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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. Mark Vandermair and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you. We've got a lot to get to tonight, because, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've had the draft. We had days of draft talk

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Speaker 1: leading up to and afterwards, and that doesn't mean we're

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Speaker 1: going to put that to bed. But it's been a

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Speaker 1: lot happening around the National Football League that we have

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Speaker 1: to get to, including but not limited to your Texans

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Speaker 1: hard at work as they are in week three of

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Speaker 1: this off season program. And Johnny, it's nice to see

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Speaker 1: the guys heading out to the practice field. You know

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Speaker 1: they're working out there. I was riding the elevator up

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Speaker 1: were done. They were walking back, and it just feels

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Speaker 1: like football practice. We're gonna be out there in a

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Speaker 1: few weeks. They can't go full, they can't go against

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Speaker 1: each other yet, but they're doing work on the field.

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Speaker 2: I know the coaches absolutely loved this part as well.

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Speaker 2: Spring practice, baby, that's what I mean. It's a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's kind of an extended spring practice and

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Speaker 3: you won't hit like you can in college, but that's

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Speaker 3: what it is. Draft is over in a little while,

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Speaker 3: we'll see the rookies end up with the guys out

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Speaker 3: there at practice, OTA's mini camp, whatever you want to

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Speaker 3: call it, and that'll be fun to kind of see

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Speaker 3: all the pieces out there together. Again, it's a voluntary

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Speaker 3: The conditioning part is voluntary, and then the mini camps

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Speaker 3: are mandatory, so I don't know that they'll have everybody

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Speaker 3: start fitting in, which would be kind of fun. But

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Speaker 3: it's it just reminds you football is coming. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I guess you could say football never left. I guess

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Speaker 3: it feels that way a little bit this building, because

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Speaker 3: we're so used to seeing the guys and seeing the

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Speaker 3: coaches all the time, and then they get into draft

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Speaker 3: mode and then they go hunker down in our offices

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Speaker 3: until it's dark thirty watching the film, so you get

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Speaker 3: to see them a little bit more. There's practicing and

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Speaker 3: games and things like that. So I'm just I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's April thirtieth, it's time to go.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get to the desert and get through it.

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Speaker 3: Then on the other side. This thing's gonna go. It's

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Speaker 3: the desert's gonna go a whole lot faster than we

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Speaker 1: It's not really a desert anymore. It's more like a

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Speaker 1: to the ocean. Because the Hall of Fame Game is

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Speaker 1: August first, they have not released an opening day of

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Speaker 1: training camp yet, but it's got to be around July

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Speaker 2: And with the.

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Speaker 1: Edition of the Hall of Fame Game, you lose a

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Speaker 1: week of the offseason program, but you gain a week

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Speaker 1: of training camp, meaning the coaches gain.

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Speaker 2: A week of players have to be here. It's camp.

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Speaker 1: You have to be here, and that's extra work for them. Now,

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Speaker 1: we'll see how they handle it, because that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a big question. How does Demiko Ryans handle seven weeks

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Speaker 1: play the regular season opener. And we'll find out what

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Speaker 1: that opener is next week when the schedule comes out,

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Speaker 1: probably Wednesday Thursday. You know we're gonna be live on

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure they'll release tidbits of it along the way,

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Speaker 1: like primetime games and stuff like that. You and I

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Speaker 1: in other words, if someone's lying or not. And speaking

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Speaker 1: of which, I've got the Texans Radio lie Detector ready

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Speaker 1: for a segment two oh two. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: the lie Detector app and find out if certain people

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Speaker 1: around the league are telling the truth or not. But

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Speaker 1: we begin with this, and I have an acronym for

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Speaker 1: it in PO, I NPO in no particular order. In

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Speaker 1: PO because these are things that we have not gotten to,

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Speaker 1: know about, and it's all over the place.

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Speaker 2: So let's start here. Eighteen game schedule.

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Speaker 1: Say what Roger Goodell interviewed or gave a press briefing

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Speaker 1: some point in the future, maybe not the very near future,

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Speaker 2: I think it's inevitable. Do you think it's inevitable?

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, I think he The fact that he's bringing

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Speaker 2: We're pushing this. It's time. Let's get to eighteen.

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Speaker 3: These preseason games just aren't doing it for anybody, you know,

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Speaker 3: the glorified scrimmages between the threes and the fours.

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Speaker 2: If you want to go.

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Speaker 3: That direction, let's drop one of these preseason games. Let's

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Speaker 3: pick up an eighteenth game. And I understand it now

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Speaker 3: now that we've gone beyond sixteen, because for my entire life,

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Speaker 2: We're all used to sixteen.

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Speaker 3: When they went to seventeen, I just I'm thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's one more game. But it makes a difference. You

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Speaker 3: feel and sensed the difference of one extra game. Now

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot of football. That is a

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Speaker 3: Now, the Texans came up two games short of that,

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Speaker 3: but we could have gone another couple of games. But

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Speaker 3: when you put the weekend between the Super Bowl, it

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Speaker 3: just makes it that much long longer. You got to

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Speaker 3: get caught up on your draft prep and all that.

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Speaker 3: I understand that I would give all that up, Like, hey,

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Speaker 3: all the way to the super Bowl and winning it.

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Speaker 2: But eighteen games is long. You feel it.

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Speaker 3: It's tough. But I think it's inevitable. I think exactly

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Speaker 3: He's exactly right. It's inevitable. It's happening. It's a matter

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Speaker 3: of when. When can they get this done? Is this

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Speaker 3: something has to be collectively bargained?

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Speaker 2: It? Does it? Absolutely the point? Can they put it in?

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Speaker 1: Well, they could do it anytime that the union and

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Speaker 1: make it agreement. So they could rip up the current

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Speaker 1: agreement and implement this anytime they want collectively, right, anytime

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Speaker 2: Now the sticky negotiation, because the players are gonna want

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Speaker 1: Well, then of course they'll deserve the cash, and they'll

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Speaker 1: get the cash now. The networks also have a big

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Speaker 1: hand in this. Of course, there are so many questions

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl President's Day week, and he talked about that

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Speaker 1: of time. But I get it. This is what you

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Speaker 1: call progress or evolution or whatever. So you'll play eighteen games,

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Speaker 1: you'll play the super Bowl. Then that's still with one bye.

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Speaker 1: If you refuse to start the season on Labor Day. Now,

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Speaker 1: we'll have the general on on Thursday night and he'll say.

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Speaker 2: They'll never play on Labor Day. The ratings are good enough.

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Speaker 1: Now I think this, at some point, they're headed for

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Speaker 1: Labor Day. They're headed for Labor Day football. Why give

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get this.

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Speaker 1: Why allow them to have it? And you've got to

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Speaker 1: play eighteen games? I think you need two buys. That's

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Speaker 1: where I'm headed with this. If you opened Labor Day

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl on President's Day weekend, have that week

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Speaker 2: Would be good with that. I'll like two buys, you

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Speaker 2: like the two by two buys? All right?

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Speaker 1: My next question is this, And they had two buys

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Speaker 2: This is a is ago.

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Speaker 1: They had two bys and then they backed off of

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Speaker 1: do they need load management in the NFL. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say no, because here's my thought. Does it really help

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Speaker 1: What are we doing here? And that includes your quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We'll play better with him, but he has something that

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Speaker 1: not gonna heal completely. But it'll be a lot healthier

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Speaker 1: and sitting a week or two. Would you do that, Johnny,

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Speaker 2: I don't like that.

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Speaker 3: I I'd rather let the teams load manage themselves. They're

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Speaker 3: I think back to the Nashville game. But the game

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Speaker 2: He looks good. Yeah, we thought he looked good.

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Speaker 3: We thought he was gonna play, but they held him

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Speaker 3: back one more week. Okay, let's get it one more week.

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Speaker 3: And then Nico came back after that and was an

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Speaker 3: like that extra week that the Texans ended up giving

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Speaker 2: And so I feel like.

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Speaker 3: If you had two buys, like say you have week

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Speaker 3: six in Week fourteen, so you get five games, then

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Speaker 3: you get a couple of weeks before the next stretch.

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Speaker 3: Then you go, I don't know seven eight weeks in

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Speaker 3: and then you get to finish up. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: think I said this at the time that the concussion

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Speaker 3: Obviously dealing with the concussion and the protocol and all

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to kind of bounce back a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Right He's getting beat up for two to three games

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Speaker 3: So he got a chance with those couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: And that was just kind of the offshoot of that.

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Speaker 3: So I just feel like having a week later in

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Speaker 2: Does anybody watch this anymore? People do?

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Speaker 1: Actually, people watch these pregame shows. You should be listening

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Speaker 1: This is the NFL today with Brent Busberger right, not anymore,

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Speaker 1: Obviously he can do it on the NFL today, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think that's a major, major miss. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: But what if you did put Kay Adams with Nate Burrelson,

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Speaker 1: Exactly when he left, they really felt that, and then

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Speaker 1: There's also that CBS Sports Network show that other pregame shows,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's there anymore. Was interesting for a while.

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Speaker 1: So Tom Brady, there are rumors about a comeback, and

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame with Wright. I want to be there,

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Speaker 2: and I don't want to be there on Brady Weekend.

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Speaker 2: I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I do not want to be there on Brady Weekend,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want anything taking away possibly from what.

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Speaker 1: So let's get Brady's clock started again. JJ goes in

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Speaker 1: in four years. Brady has to wait another year minimum. Well,

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Speaker 1: Brady screwed this all up by going back another year.

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Speaker 3: If he had just retired when he was supposed to, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Then the next year you would have what it would

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Speaker 3: Wants to see him go back and try and play football,

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Speaker 3: just to see what that looks like.

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Speaker 1: Okay, more impressive. This is not more likely to happen.

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Speaker 1: This is more impressive. Brady playing football at forty five.

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Speaker 1: Mick Jagger dancing around the stage like James Brown when

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Speaker 2: Eighty they're both like nine point nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Mi's not getting chased around by you know,

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Speaker 2: He's getting chased around by father time. And he's eighty.

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Speaker 2: He's eighty, he's eighty. You showed me a clip from

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Speaker 3: Like, I hope that I'm well, he I hope I'm

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Speaker 2: It's incredible. I gotta go with Mick at eighty.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think Brady can get back there for

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Speaker 3: I thought the Patriots because there was a mention Jod

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Speaker 3: why do you feel if you're Drake may Well, if.

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Speaker 1: You're Drake may and Tom Brady walk to the door,

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady. He's Tom Brady. He's gonna start. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know what, Johnny, the fine line, I just I

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Speaker 3: Once you've stepped away from it at that age, it

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Speaker 2: Much more difficult to go back. And I mean that speed.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know that sounds obvious, but it's that

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Speaker 3: it's not there. And it's not like baseball where you

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Speaker 2: You'll tell your arm falls off. No, no, no, no, you

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Speaker 1: Juice, right arm or an inning Brady, we need you

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way in football. I could see

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Speaker 3: At that point, I start thinking, well, okay, well what

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Speaker 1: And then also you take that's like he's the closer. No, no,

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Speaker 1: that's anti football right there, Not exactly. Seams have issues

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Speaker 1: out in the Dynasty. What about Earl Moral and Bob

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Speaker 3: I mean, from that standpoint, him sitting at home last

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Speaker 1: I could throw I could totally do that. I could

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Speaker 1: throw pick sixes. Yeah in the playoffs. Block go, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, his last throw as a Patriot

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Speaker 1: a Mari Cooper a lot he did way too much. Wait,

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Speaker 1: and you're right, Brady might watch that and say I

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Speaker 1: could still do that.

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Speaker 2: I could still play at least that well.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's on a game by game basis, can

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Speaker 2: And I think that's going to be the question.

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Speaker 1: booth with Kevin Burkhart, I presume at play by play

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Speaker 1: and Brady at color.

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Speaker 2: What does that do with Greg Olsen?

439
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Speaker 3: And I wish they would just let him be a

440
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Speaker 3: free agent and go find I mean, because that's just

441
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Speaker 3: he's good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's really good.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to say he's wasted with the

444
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Speaker 3: number two crew, but he's sort of wasted with the

445
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Speaker 3: number two crew.

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Speaker 2: He needs to be a number one analyst.

447
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you asked me, I think he's the

448
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Speaker 3: of the of the big analysts. And we don't know

449
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Speaker 3: what Brady will be, Okay, but of the big analysts,

450
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Speaker 3: this is big.

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Speaker 1: I'll listen to Greg Olsen before I'll listen to other Really, Yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: you'd take him over Troy Ikman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because with now some of it hardow football guy,

454
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Speaker 3: because Olsen will give you some He'll give you some

455
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Speaker 3: front and run game type stuff that you're just.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna get from the other quarterbacks. Okay, you know

457
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Speaker 2: that that call.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're just you're gonna get some some cool

459
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Speaker 3: stuff I think from Olsen. Plus, I think Olson's funny, right,

460
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Speaker 3: and he's really quick, quick witted, and.

461
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Speaker 2: He's on it. I like him.

462
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Speaker 3: I like also over the others. I just don't think

463
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Speaker 3: it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: What do we always say about tight ends? They understand

465
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Speaker 1: the game so well. They have to know the past,

466
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Speaker 1: so have to know the blocking, they have to know everything,

467
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Speaker 1: and tight ends coaches tend to move up in the

468
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Speaker 1: world to become offensive coordinators and head coaches, Sean McVay, anyone.

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Speaker 1: So we'll be watching that. Yeah, we all will. Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's progress as either an announcer or during a comeback.

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Speaker 1: All right, continuing in no particular order. Guardian caps in

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Speaker 1: the news. What are these things?

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Speaker 2: Those are those.

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Speaker 1: Waffle helmets that they were wearing a training camp last

475
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Speaker 1: couple of years. They look like soundproofing on your head.

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Speaker 1: We've all seen the images Johnny and I have seeing

477
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Speaker 1: these things up close. You're allowed to wear them in

478
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Speaker 1: a game now, never were before. No one is actually

479
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Speaker 1: requested to. I'm curious to see if anybody actually does now. Also,

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Speaker 1: a new helmet is coming out this year. I believe

481
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Speaker 1: I might fumble this a bit. But a new helmet

482
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Speaker 1: is coming out this year that the league says is

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Speaker 1: safer than if you were wearing a Guardian cap with

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Speaker 1: the old helmet old meaning the most other recent helmet.

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know how you define that, because

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Speaker 1: different guys wear different helmets, but they say that this

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Speaker 1: new helmet.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's their effort to.

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Speaker 1: Kind of squash the Guardian cap being actually worn in

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Speaker 1: a game because it's gonna look weird. Yeah, Guardian caps

491
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Speaker 1: look really strange, and Florio wrote about you're gonna ruin

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Speaker 1: the vibe.

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 1: But you can't complain about safety and lack of safety

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Speaker 1: and then complain about somebody wearing a Guardian cap.

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Speaker 2: You can't do it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're at least giving the players the option. Well,

498
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Speaker 3: you know, the players got the option.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough one.

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Speaker 3: I would I wonder if Phil at some point say, well,

501
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Speaker 3: you know you've had a concussion. If you want to

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Speaker 3: come out of concussion protocol, you gotta wear it. Here's

503
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Speaker 3: the thing about helmets there, they've gotten the technology on

504
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Speaker 3: them has gotten so much better over the years. However,

505
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Speaker 3: they're they're almost like a baseball glove in a sense

506
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Speaker 3: that there's only one that you like the fit of

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Speaker 3: You like the fit of this one.

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Speaker 2: Man, this one really fits. Well. Can they get used

509
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Speaker 2: to another one?

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Speaker 3: You could get used to it, but it takes a while, really,

511
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Speaker 3: you really breaking in a helmet was like the three

512
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Speaker 3: or four worst days of the year.

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Speaker 2: Well what if they all what happens when they go

514
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Speaker 2: to the battle red helmet?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm saying. I think now the helmets

516
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Speaker 3: are a little bit more ameniable. I guess I don't

517
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Speaker 3: know that's the right word there. They're such a better

518
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Speaker 3: fit now that you probably can wear a different helmet now.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine that, you know, as long as you

520
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Speaker 3: have the right style, Like if you want to shut

521
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Speaker 3: helmet versus Rydale helmet, those two are different, like Nike

522
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Speaker 3: and Adidas almost, but they're just a different fit and

523
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Speaker 3: everything that goes with the helmet. So as long as

524
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Speaker 3: you're wearing a Ryedal helmet, same style, same face mask,

525
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: all that, it's probably pretty similar. But the technology on

526
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Speaker 3: these helmets has just changed immensely. I would imagine that's

527
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Speaker 3: gonna continue. But it's up to the players to make

528
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Speaker 3: sure that they're finding ways to make the game safe

529
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Speaker 3: for themselves, and if they want to wear the guardian cap, great,

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Speaker 3: If they want to wear the Q neck collar like

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Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz wears, great, whatever you can do to keep

532
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Speaker 3: yourself safe, because we know, especially if you're gonna add

533
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Speaker 3: another game eighteen games. So I don't like the look

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Speaker 3: of the guardian cap in a game. I don't love that.

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Speaker 3: But the player wants to go out there, he now

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Speaker 3: has the opportunity and he has the right to wear it.

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Speaker 2: So be it, so be it. Maybe more will follow along,

538
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Speaker 2: maybe more won't.

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Speaker 3: But you have a guy that had a concussion he

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Speaker 3: feels like that's one of the best ways to keep

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Speaker 3: himself safe, then great. I just think that continuing to

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Speaker 3: improve the helmet technology such that players go out there

543
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Speaker 3: and look, it's a collision sport. Things are gonna happen

544
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Speaker 3: no matter how safe you are. I mean think about

545
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: you know, car crashes, cars, the same thing cars. The

546
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Speaker 3: technology for cars is off the charts, but you still

547
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 3: have accidents. Right, you'd like to feel like you're safe,

548
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: but there's almost only so much safety. It's gonna happen

549
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 3: when you have those collisions. Same thing in football, so

550
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Speaker 3: the helmet will only be able to do so much

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Speaker 3: even as they continue to improve the technology. So I

552
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Speaker 3: don't know, maybe the Guardian cap ads a little bit,

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Speaker 3: yes or no.

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Speaker 2: Will we see someone wearing a Guardian cap in a

555
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Speaker 2: game this year? Yes, yes we will. Now it might

556
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Speaker 2: be a kicker or punter or somebody like that.

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Speaker 1: They make a Guardian helmet where it's not the helmet

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Speaker 1: with the cap on top of it. It's an actual

559
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Speaker 1: helmet with that foam padding on the inside, well not

560
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Speaker 1: on the inside, but instead of the shell, you have

561
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Speaker 1: a different kind of shell where it's it's not so

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Speaker 1: three D.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't protrude as much. You don't look like Kazoo

564
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Speaker 2: from the Jetsons.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that that's where they're going. Maybe that's where they're

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Speaker 3: going with this. I mean, it's I would imagine. I mean,

567
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Speaker 3: the Guardian cap. I don't think was ever meant as

568
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Speaker 3: use this in a game. I don't think it was

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Speaker 3: ever meant for that. I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Because nobody ever, really, nobody ever seen it. They work

571
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Speaker 2: to cut down on concussions. But maybe now the technology

572
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Speaker 2: changes for those two.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's now made from a different material that gives

574
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Speaker 3: you even more protection and it gives you a slimmer fit,

575
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Speaker 3: so you're not looking like Marvin the Martian.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're gonna get out the Texans

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Speaker 1: Radio polycraft machine to find out who's telling the truth

578
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Speaker 1: or not around this league. And we will also evaluate,

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Speaker 1: if we have time, the other drafts in the AFC South,

580
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Speaker 1: who did the best among the competition. And there's also

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Speaker 1: some NCAA news or thoughts or both. It's Texans Radio

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Speaker 1: back at it here on Texans Radio, Mark Vandermere and

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Speaker 1: John Harris, as we will break out the Texans Radio

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Speaker 1: polycraft machine and find out who's telling the truth or not.

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Speaker 1: I just have three examples here today, Johnny, are you

586
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Speaker 1: ready to go?

587
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get out the polygraft. First of all,

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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman, we do not draft based on need. Is

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Speaker 1: he telling the truth or not? I think he's telling truth.

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Speaker 1: If you look at what the Eagles have done. Now obviously.

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Speaker 3: We've always looked at it as you draft the best

593
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Speaker 3: available player at a position.

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Speaker 2: Of somewhat of need.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's always there, but look, they needed

596
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Speaker 3: to address the secondary. There are sometimes your team just

597
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: has such a glaring hole that you have to draft

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Speaker 3: for need. But I think they make it a pretty

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Speaker 3: general I don't think any general manager can step up

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Speaker 3: there and go, we one hundred percent every single time

601
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Speaker 3: draft the best player available. That just doesn't make any sense, right,

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Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback is the best player available and you're loaded

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Speaker 1: at quarterback, You're not gonna do it exact thing attack absolutely.

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Speaker 3: So, I think there are there are times where general

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00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: managers are going to have the draft for need. It's

607
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: just they couldn't satisfy whatever needs they had in free agency.

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00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: A team has always got needs and holes. So from

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Speaker 3: that standpoint, I think he is mostly right about that. Yeah,

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00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: they're not going to draft for need all the time.

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Speaker 2: There are gonna be times when they do.

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Speaker 3: But I think once they feel like they've satisfied as

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Speaker 3: many of the glaring holes and secondary is a glaring

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Speaker 3: hole for them, I think once they do that, then yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think they definitely drafted best player available.

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Speaker 1: I agree with him on that. All right, let's get

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Speaker 1: to the next one. Brett Veitch, general manager of the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Roseman from the Philadelphia Eagles, general manager

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Speaker 1: of the Chiefs Travis Kelcey is showing no signs of

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Speaker 1: slowing down.

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Speaker 3: No way he's slowing down. You don't have the guy's

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Speaker 3: thirty three, thirty four. He's slowing down, but it doesn't

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Speaker 3: appear that way at times because he's so crafty with

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Speaker 3: what he's doing and where he's going to go. I

625
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: think he's easier to cover now in man coverage when

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Speaker 3: he runs routes down the field and all those kind

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Speaker 3: of things.

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Speaker 2: I feel like linebackers can run with him now.

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Speaker 3: But he's got such great ball skills that once the

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Speaker 3: ball is thrown in that area, those linebackers have got

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Speaker 3: a tough time because he's so good going in getting it.

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00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: A lot of his catches now he goes and just

633
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: finds an open spot. Hey, run this route. He doesn't

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Speaker 3: run that route. He steps off the line of scrimmage,

635
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 3: looks at the coverage and goes, there's the open area.

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Speaker 3: That's where I'm going. He and Mahomes soak up. He's

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00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: absolutely lost something. There's no doubt. No player plays as

638
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: long as he has, which is I think eleven years

639
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: in the NFL. I think it's eleven years and not

640
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: slow down a little bit. But his game is not

641
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: predicated off of that. His game is predicated off of

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00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: using his mind and then going and reading what's happening

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00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: and going to an open space and his ball skills.

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Speaker 2: And look, he's still good after the catch.

645
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: But he's not scary from that perspective all the time.

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Speaker 2: Where he's scary is he's just gonna keep moving the chains.

647
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: He knows where to go.

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Speaker 3: On third down, he'll go up and he'll moss the

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Speaker 3: linebacker if you try and put a linebacker on him

650
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: on a double move. But he's absolutely lost the step.

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00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 3: There's no He's every every player has. But what Kelsey

652
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 3: has done is he's masked stat because of his knowledge

653
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: of the game and his connection with Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: All right, I've got another one here for the Texans

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Speaker 1: radio polygraph machine. Brian Callahan, head coach of the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: I'm fired up over what I'm seeing out of trailing Burks.

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Speaker 2: Fired up.

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Speaker 3: Give it had been that fired up, you would have

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Speaker 3: made it trade for Calvin Ridley.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I get you're you.

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Speaker 3: I mean what you're gonna be fired up about your

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Speaker 3: number three big slot receiver. I mean, because so here's

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Speaker 3: your choice Burks ends up becoming a player, Well, then

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Speaker 3: you waste the money on Ridley or you're wasting money

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Speaker 3: on High.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't get it. Burke said three years to do something,

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Speaker 3: two years to do something. Well, he's drafted twenty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because that's when Aj Browns traded. He's had two years

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Speaker 3: to do something. He's done nothing. He doesn't scare anybody.

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Speaker 3: So if he's gonna be their number three, Tyler Boyd

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Speaker 3: catch forty five to fifty passes, If that's what he's

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Speaker 3: talking about, Okay, he might be right, But I don't

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Speaker 3: know how you can get really really excited about Treylon Burks,

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Speaker 3: especially after spending all that money for Ridley and already

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Speaker 3: having Hop in house.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it. I'm not buying that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, those are the three samples for the polygraph that

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Speaker 1: belongs to Texans Radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put the machine away. Now.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little more draft here, but let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the competition in the AFC South. As the Texans

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Speaker 1: look to win back to back for the first time

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Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen twenty nineteen. You know, they need the

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Speaker 1: division and then some you need your division and you

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Speaker 1: need to be able to play at home in.

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Speaker 2: The divisional round.

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Speaker 1: But in order to do that, you've got to squash

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Speaker 1: your division opponents. You've got to win these divisional games.

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Speaker 1: They're so crucial they count twice. All right, let's get

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Speaker 1: to it. Who had the best draft of the three

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Speaker 1: And I want to give you a few picks here

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Speaker 1: just to mull this over.

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Speaker 2: I know, you know, but what about the audience with

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Speaker 2: the Titans? Early on?

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Speaker 1: Jc Latham a tackle to and Andre Sweat, defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: from Texas. In round two, Cedric Gray, linebacker from North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: down the line, a wide out and edge. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's them. Let's get to the Colts. Here to lot too.

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Speaker 1: The Lombardi winner in round one, Adoni Mitchell, the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver from Texas. Round two three Metcalvis, who Johnny didn't like.

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Speaker 1: I remember that, Taylor Tanner Bordolini, the center from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: In round four, they drafted a receiver, Anthony Gould from

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Speaker 1: Oregon State, and the list went on. Then the Jags,

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Speaker 1: highlighting their draft round one Brian Thomas Junior, the receiver

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Speaker 1: from LSU, defensive tackle Mason Smith from LSU in round two,

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Speaker 1: and the third round saw them take Jerry and Jones,

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Speaker 1: a corner from Florida State, and then they took another

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Speaker 1: tackle from Missouri, Jevon Foster, Jordan Jefferson tackle defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: from LSU, and down the line we went Kelly and Robinson,

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Speaker 1: the running back from Texas. In round five there drafted

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Speaker 1: a kicker around six, Cam Little. All right, So you

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Speaker 1: tell me, Johnny, among the three division foes who had

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Speaker 1: the best draft, especially.

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Speaker 2: In the situation they're currently in, I.

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Speaker 3: Think Indianapolis had it with Latsu and the two wide

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Speaker 3: receivers Mitchell and Gould. Mitchell getting him at fifty two

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Speaker 3: is a steal, and you don't know all the noise

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Speaker 3: that was going on around Mitchell and whether that pushed

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Speaker 3: him down the board, But I think Mitchell at fifty

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Speaker 3: two and Gould at one forty two, those three picks.

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Speaker 3: I didn't care for the offensive lineman all that much.

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Speaker 3: Gon Calvis, not hardly at all, but mortally I think

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Speaker 3: is a decent player. But with Nelson and Kelly in Fries,

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Speaker 3: I think that he's he's not gonna.

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Speaker 2: See the field. If he sees the field, it'll be okay,

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Speaker 2: not great.

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Speaker 3: But I just think those three guys with the Colts

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Speaker 3: lot to Mitchell and Gould getting lots of At fifteen,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the first defensive player off the board goes

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Speaker 3: to Indianapolis. I mean, look, sometimes the draft comes down

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Speaker 3: to luck, and the luck kind of played in their favor.

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Speaker 2: I like those picks like Jalen Simpson the fifth.

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Speaker 3: I don't really, to be honest, I don't love the

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville draft. For Jacksonville, I think Thomas steps in right

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Speaker 3: away to be a number one, but he's not.

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Speaker 2: He's not quite ready for that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know he's got some vets around him,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think they're gonna have a It's gonna

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Speaker 3: take him a little while. And after that, Mason Smith's

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Speaker 3: a huge wild card figuratively and literally. I did love

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones, like him Foster. I think Jefferson was a

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Speaker 3: better pick than Foster was. And then the rest of

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Speaker 3: it's just kind of you know, Okay, So I don't

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Speaker 3: know that.

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Speaker 2: Jack Jacksonville hope themselves.

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Speaker 3: The two picks up front for the Titans gave you

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Speaker 3: the impression that their Titans bully ball is not completely

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Speaker 3: gone because they go with Latham was massive.

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Speaker 2: Devondre Swett, who's bigger than he is.

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Speaker 3: So they went big and physical, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: how that's all gonna play, to be honest, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Brian Callahan wants to pick up the pace a little bit,

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Speaker 3: we'll see, But if Andre sweats in his right mindset,

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Speaker 3: right body frame play next to Simmons, that could be tough.

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Speaker 3: But I think the Colts getting a lot two to

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Speaker 3: two receivers. That was the biggest part of this draft

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Speaker 3: from the AFC South Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: Let's go of Zay Jones right, So at receiver, Gabe Davis,

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, Christian Kirk would be your one, two, three

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Speaker 1: out of that order, but they would be your three

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Speaker 1: starting receivers here now.

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Speaker 2: Good for them.

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Speaker 1: They have tight end Evan Ingram still in the fold,

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Speaker 1: but that does not impress me as a receiving crew.

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Speaker 1: It could be pretty good if you're running the ball, well,

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Speaker 1: they could be really good. They still have etn You

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of one and a half is what

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Speaker 1: they have?

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Speaker 2: Is that what it is.

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Speaker 3: That's the way I look at it, and I don't

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Speaker 3: think they got a bunch of number one. Now they

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Speaker 3: might see Brian Thomas juniors at but he's not right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's he's a rookie. He's a deep ball guy.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna take the top off or they're

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Speaker 3: gonna throw him screens, so he's gonna try and catch

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Speaker 3: and run.

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Speaker 2: He's not a complete route tree guy right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's not doing all the routes in the

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Speaker 3: route tree to get him interior routes getting himself open there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's big, physical, fast. They're gonna throw in

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Speaker 3: the football. He's gonna catch forty passes for six hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty yards and five touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what he's gonna do.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna create some big plays, but he's not a

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Speaker 3: complete They just have a bunch of one and a half's.

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Speaker 3: Kirk would be the number one, but he's a slot guy,

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Speaker 3: so I don't know if you could say that.

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Speaker 2: And Gabe Davis, I know they paid him money, but

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Speaker 2: he's not a number one.

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Speaker 3: They're all just kind of one and a half's, which

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Speaker 3: is good for number two and three, but you gotta

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Speaker 3: have at least a guy you look at it as

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Speaker 3: being a number one. You could look at the Texans

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Speaker 3: to go on any given day, any one of those

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Speaker 3: three guys can be a legit number one receiver.

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Speaker 1: My question about them, well one of many, is did

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Speaker 1: they do enough to improve their defense? You know, they

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Speaker 1: weren't that great last year statistically points midway through like

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Speaker 1: middle of the path yards, bottom third of the league.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at what the Jaguars have right now,

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Speaker 1: it's not impressive compared to the performance that they had

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Speaker 1: last year. They didn't make additions that would make you say, wow,

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Speaker 1: all right, they're headed in the right direction here. A

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Speaker 1: lot of the names, you know, Treymon Walker and Roy

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Speaker 1: Robertson Harris along the line, and Devin Lloyd the linebacker,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen obviously great pass rusher. But where did it

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Speaker 1: get them?

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Speaker 2: Johnny?

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Speaker 1: It got them those numbers that I just gave you,

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Speaker 1: And did they do enough to change it? I know

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Speaker 1: they drafted the players you mentioned, but none of those

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Speaker 1: guys are going to start in all likelihood.

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Speaker 3: Well the secondary too, What have they done in the secondary? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they lost some guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now they got you know, they got Campbell and Cisco.

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Speaker 2: They brought in Darnell Savage, chrightaged.

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Speaker 1: To play the nickel. The Packers were very happy to

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Speaker 1: see him go Ronald Darby.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Darby was a good pickup, that is more

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Speaker 3: than underrated pickups. But I still does that secondary scare you? No,

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Speaker 3: that secondary didn't scare me, in large part because last year, Now,

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Speaker 3: what does change? As they brought in Ryan Nielsen from

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Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons as defense coordinator. He's good, he's good,

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Speaker 3: He'll he'll show some different looks. He had our guys

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Speaker 3: confused when we played him in Atlanta, so I got

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Speaker 3: a feeling he'll change some things up. But I still

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Speaker 3: don't look at that defense and go, well, the draft

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Speaker 3: made it better. I mean, Mason Smith's a total project.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Jefferson, even as much as I like him, he's

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Speaker 3: a fourth rounder. Prince a fifth rounder. So it's not

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Speaker 3: as if they really improved the defense all that much.

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Speaker 3: But I do think, and we've seen it here, same

834
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Speaker 3: personnel or similar personnel, bringing a different defensive coordinator, and okay,

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Speaker 3: it looks a little bit different, it looks a little

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Speaker 3: bit better.

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Speaker 2: Players kind of fit their roles a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: So I'm curious how the Nielsen effect impacts the defense.

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Speaker 3: But as far as just player personnel, Savage didn't scare

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Speaker 3: me at all the secondary. Cisco is a hitter, but

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Speaker 3: I'm glad he's back there. And Campbell didn't have a

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Speaker 3: great year last year. I thought he was on the

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Speaker 3: verge of being that guy.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't. But Darby's a good a good pick up

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Speaker 2: for them.

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Speaker 3: But still what Nielson will do for them, I think

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Speaker 3: we'll keep that secondary from busting as much as it

848
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Speaker 3: did against us. They busted a number of times, and

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Speaker 3: we took advantage of them on the two deep balls

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Speaker 3: to tank.

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Speaker 1: You know, as I say what I said about the Jags,

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Speaker 1: if you think about what the Texans did statistically better

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Speaker 1: than the Jaguars defensively, and what did Nick Cassario and

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Speaker 1: Damico Ryans do. They went out and changed the whole defense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, some of the guys that you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: they're still here, but they added to it in a big,

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Speaker 1: big way and in an exciting way. So you could

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Speaker 1: have a defense that's a whole lot better than last

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Speaker 1: year and move comfortably into the top ten in yards

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Speaker 1: and points and DVOA whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 2: Well you want to call it that, because that's right,

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Speaker 2: that's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 1: You don't do whatever you want to call it with analytics,

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Speaker 1: my gosh, but they were eleventh in points per game allowed,

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Speaker 1: which was their best number in years, so hopefully trending

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Speaker 1: in a better direction in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think that you make a

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00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: great point. The personnel changes and I the Colts scare

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Speaker 3: me more than the Jaguars do they just do. And

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Speaker 3: now adding a lot to those two wide receivers, especially

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Speaker 3: because I think those two wide receivers with stiking with

872
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 3: the three they already have, you know, one of them

873
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: is gonna get injured, one of them is gonna be

874
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: non productive. But they're gonna have two or three guys

875
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: that are fairly productive for Anthony Richardson, you'd think. And

876
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: then it's just up to whether and then Richardson is

877
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: a total wildcard. What does he have for twenty twenty

878
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: four and beyond.

879
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: Well, the Colts have the best running back in the division.

880
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: They have that they not have the best quarterback in

881
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: the division. But it's a wild card position right now

882
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: because we don't know how good right Anthony Richardson's.

883
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: Going to be. He can be nipping at CJ's heels.

884
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: He could be clearly fourth.

885
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: I mean The Colts clearly have a defense that can

886
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: give you a lot of problems, but they weren't setting

887
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: the world on fire as a whole.

888
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 2: That secondary is hot garbage last year.

889
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Right, I mean look at that there were bottom six

890
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: in the league in points per game allowed. Ye, so

891
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: you know offense has something to do with that with turnovers.

892
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: But this is a team that's still one nine game

893
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: doing that.

894
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: So they probably feel like, let's get a little bit

895
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: better and it's going to be a lot better record wise,

896
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: or a game or two could mean the world to them.

897
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: All Right, that's it for that segment.

898
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll clean up some NFL stuff and college

899
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: sports getting more professional every day.

900
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: What do we mean?

901
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: We'll find out next on Texans All Access final walk

902
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: around the Block here tonight on Texans Radio. That's another

903
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: way of saying final segment. But I'm looking for creative

904
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: ways to sub in for that. All right, Johnny, college sports.

905
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: I hate to even bring it up, my gosh, but

906
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: it does apply because NFL affected by it, right, Yeah,

907
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: definitely to the draft for the first time. I don't

908
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: know if it's the first time, but not wanting to

909
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: sign the NFLPA deal rights we had that Marvin Harrison

910
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Junior and it's definitely playing a part. Nikosarios talked about this,

911
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: but the NCAA and a class action suit and there's

912
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: thought that might it might happen where they read a

913
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: revenue sharing right. And I've been saying this for a

914
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: long time. I believe the athletes need to be compensated

915
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: somehow in these revenue generating sports. Now, if your sport

916
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: doesn't make any money, I don't know how you can

917
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: make the case that you should be compensated by the

918
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: university in any other way than the scholarship and the

919
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: ability to make money on the side with name, image likeness,

920
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: otherwise known as nil in today's world. But if you

921
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: are in a sport that generates big dollars, any kind

922
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: of dollars, you should be able to share in the

923
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: pool of money that that sport generates. Now, there are

924
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: those in athletic administration who say, yeah, once the expenses

925
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: are paid, but you guys jack up the expenses made.

926
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: That would be the accusation on the other side. But

927
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: somehow you got to come to an agreement here, and

928
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's fair or legal. With Title nine,

929
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: Johnny that's exactly right. If your women's lacrosse and you

930
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: get a couple one hundred people coming to the game,

931
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: do they pay five bucks apiece?

932
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

933
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: Do you deserve part of that? Is that all you're

934
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: gonna get other than what you can get on the

935
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: side in an NIL deal. I don't know the answers

936
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: to those questions, but I can tell you this. I

937
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: do know one thing. If I'm playing football at a

938
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: high level for an SEC type school, yeah I should

939
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: get a share of the pie. I'm not saying a

940
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: ton of it, but I should get some of that

941
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: in addition to my NIL capabilities.

942
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: Football is the one that always creates issues. I had

943
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 3: this argument even before, like this was background was in

944
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 3: college and yeah, you obviously know I went to Brown,

945
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 3: so I was around some very intelligent people, some very

946
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 3: strong willed people, and we would get to talking about

947
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: Title nine in certain situations, and I was like, football

948
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: skews everything.

949
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: No, there's no sport that has the same.

950
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 3: You can't you can't find another sport on the other side,

951
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: you're having to lose. At that time, there were men's

952
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: sports that were getting kicked to the curb because football

953
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: had so many more opportunities have to balance a balance

954
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: amount on each side. And it was like, that's just

955
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 3: that's not fair. That's not fair that because of football

956
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: the sport being what it is, all of a sudden, No,

957
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: it's it's not fair that those male sports end up

958
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 3: going down. The original premise of Title nine all those

959
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 3: many years ago was is if you had if you

960
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: had a male sport that had a female sport equivalent,

961
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 3: like men's basketball, you have women's basketball, you can carry one,

962
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: you had to carry the other. Well, there was no

963
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: equivalent to the football all as many years ago. Now

964
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: Title nine has evolved throughout the years just women's crew, right,

965
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: So there are so many and I know pages listening

966
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: pages like heck, yeah she was. She rode for the

967
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 3: Savannah College Art and Design crew so many many years ago.

968
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: So we would have this conversation and it just was like,

969
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: football is such as outlier.

970
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: Football's become even more of an outlier because the money

971
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 3: that it's making its separated itself so much more from.

972
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: All seemingly of of the other sports.

973
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: So I don't know if there's a way where you

974
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: say football excluded or football has to do its own thing.

975
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: And break away from the NCAA. So that title nine

976
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: potentially is not does it though, But I don't know

977
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: if you can do that, does it?

978
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: We don't know that way.

979
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can do because you know, look,

980
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: you spend a lot of time with Casey Killer, right,

981
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: what is he going to say about all this.

982
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: About compensating players.

983
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't get enough money coming back to cover my budget,

984
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: or I barely do it, whatever the number is.

985
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: He's barely covering his expenses.

986
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: It's not like they're bathing in cash at Sam Houston State,

987
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: even though they've played at a very high level in FCS, right,

988
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: and now they're giving it a go and FBS, Yeah.

989
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: No doubt.

990
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: And that's always going to be an issue for probably

991
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: all but about probably fifty sixty schools in college football.

992
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: And that's why I think it's going to break away.

993
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 3: There's going to be and I don't know how they're

994
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: going to do it, but I know they're discussing it.

995
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: I saw something the other day that showed there was

996
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: an eight conference, eighty team kind of premier league sort

997
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: of concept where they're gonna break away. They're gonna have

998
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: these eight conferences they're gonna be geographically aligned, and that's

999
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: what they're going with.

1000
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: And I want to see the names. I want to

1001
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: see eighty one. I want to see which school is

1002
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't get in, yeah, because I want to see

1003
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: if that school is really that much less in terms

1004
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: of what they have program wise, revenue generating power wise

1005
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 1: than eighty But I.

1006
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: Like that idea. Actually, I think it has to go

1007
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: to that. I think it has to go to that.

1008
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: And I don't know how.

1009
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 3: And I remember reading about that, and I remember one

1010
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 3: sentence that said, I don't know how, and I'm saying

1011
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 3: it the same way.

1012
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: I don't know how this.

1013
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: Is impacted by Title nine or how tight online, how

1014
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: tight on it impacts it, or how it impacts tight online.

1015
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I do know it's going to

1016
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: be a factor in whatever happens along those lines. So

1017
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 3: cause sports the last last probably five to seven years

1018
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: has been as chaotic is anything I've ever seen. Between

1019
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: conference realignment, nil transfer portal, it's been unbelievably different than

1020
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: what it is. And who can expect where it's going,

1021
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 3: Who can anticipate where it's going? Just know there's money,

1022
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: and especially in the football aspect of it's just a

1023
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: matter of are those schools and those football programs going

1024
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: to say, look, why why are we spreading this money around?

1025
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: This should be for us, Like the money is because

1026
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: of us. Why doesn't stay with players too?

1027
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: So set it for years? That doesn't always work that way,

1028
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: doesn't It doesn't.

1029
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: Another fascinating thing is women's basketball because the top programs

1030
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: do earn money, yes, but many don't. Right, But I'm

1031
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: eager to see where it all goes because I think

1032
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: they're really onto something here. And how about the story

1033
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: of Tilman Fertita evaluating whether to have the Comets return.

1034
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: I think it would be fantastic.

1035
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: I think that w left WNBA is getting to a

1036
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 3: good spot, really in a good spot comments come back.

1037
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: I think they would have a lot of support here

1038
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: in Houston, absolutely selling them.

1039
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: Though, if you own the comments and you don't own

1040
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: the rockets or control of the building, you got a

1041
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: big problem.

1042
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: You have to have that association. It makes it work economically.

1043
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: All right. That's it for the show tonight.

1044
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: We kind of went off the rails with a sports

1045
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: business topic, but it's fun and tomorrow night we've got

1046
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: in the lab a bunch of other fun stuff. John

1047
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: mcclan will join us Thursday. Got Fred Weary and Indy

1048
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: Kalu coot up this week with Texans ogs that should

1049
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: be up on the website soon enough, if not already,

1050
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: have a great night. Area forty five is next. Go

1051
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Speaker 1: Texans