08.760 oh ship big produced yeahs. 0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:12.800 Like different type of yeah yeah, different type of longevity, 0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:19.200 different types of transformations in terms of production and musical style, 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:22.280 Like that's not that's not normal. 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.480 And that's your roots, that's the Miami sound. 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:30.600 City Girls. Like when I saw those girls, nobody might. 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.080 Be believed in them. 0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:35.400 Nobody it might be believing nobody other than me and 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:36.200 Ball Greasy. 0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:38.680 Ball Greasy and Miron was. 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.480 The one that turned me onto and and they opened 0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.480 up for Ball Greasy at the Showing Temple. They sent 0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.400 me a video of it, and all I thought about 0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:53.440 was Traina and Jackie O. You know, those are Miami 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:57.319 female legends. And at this time, no, there was no 0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:01.520 girl groups in the game, and they especially wasn't talking 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:05.560 about the stuff that the City Girls was on, like 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:07.719 like like the girls was in the game. They was 0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:09.920 real nice with it, but they weren't known that. They 0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:13.440 weren't known that. So when I got in the studio 0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:16.600 with them, man, I and you know, they taught me. 0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:20.960 The city girls taught me how to work with the 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:22.040 new generation. 0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.719 They taught me how to work with them because I 0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.440 was such, you know, coming from the school of producing 0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:33.640 and and how your hands on and you pretty much 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:34.759 want the record done like this. 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:36.600 You know what I'm saying. 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:38.880 And you know what I'm saying, like everything has to 0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:44.120 be you know, auto tune tightness all that. Dumb girls 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:48.160 taught me how the new school wanted. They not structured 0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:54.160 like that. Just let it be, man, listen, just sit 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:55.799 back and let them go in the booth and do 0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.040 what they do. Well, what the timing is not fun? 0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.360 They don't they don't move their vocals. 0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:05.319 They don't want it on beat. 0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:08.600 Yeah, they did. That's how they want it like. And 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:10.680 that was that was new for me. 0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.560 I'm like, man, that's that's off like nah nah d 0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:15.560 that's how we want it. 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.200 We want it like that. Okay, all right, y'all want 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:19.560 it like that. 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:24.080 And they taught me really how and and we just 0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:28.440 went in there. So I take your man came from idea. 0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:31.839 I have said, man, why don't y'all y'all don't even 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:32.880 thinking about Salt and Pepper. 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:34.640 They didn't even know who saltn Pepper was. 0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:40.319 They didn't know the group Salt and Pepper. Some id 0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:42.520 just said, you know what, man, I'm ana flip that 0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.840 Salt and Pepper and put these Miami girls on some 0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:50.640 New York ship and still give them that low end 0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.759 of eight o eight and they talking they ship over 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:57.919 this And that's how it came about. And I'm working 0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.000 with I'm working on their solo project. 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:01.920 Now, how was there? 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:07.520 How was the streets when city girls hit out here 0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:08.760 and you hear. 0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:09.439 It like you just see. 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:10.960 I mean, obviously you in the studio with them, like 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:14.400 you said, it's a new thing, But what was the 0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:18.240 vibe when they when they really start taking off in Miami. 0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.040 That's when you saw females taking over. 0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:23.000 Mm hmm. 0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:27.879 That's what that's that's that's when it started. You could 0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:33.960 see that the females coming. Guys, the men rappers, y'all 0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:35.719 going to take a back seat for a minute because 0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:37.279 they're on some new ship. 0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:42.640 Everything you hearing down college across the bridge, every ass 0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:44.440 a city girls, all city girls. 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.719 Because now everybody wants to be a city girl. Everybody. 0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:51.239 Yeah, yeah, everybody listen, even even the C suite women, 0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:56.600 the women that out here CEOs quietly, they somewhere listening 0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:59.120 to city girls, city girls about acting up. 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.319 We didn't take your Yeah, I see it. 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.000 So it's like I'm sitting back looking at it and 0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:08.600 sitting in the clubs just looking at Hi'm like, damn, 0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.080 it's crazy. 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:11.879 Yeah. 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.600 Now, your career has been amazing, bro, Yeah, what you've 0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:19.799 done in this game. You can't just put your hand 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.760 on it either and say, oh, he does that, because 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:25.400 there's so many different type of records that you've done. 0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:26.680 I mean, you've even done a record for me. 0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.080 Yeah, come on talking about it. 0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:32.640 Come on with this pimpo Yeah yeah, you know with 0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:38.600 me and Snoop Dogg, you know Static Magic, they put 0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.600 me out to Miami man, and you know got in 0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.359 with with with Jim Johnson, dre Yes. 0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:48.759 Man, it was I had a time. I had a time, man, 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:50.799 I had a time out here. We spent a whole 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:57.160 bunch of money on that budget. Though we spent You 0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:58.320 had it, you had. 0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:07.720 You record, you sid. 0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.719 Larry like you gotta you gotta get in, you gotta 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.680 get in with Jim Johnson and Big T. Come on, man, 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.279 I said, listen, I love what they've done. Put me 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:17.720 in with them for the show. 0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:18.480 Now. 0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:21.440 We had a great time, man, And I always appreciated 0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:21.880 that moment. 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:23.239 Man, y'all was always super cool. 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:28.000 Definitely, and you know, we got a chance to really 0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:31.160 connect and then me being able to see you know, 0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:35.960 because I didn't, I didn't fully understand what you were 0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:41.040 involved in, just from the from the musician side and 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.000 being able to appreciate that. Like Tank was saying earlier, Man, 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:49.320 like you you're the original R and B Live of Miami. 0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:51.600 It's a real thing. 0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:52.600 Yeah, yeah, yah. 0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.359 I do it every Wednesday night still to this day. 0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:58.640 Every Wednesday night, I got a show. It's called Session 0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:03.920 Okay with My Lives. My Own Lives band and the 0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:07.719 performance artists has just come through and telling people where 0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:12.360 Studio one e three, Miami, wednesdaynight. Matter of fact, tonight 0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.600 we in that tonight dope I got a lot of 0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.720 the spot is called it's because the spot is called studio. 0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:23.720 It's owned by Floor Rider Flo Floor Riding Freezy Spot. 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.279 Yeah, it's a dope spot. Man. 0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.600 So Wednesday night we do nothing but R and B music, 0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:37.000 DJ Nasty We do r B list if y'all ain dow, y'all. 0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.840 Gotta come through. When do you start? What time you start? 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:40.279 Like? 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.680 Well, no, no, what what what you to? 0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:52.400 Whatever? You'll just come by, you know. You know what 0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.040 I'm saying. Listen, I got Listen, I got the coldest 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.360 music with that young girl saying I'm out here in Miami. 0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.680 Listen, I got the dopest musicians. Like maybe we did 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:08.120 a wedding. Many Yeah, me and Tank we did a wedding. 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.160 Listen this wedd It was incredible. The Tank was on 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.279 the stage with us on with the band man when 0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:17.799 I tell you, something happened and just made us made 0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:21.840 up a song. Something happened with the with the usher 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:25.120 one of the other or no, somebody was somebody was park. 0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:31.000 Wrong telling about the car. Take the whole song. He 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.120 did a whole song by this person that was parking. 0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:37.080 He was, Yo, this that's crazy. Sound like him. 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.080 Because I didn't know what was going I walked in. 0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:43.239 I walked in and I'm like, yeah, just make sure 0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:44.279 you got to keep board from me. You know what 0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:45.680 I'm saying. So I do my thing. I don't know 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:47.560 what you know with what the musicality gonna be? Like 0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:49.680 I walked in and it's him. I was like, ah, 0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:54.560 I was like, I'm singing the whole night. 0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:56.760 Let's go, Let's go. And then he had some singers 0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:00.400 with him that was off the chain, kill what he 0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:02.600 was always wanted to do, like what so on? When 0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:04.960 we came up, man, we did the whole show. Bro. 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:08.440 I saw him, I said, let's cook, let's cook. 0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:12.200 Yeah man, you know yo yo that that ship was incredible, 0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.480 So like, no, we do that. That's my thing, man, 0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.279 doing a lot of music. But no, here's the funny part. 0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:18.640 Yeah. 0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.640 I was like, I'm looking around, I'm like, why does 0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:23.200 this look like a music video? 0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:25.680 And it was like Big D loves to have smoke. 0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:32.120 When Big D he's sitting right there and it's just 0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:39.280 smoke all around me, the smoking somebody's wedding. 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.000 I said, where's the smoke coming from? Well, you know, 0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.279 Big D loves to have smoke when he's so what 0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:49.080 is he just like to appear like? What is I 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:54.400 just like the the aura? Yeah? Yeah, yes man, yeah yeah. 0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.879 I just feel like you you appreciate the music better 0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:59.120 when when they're smoke. 0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:02.080 Yeah, you know what I mean It's just something about 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:05.120 the atmosphere of it. Yeah. I was trying to Bro. 0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:11.480 We're at a wedding, somebody's wedding, man, and there's smoke. 0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:14.200 I'm like niggas going to the buffet. Bro, you got 0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:19.239 somebody asked me to come perform that. You gotta have 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:19.960 a smoke machine. 0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:23.279 You have to Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta a rider, yes, 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:32.160 he said, I said, I said, but is. 0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:37.040 This smoke on fire? Man? I looked over in the 0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:46.759 smoke like Rick James, James bitch the bag guitarp. Now 0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:51.879 he is in the smoke. Yeah, I gotta have my smoke. Man. 0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:56.200 This is a music video right now. This is setting 0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.760 setting the tone in the atmosphere. 0:46:59.080 --> 0:46:59.600 I love it. 0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.919 Bro, get no argument out of me. So listen, here's 0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:06.359 here's my here's my thing. Pull up my little keyboard. Here, 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:10.880 here's my thing. Brother. You know, Jay just spoke about, 0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:15.359 you know, having a record with you, you know, come get 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.480 to this pimping. You know what I'm saying. And I 0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.600 feel like I feel like half of the Army Money 0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:23.760 podcast has a record with you and the other half doesn't. 0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.520 So I'm gonna just, you know, just throw this out there. 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.080 You know what I'm saying, there needs to be some balance. 0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:31.960 You know, we level you know, level this thing out 0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:35.240 that even if it's if it's a J and Tank record, 0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:37.279 you know what I'm saying, it's gotta be you know, 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:38.919 we gotta close this gap. 0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:44.279 Brother, Yes, and listen, consider that done. 0:47:56.200 --> 0:48:03.399 Get into pig D's LAMB can't recorded just in case. 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:15.080 Yeah, big Da, You've been all over the world and 0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.720 now you for some of the biggest artists in the world. 0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:28.200 My brother. You you make music and you create an 0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:36.719 atmosphere that's so smoky. But now if people want to know, yes, 0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:38.560 yes you're. 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:57.200 MH top five, your top five, Top five, your top 0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:00.640 five rping. 0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:04.960 R and B song show. 0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:12.040 We got a new He's Dollar show Wednesday night school. 0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:30.640 We're going to know your top five. When he asks, right, smoke, you're. 0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:35.200 Tip four. 0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:56.640 H thank, I would agree, top big deal, your top five. 0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:01.520 R and B singer. Alright, listen, come go to go 0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:06.759 to the text. My top five is surely season. Yeah, 0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:11.480 Donny has the way I see where you see what 0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:13.400 he's Yeah, you kind of see where he's going with this. 0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:18.680 You're not you know, I'm a Stevie Won the type 0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:26.560 of guy I just love Stevie, I love Marvin Wynings. 0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:27.960 What what you mean? 0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:29.640 Yeah? 0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:34.520 For me, like most of my top singer gospel scene 0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:38.880 should because you know what I'm saying, and and and 0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:44.279 and who else singing one more? You got one more? 0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:51.400 One more more, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go jazz 0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:55.520 Main Jazell. I'm gonna go jazz Man. 0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:02.640 Just for me, just for that. Just you know what 0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:04.520 I'm saying. She's a killer. 0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:07.239 And I didn't know I had to do top five 0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:11.359 RB singers, so I'm just really off the dome. 0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:13.200 You know what I'm saying? 0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:17.120 Like that, I wouldn't that I wouldn't mind saying. When 0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.680 I think about singers, I think about who I wouldn't 0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:22.120 mind listening to you thank you want them to. 0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:24.840 I wouldn't mind just listening to for two three. 0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:28.840 Hours at a concert sing Yes, some singers like I 0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:30.040 can hear a couple of songs of this. 0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:34.439 So when I think about Jay that south lest top 0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:39.600 five R and B songs, Okay, I will close down. 0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:43.279 I got the Yeah, I'm gonna tell you right now. 0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:52.880 Purple Ring, Yeah, Purple Ring. I want to be close. Switch. 0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.279 You know I love Switch. I don't know. 0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:10.160 Anything about fire and desire. Yes, Ricke, Rick. 0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:14.640 Shangee Marie the most underrated singer of all times. All 0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:17.239 you think Rick is underrated. 0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:20.399 More underrated than James Brown because James Brown underrated to people, 0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:22.200 don't bring in James Brown's but I mean, here's the. 0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:25.480 Thing though, James Brown has a title in front of 0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:29.920 his name, the Godfather, right, so they're there in itself 0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:33.120 is flowers out of this world, right, There is no 0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:34.759 title in front of Rick. 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:38.440 James's name is James. 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:41.560 I can remember, I can remember exactly where I was 0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:47.640 was singing boys the Man into the role, Yeah, Chicago. 0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:53.600 Okay, if you leave me now you take away. The 0:52:53.840 --> 0:53:01.040 biggest part of me I was school. I was on 0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:04.560 a school bus. Man, I was on school. That's my 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:05.720 top five song. 0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:08.000 Me. 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:11.920 He shout out to the bus driver for playing playing 0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:15.640 right for the kids. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Going to 0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:18.920 middle school. He's playing that. He's playing on the on 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.000 the bus, like what you kids want to hear. 0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:25.399 It's crazy because it's like those songs, those tunes right there, 0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:30.040 like they they do something to you as a kid 0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:32.840 that you don't know. You don't know what's going to realize, 0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:34.799 what is what's in you. Let's get to let's get 0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:37.040 to your vultron brother. We're gonna build your super R 0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:39.800 and B artists. Because we build your super R and 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:41.400 B artists. We want to know who you're going to 0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:44.400 get the vocal from, Who you're gonna get the performance 0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:47.839 style from, who you're gonna get the styling from, who 0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:50.360 you're gonna get the passion of the artists from, and 0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:55.040 who's going to produce for this artist. Who you're gonna 0:53:55.040 --> 0:54:00.719 beat the vocal from. For your vultrans out there. That's 0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:05.240 how you're gonna do. That's how you're acting, right whatever. Okay, okay, 0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:14.840 play with it. Soul stirring vocal, soul stirring performance style. 0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:20.480 You know, performance You can't gotta go m J got 0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:25.520 Donnie on the vocal, m J on the feet, got 0:54:25.680 --> 0:54:29.480 it all right, They can't play with j Man styling 0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:34.680 Stalind for me for me is Jodasy. 0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:40.680 For all of us. Styland for me is Jodas. Go 0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:42.480 back to the episode we had k c on here 0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:44.120 we dressed up as Jodas. Yeah, we had. 0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:47.280 I didn't even see that. We thought we was members. 0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:51.080 I see wow, wow. I didn't play with it right 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:52.399 like when they came. 0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:56.120 When they came with that style, I couldn't afford the leather, 0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:58.239 but I definitely wore all black. 0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:01.879 You can't now. I can now find me some leather 0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:03.480 overalls when you get a second. 0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:04.239 Huh. 0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:09.520 They changed everything, changed everything that people don't know that 0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:12.120 like like the boys yo to see, they changed. 0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:18.640 They changed a lot, changed meat, the passion. 0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:21.560 Of the artists, the passion. I haven't been around no 0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:27.520 one in his music game with the passion like Shirley Season, 0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:34.680 not with the passion that lady listen. I used to think. 0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:38.319 I used to think Shirley was on drugs. I used 0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:40.880 to think she was on coke. I used to be 0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:44.200 in church, watch your perform and I used to tell 0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:46.680 I used to tell my brothers say, ain't no way 0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:48.920 that lady performing like they ain't on something. 0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:50.799 No way. 0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:56.440 Until I start working with her and being around her 0:55:56.600 --> 0:56:00.200 and I got to know her and her passion. It's 0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:03.200 so incredible, man, It's just what she was. That's just 0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:08.680 who she is, like like and and like. And I've 0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:11.239 been around a lot of people, man, like a lot 0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:14.160 of artists I've been around, and I ain't been around 0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:16.759 nobody as passionate as that lady man when it comes 0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:19.680 to the Lord and loving God and loving what she do, 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:22.520 like her passion for what she does. 0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:32.080 Wow, I learned so much being around Shirley past the season. Wow. 0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:41.160 Who's producing for this artist? Terry Lewis. Yeah, I'm only 0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:46.400 a human, I'm young. Yeah, I'm just in the cut learning. 0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:52.560 You talk about a body of work top top to bottom. 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:54.880 The sound Jam and Lewis, Man, Jam and Lewis. 0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:58.600 Of course he got something else here. 0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:00.560 Come on taking back to each other, tacond back to 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:02.680 your he was on the road, you know what I 0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:04.200 mean in the church bus. 0:57:17.680 --> 0:57:24.120 Grass, I ain't saying no Nixon. I ain't saying no nigh. 0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:27.280 I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no name. 0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:36.440 We please with what you did? Don't say sheep. I 0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:37.840 ain't saying no names. 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:53.160 Hey, yeah, yo, So it's that time. It's that times. 0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:57.200 We're at the segment segments. Card, I ain't saying no names. 0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:01.280 Will you tell us a story? Me coming over here? 0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:05.720 This was the main thing I struggled with why I 0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:11.800 was coming over here, because the majority of my stories 0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:15.520 is crazy crazy. We definitely ain't saying o names. Okay, Well, 0:58:15.680 --> 0:58:16.520 let me introduce you first. 0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:18.320 Let me is this for you? You know what I mean, 0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:20.320 because you know, we gotta make it. You know, we can't. 0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:22.520 We can't short you. You know what I'm saying. You 0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:24.400 got all right, you know what I mean? 0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:26.920 So this is this is I ain't saying no names? 0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:30.560 Will you tell us a story? Funny and fucked up? 0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:36.200 Are funny and fucked up? In the Journey Times, Big 0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:40.200 d The only rule to the game. You can't say 0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:40.720 no names? 0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:41.080 Got you? 0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:44.280 The only rule to the game. I was scheduled to 0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:47.800 work with this artist, right, it's a major artist that 0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:49.920 they call me. Do you want you to get in 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:53.360 with this artist? Okay, it's not the only thing. This 0:58:53.600 --> 0:59:01.280 artist she's she's a little crazy, like you know, she 0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:05.800 she she'de got into it with a few people, you know, 0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:11.840 stabbed some people and you know, put just crazy, you 0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:14.840 know what I mean, Like, you know, if we ain't 0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:20.000 saying no name, but you know, but she dope though 0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:22.320 these so I know, like, you know, if you get 0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:25.440 in with her whatever. So I did my own research 0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:30.040 about her. It's like, man, stab this person, stab that person. 0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:32.040 You know, she kind of out. 0:59:31.880 --> 0:59:38.640 There, you know, all cool, all right? So the day 0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:44.720 of the session. I'm always being born and raised in Miami, 0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:49.320 you learn to carry a gun quick. Yeah, that's just nature, 0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:52.920 Like if you're living in this city. So I'm known, 0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:56.000 people tell you about. I'm a gun collector. I love 0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:58.880 collecting guns, going to the gun shows and everything. So 0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:01.920 I I say, you know, we're not gonna what I'm 1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:05.040 gonna do is this particular session, I'm gonna have my 1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:13.040 gun on the board the console, So understanding right out 1:00:13.080 --> 1:00:17.920 the gate, Right right out the gate, we're gonna have 1:00:18.080 --> 1:00:21.120 a We're gonna have an understanding soon as say walk in. 1:00:22.040 --> 1:00:24.400 You know what I'm saying, like, this is how I'm 1:00:24.440 --> 1:00:27.600 such and such. Yeah, I'm big d you know. Right 1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:30.000 out the gate, let's establish some things, you know what 1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:34.080 I mean. We're here to do songs and and so 1:00:34.200 --> 1:00:37.400 when they saw the whatever, so like that's pretty much 1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:42.280 how relationship started. Like they were like, man, you're crazy, 1:00:42.320 --> 1:00:45.280 I can't believe you, you know, And we really became 1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:46.800 friends after. 1:00:46.960 --> 1:00:49.000 But that's how we met each other. 1:00:49.200 --> 1:00:53.120 That's how session started, and that's how we became friends 1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:55.680 from that right there. 1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:56.080 That's it. 1:00:56.640 --> 1:01:01.000 She understood that I will in the water play with 1:01:01.520 --> 1:01:05.480 and I understood who she was and now since we 1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:09.760 got past that, not let's write some ship and do 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:10.480 some records. 1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:17.439 Records, music business. It's a music business. You're not gonna 1:01:17.440 --> 1:01:17.800 stab me. 1:01:17.960 --> 1:01:18.200 You know. 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:24.800 That's not happening. Listen. I can go wherever you want 1:01:24.840 --> 1:01:27.840 to go. But now what you want to do? You 1:01:27.920 --> 1:01:32.360 want to start here, you want and that's how you 1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:35.160 know what, And that's how O sessions started. And you know, 1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:36.000 we've been friends. 1:01:36.520 --> 1:01:38.680 Like we laugh about it, but I haven't seen it 1:01:38.680 --> 1:01:40.280 in a while, but whenever we do see each other, 1:01:40.360 --> 1:01:42.800 we always know that is great. 1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:44.240 And that's. 1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:48.600 And that was the only story. Like I got plenty stories, 1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:50.480 but that was the only one that I felt like 1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:55.000 it wasn't too crazy because my other stories is really 1:01:55.360 --> 1:01:55.680 I had. 1:01:55.600 --> 1:01:56.560 A great resolve too. 1:01:56.960 --> 1:01:59.960 You guys got some stuff done, your friends lessons of 1:02:00.080 --> 1:02:01.200 redemptive qualities in. 1:02:01.240 --> 1:02:03.160 This you can tell us the other stories, like. 1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:08.880 Ye brother, you I mean you you're a gym brother. 1:02:09.040 --> 1:02:11.480 You know what I'm saying. Y'all for having me. 1:02:11.560 --> 1:02:15.280 Man, I've never I've never did this, like a podcast 1:02:15.400 --> 1:02:17.960 thing like this, Like I've always been the person that 1:02:18.240 --> 1:02:21.080 I never did want to do interviews and talk like 1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:24.760 because I'm not it's man, for y'all to call me like, 1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:31.800 I really appreciate. I appreciate, appreciate that, man, because you 1:02:31.880 --> 1:02:36.080 don't know who people acknowledge your talent and work like that. 1:02:36.160 --> 1:02:39.040 And I appreciate y'all giving me my flowers like this, man, 1:02:39.080 --> 1:02:41.880 because this is an honor to me. Like I saw 1:02:42.000 --> 1:02:45.960 y'all lined up the people y'all interviewed, and I've always said, man, 1:02:45.960 --> 1:02:50.040 I shouldn't even be on that, man, But I just 1:02:50.200 --> 1:02:53.560 I like, man, I really appreciate what y'all doing, man, 1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:55.320 and and I'm honored to be here. 1:02:55.400 --> 1:02:55.480 Man. 1:02:55.520 --> 1:02:57.560 I appreciate y'all for having me here. Man, thank you, 1:02:57.680 --> 1:02:59.880 thank you, I said, listen, man, we appreciate you. 1:03:00.080 --> 1:03:02.800 We got workship do but I promise you this, if 1:03:03.120 --> 1:03:06.360 we got an hour and some change, we're gonna pull 1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:08.439 up tonight and see see what you're doing. 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:08.800 You know what. 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:13.560 They got good food there too. They got good food there, yo, listen, 1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:18.560 they got the best food. It's like, hold on, y'all, 1:03:18.760 --> 1:03:21.800 y'all don't know about finger lickings. Of course, this is 1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:25.920 class class freezing. 1:03:26.120 --> 1:03:28.800 That's the class. That's his brother floor, right, they all 1:03:28.960 --> 1:03:34.040 it's all the family thing. The food is incredible. You 1:03:34.400 --> 1:03:36.160 just come out for like an hour. They got that 1:03:36.240 --> 1:03:40.200 real sweet drink that they have at the liquors. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:03:40.240 --> 1:03:44.400 They call that the misty, the misty, what is it? 1:03:44.480 --> 1:03:46.360 What is it? Lobster bikes? They got it the liquors. 1:03:47.600 --> 1:03:49.440 You know you're right across the street. I know what's 1:03:49.480 --> 1:03:53.200 going on. Come on, come on. You know I've been 1:03:53.240 --> 1:03:55.640 moving around down here too big. You know what I'm saying. 1:03:56.160 --> 1:04:01.280 You know, you know I know the landlord, but I 1:04:02.840 --> 1:04:04.920 know the Landlord. But I got a unit in here. 1:04:05.000 --> 1:04:05.320 Man, I. 1:04:09.240 --> 1:04:12.960 Keep forgetting tasting me. Like listen, man, y'all gotta come 1:04:13.040 --> 1:04:16.439 pull up on me to done. I won't, I won't. 1:04:16.560 --> 1:04:18.120 I will trust me. I want to announce it. I 1:04:18.160 --> 1:04:19.040 want no good. 1:04:20.560 --> 1:04:22.480 Come fellowship with our brother, come fellowship. 1:04:22.680 --> 1:04:26.360 Let's stage. Listen. The band is incredible. Yeah, I believe it. 1:04:27.120 --> 1:04:30.280 And y'all gonna love the y'all gonna love the scenery. 1:04:30.760 --> 1:04:34.440 Man, it's nice, some nice scenery. What the Lord is doing. 1:04:34.480 --> 1:04:37.320 I know what he's doing. Yeah, I know what he's doing. 1:04:38.520 --> 1:04:38.720 Yeah. 1:04:39.440 --> 1:04:44.800 The Lord delivers this those feet ever so softmen. Yeah, 1:04:45.240 --> 1:04:47.720 he provides because I know it's something in the water 1:04:47.840 --> 1:04:48.200 down here. 1:04:48.720 --> 1:04:52.640 You're gonna love the festival. Yeah, it is natural. Give 1:04:52.680 --> 1:04:55.919 it to him out the wound. Yes, yes, hey man, 1:04:57.800 --> 1:04:58.680 please come by. 1:04:59.240 --> 1:05:01.920 We're gonna be here for prayer. Also there if you 1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:05.520 need prayer tonight is a man, it will be a 1:05:05.600 --> 1:05:06.200 prayer line. 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:06.960 Man. Listen. 1:05:07.080 --> 1:05:08.680 If if y'all need me to sit in a car 1:05:08.840 --> 1:05:13.840 or something, let me know. I said, we appreciate you, brother, 1:05:14.880 --> 1:05:18.440 we are we this is this is much needed. We 1:05:18.960 --> 1:05:20.520 you know, and I know you don't do this and 1:05:20.600 --> 1:05:23.200 so you pulling up. We appreciate you taking your time, 1:05:23.520 --> 1:05:25.479 but also we just want to let you know, brother, 1:05:25.880 --> 1:05:26.680 you deserve this. 1:05:27.000 --> 1:05:28.880 Thank you, man, You deserve this. People. 1:05:29.360 --> 1:05:32.520 People need to hear your conversation and understand who you are. 1:05:32.840 --> 1:05:35.200 Put a face to the hits into the moments, and 1:05:35.360 --> 1:05:38.680 understand when they see you. The respect is you know 1:05:38.720 --> 1:05:40.880 what I'm saying. We finish work though, man, Yeah, I 1:05:41.000 --> 1:05:43.720 know we already. Yeah, yeah, I don't listen. I don't 1:05:43.720 --> 1:05:45.080 doubt you, brother, We're getting ready to work. 1:05:45.160 --> 1:05:47.720 I don't doubt you. Listen. I'm more excited about that 1:05:47.840 --> 1:05:50.200 than we never work. 1:05:50.240 --> 1:05:53.120 We never really and I want, like, I can't wait 1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:55.240 to get on the phone with Lamb and say, listen, man, listen, 1:05:55.280 --> 1:05:57.480 we Finn go in with Tank. We really we getting ready, 1:05:58.080 --> 1:05:59.880 were getting ready to create some magic. 1:06:00.480 --> 1:06:10.320 Make me change my flight man, make me stay extra 1:06:10.480 --> 1:06:13.320 time you call the way named Big D. I can't 1:06:13.880 --> 1:06:15.880 big with Big D say you gotta stay. He got 1:06:15.920 --> 1:06:17.760 a gun on the console like you gotta stay. 1:06:17.840 --> 1:06:18.480 You can't. 1:06:20.320 --> 1:06:20.360 Know? 1:06:22.680 --> 1:06:26.760 Yeah, thank you brother. My name is and this is 1:06:26.800 --> 1:06:29.200 the R V Money podcast, the authority on all things 1:06:29.400 --> 1:06:29.720 R and B. 1:06:30.480 --> 1:06:34.600 This has been a brother much deserving of every flower, 1:06:34.640 --> 1:06:38.160 imaginable man, a good brother, awesome brother man, uh an 1:06:38.160 --> 1:06:40.200 amazing talent with a gift man, Big D. 1:06:40.840 --> 1:06:45.960 What's up? Thank you? R and B Money. 1:06:47.120 --> 1:06:48.880 R and B Money is a production of the Black 1:06:48.960 --> 1:06:53.560 Effect podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit 1:06:53.640 --> 1:06:57.440 the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to 1:06:57.520 --> 1:07:00.640 your favorite shows. 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