Speaker 1: Hey, Christy, Hey, Will, how are you. I'm really great.
Speaker 1: Lisa Schaeffer's here, Lisa Schaefer, who was a voice director
Speaker 1: and directed a little show called Kim Possible. That's right,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna learn about the other side of the
Speaker 1: industry today, So stick around. Lisa Schaefer is here with us.
Speaker 1: Lisa Schaeffer, Oh my goodness, this feels like we're home.
Speaker 1: It does a little bit, right, although the number of
Speaker 1: button and I need to be able to yeah, But
Speaker 1: we were thinking about the number of times that we
Speaker 1: actually recorded together was miniscule. Sadly, it was like, how
Speaker 1: many times was it? You must know, you know, every
Speaker 1: five times? Yeah, at the most, because it was in
Speaker 1: the way beginning, and then you ended up recording with
Speaker 1: John Diggio and Nicole Sullivan. Yes, we would do that,
Speaker 1: and then Nancy was separate them sometimes and is always separate.
Speaker 1: I don't think we did one session. I remember that
Speaker 1: it was you were not there, but Nancy was in
Speaker 1: with up with Johnny and in the beginning being okay,
Speaker 1: and then she was like, no, I don't like that. Will. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She actually gave me a very nice compment. She said,
Speaker 1: you're wow, you are really great in this show, and
Speaker 1: I was like, of course, I might have made that
Speaker 1: up in my own head. I think it happened, and
Speaker 1: I'd like to remember it happened, but I should remember
Speaker 1: it that way. We should probably also tell our wonderful
Speaker 1: listening audience and watching a viewing audience. I should say
Speaker 1: who Lisa is exactly. Lisa is one of the people
Speaker 1: most responsible for recording us on Kimpossible, like essentially starting
Speaker 1: from the very beginning, and by Chris did the pilot.
Speaker 1: He did the pilot, and he did I think a
Speaker 1: few of the early episodes, a very few in the beginning,
Speaker 1: and then we would record Saturday mornings after your p
Speaker 1: s A T class because she was in Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you went off to college and we recorded you
Speaker 1: from New York and you were bell on Broadway and
Speaker 1: we recorded you from or Will Never Left. He was
Speaker 1: I'm always he was in Woodland Hills exactly. You know,
Speaker 1: I was Burbank. I was in Burbank at the time.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize, well, when we wait, when did we start? Three?
Speaker 1: Two thousand two and three was like casting and pred
Speaker 1: and I think two thousand three, two thousand four was
Speaker 1: season Then, yes, I wasn't. Lisa also has a really
Speaker 1: amazing memory. Remember something exactly. She called me Dan for
Speaker 1: the first like six episodes. I called you dude, like
Speaker 1: I call everybody. No, no, no, no. I went freelance
Speaker 1: for like I left. I was a Disney employee when
Speaker 1: we started, and I was a scheduler and a coordinator
Speaker 1: and and really that was my day job. And then
Speaker 1: they were letting me direct and direct and direct, and
Speaker 1: finally Jamie Thomas, in the head of casting, was like, okay, fly,
Speaker 1: what was the first show you ever directed? Well? I
Speaker 1: directed at a smaller animation company called The Deek Entertainment
Speaker 1: of my Childhood, So I did The Wacky World of
Speaker 1: Tech Savery was one of the first ones I did.
Speaker 1: I did some of the Inspector Gadget readers. They did
Speaker 1: old school Inspector gadgett too, though deck they were like
Speaker 1: around they created it. But that was before I got there.
Speaker 1: And you know, that's where I met, Like they had
Speaker 1: Tara and they had Cree Discovered from Toronto like when
Speaker 1: they were kids. Penny on Incopord brought her back and
Speaker 1: Race LaMarsh and all of them people. So when I
Speaker 1: came over to Disney, I went back because it was
Speaker 1: to earn my stripes as a Disney So I went
Speaker 1: back and was a talent coordinator and a booker and
Speaker 1: schedule and then some people came to you and said,
Speaker 1: we've got a show. Yeah, my Mark and Bob came
Speaker 1: and and we started working. I was casting their show.
Speaker 1: I was casting it and coordinating it and then directing
Speaker 1: it and doing all the auditions. And you know, did
Speaker 1: you ever cast it? Could you cast us? Well? Me
Speaker 1: and Mark and Bob, I mean, you know, Jamie and
Speaker 1: Dave and who team, the whole team? I remember? Okay,
Speaker 1: So I remember our animaltic that was used for the
Speaker 1: audition process. Do you remember that? Really? It was? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so it was like, well, do you maybe
Speaker 1: she remembers better than me? No, no, but no, I
Speaker 1: just remember that what had happened was they put they
Speaker 1: had put me, or maybe I came into the studio
Speaker 1: in like Disney voices and then I put myself on
Speaker 1: tape and they had showed me KPS like you know,
Speaker 1: her her picture, her description. Bob and Mark kind of
Speaker 1: like helped coax me through it because I hadn't done
Speaker 1: anything like that. Yeah, you came to Disney to our booth. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you do remember, yeah? And then I just remember
Speaker 1: though they used the pilot episode as a regular episode
Speaker 1: later down the line. Right, yes, how did that all work? Well,
Speaker 1: we did the pilot and then, but we had also
Speaker 1: concurrently started the show. So by the time the pilot
Speaker 1: came back, like we were reworking everything because like the
Speaker 1: show evolves, and so I think when you do a pilot,
Speaker 1: especially of an animated especially of an animated show, nine
Speaker 1: months goes by before it comes back. Right, So everything
Speaker 1: we had recorded twenty shows in that time, because we
Speaker 1: had gone to series and they went out. They were
Speaker 1: like boom boom, boom, boom boom, all the records happen,
Speaker 1: and then you get this one back that's kind of
Speaker 1: like off by itself. Well, and Disney was chopping it
Speaker 1: up to use it to promo. So like this one
Speaker 1: piece of dialogue I remember was not only from the
Speaker 1: audition obviously, remember like trying to really get the job
Speaker 1: with this whole little c net that me and Will's
Speaker 1: character was doing. It was like, don't freak out, Kim,
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm not like that whole thing, Okay,
Speaker 1: I do. I vaguely remember it was like the c
Speaker 1: net that they kind of chopped up and then they
Speaker 1: teased it to people. And I don't even know if
Speaker 1: they had that song yet from Christina Milion. I don't
Speaker 1: think that. I think do you were you a part
Speaker 1: of any of the musical stuff. I was a part
Speaker 1: with the musicals with you guys, but not for Christina.
Speaker 1: And what List is talking about is the naked male rap.
Speaker 1: Well not just nake, but say the word. And John
Speaker 1: DiMaggio is draging. Yes, we did the Christmas songs and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I remember John calling me after one
Speaker 1: Christmas song and going, I can't believe you hit the harmony.
Speaker 1: He literally said to because I can't believe he hit
Speaker 1: the harmony because he knows I can't sing, so he's like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe he hit the harmony. He was like, hey, thanks,
Speaker 1: He's like he couldn't. The naked that was rapping and
Speaker 1: singing or a little different though. That was my second
Speaker 1: rap song and apparently award winning trap I did not
Speaker 1: know about. Bob and Mark are the creators of Kimpossible.
Speaker 1: Bob Schooling and Mark Mark mccorle. They accepted an award
Speaker 1: for the Naked mole rap. I guess they didn't even go.
Speaker 1: They didn't. I think they found out about it after
Speaker 1: it happened. I have a question for you with regards
Speaker 1: the casting process, because one of the things that we
Speaker 1: are talking about here on I hear voices. We're trying
Speaker 1: to teach everybody kind of the entire process around making
Speaker 1: an animated series or any sort of divorce or or
Speaker 1: even if it's doing a commercial or doing a movie,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and so we are making sure we're
Speaker 1: trying to hit everybody. So that's why we have Lisa on.
Speaker 1: We're going to try to do as many directors as
Speaker 1: we can as well, and Lisa's of course a director extraordinaire.
Speaker 1: But song a bit, you've been sung a bit. You
Speaker 1: got an Emmy behind you, so you're you're've been sung
Speaker 1: a little bit. And we've had some Emmy's on this
Speaker 1: show now. Um, and apparently you got nominated for one,
Speaker 1: which I had did know until a minute ago. I
Speaker 1: had no idea. Apparently I'm the only one on Kimpossible
Speaker 1: that was not nominated for an Emmy, which I just
Speaker 1: found that Nancy was nominated. That's what I'm saying. She won.
Speaker 1: I think I thought she want I don't think. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: either way, she won for barts In which is a
Speaker 1: smaller cartoon character some people might have heard of. Um.
Speaker 1: But one of the things that's very different a lot
Speaker 1: of the times in the animated world than it is
Speaker 1: in the you know, on camera world, is in a
Speaker 1: lot of these cases, the director also is in charge
Speaker 1: of casting or is really helpful when it comes to
Speaker 1: the casting process. Yes and no. Okay, now what do
Speaker 1: you mean by certainly? Well, in the in the beginning
Speaker 1: days like earlier, Uh, because I was wearing a lot
Speaker 1: of hats, I was casting and directing, and there's shows
Speaker 1: I cast from the beginning to the end. But it
Speaker 1: depends on the studio. Like Nickelodeon has their own casting department,
Speaker 1: Disney has their own casting department, Warner Brothers has their
Speaker 1: own casting department, so they do. Did you get any say,
Speaker 1: like especially as the show is getting bigger, Yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: you know, Hey, I want to bring this person in. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But it used to be we would do that all
Speaker 1: day long, and now they have, you know, which is
Speaker 1: great for directors because you have a whole group of
Speaker 1: people who only cast, so they're they're you know, dedicated
Speaker 1: to your show, and they're dedicated to bringing you the
Speaker 1: people and you can talk to them. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a very collaborative. Um sport right. I feel really silly
Speaker 1: because a lot of times so I would report and
Speaker 1: obviously I was disconnected. Lisa was always so supportive in
Speaker 1: trying to keep me sort of connected to the rest
Speaker 1: of the cast that even if I was in New York,
Speaker 1: which I was for about a year. Um, she she
Speaker 1: was like, guess who we got cast in this one?
Speaker 1: Like we got the Taco Bell dog, like the voice
Speaker 1: of the dog fast Yeah, no, no, no, you're thinking
Speaker 1: of he was not, but that's not the Taco Bell.
Speaker 1: That's right, Carlos. It was from and he was the
Speaker 1: Taco he was. Okay, I'm not sure I ever knew that. No.
Speaker 1: Ricardo Montalbon was senior senior senior, Yes, yes, and that
Speaker 1: was phenomenal, like directing him like the icons, Debbie Reynolds,
Speaker 1: we got to direct never had to meet any of
Speaker 1: these people. That's the thing. Dakota Fanning played Baby Kim Possible. Yes,
Speaker 1: remember that like that? It was It was incredible and
Speaker 1: she was such a fan of you. I mean, that's why.
Speaker 1: I wish you guys could have because they were all
Speaker 1: such big fans of the show. When we aged everybody
Speaker 1: and young everybody. There were some huge actors on Kim
Speaker 1: Possible and that really big guy who like had to
Speaker 1: duck in when he played them the Giant, the Giant
Speaker 1: guy from Yes Oh, Kevin Michael Richardson's good friend Michael
Speaker 1: Clarke Duncan, who was the phenomenal actor and apparently according
Speaker 1: to and he played Rufous. He played Rufus the Yeahs
Speaker 1: and he was so into it, you know, like he
Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe I get to do this. So,
Speaker 1: you know, while we were in our later seasons, it
Speaker 1: was easier because people we it was a known commodity.
Speaker 1: People loved it. Dakota could not. She was like freaking out,
Speaker 1: she was so excited about it. Um So Ricardo Montbarlmo
Speaker 1: senior senior senior was it Nestor? Was he senior senior
Speaker 1: junior who gave one of the so out of character
Speaker 1: performances for an actor you've ever seen it? Just meaning
Speaker 1: like you see Nestor on things like he was just
Speaker 1: on the Morning Show, and he's in everything. He was
Speaker 1: in Batman and he's in bed and everything, and then
Speaker 1: you heard his performance and it was just so good
Speaker 1: and talk about he had never sung before. And we
Speaker 1: made him sing every boy band song relentlessly because that's
Speaker 1: what Senior Senior Junior only ever wanted to be a
Speaker 1: pop star. That was his goal. And what was the
Speaker 1: name of the band? We made up town. That's an
Speaker 1: actual that was an actual band, and we made that
Speaker 1: poor man so nervous and he would sing and we're like, well,
Speaker 1: the good news is Senior Senior Junior is a terrible singer.
Speaker 1: And and it was Adams nest Oh my god, he's dreaming.
Speaker 1: We called Nestor Carbonar in our house. He's the one
Speaker 1: who always looks like he has I make up on.
Speaker 1: He's a really good looking dude. Adam Barry, Adam Berry,
Speaker 1: Adam Barry. Oh, this guy, this guy, yeah, that guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh that's perfect, very good actor. Yeah. And he just
Speaker 1: had that father. Father was so great. I don't know
Speaker 1: to want to I want to suntan. Oh. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: So Adam Barry was the music and he Nestor would
Speaker 1: have to sing over and and he but he got
Speaker 1: through it and he was It was perfect. It was perfect.
Speaker 1: We did a lot of actual music songs and what
Speaker 1: Disney likes to put music in, Well, markam Bob like
Speaker 1: to market? Bob do some things that are pretty remarkable,
Speaker 1: Like I remember the episode where it's Mark and Bob
Speaker 1: in the boat and it's and it's and they did
Speaker 1: in the boat. And then there was one character that
Speaker 1: Ron talks about named Mary gary Anu because Gary Marianna
Speaker 1: was our did our pr um. So it's like they
Speaker 1: would throw in these little nods that only we would get.
Speaker 1: You know, it's you know, nobody watching the show is
Speaker 1: going to go, oh, that's Mark and Bob unless you
Speaker 1: Mark and Bob. So that stuff was was really really cool. Now,
Speaker 1: was there anybody that you really wanted to get on
Speaker 1: the show that you tried and tried and tried and
Speaker 1: it just didn't happen, Carrie Fisher, We tried and tried
Speaker 1: and tried for which role it was? Was it a bunch?
Speaker 1: Was it for I want to say it was a
Speaker 1: it was a villain or I can't remember. Uh. And
Speaker 1: everybody said they had their an in and everybody had
Speaker 1: an inn and and no one could get to her.
Speaker 1: And I want to say, I feel like we didn't
Speaker 1: have uh, I feel like we had a lot of
Speaker 1: male villains, especially the main ones. Amy. We had Melissa McCarthy. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's right, that was me because I was a huge
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls fan, so I got before she exped I
Speaker 1: made market and we got her, and we got a
Speaker 1: bunch of people from what I mean. Also, one of
Speaker 1: the best villains ever was she Go because she was
Speaker 1: the one who was actually she was really the mastermind
Speaker 1: of everything going on. And we had Carrie Kenny from
Speaker 1: Reno nine on one and she played another villain in
Speaker 1: a in season in a really early season. I never
Speaker 1: got to meet any She's like one of my favorite
Speaker 1: She's one of the unsungs, hysterical and the daughter of
Speaker 1: a legendary voice over actor, Larry Kenny, the original Lionel
Speaker 1: we brought onto teen Titans. Did you okay? Cool? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was the original Lione on thundercost He's so good,
Speaker 1: so good, believe. But yeah, but I want to be
Speaker 1: so happy about this. But the more I'm hearing these
Speaker 1: amazing that I didn't get a chance to record what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Did you record with Gary Cole
Speaker 1: and Jean Smart? Did you actually get to Mom and
Speaker 1: Dad Possible. I met Gary Cole a couple of times randomly,
Speaker 1: and I remember at one point I walked up to
Speaker 1: my saw him in a restaurant like years later, and
Speaker 1: I walked up to him and I said, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Mr Cole, my name's you know Will We we did
Speaker 1: Kim Possible together. Oh, yes, you know I remember him Possible. Thanks.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm gonna leave you now. Thanks. Thanks.
Speaker 1: So mellows he did that to me too. Calm is
Speaker 1: very nice. Yeah, like you never shot, very like just
Speaker 1: sit there. He was not rude. He was just very professional.
Speaker 1: And he came in, did this thing and left. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Ronald, he has this kind of way
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, yeah, we brought him into Penguins
Speaker 1: and he would come in and Jean Smart he was
Speaker 1: just my idol. I wasn't designing women super fans for me.
Speaker 1: It was just like, oh man, people that the rest
Speaker 1: of the world. I was starting to see Jeans ridiculous,
Speaker 1: insane and so good, and that they ended up airing
Speaker 1: together so you could see the full of of how
Speaker 1: talented that woman is. And again she came in completely
Speaker 1: unassuming you had no idea and she just go do
Speaker 1: whatever you want, just tell me what it is, and
Speaker 1: she'd go a hundred miles. Debbie Reynolds was the same
Speaker 1: way when she was doing Nana Possible. She's like, honey,
Speaker 1: do you want me to do the kung fu moves?
Speaker 1: I've been practicing. I kind of do do And we
Speaker 1: were just like beside ourselves. That was DeBie Reynolds, not
Speaker 1: you're in too, Carrie Fisher. Well, I think it was
Speaker 1: like we got it came. I know it was. We
Speaker 1: thought that was solid gold, and it just never happened,
Speaker 1: and I don't know where it fell apart. Now I
Speaker 1: have to ask you, this might be there might be
Speaker 1: no good answer behind this. So if there isn't just
Speaker 1: making is there a reason we never recorded with Nancy Well,
Speaker 1: I think a lot depends on schedules, so everybody's schedule dictated.
Speaker 1: She's very tried, very nicely. Now she didn't want to time.
Speaker 1: Disney wasn't doing big on some We only did it
Speaker 1: because you asked specific Oh is you it? I mean,
Speaker 1: I hope I'm not speaking out of but you made
Speaker 1: a request at one of the season breaks. I mean
Speaker 1: when the story was I wasn't gonna come back for
Speaker 1: season two. Oh my gosh. We we thought it was
Speaker 1: too It is too because we renegotiated our feet. Okay,
Speaker 1: See it wasn't had nothing, had really nothing to do
Speaker 1: with that for me, like, I can't actually want this,
Speaker 1: This is such impossible. It had absolutely nothing whatsoever to
Speaker 1: do with the money for me. Swear to god, I
Speaker 1: really didn't care about the money at all. It was
Speaker 1: that I did. I was recording by myself and I
Speaker 1: was just coming off a Batman where we there'd be
Speaker 1: twenty people in the room and there's all this energy,
Speaker 1: and then I was walking into this room by myself,
Speaker 1: and I just didn't like it. So I didn't make
Speaker 1: a stink. I didn't say anything. All I said was
Speaker 1: I think it would be better if you just got
Speaker 1: someone else. I said, I just I don't think it's
Speaker 1: for me. And then they called me and said, no,
Speaker 1: we really want you back. I said, look, guys, it's
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to I'm not. It's not well, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about money. I'm like, I swear it's not about
Speaker 1: the money at all, because you're very rich. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't about that. I wanted to record with other actors.
Speaker 1: That's amazing that I was at the time. That was
Speaker 1: a very stylistic difference between Warner Brothers because I was
Speaker 1: doing show directing, show and showdown over there and we
Speaker 1: had fourteen people lined up, seven on one side, seven
Speaker 1: on the other, and it's all raised in the middle
Speaker 1: and me screaming bloody murder at everybody. It was phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I was also doing you know, when we did Penguins,
Speaker 1: we did ten people in the room loudhouse, when before
Speaker 1: COVID we're doing twelve people in a room guards in
Speaker 1: a straight lineup, guys all look like criminals. But literally
Speaker 1: was a straight row secret Saturday something that I cast
Speaker 1: beginning to end top to They let me do that.
Speaker 1: That cast was secret was right after k Impossible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was actually a pretty great I was my goodness.
Speaker 1: He played a dark soul I did. It was cool,
Speaker 1: which was so different deep in his voice. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was even deeper than Batman. That's the deepest. Doyle was
Speaker 1: the deepest character doing a character voice. I've never heard
Speaker 1: of it. Ye, Doyle was just he was just down here,
Speaker 1: like get out of your kid, and he was he
Speaker 1: was an unhappy soul he was a mercenary. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so it was this complete departure, but it was so
Speaker 1: it was so great, you know, to do that that turn,
Speaker 1: because you know, I love working with actors, but also
Speaker 1: like love switching it up like in that that show
Speaker 1: Dietrich Babe played a character that never spoke like he
Speaker 1: made he was an alien, and the way he did
Speaker 1: it at all like that. No, he did it well,
Speaker 1: did not sound like that, but it had so much
Speaker 1: humanity and he never uttered a single actual word. He
Speaker 1: could make a sound and we would almost be in
Speaker 1: tears like it was. It was. He played this heart
Speaker 1: like it was. And I directed him, I would fists.
Speaker 1: I would direct him as if I was just like
Speaker 1: a regularly. I wasn't telling him to make sounds. I'm like,
Speaker 1: here's your emotion, here's what the scene is. And he
Speaker 1: would like and then he'd like have his mind. They'd
Speaker 1: leave his mic up because he just ad lib in
Speaker 1: the middle of it all. And it was because it
Speaker 1: weren't word didn't matter. It was genius. It really was
Speaker 1: Corey Burton. That's the first time I'd worked with Corey Burton,
Speaker 1: who is a legend. This is remember when you and
Speaker 1: I were talking about originally doing this show. I told
Speaker 1: you one of the reasons that I wanted to do
Speaker 1: it was because, Yeah, this podcast is because of a
Speaker 1: conversation I had with an actor named coryburn He was
Speaker 1: at my house. He didn't doesn't like to come to
Speaker 1: rap parties, but we had just finished ThunderCats and he came.
Speaker 1: He came, and he was there late. Everybody had left
Speaker 1: and it was just myself, Matt Mercer, and Corey Burton
Speaker 1: left and I said, I was like, this is too
Speaker 1: good an opportunity. And I said, Corey, I'm just curious,
Speaker 1: where do you come up with your characters? And he said,
Speaker 1: I have a shelf built in my mind and on
Speaker 1: that shelf they're all the characters I need. And when
Speaker 1: I need to, I reach into my mind. And I
Speaker 1: remember I was telling you the story and I was like,
Speaker 1: we need to talk to more voiceover actors to find
Speaker 1: out where they're getting it because that story. And I
Speaker 1: was like, it's nuts. Yeah, We've had such an amazing
Speaker 1: time unlocking all of these journeys that people have taken
Speaker 1: to find themselves an animation, whether it's through singing or
Speaker 1: through like Kevin Conroy, so Kevin Conroy. We had a
Speaker 1: great chat with him. I'm hoping that's not going to
Speaker 1: spoil anything, but I don't think it will. So here's
Speaker 1: the fature this after Kevin, there you go. You own
Speaker 1: the channel. Um. So with Kevin though, and this will
Speaker 1: kind of swing back to the directing thing. Kevin was
Speaker 1: approaching things in a much more like realistic, grounded approach,
Speaker 1: which is what made Batman so special. And what I
Speaker 1: think what he said was it changed like the that
Speaker 1: entire show, the whole, and I can see why you
Speaker 1: repressed to say, look, guys, this isn't my journey in
Speaker 1: this way because I'm inspired by Kevin and like, you know,
Speaker 1: you're being mentored in that regard. So it's like this
Speaker 1: is not the experience I would want. And so that
Speaker 1: was really worth it. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: was it was well, I mean again, it was also
Speaker 1: you know, like sitting this is such a selfish thing
Speaker 1: to say, but actors are inherently selfish. Um, sitting here
Speaker 1: with Lisa telling us all these amazing I want to
Speaker 1: go back to kimpossible and I want to record with
Speaker 1: all these people I did too. I want to do
Speaker 1: a huge ensemble reboot, and but just she's like, don't
Speaker 1: get excited, get excited, get excited, but it will all
Speaker 1: be always based on people's schedules, sure, you know. And
Speaker 1: so there were times we were, you know, scrambling to
Speaker 1: show up when Ricardo Montabon felt up to it, like
Speaker 1: we would make that happen point he was in and
Speaker 1: he was in ill health and it was and killed
Speaker 1: it and like he you were like, oh man, how
Speaker 1: is he going to get And then he the microphone
Speaker 1: would drop in front of his face and he would
Speaker 1: light up. And we've known a bunch of people that
Speaker 1: do like um Fred Willard. Fred Willard, I have known him,
Speaker 1: worked with him for fifteen years and and I would
Speaker 1: see him in the lobby and he'd just be kind
Speaker 1: of quiet and and he gets in front of that
Speaker 1: microphone and his whole being just lights up and it's
Speaker 1: a joy. It's a joy. It's a performer. And he
Speaker 1: but you see the inherent joy in his body, like
Speaker 1: everything comes alive. And and I think that's what makes
Speaker 1: what we do so special. It's not whether or not
Speaker 1: a camera's on you, but it's when you get to perform.
Speaker 1: And everybody would love to do anythink ensembles are one
Speaker 1: of the best things in the world to do. There
Speaker 1: are some people who don't have this, Like who's a
Speaker 1: guy who was in the Penguins cast. I won't name
Speaker 1: him because he's a crack up, and but he was
Speaker 1: very busy and we the Penguins cast to do one
Speaker 1: eleven minute show took four hours. We were ridiculous. It
Speaker 1: was I was a lunicorn. You brought me on. It
Speaker 1: was amazing, But I staid out a song. I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't even with these guys. People, And that's the thing,
Speaker 1: is you there to become a lion tamer, because I
Speaker 1: just end up yelling shut up at the top of
Speaker 1: my life at some point. There is so in those
Speaker 1: ensembles it gets tough to imagine a Jean Smart or
Speaker 1: or sit around. And so one of the guys walked
Speaker 1: in and we were going to take him by himself
Speaker 1: when this thing had wrapped and he's like, oh, maybe,
Speaker 1: I was like nope and walked out like they just
Speaker 1: look like like it's a parrot store and they're all
Speaker 1: on purchase and they were and they're magnificent. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you those it was in that room. It was
Speaker 1: it was magical. John Maggio, Danny Jacobs, Kevin Michael Richardson,
Speaker 1: James Patrick Stewart, yes, because they call him Patrick, but
Speaker 1: it's James Patrick Stewart, because you're somebody else Patrick Stewart, right,
Speaker 1: Patrick Patrick Steward. And Dietrich was a rotating character in that,
Speaker 1: and those sessions were they don't mean talk about the
Speaker 1: funniest things in the world, but there comes a point
Speaker 1: where you walk out and you're just you were like,
Speaker 1: you had to go and take a nap or have
Speaker 1: a glass of wine. But if you were an actor
Speaker 1: who had five lines in that and Nicole and we
Speaker 1: had to call in the middle of that, Nicole was
Speaker 1: game until she wasn't kidd and then she's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know how you see those old stories of Robin
Speaker 1: Williams or Robert you know, you'd see him on the
Speaker 1: old comedy you know, comedy shows, or you see him
Speaker 1: doing that kind of comic relief thing where he's just
Speaker 1: taking over. It was four of four Robin Williams against
Speaker 1: each other in a room, yes, you know, and it
Speaker 1: just became this collaborative what I found interesting furious, So
Speaker 1: what I found interesting about Lisa's directing style is that
Speaker 1: she like allowed and I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: industry standard, but you would allow for you know, improv
Speaker 1: and breathing room and creativity. You know. We talked to
Speaker 1: some like anime people and they're like, yeah, I just
Speaker 1: kind of like match the lip flaps and like that's
Speaker 1: part of it. But I'm trying to americanize it, and
Speaker 1: that's like a struggle for them. But meanwhile, it's like
Speaker 1: with these original characters from the get go, we've been
Speaker 1: able to like infuse so much of ourselves. And for me,
Speaker 1: at the time of getting hired, I was so young
Speaker 1: that I felt like that was helpful to keep her
Speaker 1: youthful and whatnot, and also somewhat challenging as I was
Speaker 1: growing older going through other things. My voice was struggling
Speaker 1: at some points, and it was like you were there
Speaker 1: through all of that, so patient and and really like
Speaker 1: you were really like this maternal hand at producing this,
Speaker 1: you know. So anyway, with the Kevin Conroy aspect of
Speaker 1: him sort of looking at sort of how he's taking
Speaker 1: direction through that Batman and sort of the nuances of that,
Speaker 1: I feel like Lisa sort of was mentioning that and
Speaker 1: so in terms of us going back and talking about
Speaker 1: Lisa's like like her beginning journey into like animation, and
Speaker 1: how did you really learn to be the great director
Speaker 1: that you are with all of these I so appreciate
Speaker 1: that compliment. And I sort of came at it and
Speaker 1: I had I had Jamie Thomason as a great role model.
Speaker 1: Andrea Romano was my god. She was like a mentor,
Speaker 1: a complete mentor. Marcia Goodman was my very early mentor.
Speaker 1: When I found out this was a job, are you kidding?
Speaker 1: I was loading. I started in advertising. I had a
Speaker 1: million jobs. And to answer your question, what I feel
Speaker 1: like with characters and character development is we bring on actors, right,
Speaker 1: so we bring you guys in to create these characters,
Speaker 1: whether it's Dietrich creating this character that doesn't speak, or
Speaker 1: you creating coming from youth. You know, you had Mark
Speaker 1: and Bob, who guess what weren't high school cheerleaders. And
Speaker 1: as we look to to create this world together, and
Speaker 1: so there is this amount of I would like to
Speaker 1: you know, we're going to get a change that's on
Speaker 1: the page that has written, But I want to hear
Speaker 1: you guys first. I always just opened it up. Here's
Speaker 1: the scene we're going to do. Whether we've got two
Speaker 1: people into booth or one person in the booth or
Speaker 1: twenty here's the scene we're gonna do. I don't give
Speaker 1: any direction, just go and then we'll talk about it,
Speaker 1: and then we'll go again, and then whatever you have thoughts,
Speaker 1: let's go again. You know, we have that luxury. We're
Speaker 1: not blocking. We're not you know, taking up people's lighting time.
Speaker 1: You know, there's not And as you get further and
Speaker 1: further into a series, you have a lot more shorthand
Speaker 1: you have a lot more Our writers know what you
Speaker 1: guys can do, which is why you got all the songs,
Speaker 1: which is why you get you know, like when we
Speaker 1: were talking about Secret Saturdays, we had Nicole doing scientific
Speaker 1: dialogue all day long because she could, you know, it
Speaker 1: just was something she she didn't know she could do that,
Speaker 1: and we didn't know she could do that. But guess
Speaker 1: what they wrote her, you know, pages of this stuff
Speaker 1: and she wanted to you know, smack him, but remember
Speaker 1: some of the words. It was like it was we'd
Speaker 1: all be like she'd get to a word in the
Speaker 1: whole cast, we like, oh, come on, yeah, like went
Speaker 1: over on two pages, and you know, and and the kids.
Speaker 1: Sam Learner, who was such a great such like a
Speaker 1: full grown adult at this Yes eight, very quickly, because
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about this yet, and I think people
Speaker 1: need to know. Kim Possible, teen, Titans Go, Scooby Doo,
Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy, Boss Baby, Big Hero six, he
Speaker 1: did Lego, d C Comics, It's Monsters, Loudhouse, Cassa Grand Days,
Speaker 1: new untitled Nickelodeon show I can't talk about. I can't
Speaker 1: talk about yet. It's actually secret life of I'm not
Speaker 1: making it up. I have no idea what you did. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so, I mean quite the resume for saying
Speaker 1: that you started in advertising. So not bad there. It's
Speaker 1: the best job I have ever dreamed of having. I
Speaker 1: love it the whole world, like the people, front to back,
Speaker 1: top to bottom. You just it's the most inclusive, the
Speaker 1: most talented. Dare I say industry, And it constantly is evolving,
Speaker 1: but it remembers its roots. It includes everybody. You include
Speaker 1: new people all the time, but you never forget the
Speaker 1: legends that come before. And and it's exploding. There's animation everywhere,
Speaker 1: so everybody can work. You know, it's not. And don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, it's competitive. I was gonna I was
Speaker 1: gonna say it absolutely and and and I shouldn't. But
Speaker 1: I feel like there's so much content right now. And
Speaker 1: whether you specialize in anime or video games, you know,
Speaker 1: like or books on tape, a lot of books at doing. Yes, um,
Speaker 1: there's worlds within the world. It's within the world. And
Speaker 1: I just am so grateful that I fell literally backwards
Speaker 1: into it. I ended up. So I started advertising. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna make your day in one quick second.
Speaker 1: But so I had a lot of entry level jobs
Speaker 1: and I had, you know, gone to you see Santa
Speaker 1: Barbers Communications major but no real like I want to
Speaker 1: do the real focus. They would say, no, no focus,
Speaker 1: And I believe it, and I'm inherently I'm a very
Speaker 1: shy person. I say, did you ever act? I didn't
Speaker 1: even speak, Like when I was a kid, I would
Speaker 1: answer the phone and not say hello, or I go
Speaker 1: to my neighbor's house and my mom would have to
Speaker 1: go home and call and tell him I was standing
Speaker 1: on it because I wouldn't knock. I'm making up for it.
Speaker 1: But but so so so, I had a bunch of
Speaker 1: jobs They all went sort of nowhere, like maybe I'll
Speaker 1: be a copywriter, maybe I'll but I was working in
Speaker 1: the accounting department, and maybe I'll do this, but I'm working.
Speaker 1: So I ended up working for this guy who wrote
Speaker 1: and produced radio commercials out of his house, and he
Speaker 1: was kind of bananas and um and this is a
Speaker 1: family friendly show, and it was it was. It was
Speaker 1: a lot. It was a lot. But you had to
Speaker 1: answer the phone in a very certain way or he
Speaker 1: get very angry. Oh please tell me how you answered
Speaker 1: the phone. Sorlely, Big and better, sorle Sorlely, Big and better. Ye.
Speaker 1: His name was John Sorley, okay, and it's big and better, yes,
Speaker 1: But there were no but that was the name of
Speaker 1: this coming. I'm not sure that Mike got that. Could
Speaker 1: you do it one more time? I actually needed to
Speaker 1: do three taps. So so my friends would call all
Speaker 1: day long because they knew I would get in trouble
Speaker 1: if I didn't answer the phone like that, and they
Speaker 1: were relentless, and so I would answer the phone, start
Speaker 1: the Big and Better, and I'd be in tears because
Speaker 1: this guy was maniacal, and there was so much terrible
Speaker 1: nous about the two of you in this well and
Speaker 1: some this is a family friendly show. It was dramatic,
Speaker 1: I'll say, I'll say it that way. So I kept
Speaker 1: sending out my resume because I knew I couldn't do
Speaker 1: this long term. So I sent my resume to Deak
Speaker 1: for some merchandise job. I'm like, I don't care. I
Speaker 1: just got and so they brought me in and the
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, we probably be better in production.
Speaker 1: We'll put you in production. And Marcia's Marcia Goodman, the
Speaker 1: head of casting, saw my resume and it is like, well,
Speaker 1: be my secretary. So I started out as her secretary
Speaker 1: and left there a director, like she really took me
Speaker 1: over how many years? Seven? Nothing like a good mentor honestly,
Speaker 1: yeah really And and so you asked, like hours ago
Speaker 1: where I got my So I learned. But you you
Speaker 1: as a director and as a as an actor, you guys,
Speaker 1: you develop your own styles, right, So you have to
Speaker 1: find what you're comfortable with. What she would do wasn't
Speaker 1: necessarily I was never going to pull that off. She
Speaker 1: was a very confident. You know. Well, it also it
Speaker 1: seems like you were really kind of traumatized by that person. Directing.
Speaker 1: You poorly at having to do the same thing over
Speaker 1: and over and over again in a certain, very particular way.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was not good. So it
Speaker 1: was not Maybe subconsciously you were like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: fix this problem. Maybe maybe that's a really good point.
Speaker 1: That's that's a really good point. So when I learned
Speaker 1: that voice directing was a job, first of all the
Speaker 1: heavens opened. And I'm because it's you get to work
Speaker 1: with writers who I love and if I would get
Speaker 1: out of my own way would do. And you get
Speaker 1: to work with actors and who are funny, who I love,
Speaker 1: and everybody is so like things like us, you know,
Speaker 1: like you're quick thinking, and uh, it literally suited me.
Speaker 1: And it was like that moment you go, oh, that's
Speaker 1: this is exactly ever I found it. I found it.
Speaker 1: I found it, and it wasn't easy, and it was
Speaker 1: I was older than most people who came into it,
Speaker 1: and but you know, I love it. I loved it.
Speaker 1: And I were you into animation, like did you grow
Speaker 1: up animation? Loving animation? But while we were at deep
Speaker 1: animaniacs came out and that changed pinking in the brain
Speaker 1: and animal I know, and and Jess and Rob and
Speaker 1: Jeff Bennett and Maurice dressed and they would come in
Speaker 1: an audition at Deek and my friend Stephanie and I
Speaker 1: would fan girl out like we had plush toys. We
Speaker 1: were in our twenties, you know, having them signed stuff
Speaker 1: and we're so I would say, you know, I watched
Speaker 1: all the I loved cartoons when I was a kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you were shy, so you enjoyed watching was it
Speaker 1: the Bugs Bunny? The context? I love the Bugs Bunny.
Speaker 1: I love Hanna Barbera stuff too. I love the Hannah
Speaker 1: Barbera stuff. Um, I watched it all. I really did,
Speaker 1: you know, just sort of take it in. And then
Speaker 1: when you got to meet all those people, like like
Speaker 1: working with Frank Boker directing the Scooby Doo, like the
Speaker 1: first Scooby Doo movie I directed, like are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Who am I who? You know? Like I used to
Speaker 1: watch and it was Frank and watching Frank you know
Speaker 1: that's a legend, legend, you know, And getting to work
Speaker 1: with him and I had worked with him years before,
Speaker 1: but getting to work with a mask tight like there
Speaker 1: was something like this moment of oh, I'm doing what
Speaker 1: you know, little six year old Lisa would be blown away.
Speaker 1: I've had a couple of you have a couple of
Speaker 1: those moments in this in this side of the Asta.
Speaker 1: Remember the first Transformers record that I did with Peter Colin,
Speaker 1: where as Optimists, he turned you went Bumblebee and we
Speaker 1: all sat there. There was myself, Cary Peyton, there was
Speaker 1: there was five forty something year old staying there staring
Speaker 1: at him, and it took me a while to go, oh,
Speaker 1: he's talking to me, like I have to answer now.
Speaker 1: And so you have that moment, and you got that
Speaker 1: with with people like Frank too, where you're like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't believe this is happening. You're talking to me
Speaker 1: and I have to answer, and we're in the same
Speaker 1: room and it's like we're colleagues and it's just the
Speaker 1: cool Kim Conroy I was like that, Mark Hamill, Mark,
Speaker 1: Mark Hamill, You've got to be kidding me, Like you
Speaker 1: don't talk about it. Loves talking, I know, but everybody
Speaker 1: said don't do it. And then you're sitting there and
Speaker 1: all you can think about you're just like, how am
Speaker 1: I not to see to me? I Luke but Batman
Speaker 1: the animated series being what it was. I was just
Speaker 1: like watching him do the Joker was just like you've
Speaker 1: got kidding. It was to me like watching Peter Cullen
Speaker 1: do Optimust Prime or Frank Welker do Megatron. I mean
Speaker 1: there in that moment, it's good. We just need to
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Speaker 1: and big and better than the Smart, Big and Better
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Speaker 1: and better. I don't even think that. I hope it's no.
Speaker 1: You know, at turned he transferred it over, he changed
Speaker 1: his professor, it became tesla Um. So yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: multi billionaire now, good choice though to walk out. And
Speaker 1: so I have a question, and it's something that you
Speaker 1: and I have talked about before. There are a rumor
Speaker 1: upon rumor upon rumor going around about certain people that
Speaker 1: were almost cast as Kim and Ron. I love that.
Speaker 1: So I've heard start with Ron. I've heard Neil Patrick Harris. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've heard John Cena, and I heard there's like one
Speaker 1: or two more big people that have come out in
Speaker 1: their social media post and said I auditioned for ron
Speaker 1: Stoppable Kim. I really only knew about Alison Hannigan and
Speaker 1: then they kind of they kind of honored that with
Speaker 1: her becoming the mom and the live action. But yeah,
Speaker 1: can you can you can you tell us? Were there
Speaker 1: any of these people that that actually auditioned for record.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really curious who else that audition for the
Speaker 1: part we're assuming who was our competition? You know that
Speaker 1: that list? I don't remember that list. I don't remember
Speaker 1: John Cena recording an audition. They did a record, I
Speaker 1: will say this, and you guys were replaced? Really and why, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know that you're gonna happen. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: What does it matter. They're not going to reboot it anyway.
Speaker 1: Don't say that we're gonna We're gonna put a flag
Speaker 1: on that. We're gonna see if if there's a chance
Speaker 1: we might not be able to say that. But but
Speaker 1: they recorded an episode was there with the two of them?
Speaker 1: I didn't direct. Chris Bailey directed it. Chris Chris by
Speaker 1: the way, great guy, love Chris Love. Chris was a sweetie.
Speaker 1: Directors get too busy once they get in the heat
Speaker 1: of animation, so he was doing like Alvin and the
Speaker 1: Chipmunks like all these like mega franchise like movies. I
Speaker 1: don't know why he left, but I'm super happy that
Speaker 1: he got too busy doing the series he directed. He
Speaker 1: was the animation director on the series. Like that's what
Speaker 1: he was doing, right, He was more in the animation,
Speaker 1: so he was directing. I think I remember him like
Speaker 1: sketching me, yeah, cell or like something, and then he
Speaker 1: had Bob and Mark signet, and then I think that's
Speaker 1: what I have at my house. I have a cell.
Speaker 1: So I guess the other question I would ask is
Speaker 1: when are we doing more episodes from your lips? I
Speaker 1: would love, love love that wells Lisa, Bob and Mark
Speaker 1: have Lisa, Bob and Mark have always been extremely supportive
Speaker 1: of you know they have of us just continuing, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's nothing crazy. It's not like
Speaker 1: some crazy reimagining. It's just continuing here. But we've talked
Speaker 1: about this before. To forget forgetting even recording more episodes
Speaker 1: of the show, we've talked about on this show, we'd
Speaker 1: like to do something that's never been done before because
Speaker 1: the entire cast has never once been in the same
Speaker 1: room together. That is true and so that's what it
Speaker 1: is saying that the anniversary year on I hear voices,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make happen. We're going to have the entire cast,
Speaker 1: You're going to be coming, going to schedule it for
Speaker 1: us exactly. We are going to have the entire Passive
Speaker 1: Kimpossible together and Christie is going to be in New
Speaker 1: York skyping exactly. No way, I'm here, You're not gonna
Speaker 1: get You're not gonna shaken me this. So that is
Speaker 1: we're looking forward to that. Now. We do have a
Speaker 1: segment on the show which we are to switch up
Speaker 1: because you're here. So we're gonna be doing something fun
Speaker 1: on the show in future episodes where we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a screen here and kids and whoever from around the
Speaker 1: country the world are going to be able to skype in,
Speaker 1: come in, zoom in, whatever whatever we're doing at the time,
Speaker 1: and talk to their favorite voice over actors and show
Speaker 1: artwork that they've drawn, and their favorite voice over actors
Speaker 1: are going to put a voice to the character that
Speaker 1: they've created. Um, so we've started on every episode. We
Speaker 1: can't do it live yet. So Christie, who's the woman
Speaker 1: sitting here? Yeah, that's Christie that's Lisa. She sent out
Speaker 1: to her her fan base and they sent in pictures.
Speaker 1: Now we've been showing them to the actors, and the
Speaker 1: actors have been doing voices. Now, since you don't do voices,
Speaker 1: I was wondering if we could switch it up and
Speaker 1: Christie and I could do the voices and you could
Speaker 1: direct us. I love Lisa directing me, so I also
Speaker 1: instantly feel like I'm in an audition room. Christie, Lisa,
Speaker 1: We're gonna start with Chris. By the way, you can
Speaker 1: be recast, I know. So wait a minute, hold on
Speaker 1: a second. Can I be recast as impossible? No? I
Speaker 1: mean as whatever character we're doing now. I'm sorry I
Speaker 1: projected that. I projected that of course they can recast this,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they will. Here you go go ahead.
Speaker 1: Wait all right, so what do we I get to see? Otherwise?
Speaker 1: How do you? Oh? Wait, she should pick? Right? Well,
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I guess that'd be the better way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you pick. That's fine. That was random. That was random.
Speaker 1: Let me see, my goodness on the top the age
Speaker 1: and the name does it does it say nine years old? Yes?
Speaker 1: So Kate is the character. And if we could show
Speaker 1: it to could you also show it to the camera there?
Speaker 1: Can you see that? Christie? You got the car? Okay?
Speaker 1: So her powers are love. She has a lover way
Speaker 1: that turns herself into a kitty. Oh my gosh. So
Speaker 1: she uh starts out as Kate and turns into Caddy. Okay, brilliant,
Speaker 1: and then she just know that's a good transformation. What
Speaker 1: agency she would you say? Well, I would say, let's
Speaker 1: say ten. I love it. So she's ten. Okay, she's
Speaker 1: tena you know she's a superhero. So it doesn't Okay,
Speaker 1: our guest don't have any lines. I don't have need
Speaker 1: lines to say that. It is true. You need lines.
Speaker 1: You have to improve it. You give me an you're
Speaker 1: a writer. We're doing this right here. Okay. So she's
Speaker 1: a little ten year old girl. That's about. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: the scene where she's about to turn. How about she's
Speaker 1: watching her friends and they're having an argument, so she
Speaker 1: has to use her love right, got it? Now she Caddy?
Speaker 1: You're impressed with yourself? I could just tell that. Look
Speaker 1: right there. So she is Kate and then she turns
Speaker 1: into Caddy. Yeah so maybe so do you think now, Lisa,
Speaker 1: do you think she has two different like voices no, no,
Speaker 1: same voice, same voice. Yeah, Okay, I think she could
Speaker 1: just be a little more aggressive when she's Cattie okay,
Speaker 1: like more growling and maybe not maybe more cat in
Speaker 1: it not to steal from Huey Lewis and the news,
Speaker 1: but maybe she says something like her catch catch phrases
Speaker 1: like and now I need the power of love, like
Speaker 1: something like oh right, because it's I need the power
Speaker 1: I need Yeah, I need my love ray. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: So hi everyone, my name is Kate. Um. I really
Speaker 1: love my family and I really love my friends, but
Speaker 1: when they get into fights, it makes me really want
Speaker 1: to just help them out. And so I have this thing.
Speaker 1: It's called a love ray, and so basically what I
Speaker 1: do is I will I will use it after um
Speaker 1: I shoot it out. It has these very like happy,
Speaker 1: warm little hearts that shoot out and they touch them
Speaker 1: and they feel happy and they want to hug each
Speaker 1: other again. Um. But the other thing that kind of
Speaker 1: happens is that I need to use the letter box
Speaker 1: because I'm a cat, so I have to go poop
Speaker 1: in the letter box. But maybe instead of I like
Speaker 1: that o, um, so I don't go pe pep peple.
Speaker 1: Lisa said, I don't do that. I go and seen
Speaker 1: and see and see. Thank you, Lisa. I don't think
Speaker 1: I can top that. No, definitely, that was that effectively
Speaker 1: a ten year old girl. Well I think it was
Speaker 1: that ten year old girl. Good news is your half cat,
Speaker 1: so it could be any so kind of yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but you could be harsh on me. You can tell
Speaker 1: me was that a ten year old thing? Anything you want,
Speaker 1: that's true. It depends on the animation. On the animation,
Speaker 1: depends on the style. Some people want actual kids, like
Speaker 1: I've done to preschool shows where it's real kids, and
Speaker 1: that is what's that like? Doing preschool shows? It's like
Speaker 1: a circus. Okay, the kids are great. The quality of
Speaker 1: the voice of the kids is great. My goodness, they are.
Speaker 1: It's like the old Peanuts stuff. It is like the
Speaker 1: old Peanuts stuff, but the tragedy of it, and there
Speaker 1: is this serious tragedy to it. Little boys age out
Speaker 1: like that. And so that's why so many women miles
Speaker 1: from tomorrowland and then the next five miles and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh no, but that's why so many women do boy
Speaker 1: voices because the voices don't change. So it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a real stylistic choice, you know. So for Loudhouse,
Speaker 1: for instance, we have a real Clyde and Lincoln are
Speaker 1: actual kids. All the ten sisters are adults doing doing
Speaker 1: different ages, different ages. But it's also very caricatured and
Speaker 1: not like specifically to sound like children because you put
Speaker 1: them next to real children, they don't. But it's it's
Speaker 1: a stylistic choice and it really works. Unfortunately, Lincoln and Clyde,
Speaker 1: we're on Clyde number four and Can number five, and
Speaker 1: we didn't. We did that with our characters to twelve.
Speaker 1: Until it's like, so I'm really young, maybe they're not.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, what's that conversation? Like I
Speaker 1: know Lisa is probably trying to help the situation. We
Speaker 1: do to I try not to just kids. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're too old, but but it is. It's a delicate conversation. Luckily,
Speaker 1: now that they're casting directors, they do that. But also
Speaker 1: the kids now, like the Lincolns now know that there
Speaker 1: are four Lincolns before them, like it's no, maybe it's
Speaker 1: not because we don't like you. You out it's your voice.
Speaker 1: So you're going to college next year and some of them,
Speaker 1: Like it depends on Like we've had kids at last
Speaker 1: one of our clients last three and a half seasons
Speaker 1: and we just had to let them go and it's
Speaker 1: like like it's hard. It's there. That's better though then
Speaker 1: some babies sitting there, you know, going I was Lincoln
Speaker 1: number two. Yeah, like that something that was the highlight
Speaker 1: of my again, and what we do in Loudhouse, because
Speaker 1: there's such a great group of producers and writers and
Speaker 1: directors is they write these characters. Now Grant Lincoln one
Speaker 1: works at one of the fast food restaurants. Oh I
Speaker 1: love that, and so and he's Grant and he's eighteen
Speaker 1: and so he's back. And we had Khalil Clyde number
Speaker 1: one come back as m and so it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's nothing personally, you know, like we're not trying. So
Speaker 1: for Miles from Tremorrowland, we went through three miles Boss Baby.
Speaker 1: In the beginning, they made a stylistic choice to keep
Speaker 1: our our Tim and even though Tim started growing up,
Speaker 1: we just started hitching it, you know, and we took
Speaker 1: it as far as we could go. And did you
Speaker 1: use real babies? Yes, that's what I thought, real actual
Speaker 1: infants most of the being to talk to her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you have to well and how to switch pages
Speaker 1: without making noise. Man, you look at an eighteen month
Speaker 1: old and go, you've aged out, kid, You're done show business? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're washed up. Ain't your friends take your rattle and
Speaker 1: walking out for you? Now? Geez, you're ready for wait?
Speaker 1: Let me never want. I almost wanted to see. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I want You've seen every show I've ever worked. I
Speaker 1: was thinking about that the other day, Like, it's pretty close.
Speaker 1: I'm lucky that I picked something that I could really
Speaker 1: go for it. But like I think, I think maybe
Speaker 1: she should cast you like her actual casting. She would
Speaker 1: have she would have picked this one for me. I
Speaker 1: bet guarantee it. You realize you're literally doing the opposite
Speaker 1: of what is random. Whatever you want? Man should pretty princesses.
Speaker 1: You know this is the modern times. Anybody can be
Speaker 1: at another cat, A lot of cats, A lot of cats.
Speaker 1: I got another cat. I tell you I like cats.
Speaker 1: We had two other cats to listen. Angry cat. Let's
Speaker 1: do this guy. He's angry. Easy information, that's okay. Why
Speaker 1: are you why are you starting? Oh no? Why are
Speaker 1: you starving me? Cat? That seems to me he's not
Speaker 1: starving because he's got food right here, all right, So
Speaker 1: that's um, that's a very disgruntled cat. He's very angry.
Speaker 1: Does he have an accent? Yeah, he's British. So I
Speaker 1: see him like this? Why why why don't you feed me? No?
Speaker 1: He got second rate food? I think he's better now.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're just running improv Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he's like this. You know, he's just look at him.
Speaker 1: I don't mind. He's got a list of grievances. He does.
Speaker 1: I've got a bigger and more. You want bigger and
Speaker 1: so I've got some grievances, you folks. It's not right
Speaker 1: for me to just constantly be given no food. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the food you gave me is what my mom
Speaker 1: would call sub port, not sub part. You like it,
Speaker 1: no subpar that exactly, so exactly. Got play the puns
Speaker 1: the whole time. So this is how it would be.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel. I've got big eyes because there's
Speaker 1: times I'm cute, but don't come near makes a scratch
Speaker 1: your freaking basil. That's what I look. That's happy when
Speaker 1: I'm happy, which is never never, So don't come near me.
Speaker 1: My little box is mine. Kate came in the other
Speaker 1: day tried to drop a deuce in my little box.
Speaker 1: Not that's that right, I'm gonna shoot keep you found
Speaker 1: it in a cracker jack box. It's not really a
Speaker 1: love ray. You're just making noise. Okay, So of course
Speaker 1: you're not. You don't transform a girl. Cat deal fits No.
Speaker 1: There there's a show there, you go there, there's a
Speaker 1: show that would be my Angry Cat. And you would
Speaker 1: then go, thank you, Phil, And then you would have
Speaker 1: me leave the room because you didn't even learn my
Speaker 1: name as I was getting in there. That's what that
Speaker 1: would happen with me. It takes me a long time
Speaker 1: to learn people. Okay, So I have one very quick
Speaker 1: question then for you, for all intensive purposes. You've now
Speaker 1: got ten or twelve actors, and let's say you're doing
Speaker 1: an ensemble. You you're a very shy person. You're in
Speaker 1: your first record. You've now got ten or twelve actors
Speaker 1: staring at you, waiting for direction. Were you terrified? Were
Speaker 1: you just I'm going to fake it till I make it?
Speaker 1: Were you quiet in the mic? Or did you jump in? Nope,
Speaker 1: I jumped in. There you go and It was the
Speaker 1: best thing I ever did for myself because I found
Speaker 1: my voice. I heard my voice, and I found my
Speaker 1: voice and I got into it late, um, but it
Speaker 1: was exactly what I needed. And I mean, there are
Speaker 1: days I'm still terrified their days where it doesn't go great,
Speaker 1: and there are days where you know you're left. You
Speaker 1: know it's not it's it's it's a phenomenal career. And
Speaker 1: I am super lucky. There are days where it sucks
Speaker 1: everything but like everything, but on balance, I am such
Speaker 1: a lucky human being. And I remember on Penguins we
Speaker 1: did a Christmas special and Carl Reiner played Santa Claus
Speaker 1: come on well and and your dad Elliot Goulde. I
Speaker 1: freaked out, did you you didn't know? I didn't get
Speaker 1: to recorded any of these people. Hearing all these incredible
Speaker 1: people any getting me gold. I was like looking at
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was looking at school, because
Speaker 1: what was he going to do? You know, get over
Speaker 1: with Lisa, And I was just and I did it
Speaker 1: and he was so over. He's like, thank you so much,
Speaker 1: and he was so receptive and so into it, and
Speaker 1: just every time after that was a joy. And then
Speaker 1: years later we when we were doing Penguins and Carl
Speaker 1: Reiner came in and I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Are you You know, in my brain I'm directing Carl
Speaker 1: Reiner and I'm outside my body. And and I don't
Speaker 1: think we we didn't do that as an ensemble, although
Speaker 1: I think that the actors were around. You get that's
Speaker 1: the thing, and you get to work. What's what's sad
Speaker 1: now is what what's great now is animation was the
Speaker 1: first thing to come back. And we were recording right away,
Speaker 1: and we figured it out and we re recorded what
Speaker 1: we had to and it's been this huge learning curve
Speaker 1: through COVID and it's incredible. And now it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: where you are. We can record you anywhere. You could
Speaker 1: be in your closet, but you can be in your
Speaker 1: closet in Sydney, Australia, in you know, Budapest. It doesn't
Speaker 1: doesn't because I remember when I was recording in New York,
Speaker 1: it was a hole to do. Oh it was a
Speaker 1: sink and patch and this it took hours and like
Speaker 1: it had to have a certain kind of engineer at
Speaker 1: a certain studio are and and and only be in
Speaker 1: the last five years would this have been possible nowadays,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have had to leave your dorm room would
Speaker 1: have been maybe she would have had to find a
Speaker 1: real quiet dorm. Yeah, I mean you can be the equipment.
Speaker 1: You get the equipment now for broadcast auditions, technically you
Speaker 1: can do them on your voice memo. Jason Martin used
Speaker 1: to do it in his car, covered in a towel.
Speaker 1: Well he booked. I mean, this is even back in
Speaker 1: the day. He booked spirited away from his closet. That
Speaker 1: was even back in the day. So cool. So we
Speaker 1: still get to work with tremendous phenomenal people, but we're
Speaker 1: never in the same room now, And I don't know
Speaker 1: when that goes back because sad rules are dictating what
Speaker 1: we do in a recording booth yea, and the booth
Speaker 1: has to sit for half an hour if people go in.
Speaker 1: I always record in the booth. Still, I always go
Speaker 1: in and recording the You have your own booth at
Speaker 1: your house, no, but I go I I don't use it.
Speaker 1: I use it for auditions, But I still physically go
Speaker 1: into the studio and they couldn't be safer. But now
Speaker 1: you couldn't record with somebody because your union wouldn't know.
Speaker 1: You don't do it. I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1: You've also coined the phrase, so you can start using this.
Speaker 1: Coined the phrase b CT which is before COVID time.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so in the before times we would, you know.
Speaker 1: But but we still get to record amazing people. And
Speaker 1: now they're more apt to do it because we can
Speaker 1: send out. They do have to do a little Some
Speaker 1: people get a little irritated doing some of the engineering. Um,
Speaker 1: because that's I still don't really know how to do it. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: And I went to Trevor's house for the first part
Speaker 1: of COVID. I literally went to Trevor's house. He would
Speaker 1: wear a mask. I would wear a mask, and then
Speaker 1: I would walk past him. I'd go into his booth.
Speaker 1: He'd have it COVID protocols, like dude, I'll cord you.
Speaker 1: And it was the greatest thing in the world. Is
Speaker 1: Trevor Is Trevor one of our engineers? No, Trevor devl
Speaker 1: is an phenomenal actor who listens. He's now in Texas.
Speaker 1: He moved to Texas. Oh yeah, Trevor's lived in Texas
Speaker 1: from the way Lissa went to to Texas. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so what do you think the future of animation is then?
Speaker 1: Besides this integrated the new way of recording, regardless of
Speaker 1: the I think it's going to be hybrid from now on.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be. It's not going to
Speaker 1: go back a percent, not for a long time. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I think. I think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that aren't going to be comfortable. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of people that love doing it from home that don't.
Speaker 1: You know you like to do you like directing from
Speaker 1: home parts of it? I love sure parts of it.
Speaker 1: You don't parts of it or you know parts of it.
Speaker 1: I don't get to meet somebody in person like I've
Speaker 1: been working with Miley forever, but I see you on
Speaker 1: this little tiny my planic time. I don't turn on
Speaker 1: my camera anymore like I did in the beginning. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't. I do stare at myself. This is awful.
Speaker 1: I hate this. And I turned off my camera and
Speaker 1: I'll go on for when I work with kids or
Speaker 1: somebody that doesn't know me. Um, I forgot yesterday and
Speaker 1: I have a picture of my horse who was dressed
Speaker 1: up as a pimp for Halloween. Okay, sorry, I was
Speaker 1: trying to be as pacy as possible. But he's a
Speaker 1: horse and so but that's my picture and this yeah,
Speaker 1: and so we're recording this woman from London and she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I know I've worked with you before, but
Speaker 1: all I see is a horse. Your name, isn't it fine?
Speaker 1: Well I could put up my dog, but her ears
Speaker 1: are died different colors. Your your dog. A quick shout
Speaker 1: out to but thank you so much for we It
Speaker 1: really is an honor. We love you so much. No,
Speaker 1: I love you guys. I mean this is my first
Speaker 1: Showpile was my heart will always be always in fever.
Speaker 1: Well you can hope, right, I mean everything's getting rebooted, right,
Speaker 1: Well they did it impossible, but they did the live
Speaker 1: action version. But I mean, like Proud Family just came
Speaker 1: in its original form with its original characters and casts.
Speaker 1: I think it could happen. I would never happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would like to happen. We I would. But we first,
Speaker 1: we just want to get the cast together because I
Speaker 1: want to meet some people, be in the same room
Speaker 1: for one considered a failure if you don't get absolutely
Speaker 1: every I want everyone's Lisa's. We got Lisa now she can.
Speaker 1: That'll be a trick. I always say that's my My
Speaker 1: wife always rolls her eyes when I say this, But
Speaker 1: I say, actors never die, they're just unavailable. Marked out,
Speaker 1: he's booked. That's from my friend George Walks movie Swimming
Speaker 1: with Sharks. Shout out to George, shout who would you read?
Speaker 1: Who would we replace Ricardo Montale with them? There you go? Wow,
Speaker 1: that was quick. Did he well? Talked to him to
Speaker 1: put some boots like he that's that's okay. So final
Speaker 1: question before you go, And you don't have to give
Speaker 1: us a name. Okay, okay, you don't have to give
Speaker 1: us a name, all right, But if somebody said to you,
Speaker 1: who's the best voiceover actor you've ever worked with? Does
Speaker 1: somebody instantly pop in your head? Okay, you don't have
Speaker 1: to tell us. You you can if you want, I
Speaker 1: think you yeah, okay, wanted, I'm not telling Okay, that's
Speaker 1: exactly I was not gonna. I'm not gonna put you
Speaker 1: on the hook. But instantly somebody comes in your head
Speaker 1: a huge smile on her face too. Yeah, Well, and
Speaker 1: you know what, you can ask me that and I
Speaker 1: could I could give you twenty people. Oh, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: but but that's people you could give people. But that's
Speaker 1: what makes our talent upon talent upon talent upon talent
Speaker 1: upon talent, and talent on me Tomorrow that will add
Speaker 1: to that list. I keep a book of people I
Speaker 1: work with because I used to keep it at you know,
Speaker 1: when I was a coordinator, I would have all they have.
Speaker 1: They have databases on the Disney and Warner Brothers things,
Speaker 1: so you just have access, you know, like who was
Speaker 1: that person I work with? I write things down now
Speaker 1: because I'm meet a million people and I'm older than
Speaker 1: I was, older than I was, and so I write
Speaker 1: them down so I'll remember, like when I cast and
Speaker 1: all this, this person is great. You know, there are
Speaker 1: people that are in my head because I've been doing
Speaker 1: this for twenty who will be the first twenty people
Speaker 1: I ever said, because they've I've worked with them for
Speaker 1: But these I also keep this other thing because there's
Speaker 1: tomorrow you never know. So then let me follow this
Speaker 1: up with a sort of like a closing thought. We
Speaker 1: always have people that come to us at comic cons
Speaker 1: and like, how do I break into VO world? And
Speaker 1: he's he has some really great resources that he's sort
Speaker 1: of thrown out there. But I mean, what do you
Speaker 1: think what's going to give them? The brother Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the actually breaking I always say to people because the
Speaker 1: I've had people come to me, friends and my dad.
Speaker 1: And this is an absolute true story. When I was
Speaker 1: a deek, I had just started and this guy is
Speaker 1: an attorney and and a big famous attorney. He's like,
Speaker 1: I just can I take you to lunch? I just
Speaker 1: really want to get into voice over. I'm like, are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Like I've known
Speaker 1: in my whole life, And I keep your date like,
Speaker 1: you're not an actor, Like, here's the thing, you you're
Speaker 1: an actor. Actor. You need to be an actor first, foremost, always.
Speaker 1: Every Mike technique can be taught everything else, but actors
Speaker 1: developed characters, developed voices that we don't want you ever
Speaker 1: doing anything that damages your voice. We don't ever want
Speaker 1: you doing something that you're not comfortable doing. Actors created
Speaker 1: from themselves and and it, yeah, we strip away. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you look like, it doesn't matter you
Speaker 1: know what you're doing with your hands. Most likely I
Speaker 1: will tell you to stop moving around. You know, when
Speaker 1: you get a lot of on camera people who think
Speaker 1: they have to gesture and move in that used to Nicole.
Speaker 1: It's all has been crazy. When we would put her
Speaker 1: like on camera, people feel like they have to like
Speaker 1: make eye contact with you. You're in the scene, so
Speaker 1: they turn away and they're a they're off Mike, but
Speaker 1: be nobody's off books and I don't know what reading.
Speaker 1: I'm usually off book. Yeah, I'm usually having because you're
Speaker 1: improvising everything because everything is falling on the But so
Speaker 1: I always say, you know, they're like I can do
Speaker 1: funny voice them. I great, but you have to be
Speaker 1: an actor. That's we keep hearing that same thing over
Speaker 1: and over again. Yeah, I mean, very lucky that we
Speaker 1: get to dispense that advice. But d has distilled it
Speaker 1: in such a it's such a kind hearted, genuine breakdown.
Speaker 1: It's throw and Steve Bloom and Everett Oliver and all
Speaker 1: these people who teach. I have taught a couple of
Speaker 1: Mike Everett. I'm not really a teacher because I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't come from acting. I can't teach you how
Speaker 1: to act. Right. Christie came as a sixteen year old
Speaker 1: phenomenal actress. I could work with her, and we could
Speaker 1: work together, but I couldn't teach her to act because
Speaker 1: I'm not an acting teacher. I'm my My way into
Speaker 1: KP was authentic, and that's kind of you. You helped
Speaker 1: me along. But we we grew together, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we would come together and we would and look,
Speaker 1: she carried the show. She had the bulk of the day. Yeah, Christie,
Speaker 1: you had all the dialogue, and you were by yourself
Speaker 1: as a sixteen year old all the time. I'm going
Speaker 1: to cry. You should, I mean, so you should cry
Speaker 1: right now, crying on cue that's so sweetly, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything dynamic with my voice. But again,
Speaker 1: because you acted, you didn't need to. You didn't need
Speaker 1: to change your voice until very much later. Sure, yes,
Speaker 1: as and then you had I can still do the voice,
Speaker 1: by the way, Yes, of course you can figured it
Speaker 1: out the technique now too. And you know you could
Speaker 1: also go at seven o'clock at night and show up
Speaker 1: on Broadway for crying out loud. You ented, but you
Speaker 1: learned how to use it right as you grew up. Yes,
Speaker 1: and I had the support in the mentorship. I think
Speaker 1: what's really interesting is that, yes, it's if you're a
Speaker 1: voice over actor, you can't just do the voice over.
Speaker 1: You have to be the actor part. Know you're an actor.
Speaker 1: And again because that same thing we've all we've all
Speaker 1: met people I do funny voices, that's great, but you
Speaker 1: got to be an actor or the people that say, oh,
Speaker 1: you're not a real actor, you're a voice actor, like
Speaker 1: that drives me and say, yeah, yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: Punch's just somebody who doesn't know. Well, that's exactly right,
Speaker 1: Like this is something you're interested in, then let me
Speaker 1: say go to acting, you know, or learn your craft,
Speaker 1: because it absolutely is one great advice from a great director. You, Lisa,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on joining us. This
Speaker 1: is really cool. You are the first director we're having
Speaker 1: on I Hear Voices, which is an absolutely apt when
Speaker 1: it comes to Kim Possible and why we're here and
Speaker 1: all the other stuff than people where they were meeting,
Speaker 1: and so thank you so much for joining. Thank you.
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