Speaker 1: R and B Money.
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Speaker 3: This is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority
Speaker 3: on all things R and B Miami Edition.
Speaker 1: Where were my miam Me?
Speaker 3: As when you come down to the three oh five,
Speaker 3: you know what you gotta do, and you want to
Speaker 3: talk that music? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 3: want to talk that musician. Ship it's a man. It's
Speaker 3: a Man's a man. It's a name that comes up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ten out of ten times, sir, hit records are listen
Speaker 3: to R and B Live before R and B Live
Speaker 3: All the Lawn edit.
Speaker 1: I was with you, man, you with me? Make some noise?
Speaker 1: Ward brother, big be in the building. Man, come on, man, wow,
Speaker 1: that was yeah you big day.
Speaker 3: Like, man, I don't even be you know, I don't
Speaker 3: be doing a whole lot of talk.
Speaker 1: I just about that. Actually, I just do a whole
Speaker 1: lot of work and I'm on it.
Speaker 4: Man. Just to be sitting here with y'all. Man, it's like,
Speaker 4: I really don't do this, Like this is like kind
Speaker 4: of new for me. Just sit sitting down, you know,
Speaker 4: interviewing and talking to the podcast, man, like, I love
Speaker 4: what y'all doing, man, and thank you man. I'm just
Speaker 4: trying to recoup from the intro. That was incredible.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: But I just heah, I appreciate you all for having me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but listen, I think you know us knowing you
Speaker 3: for as long as we have us knowing, us, knowing
Speaker 3: the work, us knowing the spirit. You know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying of a man like this is you. You're somebody
Speaker 3: who people need to hear from. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: and understand that they've been hearing from you.
Speaker 1: They just just know it. We're gonna make the connection.
Speaker 1: Oh that's him. That's him.
Speaker 3: I remember singing at your uh, your arm, you're live.
Speaker 1: Who else?
Speaker 3: Somebody was there? Kicky Wyatt? It was ki Ki Wyatt, yo,
Speaker 3: like when I was there. Yeah, I think she might
Speaker 3: have called me on stage or something, and you called
Speaker 3: me on stage or something and we got we got
Speaker 3: to get into it. But it's like every time I
Speaker 3: see here's the crazy part and we and we you know,
Speaker 3: we always go back to the beginning because we want
Speaker 3: to know where it started.
Speaker 1: But every time I see.
Speaker 3: You, you've had major success in the music business, you've
Speaker 3: had hit records after hit it, you have hit records.
Speaker 3: You do not have to be a working traveling musician.
Speaker 3: You do not have to B and I will. You
Speaker 3: will be in the most Randoms at a wedding Ross
Speaker 3: Randoms bus as the lead musician.
Speaker 1: Like rocking like music you really love you really love
Speaker 1: the music.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is listen, this is all I know.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: You know I came out to church. You know, my
Speaker 4: mother she raised two boys, me and my brother. My
Speaker 4: brother's two years younger than younger than me. God bless
Speaker 4: it there. Like he passed in ninety six. He was
Speaker 4: on the Value Jet flight that went down in Evergladesh.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: And and that was my only brother. My brother was
Speaker 4: a keyboard player. He was the musical director for Vanessa
Speaker 4: No no, no, congratulations.
Speaker 1: What's that girl? The lady Williams.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my brother was her m d. He was the
Speaker 4: day and then my brother used to travel with B.
Speaker 1: B and C. C.
Speaker 4: Winings and I was traveling with Shirley Caesar and I.
Speaker 1: Was traveling with the Winings. You're traveling with Shirley seas.
Speaker 4: Like like I was with Shirley for years when I
Speaker 4: was young, like seventeen years coming out of high school,
Speaker 4: I started traveling and I went out with her, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Then when I with her, and
Speaker 4: then I went out with with with the Winings, and
Speaker 4: and that's that's like like I grew up that kind
Speaker 4: of music, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So like, but let's not let's not just gloss over
Speaker 3: to Shirley, Caesar and the Winings, because that was the top,
Speaker 3: real that was the top of the food chain at
Speaker 3: that time, and you're not no regular musician going on
Speaker 3: the road with them.
Speaker 1: I grew I grew up under that.
Speaker 4: I grew up You gotta be special, Yeah, I grew
Speaker 4: up under. I grew up under that. The Shirley Season,
Speaker 4: James Cleveland Clark System.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I grew up on.
Speaker 4: The under that type of Yeah you was a guy, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 4: So that's so it's just always been in me like that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: So it's like like like even to even to this day,
Speaker 4: like my me me doing live music against my that's
Speaker 4: that's what I love to do. Like I love to
Speaker 4: be on stage playing, you know, doing live performances. That's
Speaker 4: my passion. That's so it's all it's just in me, man,
Speaker 4: Like That's all I know. So how do you go
Speaker 4: from Shirley Caesar and the Whinings to then becoming a
Speaker 4: super producer?
Speaker 1: How do you? How does how do you make that transition?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you for me, this how it started
Speaker 4: for me, Like my mother used to always. First of all,
Speaker 4: my dad was a was a singer. My mother was
Speaker 4: a piano player. So I used to grow up on
Speaker 4: listening to real music, like like like my mom used
Speaker 4: to play the the emotion all the time. She used
Speaker 4: to play I forgot she used to play this song
Speaker 4: the time is right, I forgot who the artist is.
Speaker 4: But I grew up just on all that type of stuff.
Speaker 4: I grew up on the Eagles, I grew up on Chicago,
Speaker 4: the Group of Chicago, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 4: I was I was always into music like that, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Growing up and coming out of
Speaker 4: Miami that was different because Miami music is bass music.
Speaker 4: I came up in that, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So we wasn't known for R and B music. And
Speaker 4: you know our R and B hero was Michael Sterling
Speaker 4: and Miss b Betty Wright. That's our hero in music
Speaker 4: in R and B, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, I came up like that, you know,
Speaker 4: doing music, so you know, to make the transition, you know,
Speaker 4: learning how to do rap music with That's when I
Speaker 4: became I started working with Trick Daddy and and Trina
Speaker 4: and and and my mindset. It's like, man, I don't
Speaker 4: really understand this rap.
Speaker 1: Ship when you first jumped in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I just knew music like Earth, Winn and
Speaker 4: Fire was like like my Jimmy Jammer, Terriss Lewis.
Speaker 1: Lewis was my idol.
Speaker 4: I always like always want I say, man, I always
Speaker 4: I want to beat them dudes. I want to produce
Speaker 4: like them cats, like I something about like they sound.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was Jimmy jam Terry Lewis and Maurice White, like
Speaker 4: like the way they produced, the way the sound. I said, man,
Speaker 4: I want my music to sound like that. I don't
Speaker 4: know how, you know what I mean. So that's how
Speaker 4: I came up, you know what I mean. And and
Speaker 4: I just took that all land and tried to, you know,
Speaker 4: navigate through this Miami scene of music. And that's that's
Speaker 4: pretty much how I kind of got started.
Speaker 2: So ultimately there were no R and B singers, no
Speaker 2: out here at that point.
Speaker 4: No, not in Miami. It was all dope dealers and rappers.
Speaker 4: Like I grew up. I grew up around killers, dope
Speaker 4: dealers and rappers. Like that's all I know.
Speaker 2: So are you producing just like for the neighborhood rappers
Speaker 2: at this point.
Speaker 1: Or how do you get producing your first record? My
Speaker 1: first message?
Speaker 4: I mean my first I would say my first major
Speaker 4: record was Trick Daddy.
Speaker 3: Let's go, okay, what's your first place? What's your first
Speaker 3: first placement? I know it was a brown bag like
Speaker 3: a paper bag. Somebody brought you. Somebody brought you a place.
Speaker 3: It is a place, somebody paid you money your podcast exactly.
Speaker 4: I had a lot of brown bag you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, street casts coming up, like you would like
Speaker 4: if you you, if you, if you from you know,
Speaker 4: like like the G Shorties they call it G Shorties
Speaker 4: and they was like some some cases cats out of Miami,
Speaker 4: and they was like, really my first bag bag, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, So and and and what's what's
Speaker 4: that run about? The G Show is right? Like I
Speaker 4: didn't know how to produce rap music at all. They
Speaker 4: just love my music that I was. I was producing.
Speaker 1: Music, man. They was.
Speaker 4: They were from forty fourth Street and Seventh Avenue, and
Speaker 4: they were like, d Man, we want you to do
Speaker 4: our ship.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I say, oh, man, I don't know ship about rap music. Man.
Speaker 4: Nah Man, you figured out then They was like, man,
Speaker 4: listen to that swave house ship. So I started listening
Speaker 4: to you know what I'm saying, that was musical to
Speaker 4: and then they felt like my music was like that
Speaker 4: type of ship.
Speaker 1: So I was like, who the swave was was?
Speaker 4: So I started listening to that, man, and and you know,
Speaker 4: That's how I kind of try to put in my
Speaker 4: music game.
Speaker 1: What were you using to produce?
Speaker 4: I was short live ship, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Back back then we was on with Daity Yeah yeah, yeah, ca.
Speaker 4: It was the rolling rolling.
Speaker 1: It was a deal rolling. It was rolling something.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what. You didn't have no studio or nothing. Nah,
Speaker 4: I was just going in different studios and you.
Speaker 1: Were just laying down track for track live.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't really have my own studio
Speaker 4: until like like in the early nineties, and I built
Speaker 4: my own little studio I didn't. I didn't have it.
Speaker 4: I didn't have my own studio till the end, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So it wasn't until it wasn't
Speaker 4: until like and I was still like getting I was
Speaker 4: still getting the brown paper bags. I wasn'tetting no placements
Speaker 4: and that like that. I didn't know what that was, right,
Speaker 4: I didn't know how to do it. I was making
Speaker 4: so much money doing street records, and I ain't know how.
Speaker 4: I ain't know what the other ship was until you know,
Speaker 4: I ran in the trick and ted ted to ce
Speaker 4: Off Slipper Slide and and started working with them.
Speaker 1: That record was a smash.
Speaker 2: Let's go as a smash, I used to this day.
Speaker 2: You can't go into an arena and not here Let's go,
Speaker 2: I used to.
Speaker 4: I was just always playing guitars, my main musician, my
Speaker 4: main instrument. So I would create all my music from
Speaker 4: the guitar. So I used to always love that Ozzie
Speaker 4: Osborne and and so I just stopped, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So we're in the studio, me and Jim Johnson.
Speaker 3: We were just we just stopped, you said, me and
Speaker 3: Jim Johnson, how do you and Jim Johnson get in
Speaker 3: the studio.
Speaker 1: That's a legend. That's that's that's a legendary. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you the sturb.
Speaker 4: Me and Jim, Right. So, Jim used to produce this
Speaker 4: group at the time. There wasn't Pretty Ricky. It was
Speaker 4: they was called something Pretty Ricky and the Mavericks, and
Speaker 4: they were doing rap music. So Jim was producing their
Speaker 4: rap music. This was before Pleasure. Pleasure wasn't in the
Speaker 4: group's at this point. It's all They all rappers, and
Speaker 4: so Jim was producing them or whatever. And so so
Speaker 4: I was doing my little R and B thing or whatever.
Speaker 4: So Blue, Baby Blue came to me and said, man, we
Speaker 4: need some beats. Man, can you send us some beasts
Speaker 4: or whatever? So I was like, all right, man, I mean,
Speaker 4: y'all rappers, So I don't know where I could send you,
Speaker 4: but I just seen you, uh some stuff or whatever.
Speaker 1: So Baby Blue heard the grind, the grind.
Speaker 4: On me music, you know what I'm saying, And and
Speaker 4: and and when he heard that, he called, I guess
Speaker 4: he called Pleasure or whatever. And Pleasure. When Pleasure heard it,
Speaker 4: Pleasure just started sucking with the vibe of and putting
Speaker 4: the hook on it and that.
Speaker 1: Type of thing.
Speaker 4: And he wasn't even in the group. He just came
Speaker 4: up with a hook when he he blue was going
Speaker 4: through different beasts and Pleasure told him play that one
Speaker 4: right there, and and it was grind on Me and
Speaker 4: and and that's really so that's how me and generally
Speaker 4: started working together. Because when when grind on Me was
Speaker 4: their single, Power ninety six kind of blew it up
Speaker 4: on the radio or whatever. So when Craig Common came
Speaker 4: down to see the group pretty ricky, he was like, well,
Speaker 4: let me hear some more music. So the other music
Speaker 4: was a lot of rap music because no one expected
Speaker 4: them to be an R and B group and Pleasure
Speaker 4: ple was gonna be the lead singer. It wasn't they didn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't set up that way. It was set up
Speaker 4: for them to be a rap group. So when Craig
Speaker 4: Common heard grind on Me, he was like, well, who
Speaker 4: did this? Who did this record or whatever? And so
Speaker 4: they was like, man, Big D, he produced that or whatever.
Speaker 4: So man Craig was like, what I want to that's
Speaker 4: what I want to meet. I want to meet Big D.
Speaker 4: So they flew me to New York and me Craig.
Speaker 4: Jim sat down and Craig was like, listen, man, this
Speaker 4: is their sound right here, grinding me. I need y'all to.
Speaker 4: He was talking to me and Jim to create this
Speaker 4: for their project. And that's what we did. Reduction Team.
Speaker 4: No wow, we're not even a product. Craig put me
Speaker 4: and Jim together.
Speaker 1: That's great. He put us together.
Speaker 4: Science science, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I respect him
Speaker 4: for it too much. Like he had that vision, he
Speaker 4: was able to see it and put it together. And
Speaker 4: and then he sent He said, I'm gonna send a writer.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna introduce y'all to this writer whatever. So
Speaker 4: he sent Static Major and me, Jim and Static did
Speaker 4: pretty ricky album in thirty days.
Speaker 1: Thirty days.
Speaker 4: We did the whole album, just back to back to back,
Speaker 4: that whole Blue Star album, Ground on Me Your Body,
Speaker 4: all of that, we did all that, and we just
Speaker 4: we just.
Speaker 3: DIDI Classics, BRO Classics.
Speaker 4: And the and the sauce was. I would always come
Speaker 4: up with the melodies and everything. Jim was the he
Speaker 4: he had the the the the beat, he had the
Speaker 4: eight o eight sound, so he had that bottom and
Speaker 4: I would come up with the melodies. So I was like,
Speaker 4: I had melodies for days because I just I had
Speaker 4: all this music in my head and I always wanted
Speaker 4: to bring it out some kind of way anyway. So
Speaker 4: I would just come up with the melodies and whatever
Speaker 4: and just how we created the songs.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's funny when he say Jim Johnson, because it was
Speaker 3: like I would hear the name Jim Johnson and I'd
Speaker 3: be like like this, like, whoever this is Jim Johnson is?
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew Big D. I seen Big Day.
Speaker 3: I was like, but I don't know who Jim Johnson
Speaker 3: is it, But Jim Johnson probably you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Jim Johnson probably from them trenches, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He wanted niggas like man, Jim John's like, hey man,
Speaker 3: you you yeah yeah. But when I say he had it,
Speaker 3: oh man, y'all two together.
Speaker 4: He was like the king of the as down here. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what his thing was, the ato as. And here
Speaker 4: Miami that's that Miami bass he had had. And that's
Speaker 4: how we put our thing together.
Speaker 3: So tell me this, you guys. Now, you guys, I
Speaker 3: mean major success now, y'all, y'all on them charts now,
Speaker 3: so there's something different. I mean, well, let me go
Speaker 3: back to trick Daddy was, Yeah, that's what's the next
Speaker 3: move after that?
Speaker 1: And do you get your own studio after that?
Speaker 3: And then Ja Jay's famous question is now that the
Speaker 3: checks are rolling in, but before he.
Speaker 1: Even gets to that, what he hits you'all for? What
Speaker 1: hits you all for?
Speaker 3: On?
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 4: You know you're gonna be surprised, right, So everybody kept saying,
Speaker 4: we was not gonna get this Samper clip, right, we
Speaker 4: was not gonna get this Samper clip.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 4: Ozzie Osbourne son h is a trick Daddy fan. Go figure,
Speaker 4: why not Burn's son is a trick Daddy fan. When
Speaker 4: it got when they heard the record or whatever, Yo,
Speaker 4: this was when I tell you this, when it came back.
Speaker 4: Thus that man only took fifty percent.
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, fifty.
Speaker 2: Yeah because them samples give me ninety Yeah, I did
Speaker 2: you a favorite, give me.
Speaker 3: Give men need a you know, a little bag on
Speaker 3: the side of did like.
Speaker 4: This, no problem, no stress, no none of that man
Speaker 4: only because he ain't I didn't know who, but but
Speaker 4: it saw them was like, oh, like you got to
Speaker 4: clear this dad, And and that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Trick was on fire. Wow, Trick love of kids?
Speaker 1: Do you think do you get a nice bag for
Speaker 1: producing that? A good advance?
Speaker 4: It was, you know, it was you know after that,
Speaker 4: we met Big John. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's one of the Big Bus just saw you ago.
Speaker 1: We talked about you show. You've changed so many lives.
Speaker 4: Man, Yo, Big John is the godfather your Big John. Listen, nobody,
Speaker 4: nobody got an eye for talent.
Speaker 1: Like Big John.
Speaker 4: Big John is that dude man like like Big John
Speaker 4: taught me so much coming out coming from the bottom
Speaker 4: here in Miami. We don't know nothing about this, this
Speaker 4: music world, this music ship. We we just we're down
Speaker 4: here getting it. Big John was the one that really
Speaker 4: taught me a lot and how to maneuver. And because
Speaker 4: when when I first thought I was young and real
Speaker 4: strong minded and just I was real militant, Like I
Speaker 4: just felt like everybody was against me. Everybody that ain't
Speaker 4: me was against me. So I'm coming in with that
Speaker 4: mentality coming out of Miami whatever, so I'm not really
Speaker 4: knowing how to Big John was the one that kind
Speaker 4: of taught me how yeah you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and tone my thing down and not be so what
Speaker 4: they I guess they's say intimidating or whatever, because you people,
Speaker 4: you can roll people the wrong way in this game.
Speaker 3: But you come up around that too though, So you
Speaker 3: you got to have a certain you when you're dealing
Speaker 3: with it. You know, what's what's the boys you was
Speaker 3: dealing with the young show.
Speaker 1: You gotta have.
Speaker 4: All I know is like like the street. All I
Speaker 4: know is so so this music, this music game was different,
Speaker 4: you know. I mean even though I love music and
Speaker 4: I just know I can do it, but the game.
Speaker 1: Of business side, business.
Speaker 4: Side of it was a whole the world, a whole
Speaker 4: other world.
Speaker 1: And people don't understand that.
Speaker 2: They think that you can, that you can apply some
Speaker 2: of the same tactics and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll get you ab out of this ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's not about all you know, don't be so real,
Speaker 2: don't be that. But it's just like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: understand that this is a business. You have to move
Speaker 2: in the business a different way than how you would
Speaker 2: move in the street.
Speaker 1: They're gonna move you out of.
Speaker 2: This thing, you know what I'm saying, Like it's just
Speaker 2: it's just not designed that way.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm glad you. I'm glad you said
Speaker 1: that because.
Speaker 2: A lot of the younger creatives that are coming up
Speaker 2: and almost man, you keep doing all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that door is gonna be closed. It's going to
Speaker 1: be closed a lot of doors.
Speaker 4: I just felt like that that that because I'm young
Speaker 4: and and me coming out of minament, I missed a
Speaker 4: lot of opportunities that I felt like that that was,
Speaker 4: you know, always say what God has a miss for me,
Speaker 4: But there's still some things like the opportunity I feel
Speaker 4: like I missed because of my lack of knowledge and
Speaker 4: lack of not knowing how.
Speaker 1: To move in the game. I used to get.
Speaker 4: I used to get an that tone people you say, well,
Speaker 4: you know, they're gonna take a percentage of your public
Speaker 4: take what you heard, take right, nobody taking a motherfucker
Speaker 4: thing over here. I'm like on that, you know, and
Speaker 4: I'm so I'm like, no, no, that's not how we
Speaker 4: do it. So I'm not I'm growing. I'm not knowing you.
Speaker 4: This is the way you do it. You got the
Speaker 4: you got this, you know, you know. It wasn't time
Speaker 4: I grew and grew into this thing or that di
Speaker 4: I learned. Okay, so you know, like I like I
Speaker 4: tell a lot of the young cast, like you said,
Speaker 4: that's coming up, Yo, you have to move a certain way.
Speaker 4: This music game is a fraternity if if if anybody
Speaker 4: could do it, everybody will be doing it right, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it's like it's a little
Speaker 4: fraternity man. So it's like the way you're moving this
Speaker 4: game is how successful you can be.
Speaker 1: That's how I was looking.
Speaker 3: Shout out again the Big John. He's been again into
Speaker 3: my publishing career. Wow ninety eight.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah see, but my I think I think my
Speaker 4: publishing thing was before. Yeah, yeah, he was there. Big
Speaker 4: John was there me day one. Wow, he was there
Speaker 4: for me that he gave me and Jim my first
Speaker 4: publishing deal.
Speaker 1: Real, that's amazing. And we went on to become.
Speaker 4: Two thousand, two thousand and six, we got being Mine
Speaker 4: right yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Not a year, yeah, a year, crag a year. But
Speaker 3: that's that's after. Yeah, that's that's that's after. The Jamie
Speaker 3: Fox thought to go back to figure out what he
Speaker 3: brought to though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what what when you get your first legit
Speaker 2: not brown paper, when you first get to you know,
Speaker 2: the wire or that check what's the first thing you got.
Speaker 1: To celebrate yourself. I bought a Bentley. Yeah should Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think everybody bought a billing when they got their first.
Speaker 1: My business manager talked me out of it.
Speaker 4: I wish I asked somebody to like, that's what thing.
Speaker 4: That's one thing I didn't have. I didn't have nobody
Speaker 4: really teach me how to do the business thing I
Speaker 4: just got bought.
Speaker 1: I was just went crazy. Listen, you had to see you.
Speaker 5: You get the cool?
Speaker 3: Did you get that? You got that big boy? I
Speaker 3: got the big boy. Yeah, I got the big before.
Speaker 1: That's what That's what you have to have. I wanted
Speaker 1: that cool. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeahestatic had a couple of them. Yeahestatic was moving around.
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, that's what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I had. I bought Rams and.
Speaker 3: Quite body Biley the already had like I had the
Speaker 3: Lexus g S.
Speaker 1: But it's still a nice car. I bought. I put
Speaker 1: rims on the conversations a little bit.
Speaker 5: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Check was a little bigger than mine. Deal what I
Speaker 1: could you was stunned.
Speaker 4: It was mentally crazy for me. H. I'dne been all
Speaker 4: over the world travel. I've never been no place like Miami.
Speaker 4: Nowhere like Miami, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like miamis to keep me a float. Yeah,
Speaker 1: messing with Smitty Green Eyes.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, float yeah, come on, come on to me.
Speaker 1: Need you. I bring you down next week. That's real.
Speaker 1: That's let me tell you. That's that's my dog. Where
Speaker 1: that's Minty dog?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 1: Trust me? What's he? What's he? Green?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: It's all I got you next week? You can come
Speaker 1: down here next week. That's Smitty playing everybody's business? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Is it a good time to get to Jamie Fox? Unpredictable?
Speaker 3: Is it a good time to get to that girl?
Speaker 3: Get comfortable about to do some things you've never done before?
Speaker 3: Come on, Harold Lily Baby, not the usual big date tonight,
Speaker 3: we getting unpredictable job.
Speaker 1: I told this, I told Harold Lily this.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if you saw the episode, but
Speaker 3: I got to tell you this because since you're part
Speaker 3: of that record.
Speaker 1: Y'all saved my life. Hmm. Wow.
Speaker 3: When I was down here helping him finish that album,
Speaker 3: I had nothing. He was literally going into his safe
Speaker 3: at the hotel and just giving me handfuls of money
Speaker 3: so I could just make it through the week.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I had nothing.
Speaker 4: That's crazy because I would saying this. I remember you
Speaker 4: in the studio. I was sitting with Brionn said, man,
Speaker 4: that Nigga's bad.
Speaker 3: I'm just there trying to be of service because nothing bro.
Speaker 3: And when that album came out, because of that, that
Speaker 3: number one single and the seven hundred thousand records the
Speaker 3: first week, first week, Hey hey them people call me
Speaker 3: first week, Hey man, he.
Speaker 1: Remember your number? You back?
Speaker 3: What can we give you a Lamborghini? You could give
Speaker 3: me a Lamborghini? They say no, no, but what about
Speaker 3: the money. You will fear it out. I need a
Speaker 3: Lamborghini and.
Speaker 1: I wanted in yellow, and I wanted in yellow.
Speaker 3: How you staying that yeller? Because they have to see me. Wow,
Speaker 3: they have to see that I'm back. Y'all saved my life.
Speaker 4: You know man, listen, man, that was nothing, but God,
Speaker 4: let me tell you, like, first of all, that sample,
Speaker 4: my mama used to play that all the time.
Speaker 1: A wild child, what she is? Sweet as well? Let
Speaker 1: it ray fall down?
Speaker 4: Uh, it's the sample sweetend to flower growing around. So
Speaker 4: I used to hear that in my head all the time.
Speaker 4: I said, damn, man, that shits so hard and we
Speaker 4: and it started with I took that part out of
Speaker 4: the sample, and that's how we created a song just
Speaker 4: from that bom bob.
Speaker 1: And we created it. We created a record from that.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 4: I called Brion. I wasn't even thinking about Jamie Fox.
Speaker 4: I just called Brion because I used to let Bren
Speaker 4: here all my beats. I said, Brian, Man, we just
Speaker 4: did a we just did a dope beat.
Speaker 1: Man. You gotta hear this.
Speaker 4: I ain't thinking and I ain't thinking Jamie Fox, and
Speaker 4: I just I'm like, I'm every beat I do, I'm
Speaker 4: thinking the rap artist.
Speaker 1: You know what. I'm got that ear? Yeah, got that
Speaker 1: ear yeah.
Speaker 4: So we meet up down here on South to be somewhere.
Speaker 4: Sitting in the car, I played the record, I played
Speaker 4: the beat. Brion just went at it. Oh, I hear
Speaker 4: this for Jamie and he said, I'm gonna get this
Speaker 4: nigga Harold Lily to write it.
Speaker 1: I ain't know who was. I say, don't worry about that,
Speaker 1: you just stick to the music. I got this.
Speaker 4: That's like, man, I'm gonna get hair Leal to write
Speaker 4: it and Jamie gonna sing it.
Speaker 1: Yo, it's out of here.
Speaker 4: I said, all right, in that order, in that order
Speaker 4: he's He's like, man, it's out of here.
Speaker 1: I ain't man, I don't know nothing.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, man, let's do it, and the rest
Speaker 4: is what it is, man, Jamie. Jamie went on that
Speaker 4: that wrong with that Ray Charles thing timing was when
Speaker 4: I tell you, I ain't never seen a setup like that, Like,
Speaker 4: I ain't never had a setup like that pertaining any
Speaker 4: record that.
Speaker 1: I was a part of. A rollout, they call it rollout.
Speaker 1: I have never seen a rollout like that. An oscar
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, it doesn't stopping that train. It doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: It don't happen. I was like this, Oh Jesus, Jesus,
Speaker 3: my god. In this band, you had like lies.
Speaker 1: In an arena. Yeah, that record is out of the
Speaker 1: kicks in man. No, that was.
Speaker 4: I played every instrument on that record, the baseline, all that.
Speaker 1: Cutes, Champagne, if you get some food up, pull it up.
Speaker 1: Played every instrument on that record. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I played most of the instruments on on all the records. Yeah, Guitar, bass, drums, keyboard,
Speaker 4: training with the Kelly Rolling song Here we Go, I
Speaker 4: played the p on I played the keyboards on here
Speaker 4: we go, Real.
Speaker 1: Church Boy, Real church Boy.
Speaker 4: Actually that song was for sim D's Tender Love. So
Speaker 4: my brother, he was a keyboard player, so I always
Speaker 4: wanted to learn how to play that song on the key.
Speaker 4: So my brother taught me how to play that that
Speaker 4: particular record on key on the keyboards. So I always
Speaker 4: knew how to play. So when when we did a beat,
Speaker 4: I was playing in the studio one day, just playing
Speaker 4: with it. So Jim said, man, let's do the beat
Speaker 4: to that, and that was the train at Kelly Rolling.
Speaker 4: Here we go record. Wow, we didn't even sample. We
Speaker 4: just played everything from that. We didn't sample for some ds.
Speaker 4: Every every song, I mean, every part of that record
Speaker 4: was straight instrumental, straight I played.
Speaker 2: So now you're now you got these massive records and
Speaker 2: everybody's calling.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Then jay Z calls, Oh, let me tell you
Speaker 4: how this man, This this story is crazy, right, This,
Speaker 4: this story is crazy because this is how my career
Speaker 4: has gone. My career is going, not not so much
Speaker 4: through relationships in the industry, but just God just making
Speaker 4: things happen for me. You know, lo Wayne, When when
Speaker 4: me and Jim, Jim went started doing his thing, I
Speaker 4: started doing my thing. Was so Lo Wayne was the
Speaker 4: person that he was the only person really of his
Speaker 4: status that restopped me and say, D Man, I need you,
Speaker 4: I need you to send me some beasts like damn man,
Speaker 4: so Lo Wayne. So so I would just send low
Speaker 4: Wayne be and send Lowayne beast and then he would
Speaker 4: he would be working at the Hit at the Hit factory,
Speaker 4: so I would go there and take him a beat
Speaker 4: CD or whatever. So he'll be in a booth and
Speaker 4: he'll stop his session as soon as I walk in.
Speaker 4: He'll stop his session and tele engine that you'll put
Speaker 4: big D beats on whenever he's doing. Like I mean,
Speaker 4: this is this is why I love little Wayne to
Speaker 4: this day. Like this man like he just I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't know. He just took an he took an
Speaker 4: interest to me to like, man, I got you D
Speaker 4: So he was just going through me. So Wayne would
Speaker 4: just get on my beast like he'll just he'll just
Speaker 4: me and Wayne got we finally got a double album
Speaker 4: right now, I got my catalog. I got records that
Speaker 4: Lawayne cut that's not even out. So this particular beat
Speaker 4: was the Hello Brooklyn. I did this beat with fabulous
Speaker 4: in mind. Hello Brooklyn. How you doing. I was thinking
Speaker 4: the fabulous. I want to get this beat the fabulous.
Speaker 4: And that's another thing like when you're producing Miami, especially
Speaker 4: y'all your producers, not just in Miami. But it's our
Speaker 4: problem be how do we get the music to the artist,
Speaker 4: And so all we have is a dream. When we're
Speaker 4: doing a beat, we're saying, damn, I hit is for fabulous.
Speaker 4: I ain't never I don't know nobody who know fabulous.
Speaker 4: I ain't never been to New York. I don't know nothing.
Speaker 4: I never been to Brooklyn. I just love to beat.
Speaker 4: I just stopped messing with the beat in this Hello Brooklyn,
Speaker 4: so Lowayne got on it, and lo Wayne just he
Speaker 4: was just rapping to it, Hello Brooklyn, and and and
Speaker 4: and and and it became one of the songs in
Speaker 4: his catalog. So I ain't never thinking nothing of it.
Speaker 4: I just know low Wayne cut a lot of my beats,
Speaker 4: a lot of I don't know if it's ever gonna
Speaker 4: come out or whatever. Man, I got a call one
Speaker 4: day from Big John John and some kind of way
Speaker 4: jay Z heard Hello Brooklyn when he was with Wayne
Speaker 4: one day in the studio and Wayne playing it for
Speaker 4: him whatever, and some kind of way.
Speaker 1: Jay Z say I need.
Speaker 4: That, and Wayne gave it to him. He gave he
Speaker 4: gave it to him for the It was this movie
Speaker 4: that the Gainster movie, American Gangster, American Gangster. Yeah, jay
Speaker 4: Z was doing the American Gangsters and he wanted it
Speaker 4: for that movie. Man, I never met jay Z none
Speaker 4: of that to this day. Oh I met him after,
Speaker 4: but before the ND I didn't. I didn't meet him
Speaker 4: or anything. It's just I just got a call from
Speaker 4: John said, jay Z want the record.
Speaker 1: He wanted that beat, he wanted.
Speaker 4: It and and Wayne, and this happened to be the
Speaker 4: first record that Wayne and jay Z ever did together.
Speaker 4: This was the first one they ever did together. Hello Brooklyn.
Speaker 4: And that's how that's how it happened for me.
Speaker 1: Just the Lord, just just god man.
Speaker 3: But also the goodness of like you know again, speak
Speaker 3: of that relationship you Wayne and Wayne and.
Speaker 1: Been like oh yeah, for my for my guy.
Speaker 3: Because you know how people can be when they got
Speaker 3: records and and they got they don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't even have to play it.
Speaker 4: That's why I love way to people asking, man, who's
Speaker 4: one of your faans, I say, Wayne my favorite to
Speaker 4: this day because because he believed in me. That that
Speaker 4: was a low part. I think that that. I think
Speaker 4: then this when my brother passed and I think that
Speaker 4: it was in ninety six, So around that time I
Speaker 4: lost my brother, I didn't want to do music no more.
Speaker 4: I was really going through it. It was a low
Speaker 4: time for me. So like Wayne was just one of
Speaker 4: the people that that that I just there was just
Speaker 4: death for me, like him, not just Wayne, but cash Money, Family.
Speaker 1: Baby, Slim.
Speaker 4: They really did when they moved to Miami, they they
Speaker 4: really looked out for Big D. They looked out for
Speaker 4: Big D, so they do. They knew my background, they
Speaker 4: knew my story, they knew about my brother and everything.
Speaker 4: So they just really reached out to me and really
Speaker 4: looked out for me. So I never got nothing bad
Speaker 4: to say about the boys.
Speaker 3: Never man out the cash Money Yeah yeah, yeah, Baby
Speaker 3: is one of those guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, definitely Man Baby and Slim Man, Slim and
Speaker 4: Slim the one like like he he don't say much,
Speaker 4: but that's that boy, the one.
Speaker 1: We talked about.
Speaker 3: We talked about that that guy don't say a whole
Speaker 3: lot people, but I promise you.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you Slim that that's the one, right there, yeah, man, So.
Speaker 2: Then you end up we fast forward, yeah, and then
Speaker 2: you end up pretty much your your songs are the
Speaker 2: songs that broke the City Girls.
Speaker 1: Wow hmm, come on.
Speaker 2: I mean, like I had never heard about the City
Speaker 2: Girls too. Some girl was talking about I Take Your
Speaker 2: Man and what a bad yet yeah man, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh ship big produced yeahs.
Speaker 3: Like different type of yeah yeah, different type of longevity,
Speaker 3: different types of transformations in terms of production and musical style,
Speaker 3: Like that's not that's not normal.
Speaker 2: And that's your roots, that's the Miami sound.
Speaker 4: City Girls. Like when I saw those girls, nobody might.
Speaker 1: Be believed in them.
Speaker 4: Nobody it might be believing nobody other than me and
Speaker 4: Ball Greasy.
Speaker 1: Ball Greasy and Miron was.
Speaker 4: The one that turned me onto and and they opened
Speaker 4: up for Ball Greasy at the Showing Temple. They sent
Speaker 4: me a video of it, and all I thought about
Speaker 4: was Traina and Jackie O. You know, those are Miami
Speaker 4: female legends. And at this time, no, there was no
Speaker 4: girl groups in the game, and they especially wasn't talking
Speaker 4: about the stuff that the City Girls was on, like
Speaker 4: like like the girls was in the game. They was
Speaker 4: real nice with it, but they weren't known that. They
Speaker 4: weren't known that. So when I got in the studio
Speaker 4: with them, man, I and you know, they taught me.
Speaker 1: The city girls taught me how to work with the
Speaker 1: new generation.
Speaker 4: They taught me how to work with them because I
Speaker 4: was such, you know, coming from the school of producing
Speaker 4: and and how your hands on and you pretty much
Speaker 4: want the record done like this.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying, like everything has to
Speaker 4: be you know, auto tune tightness all that. Dumb girls
Speaker 4: taught me how the new school wanted. They not structured
Speaker 4: like that. Just let it be, man, listen, just sit
Speaker 4: back and let them go in the booth and do
Speaker 4: what they do. Well, what the timing is not fun?
Speaker 4: They don't they don't move their vocals.
Speaker 3: They don't want it on beat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did. That's how they want it like. And
Speaker 1: that was that was new for me.
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, that's that's off like nah nah d
Speaker 4: that's how we want it.
Speaker 1: We want it like that. Okay, all right, y'all want
Speaker 1: it like that.
Speaker 4: And they taught me really how and and we just
Speaker 4: went in there. So I take your man came from idea.
Speaker 4: I have said, man, why don't y'all y'all don't even
Speaker 4: thinking about Salt and Pepper.
Speaker 1: They didn't even know who saltn Pepper was.
Speaker 4: They didn't know the group Salt and Pepper. Some id
Speaker 4: just said, you know what, man, I'm ana flip that
Speaker 4: Salt and Pepper and put these Miami girls on some
Speaker 4: New York ship and still give them that low end
Speaker 4: of eight o eight and they talking they ship over
Speaker 4: this And that's how it came about. And I'm working
Speaker 4: with I'm working on their solo project.
Speaker 1: Now, how was there?
Speaker 2: How was the streets when city girls hit out here
Speaker 2: and you hear.
Speaker 1: It like you just see.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you in the studio with them, like
Speaker 2: you said, it's a new thing, But what was the
Speaker 2: vibe when they when they really start taking off in Miami.
Speaker 4: That's when you saw females taking over.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: That's what that's that's that's when it started. You could
Speaker 4: see that the females coming. Guys, the men rappers, y'all
Speaker 4: going to take a back seat for a minute because
Speaker 4: they're on some new ship.
Speaker 2: Everything you hearing down college across the bridge, every ass
Speaker 2: a city girls, all city girls.
Speaker 1: Because now everybody wants to be a city girl. Everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, everybody listen, even even the C suite women,
Speaker 2: the women that out here CEOs quietly, they somewhere listening
Speaker 2: to city girls, city girls about acting up.
Speaker 1: We didn't take your Yeah, I see it.
Speaker 4: So it's like I'm sitting back looking at it and
Speaker 4: sitting in the clubs just looking at Hi'm like, damn,
Speaker 4: it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, your career has been amazing, bro, Yeah, what you've
Speaker 2: done in this game. You can't just put your hand
Speaker 2: on it either and say, oh, he does that, because
Speaker 2: there's so many different type of records that you've done.
Speaker 2: I mean, you've even done a record for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on talking about it.
Speaker 2: Come on with this pimpo Yeah yeah, you know with
Speaker 2: me and Snoop Dogg, you know Static Magic, they put
Speaker 2: me out to Miami man, and you know got in
Speaker 2: with with with Jim Johnson, dre Yes.
Speaker 1: Man, it was I had a time. I had a time, man,
Speaker 1: I had a time out here. We spent a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of money on that budget. Though we spent You
Speaker 1: had it, you had.
Speaker 4: You record, you sid.
Speaker 2: Larry like you gotta you gotta get in, you gotta
Speaker 2: get in with Jim Johnson and Big T. Come on, man,
Speaker 2: I said, listen, I love what they've done. Put me
Speaker 2: in with them for the show.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: We had a great time, man, And I always appreciated
Speaker 2: that moment.
Speaker 1: Man, y'all was always super cool.
Speaker 2: Definitely, and you know, we got a chance to really
Speaker 2: connect and then me being able to see you know,
Speaker 2: because I didn't, I didn't fully understand what you were
Speaker 2: involved in, just from the from the musician side and
Speaker 2: being able to appreciate that. Like Tank was saying earlier, Man,
Speaker 2: like you you're the original R and B Live of Miami.
Speaker 2: It's a real thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yah.
Speaker 4: I do it every Wednesday night still to this day.
Speaker 4: Every Wednesday night, I got a show. It's called Session
Speaker 4: Okay with My Lives. My Own Lives band and the
Speaker 4: performance artists has just come through and telling people where
Speaker 4: Studio one e three, Miami, wednesdaynight. Matter of fact, tonight
Speaker 4: we in that tonight dope I got a lot of
Speaker 4: the spot is called it's because the spot is called studio.
Speaker 4: It's owned by Floor Rider Flo Floor Riding Freezy Spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a dope spot. Man.
Speaker 4: So Wednesday night we do nothing but R and B music,
Speaker 4: DJ Nasty We do r B list if y'all ain dow, y'all.
Speaker 1: Gotta come through. When do you start? What time you start?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, what what what you to?
Speaker 1: Whatever? You'll just come by, you know. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Listen, I got Listen, I got the coldest
Speaker 1: music with that young girl saying I'm out here in Miami.
Speaker 4: Listen, I got the dopest musicians. Like maybe we did
Speaker 4: a wedding. Many Yeah, me and Tank we did a wedding.
Speaker 4: Listen this wedd It was incredible. The Tank was on
Speaker 4: the stage with us on with the band man when
Speaker 4: I tell you, something happened and just made us made
Speaker 4: up a song. Something happened with the with the usher
Speaker 4: one of the other or no, somebody was somebody was park.
Speaker 1: Wrong telling about the car. Take the whole song. He
Speaker 1: did a whole song by this person that was parking.
Speaker 1: He was, Yo, this that's crazy. Sound like him.
Speaker 3: Because I didn't know what was going I walked in.
Speaker 3: I walked in and I'm like, yeah, just make sure
Speaker 3: you got to keep board from me. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I do my thing. I don't know
Speaker 3: what you know with what the musicality gonna be? Like
Speaker 3: I walked in and it's him. I was like, ah,
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm singing the whole night.
Speaker 1: Let's go, Let's go. And then he had some singers
Speaker 1: with him that was off the chain, kill what he
Speaker 1: was always wanted to do, like what so on? When
Speaker 1: we came up, man, we did the whole show. Bro.
Speaker 1: I saw him, I said, let's cook, let's cook.
Speaker 4: Yeah man, you know yo yo that that ship was incredible,
Speaker 4: So like, no, we do that. That's my thing, man,
Speaker 4: doing a lot of music. But no, here's the funny part.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm looking around, I'm like, why does
Speaker 3: this look like a music video?
Speaker 1: And it was like Big D loves to have smoke.
Speaker 7: When Big D he's sitting right there and it's just
Speaker 7: smoke all around me, the smoking somebody's wedding.
Speaker 1: I said, where's the smoke coming from? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: Big D loves to have smoke when he's so what
Speaker 1: is he just like to appear like? What is I
Speaker 1: just like the the aura? Yeah? Yeah, yes man, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: I just feel like you you appreciate the music better
Speaker 4: when when they're smoke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean It's just something about
Speaker 1: the atmosphere of it. Yeah. I was trying to Bro.
Speaker 3: We're at a wedding, somebody's wedding, man, and there's smoke.
Speaker 1: I'm like niggas going to the buffet. Bro, you got
Speaker 1: somebody asked me to come perform that. You gotta have
Speaker 1: a smoke machine.
Speaker 3: You have to Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta a rider, yes,
Speaker 3: he said, I said, I said, but is.
Speaker 1: This smoke on fire? Man? I looked over in the
Speaker 1: smoke like Rick James, James bitch the bag guitarp. Now
Speaker 1: he is in the smoke. Yeah, I gotta have my smoke. Man.
Speaker 3: This is a music video right now. This is setting
Speaker 3: setting the tone in the atmosphere.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: Bro, get no argument out of me. So listen, here's
Speaker 3: here's my here's my thing. Pull up my little keyboard. Here,
Speaker 3: here's my thing. Brother. You know, Jay just spoke about,
Speaker 3: you know, having a record with you, you know, come get
Speaker 3: to this pimping. You know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 3: feel like I feel like half of the Army Money
Speaker 3: podcast has a record with you and the other half doesn't.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna just, you know, just throw this out there.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, there needs to be some balance.
Speaker 3: You know, we level you know, level this thing out
Speaker 3: that even if it's if it's a J and Tank record,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, it's gotta be you know,
Speaker 3: we gotta close this gap.
Speaker 4: Brother, Yes, and listen, consider that done.
Speaker 1: Get into pig D's LAMB can't recorded just in case.
Speaker 6: Yeah, big Da, You've been all over the world and
Speaker 6: now you for some of the biggest artists in the world.
Speaker 1: My brother. You you make music and you create an
Speaker 1: atmosphere that's so smoky. But now if people want to know, yes,
Speaker 1: yes you're.
Speaker 8: MH top five, your top five, Top five, your top
Speaker 8: five rping.
Speaker 1: R and B song show.
Speaker 9: We got a new He's Dollar show Wednesday night school.
Speaker 9: We're going to know your top five. When he asks, right, smoke, you're.
Speaker 4: Tip four.
Speaker 5: H thank, I would agree, top big deal, your top five.
Speaker 4: R and B singer. Alright, listen, come go to go
Speaker 4: to the text. My top five is surely season. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Donny has the way I see where you see what
Speaker 4: he's Yeah, you kind of see where he's going with this.
Speaker 4: You're not you know, I'm a Stevie Won the type
Speaker 4: of guy I just love Stevie, I love Marvin Wynings.
Speaker 1: What what you mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: For me, like most of my top singer gospel scene
Speaker 4: should because you know what I'm saying, and and and
Speaker 4: and who else singing one more? You got one more?
Speaker 4: One more more, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go jazz
Speaker 4: Main Jazell. I'm gonna go jazz Man.
Speaker 1: Just for me, just for that. Just you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. She's a killer.
Speaker 4: And I didn't know I had to do top five
Speaker 4: RB singers, so I'm just really off the dome.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4: Like that, I wouldn't that I wouldn't mind saying. When
Speaker 4: I think about singers, I think about who I wouldn't
Speaker 4: mind listening to you thank you want them to.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind just listening to for two three.
Speaker 4: Hours at a concert sing Yes, some singers like I
Speaker 4: can hear a couple of songs of this.
Speaker 3: So when I think about Jay that south lest top
Speaker 3: five R and B songs, Okay, I will close down.
Speaker 4: I got the Yeah, I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 4: Purple Ring, Yeah, Purple Ring. I want to be close. Switch.
Speaker 1: You know I love Switch. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Anything about fire and desire. Yes, Ricke, Rick.
Speaker 1: Shangee Marie the most underrated singer of all times. All
Speaker 1: you think Rick is underrated.
Speaker 2: More underrated than James Brown because James Brown underrated to people,
Speaker 2: don't bring in James Brown's but I mean, here's the.
Speaker 3: Thing though, James Brown has a title in front of
Speaker 3: his name, the Godfather, right, so they're there in itself
Speaker 3: is flowers out of this world, right, There is no
Speaker 3: title in front of Rick.
Speaker 1: James's name is James.
Speaker 4: I can remember, I can remember exactly where I was
Speaker 4: was singing boys the Man into the role, Yeah, Chicago.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you leave me now you take away. The
Speaker 1: biggest part of me I was school. I was on
Speaker 1: a school bus. Man, I was on school. That's my
Speaker 1: top five song.
Speaker 3: Me.
Speaker 1: He shout out to the bus driver for playing playing
Speaker 1: right for the kids. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Going to
Speaker 1: middle school. He's playing that. He's playing on the on
Speaker 1: the bus, like what you kids want to hear.
Speaker 3: It's crazy because it's like those songs, those tunes right there,
Speaker 3: like they they do something to you as a kid
Speaker 3: that you don't know. You don't know what's going to realize,
Speaker 3: what is what's in you. Let's get to let's get
Speaker 3: to your vultron brother. We're gonna build your super R
Speaker 3: and B artists. Because we build your super R and
Speaker 3: B artists. We want to know who you're going to
Speaker 3: get the vocal from, Who you're gonna get the performance
Speaker 3: style from, who you're gonna get the styling from, who
Speaker 3: you're gonna get the passion of the artists from, and
Speaker 3: who's going to produce for this artist. Who you're gonna
Speaker 3: beat the vocal from. For your vultrans out there. That's
Speaker 3: how you're gonna do. That's how you're acting, right whatever. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: play with it. Soul stirring vocal, soul stirring performance style.
Speaker 3: You know, performance You can't gotta go m J got
Speaker 3: Donnie on the vocal, m J on the feet, got
Speaker 3: it all right, They can't play with j Man styling
Speaker 3: Stalind for me for me is Jodasy.
Speaker 1: For all of us. Styland for me is Jodas. Go
Speaker 1: back to the episode we had k c on here
Speaker 1: we dressed up as Jodas. Yeah, we had.
Speaker 4: I didn't even see that. We thought we was members.
Speaker 4: I see wow, wow. I didn't play with it right
Speaker 4: like when they came.
Speaker 3: When they came with that style, I couldn't afford the leather,
Speaker 3: but I definitely wore all black.
Speaker 1: You can't now. I can now find me some leather
Speaker 1: overalls when you get a second.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 4: They changed everything, changed everything that people don't know that
Speaker 4: like like the boys yo to see, they changed.
Speaker 1: They changed a lot, changed meat, the passion.
Speaker 4: Of the artists, the passion. I haven't been around no
Speaker 4: one in his music game with the passion like Shirley Season,
Speaker 4: not with the passion that lady listen. I used to think.
Speaker 4: I used to think Shirley was on drugs. I used
Speaker 4: to think she was on coke. I used to be
Speaker 4: in church, watch your perform and I used to tell
Speaker 4: I used to tell my brothers say, ain't no way
Speaker 4: that lady performing like they ain't on something.
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 4: Until I start working with her and being around her
Speaker 4: and I got to know her and her passion. It's
Speaker 4: so incredible, man, It's just what she was. That's just
Speaker 4: who she is, like like and and like. And I've
Speaker 4: been around a lot of people, man, like a lot
Speaker 4: of artists I've been around, and I ain't been around
Speaker 4: nobody as passionate as that lady man when it comes
Speaker 4: to the Lord and loving God and loving what she do,
Speaker 4: like her passion for what she does.
Speaker 1: Wow, I learned so much being around Shirley past the season. Wow.
Speaker 1: Who's producing for this artist? Terry Lewis. Yeah, I'm only
Speaker 1: a human, I'm young. Yeah, I'm just in the cut learning.
Speaker 3: You talk about a body of work top top to bottom.
Speaker 1: The sound Jam and Lewis, Man, Jam and Lewis.
Speaker 4: Of course he got something else here.
Speaker 2: Come on taking back to each other, tacond back to
Speaker 2: your he was on the road, you know what I
Speaker 2: mean in the church bus.
Speaker 1: Grass, I ain't saying no Nixon. I ain't saying no nigh.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no name.
Speaker 1: We please with what you did? Don't say sheep. I
Speaker 1: ain't saying no names.
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, yo, So it's that time. It's that times.
Speaker 2: We're at the segment segments. Card, I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1: Will you tell us a story? Me coming over here?
Speaker 4: This was the main thing I struggled with why I
Speaker 4: was coming over here, because the majority of my stories
Speaker 4: is crazy crazy. We definitely ain't saying o names. Okay, Well,
Speaker 4: let me introduce you first.
Speaker 1: Let me is this for you? You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because you know, we gotta make it. You know, we can't.
Speaker 1: We can't short you. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: got all right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So this is this is I ain't saying no names?
Speaker 2: Will you tell us a story? Funny and fucked up?
Speaker 2: Are funny and fucked up? In the Journey Times, Big
Speaker 2: d The only rule to the game. You can't say
Speaker 2: no names?
Speaker 1: Got you?
Speaker 4: The only rule to the game. I was scheduled to
Speaker 4: work with this artist, right, it's a major artist that
Speaker 4: they call me. Do you want you to get in
Speaker 4: with this artist? Okay, it's not the only thing. This
Speaker 4: artist she's she's a little crazy, like you know, she
Speaker 4: she she'de got into it with a few people, you know,
Speaker 4: stabbed some people and you know, put just crazy, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like, you know, if we ain't
Speaker 4: saying no name, but you know, but she dope though
Speaker 4: these so I know, like, you know, if you get
Speaker 4: in with her whatever. So I did my own research
Speaker 4: about her. It's like, man, stab this person, stab that person.
Speaker 1: You know, she kind of out.
Speaker 4: There, you know, all cool, all right? So the day
Speaker 4: of the session. I'm always being born and raised in Miami,
Speaker 4: you learn to carry a gun quick. Yeah, that's just nature,
Speaker 4: Like if you're living in this city. So I'm known,
Speaker 4: people tell you about. I'm a gun collector. I love
Speaker 4: collecting guns, going to the gun shows and everything. So
Speaker 4: I I say, you know, we're not gonna what I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do is this particular session, I'm gonna have my
Speaker 4: gun on the board the console, So understanding right out
Speaker 4: the gate, Right right out the gate, we're gonna have
Speaker 4: a We're gonna have an understanding soon as say walk in.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like, this is how I'm
Speaker 4: such and such. Yeah, I'm big d you know. Right
Speaker 4: out the gate, let's establish some things, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. We're here to do songs and and so
Speaker 4: when they saw the whatever, so like that's pretty much
Speaker 4: how relationship started. Like they were like, man, you're crazy,
Speaker 4: I can't believe you, you know, And we really became
Speaker 4: friends after.
Speaker 1: But that's how we met each other.
Speaker 4: That's how session started, and that's how we became friends
Speaker 4: from that right there.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 4: She understood that I will in the water play with
Speaker 4: and I understood who she was and now since we
Speaker 4: got past that, not let's write some ship and do
Speaker 4: some records.
Speaker 1: Records, music business. It's a music business. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: stab me.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: That's not happening. Listen. I can go wherever you want
Speaker 1: to go. But now what you want to do? You
Speaker 1: want to start here, you want and that's how you
Speaker 1: know what, And that's how O sessions started. And you know,
Speaker 1: we've been friends.
Speaker 4: Like we laugh about it, but I haven't seen it
Speaker 4: in a while, but whenever we do see each other,
Speaker 4: we always know that is great.
Speaker 1: And that's.
Speaker 4: And that was the only story. Like I got plenty stories,
Speaker 4: but that was the only one that I felt like
Speaker 4: it wasn't too crazy because my other stories is really
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 1: A great resolve too.
Speaker 3: You guys got some stuff done, your friends lessons of
Speaker 3: redemptive qualities in.
Speaker 1: This you can tell us the other stories, like.
Speaker 3: Ye brother, you I mean you you're a gym brother.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Y'all for having me.
Speaker 4: Man, I've never I've never did this, like a podcast
Speaker 4: thing like this, Like I've always been the person that
Speaker 4: I never did want to do interviews and talk like
Speaker 4: because I'm not it's man, for y'all to call me like,
Speaker 4: I really appreciate. I appreciate, appreciate that, man, because you
Speaker 4: don't know who people acknowledge your talent and work like that.
Speaker 4: And I appreciate y'all giving me my flowers like this, man,
Speaker 4: because this is an honor to me. Like I saw
Speaker 4: y'all lined up the people y'all interviewed, and I've always said, man,
Speaker 4: I shouldn't even be on that, man, But I just
Speaker 4: I like, man, I really appreciate what y'all doing, man,
Speaker 4: and and I'm honored to be here.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all for having me here. Man, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, I said, listen, man, we appreciate you.
Speaker 3: We got workship do but I promise you this, if
Speaker 3: we got an hour and some change, we're gonna pull
Speaker 3: up tonight and see see what you're doing.
Speaker 6: You know what.
Speaker 10: They got good food there too. They got good food there, yo, listen,
Speaker 10: they got the best food. It's like, hold on, y'all,
Speaker 10: y'all don't know about finger lickings. Of course, this is
Speaker 10: class class freezing.
Speaker 1: That's the class. That's his brother floor, right, they all
Speaker 1: it's all the family thing. The food is incredible. You
Speaker 1: just come out for like an hour. They got that
Speaker 1: real sweet drink that they have at the liquors. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: They call that the misty, the misty, what is it?
Speaker 1: What is it? Lobster bikes? They got it the liquors.
Speaker 1: You know you're right across the street. I know what's
Speaker 1: going on. Come on, come on. You know I've been
Speaker 1: moving around down here too big. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, you know I know the landlord, but I
Speaker 1: know the Landlord. But I got a unit in here.
Speaker 3: Man, I.
Speaker 1: Keep forgetting tasting me. Like listen, man, y'all gotta come
Speaker 1: pull up on me to done. I won't, I won't.
Speaker 1: I will trust me. I want to announce it. I
Speaker 1: want no good.
Speaker 4: Come fellowship with our brother, come fellowship.
Speaker 1: Let's stage. Listen. The band is incredible. Yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 4: And y'all gonna love the y'all gonna love the scenery.
Speaker 1: Man, it's nice, some nice scenery. What the Lord is doing.
Speaker 1: I know what he's doing. Yeah, I know what he's doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The Lord delivers this those feet ever so softmen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he provides because I know it's something in the water
Speaker 3: down here.
Speaker 1: You're gonna love the festival. Yeah, it is natural. Give
Speaker 1: it to him out the wound. Yes, yes, hey man,
Speaker 1: please come by.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be here for prayer. Also there if you
Speaker 3: need prayer tonight is a man, it will be a
Speaker 3: prayer line.
Speaker 1: Man. Listen.
Speaker 3: If if y'all need me to sit in a car
Speaker 3: or something, let me know. I said, we appreciate you, brother,
Speaker 3: we are we this is this is much needed. We
Speaker 3: you know, and I know you don't do this and
Speaker 3: so you pulling up. We appreciate you taking your time,
Speaker 3: but also we just want to let you know, brother,
Speaker 3: you deserve this.
Speaker 1: Thank you, man, You deserve this. People.
Speaker 3: People need to hear your conversation and understand who you are.
Speaker 3: Put a face to the hits into the moments, and
Speaker 3: understand when they see you. The respect is you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We finish work though, man, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: know we already. Yeah, yeah, I don't listen. I don't
Speaker 3: doubt you, brother, We're getting ready to work.
Speaker 1: I don't doubt you. Listen. I'm more excited about that
Speaker 1: than we never work.
Speaker 4: We never really and I want, like, I can't wait
Speaker 4: to get on the phone with Lamb and say, listen, man, listen,
Speaker 4: we Finn go in with Tank. We really we getting ready,
Speaker 4: were getting ready to create some magic.
Speaker 3: Make me change my flight man, make me stay extra
Speaker 3: time you call the way named Big D. I can't
Speaker 3: big with Big D say you gotta stay. He got
Speaker 3: a gun on the console like you gotta stay.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 3: Know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you brother. My name is and this is
Speaker 1: the R V Money podcast, the authority on all things
Speaker 1: R and B.
Speaker 3: This has been a brother much deserving of every flower,
Speaker 3: imaginable man, a good brother, awesome brother man, uh an
Speaker 3: amazing talent with a gift man, Big D.
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