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Speaker 1: is a singer, a songwriter, and actor. He's from Nolins, Nolins.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're right, New Orleans, um, and he

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Speaker 1: when you said your mother lost her records or she

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Speaker 1: thought about. You know, oh my god, it was like

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Speaker 1: everything it was you realize what really matters. During a

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Speaker 1: time like that. You think of things as simple possessions.

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Speaker 1: But when they tell stories, um, like you tell stories

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Speaker 1: with your music, you you appreciate it and you value it,

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Speaker 1: and you can see the artist in you. And as

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Speaker 1: you discuss it, what it what it meant, what it means. UM.

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Speaker 1: As an artist, you also you act I think that's

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Speaker 1: know why I believe that that probably isn't. But but

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Speaker 1: you do it so effortlessly. UM, you Grammy nominated. You

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Speaker 1: have all of these talents. Um. What what is the

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Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily even think there's an endgame? What

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Speaker 1: would be your next chapter or your next season? What

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Speaker 1: would you like for yourself in your in your career. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm on my way to Broadway, which

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Speaker 1: I'm petrified. I'm scared. Shit. Congratulations, thank you so much, UM.

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Speaker 1: But it is something I manifest I had manifested in

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Speaker 1: and it came UM, and I didn't I was in

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Speaker 1: and this is something really grand and awesome. I didn't

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Speaker 1: expect this to be my first thing, but I'm grateful

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Speaker 1: for it. And you know, I want to be I

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Speaker 1: guess from each project to the next, most people, I guess.

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Speaker 1: I want to challenge myself. I want to do things

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Speaker 1: that scare me that I truly don't think I'm prepared for, UM,

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Speaker 1: but I know I can do it. And because for me,

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Speaker 1: I have to run from that. I have to pursue.

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Speaker 1: I'll survive. But if I don't and I watch everyone

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Speaker 1: jump off the ledge and do that thing and do it, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just hate that. I just didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: I had one incident in my life as a child,

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Speaker 1: and I did that. I said no, and I let

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Speaker 1: and ever and still to this day it's at me.

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Speaker 1: So I will never be that kid again. So I'm

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Speaker 1: looking to just expand my territory. Film and TV is

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Speaker 1: really awesome and I'm growing and it's helping me grow

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Speaker 1: as an artist. UM, because I am an introvert and

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Speaker 1: I'm a homebody. I don't experience a lot of life,

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Speaker 1: so it enables me to do so, to put myself

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Speaker 1: in other shoes and have of these different experiences that

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Speaker 1: one fees the other. Luke, you have inspired me. You

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Speaker 1: just said one thing, and you said I have to

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Speaker 1: run towards the fire, because not if you're not doing that,

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Speaker 1: it's depression a paraphrase. I love that, um, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure our viewers will too. I wish you nothing but

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Speaker 1: the best of luck. Thank you for being patient with

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Speaker 1: us today, and I appreciate it. I've been longing for you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm a fan, as you will know. Um Hey,

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Speaker 1: so listen, I wish you nothing but the best. I

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Speaker 1: really do. But you don't need that because you have it.

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Speaker 1: It's in your heart and send your spirit. How powerful

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Speaker 1: was that he has to run towards the fire? And

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Speaker 1: that may not be powerful paraphrasing to you, but for me,

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Speaker 1: that hits me if I don't do something that makes

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Speaker 1: me uncomfortable, or if I don't challenge myself, what am

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Speaker 1: I doing? Why am I here? How we live in,

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Speaker 1: what we live in, what we're doing? Uh? He is

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Speaker 1: an incredible actor. True, Still worry Flipping through the channels

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Speaker 1: the other day and I see an episode of The

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Speaker 1: Shy On and I stopped because I didn't I didn't

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Speaker 1: know right away that that was Luke James, but I

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Speaker 1: stopped because there was just something and I was like,

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Speaker 1: this actor is grabbing my attention. Not what I said

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Speaker 1: in that moment, but that scene made me stop and

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Speaker 1: it was him, and I'm all like, wow, powerful. Ever

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Speaker 1: meet somebody who has that power to make you just

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Speaker 1: stop and pay attention. That is Lup James, and that

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Speaker 1: is the reason why I believe. And I said, I'm

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Speaker 1: not just saying this. We'll go back to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: run a tape, and we'll see how powerful he is.

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Speaker 1: I do want to bring this full circle and thank

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Speaker 1: him for being so thoughtful, but more importantly reminding us,

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Speaker 1: reminding me who Elijah McClean was. I'll share with you

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Speaker 1: the last thing that he said to police officers before

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Speaker 1: he lost consciousness. Okay, all I was trying to do

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Speaker 1: was become better. I will do it. I will do anything,

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Speaker 1: sacrifice my identity, I'll do it. You're phenomenal, You're beautiful,

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Speaker 1: and I love you. Try to forgive me. I'm a

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Speaker 1: mood Jim, and I I'm sorry. I'm so sorry that

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Speaker 1: really hurt. You are very strong. Teamwork makes the dreamwork.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to do that. I just

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Speaker 1: can't breathe correctly, that was assholes, right, justlike true assholes. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: that's my thought of the police officers. Anyway, I can

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Speaker 1: see why that person, that kid, the idea of who

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Speaker 1: he was and what he went through. Registers for Luke

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Speaker 1: James take a moment, enjoy some art, appreciate the love

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Speaker 1: and the air. I feel very artsy FARTSI um, I

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Speaker 1: feel like I want to hug trouble My, my producer,

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Speaker 1: who always reminds me of the name of this podcast,

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Speaker 1: which is really sad. I've had a few sor I

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Speaker 1: love you for that, Trible. You are phenomenal. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you a hug when I'm done. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. M