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Speaker 1: Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, A bar Garcia, and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, December tenth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number seventy seven. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break pretended by Geico, Live from the s WBC

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Speaker 1: Nick and Amber are live from the s WBC Mortgage

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Speaker 1: studios at the Star. It is good to have everybody

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Speaker 1: We won't worry about that right now is Dave, and

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Speaker 1: Today's a light stuffering in here. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: makes amber. Amber brings the sunshine here. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: we didn't get a chance to say happy birthday to Amber.

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Speaker 1: She had a birthday earlier this week. I think that

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Speaker 1: with It's our normal hit with Bucky Brooks today where

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. We're gonna okay, well tell you what.

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Speaker 1: let's start where we normally start. This is not a

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Speaker 1: Why are you so happy right now? Where are you

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Speaker 1: a dominant team going forward. So yeah, I can see that.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to say I'm a root against my squad,

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Speaker 1: but I can see where you would want your team

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Speaker 1: to lose to give yourself the best opportunity to upgrade

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Speaker 1: the team in the future. Yeah. And the interesting thing

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Speaker 1: here is if you look at the Cowboys, have they

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Speaker 1: don't have a single game left on the schedule. I

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Speaker 1: don't think against the team with a winning record now,

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Speaker 1: they are bad, and so it's it's hard to assume

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna win for in a row, even against

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Speaker 1: bad teams. But that's the part that certainly makes people

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Speaker 1: out because that's what's on their schedule, and those other

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Speaker 1: teams that are two games ahead of them right now

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Speaker 1: don't have that kind of benefit. They have teams that

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Speaker 1: are actually pretty good on their schedule that are left.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys, it's funny, Derek, Like, I mean, no

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Speaker 1: one expected Washington in New York to win last weekend,

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Speaker 1: right because that changes the equation because if they lose,

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Speaker 1: then you're sitting here, Hey, we're one game back. All

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Speaker 1: we have to do is win. And you probably didn't

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Speaker 1: chalk up the Baltimore Ravens game as a win, but

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Speaker 1: because they won, it changes the way that you look

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Speaker 1: at it. But you do have to say, these are

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Speaker 1: four winnable games on the schather because they're all losing teams.

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Speaker 1: If we can find our way and find our identity

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Speaker 1: and somehow find a way to get hot, which is hard.

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Speaker 1: After twelve games, there's still a possibility that you can

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Speaker 1: get a T shirt and a hat at the end

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Speaker 1: of it, So you still have to sell that hope

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Speaker 1: to your team and to your fan base because we've

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Speaker 1: seen crazier things happen in this league. It's just hard

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Speaker 1: to be optimistic when you visually saw the Baltimore gut

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys for two hundred and ninety four yards and

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Speaker 1: you're saying that they probably could have run for four

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Speaker 1: hundred if Greg Roman didn't decide to pass at all. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's just one of those really, really really weird situations

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Hey, Bucky, appreciate you joinius. We'll have you

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Speaker 1: defense and the Cowboys special teams. We didn't get a

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Speaker 1: I teased up before we went to break, the idea

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Speaker 1: that obviously we know this defense is bad. But if

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Speaker 1: right now you had to rank the different levels of

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Speaker 1: the defense defensive line, linebacker, and secondary, how would you

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Speaker 1: rank them as relatively speaking best to worst. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with you, Dave, best to worst linebackers, defensive line, and secondary.

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Speaker 1: So I think this is the classic case. You know,

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Speaker 1: Nick and I argue a lot about whether or not

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Speaker 1: you great on a curve or not, because just in

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Speaker 1: terms of like the talent level and what they've done

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Speaker 1: is probably the secondary. You know, going all the way

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Speaker 1: back to the offseason, you know, they don't have any

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Speaker 1: playmakers back there. Trayvon Diggs is like and maybe Donovan

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Speaker 1: Wilson are the only guys that you really even maybe

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Speaker 1: want to be on this team moving forward, and they've

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Speaker 1: given up a lot of plays. Having said that, it's

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Speaker 1: the linebackers. The line blackers are the absolute worst thing

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Speaker 1: about this defense because they were supposed to be a strength.

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Speaker 1: They were you know, it was a year ago that

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Speaker 1: we were talking about them maybe being the best unit

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Layton Jalen Sean Lee as like the

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Speaker 1: best third linebacker in the NFL. Jalen's on a seventy

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Speaker 1: million dollar contract, Layton's a first round pick. And they're bad.

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Speaker 1: They're very bad. The run defense is terrible, and so

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Speaker 1: I mean, not only are they not good, but it's

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Speaker 1: extra disappointing on top of that because they were supposed

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Speaker 1: to be a strength and they're not. So I would

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Speaker 1: say linebackers first, definitely easily. So you're saying that the worst, yes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so the way, they're the worst thing about this the

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Speaker 1: way I interpret that, you're saying defensive line best, then

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Speaker 1: secondary then linebackers. Yeah, I think so that's probably fair,

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Speaker 1: all right, And to be clear, that doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: I think the defensive line is good. Yes, you're asking

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Speaker 1: me to rank three bad things. It's all really all right, Amber, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where do you go? Okay, I'm I'm on the same

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Speaker 1: page as Dave with the whole thing. Like to me,

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Speaker 1: I think the linebackers are currently the worst because these

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Speaker 1: are starter guys. These are guys that you expect them. Again,

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Speaker 1: same as Dave's point, and the differences or not the difference,

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Speaker 1: but every time I look at place, I cannot help myself.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to bash on Jalen Smith, but

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Speaker 1: it's inevitable for you to not notice him. But in

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Speaker 1: a bad way, like he is really really bad. He

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Speaker 1: is so slow I cannot tell. I mean, some of

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Speaker 1: the defensive linemen, you see them running faster than Jayleen

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Speaker 1: Smith right now. And the difference with Leyton, Yes he's

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Speaker 1: not making plays, but at the same time he still

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Speaker 1: has the athleticism, he still has some energy to him

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Speaker 1: and the ability to run and run fast. But I

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Speaker 1: would say linebackers and then the secondary. I would want

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Speaker 1: to say the defensive line because of the talent there,

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Speaker 1: but I can't help talk about the secondary and how

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Speaker 1: bad they've been a just allowing receivers to make so

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Speaker 1: many plays and just you notice all the separation between

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Speaker 1: the secondary players and the receivers. It's it's so bad.

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Speaker 1: So uh yeah, same page on that as Dave. I

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Speaker 1: would say, all right, Nick, I mean it's there, it's

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Speaker 1: this is hard. I mean, because they're all they're all

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Speaker 1: bad right now, they're all bad. I would probably say

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Speaker 1: the worst. Well, had you asked the question, what's the best, best,

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Speaker 1: the worst, best, the worst between the three units or

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Speaker 1: three levels, just just like the ball goes D line

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Speaker 1: linebacker dB, maybe DBS worse. Yeah, definitely the worst. I

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Speaker 1: almost said linebacker is the best. But it's they're the same.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who's making a play? Yeah, who nobody makes

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Speaker 1: a play. You could say that about the linebackers, like,

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Speaker 1: because they have guys that you expected to make plays,

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Speaker 1: But we expect the defensive lineman to make plays to

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Speaker 1: expect do you a lot to have more than three

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Speaker 1: and a half sacks? I think he's had three sacks

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Speaker 1: in a game before, so he expected him to play

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Speaker 1: better than that. And it's just across the board. But

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a secondary at the back because they

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Speaker 1: haven't done anything. But you know, I will say this,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you on a bad unit, an overall

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Speaker 1: bad unit, and three levels that are all bad. I

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Speaker 1: started looking at, well, which ones have at least given

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Speaker 1: me some moments, given me some flash plays. Linebackers probably

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Speaker 1: the only unit that I'm like, I can't really recall

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Speaker 1: a lot of plays that they've made. You look at

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Speaker 1: some of the stuff that you've gotten from Donald Wilson,

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Speaker 1: you look at some of the plays you've gotten from

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Speaker 1: from gigs. Secondaries given you a couple of plays. They've

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Speaker 1: been bad, Don't get me wrong, all of them have

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Speaker 1: been bad, but they've given you a couple of plays.

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Speaker 1: Tank Lawns has given you some plays this season. You've

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Speaker 1: had some moments with Gallimore where you're like, oh okay,

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Speaker 1: I seal some Trinston Hill the same thing. Linebackers. Once again,

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Speaker 1: I don't recall a lot of plays being made by

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Speaker 1: the linebackers. So that's where it puts me back to like,

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Speaker 1: I think the linebackers have just performed the worst because

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Speaker 1: they have they're not making enough plays. The ironic part is, though,

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Speaker 1: the one play that they made, one of the plays

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Speaker 1: they both the two starting linebackers both didn't make a

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Speaker 1: play on that that same play, it was an interception

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Speaker 1: by Jayalen against Washington and then it took about four

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Speaker 1: days to get down to the end zone. If if

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Speaker 1: Layton would have turned around and watched event team, they

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Speaker 1: didn't make a play on the play. They even make

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Speaker 1: a play on the play. Now, that's what end did

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Speaker 1: hit Carson Wentz and force a fumble there and pretty

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Speaker 1: nice pay. Yeah that was a nice play. Ye, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna bring that one else. Okay, that's it.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of another one that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: And how many games where yeah, it's it's been a minute.

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Speaker 1: They've had opportunities and Yon's Layton's been back since what Philly, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean Layton missed like five games. He's been back

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Speaker 1: for a while though. Okay, so here's I'll change the

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Speaker 1: question a little bit based upon what you just said.

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Speaker 1: Which is the easiest and which is the hardest to fix.

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Speaker 1: Let's start first with you Nick. Yeah, um, he is

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Speaker 1: just fix coaching because basically one person you start over,

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Speaker 1: you're good, that's the person that's gonna Yeah, those people

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Speaker 1: are gonna try to fix it. Of course that's how

640
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: you start. But from a personnel standpoint, UM, I don't

641
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could really answer that on

642
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: because and I've said this before, whenever they they're drafted

643
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: in the first round, like I've got asked this yesterday,

644
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: which position do they take? And I said, they take

645
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: BA That's what they take. They take the best of all, No, no,

646
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: not best available, the badass. Yeah, and if he's a

647
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, okay, if he's a deep passworder, if he's

648
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: a deepensive tackle safety, I don't care. Whoever the badass

649
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: is that sitting right there in defense for them, that's

650
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: what they take. And so that is how you fix

651
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: that position. And then I don't know, I don't know

652
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: how to answer that, what's the best? I just think

653
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: you gotta take the best badass defensive player you can take,

654
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: and then then you gotta see where you can go

655
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: from there. I don't know. Do you know which one

656
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: you would think is the hardest to fix? Um? Secondary,

657
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: because those guys don't typically just jump right in and

658
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: start playing immediately. The best you know, I would, I

659
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: would say secondary. I don't know. You got me on

660
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: these two questions. I don't I'm not answering them. Well.

661
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm back in high school again. I

662
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: because I don't know. Well, you know, Derek does send

663
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: the rundown before the show, so he gives you some

664
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: time to look at it and think about it a

665
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: little bit. It's a good point. I ain't got the

666
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: page two, three four, all right? What you got? Easiest

667
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: and hardest to fix? Easiest? Um? I would say the

668
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: easiest would be the D line because of the talent there. Yes,

669
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: they are not at the level we all expected them

670
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: to be, but I still believe that there is talent there.

671
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: And with just I don't know what the easy fixes

672
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: will be, but if you get it right, I do

673
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: believe that they can perform at a way better level

674
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: than what we've seen so far. The hardest would probably

675
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: be the secondary because you don't really what was the

676
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: name that you guys use in English player by committee

677
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: type is that it's like that whole same mentality that

678
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: we have last year or one? Was it with the

679
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: receivers that we were just let's see, let's try out everyone.

680
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: That's how I feel that the secondary is right now.

681
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: There's no one except for Trevon Diggs that you know,

682
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a guy that's gonna turn into a

683
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: starter and be a great player for the Cowboys, or

684
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: at least that's the expectation. Other than that, looking at

685
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: the guys that are veterans that are going to become

686
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: free agents and all that, you don't really have the

687
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: talent right there. So I think that that's gonna be

688
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: the hardest because you need to find so many different

689
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: bodies to replace what you don't have right now, even

690
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: though you have bodies, but you don't have the talent.

691
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: Dave easiest and hardest to replace or fix. All right, Well,

692
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: let's let's get hardest out of the way, because that's

693
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: the easy one, and it's linebacker because you're you're saddled

694
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: with a huge contract that you can't get away from

695
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: very easily. And I mean you just you have to

696
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: find a way to fix Jalen Smith. I mean, whatever

697
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: that's that's somebody's problem, make him a viable player, or

698
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: find a way away from that contract. For that matter.

699
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: You know, Yon Layton has been he's had ups and downs,

700
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: he's been fine. But again that's I mean, that's a

701
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: sizable I know, you know, rookie contracts aren't huge, but

702
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: that's a sizeable contract for a guy that isn't playing amazing.

703
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: So that's that's the big problem. And then I would

704
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: say easiest after that, people are gonna laugh. It's probably

705
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: the second Dara in my opinion, because you have a

706
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: starting cornerback and Trayvon Diggs that you feel pretty good about.

707
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a high draft pick that you could

708
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: theoretically use on a defensive back maybe. And I you know,

709
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: people are gonna laugh because like me and Amber have

710
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: been whining for years, they don't draft safety. But this

711
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: team has fielded good defenses without elite secondaries before, like

712
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: they haven't had that, and they've still managed to piece

713
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: together some decent defenses. So you draft a few guys,

714
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: you sign a free agent like you can piece together

715
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: a competent secondary. The thing that worries me is Dallas

716
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: like good at evaluating defensive linemen, drafting them, developing them

717
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: because with the exception of DeMarcus Lawrence, their track record

718
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: says No, in the time that I've been here, you know,

719
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: I got here right after like DeMarcus Ware and Anthony

720
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: Spencer were pretty damn formidable. In the time that I've

721
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: been here, they haven't really had like this terrifying pass rush.

722
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: They've tried to piece it together. You know, they've had

723
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: some minor hits in free agency, like Jeremy Menzi and

724
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: Terrell McClain. Robert Quinn was great for a year, but

725
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: like too was a disaster. Malie Collins never really worked

726
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: out the way that you wanted it to. We'll see

727
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: about Tristan Hill and Neville Gallimore. But like in the

728
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: time that I've been here, this team has not fielded

729
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: a great front and they've put a lot of resources

730
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: into it. So that kind of concerns me that I

731
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: don't want to say they don't know what they're doing,

732
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: but that's a spot where their track run is. It's

733
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: not inspiring when you think about the fact that they've

734
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: got to add some talent to that group. Yeah, I

735
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: don't know if I agree with that all the way.

736
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Tackle was a disaster. We know that

737
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: they didn't get out of that what they expected. But

738
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: you look back and again the interesting part, you've got

739
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: to look at the history even a little bit longer

740
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: than maybe the time you've been here, Dave, because it's

741
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: been the same people making those calls. You know, McLay

742
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: has been around for a long time. Although Suskowski was

743
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: the head guy for a minute, basically it still came

744
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: back to Jerry and Stephen and and you look at

745
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: just the last I don't know, fifteen twenty years. They've

746
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: had a lot of hits on the defensive line, I think,

747
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: and I think Taco obviously was the the outlier there.

748
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't think Malie Collins was a bust. I don't

749
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: think maybe you got exactly what you wanted out of him,

750
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: but don't think he was a bust. I think he

751
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: was a decent player, decent to average, solid player that

752
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: ended up getting a better dealing free agency. So I

753
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: don't think he was a bust. It was not a

754
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: Taco situation, I would say. So. I don't know if

755
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: they necessarily have shown that they aren't good at that.

756
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: And I'll put it to you like this, there are

757
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: some positions where I feel like there it's more warranted

758
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: to say they're not really good at evaluating those positions.

759
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: Safety is one of them, obviously, But I just I

760
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: don't know if I agree with that on defensive line,

761
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: see okay, but do they are not good at evaluating

762
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: safeties or do they just not try? Like they don't

763
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: draft him and they certainly don't sign him in free agency.

764
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: Whereas on the defense, like, like I'm thinking about it

765
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: in even more detail now that we're talking about it

766
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: the real Like, let's think about the resources that they've

767
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: put in, like going all the way back, even free agency.

768
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: Henry Melton was supposed to be Rod Marinelli's three technique

769
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: that replaced Jason Hatcher didn't really work out? What about

770
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: Hardy another god off? What about Quinn? Like, if you're

771
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: giving me those things like Hyder was a good player

772
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: for them, don't don't say he wasn't Hyder was a

773
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: good player. You throw Hider out like I mean Hyder

774
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: as a fact that that's your first name as a

775
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: guy that was brought in, the fact that that's your

776
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: first name kind of proves my point. A guy that

777
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: was brought in for the role that he was brought

778
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: in for. I think he did an adequate job for

779
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: what they were bringing him into do like again, when

780
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: you're bringing in those kind of guys, those are guys

781
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: that make you not have to reach in the draft.

782
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: They're guys that can be steady, guys that can give

783
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: you good reps. And I think Kerry Hyder did that.

784
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: Did Randy Gregory. We're all rooting for him. But did

785
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 1: he live up to the billing of what they hoped

786
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: he could be? Again, maybe he wasn't a bust. But

787
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: did MALIEK. Collins live up to what they were hoping

788
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: he could be? Probably not. If you don't get a

789
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: second contract with your team as a top seventy pick,

790
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: I think that's disappointing. I just the track records not

791
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: great in my opinion. We can disagree about it, but sorry, Yeah, ever,

792
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: go ahead and have a question for you. You're a

793
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: draft guy, you know, you do the Draft show and

794
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: all that, and you look at all these talents and

795
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: I feel like with a lot of these defensive linemen,

796
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: we always talk about them pretty good, and the way

797
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: I see it is just like maybe they're not being

798
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: coached well. So when you look at these names that

799
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: you have listed, how do you remember seeing them as

800
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: before getting into a game. Here with the Cowboys. Man,

801
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: that's a that's a fantastic question, and it honestly gets

802
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: hard to do the longer you do it, because I mean, shoot,

803
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: I guess my first my first draft would have been

804
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. So I mean the guys that got drafted

805
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: back then. I mean, they've been in the league for

806
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: seven years at this point and for the most part,

807
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't, I don't fault them for

808
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: any of those picks that they made. Um So, And

809
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: for that matter, I mean Rod Marinelli was the guy

810
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: coaching them for most of that time, and I don't

811
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: know say what you will about Rod, but I trust

812
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: his ability to coach defensive lineman. So I don't. I

813
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: don't know that I specifically put it on coaching maybe

814
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: um And like again like I don't, I don't know.

815
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: I think the world of Will McClay and his guys, Like,

816
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: I think for the most part, they've done a very,

817
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: very very good job. But with the exception of DeMarcus Lawrence, Like,

818
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: there's just not a lot that you feel amazing about

819
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: in terms of like developing this pass for rush. I mean,

820
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: am I crazy for thinking that? No? I mean I

821
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: think the results are the results, And quite frankly, you

822
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: could say that about pretty much every part of this

823
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: defense right now, Like this talent is not performing to

824
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: the level that it's supposed to perform. So from that standpoint,

825
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. I just don't know that I see

826
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: this glaring difference between defensive line picks and how they've

827
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: performed versus linebackers who we've been talking about, or secondary

828
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: guys we've been talking about, or you know, you can

829
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: go down the list on the different positions, like there's

830
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: a lot of positions on this team just aren't performing

831
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: to the pedigree of what you thought they should have

832
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: when they've selected them. So again, and you know as

833
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: well as anybody else, Dave, the draft is a it

834
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: is a you know, you're rolling the dice, like you

835
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: hit on forty percent of your draft and you feel

836
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: great about it, right if you can get that first

837
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: pick right, which you better get the first pick right.

838
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: Everything else you're really betty, and you're hoping the percentages

839
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: go down the farther you get down the draft. So

840
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: it's a crapshoot and you just kind of got to

841
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: see where you go from there, and you hope that

842
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: you can get some hits, and you specially hope you

843
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: can get some hits with guys as you get farther

844
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: down the draft that are just kind of, you know,

845
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: a Dak Prescott that you get in the fourth round

846
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: to actually turn into a really really great player. Right yeah,

847
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take our final break. When we

848
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: come back. I do need to get the question in

849
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: on special teams. We're gonna gonna have a couple of

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Speaker 1: here before we finished the show, I didn't need to

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Speaker 1: talk about Greg zerline this last game. He missed three

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Speaker 1: of four field goals. He missed a forty yard or

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Speaker 1: fifty two yard or fifty three yarder. Fifty two and

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Speaker 1: fifty three didn't worry me as much as the forty

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Speaker 1: yarder did. My question for you, guys is how concerned

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Speaker 1: are you about the kicker at this point? And I'm

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Speaker 1: more speaking of it long term. Obviously this season probably

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter a ton, but going forward, has he shown

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Speaker 1: you enough to where you think you may have a

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Speaker 1: kicker or do you think you got to go back

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Speaker 1: to the well and find a kicker. Let's start first

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Speaker 1: with you, Nick. Um, I don't. I don't necessarily think

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Speaker 1: I've got to go find one. I'm not concerned really

904
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Speaker 1: at all about what he did. I'm looking trying to

905
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Speaker 1: find his stats here for this year. I mean, I

906
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Speaker 1: just he missed. He missed a forty yarder. I mean,

907
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Speaker 1: that's that's about. He missed the forty yard kick. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I was down there. I mean, it's

909
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Speaker 1: it's I had a feeling it was gonna be a

910
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Speaker 1: problem just with the wind, and it's one of the

911
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Speaker 1: toughest places to kick. And you can look at Justin Tucker.

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Speaker 1: He is exceptional. He is definitely an exceptional kicker. He's

913
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Speaker 1: better on the road than he is at home. And

914
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Speaker 1: he really yeah, he missed a kick that day as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: the two fifty yarders. I mean, I'd like for him

916
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Speaker 1: to make one, but I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna

917
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Speaker 1: judge him by that, you know, I don't. I don't like.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can judge kickers based on what

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Speaker 1: they do. Strictly on what I do is I judge

920
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the play caller for for what

921
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Speaker 1: they did. If we had more time. I mean, I

922
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Speaker 1: I was just perplexed with some of the things that

923
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Speaker 1: they did and preparing for those field goals. But now

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with the zerline at this point. Amber,

925
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Speaker 1: I'll make it quick. No, I don't either. I think

926
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Speaker 1: he just had a bad game that day. But just

927
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Speaker 1: in general, I still want the Cowboys to bring in

928
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Speaker 1: several guys and see a little competition like they never

929
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Speaker 1: bringing competition. And we've talked about the kicker position for

930
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Speaker 1: a few years now, and for some reason they just

931
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Speaker 1: simply don't like doing that in the recent years. I

932
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Speaker 1: don't know why, But regardless of the situation, every offseason,

933
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Speaker 1: I do want to see several kickers out here at

934
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Speaker 1: training camp kicking it and just going at it. Dave,

935
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Speaker 1: it's December, what tenth and this is the first time

936
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Speaker 1: we've ever had to talk about Greg zirline. I think

937
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Speaker 1: that pretty much sums it up cold Wendy Night. Two

938
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Speaker 1: of the misses are for long range. Greg didn't blame

939
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Speaker 1: it on the coach, but they screwed him by taking

940
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Speaker 1: a delay of game penalty on the forty yard or

941
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Speaker 1: and Justin Tucker missed from the same distance in the

942
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Speaker 1: same stadium, so he was hitting I think he was

943
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: hitting ninety percent before Tuesday night, and I mean it

944
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: wasn't a good night. That's not great. If it happens again,

945
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Speaker 1: that's problematic. But I'm not worried about it at all.

946
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Speaker 1: Right now, I did look at his fifty yards that

947
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: he's one of six. No, he's not great for it.

948
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Speaker 1: But by the way, I mean, but looking at his career,

949
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Speaker 1: he's last few years five and seven, four six, six

950
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Speaker 1: of seven to a four three of nine, five of seven,

951
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Speaker 1: I mean he's isn't that Also I'm sorry Nick to

952
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Speaker 1: cut you off, but like that's the conversation we had

953
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Speaker 1: for years is like, awesome, Brett Maher, I'm so happy

954
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Speaker 1: you can make it from fifty five. Can I get

955
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Speaker 1: a guy that can reliably make it from inside of fifty?

956
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Speaker 1: And by the way, Greg's or line has been doing that.

957
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Speaker 1: We were having this exact same conversation in training camp,

958
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Speaker 1: because if you remember back in training camp, he was

959
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Speaker 1: hit hitting everything below fifty and got past fifty and

960
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: it was just like, you know, he's just all all

961
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Speaker 1: over the place. Maybe he gets it, maybe he doesn't.

962
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Speaker 1: But that was where it was like is he's not

963
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Speaker 1: great to beyond fifty, but less than fifty he's gonna

964
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Speaker 1: be money. And I personally, I am a believer that

965
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Speaker 1: if I can rely on my kicker under fifty yards

966
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Speaker 1: and I get whatever I get beyond that, to me,

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Speaker 1: I'll take that in today's inn. And I'm adding extra

968
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Speaker 1: points because they're all about the same type of kick.

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Speaker 1: He's got forty five kicks this year inside of forty yards.

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Speaker 1: Forty five kicks, he's forty one of forty five. Two

971
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Speaker 1: of those are been blocked. I don't know if it's

972
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Speaker 1: low kicks or just bad blocking, but so really, missus,

973
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Speaker 1: it's you know, forty one of forty three. One extra

974
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Speaker 1: point and then that miss. That's not bad. I'm okay

975
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Speaker 1: with that. So we just get the Cowboys to convert

976
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: on third down Town and I don't know, maybe make

977
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: it to the end zone, get in the red zone

978
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: for once in a while. And quite frankly, if you're

979
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Speaker 1: kicking a fifty plus yard field goal, in my opinion,

980
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: in those kind of instances, I think you're at the

981
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: part of the field where you should be able to.

982
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: Now their defense is bad, so that that changes the

983
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: complexion of the conversation. But you should be in the

984
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: part of the field where you feel good about going

985
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: word on fourth down in those instances and converting a

986
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Speaker 1: good percentage of those. So I just think all all

987
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 1: all things considered, I think he's been fine. I don't

988
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Speaker 1: I don't get worried too much about this last game.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we appreciate you, guys, John Us. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back on tomorrow. We'll talk about the Cincinnati defense versus

991
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense. Tilling for Nick Even, Dave Helm and

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