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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bills Light. You're no snooze button allowed.

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Speaker 1: Version of one Bills Live where we dive headfirst into

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Speaker 1: everything Bills and put a bow on it. In about

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Speaker 1: forty minutes, Steve and I address the idea of trading

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Speaker 1: late draft capital for future picks. I see what Steve

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Speaker 1: knows about pick sixty one history in the numbers game,

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Speaker 1: and Dane Brugler breaks down edge rushers and corners that

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Speaker 1: could be in range for the Bills in rounds one

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Speaker 1: and round two. Let's get on the clock at a

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Speaker 1: Steve tester who has been all over the fields. Kind

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Speaker 1: of unique. He was kind of a dual role player

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Speaker 1: for you. Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even in

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Speaker 1: the stratosphere of normalcy. Thank you for joining us here

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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Light, available on all your podcast platforms

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Speaker 1: and on YouTube where you can watch and listen with

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Speaker 1: the draft less than a week away. Steve and I

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Speaker 1: have somehow found another angle to discuss that has yet

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Speaker 1: to be addressed, and it deals with Buffalo's roster as

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Speaker 1: it's currently constituted, and it builds off a big to

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Speaker 1: do item that is coming down the pike. Buffalo has

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Speaker 1: a pretty solid roster as we know Steve pre draft,

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Speaker 1: and while welcoming some top end talent from this year's

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Speaker 1: draft pool is necessary and helpful, what about some of

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Speaker 1: the team's Day three draft capital. Do they really need

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Speaker 1: both fives, their sixth, and their seventh this year? What

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Speaker 1: do you think? Well, you never know, because you look

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Speaker 1: down at the history of it. It's hard to find

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Speaker 1: have also found starters as rookie free agents even below

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Speaker 1: all on what's there for you to take with that capital.

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Speaker 1: What do you get in return if you get a

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Speaker 1: higher pick perhaps next year. We've talked about the fact

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Speaker 1: that next year is a year where you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to extend Josh Allen, You're gonna have to extend Tremaine Edmonds,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna need cap space. Rookies helped with cap space,

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Speaker 1: and you get draft picks, you're gonna have some really

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Speaker 1: pick from another pool of pilayers much similar to the

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Speaker 1: one this year. This is a roster that's much more

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Speaker 1: fully formed than any we've had in what two decades?

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Speaker 1: This is a This is the team that can win

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard for a fifth, sixth, or seventh

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Speaker 1: could come in and contribute on special teams, okay, but

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Speaker 1: getting even on the fifty three is going to be

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Speaker 1: to be good enough. There's another element at play here

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Speaker 1: too that I'm not sure too many people are aware

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Speaker 1: of with respect to this year's draft pool, and that

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Speaker 1: is the following Steve. The NCAA, because of the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: gave college players an extra year of college eligibility if

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Speaker 1: they chose to make use of it. A lot of

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to share it with our listeners. In

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Speaker 1: this year's draft pool, there are six hundred fifty seven

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Speaker 1: eligible players to be drafted. That might sound like a

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Speaker 1: you know how many eligible draft players there were? I

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Speaker 1: will say twelve hundred nineteen hundred and thirty two. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Now we all know nineteen hundred thirty two players are

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Speaker 1: They are going to be saying, hey, you want my

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Speaker 1: It's really gonna be true this year as well. They're

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Speaker 1: We also know there could be an extension for Tremaine Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: So is extra draft capital in twenty twenty two probably

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Speaker 1: December is going to be vastly different. The players that

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Speaker 1: gonna look very different in eight months. So it's you

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Speaker 1: and their development or deterioration. Set the set the planet themselves.

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Speaker 1: They set the players, set the plan, and you got

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Speaker 1: to our guests this week. It is the architect of

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Speaker 1: how they interact with your with your coaches and people

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Speaker 1: are on the football buildings. So the character the medical

430
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: two very important parts of the evaluation process. We have

431
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: a lot of that information, you know, especially teams with

432
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: their resources, but it's just different than past years. So

433
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: to say that maybe they'd be a little bit more

434
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: conservative this year, I think that's a fair statement. Well,

435
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: you put in the work to put together your seven

436
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: round mock draft. I'm gonna ask you off the top,

437
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: give us your take on which positions on this draft

438
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: board are rich and which ones are scarce. Well, the

439
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: scarce is easy. That's defensive tackle. It is one of

440
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: the worst defensive tackle classes we've seen in a long time.

441
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: We're going to see a few guys go early, Christian

442
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: Barmore of Alabama and Levi Ownzerik from washing They'll probably

443
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: be top fifty picks, but then there's a big gap

444
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: after that and a few players that you like maybe

445
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: sneak in the top one hundred, but the depth just

446
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: isn't there. You're not if you want to defensive tackle,

447
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: you better get your guy early because you're not going

448
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: to be able to wait on the flip side. You

449
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: look at wide receiver, it's another strong class. You look

450
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: at pass rusher. We don't have that top ten pass

451
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: rusher this year, or that Chase Young or that Miles

452
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: Garrett that no doubt about it, top five pick. But

453
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: it's once you get to the back half a round

454
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: one and into the second round, it's a pretty strong

455
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: group and there's a lot of interesting, yet flawed pass

456
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: rushers that I think, you know, Buffalo is right in

457
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: the mix with some of those guys. I think. You

458
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: look at corner it's another strong group at cornerback, and

459
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: I think you have to mention a quarterback just because

460
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: we're gonna set some quarterback records probably this year. If

461
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: we see quarterbacks go one, two, three, four, first time

462
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: that's ever happened. If we have five quarterbacks going in

463
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: the top ten, that would be the first time that

464
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: has ever happened. And if we have at least seven

465
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: orderbacks go in the first two rounds, that's something else

466
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: that has never happened before that has at least a

467
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: decent chance of happening. In this draft, So quarterback, pass rusher, cornerback,

468
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and then offensive tack will as well. It's

469
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: worth mentioning offensive tackle, really offensive line as a whole.

470
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: It's a really strong offensive line group. So Dane taking

471
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: the edge rusher situation a step further here. You know,

472
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: you mentioned that the Bills in terms of where they're picking,

473
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: they'll be in the range presumably to have some viable

474
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: choices at that position. And we know with Jerry Hughes

475
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: in the final year of his contract, Mario Addison with

476
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 1: avoidable year in twenty twenty two on his deal, they

477
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: got to kind of have a little bit of an

478
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: influx of youth there to pair with aj Epenessa from

479
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: last year. But as you mentioned, all these guys have

480
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: some flaws. So who do you feel the best about

481
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: down in that range? You know you're talking, well, I

482
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe Jalen Phillips may not be near now,

483
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: but here's a guy that walked away from football due

484
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: to concuss what's his commitment to the game. Then you've

485
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: got Greg Rust who opted out last year and didn't

486
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: look all that good at his Pro day. And then

487
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: you've got a guy like Joe Tryon, and I think

488
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: he didn't get a lot of playing time this year.

489
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: So if you've got three guys like that to choose

490
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: from our any one of those guys and Jason Away,

491
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: whose production isn't there even though his measurables are off

492
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: the chart, So maybe just give me your assessment of

493
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: those four in particular, and if there are guys you'd

494
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: shy away from more than another in that group. Yeah,

495
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: and that's that's a great you know, four names right there,

496
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: they're really intriguing and kind of like we set it

497
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: up interesting yet flawed, And with Jason Jason Away, to me,

498
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: it might be the most interesting and one of the

499
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: most interesting the entire draft. He's the freakiest of the freaks.

500
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Uh six five, two hundred and sixty pounds. We're in

501
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: a four three seven and a forty yard dash thirty

502
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: nine and a a half inch vert under seven seconds in

503
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: the three film and you see that on film. It's

504
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: he's not just a great tester. You see that on

505
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: the fuel and when you watch him, yeah, he didn't

506
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: have any sacks, but you know, throwing the Indiana tape

507
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: and he is consistently getting to the backfield he is

508
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 1: consistently affecting what the quarterback is doing and disrupting that

509
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: rhythm of the offense. So, you know, the obviously you

510
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: want your quarter or your pass rusher to get to

511
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback and put up big sack numbers. But what

512
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: is the main goal of a pass rusher. That's to

513
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: disrupt the quarterback and affect what they're doing. And I

514
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: think Jason Oway can do that even though he's going

515
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: to be you know, I'm sure if Jason Oway were

516
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: to be the pick, you're gonna hear a lot of

517
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: fans Saale zero sacks, so they blew it. He is

518
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: a really really good player and I think he'll be

519
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: a better pro than college player. Jaylen Phillips is a

520
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: tough one just because of the concussion history and what

521
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: that means for his future. I think if you're going

522
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: to go just based on on the field, he's a

523
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: top ten to twelve pick in this draft. You see

524
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: flashes that reminds you of a Nick Bosa because he

525
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: understands how to use his hands. He has a rush

526
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: plan with how he's going to get to the quarterback

527
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: and break down the rhythm. A blocker he can win

528
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: with power, he can win with quickness. There's a lot

529
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: to like about Jalen Phillips as as a talent, but

530
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: when you factor in that, yeah, he used CLA told him, hey,

531
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: you we can't clear you. You need to medically retire

532
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: after three diagnosed concussions. That's obviously not something you just

533
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: you know overlook that that's something that has to go

534
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: into your final process. The medical history is along with

535
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: him and just making sure that you're comfortable with that.

536
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: His will say as teammate at Miami, but he actually

537
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: never played with them because Gregory Rousseau opted out of

538
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: this past year. Rosseau is really interesting because basically one

539
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: year of production, one year of tape six six and

540
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: a half, two hundred and sixty six pounds. He was

541
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: a safety and wide receiver most of his life up

542
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: until he grew out of those positions, moved to the

543
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: defensive line as a senior in high school, and he

544
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: missed his first year at Miami, was hurt. His second year.

545
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: He was second in the FBS behind only Chase Young

546
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: in sacks. So you love the production that he put up,

547
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: but then he opts out this past year and we're

548
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: kind of left with some questions about all right, you know,

549
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: we love the size, we love the length. He's pretty

550
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: good get off, but he's not a bendy rusher. And

551
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: in fact, a lot of his production came when he

552
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: reduced inside over the A gap and he was able

553
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: to use that that quick first step and use that

554
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: length to beat up on some interior blockers. So there's

555
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: still a lot of questions with Rossau in terms of

556
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: patching together as Rush moves and Kenny, you know, does

557
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: he have the counters necessary to win in different ways?

558
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: So I would not be surprised at all of Rossau

559
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: is available for the bills there in that late first

560
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: round or even if you would fall to the second

561
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: round and then Joe try and just to finish out,

562
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: you know that pass rushers another opt out, but a

563
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: guy that he just looks like an action figure six five,

564
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: two sixty, that's what you wanted to look like. Four

565
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: six five and the forty yard dash. Actually, his testing

566
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: numbers are very, very similar to Marcus Davenport, who was

567
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: a top fifteen pick three years ago for the Saints.

568
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a similar type of projection where there's

569
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: a lot of raw traits and you're thinking about, Okay,

570
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: what can he be for us? You know, a year

571
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: from now, two years from now, there's a lot of

572
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: things that you can work with with him, a lot

573
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: of foundation traits that you want at the position. One

574
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: more thing with respect to edge rushers, Dane, and that

575
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: deals with skill set. Here with more and more quarterbacks

576
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: who can make plays off script, extend plays, how much

577
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: more of a premium do you think there is on

578
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: pass rushers who are quote unquote long chase players and

579
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: have change of direction agility, Because it seems like more

580
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: and more you're going to need that in your edge

581
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: rushers if a play goes six or seven seconds because

582
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks running all over the yard, no question about it.

583
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: And that's where the three cone drill comes into play,

584
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: which really helps gauge a players redirection skills. And then

585
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: when you watch the tape, Okay, does he have the motor?

586
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: Is he a guy that you know, once he misses

587
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: in the pocket he kind of shuts it down a

588
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: little bit, or is he continuing to hit the gas

589
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: and chase and make place from the backside. I think

590
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: this draft has a few of those guys at pass

591
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: rushers who really stand out for their motor. You know,

592
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: Peyton Turner from Houston's one of those guys. He'd be

593
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: a second round option. You look at Joseph Osai at Texas,

594
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: relentless pursuit player. He never shuts it down. He flips

595
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: that switch when he's on the field, and he doesn't

596
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: know how to turn it off, and so there are

597
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: some questions about him just in terms of being a

598
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: consistent pass rusher. There are zero questions about his effort.

599
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: And that's where what you really like about Osai and

600
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: maybe considering him at some point in the second round.

601
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: So that is definitely part of the process when you're

602
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: looking at these pass rushers. One of the other positions

603
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: that Bills fans and this roster seems to be lacking,

604
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: is a cornerback. Number two. You get down to the

605
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: thirtieth pick, or perhaps a spot where the thirtieth pick

606
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: could be traded for the thirty fourth or thirty sixth

607
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: pick somewhere in there to get into the second round,

608
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 1: pick up another pick. What kind of cornerbacks are we

609
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: looking at the bottom of the first round, or maybe

610
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: the bottom of the first round, maybe a couple of

611
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: picks ahead of thirty. So if the Bill's got a

612
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: guy they really liked, they jump up to twenty five

613
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: or twenty six. What range of guy are we looking

614
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: at there? And how many corners are going to be

615
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: gone before that? Well, we think Patrick Curtan out of

616
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: Alabama and JC Horn South Carolina, both those two players

617
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: should be off the board somewhere in the top fifteen

618
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: to sixteen picks. And then where does Greg Newsom go?

619
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: The Northwestern corner who six foot, one hundred ninety two pounds,

620
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, a really good athlete, he's a route magnet,

621
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: stays attached down the field. He's a guy that has

622
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: missed at least three games each of the last three years.

623
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: That's kind of the issue with him in terms of okay,

624
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: nothing major, but these soft tissue injuries that adds up,

625
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: and we want guys that can be physical, be aggressive,

626
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: hold up to stay on the field. So Greg Newsom

627
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 1: is not going to be for everybody. Could he be

628
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: in the mix there? Because at a certain point in

629
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: the first round the value is just tremendous, and so

630
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: I think Greg Newsom is a possibility for maybe, you know,

631
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: if you want to move up a few spots. After that,

632
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: it gets really interesting. Caleb Farley Virginia Tech. You know

633
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: he you know we talked about how teams would be

634
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: more conservative. Caleb Farley is tough to figure out where

635
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: he's going to go because I think based on just talent,

636
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: he's in the top ten. He might be the most

637
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: talented defensive player in this draft. A former high school

638
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: quarterback goes to Virginia Tech as a wide receiver, moves

639
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: the corner and two, has an eighteen, a position he

640
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: never played before, and he had two picks in his

641
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 1: first career game and the season opener against Florida State.

642
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: You watch the speed, especially for a guy that size.

643
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: He's sober six two thirty three and a half inch arms.

644
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean he has the arm length that makes a

645
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: lot of offensive lineman jealous. Speed is outstanding. The burst

646
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: is different, you know, you don't see guys with that

647
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: type of bursts very often. And then just the natural

648
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: ball instincts that he shows. So based if he has

649
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: a clean bill of health, we're looking at KYLEB. Farley's

650
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: a top ten pick. Easy you factor in he had

651
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: an acl and two when he first arrives down the

652
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: seventeen and then two back procedures over the last three years,

653
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: including most recently one in March, that you know he

654
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: should be full recovered and be back on the field

655
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: at some point during training camp, but you have to

656
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: factor in, okay, long term, what does that mean? Is

657
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: it more likely to flare up? Is there something that's

658
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: going to be a long term problem. That's where the

659
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: medical information really comes into play, and each team doctor

660
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: is going to be a little different, Each team's appetite

661
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: for risks will be a little different. So Caleb Farley

662
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: is really a tough guy to figure out just in

663
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: terms of where he's going to go. He could go seventeen,

664
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: he could follow the second round. I wouldn't be surprised

665
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: that either one of those outcomes, just because the medical

666
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: information will be digested differently by each team and each

667
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, with how they're going to set up their

668
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: roster after those four players, It'll get really interesting because

669
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot there's several round two corners

670
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: that it's kind of similar to that pass rush conversation

671
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: where those round two corners are really talented yet flawed

672
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: in a certain way. You know, you look at two

673
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: Georgia corners with Eric Stokes and Tyson Campbell. Tyson Campbell

674
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: six ninety three, four three athlete, that's how you draw

675
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: it up. That's what you want your corners to look like.

676
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what SEC quarterbacks they were not

677
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: afraid to throw at him last year on film, and

678
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: a part of that is he just couldn't find a football.

679
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: He's in phase, he's in position, but he can't get

680
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: his head turned around and he can't use his length

681
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: to disrupt the pass. And so that's a big issue

682
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: with him. But again, is that something that's learned. Is

683
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: that something he can get better at, maybe in some

684
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: respect in some areas, But that's where the opinions on

685
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: a Tyson Campbell are very different. Kelvin Joseph At of

686
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: Kentucky five eleven and a half hundred and ninety seven pounds,

687
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: a four three athlete. You know, he's got some concerns

688
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: off the field that teams need to sort through. So

689
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: all these corners are really talented and all deserving of

690
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: top fifty consideration, but you look at him and there's

691
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: maybe one or two things that you point to, and

692
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: that's where each team is going to look at it

693
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: a little differently in terms of breaking down the weaknesses

694
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: and where they feel comfortable drafting each player. Yeah, and

695
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: I think Caleb Farley might be the most fascinating player

696
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: in this entire draft, not only because of the ability

697
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: brings to the table as you mentioned Dane, but he

698
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: pretty much runs the gamut of all the deficiencies that

699
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: the scouting community has. This year, he opted out, and

700
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: for an understandable reason. He lost a parent to cancer,

701
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: I believe, and didn't want to lose another one due

702
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: to a COVID infection. So I get the opt out.

703
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: I understand that. But he's got medical and he's got

704
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: a limited body of work. I mean, he's got the

705
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: trifecta there, so it's really going to be fascinating to

706
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: see how much he slides. But he tests off the chart,

707
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean that. You well, we didn't. We

708
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to see his exact testing numbers

709
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: because of that injury, which is unfortunate because I think

710
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: he absolutely would have blown it up. But no, you're right,

711
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know he the no character concerns,

712
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: but besides that, you know there there everything else is

713
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: a worry. But if you told me that in two

714
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: years he's one of the top ten corners in the league.

715
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: I could buy it. I could see a path to

716
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: get to that point, and so high risk, high reward

717
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: this guy, he's the poster player for that. Yeah, and

718
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: just one more question on corners here, Dane, because we

719
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: know you said all of those guys that you just

720
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: mentioned could be top fifty picks. We know the Bills

721
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: in the second round aren't in the top fifty. They

722
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: pick at sixty one. I know you mock them Tyson Campbell,

723
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: and that would be a nice option to have that

724
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: lat and round two. But are there other names that

725
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: figure to be closer to the bottom of round two

726
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: that you think would be in play for the Bills.

727
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: I really like Paulson Adebo's tape, but some people have

728
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: him in the top around three. But he just looks

729
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: like that long run support corner that the Bills like

730
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: in their system. Just your thoughts on him and anybody

731
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: else that you think could be there at the bottom

732
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: around two at corner. Yeah, it'll be really interesting to

733
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: see how early these corners go because there's so many

734
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: of them that one or two of them is going

735
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: to slip a little bit, you know, to the end

736
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: of round two, maybe even into round three. It's certainly

737
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: possible just because of the sure volume of corners that

738
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: we have this year. And that's the second round mix.

739
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: You know, if Yatu Melifon was another one, but with

740
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: posted Adibo, another opt out did not play this year.

741
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, if you want a player

742
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: that looks the part and has ball production, he's your guy.

743
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: Thirty eight passes defended in two years at Stanford, eight interceptions,

744
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: sixty one one hundred ninety eight pounds, ran a four

745
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: four four and the forty yard dash six sixty nine

746
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: in the three cone, which is a fantastic time for anybody,

747
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: let alone a guy that's sixty one two hundred pounds.

748
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: So with posting Adbo, now I don't think his tape

749
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: is as consistent or as you know, as glowing maybe

750
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: as the testing numbers and you know, the production that

751
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: he's had, because once he gets beat, it's tough for

752
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: him to recover. You know, you could throw on the

753
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: tape against ucf and who has a nineteen and gave

754
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: Davis a guy you guys know, well a couple of

755
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: those double moves. Posted Adibo was left kind of grabbing

756
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: an air and it really had no answer for Gave Davis,

757
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: who was a good player. So you know, no shame

758
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: in you know, losing some reps to him. But that's

759
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: kind of the rub with the debo is he's a

760
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: little leggy, a little upright, and when he does have

761
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: those false steps, it's really tough for him to recover.

762
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: But you want to bet on a guy with the size,

763
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: the foot, agility, you know, those are the traits that

764
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: you want. He's a smart guy. Confidence is there. So

765
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot going for a debo that at this

766
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: late part of round two, even in the round three,

767
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable rolling the dice on a talent like that.

768
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: One last one from me, Danan, thanks for being with us.

769
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: Where do the top couple of running backs go? How

770
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: early do they get picked in this draft? You know

771
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: eight at n Naji Harris and Williams? Is that right?

772
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: William Javonta Williams out of North Carolina? Right? And I

773
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: think that you look at Steelers at twenty four, everything

774
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: points to them and Najie Harris as being a just

775
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: a logical fit. You look at uh, the Steelers and

776
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: really having a small window here with Ben as the

777
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: quarterback and really going for it. How much Nage Harris

778
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: a guy that's ready to step in right now and

779
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: help an NFL offense, how much that would help, especially

780
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: with his ability out of the back as a pass catcher.

781
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: I think that fits Pittsburgh. It almost makes too much

782
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: sense that it won't happen at twenty four. And then

783
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: after that, I'll tell you what, I'd be surprised if

784
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: we had another running back in the first round. It's

785
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: always possible. We've seen surprises before. I think it's more

786
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: likely we see a Travis Etn Javonte Williams maybe in

787
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: that second round, that early second round. You look at

788
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: the Falcons picking in the early second round, they need

789
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: help at running back. The Miami Dolphins another one. I

790
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: think that would be a logical landing spot for either

791
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: Etn or a Javonte Williams to come in and you

792
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: know be you know, kind of bell cow that they've

793
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: been looking for. Etn's more of your slasher, the home

794
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: run hitter speed. Jontay Williams is a guy that just

795
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: wants to break tackles. H you know, a former high

796
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: school linebacker moved to running back late his ability. He's

797
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: kind of like a compact version of Leonard Fournette, and

798
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: his ability to break tackles is really uncanny. So I

799
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: think Javontay Williams is definitely well liked with teams and

800
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: would not be surprised to see all three going to

801
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: top forty, although I don't know that all three are

802
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: going to get the first round and then the last one.

803
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: For me, Jane, I know everybody loves sleepers. You unveiled

804
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: your list of sleepers recently on the Athletics, So why

805
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: don't you just pass along some of those lesser known

806
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: names that you know fans might be interested in come

807
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: day three when they probably don't recognize one guy from

808
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: the next. Well, yeah, I encourage people to check out

809
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: the article on the Athletic. I go through ten names

810
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: that were not combine invites. You know, we didn't have

811
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: to combine this year, but we still had to combine list.

812
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: But my favorite guy on that list Jacob Harris at

813
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: a UCF love the background, former soccer player who decided

814
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: to play football as a senior in high school just

815
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: to you know, be with his buddies and have fun.

816
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: And he got that itch, you know, he goes to

817
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: Florida Gulf Coast to play soccer. After a week, he says,

818
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: I want to play football. Walks on a Western Kentucky,

819
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: but he get a little homesick, so he walks on

820
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: at UCF and gets better and better as the years

821
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: went on. This past year as a tight ends slash

822
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: big wide receiver, big slot had eight touchdowns and you

823
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: saw him. It started to really the light bulb really

824
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: kind of illuminate for him. And what you really like

825
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: about Jacob Harris is he can also play special teams.

826
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: He's six five two twenty four four oh athlete, six

827
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: five in a three cone and he could play special

828
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: teams coverages. He had double digit tackles in college. So

829
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: you draft him fourth or fifth round. And while you're

830
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: developing him as that big slot receiver as you know,

831
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: maybe a guy that could develop into a tight end,

832
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna make plays for you on special teams. So

833
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna earn that roster spot. So every year we've got,

834
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, sleepers that come through and maybe surprise us,

835
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: and this year is no difference. So hopefully people go

836
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: check out that article. Yeah, I saw I see him

837
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: as a receiver. I mean, I know he's a willing blocker,

838
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: but he's I mean, he is rail. He looks like

839
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: a rail out there with his height and his length.

840
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I just can't see him lining up in line.

841
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean maybe he gets in the way as somebody,

842
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think he's big slot all the way

843
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. Dane. One more thing, how people

844
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: can get the beast? How do they get their hands

845
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: on that? All you need is an athletic subscription and

846
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: it's included as part of that, and I think right

847
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: there makes the athletic worth it. With the draft guide, UM,

848
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: if you like the NFL draft at all, I promise

849
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: you zero percent chance you'll be disappointed. Um, if you

850
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: like details, uh, you know all the all the NFL

851
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: verified Pro day data is in there, all the background information,

852
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: all the metrics. That's the production and of course the analysis.

853
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: So um over four hundred reports. So this is the

854
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: thing you want at your at your side during draft weekend. Um,

855
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: as the picks are coming off the board. UM, I

856
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: promise you zero percent chance you'll be disappointed with it. Yeah,

857
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't do a draft without it. Two

858
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven pages, of brilliance this year, Dane.

859
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: Thanks man, appreciate you, good luck, and enjoy this draft.

860
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: I know it's kind of a downer when it's finally

861
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: over after all the work that goes into it, but man,

862
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you we appreciate it. Well. I can't wait

863
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: to see my kids again and my family and all that,

864
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: so you know I'll be looking forward to all. Thanks guys.

865
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: All right, Steve, as we close out this episode of

866
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: One Bill's Light, we have a new exercise that we

867
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: like to call my best guests. As we know, Steve,

868
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: the Bills have three picks on day one and day

869
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: two of the draft at thirty sixty one and ninety three.

870
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: With your best guess, what do you think the three

871
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: position groups are that are addressed with those first three selections,

872
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: we just had you play the numbers. Okay, the position

873
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: groups are cornerback, edge, rusher, offensive line. That's your best guess. Okay,

874
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm kind of wondering if there's going to be a

875
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: wild card in here somewhere. That's the only thing that

876
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: is giving me pause. I am going to say my

877
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: best guess is edge, rusher, corner, but there is I

878
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Man, there's something. There's something

879
00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: that's that's just telling me for some reason, and I

880
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: have no rhyme or reason for this whatsoever, but I

881
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be something that's gonna be a little

882
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: wacky and off the board. So, just for lack of

883
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: a better position to pick, I am going to say safety.

884
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but it's just something in the

885
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: back of my mind. So I'm gonna say corner edge

886
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: rusher's safety instead of old lot. I want an alignment

887
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: because I think they're gonna need one. Yeah, so I

888
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: think that could very well happen. But for some reason,

889
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: I see them pulling a surprise on everybody, And I'll

890
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: just say safety because of the value that's there in

891
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: rounds two and three at that position. Yeah, and safety.

892
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a channel? And there's been a

893
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: big hubbub around after the Brandon being pressor for the

894
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: draft that you know, they had a big conversation about

895
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: running backs at another for the third year in a row,

896
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: running back into the round depending on who falls. I mean, yeah,

897
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: none of those got none of the three running backs

898
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: that everybody's looking at at n Naji Harris and Williams.

899
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: None of those guys are gonna be there at whatever

900
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: ninety three. But I know this, It never ceases to

901
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: amaze me that when the Bills do grab guys sign

902
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: free agents from the NFL, you know, like even free agency,

903
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: in the first of free agency or in the draft,

904
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: it never ceased to amaze me they pull a guy

905
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: that I didn't know about that turns out to be

906
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, and there's some nice safeties there in

907
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: that second third round rage that's kind of the sweet

908
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: spot for safeties, and I don't know, just for some reason,

909
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: end to day two, I could see him pick ninety three.

910
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: You know that Syracuse kid that I like a lot,

911
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: Andre cisco a kid is a ballhawk man, he is

912
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: a player. I like him a lot. And there's some

913
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: other safeties that I think will be available there at

914
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: the end of round three. So that's the only reason

915
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: I think that could factor into the equation per your

916
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: running back argument in round one. I'm not saying the

917
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: Bills wouldn't consider a running back, especially if some like

918
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: Etn is still on the board at thirty, but I

919
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: think the only way they put put his name on

920
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: the card is if the value at edge rusher is

921
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: gone and the value at corner is gone. If their

922
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: board is completely wiped out at those two positions, then

923
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: I could see that being a real possibility. But absent

924
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: that scenario, I think they address one of their more

925
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 1: and here's why. Because running back, you have two players

926
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: still on their rookie contracts at the position, and you

927
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: have a veteran who is a home run threat in

928
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: Matt Breda on the roster. At defensive line, particularly edge,

929
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: You've got a thirty three year old Jerry Hughes in

930
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: the last year of his contract. You've got Mario Addison

931
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: age thirty four season, last year of his contract with

932
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: avoidable year left, and there's not a ton behind them.

933
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: It's Daryl Johnson and aj Epenesa, right, and some reserve

934
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: future free agents might love some other guy, but you

935
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: need a stone cold killer in the pipeline there. So

936
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: to me, that overrides anything that you feel about running

937
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: back in round one, and the edge rush value should

938
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: be there at thirty for them to take somebody. I

939
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: would submit this. I think the team is in a

940
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: position a unique say, for instance, I'll take it the

941
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: corner position where they can look at a guy, and

942
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: like the two guys the two corners from Georgia, Tyson Campbell,

943
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: Eric Stokes, right, really fast, really athletic kids, but you

944
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: know it's got some wartz on their game. Either you

945
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: name whatever it is you want or any other position.

946
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: The Bills could say and get to know these guys

947
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: and overthrow the course of their evaluation, think that see

948
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: something in them that says this is a guy that's

949
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a good career because he's committed to being better.

950
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,479
Speaker 1: And Brandon being said in his draft press conference, he's listen,

951
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: we're looking long term rather than short term. So if

952
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: they think they've got a guy with some skills, with

953
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: some ability, who's the right, DNA take him a little

954
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: higher than maybe you should have, knowing that in six

955
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: months he's with your coaching and your culture, he's going

956
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: to be vastly different than he is now. So that

957
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: tells me that could be either an edge rusher like

958
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: that or a corner like that, a guy who when

959
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: they draft him, it'll be a little bit of a

960
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: reach or a snooze and be like, I don't know,

961
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: he tested well, but you know he doesn't have the

962
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: great tape. He doesn't have this and the and the

963
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: Bills will believe that their culture and this kid's inner

964
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: workings will take him to another level. I could see

965
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: that happening in this draft big time because they don't

966
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: need they're not in a big hurry for these guys

967
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: to come in and make way bright on the field

968
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: and play fifty snatch. So if they got a guy

969
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: with some physical tools, like one of the edge rushers

970
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: we've seen, try On Oway is a great example. Try

971
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: On is a great example. They've got some guys in

972
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: the Russo kid who people are knocking right right, The

973
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: kid that played in Miami was Fility. Yeah, there's a

974
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: ton of guys like that, and think about Faobada is

975
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: exactly that the guy they signed. So they're you know,

976
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: they think long term because they really believe and it

977
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: is their culture to make these guys better every day. Yep.

978
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: So so that's the that's the crucial element of the

979
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: whole thing, and I think that is gonna be the

980
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: deciding factor when they get to this draft. How good

981
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: can this guy get? Not how good he is today?

982
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: For our next my best guests, we pose the following.

983
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: Going into the draft, the Bills have seven total picks.

984
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: How many picks do they end up with in the

985
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: form of drafted players coming out of it? Do they

986
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: have seven when the draft's over or no? I say no.

987
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: I say no as well. How many of you think

988
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: they come out with five? I was gonna say five too.

989
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: I think they only have five players drafted. I think

990
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: they part ways with a couple. I think the number

991
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: could be even as low as four. Their last five

992
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: draft picks together add up to about one hundred and

993
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: ninety points. And that's enough to get you. Yeah, it's nothing,

994
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: it's nothing. It's nothing that'll get you. It's a pittance

995
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: as right. That is the equivalent of a mid no

996
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: bottom third third round pick like pick eighty. Yeah, that's

997
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: that's what that equals. You know, they could they could throw,

998
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: but that includes their own pick at ninety three. This

999
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: is gonna be the challenge. But they could take all

1000
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: those picks at ninety three and the black binding fine

1001
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: and jump up ten spots. Yeah, this is this is

1002
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: the challenge for Brandon being this year. He's gonna be

1003
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 1: trying to get rid of Day three picks, so too

1004
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: is everybody else's right, who's gonna be able to pull it? Off.

1005
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the big question that'll do it for

1006
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: this edition of One Bill's Life. Don't forget to subscribe

1007
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: so you know whenever a new episode drops. And remember

1008
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: when there isn't enough time for One Bills Live, there's

1009
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: always enough time for One Bill's Life. For Steve Tasker,

1010
00:52:45,719 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm Chris Brown. Enjoy the draft. Everybody zero,