WEBVTT - Voice Director of Kim Possible Spills the Tea! 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.559 Hey, Christy, Hey, Will, how are you. I'm really great. 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:06.000 Lisa Schaeffer's here, Lisa Schaefer, who was a voice director 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.640 and directed a little show called Kim Possible. That's right, 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:10.039 So we're gonna learn about the other side of the 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:22.239 industry today, So stick around. Lisa Schaefer is here with us. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.360 Lisa Schaeffer, Oh my goodness, this feels like we're home. 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.240 It does a little bit, right, although the number of 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:33.519 button and I need to be able to yeah, But 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.519 we were thinking about the number of times that we 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.959 actually recorded together was miniscule. Sadly, it was like, how 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:41.880 many times was it? You must know, you know, every 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.760 five times? Yeah, at the most, because it was in 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.839 the way beginning, and then you ended up recording with 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.800 John Diggio and Nicole Sullivan. Yes, we would do that, 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.600 and then Nancy was separate them sometimes and is always separate. 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.760 I don't think we did one session. I remember that 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.560 it was you were not there, but Nancy was in 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:05.560 with up with Johnny and in the beginning being okay, 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.520 and then she was like, no, I don't like that. Will. Yeah. 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:10.959 She actually gave me a very nice compment. She said, 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:12.800 you're wow, you are really great in this show, and 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.320 I was like, of course, I might have made that 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.440 up in my own head. I think it happened, and 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.560 I'd like to remember it happened, but I should remember 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.680 it that way. We should probably also tell our wonderful 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.360 listening audience and watching a viewing audience. I should say 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.320 who Lisa is exactly. Lisa is one of the people 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:34.320 most responsible for recording us on Kimpossible, like essentially starting 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:39.240 from the very beginning, and by Chris did the pilot. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.200 He did the pilot, and he did I think a 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.240 few of the early episodes, a very few in the beginning, 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:49.160 and then we would record Saturday mornings after your p 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:54.840 s A T class because she was in Yeah, and 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:56.960 then you went off to college and we recorded you 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:58.960 from New York and you were bell on Broadway and 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.400 we recorded you from or Will Never Left. He was 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.960 I'm always he was in Woodland Hills exactly. You know, 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.080 I was Burbank. I was in Burbank at the time. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:14.280 I didn't realize, well, when we wait, when did we start? Three? 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:20.240 Two thousand two and three was like casting and pred 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.120 and I think two thousand three, two thousand four was 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.400 season Then, yes, I wasn't. Lisa also has a really 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.600 amazing memory. Remember something exactly. She called me Dan for 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:35.079 the first like six episodes. I called you dude, like 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.760 I call everybody. No, no, no, no. I went freelance 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.280 for like I left. I was a Disney employee when 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:46.359 we started, and I was a scheduler and a coordinator 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.519 and and really that was my day job. And then 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.080 they were letting me direct and direct and direct, and 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:57.120 finally Jamie Thomas, in the head of casting, was like, okay, fly, 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.360 what was the first show you ever directed? Well? I 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.800 directed at a smaller animation company called The Deek Entertainment 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:10.120 of my Childhood, So I did The Wacky World of 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.880 Tech Savery was one of the first ones I did. 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.720 I did some of the Inspector Gadget readers. They did 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.920 old school Inspector gadgett too, though deck they were like 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.280 around they created it. But that was before I got there. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.160 And you know, that's where I met, Like they had 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.959 Tara and they had Cree Discovered from Toronto like when 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:35.560 they were kids. Penny on Incopord brought her back and 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:41.320 Race LaMarsh and all of them people. So when I 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.600 came over to Disney, I went back because it was 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.560 to earn my stripes as a Disney So I went 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.240 back and was a talent coordinator and a booker and 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.160 schedule and then some people came to you and said, 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.520 we've got a show. Yeah, my Mark and Bob came 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.080 and and we started working. I was casting their show. 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:05.680 I was casting it and coordinating it and then directing 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.560 it and doing all the auditions. And you know, did 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.040 you ever cast it? Could you cast us? Well? Me 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.480 and Mark and Bob, I mean, you know, Jamie and 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.919 Dave and who team, the whole team? I remember? Okay, 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.159 So I remember our animaltic that was used for the 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.440 audition process. Do you remember that? Really? It was? Yeah? 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.599 I think so it was like, well, do you maybe 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.440 she remembers better than me? No, no, but no, I 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.920 just remember that what had happened was they put they 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.880 had put me, or maybe I came into the studio 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.479 in like Disney voices and then I put myself on 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:45.000 tape and they had showed me KPS like you know, 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:49.400 her her picture, her description. Bob and Mark kind of 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.440 like helped coax me through it because I hadn't done 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:55.960 anything like that. Yeah, you came to Disney to our booth. Okay, 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.279 so you do remember, yeah? And then I just remember 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:05.039 though they used the pilot episode as a regular episode 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.400 later down the line. Right, yes, how did that all work? Well, 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:13.320 we did the pilot and then, but we had also 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.919 concurrently started the show. So by the time the pilot 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:21.080 came back, like we were reworking everything because like the 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.360 show evolves, and so I think when you do a pilot, 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.920 especially of an animated especially of an animated show, nine 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:32.239 months goes by before it comes back. Right, So everything 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:36.039 we had recorded twenty shows in that time, because we 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.880 had gone to series and they went out. They were 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.160 like boom boom, boom, boom boom, all the records happen, 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.200 and then you get this one back that's kind of 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:46.560 like off by itself. Well, and Disney was chopping it 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.760 up to use it to promo. So like this one 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:50.800 piece of dialogue I remember was not only from the 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:55.440 audition obviously, remember like trying to really get the job 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.440 with this whole little c net that me and Will's 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.640 character was doing. It was like, don't freak out, Kim, 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.800 And I was like, I'm not like that whole thing, Okay, 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:05.880 I do. I vaguely remember it was like the c 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:07.560 net that they kind of chopped up and then they 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.200 teased it to people. And I don't even know if 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.039 they had that song yet from Christina Milion. I don't 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:14.840 think that. I think do you were you a part 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.240 of any of the musical stuff. I was a part 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:22.320 with the musicals with you guys, but not for Christina. 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.920 And what List is talking about is the naked male rap. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.440 Well not just nake, but say the word. And John 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:33.080 DiMaggio is draging. Yes, we did the Christmas songs and 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.360 stuff like that. I remember John calling me after one 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.760 Christmas song and going, I can't believe you hit the harmony. 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.080 He literally said to because I can't believe he hit 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:41.760 the harmony because he knows I can't sing, so he's like, 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.599 I can't believe he hit the harmony. He was like, hey, thanks, 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.640 He's like he couldn't. The naked that was rapping and 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.000 singing or a little different though. That was my second 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:53.359 rap song and apparently award winning trap I did not 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:58.240 know about. Bob and Mark are the creators of Kimpossible. 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.760 Bob Schooling and Mark Mark mccorle. They accepted an award 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.960 for the Naked mole rap. I guess they didn't even go. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.440 They didn't. I think they found out about it after 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.400 it happened. I have a question for you with regards 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.360 the casting process, because one of the things that we 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.120 are talking about here on I hear voices. We're trying 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:20.720 to teach everybody kind of the entire process around making 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.960 an animated series or any sort of divorce or or 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.120 even if it's doing a commercial or doing a movie, 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.440 whatever it is, and so we are making sure we're 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.320 trying to hit everybody. So that's why we have Lisa on. 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.040 We're going to try to do as many directors as 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.320 we can as well, and Lisa's of course a director extraordinaire. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:39.080 But song a bit, you've been sung a bit. You 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.040 got an Emmy behind you, so you're you're've been sung 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:43.760 a little bit. And we've had some Emmy's on this 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.040 show now. Um, and apparently you got nominated for one, 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.560 which I had did know until a minute ago. I 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.080 had no idea. Apparently I'm the only one on Kimpossible 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:52.760 that was not nominated for an Emmy, which I just 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.320 found that Nancy was nominated. That's what I'm saying. She won. 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.800 I think I thought she want I don't think. Okay, Well, 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:00.640 either way, she won for barts In which is a 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.239 smaller cartoon character some people might have heard of. Um. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.480 But one of the things that's very different a lot 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.680 of the times in the animated world than it is 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.640 in the you know, on camera world, is in a 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.760 lot of these cases, the director also is in charge 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.000 of casting or is really helpful when it comes to 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.960 the casting process. Yes and no. Okay, now what do 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:25.120 you mean by certainly? Well, in the in the beginning 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:29.600 days like earlier, Uh, because I was wearing a lot 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.800 of hats, I was casting and directing, and there's shows 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.320 I cast from the beginning to the end. But it 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.439 depends on the studio. Like Nickelodeon has their own casting department, 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.520 Disney has their own casting department, Warner Brothers has their 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.800 own casting department, so they do. Did you get any say, 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.319 like especially as the show is getting bigger, Yeah, of course, 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.200 you know, Hey, I want to bring this person in. Yes, absolutely, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.920 But it used to be we would do that all 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:59.240 day long, and now they have, you know, which is 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.640 great for directors because you have a whole group of 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:07.119 people who only cast, so they're they're you know, dedicated 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.360 to your show, and they're dedicated to bringing you the 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.640 people and you can talk to them. You know, it's 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:18.120 a very collaborative. Um sport right. I feel really silly 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.200 because a lot of times so I would report and 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:24.440 obviously I was disconnected. Lisa was always so supportive in 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.600 trying to keep me sort of connected to the rest 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.760 of the cast that even if I was in New York, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.920 which I was for about a year. Um, she she 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.200 was like, guess who we got cast in this one? 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.319 Like we got the Taco Bell dog, like the voice 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:46.600 of the dog fast Yeah, no, no, no, you're thinking 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.679 of he was not, but that's not the Taco Bell. 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:53.559 That's right, Carlos. It was from and he was the 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:56.400 Taco he was. Okay, I'm not sure I ever knew that. No. 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:00.360 Ricardo Montalbon was senior senior senior, Yes, yes, and that 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:04.960 was phenomenal, like directing him like the icons, Debbie Reynolds, 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.199 we got to direct never had to meet any of 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:13.000 these people. That's the thing. Dakota Fanning played Baby Kim Possible. Yes, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:17.680 remember that like that? It was It was incredible and 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.240 she was such a fan of you. I mean, that's why. 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.640 I wish you guys could have because they were all 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.360 such big fans of the show. When we aged everybody 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:31.400 and young everybody. There were some huge actors on Kim 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.080 Possible and that really big guy who like had to 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.800 duck in when he played them the Giant, the Giant 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:43.439 guy from Yes Oh, Kevin Michael Richardson's good friend Michael 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.800 Clarke Duncan, who was the phenomenal actor and apparently according 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:53.320 to and he played Rufous. He played Rufus the Yeahs 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.800 and he was so into it, you know, like he 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.120 was like, I can't believe I get to do this. So, 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.600 you know, while we were in our later seasons, it 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:05.080 was easier because people we it was a known commodity. 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.520 People loved it. Dakota could not. She was like freaking out, 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:12.360 she was so excited about it. Um So Ricardo Montbarlmo 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:16.079 senior senior senior was it Nestor? Was he senior senior 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.280 junior who gave one of the so out of character 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.800 performances for an actor you've ever seen it? Just meaning 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.360 like you see Nestor on things like he was just 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.719 on the Morning Show, and he's in everything. He was 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.040 in Batman and he's in bed and everything, and then 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.280 you heard his performance and it was just so good 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.960 and talk about he had never sung before. And we 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:39.360 made him sing every boy band song relentlessly because that's 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.120 what Senior Senior Junior only ever wanted to be a 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.599 pop star. That was his goal. And what was the 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.200 name of the band? We made up town. That's an 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:58.600 actual that was an actual band, and we made that 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:03.880 poor man so nervous and he would sing and we're like, well, 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:07.240 the good news is Senior Senior Junior is a terrible singer. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.000 And and it was Adams nest Oh my god, he's dreaming. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:12.840 We called Nestor Carbonar in our house. He's the one 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:14.320 who always looks like he has I make up on. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:18.400 He's a really good looking dude. Adam Barry, Adam Berry, 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:23.600 Adam Barry. Oh, this guy, this guy, yeah, that guy. Yeah. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.840 Oh that's perfect, very good actor. Yeah. And he just 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.840 had that father. Father was so great. I don't know 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:38.840 to want to I want to suntan. Oh. It was crazy. 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:43.000 So Adam Barry was the music and he Nestor would 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.400 have to sing over and and he but he got 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.000 through it and he was It was perfect. It was perfect. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:53.880 We did a lot of actual music songs and what 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.040 Disney likes to put music in, Well, markam Bob like 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:00.800 to market? Bob do some things that are pretty remarkable, 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.160 Like I remember the episode where it's Mark and Bob 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:10.920 in the boat and it's and it's and they did 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.400 in the boat. And then there was one character that 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:19.640 Ron talks about named Mary gary Anu because Gary Marianna 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.040 was our did our pr um. So it's like they 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.840 would throw in these little nods that only we would get. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:27.920 You know, it's you know, nobody watching the show is 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:29.520 going to go, oh, that's Mark and Bob unless you 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.000 Mark and Bob. So that stuff was was really really cool. Now, 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:36.800 was there anybody that you really wanted to get on 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.120 the show that you tried and tried and tried and 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.280 it just didn't happen, Carrie Fisher, We tried and tried 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.720 and tried for which role it was? Was it a bunch? 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.199 Was it for I want to say it was a 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.680 it was a villain or I can't remember. Uh. And 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.600 everybody said they had their an in and everybody had 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.400 an inn and and no one could get to her. 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.439 And I want to say, I feel like we didn't 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.520 have uh, I feel like we had a lot of 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:10.640 male villains, especially the main ones. Amy. We had Melissa McCarthy. Yes, 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:15.200 that's right, that was me because I was a huge 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:20.000 Gilmore Girls fan, so I got before she exped I 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.040 made market and we got her, and we got a 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.120 bunch of people from what I mean. Also, one of 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.040 the best villains ever was she Go because she was 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.080 the one who was actually she was really the mastermind 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.160 of everything going on. And we had Carrie Kenny from 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:37.160 Reno nine on one and she played another villain in 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.720 a in season in a really early season. I never 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.680 got to meet any She's like one of my favorite 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:47.920 She's one of the unsungs, hysterical and the daughter of 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:52.640 a legendary voice over actor, Larry Kenny, the original Lionel 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.880 we brought onto teen Titans. Did you okay? Cool? Yeah, 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.320 he was the original Lione on thundercost He's so good, 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.320 so good, believe. But yeah, but I want to be 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.000 so happy about this. But the more I'm hearing these 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.200 amazing that I didn't get a chance to record what 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.200 I was gonna say, Did you record with Gary Cole 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.280 and Jean Smart? Did you actually get to Mom and 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.960 Dad Possible. I met Gary Cole a couple of times randomly, 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:14.480 and I remember at one point I walked up to 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.280 my saw him in a restaurant like years later, and 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:18.840 I walked up to him and I said, excuse me, 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.400 Mr Cole, my name's you know Will We we did 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:25.880 Kim Possible together. Oh, yes, you know I remember him Possible. Thanks. 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.480 I was like, okay, I'm gonna leave you now. Thanks. Thanks. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.840 So mellows he did that to me too. Calm is 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:38.520 very nice. Yeah, like you never shot, very like just 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.280 sit there. He was not rude. He was just very professional. 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.320 And he came in, did this thing and left. No, 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.880 I don't know, Ronald, he has this kind of way 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:52.280 about it. I mean, yeah, we brought him into Penguins 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.680 and he would come in and Jean Smart he was 0:15:54.800 --> 0:16:01.080 just my idol. I wasn't designing women super fans for me. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.840 It was just like, oh man, people that the rest 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:10.400 of the world. I was starting to see Jeans ridiculous, 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:16.160 insane and so good, and that they ended up airing 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.200 together so you could see the full of of how 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.600 talented that woman is. And again she came in completely 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.440 unassuming you had no idea and she just go do 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.080 whatever you want, just tell me what it is, and 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.880 she'd go a hundred miles. Debbie Reynolds was the same 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.320 way when she was doing Nana Possible. She's like, honey, 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:35.920 do you want me to do the kung fu moves? 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:40.320 I've been practicing. I kind of do do And we 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:46.160 were just like beside ourselves. That was DeBie Reynolds, not 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.520 you're in too, Carrie Fisher. Well, I think it was 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:53.440 like we got it came. I know it was. We 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.200 thought that was solid gold, and it just never happened, 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.960 and I don't know where it fell apart. Now I 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.720 have to ask you, this might be there might be 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:03.440 no good answer behind this. So if there isn't just 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:08.240 making is there a reason we never recorded with Nancy Well, 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:14.200 I think a lot depends on schedules, so everybody's schedule dictated. 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:19.280 She's very tried, very nicely. Now she didn't want to time. 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.960 Disney wasn't doing big on some We only did it 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:26.359 because you asked specific Oh is you it? I mean, 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.520 I hope I'm not speaking out of but you made 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.359 a request at one of the season breaks. I mean 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.040 when the story was I wasn't gonna come back for 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.520 season two. Oh my gosh. We we thought it was 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.560 too It is too because we renegotiated our feet. Okay, 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.800 See it wasn't had nothing, had really nothing to do 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:44.920 with that for me, like, I can't actually want this, 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:50.560 This is such impossible. It had absolutely nothing whatsoever to 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:52.280 do with the money for me. Swear to god, I 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.199 really didn't care about the money at all. It was 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.479 that I did. I was recording by myself and I 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.639 was just coming off a Batman where we there'd be 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.800 twenty people in the room and there's all this energy, 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:03.640 and then I was walking into this room by myself, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.239 and I just didn't like it. So I didn't make 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:06.800 a stink. I didn't say anything. All I said was 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.320 I think it would be better if you just got 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.080 someone else. I said, I just I don't think it's 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.639 for me. And then they called me and said, no, 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.320 we really want you back. I said, look, guys, it's 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.040 I'm not trying to I'm not. It's not well, we'll 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:17.880 talk about money. I'm like, I swear it's not about 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:23.520 the money at all, because you're very rich. But it 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.280 wasn't about that. I wanted to record with other actors. 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:31.520 That's amazing that I was at the time. That was 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.679 a very stylistic difference between Warner Brothers because I was 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.119 doing show directing, show and showdown over there and we 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.800 had fourteen people lined up, seven on one side, seven 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:43.680 on the other, and it's all raised in the middle 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.600 and me screaming bloody murder at everybody. It was phenomenal. 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.680 I was also doing you know, when we did Penguins, 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.600 we did ten people in the room loudhouse, when before 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:59.520 COVID we're doing twelve people in a room guards in 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:03.560 a straight lineup, guys all look like criminals. But literally 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:08.679 was a straight row secret Saturday something that I cast 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.000 beginning to end top to They let me do that. 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:19.400 That cast was secret was right after k Impossible. Yeah, 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:23.560 and it was actually a pretty great I was my goodness. 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.600 He played a dark soul I did. It was cool, 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.840 which was so different deep in his voice. Yeah, it 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.200 was even deeper than Batman. That's the deepest. Doyle was 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:35.480 the deepest character doing a character voice. I've never heard 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.080 of it. Ye, Doyle was just he was just down here, 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:39.960 like get out of your kid, and he was he 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.879 was an unhappy soul he was a mercenary. Yeah, and 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.360 so it was this complete departure, but it was so 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.359 it was so great, you know, to do that that turn, 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:53.159 because you know, I love working with actors, but also 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.080 like love switching it up like in that that show 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:01.360 Dietrich Babe played a character that never spoke like he 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:06.200 made he was an alien, and the way he did 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.560 it at all like that. No, he did it well, 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.920 did not sound like that, but it had so much 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:17.520 humanity and he never uttered a single actual word. He 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.520 could make a sound and we would almost be in 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:24.040 tears like it was. It was. He played this heart 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:28.360 like it was. And I directed him, I would fists. 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.119 I would direct him as if I was just like 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.560 a regularly. I wasn't telling him to make sounds. I'm like, 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.800 here's your emotion, here's what the scene is. And he 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:43.120 would like and then he'd like have his mind. They'd 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.439 leave his mic up because he just ad lib in 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.000 the middle of it all. And it was because it 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.919 weren't word didn't matter. It was genius. It really was 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.200 Corey Burton. That's the first time I'd worked with Corey Burton, 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:56.359 who is a legend. This is remember when you and 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.760 I were talking about originally doing this show. I told 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:00.359 you one of the reasons that I wanted to do 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:04.359 it was because, Yeah, this podcast is because of a 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.840 conversation I had with an actor named coryburn He was 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.600 at my house. He didn't doesn't like to come to 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.320 rap parties, but we had just finished ThunderCats and he came. 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:15.280 He came, and he was there late. Everybody had left 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:17.720 and it was just myself, Matt Mercer, and Corey Burton 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:19.800 left and I said, I was like, this is too 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.879 good an opportunity. And I said, Corey, I'm just curious, 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.200 where do you come up with your characters? And he said, 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.800 I have a shelf built in my mind and on 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.640 that shelf they're all the characters I need. And when 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.119 I need to, I reach into my mind. And I 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:35.159 remember I was telling you the story and I was like, 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:37.800 we need to talk to more voiceover actors to find 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.439 out where they're getting it because that story. And I 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:44.240 was like, it's nuts. Yeah, We've had such an amazing 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:47.240 time unlocking all of these journeys that people have taken 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:50.240 to find themselves an animation, whether it's through singing or 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:54.199 through like Kevin Conroy, so Kevin Conroy. We had a 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.040 great chat with him. I'm hoping that's not going to 0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.359 spoil anything, but I don't think it will. So here's 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.480 the fature this after Kevin, there you go. You own 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:05.680 the channel. Um. So with Kevin though, and this will 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.000 kind of swing back to the directing thing. Kevin was 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:11.639 approaching things in a much more like realistic, grounded approach, 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:14.000 which is what made Batman so special. And what I 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.959 think what he said was it changed like the that 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.199