1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullimson with John 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Oceans and Bryan Sexton. Jacks Drive Time and starts right now. Gentlemen, now, 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: please welcome to the Field Hall of Famer Tony but 4 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: Selly earned the Hall of Fame jacket, You earned the 5 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 1: love and respect of the entire community. Only one thing 6 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 1: to see the official retirement of number seventy one by 7 00:00:52,760 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguar. Awesome, awesome look back at Tony Boselli's 8 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: halftime Hall of Fame ceremony and this week sounds of 9 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: the game. You can watch it on Jaguar sot com 10 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: right now as soon as it played. John But like 11 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: this because yes, we still have to remember it, we 12 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: still have to talk about it because it was that 13 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: cool John. That was funny. Now, I kid it. It 14 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: was a great moment, so long deserved. I've said it 15 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: a million times, but I mean it's uh. Uh. I 16 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: was ecstatic for him. I don't I don't hug that 17 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: many people. When he told me was in, I hugged him. 18 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: I cried the whole thing. Uh. And it was a 19 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: fantastic weekend. You were more intimately involved than I was. Well, 20 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: so I said on stage on Saturday night before the 21 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: debut that they did the Rich Theater in the Villa 22 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: that four when a lot of us showed up here, well, 23 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: there weren't that many of us left. When a couple 24 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: of us showed up, everything was the first right. John 25 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: was running for the you know, the first draft pick, 26 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: which was Tony in the first game, the first win, 27 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: the first lost, the first touchdown, you know all that's 28 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: a first play off game. It stretched through a couple 29 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: of years. It's been a while since we've had a 30 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: first UM and there aren't that many first left. I 31 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: think the next first to go was maybe a Super 32 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: Bowl right, appearance in a Super Bowl and Super Bowl 33 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: win whatever. UM. So it was great for the franchise, 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: and I can't say that enough. It was really important 35 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: to the franchise to have Tony Biselli into the Hall 36 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: of Fame. It's another step forward for this team. Although 37 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: it was cool too. Uh. That night I ran into 38 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: Reggie Barlow, who hadn't seen since I covered in two 39 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: thousand one. I think he left two for the Raiders, 40 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: and a couple of people with Jimmy Smith who've seen 41 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: a lot, and then other people at the event and uh, 42 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: and talking to Reggie, there was a real pride that 43 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: Tony had gone in and he was he said, hey, 44 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: when's Fred getting in? When's Jimmy getting you know? Uh, 45 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: So there's still a connection. And I think for a 46 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: long time, because there's been no Super Bowl, because there 47 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: has been a lack of success, I think some of 48 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: the alumni players UM haven't felt the connection, not necessarily 49 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: through any fault of anything. It's it's just this was 50 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: kind of blah, Well, it's just time. I mean, it's 51 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: been twenty five years now. A lot of these guys 52 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: in the nineties are as old as I am, which 53 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: is old, so you want I think they want to connect. 54 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: And there's always been a pride about this team that 55 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people naturally miss. I know, 56 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: you gotta get the big things. But it just so 57 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: I'm wearing my legend shure today right because I was 58 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: involved in this process and I just want people to 59 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: know that as I talked to former players from all 60 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: eras John not just you know, from Tony's era, UM, 61 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: there was a strong desire to be a part of 62 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: something like this, and that's why on Friday night when 63 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: they were top golf. They had a great showing. It 64 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: was a good showing here for breakfast on Saturday morning 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: and for a uh some time spent at the practice. 66 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: Stunning when you saw the photo of of Tony Brackens 67 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: who was working with Um Josh and with tray bon Um. 68 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: There was a lot of that going on and so 69 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: for these guys to have the chance to reconnect with 70 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: the Franchi eyes Um and of course on Sunday you 71 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: saw how many guys showed up for the game. It 72 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: was really good. I I think it was the start 73 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: of the renewal of this franchise. We're seeing it in 74 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 1: the facilities. Hopefully we start seeing it on the field 75 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: a little bit more week to week. Although I think 76 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: if you're honest with yourself, you can see it already 77 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: and now you're seeing it with the alumni and you 78 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: can watch the full seventy one documentary right now on 79 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube is so well done, and it is on 80 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com as well. As we get into Big 81 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: Things and Big Thing one is back for more. The 82 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: Jaguars stays in the colts again this weekend after just 83 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: playing them in Week two. Trevor Lawrence played very well 84 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: against this very defense, and coach Peterson wants him to 85 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: do it again. The thing is, when you play teams 86 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: defenses like this, like last week Houston, now now this week. 87 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, these the lovely Smiths, the Gus Bradley's of 88 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: the world, those those coordinators. Their defense is they don't 89 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: do a lot, but what they do they do it 90 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: well and they're very disciplined. And so it's from an 91 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: offensive mindset, we have to stay disciplined, and we have 92 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: to be patient and even as play callers, you know myself, 93 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: we have to, um, you know, be patient with that 94 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: sometimes and you know, they keep everything in front of you. 95 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: They don't want to give up the big play, you know. 96 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: So uh, it's just it's just that's what's that's the mentality, 97 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, and that's the mindset, um as you play, 98 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: as you play teams like that. Big thing too is 99 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: same stands whenever we talk about the jag Wars and 100 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: the Colts were always going to talk about stopping running 101 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: back Jonathan Taylor. Interestingly enough, he did not practice yesterday 102 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: and Indianapolis will pay attention to that today. But Art 103 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: and Key and really this entire defense know that this 104 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: is always the message when playing the Colts. Applying it 105 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: this week, we gotta stopped to run. We know that 106 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: they got away from the run game the first time 107 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: we played them. Um, this week they gotta feed their 108 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: work for us too. Eight. That's that's that's, that's the often. Um, 109 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna feed him the ball. They're gonna keep feeding 110 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: it and they're not gonna stop like they did the 111 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: first game. So we gotta stop to run for at 112 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: least a half and then boom and then boom. Big 113 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: thing three. Wait, a little Jaguar is going through a 114 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: rough patch right now, back to back losses, but they 115 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: all believe they will play out of it, especially with 116 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: the help of veteran leadership. You know, I think it 117 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: takes veteran leadership. You know, it's a kind of subtle 118 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: guys in and say, hey, you know it's only week five, 119 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: weeks six, Um, you know we have so many more 120 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: games left and a whole future ahead of us, and 121 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: you know there's gonna be ups and downs in our season. 122 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: And you know that's how social media works now, is 123 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: you know, you lose one week, it's time to hit 124 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: the panic button. You win the next week. It's toim 125 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: to crowns the Super Bowl chance. You know, it's it's 126 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: just how that the world is nowadays. And so you know, 127 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: for us, the veterans that have been in this league 128 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: that know how it goes, it's just keeping everybody balance, 129 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: keeping the same approach. You don't have to do anymore 130 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: than you did the week, and just being consistent in 131 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: our approach. Brian, I knew you're gonna love that answer. 132 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I can see you smiling when he said social media. 133 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: Everyone relaxed. Yeah, well, you know how I feel about that. 134 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: I was talking to one of those veteran leaders yesterday 135 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: about this team and really where the consistent he has 136 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: to show up first is on the practice field, and 137 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: I got the sense talking to him that there's a 138 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: ways that this young team has to go to play consistently. 139 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: You must learn to practice consistently at Doug and Mike 140 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: and all of his leaders are, you know, working to 141 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: develop this team's practice habits at the same time that 142 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: they're working to win games, right, And I think that's 143 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: something that we overlook is they've got a lot of 144 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: young guys. They got to know exactly the attention to 145 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: detail and the work they have to do on their 146 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: own in the film room or at home on the iPad. 147 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: They've got to learn how to win doesn't just mean 148 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: to close out a game, it's how to prepare for 149 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: the game. And I think that it was very revealing 150 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: that this player was so honest about they still have 151 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: a ways to go in terms of preparation. Yeah, it's 152 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: a young team, and they worked really hard in the 153 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: offseason and did impressive things to make it feel like 154 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: a veteran team. When I say they, I mean Tranbolky, 155 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson. You brought in veterans at most positions, but 156 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: true veteran teams have home grown guy guys who grew 157 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: up in your system at every position that everybody sort 158 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: of knows naturally as a leader, and they have other 159 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: guys who don't have to necessarily always look to that 160 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: guy for leadership. It is a young team. The two 161 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: guys who made the crucial mistakes the other day we 162 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: talked about Brian Trayvon Walker and Trevor Lawrence huge expectations. 163 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: They're also two years old, which in this league is 164 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: very very young, So I absolutely thank youth is still 165 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: a factor, and the fact that they've lost close games, 166 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: tight games games at the end. Those are things that 167 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: I know people are tired of it, but you've got 168 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: to learn it and you've got to have that veteran 169 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: presence to do those things consistently. They're working towards. I 170 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: think it's easier right now. I mean, I know people 171 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: are started of hearing patients, but it's easier when you 172 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: look at the rest of the team, the run defense, 173 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: the way the offensive line has protected the quarterback. You 174 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: can see that this is just a matter of more 175 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: time for the quarterback, which Doug has talked about, to 176 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: learn to get ready for the different situations, to learn 177 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: to be patient, try to force things. His own words 178 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: post game, I was trying to force things we've seen 179 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: that we saw in Philadelphia, all of these things. It's 180 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: a little easier to be patient if you're looking at 181 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: the big picture. Now. I want to go to number two, 182 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: and that's Jonathan Taylor. He had a big game at 183 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: the end of season two one yards, and then he 184 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: broke into a huge game in November last year hundred 185 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: and seven, and the first half since then. He had 186 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: nine yards in the first in the second half of 187 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: that game, by the way, but he only had eighteen 188 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: yards here in January and and only four yards here 189 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: in the first half of the other game. Well, how 190 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: did they do that? And all of a sudden the 191 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars run defense stock up on talent. Yeah, to a degree, 192 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: But it was the offense that got out to an 193 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: early lead and put points on the board. The defense 194 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: was able to focus on the run. They fell behind 195 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: in both games. And that's going to be the way 196 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: you stop Jonathan Taylor. Is this offense get some points 197 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: on the board and frustrate them, stop the runs. You 198 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: can set up the quarterback to stand in the pocket. 199 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: I get a john. But in order for this run 200 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: defense to stop a guy as good as Jonathan Taylor, 201 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: assuming he plays, he is the best running back in 202 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: the league right now. And if he is, if they 203 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: get away from him, it's because you've put points on 204 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, I think I think they contain Taylor 205 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: because they've done it. And from what you hear in Indianapolis, 206 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: the Colts offensive line, Uh, and that whole offense, even 207 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: when Taylor was playing, was not clicking the way it 208 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: usually does. Uh. To me, the biggest factor, the biggest change. Okay, 209 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: you stopped Taylor when they stopped Taylor in week two, 210 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan had zero options because the two receivers were 211 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: out this week. If they stopped Taylor, which I think 212 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: they'll contain in a relatively similar way, how do you 213 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: handle it when the Colts have their weapons and can 214 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: maybe instead of it being what was it ten nothing 215 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: at halftime, it's ten seven, and it's it's closer. The 216 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: play calls are different. Uh, That to me turns this 217 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: into a different matchup. I agree it is a different matchup, 218 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: but you know, he's had Michael Pittman an Ally Pierce 219 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: Now the last couple of games, he's been sacked twenty 220 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: one times, He's fumbled the ball eleven times times, and 221 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: he has turned the ball over seven times. Write in 222 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: terms of of interception. So and if you go back 223 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: to to the merger in vent, he's the only quarterback 224 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: through five games to have that kind of statistical and 225 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: he's struggled. He doesn't look like Matt Ryan, and I 226 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: think a lot of that is due to the offensive line. 227 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of pressure on these 228 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: guys to put pressure on this guy, because if you do, 229 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: you can make them much less efficient. He is somehow 230 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: they've won two of those three games since they played here, 231 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: and usually teams don't meander around like that for long, so, uh, 232 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: we'll see. It's worrisome. Schinn for sure is more to 233 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: talk about what the Jaguars drive time in this game 234 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday. We go around the locker room 235 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digial Network, Next Fields Auto Group Jacksonville, 236 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: step up to Luxury Fields Auto dot Com. We're back 237 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: to Jaguars drive time Thursday morning, getting ready for an 238 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: away game this Sunday against the Coal Since we go 239 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: around the locker room from yesterday, and the big message 240 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: really from a lot of veteran guys who have played 241 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: in this league a couple of years, is this balance 242 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: we talk about of wanting to win right now but 243 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: knowing this might take some time, and what side do 244 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: you lean on. Let's hear from racheon Jenkins and this. 245 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: The NFL is just hard to win every single game, 246 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: I will say that, but we want to win majority 247 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: of them. And that's where we're trying to get this team. 248 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: The mindset of this team, you know, we gotta win 249 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: most of these games, you know, win the games that 250 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: we're supposed to win, and you will hear the slight 251 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: game of ping pong behind all of these interviews. It 252 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: never goes away. It's still I will started the ping 253 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: pong table. Do you realize that there's a big story 254 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: this week about was it the commanders? And Ron Rivero 255 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: was praising players for making the decision to get rid 256 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: of the ping pong table, right, that's a story. I mean, 257 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: it's a story. Every year there's there's someone that says, hey, 258 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: we put the ping pong table back in because it 259 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: could it promotes unity and guys want to be there. 260 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: And then another coach says, we got rid of that 261 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: thing because it distracted guys. How come? I mean, if 262 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: you that's a problem. If they're not seeing a story. 263 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: When he's in the locker room, most teams have players lounges. 264 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: This team really doesn't have that kind of players lounges 265 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: within the locker room. It's it's whatever, it becomes just tired. 266 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm just weary. I'm a weary man on a long journey. 267 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: If you think ping pong is the problem, you've got 268 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: a much bigger problem. Sometimes you are searching dramatically and 269 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: desperately for a reason through two reds owners. That's the 270 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: problem ping pong. Alright, so let's go back to Christian Kirk. 271 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: This offense that played so well in Los Angeles and 272 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: against the Colts. We all got the taste of what 273 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: this offense could look like, and now them themselves are 274 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: trying to get back to that. It's tough, you know, 275 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: when you get a taste and you know how good 276 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: you can be. We've shown it, and I think that's 277 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: the disappointing part is you know how good we can be, 278 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: and we know we haven't been living up to our standard. 279 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: Is so hy started today and I'll go into Tomorrow 280 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: and Friday of just you know, practicing to our level 281 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: expectation and looking to get out there Sunday and just 282 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: play free and play in our game plan. I can't 283 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: hear the ping pong now table. It's a pink pound table. 284 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: You did hear Christian Kirk say practicing to our expectation, 285 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: and Brian, that goes back to you and what that 286 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: player was telling you. It's it's clear that that might 287 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: be the message this week. There are a lot of 288 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: young players that need to learn and and Doug has 289 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: said this over and over. He never gets away from Wednesday. 290 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: On Wednesday, he's not thinking about Thursday for on Thursday's 291 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: thinking about Thursday and Thursday only. And that's that's a 292 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: level of maturity, that's a level of performance that young 293 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: players have to learn. Um, we'd all like them to 294 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: be there right now, but they're not. Yea and working 295 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, I can tell you this. The veteran 296 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: player I talked to said that the other veteran players 297 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: that he talks to, they're all working on it. They're 298 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: all focused on taking it from their meeting rooms to 299 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: the practice field to the locker room so that the 300 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: pin punk game is as precise as possible. It's all 301 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: about the pain PAWNK game. All right. Let's go back 302 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: to Art and Key who practiced at outside linebacker yesterday, 303 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: and this is clear. The Colts will bring their best 304 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: on Sunday. If you aren't paying attention to week to 305 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: this game against the Colts, they will play angry on Sunday. 306 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: You're looking out two losses we have back to back. 307 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna come in and think, Okay, we got them. 308 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: They kind of down. They lost two games back to back. 309 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: We should take advantage of. But we gotta come here 310 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: ready to work Sunday, fine off offsets and and truthfully, 311 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: the Jaguars could say the same thing about the Colts. Yes, 312 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: they are struggling as well, they're squeaking by with these games. 313 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: But the Colts aren't far and away better than the 314 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Jaguars right now. That's why I think this game is 315 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: so interesting. No, it's it's so the same as last weekend. 316 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: And I would maintain, I know we built up last week. 317 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: I'll say a lot about the team, and it did it. 318 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: It's showed you they're not ready to be called contenders 319 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: yet until they win a couple and get back into it. Um. 320 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: But I think this game now you're back sort of 321 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And it's been a long time since 322 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: his team has been in the NFL, meaning they've been 323 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: down low where you knew they weren't going to be 324 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: involved very much conversation. Um. In this league, you lose 325 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: disappointing games. You sometimes sink to two and three when 326 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: you think you're better than that, and then if you 327 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: have a bad loss at home, you go on the 328 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: road and win one. And now next week, if Trevor 329 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: goes up there in those three touchdowns. There will be 330 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: fans writing me who wrote me this week that he's 331 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: a bust, wondering why he's not higher on the nfl 332 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: dot Com quarterback ranking because he's not getting love and respect. 333 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: That's how the league goes. But that's what you have 334 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: to do. You covered Del Rio's teams for years. I 335 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: always thought were sort of in the in the muck 336 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: of the NFL. They were between seven and nine and 337 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: ten and six, and they lost a couple of games 338 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: and they had fight back and get there. They made 339 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: the playoffs a couple of times too. In that way, 340 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: they were like, he was, yeah, but you've got to 341 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: if this team wins this week, then I think they'll 342 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: have a chance to get seven eight. Being the conversation 343 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: be frustrating at times and being there if if they 344 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: lose this one, you do wonder about it sort of 345 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: slide in a way. I admit I worry about that, 346 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 1: But that's what you've eventually got to break out of 347 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: and be a team that goes and wins one of 348 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: these I'm not buying the whole angry Colts thing. I mean, 349 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: they had a chance. They were angry when they came 350 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: down here in week two. They had the score of 351 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: last January, the crushing loss that painted in their locker room. 352 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: They were gonna be angry. They were gonna be angry 353 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: week stuff goes away after pay Yeah, there, there, there, 354 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: there's not much. The fans might be loud because the 355 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: Jaguars knocked him out of the playoffs and this is 356 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: their first chance to see them. Um, what you're what 357 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: you're going to see is a veteran team that's very 358 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: well coached. That That's what I worry about is that 359 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: they're so well coached and their veterans that they will 360 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: know the little differences that some of the young guys 361 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: on this team don't in terms of how to handle 362 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: the emotion of the game. Um, but I'm not I'm 363 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: not buying the angry thing he said you're gonna see 364 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: The Colts, asked Jack, were just better bring their best better, 365 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: a great thing on the practice field today and tomorrow. 366 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: And the Colts also having some extra time to prepare 367 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: for this game coming off of third tonight, they are 368 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: so certainly an advantage. They are so beat up their 369 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: injury report. If we're gonna talk about the injury report 370 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: from week two where they were missing a couple of guys. 371 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: It's even worse now, and it's in three key defensive 372 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: guys safety Quitty pay, their safety Quitty pay, and they're 373 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: missing nice shack Lanard uh Taylor be down their backup 374 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: running back. But the thing you worry about this when 375 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: we talked about on this show, the Colts since they 376 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: left Jacksonville have been winning and staying close in sort 377 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: of some ugly stay close games. Once Matt Ryan gets 378 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: into the five minute mark, at a six minute mark, 379 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: he's experienced enough, he's calm, he knows how to bring 380 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: a team back right now. I don't think he's the 381 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: physical player Trevor Lawrences. But late in games, Matt Ryan 382 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: is still saving still years in the game. You don't 383 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: want this to be a sixteen thirteen thing at the 384 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: end of the game with the coal To having the 385 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: ball at their own thirty because all of a sudden 386 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: he's he's complete in three passes. You're in. You know, 387 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: that's what you want to try to avoid absolutely, and 388 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: that is around the locker room. We come back on 389 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive times some he will, he won't, he might. 390 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: On the Jaguars Digital Network, we are back. Jaguars drive 391 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: time Thursday morning, which means it's time to look ahead 392 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: to Sunday for he will if he won't, he might 393 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: for this game, Brian, what he got, Well, I'm assuming 394 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: that Folly plays and he practiced was a little bit 395 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: limited yesterday. But look, if he plays, he will make 396 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: a huge difference. I don't believe Damian Pierce has some 397 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: of the success that he has running inside last week 398 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: breaking tackles if Folly is there. So if he plays, 399 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: he shuts down two and even three gaps that allows 400 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: Davon Hamilton's and Roy Roberts and Harris even more flexibility. 401 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: He is a massive difference. If he is on the 402 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: field on Sunday, he won't. He won't dazzle people because 403 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: that's not his game, right. Everyone keeps looking for this 404 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: defensive to ackle, to penetrate and make sacks, and he's 405 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: had a couple of moments where he's gotten towards the quarterback, 406 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: but that's not his game. UM. So he's not gonna 407 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: put up stats that have people going down totally. Um. 408 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: But he might be the most important of the free 409 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: agent that they signed because inside, especially in the a 410 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: f C South, where you have Jonathan Taylor, now Damian 411 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: Pierce and the big guy in Tennessee, Derrick Henry. You 412 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: have got to have someone who shuts down the middle 413 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: of it. I don't know how to jest. Let this 414 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: guy get away. Um. He is a tremendously powerful and 415 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: really smart interior defensive lineman. And I you know, I 416 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: think if the Jaguars end up, like John said, getting 417 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: into this eight nine ten win category, uh, he'll be 418 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: a serious candidate for m v P. Yeah. I don't 419 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: know that I said ten, but you've said before. And 420 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: I think they had a really nice, nice free agency period. 421 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk Dakasilo con Um. I'm not sure we're looking 422 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: at pro bowlers there, but in that free agency they 423 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: wanted to raise the level and get uh good people 424 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: who could lead to I think it's one of the 425 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: better free agency classes are raising the level of talent 426 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: and doing what they wanted to do that they've had 427 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: in a long time. My h three each land is 428 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: uh Devin Lloyd. I remembered it was looking at a 429 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: piece of you brought it. Yeah, and he will he will, 430 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: he might, I'll do the categories, but he will be 431 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: around the ball. Uh. Jeff Logumann give me a terrific step. 432 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: When I talked to him on Monday about this and 433 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: he said, Devin was he had eleven miss tackles. I mean, 434 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, eleven tackles and five miss tackles the other 435 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: day or something in that category we had. The point 436 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: was he was around the ball sixteen or seventeen times, 437 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: which is an insane number to be around the ball 438 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: and have a chance. He won't make every tackle because 439 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: he's young, he's still learning. Once he gets there finished 440 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: the play, UH do the things that will eventually make 441 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: him a pro bowler. In an all pro I have two. 442 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: He might land, so it's h three with a little 443 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: blasts um. He might get a pick because the guy 444 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: has an unbelievable knack for being around the ball. And 445 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: sometimes that's a sixth cent. Sometimes it's because he's so 446 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: fast and reacts so well. He almost had to pick 447 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: the other day early. Uh off a deflection at some point. 448 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: It's not a fluke. He's always either defensing a pass 449 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: making a pick. It's the last he might have excited 450 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: about Brian. This is where he might wind up being 451 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: the best defensive player the team's ever had, whoa I mean, 452 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: and it's way early, but he has that kind of potential. 453 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: He is insanely good for a young player. There doesn't 454 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: seem to be any limit. And when I say best, 455 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: you know there's been the guys Brackens. I think Brackens 456 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: best they have who put in so much time My 457 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: point in saying this and not jail and of course 458 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: never quite worked out in terms of being here. But 459 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: this guy's got that sort of playmaking ability that's sort 460 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: of dynamic. Uh. We talked about it so gushingly after 461 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: the draft that the reason I said he's gonna be 462 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: the best that I wanted to circle back to that comment. Um, 463 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: he hasn't disappointed at all in the first five weeks 464 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: and there's nothing to make you think that he's not 465 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: going to be a meteoric superstar. Um. Totally agree. Bracken 466 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: says the most sacks um machine has the most takeaways, 467 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: and this guy does both. So if he comes close 468 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: to his potential, which is, as you said, meteoric, Uh, 469 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: he's tremendous. And keep in mind because he really hasn't 470 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: figured it out yet. That was the defensive Player of 471 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: the Month and September Rookie of the month. There's something 472 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: here with no time on the practice field, no time 473 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: on the game field. In August, he did that based 474 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: on pure ability alone. Now you start to mix in 475 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: knowledge with the ability. Watch out. Yeah, I don't. I mean, 476 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's going to be the best, but 477 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: there's been that many guys. Not a preposterous statement that 478 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: quickly who look, can you go? I'm using not a 479 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: rookie guy. This kid is special, yes, and certainly doesn't 480 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: act like a rookie so well rounded, just the way 481 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: he carries himself to and everything every aspect of the game. 482 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: All right, Mike, he will he won't. He might is 483 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: Art and Key. He will play at outside linebacker. He 484 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: practiced there yesterday with Traybon Walker and Josh Allen. And 485 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: that's because Caleb and Chason is going on injured reserve. 486 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: Calebon might come back at some point in the season, 487 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: but he will be placed on injured reserve, so they 488 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: need more bodies here that will be Art and Key. 489 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: He won't be the superstar outside linebacker that we think 490 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: Traymon Walker can be and that Josh Allen will get 491 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: to be. But it's a it's a great thing for 492 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: art and Key to have this versatility where he can 493 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: shift to this and fill a spot, and he's really 494 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: excited about this. I talked to him in the locker 495 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: room yesterday and he played outside linebacker in college and 496 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: he was so looking forward to getting back to the 497 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: position he played in college. And he said he was 498 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: fired up when they told him he was making the 499 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: shift and he might just stay there. This is a 500 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: guy that was a big free agency signing. He was 501 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: a huge storyline in training camp, a really talented player 502 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: that added depth to this defense. And now we're seeing 503 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: that depth come to fruition. Right when something like this happens. 504 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: To have a guy that you can plug and play 505 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: is huge. Well, I think I think he probably does 506 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: stay there because they signed Leadbetter and Barry back to 507 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: the roster, who are bigger guys. Um it. It would 508 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: seem to me with Calebon down for some time, I 509 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: don't know how long it's going to be, but it 510 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: didn't sound like he's going to be come rushing back 511 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: to put Key back there, who I think just hasn't 512 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: eat Caleban lacks the instinct. He's got the athletics as 513 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: somebody lacks the instinct um I think arton Key has 514 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: great instincts for the quarterback. Yeah, and I think it 515 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: fit in both talking about the free agency class was 516 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: a really smart free agency class that added the right 517 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: things in spots. Arten Key's not a superstar, but it's 518 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: really good free agency signing for this sort of thing. 519 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: He makes your front seven more swarmy, you know, makes 520 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: it better. Uh. I also thought all training can in preseason, 521 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: when everybody just hammered the Jaguars for lack of depth, 522 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: I thought that whole thing all month was overrated. Uh. 523 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: I didn't think they were as thin as people thought, 524 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: and I think arden Key and Tyler Shatley sort of 525 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 1: show that. I mean, they're not deepen up. Now, if 526 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: there's another injury on the interior, or if there's another 527 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: injury outside linebacker, then all of a sudden, you start 528 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: getting into a thin area. But every team's got that. Uh. 529 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: This is not the thinnest team, and I think arden 530 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: Key is a perfect example of that. Ben Bar's being 531 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: placed on injured reserve as well and will miss the 532 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: remainder of the season. So the Jaguars getting a little 533 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: bit banged up, but not like we're seeing across the NFL. 534 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: As well, so relatively healthy as a whole. We come 535 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: back on Jaguars Drive Time some Monday's Headlines Today. Jaguars 536 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: Drive Time on a Thursday morning, predicting the results of 537 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: a Monday morning. Monday's Headlines Today, Brian, what do you 538 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: think him? I'm going nine plus three equals question mark 539 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: nine headline. No, it's not understanding. Well here's one, there's 540 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: twenty two. It's um it's nine straight losses to the Texans, 541 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: but three straight wins over the Colds. I think they're 542 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: gonna win on Sunday equals what do we know? What 543 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: this team is? In other words, so bad it makes 544 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: you think. And that's what headlines used to do to 545 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: people Canton bound, because because I think they're gonna win. 546 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: Uh And I don't know if I think they're gonna win, 547 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: but but I want to give them one more chance 548 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: before I become negative Nelly all season. I don't feel 549 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: great about it, but I can see a path where 550 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: Trevor goes up there, does the right thing against this 551 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: cover too. I mean against the cover three plays that way, 552 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: there's two. If there's two interceptions, they win, and all 553 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, every fan is gonna be like I knew, 554 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: I told you he was good. He's going to you know, 555 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: there's a little of that jackal and hide Canton bounds, 556 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a tongue in cheek because people 557 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: will overreact. If they win this week, people will have 558 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: them in Super John. Uh. Don't you think should be 559 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: in the playoffs every year? Now? I mean it will 560 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: be that. So that's my head. I think a lot 561 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: of people, me included, were disappointed with the outcome on Sunday, 562 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: primarily because, as I said yesterday, all the the the 563 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: interest in this town waiting to take over. It's like, 564 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: what did you do? Right? Um? And then when you 565 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: pull back away from it and you listen to Doug 566 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: in the players by Wednesday, you're like, yeah, I get it. 567 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: You know, young quarterbacks gonna I just I think this 568 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: is a you know, wind lows, wind loose kind of season. 569 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: I think they win. But so I never waiting to 570 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: get to yours anticipating Here's what just kept driving at 571 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: me all week. I got an email basically from somebody saying, 572 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: do you think the players will lose confidence in Trevor 573 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: if he continues this pattern of being the reason they 574 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: lost he was a FC Offensive Player of the Week 575 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. I'm sorry, I'm banging the table. I know. Yeah, no, 576 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no, correct. But that's if he 577 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: continues to be this problem. He played his best two 578 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: games in Week two and then he played in the 579 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: cold rain that Shellann is still try to get over. 580 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: How is therapy good? She's still trying to get over that. 581 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: And so he had one bad game in circumstances against 582 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: the defense that he just quite couldn't quite figure out 583 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: that day. Let's relax. Well, hey, look, the players know 584 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: who can play and who can't, and the players in 585 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: that locker room believing him because they know we can plug. 586 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: And my headline is it ain't over this whole entire week. 587 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: I've read some scripts and some stories that if the 588 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars lose on Sunday, their season is over. Yes, it's dramatic. 589 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. Yes, the expectations of this 590 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: being a playoff team and that they can get to 591 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: those eight nine wins, Yeah, that's over if the Jaguars 592 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: lose on Sunday. But it's preposterous to say that this 593 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: season is over. I think they do win on Sunday. 594 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: But I agree with Brian, it's back and forth. I 595 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: think it's a win lost type of year. One week, 596 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: one week. This team started four and seven and Tom 597 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: Coughlin's head was on the chopping block. They started winning. 598 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: They didn't stop till they got the a f C 599 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: title game. Nobody believed that four and seven. Then they 600 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: were going to win another game. Let alone make it plays, 601 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: Let alone get to within a game of the Super Bowl. 602 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 1: It's never over until you are officially eliminated, until the 603 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: Fat Lady sings right over when the Germans Bob, I 604 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: love that movie. I love it alright, Cars Drive time 605 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: on a Thursday morning. Stay with us on Jaguars dot 606 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: Com all week and long for your game coverage. We'll 607 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: see you here right in early Monday morning. See if 608 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: those headlines came true.